Just wanted to clarify a little mental typo - towards the end of the video I say "Brian Robbins" when I meant "Brian Peck." It's just one of those slips I didn't notice until after it was posted! I wish I had more time to review this for the one or two flubbs like that, but for now my sincere apologies to Brian Robbins for not catching this.

@AlienIOIandroktone

Ай бұрын

Bro Brian Robbins 'bout to get PISSED

@nathanielhayden5919

Ай бұрын

Thank ya for the video.

@placeholder8392

Ай бұрын

You ought to pin this m8

@PhenixhasrisenREAL

Ай бұрын

Is there a meaning to the ending segment with you going into that building?

@dontrelate465

Ай бұрын

@@AlienIOIandroktone😂

Spending time explaining the storylines of Head of the Class for no apparent reason to then later demonstrate how he copied those storylines in all his own shows was genius.

@Attmay

Ай бұрын

He’s not just a pervert, he’s a thief.

@onefourthhuman

Ай бұрын

I know, I was getting frustrated like “I don’t need to know all this” then the punchline came and it made my jaw drop lol

@collinbeal

Ай бұрын

That's some good writing

@phillipanselmo8540

Ай бұрын

​@@Attmaybad writers copy, good writers steal

@ellam1452

Ай бұрын

guys I don't think it was plagiarism these are just common sitcom tropes. "kid group takes a trip to win a competition" is a trope. I'm sure the actual episodes were very different

Spencer is not Dan Schneider. He's Dan Schneider's sona, his self-insert, he's what Dan THINKS what he's like, Spencer is what Dan WANTS to be seen as, WANTS to be.

@lokimiguel2452

Ай бұрын

Nah Spencer was still bad a lot of times let's not try and ignore that

@alnisssa

Ай бұрын

@@lokimiguel2452i heard that he was always protecting the icarly kids. he would stay on set even when he had no scenes & i keep seeing clips of him interfering with dan from hugging the girls or touching them. he definitely shouldve spoke up but he was at the same time one of the only adults on set sticking up for those minors.

@lokimiguel2452

Ай бұрын

@@alnisssa talking about the character not the actor of course

@toepuppet19

Ай бұрын

I really wonder if jerry trainor ever caught on to this

@lokimiguel2452

Ай бұрын

@@alnisssa also this sounds like fan fiction for jerry

Hearing Dan say that women can’t be funny is just so insane to me I could die. He’s a sitcom guy. Who is responsible for basically creating the template that most sitcoms still follow? A woman! Yes, I’m talking about Lucille Ball.

@queltonelhipster

22 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@nothing4mepls973

19 күн бұрын

Not really contradicting him there.

@BrainstormJr

9 күн бұрын

Sounds like being in denial to me.

@jonathanmoore9356

13 сағат бұрын

When John Belushi said if in the 70's I didn't understand but I feel it was at least a common outlook. In the 2000's and later? Come on my guy

the "28....... that DONT have a weird foot thing" was an AMAZING way to tell us that information

@bluebaron6858

Ай бұрын

And technically all 109 iCarly episodes have foot stuff in them 🤮

@bluebaron6858

Ай бұрын

And technically all 109 iCarly episodes have foot stuff in them 🤮

@Nick_Fade

Ай бұрын

My jaw dropped

@thatonecatwiththetophat

Ай бұрын

Yeah tbh I thought he was gonna say "that do" my man gave me a mental flashbang with the _dont_

@skibidi.G

19 күн бұрын

109 countries!

Brian Peck, as a registered sex offender of CSA, getting a job on ‘the suite life of Zack and Cody’ disgusts me in ways I can’t put into words.

@natagu5794

Ай бұрын

I don't know, if it's true, but Disney fired him when they found out about his past. But the problem is, that he already worked on three episodes. Why couldn't they just look more into people they hire?

@Interstellar643

Ай бұрын

Apparently, he also played the voice of London Tipton’s mirror…

@SunBeeSmoked

Ай бұрын

@@natagu5794yeah there’s only two real possibilities here. 1. They didn’t do their due diligence and hired him before a complete background check, which is neglectful at best. 2. They did do the background check and just hoped that no one would give them flak for it, but someone found out and “brought it to their attention”. Which would be horrific. I could see the actress of the mom finding out and raising hell about it considering how often she protected the kids on set.

@strongestunited

Ай бұрын

what about the short 16 month sentence???

@blank3arth

Ай бұрын

@@SunBeeSmokedFrom the documentary it seems like a lot of people didn't know the true horror of what Brian had done. Plus he was so well liked by everyone in the industry that it must have drowned out the bad stuff. Hence why Drake was so afraid to say anything at first.

"It might not be illegal, but its WRONG." You've perfectly summed up everything about the Dan Schneider effect in one sentence holy shit.

@ghost_fishhh

Ай бұрын

@@ville__ huh?

@Sugarman96

Ай бұрын

​@@ville__ who's Quinn?

@Adrian-qk9jh

Ай бұрын

​@@ville__ ???

@axr1798

Ай бұрын

@@ville__ Miranda Sings?

@iluvsonicxshadow

Ай бұрын

​​@@ville__ my comment is about Dan Schneider what are you talking about

I love how the entire first act of this video is a play-by-play of how Dan Schneider plagarized an entire show

@bilis2866

Ай бұрын

those are age old tropes

@leilanyx_

Ай бұрын

​@@bilis2866it still shows he's unoriginal and it's imo, too much of a coincidence that all of these shows have similar episode plots or overall plots to previous things he's specifically worked on. it simply discredits him as the genius comedic writer that nickelodeon and others used to praise him for when all he really did was continuously recycle these ideas.

@bilis2866

Ай бұрын

@@leilanyx_ none of these tropes are original, originality doesn't exist

@kingofthegundam7974

28 күн бұрын

I feel like reducing it to originality or plagiarism misses the point of what Quinton was really getting at... namely that Dan Schneider pulled from his own experiences in making these shows, thus they don't exist in a vaccuum.

@DigitalLife3000

9 күн бұрын

@@kingofthegundam7974”Simpsons did it” vibes

There really is a devaluation in America of any forms of child abuse that isn't sexually touching kids. Mental and emotional abuse below that level can STILL be just as devastating to a child. But a lot of the time we treat them as "walk it off" situations...

@raze2012_

Ай бұрын

one's illegal and very easy to prove. One's not and nearly impossible to show. I do think there's a lot of autonomy kids loss after the turn from Gen X to millenial and Gen Z, and that equally stunt's a kid's ability to grow into themsevles, as they are robbed of valuable socizliation aspects and worldy views in order to minmax towards a harvard application or tunnel vision them into thinking there's only 3 types of viable careers. And that's another form of emotional abuse that is seen as accatable, "they just wanted their kid to succeed". No, you wanted them to live out your financial dreams and took everything from them. But that is a very hot take that would be shouted down in today's time. helicopter parenting was a huge mistake and stranger danger enabled it.

@SuperMiIk

Ай бұрын

Let's be real, people don't even take sexual abuse as seriously as they'd like to think they do. You ask anyone if they think pedophilia is bad and they'll absolutely say yes, but mention their favorite artist or celebrity or friend or family member and the excuses start. Or the claims that the child was lying. In all areas people do not tend to side with victims

@marw9541

Ай бұрын

"In America" is a really weird condition for your statement. Is it because that is the only country you are from and understand? Because I've seen this present in many places

@naomidoner9803

Ай бұрын

I hear your complaint and I agree with it but I want to add that until the last 20ish years even with physical SA the children weren't protected ... and if the abuse had not occurred within 7 years your time was up to ever do anything about it 😢 ..... I am just saying that we have come far in my lifetime to at least discuss this openly... also it was not limited to Hollywood ... 8 out of 10 girls I ever discussed this with had some form of sa .... keep the discussion going and the laws improving ❤ .,, I just want to add pedophilia is a sexual orientation that can't be reformed in a prison ... they become murderers in prison and leave no witnesses in their future assaults .... # Jessica Lunsford and Cherish Periwinkle .... just two little girls from my local area murdered by a previously convicted predator..,

@undercookedtoast1479

Ай бұрын

@@marw9541 just bc they say it happens in America doesn’t mean they are saying it doesn’t happen in other places. It is highly likely they are from america and that is the place they have the most cultural experience/exposure. Its not weird to limit smthn like that to a country or even a state/province, especially when the alternative is to assume the entire world operates in the same way as your home country/state/province/etc.

Quinton watches the whole of iCarly, then a reboot is announced before the video is released. Quinton plans to talk about Jeanette McCurdy's life, then she writes a book before the video is released. Quinton plans to talk about Dan Schneider, then he reappears after being silent for years, before the video comes out. Quinton is either the main character or he is been having some seriously good RNG.

@BelBelle468

Ай бұрын

It’s always crazy when you get into something, and after years of silence something related to what you’re suddenly working on or interested in becomes topical/relevant again.

@SilverRagaire

Ай бұрын

RNGesus works in mysterious ways.

@daemonspudguy

Ай бұрын

Por que no les dos?

@Halfendymion

Ай бұрын

Quinton comes up with the name "Metaverse" before Mark Zuckerburg but is only able to upload the video after Zucc announces it

@JoseAGamez-ci9rt

Ай бұрын

Please Quinton, make a video about me winning the lottery.

Thank fuck you're normal about this and actually taking the issue seriously instead of treating it like internet drama.

