Thanks for watching guys! When researching Crib Goch most videos were from confident outdoors men so it was hard to match yourself against them. Hopefully this is relatable to the more average fit person who have no idea what level their fear of heights is 😂. If we had seen a video like this before we went then maybe we wouldn’t have tried it 🤔. But you never know unless you try aye! 100% would go back and summit Snowdon again. 10/10 day out!

@MiniMattTV

Жыл бұрын

Well done for not getting stuck stuck and turning back. Pyg track still looks a great option

@thejughead138

7 ай бұрын

Hi Abby & Graz, you were brave to attempt Crib Goch and absolutely made the decision to turn back! I have just started hiking in the lake District with a friend this summer...it wad glorious! i intend to hike striding edge next summer and i respectfully suggest that the both of you start there! Striding Edge is not as intense as Crib Goch! Love & respect guys.

Fair play, because you still had a very long way to go and crib goch is an intensely exposed ridge that goes on for about a mile. If that first bit was too much for you then you made the right call.

@AbbyandGaz

9 ай бұрын

Yeah looking back it was defo the right decision!! That’s a crazy climb 🫢

To be fair as a local fell runner who goes over Crib Goch half a dozen times a year, I'd take one look at you both and say you're don't have the necessary experience to attempt a route like Crib Goch, you have to build up your experience level guys, and if necessary even hire a guide to help you get into scrambling, the guy did the right thing, the second you feel fear you have to turn around instantly if it's still safe to do so, turning around is a huge win in that situation, I must have been over Crib Goch 50 times and I've witnessed 4 rescues. I'd say before anyone even attempts the easiest of scrambles make sure you've done plenty of hill walking on just normal well marked mountain paths, being in the mountains as much as possible builds confidence and experience levels, then you take the next steps as you feel confident to do so, your clothing gives away your inexperience, ditch all cotton layers including socks and replace with wool and fast wicking fabrics, fleece and down.

@B2GXX

4 ай бұрын

You really don’t have to build up to it like that, it all depends on general outdoors experience and comfort. Crib was the first hike / scramble I ever did and have done it several times since. But, I do have 10 years of white water kayaking experience. I understand risk, decision making and generally how to handle any exposed outdoor situation. I don’t really agree with trying to scare people off, it’s better to paint a clear picture of what the route entails and let someone decide if they have it in them or need more experience to build up. Nothing wrong with jumping in the deep end if you’ve got the mindset

@markjones127

3 ай бұрын

@@B2GXX You were obviously outdoorsy which makes a massive difference, you have to admit the guy in the video just looked out of his depth, I first went over Crib Goch when I was 6 and thought nothing of it, it's an easy grade 1 route if you're born with the confidence to do it, but I just got the feeling the guy especially would find it all a lot easier taking the slow and steady route to gaining experience, which there's nothing wrong with, we're not all born mountain goats.

@toke7560

3 ай бұрын

We aren't all the same. Some people like wing flying, others fishing. If a person is afraid of heights, thats it game over. Me i'm afraid of heights. Its in me , nothing i can do. Same for other people. Their talents may lie in something the NOT AFRAID OF HEIGHTS types are afraid of.

@montybrewster7

3 ай бұрын

@markjones127 Your advice sounds spot on to me & i think you're a fool if you want to argue with locals you have crossed it many times. Watching on youtube will do for me personally though, ha haa.

@ludwigwittgenstein2422

2 ай бұрын

Utter nonsense

Thank you for sharing this, please don’t feel bad, you gave an honest response and it was useful for those of us considering attempting it who haven’t before. Doesn’t matter how you got there, you got there, that’s a great achievement. 🙂

What glorious weather for climbing Snowdon !! Tremendous views! Great vlog and informative. Thanks Abby & Gaz.

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve! Glad you enjoyed it

You did the right thing, Gaz. I'm with you guys on this. I do a lot of hiking, but there is no way I'd go up that way. It is better to air on the side of caution. I'd hate to think of you as a casualty. There would be not much left of you if you went over that edge. Kudos for giving it a go, but props for going back. You definitely don't want to be cragfast. Thank you for showing us the hike, warts, and all. I'm with you, Gaz. I'd have been stuck there, too. It is certainly better to be safe than sorry. I'm glad you turned around. Thanks again for sharing.

