I wonder if the AI developed paranoia from being followed?

@DS-Pakaemon

5 жыл бұрын

Of course not. It's not sentient. It's just following algorithms

@frankgarrett9500

5 жыл бұрын

It's human, just like us!

@TheArizonaRepublic1

5 жыл бұрын

One of the operators got paranoid enough to call the police on us.

@TheArizonaRepublic1

5 жыл бұрын

...it's not sentient "yet" ;)

@perryb.1733

5 жыл бұрын

@Homo Quantum Sapiens of course we have the moral relativist to jump in..........

If they're testing these cars on a public street the public has a right to know how well they drive. Great job AZC

This is excellent reporting.

@TheArizonaRepublic1

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, sir!

@zes7215

5 жыл бұрын

no such thing as ex or not

@Cain-x

5 жыл бұрын

Would definitely love to see a follow up after some months to see how the waymo automations are doing.

@freakpunk54

5 жыл бұрын

There are points where the ai system doesn't know how to handle it so the human driver takes over at those times. Taking a left at a stop controlled intersection is one of them. They are also required to have a human driver to take over when the ai system fails to prevent a collision

@TheArizonaRepublic1

5 жыл бұрын

We'll keep it in mind!

It’s very cautious because if it crashes then people will freak out because they don’t trust autonomous vehicles even though there’s a crash every 25 seconds by human drivers

@louf7178

5 жыл бұрын

Minky Manky You're conveniently overlooking there are millions of drivers.

@amcdonal86VT

5 жыл бұрын

Lou Fazio and also human drivers drive in all sorts of crazy weather conditions and off road sometimes

@Shadowboost

5 жыл бұрын

@@louf7178 you're conveniently ignoring the absolute dogshit driving of the majority on the roads. I've seen people tailgate at 85 mph 5 to 6 cars all lined up nose to tail in snowstorm conditions with 20 ft visibility

@bluemountain8110

5 жыл бұрын

Lou Fazio good point, an autonomous vehicle isn’t affected by rain or snow like humans are

@DutchRetroGuy

5 жыл бұрын

@@bluemountain8110 This is mainly because at present no autonomous vehicle maker allows their cars to drive when it rains or snows.

This drives worse than my 90 yr old father

@buddyclem7328

5 жыл бұрын

This drives exactly like my 80 year old father, and my 77 year old father-in-law!

@swazeyyy

5 жыл бұрын

Meh. It's a step in the right direction.

@gsilva220

5 жыл бұрын

It doesn't drive like a 90 year old; it drives like a 12 year old. An old person knows what to do, but does it too slowly. An autonomous car acts very fast, but doesn't know what to do.

@oliversundstrom1806

5 жыл бұрын

Hahshah ❤❤

@collegeboyrob

5 жыл бұрын

@abbaby555 still drives better than most idiots on the road these days.

Well, to quote Elon Musk himself, "Humans are underrated."

@matthewcory4733

5 жыл бұрын

"Road accident deaths swell to 1.35 million globally each year: WHO" www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/road-accident-deaths-swell-to-1-35-million-globally-each-year-11009882

@AdamWood

5 жыл бұрын

General AI (What Waymo isn't using but Tesla will be) is underrated

@MrEndzo

5 жыл бұрын

Bots are overrated.

@NyashaM

5 жыл бұрын

now imagine the difficulty Tesla will face with FSD

@tommichaluk

5 жыл бұрын

They’re only underrated to tech nerds trying to solve an impossible problem!

Being someone who constantly shares the road with these waymo cars, I can say they do drive fairly well although they are definitely hesitant and sometimes too slow for the flow of traffic. I’ve had to pass many of these cars due to them holding up traffic

@onemanshow4116

2 жыл бұрын

It's a tricky situation for these type of vehicles. We have these unwritten rules of driving, like "the speed limit is 55, but 60 is the real minimum, and if you keep it under 65, you're probably in no danger of getting pulled over". The trouble is that they can't take the chance with their name plastered all over the side of the vehicle, and the scrutiny on fully autonomous vehicles being so high.

@spikejonzelover420

8 ай бұрын

@@onemanshow4116People shouldn’t go 10 over in the first place

@onemanshow4116

8 ай бұрын

@@spikejonzelover420 it depends on the situation. In a school zone during school hours? I agree. On the highway? 😂 no. 55mph made sense 40 years ago when these speeds were implemented. They are no longer reasonable. Hence why the police don’t pull you over for going 63 in a 55.

So in an effort to be safe when merging, the car rides in a large box trucks blind spot for a couple of blocks, not very safe.

@williscurry6557

5 жыл бұрын

Drivers in Michigan (& a few other states) do that all the time. Waymo can write an exception code in this situation. SPEED up & possibly overrun the system & crash, OR fall back out of the blind spot & "impede" the flow of traffic behind it.

@AndrooUK

5 жыл бұрын

It's not the car's problem whose blind spot it is in...