@violetsparkles5453

Ай бұрын

Thank god. I’ve been avoiding my subscriptions all week because it’s all Dan Schneider stuff and I already know what they’re gonna say. I only and I mean ONLY exclusively clicked on Quinton’s video for the reasons you mention

@LaLloronaVT

Ай бұрын

@@violetsparkles5453fucking ditto, I’ve known for years about how awful it is to work in the industry as a kid let alone as an adult because I heavily wanted to be an actor since I was a kid, after plenty of research I was mortified at stories I’d hear or the treatment of child actors, I’m so happy Quinton actually presented a very thoughtful and thorough video that wasn’t just cheap and vulgar sensationalism

@violetsparkles5453

Ай бұрын

@@LaLloronaVT it’s not even just the entertainment industry. So much shit happens to people because shithead people are allowed to do what they want without consequence. Thankfully, it gets better… Hope you’re doing alright

@violetsparkles5453

Ай бұрын

@@LaLloronaVT I’m glad to see these situations talked about with the nuance they deserve

@vespernight4236

Ай бұрын

I feel the same. I saw recently its been coming up again on those shitty 'drama' channels and I didn't click on this video until I saw Quinton is the one who made it. Don't trust other channels to be...an adult about it.

“”Because such poor boundaries were in place, something *must* have happened.” But this is the wrong way to look at this. The correct logic is, “something *could* have happened, thus there should have been better boundaries.”” 👏👏👏👏

I love the genius of Quinton starting off with Head of the Class, which seems like an unusual tangent for a video that would eventually get to iCarly and Amanda show... and in his own description of Mr. Moore, says his stories begin with a "tangent that seems totally meaningless at first, before eventually revealing it to be an essential part of understanding a lesson or piece of the wider story.." the foreshadowing is amazing.

Brad Pitt being on a sitcom with Dan Shneider was not on my bingo card

@jonathaneilbeck2263

Ай бұрын

You'd be surprised at how many big name actors got there start as jobbing actors. Watch any cop show, you'll see several pre-fame faces.

@mrlevinielsen

Ай бұрын

surreal

@Daddywiseclussy

Ай бұрын

Watch 21 Jump Street. The show not the movies. Brad Pitt had an episode with Johnny Depp

@mickeyveach3612

Ай бұрын

Brad Pitt made a lot of random appearances in sitcoms during the late 80s and early 90s. It's almost a fun little game.

@violetsparkles5453

Ай бұрын

Not Brad Pitt but Christian Bale played a lead role in an old Disney musical called the Newsies He’s a Disney child star.

Dan Schneider is a symptom, not the illness, and you might be the first person I've seen point that out.

@quack9pm

Ай бұрын

Bump 💥

@CamBoone

Ай бұрын

More like a virus, constantly mutating to infect other hosts on & on until it’s treated.

@man4437

Ай бұрын

I like to call this "chronic anti-systemic thinking",where people take what's clearly a problem caused by faults in our economic, social or justice systems, and - as Quinton points out - they choose a blatantly evil scapegoat to push all of their negative feelings about that system onto. It's a very conservative way of thinking. Not politically (although that does show, too), but it's a way for us to justify or ignore the material conditions that allow people like Schneider to do what they did. In this case, it's partially because it's uncomfortable to face just how incestuous and abusive the entertainment industry is. A similar "fall guy" is Epstein. We all know he was an awful guy, but the way he's talked about, it's almost treated like all abuse radiates out from him somehow and that if he weren't "taken out" he would've ended it all with his testimony, smoehow. The truth is, these are patterns of malignant behaviour that the system excuses or looks the other way on. It's not one guy, it's a history of men in positions of social and economic power abusing those with less. He's just such a comically evil guy that people can have a laugh at it and go on with their day without further insight needed.

@csrjjsmp

Ай бұрын

People don’t want to admit that men are the problem

@rezinicodragon

Ай бұрын

@@man4437well said

I'm from Germany and I don't know anything about Dan Schneider nor did I watch a minute of any of the shows you mentioned. I still watched the whole two hours of your video because in this day and age it is so soothing to listen to someone trying to approach something with as much common sense and appropriate proportionality as he can muster. Thank you for that.

@CobaltContrast

Ай бұрын

Same.

@wolfexer8250

17 күн бұрын

Same, but from Poland

@ivanbitunjac3303

15 күн бұрын

Same, from Croatia

@LegioXXI

4 күн бұрын

Well maybe you are born after the 2000s, but Dan Schneider's shows like iCarly or Drake & Josh were also massive popular here in Germany (and Europe in general). This doesn't make it easier, is like finding out an old friend from childhood landed in prison. So many innocent bubbles got shattered after learning about all this.

@gunver79

14 сағат бұрын

@@LegioXXI Born after the 2000s? Check my username and think again. 😄 Did your bubble get shattered?

Explaining the storylines of Head of the Class for no apparent reason, then later demonstrating how he copied those storylines in all his own shows was genius.

Honestly, the Quiet on the Set docco succeeded in shifting my opinion on child stars from "there's a pervasive culture of child abuse in the industry, stronger, stricter safe-guards are necessary" to "burn the entire industry down". Drake Bell's father was almost comically perfect - he got his kid into acting because his kid loved old movies and old movie stars, and he heard the warnings about how some people in the industry act and stayed _extremely_ vigilant. He never let Drake out of his sight, and he correctly identified suspicious signs around Brian Peck. But it wasn't enough. The industry's culture of plausible deniability and protection of their own in-group led to Mr. Bell being shunned on-set, and eventually, infuriatingly, forced out of Drake's life. The fact that a parent went so above and beyond in what their role as a guardian of a child star _should_ be, and it _still_ wasn't enough? It's fucked, it's completely fucked.

@x-man9473

Ай бұрын

We can burn the industry down if we start watching independent films more often, instead of the mainstream Hollywood ones.

@vitalepitts

Ай бұрын

@@x-man9473 it's not that simple. Part of why it's pervasive in children's media is the fact that children do not think about the actors' conditions and given how many children have unsupervised Internet access even still has created a giant industry of fucked up "children's content" online.

@blank3arth

Ай бұрын

It was truly horrifying and heartbreaking watching how good Brian was a driving a wedge between Drake and his Dad. It really showed just how much of a monster he is. It was good to see at the end they were able to fix their relationship.

@fuzzydunlop7928

Ай бұрын

Master gaslighters in that part of town, they're like a hivemind or a cult.

@SeymourDisapproves

Ай бұрын

​@@x-man9473 "vote with your dollar" is not a synonym for "burn this awful system to the ground." Christ alive that is the most lukewarm "baby's first praxis" take I've ever read.

Recently I've seen people commenting on Amanda Bynes tiktoks like she's not there, or is even a person. She makes a tiktok talking about the wigs she likes, and the first comment is about how Dan Schneider impregnated her at 13 and made her get an abortion. Ok, let's entertain that for a second. So, a victim of CSA, rape and forced abortion decides, after years of being away from the media, create a tiktok so she can tell people about her interests and objectives, she's talking about how she's trying again for a manicure license, and then decides to check the comments just to be BOMBARDED by triggers, EXPLICIT descriptions of what the worst things she has ever been through were like, and people speculating and theorizing about her as if she's a character and not a real person, and even demanding her to speak on it, to prove their theories, to show the aborted fetus, or something else shocking. True Crime content has truly destroyed people's capacity to respect victims. Or to respect anyone at all. Thank you for this video Quinton.

@NoNameHereOrThere

Ай бұрын

The sad thing is that she has said before that she hasn't experienced abuse on set and people won't just take her word for it, clinging to an anonymous twitter account instead. Same with people still claiming Schneider is the father of Jamie Lynn's child, despite the fact that we know who the father is.

@soomise

Ай бұрын

the way people talk about amanda bynes as if she’s not there pisses me off

@cosmosisrose

Ай бұрын

people really don’t give a fuck about victims of abuse and/or mentally ill people. it’s all for show, so they can _look_ like they care. as someone dealing with mental issues since I was very young I’ve always been able to see right through it and it pissed me off as a kid just as much as it does now. social media made it a whole lot worse but even before that was big there were always the family members and teachers and etc. who pitied me and talked about me behind my back, supposedly because they cared. I have to tread carefully consuming any of this stuff about child stars because although I thankfully never was one, they’re like the most clear target of this mentality and it triggers me. the fact it’s inescapable for them is so so sad.

@blank3arth

Ай бұрын

@@NoNameHereOrThereYeah Dan from the doc didn't seem like a pedo. I think he saw Amanda as his golden ticket that he could exploit.

@oldasyouromens

Ай бұрын

Amanda doesn't need that from strangers. No one does, but she's hypervisible.

Very important point that people seem not to be sure how to properly contextualize this sort of controversy. Many people focus on their own relationship with the characters in these shows (e.g., "my childhood is ruined") rather than being able to think of child actors as real people who exist and have lives outside of the feelings of the audience. I don't think people do this out of malice but it's an extremely important thing to recognize and correct in ourselves.

This is the first video I've seen of yours and I'm really astounded by the great writing, the callbacks and self referential framing, and the integrity that's been able to come across. You managed to be delicate while still sarcastic and entertaining. You're the only person I've ever seen cover this topic without reading into innocuous things or intentionally spinning the narrative one way or the other. Taking the time to point out that this work environment and lack of boundaries is a problem in itself, and doesn't need to be any more sinister or sensationalized to still be unhealthy and unethical. And really appreciate that you were able to give context and explain the clips in question and why they are exploitative without actually SHOWING the clips and the exploitation. Really respect that you took the route of telling rather than showing. Especially when this discussion could be retraumatizing to the children involved. Overall just the amount of time, energy, and care that you took with discussing a really complex, intertwined set of topics. The effort really comes across, this is really impressive and well-written. Thank you so much for giving this the adequate care to be educational rather than furthering the exploitation of these employees and kids. Just so impressed, genuinely.

@dysmissme7343

Ай бұрын

He’s basically a Nickelodeon historian so… yeah

The idea that a CHILD is at fault for tempting or seducing a grown adult man is horrific in any case. I don’t care what those people were told. There is no world in which I am demonizing a 14-16 year old CHILD for being assaulted. Disgusting.