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Looking back now it 100% was the right decision. We had no idea of how many casualties there are up there a tear ether otherwise we wouldn’t have even tried! Glad you enjoyed the video Chris ☺️

@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling

Жыл бұрын

@AbbyandGaz I worked at RCC Edinburgh at Pitreavie Castle (Rescue Coordination Centre) for 4 years. We coordinated all rescues 5230N and above on land and sea controlling Nimrods, Helecopters, and MRTs (Mountain Rescue Teams). It was very busy in my day (you are going back a bit too) and as more people take to the outdoors it has become busier. Weekends we could have 2 or 3 rescues going on across the country or at sea at any one time. Sadly, the place is closed and passed from Royal Air Force control to civilian. I've been out on a couple of rescue missions on a visit to the Helecopter Teams at RAF Leuchars and RNAS Prestwich. It was fun being up there and seeing the views, but I'm glad I was never on the end that needed it. I'm glad they have our backs, and you don't have to pay to be rescued, unlike the States. Looking forward to your next adventure.

Nice hike, and remember, you haven't failed, but gained new knowledge of what doesn't work. nice hike to the summit, and great views. Thank you for sharing and wishing you a marvellous day.

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Thank you ☺️ glad you enjoyed it!!

Loved your 'Crib Goch' moment you two- Many years ago i had one also, along with my sister and brother-in-law - we had done a lot of walking in Derbyshire Wales and the Peak District but one look along the Crib Goch ridge and we thought 'nah'... you did the right thing you two and far from failing you were brilliant, and well humoured about it too = good on yah!

@AbbyandGaz

10 ай бұрын

Haha thanks David ☺️

Hi guys ! Great video😊 you did so well ! We can’t wait to go back and try this. You did the right thing though. We almost turned around when we did the CMD route at Ben Nevis! We are looking forward to watching more of your videos. Chelsea and Mike

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Chelsea and Mike! Glad you liked the video ☺️

I've done Crib Goch several times, it is not somewhere for anybody who is unsure of heights. Once you are on the ridge, its difficult to get of. If you want to try something scrambley but feels safer, why not try Moel Siabod. The last time I stayed at Pen Y Pass youth hostel, parking was free! It was first come first parked back in them days

Really enjoyed this one, think it should be compulsory viewing for anyone attempting a hike out of their comfort zone! Well done guy's your best Vid to date, ATB Steve

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Steve ☺️

Great video. Remember going camping with school and we walked up Snowdon one day. After we got to the top, our teachers wanted to get to a pub at the bottom before it closed. So we were told to make our own way back down and meet them there. I think it was called 'character building'. Those were the days!

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Haha omg no way! Imagine doing that now, no way would that be allowed. 😂 They had the right idea haha. Thanks for watching Ian

@ranbirsingh7666

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

"Nothing to be embarrassed about"😉 Great video. I've walked up Snowden 3x but wouldn't attempt Crib Goch either.

@AbbyandGaz

Ай бұрын

Haaha yeah looking back it was defo the right call!!

Amazing video, so positive 🔥:-) I enjoyed watching :-) And LOL when u said "We are experienced for Crib Goch we've done Kinder Scout" 🤣🤣🤣

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂 so naive haha thanks for watching ☺️

@olehhastov996

Жыл бұрын

​@@AbbyandGaz you made a right decision! It's smart ☺Every year people even die on Crib Goch :(

I would of quit it myself mate! 🤣 Gnarly walk that is, no shame pal.

Best vlog so far. Scenery fantastic…. Both very brave 😅

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Anita xx

I did the full horseshoe when I was quite young. We were in the clouds for the entire ridge walk so neversaw the drop. Definitly right decision to turn back if not confident, not sure I could do it if could see the full drop.

@AbbyandGaz

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Stephen!

Best to be responsible and safe! Always another day !. I’ve turned back plenty of times that route included! I have done it since in perfect weather. Took the time to build up to it on the Watkins path and Tryfan . You need a good feel for the mountains and confidence in your ability

Brilliant vid! I’m with you on heights 😂 I’ve watched a number of walks along the ridge and fair play to everyone who manages it!