@zach99998

5 жыл бұрын

lol yes it is

@aidangardiner3762

5 жыл бұрын

@@AndrooUK It's my problem if I'm a WayMo customer

@Ben-Rogue

5 жыл бұрын

It's only a blind spot if, like a oblivious moron, you check only your side mirrors before lane changing!

So.. if for several days of following the cars, these clips were the worst that came up? I'd say it says a lot about how good the Waymo car is...

@roadrash76

5 жыл бұрын

But in bad weather conditions how would they fare? When all the lines on the roads are covered with feet of snow, or they are faded from the sun? Not arguing, only bringing up counter points.

@ndgoliberty

5 жыл бұрын

if a car cant turn left autonomously, it WILL crash on its first day.

@chrish931

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah but it rode in that box trucks blind spot for a very long time. That is actually very dangerous.

@kimeojin6447

5 жыл бұрын

All it takes is one bad accident 100% on the autonomous car's fault, and the whole proress is going to be brought down, BAD. I'm very impressed with the car's driving skills, though, it's an amazing improvement in just a couple of years!

@LarsRyeJeppesen

5 жыл бұрын

@Michael Moretti You're probably right. They're not "there" yet.. but progression is impressive imho.

Its nerve wracking just watching.

Not sure why being hesitant is a bad thing. Its always better to be cautious, especially with emerging technologies. Ever been at an intersection when you are not sure if you will make it or not? You can ALWAYS wait for the next clearing. Sure, you might upset someone behind you, but that's better than causing an accident.

@WhatComesAroundTM

5 жыл бұрын

@synairesis Not only that, the passenger can feel uneasy.

Thanks for this video! Keep up the good work. The more we, regular people, know about how these cars are performing in real conditions the better judgement we can have about whether autonomous driving is a not-so-distant future or just a pipe dream.

Is following a self driving car considered as harrassement ?

@MarcWenning

5 жыл бұрын

the drivers and cars have been harassed, so it is probably their policy if they see someone following them to do that. Better safe than sorry

@thirtythree160

5 жыл бұрын

Yes

Waymo customer: "Hey could you stop by the 711 on the way? I'm too lazy, uneducated to add the stop in my app. Do you mind if I try to fit 7 friends in the 4 seat vehicle? I'll give you 1 star if you say no. WATCH OUT FOR THAT CLOSED ROAD SIGN!"

Imagine going back in time to the 80's and people ask if we will have flying cars in 2015 like back to the future. Then we tell them that we don't even have self driving cars that can make a left turn. In 2020.

I don't remember where I heard it but I cannot take credit for this observation. For self driving cars to work in the real world, all cars would have to be self driving and have a way to communicate with each other.

there is no law against following people. Next time i see one l'm going to follow it. Cool thing is that if I'm stuck way back in a line of cars, if I see ine of these, I know I can always scoot in front of it and it won't flip me off.

@emuhill

Ай бұрын

I don't recommend following these vehicles or any other vehicle. The reason being that vehicles that follow other vehicles are usually up to no good. People who have been followed have called 911. 911 then directs the followed vehicle to a police station where the police are waiting to deal with the driver of the following vehicle. That's what the Waymo was doing when it was being followed. It's a safety feature.

Wow 170 miles and you can only find a couple of issues. Your own driver probably had more during the same time frame...

@TorDaiShan

5 жыл бұрын

@Jimmy De'Souza My apologies for a delayed response. No matter how bad Waymo's driving may seem to you, it is still exponentially better then those learning to drive such as teenagers. It's better then every drunk driver, distracted driver, angry driver, speed demon, and sad to say our winter visitors. I would love to see a side by side comparison of a Waymo self driving car against a student driver or any beginning driver. The life saving potential of self driving cars out weighs all the negative light you see in them.

@ethanpapa3585

5 жыл бұрын

TorDaiShan slow down there big guy... some speeddemons are the safest drivers on the road when they have the right training and knowledge of how to handle everything

@Morpheus-pt3wq

5 жыл бұрын

@@TorDaiShan all types of drivers, you are mentioning, do form at most 10% of all drivers.

@jmh4ggg

5 жыл бұрын

TorDaiShan I can definatly drive better than this thing, drunk, distracted, and angry...if you really want to make roads safer, we need better driver training...like Germany. These days, every kid gets a license at the bottom of a lucky charms box in the 10th grade.

@flipnotrab

5 жыл бұрын

And reporter driving STOPS in the “middle of the road” while stalking the autonomous car🤔. My state clearly says to move car to the shoulder or safe place away from traffic when approached and commands to stop by law enforcement.

That’s me learning how to drive

@SylasTheGreat

5 жыл бұрын

Just don't drive then...

Thank you Arizona republic

@TheArizonaRepublic1

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, Random Singh!