@the-berries-and-cream-dude

Ай бұрын

And to make it worst it was all ADULTS blaming a teenager for “seducing” a grown man 🤮

@SpellboundWolf

Ай бұрын

Read about what the world did to Amy Fisher in the '90s, if you want to feel like garbage for a while.

@sinnabab

Ай бұрын

@@the-berries-and-cream-dudeno fr 😭 as the adult in the situation, THEY are the ones who should've removed themselves from it or taken measures to not escalate the situation, but instead they CHOSE to act on their desires and then blame the child for it because "oh, i'm/i was a responsible adult" (an excuse which became redundant the moment they laid their hands/set their eyes on the kid) so fucked up

@-chloe-8728

Ай бұрын

the fact that Peck was hired by Disney to work on another children’s show after serving prison time for assaulting a child is nauseating

@UnprofessionalProfessor

Ай бұрын

​@@ville__Why, tho?

1:03:00 Quinton: “There are 28 episodes of iCarly…” Me: Oh, that’s not so bad! Only 28 episodes with feet references? Quinton: “That DO NOT feature some kind of weird foot thing.”

@PIZZA-kv1js

Ай бұрын

Literally at that moment i was like "thats it????"

@csales76

Ай бұрын

Yeah. I mean, I do agree that our awareness of fetishes is probably much keener now than it was then, and imagine how adults writing kids comedy may have been even less aware of it... But it's still weird for that many jokes to involve feet. There are so many other areas of teen life you can joke about.

@sealsdontneedtoeat4270

Ай бұрын

I think even 28 episodes involving a disguised fetish is a concerning amount

@gracel2mart

Ай бұрын

My exact line of thought also! “Oh 28 is bad, but could be a lot wor- oh no.”

@gracel2mart

Ай бұрын

@@sealsdontneedtoeat4270yeah that makes it even more shocking. 28 episodes on a kid show is bad, only 28 without is REALLY bad.

One of the biggest issues I have a problem with this criticism of Dan Schneider is that there will many many other adults on set and at the network who allowed of this to happen. Dan just happens to be the fall guy when the main issue is Nickelodeon as a company. They're the one that allowed this toxic workplace to carry on for so long.

@bluebaron6858

Ай бұрын

Yep and probably still happening today

@RooyaHussain

Ай бұрын

I do wonder about the directors of those episodes.... what about them? There was literally a clip of a director telling Ariana Grande to act cute or sweet or something, I'm not sure which... so what about the adult, i think mostly male if not all, directors?

@bluebaron6858

Ай бұрын

@@RooyaHussain I'm kinda shocked ariannes character on that show did not make even hate her. I hate her acting on it!

@SugarbirdyOvO

Ай бұрын

That topic was talked about extensively and was the main point of Part 7, there isn't a lack of acknowledgement of it in this criticism. It's at 1:41:04 if you would like to watch it ^^

the way I see it, Spencer is how Dan sees himself, and Sicowitz is how he comes across a lot of the time

@tuttiman55

5 күн бұрын

I think this is a good way to put it, Spencer is a likable character and he’s supposed to be, but I see it as less of “how Dan sees himself” and more of “how Dan wants others to perceive him” and it’s that difference that needs to be distinguish, Spencer is Dan but he’s stripped away all of his aspects that he didn’t want people know, those holes that were left were then filled with Jerry Trainor’s genuine care for his cast mates as he was the only one who could help them on set most days

@npitzer

5 күн бұрын

@@tuttiman55 absolutely!

"...I also got a lot less pretentious." This series has gone on so long that Quinton had a character arc.

@1068cris

Ай бұрын

💀

@GDNachoo

Ай бұрын

true though, have you seen the "2 AM Regrets" video in his second channel?

@Yamartim

Ай бұрын

Man has been doing this for like 4 years now it's only natural for him to grow alongside the project

@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051

Ай бұрын

That is a understatement.

@Litlilfrnchfry55

Ай бұрын

he didn't really get less pretentious. He's the same to me. Look at the fall guy segment. He spent all that time building up the nuanced difference between what he knows, damn fucking well what that title implies, and what he actually means by it, only for that difference to be really really simple and easy to understand. Nobody is gonna misinterpret that, people just already kind came to conclude that implication on their own.

Quiet on Set is ABSOLUTELY the industry's way of saying, "hey! we caught the bad guy! don't worry about what else is going on behind the curtain" so that they can continue to get away with the continued abuse of child actors. It's intended to make people at home feel like someone is finally taking action when that's not the case at all. I'm SO GLAD that this video exists, because it encapsulates the necessity of conversations that STILL need to be had and action that STILL needs to be taken.

@dillonwalshpvd

Ай бұрын

The fact that everyone isn’t seeing it that way is… well, I guess not surprising

@unbotheredhoney3372

Ай бұрын

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING!! like yes its so good that things are getting revealed especially in the terms of CSA, but its so disheartening because the industry is literally BUILT off this shit and always has been! people found a culprit, a worthy scapegoat to point fingers too and im worried that its probably going to just end there while not real changes or actions are made!

@shoyuramenoff

Ай бұрын

Tbh, I don't see it that way. I got "this is just the beginning", not "we got em!" The ending was really somber and had no happy ending just "we are traumatized af now". I was really surprised, actually. I was like "wait, that's it? No wrap up?" I'm glad they did that. EDIT: Apparently the show isn't over yet. So it's still too early to say. But yeah, the entire thing felt really somber and respectful to the people who talked about their experiences, and it was more like a Nickelodeon predator timeline and how the child stars and adult crew members were failed by the industry.

@snakezase2998

Ай бұрын

It’s at least still a win even if it’s just the tip of the iceberg

@quantumleap1491

Ай бұрын

Yeah no, that’s not what this documentary was, while agree there’s more to come, but kids entertainment is just the tip of the iceberg, it’s the movie industry, the tv industry and the music industry, it’s Hollywood as a whole, and seeing it finally coming apart with diddy and seeing his friends leaving the country too makes me happy because every thing people like me and others who have been talking about this for years and have been told we are “crazy” q anon theorists it makes me happy to say we told you so.

we may be in a dogshit age for television, but the age of the video essay/long form media content is flourishing and at least we can take comfort in truly fantastic productions like this one with creators like Quinton who bring integrity, thought, dedication, nuance, and wit to our screens.

I feel like there's a line in media that nobody really talks about, where something goes from edgy to fetish content. Like you said with the example of fart jokes, having a character who's gimmick is farting a lot or smells bad, is an edgy joke, but having a character who enjoys being around them specifically because of those traits, that crosses the line. That's why I think a lot of people look back at Schneider's Bakery shows, and say, "this is kinda fetish-y" it's less the amount of times feet come up, and more the amount of antagonistic characters who's defining trait is disliking feet. As if doing bad things to feet is instantly the peak of villainy that makes it weird. It's the amount of fetish content in the shows that either aren't disguised as jokes, or jokes that imply that the fetish is the normal thing that makes it really inappropriate.

@Attmay

Ай бұрын

It is selling sexual perversion to children and the sales pitch is coming from a member of multiple oppressor classes. All of this represents rape culture. The whole thing.

@IPS-bk2wr

21 күн бұрын

I really wish he at least had a belly fetish instead of a foot fetish. Such an abnormal kink

“Creator of Young Sheldon and none pizza, left beef” I’m never emotionally prepared for you casually dropping mind blowing facts like this

@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops

Ай бұрын

Just like finding out Steve from Blues Clues sung the Young Sheldon theme song.

@lagggoat7170

Ай бұрын

Or that Anthony Padilla filmed the "Two bros sitting in a hot tub - five feet apart cuz theyre not gay" - Vine

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep

Ай бұрын

​@@ElizabethMidfordHatesCopsHe's also in the show itself as a nerd with a Marvel comic that Sheldon wanted

@HushSkunk

Ай бұрын

Idk why but I always assumed the person who invented none pizza with left beef was a girl.

@livelollobotomy

Ай бұрын

SERIOUSLY i was like quinton PLEASE NOT NOW IM TRYING TO LISTEN TO QUINTON

Thanks for specifying that sexual abuse isn't needed for this to be bad and that severe emotional abuse is awful. I feel like a lot of people view it as a "lesser abuse" and like to project other abuses on it when it's horrid all on its own.

@CyberGirl1234

Ай бұрын

emotional abuse is insidious that way. we often attribute signs of it as personality flaws. we never know what someone is going through, especially what their world view was molded into. what worse is emotional abuse often accompanies physical abuse, but people tend to attribute the symptoms of the former to the latter ❤ great comment.

@hannahp1108

Ай бұрын

100%

@lexa2310

Ай бұрын

Never mind the intense sexism he apparently just casually threw around and how unstable he was as a person, poisoning the workplace for everyone.

@ConejitoPequenito

Ай бұрын

True, but this is also sexual abuse. It's both, and both are detrimental to the children's health. Those back- and foot massages do not go over the children's heads

It's sickening not only on the part of the entertainment industry but on the justice system. "You assaulted a child? You get um..... 16 months in jail and... uhh... a job with Disney." WHAT?! It just goes to show the justice system is only "hard on crime" unless the perpetrator has influence and knows some people!

I feel like you really hit the nail on the head with the question: Is our right to enjoy these fictional characters/universes unbothered *truly* more important than the real people who have been harmed because of it? I've been trying to figure out how to put that into words for a few years, and you put it so concisely and effectively. I may have to keep that one in my pocket for next time discourse comes knocking

It’s also one of my biggest pet peeves that every internet detective has gone “pedophile crazy” where they think it is their sole job to locate pedophiles and out them. Children can be abused WITHOUT sexual abuse, and that is STILL BAD!!! These “pedophile hunters” constantly spread misinformation and devalue any abuse that isn’t direct sexual contact.

