Your reviews are so well done. And your dad is awesome!!

@MrMatthias03

4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't have said it any better, Greg. I totally agree.

Much rather watch these off road videos than constant runs at moab on the same trails, moabs cool but moab ain't the end all be all test that people wanna see , plus mountains are allot prettier

@zephxiii

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! Totally burnt out on Moab vids.

@chrisnewby5713

4 жыл бұрын

Especially Canadian Rocky Mountains 😍

@tomparisi4654

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, plus BC is so Beautiful. I'm so tired of Moab videos. I used to live in Phoenix and I 4 wheeled all over the SW, but my favorite was always the North woods of AZ. Thanks

@medicchester

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Take it to the woods and swamps. Yet, I love the MPG tow, and MPG empty numbers!

@medicchester

3 жыл бұрын

If can show 4X4 MPG numbers versus 4X2 setting.

Fantastic review Stephen you’re gonna have a great career of auto journalism! TFL is fortunate to pick you up. I always look forward to your Canadian off road expeditions.

@Ktheodoss

4 жыл бұрын

Darren Powell Agreed

“Well that’s just dangerous... we’re about to go off the cliff.“ 😂

@nobunaga-oda

4 жыл бұрын

🤣😂

Finalized my order today for a 2022 Anvil Green 75th anniversary Power Wagon! I'll take delivery tomorrow. Appreciate the multiple videos allowing me to make an informed decision!

"you can't go on TV with crap in your ear..." Classic! Now I want to see these on the hydro line when it's frozen like the way you did the Yota!

@tyler-kc8gs

4 жыл бұрын

RugbyLock0914 Finally they made this video

Stephen you are the first...person to actually show the payload ratings door jamb sticker..Good on ya...small thing to show..but very important

Great review of both the Ram Rebel and Power Wagon. That looked like a great time of off roading. Thanks for sharing.

that Power Wagon driver at 3:00 made a huge mistake. going outside is good if you turn on time. he missed the turn by 450 feet!!!!

@TheV8Hooligan

4 жыл бұрын

EDGAR SARIBEKYAN I thought so too.

@FishMe99

4 жыл бұрын

Writers, not drivers lol

@jlbush3929

4 жыл бұрын

EDGAR SARIBEKYAN Yeah, cracks me up watching guys who can’t drive, and therefore, usually know little about trucks, reviewing a trucks capabilities. I laughed out loud when in the turn scene he said it’s really getting muddy out here and it’s a good test of the tires.

@endocry

4 жыл бұрын

@@jlbush3929 cracks me up watching losers try to flex on the internet.

@jlbush8249

4 жыл бұрын

endocry Are you calling me a loser?

This looked incredibly fun to drive no matter rebel or power wagon! Great video my fellow Canadan! Love you and your dads relationship Steve!

As someone who lives on a 2019 ram 3500 truck camper exploring the back country of Vancouver Island offroad it was awesome seeing what still feels like my backyard!

Wish I could afford a Power wagon. Always wanted one after watching Simon and Simon back in the day. lol

@briantalbert3441

4 жыл бұрын

Joyroc, I just purchased my first PW!! Black with the gray graphics like the one shown. I could not be happier!! Chase your dream. So worth it!!!!!!!!

Stephen, I do enjoy watching your reviews. Very deteail oriented, educational and a lot information. Your knowledge and experience makes a big difference. You should create your own youtube channel. Keep up the amazing work you do.

In our little 4x4 group someone has a power wagon and he takes that thing everywhere we take our Rubicon...pretty impressed with it most trips lol

Elmer is always good at explaining things. My favorite presenter. Great to see offloading in BC. Born and raised in these hills. Gets nasty real quick.

@hryan3547

4 жыл бұрын

i wanna live there.

@sunnyvalejedi

3 жыл бұрын

@@hryan3547 BC = Bring Cash. Average Whistler house price is over $3M

My favorite TFL Canada video so far.

Awesome comparison video, demonstration of turning radius and wheel articulation were perfect in highlighting the differences of these trucks.This type of off roading is much more relevant to my use of trucks than rock crawling in the desert. Now if only I could decide between a Gladiator and a Rebel- love the Power Wagon but Ive owned a Ram 2500 and just got tired of the sheer size and turning radius, drive- through complications etc...

Really well done review. Excellent discussion of details. Great camera work.

Stephen is just amazing in all his videos.

Great video Stephen. Beautiful trails. I like the Rebel a lot. Plenty off road capable for me. Power wagon is just too big.

