Truly one of the hardest Disaster Campaigns to overcome.

@gothia1715

7 ай бұрын

🤣

@asherwoodrow7471

7 ай бұрын

not even the legend “jew of total war” of total war himself could save it

@alexbernard6220

7 ай бұрын

​@@asherwoodrow7471wtf lol

@itsokiie

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely Amazing comment

@asherwoodrow7471

7 ай бұрын

@@alexbernard6220 he called himself the jew of total war in one of his disaster battle/campaigns, forgot which one

"Most of us are 35 year old manchilds" Amen, my brothers.

@thesuperginge1348

7 ай бұрын

Hey.... be reasonable... I'm 34

@Ztygs

7 ай бұрын

I take offense to that! I'll have you know I'm a 36 year old manchild, thank you very much!

@tobydorman3998

7 ай бұрын

Is his audience really that old? I’m 25

@maltheri9833

7 ай бұрын

22 but watched total war as a kid on KZread. Ans the dudes playing it were already in their 20s and that was like 2011-2012. Those guys are in their 30s now off that alone not to mention the original shogun and rome

@Ztygs

7 ай бұрын

@@finitatem You're one to talk, lmao.

I need a CA "we're sorry" tier list please

@IceniTotalWar

7 ай бұрын

Very short list and all F's 🤣🤣

@ifgodwasapig

7 ай бұрын

We're sorwy 🥺

@shalax7881

7 ай бұрын

At least they aren't pearl clutching

I’m from Bulgaria, Sofia and work in the IT field, so I have friends that worked on Pharaoh, and I just feel so bad for those guys. It’s like….the entire dev team knew they were shipping a game that would be dead on arrival, but they couldn’t do anything about it. Management had the final say 😢

@peterk2735

7 ай бұрын

PS. They had to put in extra hours, but got 0 bonuses, cause it was a commercial flop…

@TheBaralinChannel

7 ай бұрын

That sounds about right. I worked in game dev. We could put our heart and soul into a game, even if we know its a bad game, but it doesn't matter to the shitters ontop. It's a really rotten industry, I don't recommend it to anyone these days. Quit and working freelance these days.

@peterk2735

7 ай бұрын

@@TheBaralinChannel Game development was a dream for me too, modded a lot of games as a kid…but once I saw what it paid, the crunch, the stress…nahhhh thanks, web development is what I went for 👍😉

@TheBaralinChannel

7 ай бұрын

@@peterk2735 100% the right choice mate. The only times game dev is worth it is indie companies and freelance. Saves you most of the stress. Feel bad for CA Sofia, they most definitely tried to polish a turd. Not really their fault when somebody asks them to turn a 15$ DLC into a 60$ game =/

@merlin4084

7 ай бұрын

The statement reads, to me at least, that they are going to finish what they are working on now, release it to the public and then just abandon the game to its fate, like they did to Thrones and Troy. It makes no sense to continue work on a dead game. So, hopefully the team will be put onto a decent project where CA actually attempt to give the community what they actually want and not what they think they can sell to the community. That studio has to be one of the most demoralized by this point. They've made two games, one a commercial success (due solely to the Epic deal) but a critical flop, and the second being an unmitigated commercial and critical disaster despite all of their hard work.

I think it's a nicely written note. But I'm not going to sing CA's praises until those changes come into effect and once they actually maintain their new attitude after the heat dies down. EDIT: After reading Legend's community post where he brought up similar drama that happened back around Rome 2 (which I didn't know about because I wasn't really following CA/TW-related news as close as I am right now), I've reconsidered my stance. I'm not going to assume any 'good intentions' until they actually make good on those promises and maintain good practices. They got me, I admit. They suckered me in and made me drop my guard.

@rawpotatofella9654

7 ай бұрын

Respectfully disagree. It’s riddled with emotional blackmail. Until they demonstrate change I won’t be giving a cent to CA.

@TheMissing8

7 ай бұрын

I commented on Great Book of Grudges' response to this with a similar sentiment to what you said here and somebody had already responded to me defending CA.

@wile123456

7 ай бұрын

Changes only happens once the leadership is changed. These people are responsible for millions of dollars wasted on hyenas and pharaoh, incompetence should be properly punished. They fire hundreds of low level workers, but the incompetent leadership responsible for endless failure don't get any punishment. It's unjust.

@Rafalskimi

7 ай бұрын

@@rawpotatofella9654 Maybe I'm being a little bit too naive, but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt (again, I'm probably being too naive about this given what happened in the past few months) and assume that it was written with good intentions and that the emotional blackmail wasn't intentional. That's what I'm going to assume for now. If there is improvement and they stick to those sentiments and actually improve after all this barrage of drama, then I'm going to give them big thumbs up and I think everyone will be happy and benefit from the "new and improved" CA. If not, then we'll all know that they were just full of shit (again) and this was just another attempt at damage control before things fully get out of control.

@Jakster840

7 ай бұрын

They need to fix their damn engine and tech debt until they start selling anything, imo.

The good: they acknowledge their mistakes The bad: the latest games

@TheArtemys13

7 ай бұрын

It's funny how i was giving the same answer, than noticed we've the same profile picture too :'D "Salute the Aces of Razgriz!"