@ItBeThatWaySometimes

Ай бұрын

The entire Alexa Nicholas “eat predators” thing is absolutely what you’re talking about. It’s insaneeee

@iatecielssoulsorrysebastian

Ай бұрын

This reminds me of the whole mamamax situation where he turned out to be a huge fraud and never got a single pedo arrested

@RevanAlaire

Ай бұрын

@@ItBeThatWaySometimesAnd used to disparage or even dismiss the abuse she experienced.

@circeeldritchtheworkaholic8934

Ай бұрын

@@iatecielssoulsorrysebastian ..what? wait explain, i really looked up to mamamax (but have since fallen out on his content)

@angeltheprocrastinator8014

Ай бұрын

victoria justice and others on zoey 101 were 13-14 kissing 18-22 year olds on scene that is proof of sexual misconduct and assault of minors that was happening on set.

the message i got from this: its not dan schneider that's the biggest problem here, its nickelodeon. the corporation that hired him, let these children be abused, and continues to hire awful people and child predators on set with children. the cycle of abuse will continue, and the fight is not over because Dan no longer works there.

@bluebaron6858

Ай бұрын

Yep but sadly it's not the conversation people want to have.

@alisona.4166

Ай бұрын

It isn't just Nickelodeon, it's almost every entertainment company that has ever existed, it's the industry itself that keeps everything under wraps because they need to have creatives that produce content that will be well received at the fastest possible pace, and even just one person getting removed could cause many projects to collapse. These collapses lose the companies a lot of potential earnings, however their largest concern is that some of their stockholders may sell off shares, causing their value to drop, which may lead to more stockholders selling due to the sudden dip to prevent further loss of value until the stock is completely unable to recover and the company most likely shuts down. They fear that if the terrible things that happened are made known and punishments are made in a more frequent and timely manner that their entire companies will collapse, so they allow bad actors to get away with their abuses, which emboldens the sense of power these bad actors feel and allows for things to get worse. The companies only allow extremely underexaggerated versions of the abuse to be known after the bad actors become unprofitable, like how Henry Danger's underperformance was likely the reason Nickelodeon finally decided to let Dan go.

@oliviaoob1426

Ай бұрын

Quinton points out that the Disney Channel hires back Brian Peck after he's released from prison. Nickelodeon itself isn't close to being the biggest problem, it's that the structure of the system/systems we're in enables people in power to abuse and exploit without suffering the consequences. The entertainment industry is just one venue where that can happen.

@LonelyStardefender

Ай бұрын

you got only part of the message...watch it again

@Cyborg-Ginger

Ай бұрын

​@@oliviaoob1426 yes! I came here to comment this!

1:01:15 The "created by Dan Schneider" text appearing right after the line "Feel these kids' feet" could not be more perfect

Quinton, I watched every episode in this series in full from start to finish--not to fall asleep. Thank you for the years of work, commitment, honesty, and attention to detail that went into the making of this. This final video truly feels like the culmination of this passion project, and it was masterful. Seriously, thank you.

As an CSA survivor, I applaud your efforts to not this video sensationalized and not including anything that was not verified. It shows you have a lot of respect for the topic

@Poppleworks

Ай бұрын

Agreed, though the Drake Bell stuff does not reflect the findings of the court, and I do think perhaps more research could have been done before making jokes akin to those one would make about people like Matt Gaetz.

@schmingbeefin4473

Ай бұрын

​@@Poppleworks Yeah... wasn't he found innocent, but none of the headlines were updated/not a big noise was made of him being innocent, so people still see him as an awful person?

@Poppleworks

Ай бұрын

@@schmingbeefin4473 Exactly. Drake broke contact immediately upon learning the age, never once engaged in anything illegal, and plead guilty to child endangerment when confronted with the fact that he was chatting non-sexually with a minor.

@elleuno1165

Ай бұрын

@@schmingbeefin4473 it looks like poisoning the well. Once a story is out and running its hard to correct course, and why would they if it serves the need of the powers that be.

@bece00

Ай бұрын

@@elleuno1165 would love to know how you think this serves "the powers"

When you said 28, I was like,”Wow feet were shown 28 times. That’s crazy.” Then you said “28 episodes” and I was like “oh my god are you serious??” Then you said “28 episodes that don’t show feet.” I physically stopped everything I was doing and gasped and looked at my phone. That is absolutely absurd

@venicewright7126

Ай бұрын

That was my exact reaction

@lunalesombras1150

Ай бұрын

I actually had the exact opposite reaction. Huh, only 28 times. That seems really low across like 13~14 seasons Oh, 28 *episodes*, that makes more sense. Yeah, that tracks.

@spungbopscarepans

Ай бұрын

wait which timestamp was that

@scrunkykat

Ай бұрын

1:02:27 @@spungbopscarepans

@concernedandequal1928

Ай бұрын

dramatic much

“so. are you ready for the future? because i’ll tell you one thing- …i’m not.” with static growing steadily in the background gave me genuine chills. great fuckin job on this video, mate. really glad this was my introduction to your channel

The statistic you drop at 1:02:37 was so shocking, it was a Defunctland twist level of "oh my god" (although a much more depressing context). But achieving a Defunctland level shock is a REALLY high bar. Excellent analysis, and really well thought-out.

I feel like the take that Spencer is basically a Dan Schneider self-insert makes more sense when you realize that's totally how Dan sees himself, he views himself as this hip, cool older figure to these child stars, the ideal older brother as some fans say, the guy that may be a bit eccentric but still cares for these kids and gets them on the path to stardom. Spencer is Dan Schneider before you take a step back and actually see what's happening behind the scenes and realize how awful of a person Dan is.

@caio7932

Ай бұрын

That's what I thought too, its more of a idealized self image thing rather than like a deep look into his psyche or something

@IoleAllia

Ай бұрын

Same honestly. I had such a visceral knee jerk to it but it makes sense and it's so. Sad honestly. Spencer is the Dan that he wanted everyone to see him as and instead in reality he's just hurt so many people

@anonymous-rq2lh

Ай бұрын

this comment actually reminded me of that one icarly christmas episode (forgot the title, it’s the one where carly wishes spencer was “normal”). it hits so much worse with quinton’s theory in mind: spencer does something reckless that has destructive consequences, carly is understandably angry and wants spencer to act his age, but changes her mind after seeing an alternate reality where everyone is worse off in exchange for spencer being “normal”. now it feels less like a story about carly accepting her brother for who he is and more like “dan/spencer does destructive things at the expense of the young people around him, but what can you do? we’d all be worse off if he chose to be the adult in a given situation”. (i doubt that was actually the intent, but still)

@smoldream2908

Ай бұрын

not to mention the similarities between Spencer and other character archetypes from his previous shows that Quinton points out

@merchantshipss

Ай бұрын

This is so true and because of this i think if Spencer was played by anyone besides Jerry Trainor it would not read well.

cool to see you're uploading shorts on this channel too now!

@shakingmysmh

Ай бұрын

LOL

@Whoisdemar

Ай бұрын

Ik it’s great to see Quinton make short form content

@TheDarkSide73914

Ай бұрын

Lmaooooo

@evanandrewlofi

Ай бұрын

Funniest comment I'll read all year

@Dr_J_623

Ай бұрын

This legitimately sent me 😂 Thank you

I'm so glad you're approaching this in a well-rounded way. Abusive people aren't black and white evil, they can and often do do good things and show their humanity while at the same time continuing to be abusive people and that's really important to remember because if we forget this we'll be unable to recognize it in our day-to-day lives. I'm not great at wording this but anyway, I was glad to hear your take on all this. I also agree with you that these shows are the result of everyone who worked on them and I don't think the actors/actresses involved in these shows have to feel ashamed of their characters.

"Mr Moore has a tendency to begin his lessons on tangents which seem totally meaningless at first before eventually revealing them to be an essential part of understanding a lesson or piece of the wider story." oh I SEE WOT U DID THERE

"Dan Schneider will never work in TV again, unless The Daily Wire gets a really, REALLY stupid idea" Quinton don't tempt the universe like that

@DissertatingMedieval

Ай бұрын

They're already doing that "Bluey" knockoff and it's obvious they want to do more entertainment, so you may be right that it's coming.

@SandwitchZebra

Ай бұрын

Some of the hosts have already capitalized on the situation to talk about it (you’d think this would be a topic they’d have covered years ago with how “concerned” they are for children) Of course they’re trying to turn “the industry is corrupt” into “the industry is corrupt AND WOKE” but regardless, we shouldn’t have to worry about them doing anything with him

@DwRockett

Ай бұрын

Oh goddamnit, this is gonna happen now, won’t it?

@eliasmg9144

Ай бұрын

​@@DissertatingMedieval And Quinton has a weird talent with his timing, so... I say it has an 8 and a third chance of happening

@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad

Ай бұрын

@@SandwitchZebra Thing is the industry is in fact corrupt and woke, Dan aren't the only one i hope you know that

"hm, why is he telling me of that old 80s sitcom?" ... "OH NO!" "oh no no no no..." ... "oh n- oh hey brad pitt!"

@GOLDHAJIKVONGOLA

Ай бұрын

for me was like: "hm, why is he telling me of that old 80s sitcom?" "hey is that john travolta?" ... "OH NO!" "oh no no no no..." ... "oh n- oh hey brat pitt!"

@hahu9088

Ай бұрын

@@GOLDHAJIKVONGOLADidn't even notice john Travolta 😂

@Sugarman96

Ай бұрын

@@GOLDHAJIKVONGOLA For me it was that, followed by: "Wait, is that Ke Huy Quan?"