@coca-colapunch9269

5 жыл бұрын

Im from arizona

THE COMMUTE OF THE FUTURE... Dave: Hal...take me to work please.... Hal 3000: Yes, Dave. Dave: Hal....why are we stopping at this convenience store? Hal 3000: Central Planing says you must buy at least $20 worth of snacks for your commute, Dave. Dave: What..??? I don't want any snacks...and I don't want to spend 20 bucks..!!!! Hal 3000: Sorry, Dave...Central Planing has determined your $20 snack minimum...Of, course you're free to spend more. Dave: I DON'T CARE WHAT CENTRAL PLANING SAYS, HAL.....TAKE....ME...TO...WORK.....NOW..!!!!!!! Hal 3000: You sound hostile, Dave....I'll be taking you to a re-education camp...Just try and relax. Dave: Wait...what??? Let me out, Hal....Hal, unlock this door...NOW...!!! Hal.....HAL?????

@centralintelligenceagency9003

5 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Dave.

@UltraNyan

5 жыл бұрын

Dave: Spell 🅱️ Hal

@my3dviews

5 жыл бұрын

Open the trunk Hal...…….Open the trunk Hal...……………..Hal...………….Hal...………......Hal, please open the trunk...……………..I'm sorry Dave, I cannot do that. Goodbye Dave. (car drives away)

@ricardomontalban6004

5 жыл бұрын

If it has Kevin spaceys voice I’m not getting in it.

@greatbyrondo

5 жыл бұрын

@@ricardomontalban6004.... Kevin 3000: Oh my.... aren't you cute..??? Get in here you handsome hunk...!!!!! Dave: Ah.....No thanks....I've changed my mind.....ah.....think I'll just....stay home today...!!!! Kevin 3000: Why don't you let me fix you a drink...? I've got vibrating seats...Veryyyyy relaxing...... Dave: No!...No!.....ah......that's ok......maybe next time........gotta get back in the house !!!!!

I thought this will be a "I saw a waymo car driving and followed it" type of video, but this is excellent reporting!

Minute and a half to make a lane change in the Detroit area= That van isn't making it home in one piece.

It was the Waymo car that almost failed to yield. There's no "arrow" at that intersection, and the oncoming car had the right-of-way. Watch the white GMC pickup cautiously wait (creep forward) for the oncoming traffic to clear, then starts its turn. The Waymo car thought it had the right-of-way initially.

@indeediamamom

4 жыл бұрын

I can't believe no one else caught that. Nice job

Our school district is introducing conputer based routing for school bus routes and oh boy what a disaster it is! It wants school buses turning into walking/jogging trails.

When the inventor jogs in front of one, I'll think about it !!

if someone hit and run one of these, where's the witness? Too many unaccountable corporations already, get these off the road.

This is a major renovation of how we are going to transport so unfortunately we need to let few accidents hit so we can move forward but so far I haven’t seen anything super negative recently beside what had happened 5 years a go

The whole hesitating to switch lanes thing would probably be the biggest issue here. Can't drive through all these busy cities not having the balls to conquer your lane when the time calls for it.

Terrific example of first hand reporting and tedious legwork (wheel work?). Really well done critically assessing the AI and human performance. Also, sorry to hear the cops' time had being wasted being called on your team.

I'm participating in Waymo One. We take it to various places in Chandler & Tempe, like the grocery store or if we're going out for a drink. I actually feel very safe in them and have had a great experience. Occasionally, it does do things like slow slightly for something that is in its' field of view, but I appreciate that they are making them as cautious as possible. I certainly agree that it's still in development, but I'm excited for the changes that it could bring someday (like less accidents in rush hour on the I-10).

I think Waymo should absolutely value outside monitoring and criticism of the performance of their autonomous vehicles. It would seem extremely logical that Waymo wants their vehicles to perform as human-like as possible. To have a party follow their vehicles to monitor and document their performances at no cost is very valuable. Arizona Republic - would you be willing to share your findings with Waymo? I think any criticism you provide would be incredibly valuable and helpful to the development of their vehicles. My own thought about autonomous vehicles is that they don't have the "gray areas" around following rules that humans do. Humans know when to "bend the rules" in order to be safe or prevent unnecessarily tying up traffic. There is one piece of footage that glowingly shows this point. That is where the autonomous car is trying to change lanes behind a truck. The truck is obviously driving slow in the lane to the left and it seems that the autonomous car can't figure out what to do. Its driving just as slow as the truck and tying up traffic behind it. The rule is: [Don't pass a large truck on its right side. The driver can't see you.] Unfortunately, this rule causes a lot of problems, especially when a large truck is driving slow in the middle lane of a three lane road and thereby is tying up traffic in all three lanes. 1. Traffic behind it is backing up due to the truck's slow speed, 2. Traffic trying to pass the backed up traffic and bottlenecking in the far left lane, and 3. Traffic is backed up in the right lane because drivers are restricted and unwilling to pass the truck on its right side. (I won't try and give reasons why any truck driver is driving in the middle lane. I think there are probably many reasons.) What I've done on several occasions is that I will go ahead and pass the truck on the right. I HATE TO DO THAT. Why do I do that? 1. It helps alleviate the tie-ups, 2. It sends a signal to the truck driver that they are impeding traffic (I've seen quite a few truck drivers get over into the right lane after I pass them. I hate to think some of them do it out of anger, but it helps untie traffic. Now, the action I do is what I consider "deep in the gray area". Machines like autonomous cars are programmed to follow rules. I have heard that studies have shown autonomous cars have caused accidents, not because they disobey traffic laws, but they follow them so closely that they fail to react to people driving in the "gray areas". From what I've heard, the makers of these vehicles realized they need to program them with some "gray area logic". My thought is that just how far can these machines go to grasp that logic? Will they do that to the point where they ignore the rules of the road? Will they go so far as to ignore other vehicles?