@nvelsen1975

7 ай бұрын

Uh, I'm forced to disagree there. I'd much rather CA join a line of developers who didn't get into drama and then come out going 'It's fixed' or 'Here's our latest, top quality, low price'. For an example look at No Man's Sky. False start if ever there was, now it's a solid good game because the developer, especially the owner, didn't get into the drama and. just. fixed. it. I can't play an apology and I don't like paying for a bad game and an apology. If I wanted to pay for apologies I'd hire an actor. I can play a fixed or good new game.

@judgedread9724

7 ай бұрын

They haven't truly acknowledged anything out of good faith. It's taken considerable community backlash and a sizable dent in their profits for them to actually start acknowledging anything the community has been saying for YEARS. As someone else in this post has said, I sure as hell can't play an apology either.

@MrKugelsicher90

7 ай бұрын

They only acknowledge because of total failure of sales they dont give a fuck about our opionions. If they still do enough money.

@FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC

7 ай бұрын

Prepare for the worst

Being a total war fan is like being in a toxic relationship

@IceniTotalWar

7 ай бұрын

Toxic CA .

@misterpinkandyellow74

7 ай бұрын

They are pay pigs

@jessicalacasse6205

7 ай бұрын

try gameworkshop...

@hatenuke1

7 ай бұрын

still 100000000times better than shitty trash like respawn/blizzard tho

@rbarnes4076

7 ай бұрын

Things are never as bad as children put them. Nor are they ever as good as children put them. CA is not the devil. They are just a normal company run by normal people which means they make their share of mistakes. The toxicity I've seen is from the community, not CA. And they have that base covered very well indeed. 60+ year old Total War fan from the original Shogun Total War. CA has had their ups and downs for sure.. but this is not ANY type of justification for calling them names and hurling insults. If you don't like them, just move on and stop clogging the internet with stupidity.

If you read between the lines: - Thrones of Decay was supposed to be in the scale of Shadows of Change - the price remains the same but now they are panicking and packing in extra content

@Diego000793

7 ай бұрын

- 25$ usd is the new standard for WH3 DLC now. - If they ever make a new race expansion, they may ask for 35-40 usd now. - If Thrones of Decay doesn't do well, WH3 probably won't have a future and that will be the end. - They are super lucky that this DLC is about the Empire and everyone is super thirsty for new empire content.

@ErrorGameManiac

7 ай бұрын

like you increase price by like 150% but give 0 extra quanity in dlc. At least from now one if they care dlc should be around 110% more than any other.

@pain002

7 ай бұрын

@@Diego000793this is so frustrating. It’s like when Disney decided drawn animation wasn’t profitable and just abandoned it. Ca will just release a Bad dlc, overprice it and be like “well people are tired of wh3”

@LuzikArbuzik77

7 ай бұрын

​@@Diego000793 well, they did gave us a roadmap with at least one more DLC down the line, it is their golden goose despite all the issues and controversy, and maybe they have some deal with Games Workshop to follow on that front. I am not very trusting in CA right now by any means, but I wouldn't say axing WH3 is an actual possibility they consider. I mean, it's not like Pharaoh is gonna cover the failure of Warhammer lol. They are going to put more work into WH in my opinion.

@AlexanderTheGoodEnough

7 ай бұрын

yep. exactly my take away. we'll see in February what this "extra content" will look like for Shadows of Change, will just keep playing cyberpunk in the meantime.

I'm still convinced the only thing they are really sorry about is the lost revenue. It's a fine letter and a step in the right direction but talk is cheap, just as the Total War leadership team taught us themselves.

@KroM234

7 ай бұрын

Exactly! I'm not buying into this "this time we'll really change for real!!!!" thing...

@JeffCaplan313

7 ай бұрын

Indeed...talk is cheap, but if actions follow then 👏

@FifinatorKlon

7 ай бұрын

In an age of ChatGPT it takes more than a letter in corporate speech that is probably AI made to convince me.

@smolpp2516

7 ай бұрын

to be honest the time it took them to come up with a chat gtp answer shows that they arent really honest about it

@Axymoon

7 ай бұрын

To be fair it's a clear indicator for us, the players that we can move the whole company if we just stop spending money on their product. It's not the worst case scenario IF (and it's a really really big IF) they go to the right direction after this. The end result should be the same if they aren't stupid, which is fine by me. As long as i get good game idc if the executives swim in yachts.

Honestly was expecting it to be the south park we're sorry

Thank you Legend, I am not a native speaker of English and watching your channel recently I have learned a lot of new words that help in my daily communications like "piss in the wind" and "see through your bullshit". Thank you!

@Guaguadeath

7 ай бұрын

Lol if only he could call CA a bunch of cunts on KZread I'm sure he would 😂

@IcyyKing-ur6pn

7 ай бұрын

Based

@Saladin.from.Athelloren

7 ай бұрын

I learned English from legend too thank you Sansei Legend😅😂

@patrickkelly6691

7 ай бұрын

Not English -Orrstralian Mate 😄

@AleksandrPolygaev

7 ай бұрын

@@patrickkelly6691 oi

The battle against CA leadership is like a legendary campaign on its own

"We make games to bring you joy, inspire a love of history, of fantasy and strategy games." This might be true of the engineers and artists. It is *not* true of senior leadership, who have the same goal as every other for-profit corporation: "We make games to make as much money as possible from you."