@Gromlynz

Ай бұрын

Throw in KE HUY QUAN????? as well

@ponzio8196

Ай бұрын

It was a screamer when Dan appeared

Something that rarely get mentioned is that Elizabeth Gillies Married a middle, aged producer, for Victorious Whom she met when she was a teenager. he likely Had a hand in casting her

@bluebaron6858

Ай бұрын

Terrifying

Ignoring the cultural root of our issues to more easily and comfortably blame a single individual is thematic across all of our social issues. I appreciate you talking about this.

seperating the art from the artist is getting really difficult when every 3 minutes in these shows you are bombarded by something that makes you go "oh thats not-"

@sleepysadpoet

Ай бұрын

It's almost as if people can't always separate the art from the artist bc the artist is intrinsically linked to the art. It's ok to have nostalgia for things you enjoyed as a kid. Nostalgia blinds people sometimes. But I'm someone who really can't separate art from artists. If ppl can that's great, but I can't.

@lenlaegrim

Ай бұрын

@@sleepysadpoet yeah same, I've always taken "death of the author" to mean that once the thing is done, creators don't get to tell you how to feel or what to think or if what you interpret is right or not. In a lot of media classes they'll straight up tell you that it's impossible to separate art from artist because we impregnate all that we create with our worldview, as well as conscious and subconscious biases, to levels we will never be able to comprehend. Very much an "everything you've ever done and every person you've ever been has influenced you and made it into the creation of this thing in one way or another" situation

@gaymer42069

Ай бұрын

Release the Schneider cut. 🗣️

@lionsenkei1621

Ай бұрын

Ya i can agree

@littlemoth4956

Ай бұрын

@@lenlaegrim "it's impossible to separate art from artist because we impregnate all that we create with our worldview" That's incredibly stupid because it implies that you can't take your own opinion of the work. For as long as people can interpret a piece of media separately from how the author intended, then it is very possible to separate them.

Making rule # 1 "I don't wanna get sued" is a high IQ play you don't see often.

@Planag7

Ай бұрын

Why though? People needed to put themselves out there. Look at Cosby...

@thewhitemonkey64

Ай бұрын

Cosby’s case is so beyond messy that I’ve actually come around to believing him. Same with Michael Jackson tbqh. The media tries their hardest to crucify people because then they’ll have headlines that’ll sell, and it makes actually investigating legitimate sexual abuse harder to do.

@slug_slut

Ай бұрын

i lowkey disagree, i feel like way too many youtubers use the "not getting sued" excuse and it just makes me wonder how many of them are actually out there getting sued by the **non-online** people they criticize. (i know some influencers and creators are very fond of cease and desists and sham lawsuits). Obviously Quinton has a big platform and this is a popular topic so i can see why he would avoid it, but a lot of smaller KZreadrs will pull out that excuse for way less relevant topics and it just seems like they're trying to protect their monetization status by not discussing serious issues. could also just be me getting pissed when people don't reveal the juicy shit tho LMAO

@rolandverde8771

Ай бұрын

​@@slug_slut100% the latter

@evandaymon8303

Ай бұрын

For first two replies it is simple. These are very powerful people, he even state he is only using official sources not some tommy sob rocky source that may not be actually true and finally you tried talking shit at a corporation in front of them or some celebrity see how that goes? If you are upset he wont do it. Then you go ahead do it yourself

"It might not be illegal, but it's wrong". Man it's good to hear you say that. I'm glad people out there still have a sense of right and wrong and don't just fall on the "well it's not illegal" bandwagon.

@calistafalcontail

Ай бұрын

Worldly law is flawed, spiritual law is perfect. No matter what humans declare to be okay at a certain time, whats right and wrong will never change and we will pay the price.

This video drives home something I've been thinking for a while: Quinton is the most important media critic discussing these shows. The depth of knowledge and nuance is striking. Many people are flippant about these videos because the media they discuss is made for children, but it is that very fact that makes critiquing it so important, especially when children are harmed in its production. Quinton, I have followed your work on this series on Patreon for years. I know there were many ups and downs throughout its production. Your perseverance in completing it is admirable, and with this video as a capstone, it is truly a masterpiece of media analysis. You drew people in with the very nostalgia you then unpacked and made millions consider the shows they grew up with in a different light. Our generation needed this incredible content, and I hope with the self-reflection it inspires, we can come to deserve it too.

@IPS-bk2wr

21 күн бұрын

He has a few weird takes, but I still like his vids anyways.

My biggest takeaway: Dan Schneider was permitted to act like a little boy, while his child actors were expected to behave and react like adults. I wonder what Dan Schneider's wife thinks about all this?

@zab416

Ай бұрын

His wife's brain has been turned to worms by configuring low-calorie swaps for fast food for the last couple of decades. IDK to be honest. Just feel like roasting diet culture at the moment, but I feel kind of bad for her. I think I would have left him though.

@dinosaysrawr

Ай бұрын

@@zab416, forgive me, but I also can't help wondering what her feet are like, given Dan Schneider's er, predilections.

@MISSMADISONMEDIA

Ай бұрын

The joke writes itself with this one but I’ll be nice and not speculate 😅

@tiny6205

Ай бұрын

@@zab416she gives me the vibe of the almond mom who is constantly eating keto and dieting and fasting and doing Pilates, while calling her husband her baby while stuffing him with tons a food as a way to make herself feel better because she won’t let herself eat it.. that’s probably so random but idk

@craigyeah1052

Ай бұрын

Probably not the biggest takeaway that should've been taken... away....

"Showing pornography on the computers on set" is such a red flag. WTF?

@SPACEDOUT19

Ай бұрын

its just entertainment, why is that so weird. we all watch it

@melodi2036

Ай бұрын

​@@SPACEDOUT19 we don't all watch it and regardless it's inappropriate for a work environment. Literally nsfw

@Kaz7.

Ай бұрын

@@SPACEDOUT19at work? with other people? that's creepy as fuck

@mkayyy1918

Ай бұрын

​@@SPACEDOUT19Because it's on set with children. Also I thought it was child porn

@radhapatel217

Ай бұрын

He worked in children's television, with CHILDREN around his workplace

This is the first report I've seen that actually zooms out on the industry as a whole rather than placing all the blame on one man. Thank you for doing this. Children aren't suddenly safe on sets because one man was fired/a couple "bad eggs" got cut loose. I don't wish more has happened, but assuming more has happened, I hope it keeps coming out. Nick, Disney etc need so many allegations and people coming forward that they literally cannot do anything but shut down or start over.

Glad you kept things tempered, because trying to take allegations to the "next level" in all instances can cheapen how abuse comes in more "acceptable" forms like pushing boundaries, emotional manipulation, and yelling. Horrible that child actors and other employees were subjected to this treatment. It also speaks to how the "high stakes" emotional demands of television and production in general can normalize shitty behaviors from those at the upper end of the power imbalance. Very thoughtful video.

Classic Quinton to work on this project for months only for the situation to blow up way before he could upload the video 😂

@brandoniswhoiam

Ай бұрын

“I’m not finished yet!”

@twite5462

Ай бұрын

He references the doc several times in the video though, he had the info while recording at least

@deathcon6261

Ай бұрын

@@twite5462 I think what sploosh was mentioning was that Mr. Schneider finally broke his years long silence in response to the doc.

@AyyGin

Ай бұрын

Going off of Google Trends, interest in the topic of Dan (get in the van) Schneider is currently at an all time high with the absolute peak being only a few days ago. I'd say Quinton's timing is basically as good as it gets.

@Jake-qt1dp

Ай бұрын

Tbh he will probably get a lot more views now that everyone’s on this - but he’s expanding on it a bit more than most others can

The last part is such a breath of fresh air THANK YOU!!! The fact that everyone is celebrating that Dan got “caught” is why children still get abused. It’s never ONE PERSON ITS A SYSTEM. Did yall not listen to Jennette?? Were Amanda’s cries for help about her abusive parents the ramblings of a maniac?! We’re never EVER gonna have that conversation though because it’s easier when things are black and white. I will NEVER forget this quote someone said because it shows that yall didn’t care, you just wanted your suspicions proven. “HE is the leader. HE hired these men. The cast was HIS to protect. The buck starts and stops with Dan.“

@DigiRangerScott

Ай бұрын

And even after everything they put on him was BRIAN PECK’s doing (namely the general CSA accusations), they’re still acting like it was him. Not that he didn’t do anything wrong, but he wasn’t the perpetrator of THOSE things

@theshire9173

Ай бұрын

Yes! People need to realize that after being released from prison, Brian Peck was not rehired by Schneider. He was hired by Disney. This is not a Dan Schneider thing, not even a Nickelodeon thing. This is an industry problem. They do not care about the well-being of their actors so long as they make money. Disgusting

@Tessa_Gr

Ай бұрын

Yes, none of these problems started with him and it definitely didn't end with him. The fact he got away with emotional abuse, breaking child labor laws, having no boundaries, being extremely sexist, etc. for so long is the bigger issue. Because it could just as well have been someone different. Because the problem is a systemic one, if someone gets away with so much, that means that there is either not nearly enough oversight and/or some of it is encouraged or tolerated by the network. Anyone who is aware of family vlogging content knows that the same issues with child exploitation (in a variety of forms) for entertainment is at least as prevalent as it ever was.

@nikkichavez8418

Ай бұрын

I watch Alexa Nicholas podcast to know all the predators. The people that enable their behavior. Just heartbreaking because these children deserve to be protected. That parents were forced to be sidelined when they had concerns about the content. Or when they saw their children being abused. That they were automatically silenced, told that nothing is wrong. That their child should be grateful for getting the job. Which not only happens at Nickelodeon. Happens on any set in Hollywood. Where abuse is the norm and is not question because it has become so normalized.

@Sugarman96

Ай бұрын

@@Tessa_Gr In a way it's identical to Weinstein. What Weinstein did was abhorrent of course, but he was also backed up by a system that provided cover for him and ruined anyone who even considered speaking out, it was an open secret for a long time. I somehow doubt aspiring actresses are significantly safer in Hollywood now that he got locked up, because the system protects guy like him who help the bottom line, we don't know how many other Weinsteins there are out there.