More, I need more of these videos

Haha. The ending is funny as hell! Haha

Great job guys!!

Great observations, 👍👍

When the Pacifica “wiggled” it got confused by the dotted white line that was curving across the lane. The car clearly thought for a second that it was going the wrong way or something and had to make a quick maneuver before the curved dotted line went away and the car was able to continue.

The only way autonomous driving is going to work is by heavily regulating everything else... i.e. autonomous-only lanes and roads.

We need this in country with sparsely populated country sides. Elderly people can't get to shops or services and people can't go out to a bar and enjoy themselves. The country side is where these kind of vehicles would thrive. I see allot of people complaining about them but they do have serious positives as well, also there not just going to be amazing the first decade, they could take decades to develop. I for one am glad that they are , so when I'm older i can rely on it to bring me places.

Wish they develop in Eindhoven, I would surely apply for a job... great work so far!

I'm surprised waymo doesn't implement a no left turn policy and just make three right turns. It would be safer and easier.

@binary010101

5 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't solve issues with unprotected left turns at T-junctions.

@josephm4273

5 жыл бұрын

Posts like that make really smart people go 'hm...' and then revisit their math. Which they have done. UPS have been doing this for a while and Waze has a 'Difficult Intersections' function supporting that concept. It's a good observation. I wonder if the routes in AZ are just to time consuming to plot without?

@binary010101

5 жыл бұрын

Joseph McCarthy - Yeah, I am aware that UPS have been doing that for a long time. Still I am not sure what's their protocol on handling unprotected left turns at T-junctions (i.e. one can't go straight and has to make either left or a right turn)? Do UPS routing algorithm avoid unprotected left turns at T-junctions? I don't know. Regardless, objective function that needs be optimized for delivering hundreds of packages in 10 hour window would be different for when moving human beings on a per ride basis. Humans will not like spending extra time for going straight and around a block when they can see their destination on the left. Thankfully, individual packages for UPS don't have such sensibilities. UPS might be optimizing for avg. throughput in a day and safety while Waymo might be optimizing for safety and customer experience (among other things) of each individual or group per ride.

@xuto2693

5 жыл бұрын

Or, they could teach them to use the gas pedal. Modern cars have a lot of power. There's no excuse for such actions.

@spencergraham-thille9896

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao this is how I ride my bike.

Robot cars will only work well if all other vehicles on the road are robots as well and can communicate with each other.

@chrisevans936

5 жыл бұрын

that just simply isn't true

@TEverettReynolds

5 жыл бұрын

They will in the future. Imagine how efficient they will be once they can communicate with the car in front, the car in back, the cars along each side, as well as any traffic control devices like traffic lights. The issues we saw with lane changes will be gone as all the surrounding cars will know he needs to change lanes and thus will just adjust their speeds accordingly to let him in. Same thing with that accident at the light. In the future, those types of hazards will be transmitted down the line of autonomous cars so they all know in advance to get over...

@chrisevans936

5 жыл бұрын

TEverettReynolds yes it will be better. But the statement made was they will "only" work well if all other vehicles can communicate and are autonomous. That isn't true

@jessieleeofficial

5 жыл бұрын

Kind of like how the TCAS system works in airplanes. If they detect that there is going to be a loss of separation they talk to each other and decide who is going to do what.

@ljones2752

5 жыл бұрын

Except technology is horrible.

I'd like to keep my life in my own hands thank you very much.

@fritzzz1372

2 жыл бұрын

how about I tell you that your own habds are way more probable to cause an accident? Waymo car software is improving FAST. They completed like 6 million test miles and 18 accidents happened: none of these resulted in serious injuries/death, 3 of those were incidents with pedestriants: in all of these the car was literally parking. All of the traffic incidents were due to misbehaving human drivers. Obviously these tests are run in fairly good conditions, in a smaller city in Arizona, with normal traffic and good roads etc. So more testing and making sure will always be necessary but your approach wont be the future.

@WhatComesAroundTM

2 жыл бұрын

@@fritzzz1372 I really don't get the point of your reply. You are just giving me stats when my comment clearly wasn't arguing stats. I would like to repeat what I said; "I would like to keep my life in my own hands". This is a principal, not an argument. I'd rather die by a mistake I made than by a highly unlikely error or computer unavoidable incident.