@MEGABUMSTENCH

7 ай бұрын

the opening of this message is so insincere is wild

@rbarnes4076

7 ай бұрын

Please name a company who's senior leadership does NOT want to make loads of money. Your statement is completely obvious and only serves as a non-sequitur.

@parduetheholyman

7 ай бұрын

Agreed. I have no doubt that the artists and engineers are sincere in trying to entertain/create a good gaming experience, but I think Pharoah is just another example of art mingling with the worst aspects of business. Games are treated like assembly line products and rushed out without regard for the players satisfaction or the well-being of employees, but with the intention of being just good enough to turn a quick profit in time for the next scheduled project. Art ain't like other products or services: each project takes time, passion, meticulous care, a well put together and managed creative team, along with a host of other things going its way in order to get something worth-while, but unfortunately that costs a lot of money and time, both of which are things businesspeople like to pretend they don't have.

@Icetea-2000

7 ай бұрын

Oh right, the poor virtuous artists and engineers that aren’t tempted by such worldly desires like the holy mary! I hate people like you, they’re not any different, everyone wants to make money

@BrothaMan831

7 ай бұрын

True but isn’t that the goal of every company?

"We are sorry that our decisions have harmed our image so much that we are bleeding money, please start consuming again."

@caileanfindlytearle6936

7 ай бұрын

Pretty good summary.

@Medik_0001

7 ай бұрын

Welcome to literally every corporate PR statement ever

@TheSuperappelflap

7 ай бұрын

A problem isnt a problem until it becomes a PR problem.

"We're sorry...we got caught"

@patrickkelly6691

7 ай бұрын

Just like the 'caught cheating' partner vids - lol

One of your best videos when it comes to community issues. Very well done.

14:55 holy f*ck that was poignant. youre absolutely right that the biggest indicator for them fearing for their beloved profits is the existence of the statement itself. these kind of corpo statements NEVER get made unless there was a massive failure. if Pharao was a commercial sucess, we wouldnt even be having this exchange....

@sokar_rostau

7 ай бұрын

I can't put my finger on it but something is really off about Pharaoh. I'm a massive Ancient Egypt nerd that's been playing TW for over 20 years. The number of Ancient Egypt games are few and ones that are even half-decent are very far between, so I should have been among the first to pre-order. I should be sitting here stroking my giant phallus with one hand while slaughtering Hittites for the glory of the Aten with the other but somehow this game has completely failed to get me interested. That's a Ptah-Sokar-Osiris joke btw, and the travesty of being left out is not the reason. I AM EXACTLY THE TARGET MARKET FOR THIS GAME. So why do I have so little interest in it? That's the real question I think CA should be asking themselves. If they can't even get Ancient Egypt nerds excited for a TW set in Ancient Egypt, is it really any surprise that sales were so low?

I dont care if they are sorry, I just want them to make a good game

@Gentleman_Dan

7 ай бұрын

Could not agree more.

@honeybadger6275

7 ай бұрын

They are only sorry they got caught. Corporations treat consumer goodwill as an asset like everything else, once they feel they have built up enough of it they will go back to doing all the shady crap as usual and continue in a cycle like that until the corporation ceases to exist.

@discipleofdagon8195

7 ай бұрын

@@honeybadger6275 Contrary to what you may think, a large portion of us don't want CA to fail. Also I can think of several corporations that have an entire business model based on consumer goodwill and great customer service. From experience, Noctua and Corsair have had some of the greatest post-sales support I've ever had in my life, walking me through step-by-step processes in how to install certain computer parts as a first-time PC builder.

@NathanCassidy721

7 ай бұрын

That is the best apology they can do right now. They can say whatever they want but it means nothing if the games don’t improve.

@Hollow_Theorist

7 ай бұрын

@@honeybadger6275🙌🙌

How many times has this company gone through this cycle? Its insane.

@MidlifeCrisisJoe

7 ай бұрын

Someone needs to compile all the times CA has said "we're sorry" and edit into that episode of South Park where the guy from BP keeps repeating "sorry" for spilling oil on baby seals.

@jobogriff1209

7 ай бұрын

The Wheel turns once more..

@TheSuperappelflap

7 ай бұрын

@@MidlifeCrisisJoe yeah that instantly popped into my head as well

@dzezuz8300

7 ай бұрын

Wait really ? Im kinda new to total war, what were the reasons for the other apologies?

@dawn4383

7 ай бұрын

tbf i think this is the only time they've actually taken good steps after an apology.

Creative assembly is litterally going through the 5 stages of grief

Whether you praised or opposed Pharaoh. It's not hard to predict it's future based on how well it did financially.