Alexa Nikolas has gone on record saying the only apology she ever got in regards to poor treatment on set was from Britney. She actually apologized to Alexa 3 times, once in a private DM, in an Instagram post, and in her memoir .

I really am surprised no one is talking about the ending with the HOTC reboot being removed. It really ties together how devastating a situation the industry is. Not only are children still being put in dangerous, emotionally exhausting, and abusive situations, but now their work and effort and struggles might not even be there for the future. There will be nothing for these kids to be remembered by, and they’ll only have their time and energy wasted when their shows inevitably get taken off these services. Things really do need to change soon.

The way my jaw dropped when he unveiled the wash rinse and repeat of the plot lines and characters.

@remiliascarletmybeloved

Ай бұрын

In retrospect it makes a bit of sense when you realize Dan’s history in the industry and something about how there’s nothing new under the sun, but the sitcom as a story telling tool is only as creative as a writer’s imagination can be And dan’s isnt that extensive all things considered

@Attmay

Ай бұрын

@@remiliascarletmybeloved he is a hack as a writer, a cad as a person, and perfectly adequate as an actor. He is the weakest link in *Good Burger* and the sequel was to keep that story going without him. Even the clips of him in the 1980s are difficult to laugh at knowing what kind of a person he is. In the abstract, they might be OK, nothing special, aiming for a little bit higher than they reach like a lot of the shows of this nature, but this is just too big to ignore. He deserved the Roseanne treatment more than Roseanne did!

Realizing dan shinider wasnt even that GOOD at writing is so validating to me. People often have this idea that awful people are like absurdly "good" at their jobs, but really dan was just lucky

@RealKaiserRyu

Ай бұрын

Lucky, like most if not all successful people.

@JoeJoe-lq6bd

Ай бұрын

That's almost everyone everywhere. You wind up with a bit of luck and make friends with the right people and you're a "success." The entire world is decades behind where it should be because it's all run like this.

@JanPyt

Ай бұрын

yes! When I was a kid, I thought Abby Lee was so cruel bc she produced winners and was an amazing choreographer…naur

@iamfabulousfaaab

Ай бұрын

His writing was extremely juvenile, which makes me fearful in a sense due to his behavior he displayed on the children who worked on his sets. I found it funny when I was a kid, specifically because I was a kid. Now, I watch for nostalgia, but I find myself growing more uncomfortable by the feet scenes and s3xual innuendos that shouldn't be in a child sketch. He's a big creep and a writer only for children. He is incapable of having the intelligence to write for adults or write extremely deep critical thinking sketches. Like I said, his writing is juvenile and had he not found success with children's television, he would be somewhere destitute.

@BelBelle468

Ай бұрын

Well everyone has different tastes in media. I never liked Dan’s shows. It has a weird vibe, the humor wasn’t funny (for me), and I disliked the characters for the most part. But I can’t say that the show doesn’t have its good points, esp since Quinton also kinda sold me on its good points with his series. It’s just common that ppl will protect what audiences seem to enjoy, quality of work be damned.

I happened on this video because it was in my recomms and I had heard vaguely about the happenings with Nickeloden. And I stayed for two hours because this was geniunely one of the most captivating video essays I've watched in one sitting. It was incredibly well made and nuanced in a way I truly hope to reach in my own writing. I'm gonna start the trio series in my free time

@Enigamis

Ай бұрын

Welcome! You will find yourself enjoying everything that lead up to this.

Dan Schneider abused Shirley Temple, Dan Schneider forced Judy Garland to take and subsequently be addicted to pills, Dan Schneider kicked Bobby Driscoll out of disney when he was no longer "useful" to them Thank-you for this video, the conversation about the inherent toxicity of the entertainment industry is one that, while has been had before, needs to be louder and ongoing.

@iamthemouse4483

Ай бұрын

I don't remember Quinton mentioning this. Where did you hear about this?

@wilderulz

Ай бұрын

@@iamthemouse4483 mentioning what? the other child actors? I was just bringing up other actors that have been victims of the entertainment industry, and adding onto Quintons point that focusing on schneider and not the wider spread issue is a narrow perspective

@iamthemouse4483

Ай бұрын

@@wilderulz The thing about him forcing Judy Garland to take pills.

@calistafalcontail

Ай бұрын

Judy Garland died in 1969. The f are you talking about? He forced her to take drugs while he was 3 years old?😂 Stop spreading such misinformation. Americans are dumb enough to think this is true.

@wilderulz

Ай бұрын

@@calistafalcontail LOL dude! I was making a point about how the abuse present in the entertainment industry has been rampant long before Dan Schneider, adding to Quintons point that he's being used as a reductive fall guy to disguise a much larger issue. The fact you took it at face value speaks volumes about your ability to understand nuance omf (Also I'm not even American 😂)

something i took note of when watching this video was that you didn't skirt around the heavy words, didn't try to mute them out or use more algorithm-friendly alternatives or tiktok code words like so many youtubers do. you understand the weight that comes with those words. personally i think this shows an additional layer of respect with which you handled this topic, and i really appreciate your overall extremely nuanced and extremely tactful approach to this video. amazing work.

@andeggbreaks

Ай бұрын

Very true

@inandoutofreal1ty

Ай бұрын

I hate when they use funny wordplay

@Emeraldrox303

Ай бұрын

People like, say, Alexa Nikolas, HAVE to skirt words because her platform wouldn't exist if she didn't. She is a victim, and fights for victims, and wouldn't reach the audience shes got without censoring for the algorithm though.

@Attmay

Ай бұрын

Now you know what Hollywood writers had to go through under the production code. To think we went from seven words you can’t say on network television to 800 words you can’t say on KZread.

@NeonUFO

Ай бұрын

​@@Emeraldrox303I think it was clear in my phrasing that I was not talking about victims, and I trust that most people who read my comment intrinsically understood that. I'm referring to KZreadrs who cover things like drama and true crime, who, even if they very likely don't _mean_ any disrespect, come across disrespectful by self-censoring (sometimes in very immature ways) for the sake of appeasing algorithm and staying monetized, essentially treating other people's trauma as their content. People who are victims and are doing this to break through the algorithm are, obviously, not in the same category.

We've officially reached the point where 2 hours of Quinton feels like 10 minutes

@toxsicle9753

Ай бұрын

Oh God, you're right. I need to go watch some youtube shorts to shorten my attention span.

@greym3288

Ай бұрын

honestly! like i watched this video in one sitting because i was like "oh! its a short one!"

@HopefulTomorrow420

Ай бұрын

I'mma rewatch the first Icarly vid now.

@null-fl7qn

Ай бұрын

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I have such respect for you for not accusing anyone who speaks positively/neutral of Dan Schneider of hiding abuse allegations. I find it so disgusting to see people thinking that they are giving victims a platform to speak by speculating on their experience instead of considering the reasons they have for keeping their silence. It could be seriously damaging whether they were or weren't abused.

I have to wonder if Schneider wanting to make media for adults, and not being allowed to, was part of why his shows kept getting all those "kids aren't gonna get this" elements as they went on.

That point at the end about not using Dan Schneider as a scapegoat for all the bad that was done to child actors is huge. Having listened to podcasts from child stars like the neds declassified one and the one by Christy Carlson Romano it's clear that there are abusers all over the industry. The power imbalance a kid has on set is huge and even when a show goes well for them they don't walk away without another part of their life being changed completely

@Tessa_Gr

Ай бұрын

Yes, people need to also talk about the systemic issues. The issue with Dan Schneider obviously is his actions. But it also is the fact he got to the point of acting like this, then could keep on doing this and get away with it for so long. If the system was better designed, he would have had his career ended much sooner, or maybe never set off like this.

@Sugarman96

Ай бұрын

@@Tessa_Gr Dan Schneider is such a good scapegoat for the industry, because anyone who grew up with his shows recognizes his name and face. Putting one guy's face on an issue makes it so much easier to cover the many other actors that are part of it. It's diabolical really.

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep

Ай бұрын

The one time I think they should be using CGI and AI to replace real actors is probably for child roles. Keep children off movie sets as much as possible.

@morganqorishchi8181

Ай бұрын

@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZepCompanies can make more money using kids because child stars are marketable and can be used to move merchandise. The industry would only stop using kids if using kids stopped making them money - if we as a society refused to financially support companies that used them. Instead we've always bought merch of kid stars for our kids. We fueled the machine.

@haruhirogrimgar6047

Ай бұрын

​@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Part of the reason I am opposed to things like a live-action ATLA or just about any property where child actors would be front and center. Is because you can just animate it and use adults. There are still systemic issues. But you can remove at least one vulnerable group from shows/movies.

my mom made a very interesting comment that stuck with me. she said when an animal is cast in a show or movie there’s always a third party person (besides the trainer) to make sure the animal is being treated well on set. it’s just so sad to see that the same couldn’t be/wasn’t done for child stars… very much dehumanizing them for profit.

@romanlegion5837

Ай бұрын

Kids are supposed to have advocates on set for them, im not sure exactly how it works.

@42seven

Ай бұрын

honestly i think it's worse for human kids to be stars then animals, cause at least animals don't become more intelligent than toddlers, and animals will never understand people touching them weird unless it hurts them oh and animals won't go on to become addicts and/or hurt more animals

@sophiekoester5214

Ай бұрын

they do, child actors are unionized and so are the child wranglers who are meant to look after them. but as this video discusses, even adults who are protected by a union are not immune to workplace abuse that stems from exploitation, bigotry, or both-especially when so much of this abuse took place outside of the workplace.

@Spagoooterman

Ай бұрын

​@romanlegion5837 yeah. In california, parents are SUPPOSED to be with their children at ALL TIMES. However, in the case of schnider, the parents were afraid of ruining their childrens careers so they sat off to the side or in a complete other room and didnt do their legal duty. It would be like...if the second for the animal actor was bribed or threatened into not saying anything about how horribly an animal was treated.