Awesome. This is in my neck of the woods. This is what I see during my trail rides.

Bro! that was so informative and fun to watch! thank you! especially when paired with the first video doing the spec and side by side comparison. I personally am still torn which I might get based on my personal needs and situation but I am no doubt picking one of these Rams.

Great off road truck review comparison, always nice to see them do the same things in the same conditions back to back. Since I have no major truck driving experience mostly have had cars and one crossover, I would end up having to go with the more nimble RAM Rebel, but I also like the Power Wagon. Nathan and Stephen agree that the Power Wagon don't care. One of your reasons about having more gear than needed is why I like the Colorado ZR2 vs a standard mid sizer like even the Colorado Z71 or the Ford Ranger FX4, packages, etc... I am single with no kids so the mid size truck segment is perfect for me. I could get use to a 1500 size truck, but an HD would take me longer to get use to driving, especially in any city traffic or on tight lane and a half country road.

awesome video. Luv the views on that trail. When i drive my current power wagon and my old Ram 1500 off road i shift on the fly around tight corners. Coming in and out of 4 hi to reduce my turning radius and keeps my drive train from binding. as far as ride quality i recommend 15 20 psi smooth things out but i hav two air compressors on board with 37's

Love my power wagon. It might be a little big for some things but I wouldn't trade it for anything.

@jlbush8249

4 жыл бұрын

Derrick 112 Love mine too. So what if we have to reverse once or twice. Still think it would have made the turn if they new how to drive.

Awesome review and I 100% agree with you, power wagon all the way!

The problem is, he is comfortable saying a truck for 70k usd... as financing periods became longer the car companies kept increasing prices...

@seanl764

3 жыл бұрын

Well a base toyota tacoma is only $25k. No reason to complain... Trucks are still the same price as 10-20 years ago. It's just that there are fancy trim/package trucks for sale.

@sunnyvalejedi

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanl764 So true.

Great video, thanks!

Camera quality is looking really good.

Ram gang! I just purchased a 2016 ram express. Not no rebel or power wagon....but I still love it. And I doubt I'll ever off road it lol. Great review!

This is very nice mountain view and off-roading review. But if my money, I'd go with Rebel due to on road driving more often than dirt road. Thank you for making this video. You guys awesome! And your dad is funny guy. Excellent!

Power Wagon don’t care, eh.

@anthonyj810

4 жыл бұрын

Ram rebel is actually better offroad cause it's lighter

@jlbush8249

4 жыл бұрын

Anthony J Nope

@anthonyj810

4 жыл бұрын

@@jlbush8249 Power wagon will get stuck in mud/snow where the ram rebel wouldn't. It's just not a smart choice unless you don't mind getting stuck every 5 minutes you're on a trail with deep mud or snow.

@DonZaloog88

3 жыл бұрын

Anthony J they now offer the Rebel with a 3.0L Diesel. :)

B. C. Rains from mid September till the 1st of March and boom it's summer again on the Coast. Cheers from Vancouver Island!

@sunnyvalejedi

3 жыл бұрын

Haha! Come to the Koots or Okanagan and you won't see rain past 500m!

I'm so glad Stephen joined TFL. No offence to the other channel, but his talents are much more suited here.

@reko3103

4 жыл бұрын

@guy proulx no... I haven't

Awesome thank you for sharing

Stephen, would love to see you do the whipsaw trail outside of Princeton with a bunch of different vehicles.

Just bought this truck fully loaded with all the trimmings. Love this truck and i highly recommend it over the rebel. I owned a rebel before but the PW has it beat with all the options. The only thing i don't like is the fact the truck doesn't have the center console but the bench seat because of the transfer case set up. Hope one day Ram can design something to work around the transfer case set up. Otherwise the truck is amazing!!!! Awesome review!!!

@coreykonkin5917

4 жыл бұрын

Thats actually my favorite thing about the power wagon is that it only comes with the 6th seat, makes more sense plus its still a "Center Console". That and its only available in a 6.5' box

Regarding lack of diesel in PW, in addition to what Steve said, I read that there is not enough space for the winch and a diesel (long engine) in the engine bay and Ram's PW people were unwilling to delete the winch.

@hemiaddiction

4 жыл бұрын

The winch issue is due to the intercooler being there and to add to that I heard an engineer say the oil pan is in the way to allow the axle flex like it needs to.