@albertotejedorgauna

7 ай бұрын

it could still have a future

@ozisponas1593

7 ай бұрын

@@albertotejedorgauna lmao no

@albertotejedorgauna

7 ай бұрын

if they develop it more towards some kind of total war: bronze age and with some small reworks, for example making battles better and including some other unit types.

@Anonymous-ld7je

7 ай бұрын

All 11 fan boys who praised it? Even if you don't think it's awful, you're objectively wrong if you think it's anywhere near as good as peak historical total war games. Those days are long past.

@wile123456

7 ай бұрын

And the leadership responsible for wasting money and firing so many people aren't punished and are still employed despite being the most deserving.

Damage control mode letter. I have a feeling Sega stepped in and forced them to refund to save face and issue an apology. Don't forget how they tried to blackmail players into buying the latest TWW 3 DLC. If it doesn't sell well they will drop support for the game. Their true face has been revealed a long time ago and shouldn't be forgiven easily, they need to show they are listening and improving.

@user-ds8rj2vc4v

7 ай бұрын

I mean, they removed the Dynasty edition of Pharaoh, clearly indicating they're dropping it. I already bought the Dynasty edition though, so how do I get a refund if I didn't buy it through Steam? Or am I just screwed? In their way to "make it better", they will have yet again screwed many people over.

@LuzikArbuzik77

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-ds8rj2vc4v not defending CA, but if you bought the Dynasty Edition for Pharaoh, you should also blame yourself for a shortsighted decision lol. No offense

@user-ds8rj2vc4v

7 ай бұрын

@@LuzikArbuzik77 No I shouldn't. If you buy a product and don't receive it, that's not on you. Whether you agree with someone buying or not is fine - but it's on CA and CA alone to deliver the product they promised.

@maestro_nik

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-ds8rj2vc4vHere's the rub, even if I knew what to do to help you I would not. This should teach a lesson. Your mistake should come with consequences. That mistake was putting money on things that don't exist yet, like buying futures in the stock market and watching as your prediction failed. Can't refund out of that hole you dug yourself. Preordering, buying deluxe editions on promises and wishes, paying for blood. It's feeding this toxic corporate gaming culture that we live in now. The fact that you are a drop in the ocean of many that do this depresses my core foundations and honestly it should be publicly shamed.

@user-ds8rj2vc4v

7 ай бұрын

@@maestro_nik Actually you can, it's called a chargeback. Or in the case of Credit Cards it's a section 75. There's nothing wrong with preordering editions on promises. I bought Baldur's Gate 3 in early access. If I hadn't, then the game wouldn't have received the funding to become one of the best games of all time. Your idiotic sense of pride of this is your own cross to carry, it is not anyone elses. Your core foundation is utterly flawed, illogical and lacks comprehension.

I feel Legend so hard at this point bc of how many times CA has apologized and then fucked over the community

They are NOT sorry. Corpo are never sorry. (we live in cyberpunk)

"Hey total war community, we tried to abandon you for a broader audience but that blew up in our face. So we wanted to let you guys know that were coming back to support products we put on life support in hopes that youll give us money again. Hope theres no bad feelings and you memory hole this past year."

@ExInfamous

7 ай бұрын

I mean hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Hopefully they fix their games and dlcs aren’t half the price of the game. Preparing not to buy another Total War title ever again.

@freedomandguns3231

7 ай бұрын

​@@ExInfamous sometimes I go to comment and find someone said what I wanted to say, but WAAAAAY better than how I would have said it. This is one of those times

@zonkrt3463

7 ай бұрын

I mean if you'd prefer they just pull the plug on the stuff that's good that's your prerogative I guess.

@chad2643

7 ай бұрын

@zonkrt3463 I mean if you want to suck off a company that tried to milk you for a few extra bucks one final time before they abandon total war then that's your prerogative I guess

@aris.a2912

7 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

This reminds me of this weird guy in South Park apologizing for his company opening a rift for Cthulhu

@billdehappy1

7 ай бұрын

Now youre the wierd sorry guy insted

Thank you for this video, LOTW. I was taken aback this morning by how much support people were throwing at CA for this disingenuous apology. The Pharaoh refunds is a commendable step, but they have a LONG way to go to earn their redemption arc.

I basically feel like Tzeench just walked up to Sigmar and said "hey, sorry. You're right, I'm wrong. I want to fight on the good team now. Here's some greater demons and blue horrors. Um.... stay tuned for more plans to help."

"It's alright Krillin... if he's sorry.. then there's nothing we can do." - Goku to Krillin about Vegeta DBZA

@MrDeflador

7 ай бұрын

Well in the end he was right - after Vegeta let Cell archive his final form. And let Boo awaken, which lead to the death of everyone except Mr. Satan (and his dog), Goku, Dende and the great Kaioshin. Let us hope CA will not destroy the earth before the actually change for the better.

@MundaneThingsBackwards

7 ай бұрын

@@MrDeflador 😂

@lolasdm6959

7 ай бұрын

"Emperor, Wellington has marched his army to Waterloo, and he said sorry." "There is nothing we can do"

@TheRedeemed117

7 ай бұрын

He killed all of our friends!