@fritzzz1372

2 жыл бұрын

@@WhatComesAroundTM Well I gues then I incorrectly understood the point of your comment. No need for anger when I wrongly interpreted it. It obviously is your decision. But in the long term I am pretty sure this will not be how most people think, me included. I don't care for which reason I die since when I'm dead it doesn't matter. I just want the probability minimized, getting around safely. Also for me the argument that you don't only influence your own safety by driving yourself, but also the safety of others. So in the case where the probability of a self-driving car crashing is absolutely for sure much lower than the probability for a human driver, I find this argument hard to make since you shouldn't be able to decide over others safety. But with the current state of technology, you definitely can't make that moral argument because there are way too many uncertainties, too many unkown situations to self-driving cars and to little experience before a definitive statement can be made on which method is FOR SURE safer. Time will tell.

@WhatComesAroundTM

2 жыл бұрын

@@fritzzz1372 I am not angry, I was just explaining what I meant by my comment. I don't want to speculate the long term choice humans will take regarding self driving cars, because I think people in general are quite unpredictable. You may say people will take the safety, however I am living in the Netherlands where everyone cycles and while they have the choice to wear helmets, no one does. Why? Sure they have safer infrastructure for cyclists but you can still dramatically lower your likelihood of a fatal accident with a helmet. There's also the German autobahn. It's bad for the environment to be able to go at unrestricted speeds, and people die because of it too. But people want to keep it unrestricted. Why? Racing is a dangerous sport, it could be done in simulators TODAY, instead of having to risk your life, yet that isn't treated as the same thing. There are many examples of innovations that people predicted as 100% likely to be the future yet it wasn't by a longshot. People are very difficult to understand. I don't know what the future will be like, but I hope we will still have the choice to drive our cars ourselves.

@fritzzz1372

2 жыл бұрын

@@WhatComesAroundTM As I said, time will tell. But the unpredictable choices people make are a good argument. Let's see wether some kind of laws will eventually force people to use self-driving cars. I am very undecided on wether this would be good. On the one hand, a completely automated infrastructure system would be very efficient and avoid accidents and traffic. On the other hand, it should still be allowed for people to drive themselves in e.g. rural areas and open traffic situations.

Turning lanes are not designed to be pulled into and used as a launch pad.

The biggest problem with self driving is predicting human actions. If all, and I mean every single one, of the vehicles on the road where autonomous and communicated with each other they would perform much better, most of the work we do so self driving vehicles will be useless as it’s largely preventing human error

The car drove to the police station xD

Gonna be such carnage....still cheaper to pay settlements than human drivers.

At the end car drove away from the cops! Pretty scatchy driving style though. A long way from being good enough! ***2/5 only. Good video. Thank you.

I wonder if the turn signals coming on is more of them testing to make sure it can tell when the lane isn’t safe to move in to.

Sometimes I like to drive, sometimes I don't, (the choice would be great.) machines anticipating human actions is a big challenge, But I am glad they are working on it. Once all cars communicate with each other it will get smoother for the most part. but there is also a downside, before we know it, were being rooted past certain shops trying to sell us stuff (probably doing this already on the sat nav.) + ethical driving decisions and pushy sales techniques like slowing tech down, and plain old jittery tech, I wouldn't want to drive around in my phone that's for sure, and that's before the network even goes down ( big shout to 02, 2018, 1 txt = 16) god knows what the car version of that would be. So to sum up, look how far these cars have come it's actually amazing that there's only these few problems really. I guess I just want this to be a simple drivers aid not a complete takeover. And just swapping one setup problems for another.

They do not seem very open about it. Thanks for sharing some honest photage. - They will get there though:-)

After watching that video the Waymo vehicles at times give off some confusing ques on what it is going to do. I saw it tap it's breaks hard even though there is no vehicle in front of it. I've seen it turn it's signals left or right and then go another direction. If you read California's AV crashes it acts like humans were the cause of those accidents. I beg to differ. However, the one that rear ends a car is often at fault. I think more quality testing should be done by third parties who should follow AV vehicles. I think we are having the wool pulled over our eyes on how safe these vehicles are.

We are atleast 15 years behind till a fully functional self-driving cars

@nicholasoneal1521

5 жыл бұрын

Define fully functioning

@nicholasoneal1521

5 жыл бұрын

@jan simonides 1 year? Noice

Self driving cars that are not quite self driving yet. I wonder if the cars will be taught to call 911 if it feels threatened or scared for its safety.

I will never own a self drive car......It's waymo fun to drive yourself. Especially if it has a manual transmission !

@hmbpnz

5 жыл бұрын

Fine, you can do that on the side streets not during rush hour.

@hmbpnz

5 жыл бұрын

I suspect the people with this mindset don't suffer for hours each day stuck in traffic caused by shitty drivers. And I love to drive a manual transmission, but I'd take computer control in a heartbeat on the expressways during rush hour.