@donleamon8653

4 жыл бұрын

torque addict - you’re one of the few that understands that fact. Unfortunately

@hemiaddiction

4 жыл бұрын

@@donleamon8653 I would love for a cummins to be in it but the truck wouldn't be what it is now and ram doesnt seem to be ok with half assing it, which is the way it should be

@SgtRudySmithbRet

4 жыл бұрын

AEV prospector did it. Just change up the bumper a little.

@donleamon8653

4 жыл бұрын

@@SgtRudySmithbRet - Watch this kzread.info/dash/bejne/iIx3tcpqZ8rZoNY.html at 3:00. It will kinda give you an idea of just how much room that IC takes up and how vulnerable it is with that AEV bumper. Plus you still have the oil pan to contend with if you want the same articulation from the factory that you get with the 6.4. Then you add in the weight, which with the obviously heavier Cummins itself, but everything else needed to support it from a bigger transmission, larger cooling stack, extra battery etc., your tacking on an additional 750+ lbs. So, moral to the story, if you want a Cummins, just buy a Cummins RAM and add ARB's and a Carli swaybar, and the AEV bumper with winch and call it a day.

Great review, I am holding out for the diesel Rebel.

Working on some stuff right now and hopefully I’ll be able to buy my self a new Rebel my self any time soon.

Power wagon all the way Great Truck . Thanks for the update and video.

Your dad looks like Dennis Anderson, the legendary Gravedigger driver lol

@Sebastian_Dinwiddie

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! Thank you! It was bugging me.

Should a done the Rebel review with the bilsteins like most buy... Still very excellent video, love both the Rams. Thx👍👍.

@sunnyvalejedi

3 жыл бұрын

Too many issues with the airbags.

IM loving my 2019 Rebel got it 4 weeks ago in bright white colour. I dont have the panoramic sunroof or 8 or 12 inch screen which i dont miss anyways. Paid 46500 CAD. I guess sticker was 61200.

I was born and raised GM but those are 2 sweet trucks.

Fantastic video of the Canadian wilderness

I wish the Rebel had all of the same features as the power wagon. The surround camera, the winch, the disconnecting rear, and front and rear locking diffs. I rather have a smaller frame truck for off-roading than a larger one. If you get these missing items aftermarket mods, you are going to be well above the power wagon price.

Definitely look forward to the Tremor/Power Wagon head to head reviews. As others stated I think in the end ford will sell more Tremors because of payload and towing capabilities. It really gives you the best of both.

may I ask which part of the Callahan valley you guy went to for the review? The view and terrain look awsome

I live 45 mins away from this and that is just a normal logging road. Most people traveling on these active FSR road cruise on these road at 30 to 50km/h till you have to slow down before the drainage ditches. They should have traveled to a real off road trail or a deactive FSR road, so many around (probably a couple just accessible on this road) and some are even maintained by off road clubs. TFL your review are awsome and I hope you brought some SxS or quads because BC has some amazing trails.

great video .the reble was impressive

Great video. Just funny how every car show guys speaks the same exact way. Hilarious!

Good video. I like almost every video you make. Suggestion if I may? Do a good, long duration time, review off-road in a JL Rubicon 2 door 6spd. Everyone does the JLU automatics. I (borrow from the bank) a '18 JK Recon 6spd and it is unstoppable on trails. Keep up the good work!

I want to move to Canada with that much snow

I have a question TFL guy. Can you tell me what brand those camera mounts are on the fenders? Great video! Some really beautiful country there!

Bro this helped so much now I know to go for the power wagon

After watching your video I'm mad I didn't pay the extra money to get the Rebel. I settled for the 2019 North Edition. It standard with a 1 inch lift and falkner all terrain tires. The truck is nice. I think Ram made this truck as a go between of the Bighorn and the Rebel.

The Tremor has no front locker, no disconnecting front swaybar, no factory winch, etc. I have the 2021 Power Wagon 75th anniversary and it's a BEAST of a truck. I do offroad it often and it's very impressive. The tremor, in comparison, is a joke. I put AEV rims 37 x 12.5 x 17s on the Power wagon (which fits without cutting) and the ride difference is stunning.

Now I would have voted for the Rebel, I like a more 'dual purpose' truck; some highway, and some off-road running too.

this is the only legit off road review channel

The Power Wagon has so little payload already it would literally only be 500 pounds if they added the Cummins. There’d have to change the suspension so much it wouldn’t be the same truck at all. And it would cost 10k more!

Powerwagon with 4 wheel steering would be great for these tight turns.