@jamesdavis9273

7 ай бұрын

Cut to Krillin screaming and blowing up I know that wasnt Vegeta but it was funny in my head 😂

"We are sorry that our actions led to less revenue, please give us more of your money"

Actions speak louder than words

@Killer-vi4ih

4 ай бұрын

They are sorry they got caught.

When I see "Total war is our everything", I can but think "Give them nothing, but take from them everything"

I scanned a lot of this bc it's basic "we're sorry, we'll do better" but then got to how they're going to add value to SoC and delaying ToD to do the same and these seem like really great steps in the right direction. I guess we'll see how well they can follow through.

@discipleofdagon8195

7 ай бұрын

I was also glad to see their parent company (Say-guh) encourage them to refocus on the strategy game side of things and repair customer relations. Hopefully we'll be seeing a second wind for the TW series as a whole now that CA is working on what it's best at.

@bigquazz3955

7 ай бұрын

Their choice to "add value" to shadows of change rather than reduce the price tells me everything I need to know about this letter... they're throwing out cheap talk hoping to get a few more dlc sales by promising new features.

@Jeremy-gy7me

7 ай бұрын

@@bigquazz3955 It isn't a good idea in general to reduce the price after the fact. People who bought early just feel cheated and demand refunds and people who are thinking about buying hold off because they think the price might drop further. Adding value is almost always the way to go.

@williampounds5191

7 ай бұрын

Except they are reducing the price of Pharaoh so they are willing to do that. Your idea doesn't hold a lot of water. @@bigquazz3955

@spartan117407

7 ай бұрын

@@bigquazz3955 i much prefer having 2 new lord and 4 news unit than getting 10$ refund to be fair

As someone who only plays TotalWar games every once in a great while, Legend is 100% of my news. I hope you continue to put out honest reviews and I hope CA can get their stuff together and even start working with you again.

They’re bullshitting because they’re losing money. That’s all.

Their words are worthless. 😂

Thank you for being the voice of blunt painful truth, you are truly a legend.

If good management is put in place and they truly stick to their word, we should hopefully see great things for the future of both historic and fantasy Total War

@dioniscaraus6124

7 ай бұрын

That's the hard part

@vicdansanch

7 ай бұрын

How many times will people say this shit lmao , they wont change until they lose so much money sega fires them

@andregon4366

7 ай бұрын

That's a big if.

@Lukashoffmann94

7 ай бұрын

Rob is still listed in this Message under their leadership. Good leadership looks different.

@damianwozniak3798

7 ай бұрын

If u to young, and dont know game like CENTURION: Defender of Rome (1990) AMIGA. U should play and say what was change in Total War series about 30 years. 🤣

"I'm sorry you feel that way" yeah, they can f off.

Thanks legend, you are our guy! Thank you so much for speaking for us honestly!

Actions speak louder than words, but words are a good start.

Oh, the joy it brings me to pay for blood DLC in games with focus on warfare, indeed, what a lovely apology letter. They even offer free update to dlc, if you buy it! I feel safely as a baby tucked under a truck with this apology letter.

Thank you Legend! I listened to a few other early reactions to this statement and I thought they went incredibly easy on CA and didn't pick up on any of the clear bs scattered throughout it.

I am really grateful that there are prominent people out there who call out corporations like this for their bullshit and their utter disregard for the quality of the products they have pushed out lately. I truly think that people like you make the community a lot better. Thank you Legend!

@olafgurke4699

7 ай бұрын

Completely besides the point, but I appreciate your picture. The Impreza is my fav car of all time, lol.

@mihai-soringhergu2647

7 ай бұрын

@@olafgurke4699 you have great taste :)

LegendofTotalWar here, with a Saving your Disaster Campaign! Glad to see them at least trying to right this shipshow they steered themselves into.

A small battle has been won but not the war. Keep it on peeps!

@lordrevan571

7 ай бұрын

No it has not, this is the same thing they did in Warhammer 2.

I appreciate your unfiltered candor. Keep up the good work.

Why is robs name on that letter? Wtf? If he is involved I don't trust a word.

Writing an apology letter is easy. Actions speak louder than words. Let's see them put their money were their mouth is.

@GideonGleeful95

7 ай бұрын

The partial refunds for Pharaoh are already in place, so that's good at least. Though overall, I agree.

@El_Cattivo1988

7 ай бұрын

20 Euro Refund is the first Action.

@shykorustotora

7 ай бұрын

The fact they are the ones who pointed out words are cheap and we'll only buy their BS after seeing it in action goes to show, this is pretty much their last shot. I'm confident they won't f it up this time... because if they do, they're done. Bankruptcy in less than 12 months and that's the last thing a profit driven businessman wants

@carlonduty7270

7 ай бұрын

If its easy why did they fuck up the first shadows of change apology so bad?

@andregon4366

7 ай бұрын

@@carlonduty7270 Because that wasn't an apology.

Props as always, Legend. Love hearing your perspective on things because I know you'll say things for what they really are. Fingers crossed CA finally actually does their damn job and brings Warhammer (and if by some miracle, Pharaoh too) to where they should have been if they hadn't been so blatantly incompetent (not including the devs themselves. They deserve tons of love for what the company they're working at puts them through).