@AbbyandGaz

3 ай бұрын

Yeah it looks terrifying doesn’t it 😂

Well played! If you abort before you've gone too far, you have another day to try it. I'm glad you've posted this, the "GoPro effect" is real and often makes people think all of this is easier than it is.. leading to more mountain rescue efforts because people have gone too far to turn back (for their own ability)/ injured in the process. Keep it in the books and tick off some less exposed scrambles, you'll nail it another time 💪🏻

@AbbyandGaz

3 ай бұрын

Yeah totally agree! That’s why we included our failure in this video as there’s not many videos out there showing people attempting and turning back. People should document that more so others can weigh their abilities up against it. Thanks for your comment and support ☺️🙌🏻

@Cowley33

2 ай бұрын

@@AbbyandGaz I was up there today and some idiot had brought their dog… it’s not a failure man! Learning curve ✌🏻 I don’t know if you’ve seen the tryfan Adam and Eve jump? My friends did it a couple of months back and I opted out. I just completed that last night, upload crib when you do get it! It’s even more interesting for people to watch you overcome fears and progress.

A great decision with turning back on Crib Goch. If you're ever back that way I'd recommend climbing up via Watkins Path as the start has waterfalls and pools

@AbbyandGaz

6 ай бұрын

Thanks David ☺️

@toke7560

3 ай бұрын

The Watkins path is a long hard slog. Probably the hardest. But very pretty.

Respect to you guys trying. There’s no way I would go that way. We just done llanbaris path and that’s enough

What an epic series of decisions, haha. You defo give each other the right balance. I feel I'd want to take on the tough ascent too. 😅

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Haha thank you ☺️☺️

congratulations on your sanity. For navigation in the mountains, I recommend the LocusMap application. I walked this trail two weeks ago thanks to this application and the track uploaded to the watch. Regards

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Nice thank you!

I say well done to you both. It was a shrewd decision not to press on when it got sketchy resulting in you having a great day out rather than a nightmare. And a 20k hike to the summit & back is nothing to be sneezed at. Great effort guys & an enjoyable vid.

@AbbyandGaz

3 ай бұрын

Thank you ☺️ really appreciate this comment!

A good honest video. The extortionate car parking fees are more frightening than crib goch, I went weak at the knees at the point.

@AbbyandGaz

6 ай бұрын

Haha we have to agree with you there!!

Fair play mate you made it up crib goch further than I would have got. You made the sensible decision, know your limits better to be safe than sorry

@AbbyandGaz

10 ай бұрын

Cheers mate! Not for the faint hearted 😂

I did crib three years ago, i got to a similar place you did and i froze up! Unfortunately for me my cousin wasn't as supportive 😂 he pushed me on but to be honest was the best thing ever, once your on the ridge it isnt as bad but well done guys!

You made the right call if you were scared at that point - It doesnt get any easier. Many people who aren't as decisive as you and have paid the price. Good stuff!

@AbbyandGaz

3 ай бұрын

Thank you ☺️ in hindsight we made the right decision

Great video. 👍

@AbbyandGaz

10 ай бұрын

Thank you ☺️

It was smarter and braver of you to make the decision not to continue, than to continue and potentially put yourself or someone else at risk. Well done to you and I hope you managed a different route. I know exactly how you felt because I've been there.

@AbbyandGaz

2 ай бұрын

Thanks Steve!

Lol me and my Pal did the pyg track, absolutely shattered at snowdon summit and decided to go cribgoch on way back oml solid.

You probably have courage in a different way. You had the strength and courage to show the world your fears. Well done.

@AbbyandGaz

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Dan ☺️

Climbing is not for everyone. When i got to the top of Snowdon i did a wee in my pants. I was lying down and looking over the edge. Be brave and say no to carrying on!!! Great video guys.

@AbbyandGaz

6 ай бұрын

Good god yeah I definitely couldn’t have done it then!!

when gaz said im not quieing to take a picture that is so me 🤣🤣

@AbbyandGaz

2 ай бұрын

😂😂 we never que haha

Crib Goch is a great walk....you'll go back and complete it one day.