Great video. Still cant decide between the 2 trucks. Guess ill annoy some salesmen with many test drives. The TRX is badass but only a limited run

Nice review & your mostly right about it being not much a price difference sadly but if youre not using it the mpg would kill most in the long run. As far as the diesel option that would be a bad idea -it would spike the price for starters -it would be worse offroad -the towing would be no where near its potential to be worth the upgrade essentially making it a ultimate poser truck.

Power wagon started the first switchback about 3 feet too late, and didn't cut fully into it at first. Also, Ram's reason for keeping the diesel option out of the power wagon is sound. First, the whole truck would need to be redesigned just to accommodate the winch with the diesel cooling packages on the front end. The weight distribution is significantly worse in an empty truck for off-road wheeling with the diesel option. The high-travel front end would also need to be completely re-engineered and modified from road applications. It might not make a price-point the market can support or even make economic sense from an RD standpoint. I'm a 2500 diesel owner, and I've driven mine off-road plenty and compared it to a Power Wagon. There is a distinct difference in feel and handling, if not capability, before the rear breaks traction or the front bogs.

I love my power wagon!!

The payload numbers are shocking. Wow!

4:32 awww daddy's boy🥺🥺

Great review👍👍🇺🇸😎

If they put the Cummins in the Power Wagon the payload would be less than 500 lbs.

Power Wagon is awesome for off road. I got the Rebel as I am on road 98% of the time and I want to garage it in the Winter.

@sunnyvalejedi

3 жыл бұрын

Rebel is totally capable off road and in winter.

I'd like to know your thoughts on bottom ridge grapplers.

Ugh I love power wagons, wish we could get a Cummins but they are so heavy

Regards Friends I own a Ram POWER WAGON 2017 model and I Say there IS NOTHING BETTER ... But I know rebel si a newest machine here in this vídeo . Next year I 'm plqnning chance for a newer model . I Will consider Rebel TRX . I would like Rebel TRX in a 250O confugaration next year . Thanks You GUYS . Nice video . Good work.

Love your videos! Keep up the great content!

@JonBecker81

4 жыл бұрын

Bears don’t care about a few trucks going 5mph up a remote trail. I’ve been on trails like this and have seen bears on the side of the road just chilling watching us go by. I was on a motorcycle one time with my wife on the back. She wanted me to stop and get a picture while the bear was 10ft away. I said f#ck that!!

Love the power wagon but I think I'll just build an old truck. Stuff is too expensive.

I would get the power wagon once they put a Cummins in it and why because a 6.4 liter hemi is bad on gas but its a sweet truck though. Great video review.

Great video! Thank you! How reliable is the air suspension on the Rebel? I have always been leery of air suspension.. but I am not an expert. Would love to hear your feedback. I am driving a Ram 1500 now as a rental thanks to someone doing an illegal u-turn in front of me in my GX 460 and it has me considering Ram.. when I never had before. I was set on Ford for a truck.. but really like this Ram.

Kain you add the dislocating sway bar to the rebel and add locker on the front instead of just the rear wheels and add fox shucks and a 360 camera to it

My Grandfather has a 1996 dodge 2500 with over 470km and still going but if we had a camera back then it would show how he pulled out a fully loaded dump truck with a broken axle most the trails TFL shows is a road traveled on alot but my Grandpa went on the road that was just made if they gave the 12v Cummins diesel to the power wagon I would consider buying it but with the new 6.7 hemi it doesnt compare to the old 12v Cummins

Since the Cummins is way to heavy for the power wagon I think they should have a trim that comes with a supercharged for an extra 100-150 horses, that’d be niiice

2020 Rebel gets the updated Ecodiesel. Tow rating goes to 12,560 lbs. I'd get an Ecodiesel Rebel if it had 3:1 low range with front & rear diff locks. My biggest complaint is the crew cab Rebel only gets the 5'7" bed and can't option the 6'4" bed.

What is the height of the Power Wagon from ground to roof? Great review!

Ram Rebel with another suspension 👌🏻

The winch is the reason for gas only on the pw. It goes where the intercooler would go

Which display screens were included in this video??..hoping for the 12"

I think the Rebel is 3" wider than the Power Wagon. Although the PW is 1/2 foot longer with a longer wheelbase, the width is going to be more prohibitive to west coast trails. And it has a suspension lift, not a body lift.

I remember driving my boat up dirt hills! lol

@endocry

4 жыл бұрын

Do you remember all the times you flexed on the internet and no one cared?

Love the PowerWagon man. Just too big for my type of off roading. Probably too big for my garage as well.

@jlbush8249

4 жыл бұрын

Rick Boyett Mine fits in my garage, with 1.5 inches to spare, with standard 7 foot single doors.