@atleyf3500

Ай бұрын

@@Spagoooterman This also requires the parents to be decent. For example Jennetes situation wouldn't have been much better if her mother had been present at all times during filming. And I think a lot of parents who let their child become a celebrity care more about success than the wellbeing of their child.

I'm also really glad to see someone mention Drake Bell's own offenses. What happened to him is absolutely horrible. What he did is also horrible. I don't know why people seem to think that someone is either a pure and perfect victim or a monster. Fucked-up people sometimes do fucked-up things. And it's not his fault he's fucked up. He certainly never deserved or asked for anything that happened to him. But his behavior as an adult is absolutely his fault.

Probably one of the best, well articulated, most memorable videos I have ever watched on this platform. I have watched loads and loads of long thought provoking content, but this is a whole another level, you really really nailed every point on the head; You even dug your boots in the ground and challenged the mainstream thoughtline multiple times and really brought it all down, you brought this sh*t to a science. Great work and truly great ways to approach these disgusting problems in society in how we view media, treat actors, and how most of the time people turn these real life incidents into a damn spectacle while also giving us the facts and not turning this into almost some sort of fictional story which is much too common nowadays.

Spencer is probably a great way to see how Dan sees himself. He's the older brother that everyone loves, he yells randomly and no one dislikes him for it. Spencer is the cool kid that Dan thinks he is

@portcoastelle

Ай бұрын

in a reaching way, its similar to bojack horseman's sitcom career

@jaguarenduda

Ай бұрын

and he fucks

@thebosicothe

Ай бұрын

Did Spencer ever ask for feet pics on the show, I never watched it

@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511

Ай бұрын

​@@thebosicotheSpencer trataba de cuidar a los niños es lo opuesto a sneider

I'm surprised people aren't talking more about that ending segment. To me, it is an undeniable fact that Dan Schneider is hardly an exception in regards to the horrible treatment of child stars in Hollywood. People like him aren't an outlier, they are a symptom of a broader problem.

@elizabethbeatty2372

Ай бұрын

Not only is he not an outlier, he's almost the expectation.

@marioex497

Ай бұрын

That’s kind of his whole point. Yes Dan is terrible because of what he did, but hundreds of Dans exist and the environment of those around them prevent real backlash or systemic change

@eatatjoes6751

Ай бұрын

@@marioex497 He’s so much the expectation that anyone who actually worked in the industry like Kayla Says and John Fountain have to fight off accusations of always being miserable or helping contribute to the problem.

@Sugarman96

Ай бұрын

He's only the exception in the sense that he's such a recognizable name and face, that's what makes him so easy to focus on

@quack9pm

Ай бұрын

Please watch bojack horseman, everyone who agrees with this comment and is interested in this specific topic

I think maybe people NEED the sexual assault rumors to be true because that’s realistically the only way he’d get any prison time or actual punishment. It’s still not right to spread rumors and say things are true when there’s no proof though. I completely agree with and appreciate the way you presented this information, thank you for your integrity. 😊

my friend group in school was mainly girls and we had teachers who did not sexually assault any female students (as far as we know, at least.) but consistently showed improper conduct. the emotional abuse and the crossing of boundaries and sexualisation of minors hits home - my friends changed their outfits to be less revealing for their classes, asked for other (often male) students to accompany them when interacting with said teachers, being treated as lesser or targeted in mistreatment, being ogled at and looked at when the teachers made improper sexual comments about the teaching material. and with this I can absolutely attest that it doesn't have to be sexual assault to leave scars and make kids feel unsafe and uncomfortable years after. these teachers never touched my friends but their behaviour stuck with them. all these things need to be judged, punished and prohibited from happening. our school failed these girls just as the network failed these child actors and actresses. absolutely disgusting.

I'm glad you did address Drake Bell's own allegations. There's room for both Drake to be a victim as well as for those he's harmed

@cheekyhazelnut

Ай бұрын

Hurt people, hurt people.

@queencyrys6309

Ай бұрын

@@cheekyhazelnuti do t think that’s an appropriate thing here, as it shifts the blame for the Abuse Bell did onto His abuser.

@corvuscolbrand

Ай бұрын

​​@@queencyrys6309 Bell didn't actually do anything however. The girl lied about her age, after finding out her real age he immediately cut contact with the girl and ended up pleading guilty to endangerment. Nothing of substance ever happened. Yes it was reckless of him to not make sure the girl was of age when they began messaging but to call him and abuser is going a bit too far. He's someone who should have known better, but he didn't abuse anyone and took responsibility for his actions. I urge anyone to actually look up the court proceedings and the evidence and what he plead guilty to, because he did not groom the girl in question, there's nothing to substantiate that, and saying that directly contradicts the evidence There was no evidence on either his or her phone of sexual messages. There was no evidence on his or her phone of illicit pictures from either party. There was no evidence on his or her phone of him participating in any type of relationship, even a platonic one. There was significant evidence of her stalling him online and at shows. There was no evidence of Bell ever calling her "hot" or encouraging her to send photos on either his or her phone. There was no evidence supporting any of her claims. What bell pleaded guilty to was endangerment for not doing his part to ensure this girl was telling the truth. Hence the charge for endangerment. Again to call him and abuser is going far and beyond all actual evidence we have, which all supports the contrary that he never did anything to this girl whatsoever beyond exchanging friendly messages until he found out her age at which point he cut contact and blocked her while she continued to stalk him

@samuelrichards5521

Ай бұрын

​@@cheekyhazelnut I've always preferred: make people cry, make people cry. But your's includes the ones who don't want to give you to satisfaction.

@PrincessNinja007

Ай бұрын

​@@cheekyhazelnut In cases like this it actually takes education and effort NOT to repeat the abuse, because you've got someone who has NO idea what appropriate boundaries are. I know some kids I grew up who had trouble with touching people because they'd been told over and over that it's not sexual or inappropriate to touch people like that, it's just a normal thing that normal people do. If one victim complains it's them saying "this is uncomfortable" against all of the grownups saying "if you're uncomfortable you're overreacting and being hysterical"

"We were demonstrating. A bunch of people in uniforms were rioting." Whatever else may or may not be true, that's based right there.

@sarafontanini7051

Ай бұрын

cause we must always remember: the police were always never on people's side. they were always the bad guys.

@mikeymullins5305

Ай бұрын

That was perhaps the best line, and I will be way more conscious of what I'm calling a riot now.

@lemonscented7703

Ай бұрын

a lot of the dialogue in those clips seemed really smart let alone for an old sitcom about high school kids

@tegantalks9612

Ай бұрын

@@lemonscented7703maybe because they had competent writers who they weren’t forcing to share a salary or forcing them to put super inappropriate humour into the script.

@kitkatbreaker1270

Ай бұрын

Based on what?

So here’s some fun trivia: When the 2012 version of TMNT was set to release there was a bit of controversy with the show because the voice actor for Leonardo, Jason Biggs made parents worried and Nickelodeon skeptical about having him on the show. Jason Biggs is known for staring in some inappropriate films not intended for children. Around the early development of the shows third season and possibly the late development of the shows second season, Nickelodeon decided to replace Jason Biggs. Keep in mind Jason did nothing wrong to have Nickelodeon replace him. He may have made some offensive jokes on Twitter, but he apologized for offending anyone and even deleted the posts. Yet Nickelodeon was perfectly fine with keeping Dan Schneider who’s been very abusive and creepy around the people he worked with including the young actors, and have then do some questionable things on the show like pouring ketchup on someone’s feet or have them wear some skimpy clothing.

I'd like to summarize my main takeaways from this video: - just because someone's actions aren't outright illegal or SA, that doesn't make them not wrong and it doesn't mean they _have_ to be for them to be condemned. - Dan Schneider is just one of many examples of what's wrong with the film industry as a whole, and because of his infamous bad behaviour he has become a scapegoat for it. - the entire institution revolving around child stars and actors is fucked! it's inherently exploitative and abusive! and we shouldn't just blame 1 messed up guy because of it.

@bluebaron6858

Ай бұрын

How does it get Fixed?

Quinton has one of the weirdest timings in the KZread Reviewing Space, and we gotta love him for it.

@vitaminwater9662

Ай бұрын

Yeah im totally sure it was coincidence

@cort1237

Ай бұрын

⁠@@vitaminwater9662this has been the planned finale for the “miniseries” for like two years now.

@Manakuuchiha

Ай бұрын

It would be like if a Lost reboot was announced before Billiam finished his series

@Planag7

Ай бұрын

No

@undo2redogacha852

Ай бұрын

I mean it's a 2 hour video. Very possible that he started writing it before this. The scripting alone likely took a while on top of the research. ​@vitaminwater9662

“28” Me: Huh that’s an uncomfortable amount of feet jokes to appear in Icarly - “28 episodes” Me: Wait. 28 episodes have feet jokes?! That’s insane- “28 episodes out of 97 did NOT have feet jokes” I’m sorry… WHAAATTT???

1:08:37 I'm just glad they didn't shorten it to SCAT Saturday (or SCATurday for that matter) too 😅

I remember my dad (he’s a producer) telling me a few years ago that he’s heard bad things about working for Dan Schneider through other people. What’s insane about this is that he works in neither tv or live action, which means Schneider was so bad to work with that you could hear about it from the other side of the industry.

@emberjean4230

Ай бұрын

What kind of producer exactly?

@maccamachine

Ай бұрын

@@emberjean4230poop producer

@Planag7

Ай бұрын

Been that way since the 90s. Hell in the 30s, people were hiring male prostitutes that reminded them of Jackie Cooper. "Nothing changes. Cause it's all the same...!!!"

@nikkichavez8418

Ай бұрын

Yeah what kind of producer?

@stanen

Ай бұрын

​@@emberjean4230probably porn

"It's not illegal but it's wrong." Perfect way to describe it. No notes.