Great job, looks tough in places. Son annoying these places are so busy now and you can't enjoy the solitude and peace a bit more on famous walks. Hey ho, more people in the world, more crowds

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Thank for watching! It was bound to be busy on a bank holiday tbf 😂

Thats not a fail, thats a win, its only a fail if your decision was the stupid one, yours was the perfect decision, great video, just came across your channel and just subbed, just set up my own channel as im just getting into the world of hiking and thought its a great way to keep a video diary

@AbbyandGaz

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support ☺️ agreed, looking back now it was very silly to even attempt it!

You made me laugh when you said were quite experienced we've done Kinder Scout 😂. Bit different!

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

😂😂 tallest peak in the Peak District isn’t it

@StevesDogTraining1

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that got me to lol, Kinder Scout is nothing compared to Snowdon, I would be looking at your clothing too get some base layers it all makes for a more pleasant hike. It was a good thing you turned back at least you showed respect for the mountain, if you are near the Peak District there are plenty of Grade 1 scrambles that will give you experience and maybe you could try it again, grade 1 is the easiest scramble.

@leeroy1050

Жыл бұрын

Ive climbed crowden clough up kinder scout! I think that prepared me for this 😂

@toke7560

3 ай бұрын

@@AbbyandGaz Still not the same. Crib coch IS fearsome. Its a whole different ball game.

You hadn’t even got to the ridge… which is properly scary. Definitely made the right decision there. I (completely inexperienced climber) got dragged up there by my experienced brother in law 20 odd years back. I eventually froze a third of a way along the ridge and we had to escape down the side. Longest day in my life and was convinced I was going to die the whole time. You did the smart thing turning back early and salvaged the day.

@AbbyandGaz

Ай бұрын

I god I couldn’t have imaged how bad that must have been. So glad we made the right choice

Didn't think I was scared of heights until I did crib goch. Weather came in whilst on the ridge, but by then it was too late to do anything other than keep going. Very slowly and bloody terrified. Running into dead ends and dynamic reaches/jumps is not something I'll do again. Proud of myself? Maybe a little but generally more wanting to give myself a slap cause I got to a bit higher than you were and thought I'm only going to get more scared here, but ushed on as weather was nice at that point. Good decision on your part.

@AbbyandGaz

5 ай бұрын

Wow that sounds terrifying!! Well done though.

Just done this in 40mph winds and rain all day, in the clouds. Absolutely no joke to be messed with.

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Bloody hell!! Well done 😱

@user-ec7oe1bl8y

Жыл бұрын

@@AbbyandGaz thank you, mostly just happy to be alive though

I strolled this clockwise Y Lliwedd, Snowden summit, Crib Goch. It was exhilarating but easy.....Bill

I'm panicking now, I'm gona lose my job 😅

You made the right decision on Cryb Goch - despite almost ideal conditions. This is an ascent and ridge that really, you need to do with a bit of proper scrambling experience behind you first. From what i could tell, you were not prepared for it and were looking for video content. I would recommend others thinking of doing this try this as a build up first from a mountaineering POV tick these off (One at a time of course) : From Ogwen: Y-Garn, Pen Y Ole Wen, Siabod (from Capel Curig) , Tryfan then maybe once youve done Tryfan maybe at least a couple of times, THEN do Cryb Goch. Ive seen too many times people trying Cryb Goch because they watched a youtube video. Next thing you know theres a helicopter rescuing people off the ridge...Be sensible.

@B2GXX

4 ай бұрын

Crib was the first scramble I ever did. I think you absolutely have to be aware of your confidence levels and general outdoor ability but you don’t have to build up to it. You either can or can’t manage it

I remember when I was 13, I went up Crib Goch like a mountain goat, found it super easy. Tried doing it 8 years later when I was 21, and had to turn back because it was just too hairy. Found it way too dangerous, not sure 13 year old me had great self preservation skills. 😂

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Haha god no way! You have no fear when your that age do you!! 😂

I love the "we've done Kinder Scout" comment before hitting Crib Goch 😂

@AbbyandGaz

Ай бұрын

😂 big realisation they are not on par haha

Sorry for the pedantic correction, but, the car park is called Pen y pass, which translates to Head of the pass. The road goes through the Llanberis pass.