I'd love to hear what the CEO reasoning behind the scenes. CA had a really good thing - loyal fanbase with a great community - and they are *this* close to losing it. Last chance saloon, they gotta pull out all the stops

@justinokraski3796

7 ай бұрын

Probably got consulted by McKinsey group and told to do the bare minimum to cut costs and maintain a majority of revenue

@illegalopinions4082

7 ай бұрын

We went past the last chance saloon when they ditched the fambase for Total War garbage. Stop trying to give them more chances. They don't deserve them. Let them actually make a good game before even considering forgiveness.

@reppinthaturf2012

7 ай бұрын

I think the issue is SEGA. I only think this because of what happened over at Relic with company of heroes 3. Pretty much same story with similar circumstances. SEGA must be pushing for releases with short dev time and maximum profit

@TheSuperappelflap

7 ай бұрын

@@justinokraski3796 lol

@Coerciveutopian

7 ай бұрын

That's capitalism!

I have listened to all and I agree with you. Using the emotions of the community and making excuses for their mistakes is terrible. Thumbs up to your work.

You legend and all community ! You sholud be proud what You achieved ! That is Your job and all the other KZreadrs ! Thank You ! You are a Legend for all time

Get in legend, very well spoken about all the bullshit price rises. Especially when its not just with creative assembley but almost every company is pumping out crap for high prices

massive respect for having a spine and speaking out like this. I couldn't agree more with you.

“Our men are running from the battlefield”

This is a letter to investors and not us. Their stock probably started plummeting so to try save face and stop the drop this was put out. One can hope that what they saying is true but that is the way it looks. All those heads suddenly scared for their jobs but probably next thing will be lots of firing and it will be the little guys that will pay not the big shots even though its the talent that ultimately makes the game work

Pharaoh feels like a campaign pack instead of a game. If they had made bronze age total war and then sold Troy and Pharaoh as campaign packs, I'd be much more interested.

Anybody can say anything they want. Politicians do it all the time. If they can back it up with actions then I will change my mind about CA. Until then, guilty until proven innocent.

I'd pay full price for the Dicks of Slaanesh DLC we probably shouldn't give them ideas

Never underestimate what creative assembly have learned from their games diplomacy features🤣

@Shane2020xxx

7 ай бұрын

Might as well accept a large cash payment from someone you’re about to vassalize anyway?

@marsultor6131

7 ай бұрын

It’s really like the RTW diplomacy: accept or we attack, please don’t attack.

5:28 That's what pisses me off the most. The immature/condescending response towards people as if they are not allowed to act out in anger as if it is beneath them is the most asinine thing imaginable. 5:39 hit the nail on the head, the attitude of don't react and it will be okay is mental. I honestly feel a lot of people cannot handle people raising their voice let alone saying a few hurty words in an angry term and so they completely ignore a service and only listen to so called "positive-vibes" in their own bubble - leading to increased delusion. This doesn't only go for games, but for a generation as a whole.

@The_Caledonian

7 ай бұрын

I guess my overarching point was that is do not suppress anger. It is a completely normal emotion and the rational reaction is to question why individuals are angry, not to condescend, ignore, and ostracize them. This plays hand in hand with criticism.

@coomr419

7 ай бұрын

Definitely gaslighting their customers

@TheArtemys13

7 ай бұрын

A very good analysis, and i totally share it.

@rbarnes4076

7 ай бұрын

Getting angry at games is a sign of immaturity. That is the alpha and omega on the entire subject. Anyone that thinks otherwise is part of the problem, not the solution. Games are for entertainment.. everyone is going to experience media they don't like.. the only answer is if you don't like it, simply move on. As my father so aptly put years back, HOW you deliver criticism is MORE important than the criticism itself. Act angrily and folks won't listen, pure and simple. If you don't know this at this point, you're lost. I applaud Creative Assembly for keeping that part under control. Anger expressed on forum boards should NEVER be tolerated. EVER.

@The_Caledonian

7 ай бұрын

​@@rbarnes4076 Are you more fearful of the angry individual or the person who pretends to be above the rest for the sake of moral superiority? I will re-iterate, anger is a completely normal emotion and expression. Those who state otherwise are immature themselves because they have suppressed it to the point they are lying to themselves or they had cases in their life where they could never properly vent their frustration - leading to outbursts of toddler behaviour.

as much as there are more factions i want to see, they need to focus on fixing the bugs and bringing the game back up to the state it was at for TW:W2 before they do anymore DLCs. the fact that we need to GET BACK to that state of polish at all is really telling on how bad things are for them. then we can have a discussion on the price of future dlc's. we need to see good faith efforts and dedicated teams.

I have to say, as a part of Total war community, i`m lucky that there is someone who can express same thoughts and feelings as mine to other members of that comunity, thanks for that Legend

I say don't let up. The moment you look away, all the motivation to do better by their consumers vanishes and they go right back to degrading quality and screwing over their consumers. Don't start calling victory or handing out praise until we see tangible results.