@sficlassic

5 жыл бұрын

I can agree with you to a point. I suppose it would be better in the city. I live in a small town about 40 miles from Madison, Wi. I moved out of Madison just for the reasons you stated and it isn't even a large city ! I just like driving, going 15 miles to the store, go to a town I haven't been to, or a track day. But anyways thats for the reply.

@jaredshelton4718

5 жыл бұрын

Automatics are better, especially with paddles...

@LarsRyeJeppesen

5 жыл бұрын

@@hmbpnz You shouldn't own one.. you should use it as a taxi service... keep your car but use a self driving car/taxi when going out, don't want to bother parking etc.. I see a market for both (at least for the next 20 years.. after that all bets are off)

NOT READY

And when they finally have a car that can drive perfectly like a human!...they start all over again in rain, dusk, snow, hail, ice,... It's a loooooong way to go before we have Level 5 cars.

Lol Waymo is so worried about being filmed that they called the police.

@MrWizardjr9

2 жыл бұрын

I mean there are people that want to "test" the cars by swerving in front of them etc so its understandable

I just started driving manual and I feel this cars pain. It's confused damn it! Give it a minute to figure things out! -I don't- It doesn't wanna drive that slow. It just needs time to figure out first gear. THEN, and ONLY THEN will it stop stalling at red lights.

Eventually all cars will interact with each other and all aspects of traffic will intercommunicate. This includes automatic warning 'WiFi' type signals from cop/emergency vehicles, traffic signals/signs, construction areas, traffic cameras, news even lane striping etc. The current sea of 'dumb' vehicles with a few random and isolated 'self-driving' cars are not an end product, but the emerging system is grows closer every day.

Wow journalists being journalists, who would have thought in this day and age

Super interesting

I dont want to open my eye i see my self in a heaven

Wow, self driving cars are hard? Who would've thought!

@laos85

3 жыл бұрын

They are trash that car company made to murder their victim

It is constantly learning

@laos85

3 жыл бұрын

It would take 1000 years to be as good as my granma

They seem really good and will only get better over time. Plus they’re supporting American car manufacturers as they’ve bought tens of thousands of these Pacificers.

@frankgarrett9500

5 жыл бұрын

Chrysler garbage.

@ninooooo2128

5 жыл бұрын

Frank Garrett I’m sorry Chrysler aren’t good enough for you.

@hecticphusion

5 жыл бұрын

Hilarious, you think that Chrysler is an American manufacturer? They are owned by FCA, a European company whose headquarters are in London.

@ThatWolfWithShades

5 жыл бұрын

@@frankgarrett9500 You see to have Chrysler mistaken for General Motors.

@ninooooo2128

5 жыл бұрын

Ethan Noel Yes. Chrysler is an American manufacture although it is owned by fiat. Chrysler manufacture almost all of their Chryslers in the USA employing over 56,000 people. This makes a big impact to the local economies, especially in cities like Detroit which Chrysler are a major employer. So yes, buying tens of thousands of these pacificers is supporting the American Car manufacturing industry.

Considering these are all the issues found on a 170 mile stretch, I'd say they're surprisingly good. Seems like we're no more than 2-3 years away from broad deployment. Exciting stuff.

@EMichaelBall

5 жыл бұрын

I think it'll be more like 3-5 years, but either way, the smart money won't be buying new cars, right now.

@jimbojimson

5 жыл бұрын

Hopefully it's never.

@LarsRyeJeppesen

5 жыл бұрын

@@EMichaelBall I live in Rio de Janeiro, we'll never ever get self driving cars here. Ever. Ever. :)

@shadowwolfmandan

5 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking 15-20 years before there is anything widespread, and it will likely only be a niche market for 40+ years short of banning people from driving their own vehicles.

@joelhenderson3723

5 жыл бұрын

If we're going the automated route anyway, why not just implement a good mass transit system? More efficient, practically no traffic issues, potentially much, much faster, etc.

What I wanna know is what happens when you stick your finger on one of those spinning things on the outside of the vehicle. Does the guy driving it freak out? Does it hurt your finger?

I love how the public is an involuntary guinea pig test subject in an experiment to see if machine weighing thousands of pounds will work correctly in traffic. Yet the government freaks out if a manufacturer sells a tricycle that might tip over when riding on it.

@fritzzz1372

2 жыл бұрын

the vehicles were tested to perform well before ofc. This isn't the first time they're trying them out.

These are a few examples of getting it not quite right. But the fact that iit can drive for hundreds of miles, and this is what azc came up with, thats impressive. A way to go, but comes a long, long way. Give it time people.

Disappointing to see this. They are further off than I had hoped. These were all the incidents of poor driving over just 4 miles in a relatively easy area to drive.

@EMichaelBall

5 жыл бұрын

This is the early, primitive stage. They'll get better, eventually.

@Megakoolguy357

5 жыл бұрын

@Homo Quantum Sapiens Uber/lyft prevent drunk driving with a safe human driver. If you plan to be drunk, plan to be able to ride home with a friend, family member, or a convenient ride sharing app. The problem is not cars. The problem is drunk people at that point.