Good informative video; thumbs up. Cameo by Pop's; 2 thumbs up.

The Ford Tremor vs Power Wagon videos can't happen soon enough!

@adamharriger5193

4 жыл бұрын

RVA TOM Ford will have the power advantage, but I bet the Power Wagon will still dominate with the suspension and winch advantage. Will be a tough choice depending on towing requirements.

@oHITMAN14o

4 жыл бұрын

Adam Harriger power wagon isn’t really for towing though it’s mainly just for off-road fun. Don’t think the power wagon will have much Competition ford waited to make the raptor so the power wagon would go soft because it had no true competitors

@adamharriger5193

4 жыл бұрын

o HITMAN14 o I was referring to the upcoming Ford Tremor, which will compete directly with the Power Wagon (hd off-road). Ford has 7.3 gas and 6.7 powerstroke diesel options both with 10spd transmission, higher tow ratings and payload than power wagon, but lacks disconnecting swaybar, and i dont believe a factory winch has been shown yet either- maybe later. I think strictly for off roading the power wagon still wins but for someone who for example hunts and tows a camper- the Ford may have an advantage. Will be interesting as I think alot of buyers in this segment fall into that outdoor recreation and towing group. My guess is the Tremor will sell at higher volume than the power wagon.

@rxonmymind8362

4 жыл бұрын

Then throw the diesel option into the Rebel in 2020.

@jlbush8249

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the Tremor was being called the Power Wagon killer, but fell short. I would have liked to see more competition for this segment of trucks to force the manufacturers to keep improving them.

In the high clearance mode you gain ground clearance but lose articulation with that air suspension on the Rebel. I am not saying that's the only difference with the two trucks though. I'd rather get a Rebel and add some nice coilovers versus that air suspension if the truck was used offroad frequently.

I have a 2020 Ram Laramie, crew cad, 5’7” bed…I was thinking of adding the 2” Mopar lift and 34” tires for over landing … what are your opinions?

I have one critique, and I cannot overstate how serious it is. Why, WHY weren't you wearing one of the Power Wagon don't care hoodies??

The rebel is good for a daily driver, the power wagon is good for off-roading but sucks for being a daily. The suspension on the rebel is softer and more comfy

I believe another reason Ram doesn't put the diesel in the Power Wagon is that the increased space that the diesel takes up would encroach on the area currently occupied by the winch, which isn't something they want to get rid of.

Both are very cool.

If you have wheeled the 2 vehicles on serious trails, the Powerwagon is way, way better.

@00ninja00

4 жыл бұрын

I’m sure it is as it’s suspension is designed for off roading, that’s why it can’t tow as much as the rebel. But I’m sure if you went aftermarket off road suspension for the rebel, which will make its tow rating lower a significant amount, it will do great off road. But due to the ifs, it’s better for fast off roading like sand dunes, trails etc, but the live axle on the power wagon is better for rock crawling (even though it’s size isn’t the best for rock crawling.) Im guessing that’s what the TRX is going to be, a rebel with off road tuned suspensions and some nice wide body styling (pre-runner style). So it’ll be great as a trail and sand rig, but not the best for rocks, which makes sense because that’s what the power wagon is for (full size rock crawler-ish.)

@sunnyvalejedi

3 жыл бұрын

I doubt there are many guys who are going to push trucks closing in on $80k that hard.

@richfarfugnuven6308

3 жыл бұрын

@@sunnyvalejedi you obviously do not live in CO. 80k rugs are all over the place out here on some pretty extreme trails. That's why I bought a Can Am, keep my big, expensive rigs off of the trails.

That's my old off-roading grounds there. Now living in Texas and own a 2022 Power Wagon. Let me tell you, lift your Power Wagon and put a Carli King suspension and 37" Nitto Trail Grapplers on it and other than width you can do anywhere a Jeep Gladiator can go. Rebel can't do that.

Wow! That TRX is going to be sharp and highly sought after for a sporty off roader truck. I would definitely take the PowerWagon over the Rebel. Camera views are totally awesome. Would take the PowerWagon over the Gladiator. Love the dad cameo. lol Excellent review/compare. Thanks TFL for the facts and information.

@MichaelSmith-kr9qw

4 жыл бұрын

I dunno about that one the Gladiator has awesome aftermarket supports Buy a sport Model for about $36g and buy a EVO 6" lift $6g and able to run 40's for another add $16g for Dynatrac XD 60's and you are still cheaper than a fully loaded PW or Rebel.