Me and my mate turned up and did Crib Goch, in February, no experience, ice and snow, one of the biggest mistakes of my life lmao

@AbbyandGaz

2 ай бұрын

God that sounds terrible. I hope it went ok

I enjoyed watching that, no shame in bailing out, I've done in on other routes and I'm a seasoned mountaineer. I've done Crib Goch maybe 20+ times but I still remember the first time when I got lost in the fog on the way up ;-). Can't believe how busy the summit was, I was up there two days ago and I was the only one up there - I just put up a video with some nice drone shots, check it out if you wish. Subbed.

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

20+ times that’s wild!! Thanks for subscribing ☺️

You are so funny, guys :)

@AbbyandGaz

9 ай бұрын

Haha thank you!

It's fine having one bag as long as you both take turns carrying it. I wonder if they did?

At least they had the savvy to turn back I think the problem now with walkers they see videos on KZread and think they can do it!!! And budget outdoor shops selling gear that doesn't work and up to the job!!! I did the grib years ago with all the right gear in case of and knowledge Along with ML training and hill and Moreland qualified I still see people in the mountains with jeans and trainer's!!! Well done for knowing your limits 😊

@AbbyandGaz

7 ай бұрын

Thanks Mark ☺️

@marknugent7716

7 ай бұрын

Very welcome 🙂

I've done it twice. Second time I was going through depression so I was feeling suicidal and done speedrun.😂 At one point you start to feel urge to turn around but don't do it - it's easier to just finish it. It's not that hard if you ignore the height.

Living to attempt it another day is a win.

@AbbyandGaz

3 ай бұрын

☺️🙌🏻

You did the right thing if you weren't feeling it at the time. I will say at the point you stopped it looked like you took a slightly harder route up to the ridge. I've seen many people get themselves into trouble traversing too far around on either side heading up to the top and landing themselves in more grade 2/3 terrain. If you fancie giving it a go agin guided id be happy to 👍🏻

@AbbyandGaz

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! We are no longer in the UK but will be sure to let you know if we brave it again ☺️

First time on a mountain I was taken up that route in shoes jeans sports jacket 1960 low cloud very windy crawled all the ridge it was terrifying I was 16

@AbbyandGaz

8 ай бұрын

That’s so brave 😂

Best thing if you are not confident don't do it, good call. I've done twice but only because I had confidence in myself to do it.

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Yes agreed! Not for the faint heated so decent you did it!!

@thedroningoflife

Жыл бұрын

@@AbbyandGaz I just watched loads of videos and went with correct gear and a few friends. 2 went back down because his girlfriend got scared, correct thing to do, they carried on to Snowdon and met up on way back. If you try again try go with someone who's done it and they can coach you, having a confident person may help. Hope you get to try again.

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

@@thedroningoflife thanks for the tips ☺️☺️

There’s a point of no return when climbing crib goch..basically it’s safer to go across than to climb down. You’re lucky you didn’t get there 😃😂

what happened with car park? we parked in Lanberris and found a £80 fine for us when we returned even though we thought we had bought a ticket. We were very upset. Thought the car park owners were running a scam. You pay with card and out comes a piece of paper looking like a ticket which you put in your windscreen, only to find later it says your pyament was void and this is not a parking ticket. not the kind of thing you think to read carefully at the start of a hike

@AbbyandGaz

10 ай бұрын

Oh gosh yes it is such a nightmare! We paid £40 or something silly just to park there until 8am in the morning and then moved it again to the town 🥲 they need to sort it out really!!

@osianpiercy8841

8 ай бұрын

You can avoid all of these problems by leaving the cars out of the national park, and enjoy Eryri from the Sherpa buses

I am always looking for the most insane hikes possible and Crib Goch is an entry level walk for me. I would only bother with Crib Goch if there is more to it like ice or as part of a one of the horseshoes. I can only do those things because I have the right equipment, experience and fitness. Well done for trying and well done even more for turning around. I’ve seen too many gibbering wrecks at the top. It would have taken everything you had in that state to get across with that cotton T-shirt and that huge backpack. The ridge is the easy part. There is more serious scrambling later on. You wouldn’t have enjoyed it.