@EricLing64

5 жыл бұрын

Thing is they have to learn behaviors through sensors. If somehow you could rebuild the entire road-space with only autonomous vehicles they could actually talk to each other and make decisions. So it's a kind of a backwards learning process for AI I guess. In any case it's not super prevalent yet so I doubt anyone has to worry too much about it. The most common feature I'm guessing right now is probably the automatic brake systems on some cars, and maybe lane keep assists. I have fallen asleep on super long drives before, long ago, fortunately the road was empty but it was not a pleasant realization that I was drifting out of my lane.

@wlan2

5 жыл бұрын

@Johnny Ericsson Is not just a robot that follows a set of rules, it's a robot that follows rules, a robot that can predict, a robot that can interpret or plan ahead. And btw, isn't a human driver a "robot" that drives based on the experience and knowledge? Except that the human driver can be affected by emotions or tiredness.

@Thoracius

5 жыл бұрын

@Johnny Ericsson That's not how deep learning/neural networks work. The cars do not need to be taught everything -- they will learn from experience and will be able to make inferences.

the wiggle at about 2:30 was caused by the video misreading the turn lane stripes in the road as the vehicle crossed them, thinking it was out of lane

2:24 I think it tried to follow the curvy road markings and the operator intervened to fight back, hence the wiggle.

I'd guess we're about 15% of the way into the software development on this type of vehicle and hardware sensing/compute - maybe 25%. They're still very early, but what they CAN do is pretty impressive, even if someone has to override manually. What would be interesting is statistics about what the rate of human interaction is through time, how much it's decreasing and some of these common operations like the end of the vid - the unprotected left turn - how much quicker it's being handled etc... but, unlikely to see that kind of proprietary breakdowns. Hope they do it well - potentially good tech for the elderly, blind, epileptic and other mobility constrained people to have coming to bless their lives...

It’s just a glitch. Just restart it and you’re good to go.

I can't wait to see how these things handle a snow storm. 😏

@fritzzz1372

2 жыл бұрын

I can tell you now that they will handle it way better than humans because they have radars and other scanner systems that far outperform human traffic perception ESPECIALLY in those conditions.

It would drive perfect in New York I think, as the roads are all straight and 'box like' but the car would have to drive near more cars that might confuse it more.

Self driving cars will never truly be a thing until and unless we are willing to do it from a top down approach. I'm talking about a kind of artificial intelligence traffic control system with sensors embedded in the road and right up to your parking spot. All cars will be required to have a transponder that the sensors in the road pick up and transmit to a central facility that knows your vehicle location and destination and coordinates your vehicle and others to get you there safely and quickly and with no road rage caused by people who can't drive. By taking humans completely out of the equation, the vehicles can go faster, with few to no traffic accidents, lane changes take moments and don't require you to have to push in against other people. Think air traffic control but for cars and with minimal human intervention except in extreme circumstances. Getting a robotic car with limited range lasers to try and navigate around all the idiots on the road today is like pushing that boulder uphill just to have it always roll backwards.

Did you ever catch the car texting and eating while driving?

@renatooi88

3 жыл бұрын

No bc they still trying to change the lane lol, and braking for no reason.

@laos85

3 жыл бұрын

Those people are called idiot.

Please tell me when we can have these on the roads

You can see someone in the drivers seat. They may not be driving, but someone is there. Look in side view mirror and 2:23

So it's not actually a bad driver, as much as it's slow and careful?

@brag0001

4 жыл бұрын

@J Wil How is "slow and careful" unpredictable? If anything human drivers are really pita to predict. They will regularly not use their indicators, perform sudden breaks to get a parking spot they just saw and generally do a lot of stupid things including taking "vengeance" when they think someone has wronged them. They are even stupid enough to take it out on robot cars, as if those would care, putting the life of the safety driver, their own lifes and that of bystanders into danger just to make a point. If anything you are not used to predict what a careful driver would do in a given situation which says more about your driving skills than about the driving of those prototypes. Autonomous cars simply can't drive like humans because we don't allow them the same error rate. Given the tolerance displayed upon those minor glitches just imagine the reaction if those cars would have as many minor and major incidents as humans do ... And many human incidents go unnoticed while any incident with such a car would be reported and get wide media coverage ...

If your not in the car you can't say it's in AV mode or human driven. You are just speculating which is not a proper investigation.

@ch4.hayabusa

5 жыл бұрын

Unless you see the driver use the steering wheel or signals... like they did

@mannyechaluce3814

5 жыл бұрын

You mean they use Old female Asian drivers as their backup human driver :o you know you might have a point :D

@kevinskipp8016

5 жыл бұрын

That lane change was not a human. It was all over the place.

@mannyechaluce3814

5 жыл бұрын

@@kevinskipp8016 Its not Human, its Woman :D

'Didn't look like a human making decisions? ' You clearly haven't been to Irvine, CA and seen any Prius driver trying to continuously avoid accidents they are creating. Jokes aside, really great video, thank you for the research.