@soulsecrets7930

Ай бұрын

Legality v morality

@soulsecrets7930

Ай бұрын

@@ville__ not really

@RezValla

Ай бұрын

Lawful but awful

Let me just tell you how much I appreciate your content, especially your honesty & your way of being direct instead of making it all harmless/ just factual or exaggerating in making it more interesting. You were pointing everything out that is important & what is important? THE GODDAMN TRUTH. Thank you.

The best and most comprehensive video on this topic. You’re not alone in how you feel about this stuff. You pretty much articulated how I feel about this stuff in the perfect way. I wasn’t sure how this vid was gonna shake out, but it’s exceptional.

I remember how angry I got a few months back when that tweet about "that one lazy youtuber who just spends his days describing iCarly-episodes" went viral. Because there's someone on KZread who sat down and went about the monumental task of analyzing the entirety of the NSU, not only aired episodes but also the forgotten side stuff like games and merchandise, going through hundreds of hours of footage and BTS-conent, taking a closer look at a huge part of millions of people's childhood, all the while also somehow managing to make it entertaining and funny, only for some random guy on twitter to call him "lazy" and "unimaginative" I truly believe you've made something special here, something you can be insanely proud of. A multi-hour mini-series of which I've enjoyed every second of, and ending it with a poignant note on not only the topic's creator, but also the wider atmosphere an time context it all took place in, ending it in an important message. This has been a wild ride, an I'm so happy that I got to be on it.

@keyofallworlds7549

Ай бұрын

Wait who said that? o-0

@MyDancingShoes

Ай бұрын

The take from twitter that his last video about Sam & Cat was "weird" really annoyed me! Quinton's approach, insights, and humor are insanely valuable and worthwhile. Some of the best content on youtube.

@LittleMissLounge

Ай бұрын

That person must've watched some other videos because they sure as hell were not Quinton's.

@syahmikadira6832

Ай бұрын

Yup, I think i remembered the same tweet I saw which again doesn't make that much sense considering the other additional stuff that were being said/added like you mentioned but some of those people are also the people who complained about those long intermissions deviating from talking about the show so like do they want Quinton to just read the wiki for the shows plot or what at that point. That tweet also irked me because it decided to talk about how this whole "mini-series" is pointless on the video which ended with talking about Jennette McCurdy & her book which, while I had heard some bits of it in the past, did not know about it releasing & was not really able to fully contextualised on all of it until it was being talked on that video.

@crypticcorvid

Ай бұрын

Fr, Quinton is literally doing straight-up archival work, taking into account the culture of the time, and also reviewing merch and games in full. Pop-culture/niche topic archivists need to get more kudos.

I really hope people don’t interpret this as “Dan wasn’t that bad, actually.”

@mothmads

Ай бұрын

they'd have to be stupid to

@milodoesntknow2090

Ай бұрын

​@@mothmads alot of people like to intentionally misinterpret things just to get mad. its like quinton said in the video, people are bound to clip bits and pieces just to get annoyed

@smartichoke

Ай бұрын

this is exactly why conflating speculations to what he actually did is so dangerous. The common suggestions that he did more dastardly things than what can be factually found will undermine the actual crimes he is guilty of in comparison. So people will shrug and go, "well it could have been a LOT worse." When in fact his leadership had very real consequences on the lives of people in the industry and he should have been fired long ago. He is one of many who exploit their employees and creates the toxic environment of show business. Children were and still are sexualized. Child stars were and are being taken advantage of and abused and manipulated. Like Quinton said, making Dan the scapegoat for all of it lets people sleep easy at night thinking there is no more work to be done.

@jadenbryant9283

Ай бұрын

@@smartichoke I mean yeah a bit of the work is done but there's a hella of a lot more to get done and it won't be done for a long period of time

@wesleyhunt7599

Ай бұрын

The way I see it is, "Dan was bad, but not for the reasons you think."

my guy so excited for this vid currently rewatching the entire "mini" series to watch it. Thank you as always for the company you have been keeping me 2 to 3 years now. lots of love

I think the perspective of both seeing Shneider's very real involvement in his own creations, and pointing out that the problem is bigger than him, and talking about it in a greyscale instead of black and white, was much needed. Thank you for all the thought you put into this video

using a slowed down piano version of Filthy Franks Dan Schneider song chorus was such a fucking power move cause that song has been stuck in my head since i finished quiet on set

@QuintonReviews

Ай бұрын

you're the first person I've seen ever figure out what that is

@jordancantrell6598

Ай бұрын

@@QuintonReviews Ah yes, the old lore.

@EddieSparxx

Ай бұрын

@@jordancantrell6598The ancient texts…

@Lycaon1765

Ай бұрын

Ah fuck I must've missed it smh

@That-Lo-Life

Ай бұрын

Literally popped in here to mention this

Spencer being a self-insert immediately made sense to me, and the knee-jerk reaction of saying that can't be true because they love Spencer so much misses the obvious point that most people would make their self-insert loveable. Dan Schneider, for all his faults, knows how to write loveable characters. Why wouldn't he write a self-insert as such? He wants to be close to those kids, to be both a friend, a fellow cool kid, and a dependable adult figure. To be fun to be around, someone they trust, someone they can talk to like a close friend but also respect the authority of. And so, he makes Spencer exactly that. But the key difference is, for the most part, it's appropriate for Spencer to be that figure to Carly, because he's her brother and her guardian. For Dan, however, his actors are his employees, they're under his responsibility in a fundamentally different way, and that makes it very inappropriate for him to be either a friend or a substitute parent. Dan cannot write himself into reality. He cannot write his actors and his crew to accept and forgive his actions at the end of the episode. He cannot make things work out like they do in his shows.

@milouu_1194

Ай бұрын

W take

@CageBlack1443

Ай бұрын

WAIT WHAT. (Sorry, I didn't watch the vid yet and went to the comments first) SPENCER IS DAN SCHNEIDER'S SELF INSERT?! Spencer's my second favorite character after Sam (who kind of became my favorite because I've grown very sympathetic towards Jennette) because of how lovable he is. Now I'm being told he's the self-insert of one of my least favorite people on the planet. I need to watch an iCarly episode later to confirm that I now hate Spencer. Probably gonna fail because... it's Spencer.

@EmissaryofWind

Ай бұрын

@@CageBlack1443 It's not confirmed, it's just Quinton's take and I happen to agree with it. But your response kind of goes along my point: Spencer being Dan's self insert doesn't mean Spencer is Dan. Spencer didn't mistreat and harass female crew members. Spencer didn't get inappropriately close with underage actors. Spencer didn't force crew to work insane hours. Spencer didn't make minors act out fetishy scenarios. Dan Schneider isn't bad because of some fundamental traits, Dan Schneider is bad because he did bad things to a bunch of people. You can love Spencer and hate Dan.

@CageBlack1443

Ай бұрын

@@EmissaryofWind Phew! (I really don't want to hate Spencer)

I really appreciate this video. I've never come across this channel before, but I've come across a lot of Dan Schneider commentary on TikTok recently. The people whom I saw spreading Scheider commentary were obviously so dumb and so sensationalist that I almost came to doubt that Schneider was culpable at all. Thanks to this video, I feel like I understand exactly what he is and is not culpable for. Honest journalistic content like this is just so important to me and to many others. Thank you.

Fantastic video! Came almost straight from the documentary to this. Haven't seen your videos before and as a first time viewer I absolutely applaud your down to earth-ness and your level of nuance. Stellar work!

My middle daughter was offered an audition once for one of these shows and I wouldn't even allow her to go. She was so angry with me, but I couldn't remember a single child star who didn't end up trading their childhood for a job only to have their lives fall apart in adulthood.

@Howlzffffdd

Ай бұрын

Bless you for that, your child holding a grudge for this is a small price to pay for their safety. One day they will understand why you said no and be thankful

@direkeshinro

Ай бұрын

you are such a good parent for that. I hope she appreciates how you protected her.

@Young4eva121

Ай бұрын

When she starts to be smarter she will thank you. I always listen to my parents when it comes to them protecting me, because they have my best interests. You’re such a good wonderful parent and an amazing human. ❤

@devincetee5335

Ай бұрын

The only exception I can think of was Shirley Temple, and she became a politician as an adult.

@savannahm9943

Ай бұрын

@@devincetee5335😂😂😂 Shirley Temple was also reportedly subjected to abuse.

another thing i noticed a lot in zoey 101 was the subtle jokes about unhealthy eating habits, and how the girls were always dieting and avoiding sugary foods to stay skinny in the show at like literally 14 years old...cant even imagine the ideas that put into children's heads its so scary and upsetting

@ducky19991

Ай бұрын

Very true but this was also EVERYWHERE and inescapable in the early 00s, it’s not just that show but the entire culture

@harper9246

Ай бұрын

@@ducky19991 im definitely aware of that but it was still pretty extreme for a kids show at the time and I don't think other shows geared toward those younger audiences were as explicit in their references. i mean like he says in the video zoey 101 was more risque than the usual teen programs of the time and I think it definitely played into the normalization of diet culture in young teens

@atomknight8361

Ай бұрын

Diet trends were huge and everywhere in pop culture during that time

@-chloe-8728

Ай бұрын

i remember a scene making fun of a teacher (characterized as fat despite being a size 10-12 at MOST) for having “fatty” salad dressing. it made me terrified of fat in food and made me want to diet at 10 years old. it’s crazy how the media and messages you internalize as a child stick with you and mold your mind.

@K-MasterGirl

Ай бұрын

Yea I had to stop rewatching it because of that.

I appreciate the integrity in this. There’s enough on the record that paints the picture without having to speculate or muddy the waters with conspiracy. It hurts the arguments and the cause and the truth of those who went through this. So… good work.

I watched this whole video all til the end. I enjoyed this so much more than “quiet on set” feeling more expanded, raw and reel