@AbbyandGaz

2 ай бұрын

Wow good for you! Happy we turned back ☺️

If you didn’t like the climb up to Crib Goch you would have hated the ridge. It is an epic route though for those with a head for heights.

@AbbyandGaz

6 ай бұрын

Yes was probably for the best!!

Most important skill for any mountaineer is knowing when to turn back, and it's a lot easier said than done!

@AbbyandGaz

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

By US standards is more than grade 1 rock scramble, maybe bottom part is scramble, last pitch could be 3-4 grade . Surprised no Helmut, not even back up rock and some some gear to put in some gear and anchor

@Kim-J312

9 ай бұрын

And Rope !!

@AbbyandGaz

9 ай бұрын

I know it’s crazy isn’t it!!

The main thing about this video is you got off Crib Goch safe, A very foolish thing to attempt with no previous experience, The warning signs were there for a reason, A did see a video showing walkers climbing An Teallach as their first climb so you aren't the only mad ones! I would gradually build up your confidence on easier hills, The ones with huge drops can be terrifying to a novice, I suffered big fear on Liathach in the Highlands despite many mountains under my belt! Good luck with future mountain adventures! Mark.

It’s ok 👍 I’ve turned around from 800 metres The wall at crib goch, I turned around an looked down that’s when it kicked in, I’m scared of heights, Only me & god know how I got back down, It’s easy but really difficult for me

@AbbyandGaz

8 ай бұрын

Wow so brave to even get that far though!

Love your channel I can’t wait to do this one I’ve sub to the channel aswell

Hostias cuánta gente

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

It was a busy weekend 😂

You didn't even make the ridge...

Can totally understand why you turned back... It gets a lot worse once you reach the pinnacles just after the knife edge...... I've only done it once and swore never again.... Still get a buzz thinking about it though... Will mirror a previous poster with Watkins path its the hardest of all the classic routes and by far the best near the top..... I'd describe it as Pyg on steroids.... and you can go for a dip in the waterfall on the way down..

Never heard of Penny Pass.

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

Have you not?

@philliphughes8521

Жыл бұрын

@@AbbyandGaz My subtle hint that it's called Pen Y Pass

@pauledwards499

7 ай бұрын

@@philliphughes8521 Ever heard of Bell End?

Its great you want to go back and not put off. Defo invest in better gear, particuarly more appropriate materials. Get some practice before trying Crib again, ignore whoever said "how will we know if we dont try", they are right to a degree but people dont just wake up and acheive greatness, theres still some practice, some understanding under their belts.

Like literally how many times can she say literally ?

@AbbyandGaz

6 ай бұрын

This is true 😂

18 quid for peny pas not 40

@AbbyandGaz

Жыл бұрын

40 in peak season I’m afraid

Come on guys , I'm a double below knee amputee and I can do it.

Poor bloke is carrying gear for the both of them lol. Your confidence in your climbing will take a knock with that bag bouncing around on your back. The weight needs to be closer to your body & strapped tight.

@AbbyandGaz

5 ай бұрын

Yeah we realised that when trekking 😂 we were no prepared

What a fanny 😂😂😂😂

rule of thumb always carry your own survival pack..how selfish is she ..lets push on ..of course dear i,m carrying all the gear ffs ..ditch her mate ..

Literally no preparation. Literally no research, literally no clue. Did I say literally enough?

@AbbyandGaz

Ай бұрын

We weren’t the first and we won’t be the last. Agreed though that preparation is key

People like you put unnecessary strain on the Mountain Rescue Team here in Eryri. You both knew you didn’t have the ability or confidence to attempt Crib Goch.

@adamthomasphotography

8 ай бұрын

But well done for realising you’re out of depth and turning back, lot don’t.

I get your pain.My wife (whos a maraton runner)and i did the "ordinary"route up and down in 2hrs 40 mins.We thought we could do anything.We tried the same as you and failed the same as you.ho hum.

@AbbyandGaz

6 ай бұрын

Wow yes, it’s not about fitness but more about mental strength with that route!

@scottstuart6716

6 ай бұрын

@@AbbyandGaz yes running up and actually having to climb and make decisions that your unsure of is a different skill and mindset.

@scottstuart6716

6 ай бұрын

@@AbbyandGaz Forgot to say we are hoping to attempt it with a guide.