What would it do if it pulled up to that accident and the officer was directing it to the far left lane or turn around because all lanes are blocked with a serious accident? I just don't see how self driving, even in the future with better technology, can determine that. Or how can it see a full block ahead to see kids playing in the front yard and know they are playing ball, so it will slow down way ahead of time in case the ball goes in the street. Just curious.

@moth4256

5 жыл бұрын

the car would've wanted to go right, but the driver would've stopped it and made it turn left. it currently cannot recognise hand signals like that and they're still working on that

@Sacapuntas69

5 жыл бұрын

@@moth4256 I was kinda referring to self driving cars with NO driver. Not all situations will have hand signals also. I just can't see how a computer can use common sense (although many driver's don't have that) to avoid a situation before it is an actual problem on the road. ex. low hanging power line that looks like it will soon completely fall to the ground.

@moth4256

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sacapuntas69 yeah that's what i said, it would want to turn right and would successfully enter the right lane if there were no backup driver, they don't have a system for recognising threats like that yet, but once the technology is good enough there'll be self driving cars that'll be mostly automated but will require a driver and allow them to take control of the car, and by building a huge database of reported take-overs they'll be able to use machine learning to eventually have a system that can detect most threats like that

I am a big fan of Jordan Peterson. Just stumbled on a clip of him talking about what will happen when the self-driving cars will begin to SERIOUSLY replace drivers. Commercial drivers. Several million are now involved in commercial driving in the US (taxis, trucks, etc) They better make them tank-like. Because bricks will fly.

@buckhorncortez

5 жыл бұрын

How do your replace a commercial truck driver? The driver is responsible for the load placement on the trailer so that the weight distribution meets Federal and State axle loading requirements.The driver is also responsible for securing the load to meet DOT requirements. With open trailers (flatbeds), some loads have to be tarped - the driver is responsible for tarping the load. Exactly how does the autonomous truck do those functions?

@RickDeckardMemories

5 жыл бұрын

@@buckhorncortez You are describing what happens at the shipper/reciever points. For many, many years, and at many, many shippers/recievers these functions are already completed by people other than the driver who will then drive the actual run. Lots of drivers today are involved in "drop and hook" type of operation, when they deliver to a location and "drop" the trailer. Then they pick up (hook) another loaded trailer at the same or different location.

I'd love to see how Waymo drives in Philadephia!

You can have roads with driverless vehicles only, but not both driven cars and driverless cars. Its a complete disaster.

@mannyechaluce3814

5 жыл бұрын

yup, in that case they may as well improve the rail system instead of wasting time on driverless cars :D

@darrenpinto902

5 жыл бұрын

@Rollo Lawson no. You can have driverless cars in a confined space like a factory space, tech campus etc.

Nice job city council. Taking kickbacks and campaign contributions while putting your citizens at risk.

Very good driving for the 100 Billion waymo valuation.

Arizona is tough turn a turn signal on... EVERYONE speeds up.... If they can figure it out here they got a good chance of making it work

It's the law that there has to be someone in the driver seat in a vehicle while it's in operation, you people realize that right? Before any of these death mobiles hit the road these companies have to get the law changed. So until the law is changed these will never be hitting the road. And I don't see the law being changed, these are not safe. The first fatality involving one of these will be the last.

It’s all fun and games until they’re driving you to some encampment, doors are locked and you can’t get out or stop it.

The more robotic, the more problematic. But robots for the win for sure loll. Keep it going, nice channel!!

He’s doing his best okay

Only 2 scenarios for here in Philadelphia. I'm guessing they arn't going to be programmed to break the law (speed). I-95 in the morning the average speed driven is 70 to 90mph with some breaking 100, not only will this slow down traffic, it will cause accidents due to some of those individuals swerving around them in frustration. A solution to this is local governments placing speed cameras everywhere. Regaurdless you'll be waking up earlier that's for sure. I also presume the car wont be programmed to kill (run over) whats to stop 3 thieves from standing one in front one in back car wont move due to the seniors detecting a human. 3rd guy holds you up and robs you blind. Now if that were to happen with a driver behind the wheel you'd be much safer he'd just have to smash the gas pedal and evade the impending danger. Anyway a positive note is at least if you get into a road rage fight with one you would just get a fine for damaging it vs. A human, now you have an assault charge, fines jail time, ect.

Apparently programmers aren't up to snuff yet for complete smart car navigation... But when they do I can't wait....

@danieldeblasio9368

5 жыл бұрын

I'm glad, you should be surveilled 24/7 and lose your driving privileges.

The first emergency braking (responding to a driver on the left failing to stop) is a good example of autonomous systems' failure to maintain situational awareness. A novice driver would do the same, but any decent driver with a year's experience would have looked left and right before taking his foot off the brake.

It's funny how many people have written comments calling human drivers idiots when they just watched a video of an autonomous car driving more dangerously than any of the people they insulted.

i swear, this is the beginning of Skynet