You may have had to bite the bullet with the partnership programme, but there's a reason we all don't follow the channels that are sycophants for CA. if I wanted to listen to CA marketing, I'd go to their channel. Your tone and attitude is part of what makes you successful,vi wouldn't back away from that. Thanks for all you do

@damianwozniak3798

7 ай бұрын

If u to young, and dont know game like CENTURION: Defender of Rome (1990) AMIGA. U should play and say what was change in Total War series about 30 years. 🤣Centurion have all what Total War have + gladiator fight's, chariots races, and fleet battles. And it was on 2 FDD - 1,5 Megabyte od data. 😆Well maybe there was no champions. All the rest is the same for 30 years. 😂

@jamesmonroe9464

7 ай бұрын

​@damianwozniak3798 Why are you going around and commenting this everywhere? We just care about TW here

@damianwozniak3798

7 ай бұрын

@@jamesmonroe9464 So do I. But aftere 20 years when it bacame worst and worst. I dont say the did everything wrong but aftere 30 years counting from Centurion and dozen of games its rathere crap. I have 600 h in my last TW Warhammer 1 and i like it but should be bettere game. And im just using logic and creator not at all maybe the didnt repeat mistakes in latest game's i donno but rly 20 years and its still $^&*&*((&^%#@.

Something that really bugs me that I haven't seen anyone address is that most of the factions in the Warhammer Total War series have unique warhorns that sound when you issue orders or when units rout or rally, *EXCEPT THE WARHAMMER III FACTIONS* . It's actually my biggest gripe about Warhammer 3 and not that big of a deal to implement. _Where are the unique Warhorns Creative Assembly?!_

@MrStoltverd

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. These little things add SO MUCH. I'm still waiting for CA to reimplement dynamic pre battle speeches. They would be SO GOOOD for WH

The "Emotional Blackmail" is usually called gaslighting.

Good that they acknowledge that they made mistakes, now we just need to see if it is the same mistakes as what the community saw. I still haven't bought Shadows of Change, and probably won't until I see the changes they're going to make to it. Far as I'm concerned, they still have to rebuild our trust in them, and that means actually going through with the things they promise here.

Life lessons with Legend. When you apologize, make it clear that you know what you are apologizing for. Explicitly state it and then explicitly state what you did wrong. If all you say is "I'm sorry it won't happen again" it will be a lot less impactful

Greetings from Ru, what you and Volound are doing is very helpful, thank you for this work, we are following you and will support you as much as possible, because this crap stamping has to end.

Well, they say the first step to change is to acknowledge your mistakes. But actions will speak louder than words and we will need to hold them accountable for what will happen next

I think that this is FINALLY a step in the right direction. Emphasis on the STEP. It remains to be seen if they actually change or do anything they say in this post.

Having a good influencer management team is so Important... CA should take a page from Paradox' book here

@Hamsammich111

7 ай бұрын

Lets not tell CA about Paradox's book.

@loonybean7177

7 ай бұрын

HoI4 king is here PogChamp

@kieranwalsh2058

7 ай бұрын

Fancy seeing you here, other disaster campaign man

@slimdiddyd

7 ай бұрын

No they shouldn’t. Paraslop is even worse

@Bitt3rSteel

7 ай бұрын

​@@slimdiddydI'm talking about their creator contacta.

Hopefully this is us hitting the low point. Only up from here based on what you covered.

We see the confusion... they have not learnt their lesson, we are not confused we are just rightly pissed off.

I see his comments about Pharaoh as them signalling that they are going to abandon it after they release the campaign update as apparently a lot of what they'll need to do it is already in the game files. It just has to be activated. So this likely is not a lot of extra work to complete. He was very wishy-washy on other specifics and the game only be getting some periodic updates which, to me, sounds like they are putting the game on life support, much like Thrones and Troy (if a bug is found they'll fix it, and nothing more). It only has 100 more players than their previous Saga games, and even with the price decrease, I don't see them improving that player count. So, they'll finish the work they've been working on now and then they'll just abandon it. The game is dead. No reason to waste any more good money on a bad investment.

@cossackinthesack9110

7 ай бұрын

Yeah thats the only logical reason for removing the premium editions is cause they have 0 intention to make more content than necessary

Imperial Wisdom of the Day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

@ravager990

7 ай бұрын

The rewards of tolerance are treachery and betrayal.

@Shane2020xxx

7 ай бұрын

“An open mind is a fortress, with its gates unlocked and unbarred.”

Just LinkedIn-stalked Mike Simpson, and he has indeed left the company this month: "I'm just stepping out to take a sabbatical, digesting my time at CA to distil out what is worth sharing."

Big fan of your honesty, frankness and openness. Stay harsh as you put it. Love your content and analysis of total war gaming. Thanks for breaking down the statement and providing your insightful context. Ive given up on total war and CA myself, hoping that paradox will bring some tactical battle elements to upcoming games to fill the gap left by CA.

Thanks Legend for talking true, always. How it translates "Ok, we fucked up, but this time I SWEAR it will be different baby!"

it is amazing it took them this long to say SORRY. I still don't trust them until they let go of people who should go.

"We'reeee Sorry. Weeee'reeee sorrrryyee"

Thank you for being our voice

If games have ever taught me anything, it would be: “Do not be sorry… Be better.”

@TheSuperappelflap

7 ай бұрын

Saying sorry costs 0 dollars. Making a better game costs money.

We don’t want more drama. We don’t want more emotion. We want Medieval 3

@KuroNoTenno

7 ай бұрын

Shogun 3 as well.

@ZZuluZ

7 ай бұрын

And Napoleon/Empire 3 !

Can always count on the Legend Red Pill, to stay on the up and up.

Like you said they need to do actions. And not just this time, keep doing the right thing without having to learn this lesson again

Thank you for your insights here I gave me a far greater understanding of the process with the influencers. I appreciate you called out the emotional blackmail. I t still feels like they are trying to pull the wool over their player base. I have had an awful lot of fun with this series and probably buy a med 3 or empire 2 game when they are reduced but beyond this think I am done with CA which is hard to say given the fun it has given me in the past. I would love paradox to pick up the mantle (I doubt that is an option but believe they could and would do a far better job) Good luck to you and all the content creators. I hope the devs that lost their jobs find a better employer !

I tried Old World mod after all the talking about it on stream today and OMG Albion is a Thunder Dome of Pain on Legendary!! You need to give it a go Legend

That started so 'marketing department' that I was surprised at the actual decent actions later in the post. Hope CA comes through for us!

All we want is Medieval 3: gritty, bloody, variety, deep systems, intuitive siege battles. We’ve all been asking for over 10 years now. I have zero faith that they can accomplish this anymore.

@peterk2735

7 ай бұрын

Rome TW and Med 2 are games I’ve sunk thousands of hours into. The gap between them is monumental, but since Med 2, I’ve hardly seen any leaps forward. The fact that you can boot up a Med 2 campaign and it plays pretty much like a WH3 campaign is not a good sign

@johnlocke4715

7 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@peterk2735Absolutely, friend. There’s zero innovation and I love TWW2 (I haven’t bought 3), but it feels shallow at a certain point. I loved everything about 3 Kingdoms except the battles (corny and arcade-like imo). I could list hundreds of things I want in M3 but immersive siege battles: various large and small castles with rivers, drawbridges, portcullis, murder holes, realistic archers that aren’t bugged, options to poison water or burn crops. I just want more than what they’re willing to give.

Not everything said is said 100% right but from what have been told us so far this answer seems righter. I'm nothing but a casual total war fan. I have tried all types of total wars and multiple strategies. Thus I can say strategies especially recently have problems with giving us a product that is both fairly priced and enjoyable in long term. Although what CA has done had completely went even beyond that. Hopefully what they promised will be executed with care and their promises fulfilled. I hope their next new total war will actually bring back the joy and setting we players are looking for. I hope one day we will receive Total War Ages, a whole combination of all historical games in one, maybe, maybe one day.

Fair enough to give us this wordy bit and a peak behind the curtain a bit to see what direction MIGHT change, but honestly after watching you play three kingdoms id love for them to say they would consider working on it again, not even promise just say its something they might do. Suddenly stopping the game long before it (historically) makes sense to just seems like its more of the culture they are claiming to want to fix or work on. As many have said before me, well wait and see if they actually follow through.

The first thing I did when I got the bottom of this post, was copy and paste them all the names in a notepad document and saved it. So I if I ever see those again, I know to run the other way. Thank you, CA. Now that's the transparence I like to see.

37:50-38:10 As Mr. John Basil Barnhill once formulated: "Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty."

@Garrett2101

7 ай бұрын

It's a video game. It's not that serious. This is cringe

@micahvalentine4878

7 ай бұрын

​@@Garrett2101literally😭😭 look CA is a hoe but the melodrama that comes out of gamers is insane

When Sega adressed their shareholders earlier they mentioned how they got greedy because of covid gaming boom and pushed CA into branching out into other genres. And that CA will go back to focusing on what they are good at - namely strategy games. I am in no shape or form excusing CA for their failures by saying this. My point is rather that having a leadership centered around steering total War on the right course instead of new business ventures, should make a big difference. This blog post seems to be in that direction.

@damianwozniak3798

7 ай бұрын

If u to young, and dont know game like CENTURION: Defender of Rome (1990) AMIGA. U should play and say what was change in Total War series about 30 years. 🤣Centurion have all what Total War have + gladiator fight's, chariots races, and fleet battles. And it was on 2 FDD - 1,5 Megabyte od data. 😆Well maybe there was no champions. All the rest is the same for 30 years. 😂

@delta9915

7 ай бұрын

​@@damianwozniak3798ok

@rokkraljkolesa9317

7 ай бұрын

@@damianwozniak3798 Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

@skdeathxlife

7 ай бұрын

@@damianwozniak3798 what

@a.t.r.societymember1685

7 ай бұрын

@FreyrTV Interesting! This is the first time I’ve heard this! Could you point me to a source? Would love to read/listen to the whole context. Like you said, does not excuse CA. But does give just a little more hope for the future.

This was a great video, thank you Legend!

Crazy how putting the wrong people in the wrong higher up positions can plummet a company so fast

Hell must have frozen over.