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@VladVexlerChat2 ай бұрын
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@dontsupportrats4089
2 ай бұрын
This was a good day for a bowl of Tomato soup. I wish you a good day.
@gian7707
2 ай бұрын
I loved your closing statement Vlad...you are a legend !
@Grace.allovertheplace
2 ай бұрын
@@gian7707he really is
@ninemoonplanet
2 ай бұрын
No matter where I comment, using reason and logic, my comments are all removed. You Tube is behaving erratically. Some people are allowed to comment negatively, but others aren't. Go figure.
@Grace.allovertheplace
2 ай бұрын
@@ninemoonplanet same
@alexhubble2 ай бұрын
"What did we do to let this happen?" Some of it, in the UK, is we didn't send enough bankers to jail in 2008/9 and the bail-out looked like it was making rich people rich. And the MP's tax scandal, wow, people have forgotten that one too.
@sallywilton2236
2 ай бұрын
There’s always a section of society impressed by cars and watches etc. so stupid. Trump is the ultimate boaster , bragging about material things all the time. Don’t these folk know it’s all transient and soon we all die?
@SerMattzio
2 ай бұрын
On ColdFusionTV there's coverage of a law that basically makes it impossible to prosecute individual bankers for financial crimes such as money laundering for cartels, instead banks almost always just get some little slap-on-the-wrist fine. It's really quite insane and shows incredible corruption of the system.
@MYRRHfamily
2 ай бұрын
I don’t think you know enough about the financial crisis to identify the crooks. In the main it was not investment bankers that make you so angry.
@arnowillekes7979
2 ай бұрын
That’s why he nuanced it as “some of it”…
@alexhubble
2 ай бұрын
@@MYRRHfamily you are right, I don't know enough about it. But in the court of public opinion, the case is solved. What I do know is that Fred Goodwin walked into no. 11 Downing Street and said "we need all the money in the Bank of England, by 11:30, or the world will collapse". I paraphrase but still. This was the same Fred Goodwin that spent the previous 10 years destroying people he deemed inefficient. Part of our new coterie of financial overlords, who lived in the City and scoffed at anything that wasn't banking. Who said we all had to shape up, they blackmailed the country and spent no time in prison. This might make no sense in terms of history, it's what people think and some of them are still very angry about it. That's how we are where we are. Basically,
@daigoro1112 ай бұрын
I am versed in Venezuelan politics as it is my country of origin. Venezuela failed not solely because of "socialist" policies or authoritarian figures, but because institutions failed and disappeared. Over 90% of crimes in Venezuela do not get prosecuted. All institutions from Supreme Court to Justice Dept. and military are sub-servient to a one-party regime. United States institutions continue to hold and most importantly, hold against the powerful. And they need to continue to hold and perform against media coverage, "optics" and politics.
@AstroGremlinAmerican
2 ай бұрын
America is becoming more like Venezuela every day, mostly in kitchens but also in how justice is meted out.
@johncooper6073
2 ай бұрын
Uncontaminated *
@johncooper6073
2 ай бұрын
Liverpool not canning
@Funko777
2 ай бұрын
@@AstroGremlinAmerican I mean tRump just got convicted of 34 felonies, lost a civil rape case, and has plenty more on the way. It's just taking forever and it's clear tRump has received some preferential treatment compared to us normies. Any regular joe would've been booked as soon as they violated one gag order and yet the orange does what he wants. His sentencing will tell us a lot, however. Unfortunately, he did plenty of internal damage to our system by stuffing in demonstrably corrupt supreme Court justices and lower fed judges who were all picked based on loyalty to him instead of merit or desire to serve the American people (in a somewhat objective way at least) Unless of course you're actually referring to the idea that tRump got convicted by a jury of peers in the first place and you're unhappy with that because he's really just a victim of the mean democrats and everything is rigged by illuminati jews 🤡 Hopefully it's the former, seeing as how I doubt many MAGA supporters watch this channel, but you can never be sure. Which is precisely why there is an obligatory clown....just in case.
@occamraiser
2 ай бұрын
They are being subverted constantly, and are proving to be as weak as kittens. No resilience and no courage. The courts are owned by bought and paid for fascists and the few honest judges are vilified and undermined because anyone can say anything in America...because America is STUPID.
Putin will pay one way or another for all the evil bs he's done. As if Ukraine hadn't suffered enough under Moscow rule before Putler and his 1000 year Ruzzian reich came along
@Loki11912 ай бұрын
Hannah Arendt warns of the following: The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced nazi or the convinced communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (e.g. the standards of thought) no longer exist." The origins of totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt In comparison of the Soviet and Nazi regimes Hannah Arendth wrote in 1951 that factuality itself depends for its continued existence upon the existence of a non totalitarian world. The Polarization and Dichotomy of these people amplified by the media and their unshakable stupid belief of being right doesn't make the situation any better.
@noneofurbusiness9062 ай бұрын
Sedated Vlad laying it down :D
@MLG552
2 ай бұрын
indeed. lol
@tiaretsnyheter6026
2 ай бұрын
Good one!
@CollectiveWest12 ай бұрын
Vlad, thank you for this insightful video. I hope that your health is holding up.
@christinepereira76222 ай бұрын
Dearest Vlad, I can't tell how much I cherish your voice and the insights you bring to my heart and mind, thank you so much 🙏 I hope you recover swiftly from your procedure, and I can't quite believe you made yourself work for us, very naughty boy ;) Please rest and enjoy the remainder of your sedation. Much love 💕
@Davemte34108
2 ай бұрын
Well, I am here 4 hours after having chemo, listening. 😌 Rolling on the 10mg Dexamethasone train.
@beth7935
2 ай бұрын
@@Davemte34108 I hope it took your mind off things & you don't feel too rubbish, & I hope the chemo works. 🤗
@christinepereira7622
2 ай бұрын
@@Davemte34108 What a combo 🙏 Hope your treatments don't take too long and that they improve your health ❤
@JohnDoe-jd7oc
2 ай бұрын
Yikes ! Cda
@Davemte34108
2 ай бұрын
@@beth7935 Have my good days and not so good ones. So far seems to be working. 🙂
@philjameson2922 ай бұрын
Regardless of whether you agree that Trump should have been prosecuted and found guilty, you should consider the moral aspects of Trump's actions He committed infidelity and then paid off the other party in order to silence her. He then attempted to cover up the payoff. These actions show that Trump has highly dubious moral core which lead to questions about his fitness for leadership In previous times (not so long ago) these series of events by a politician would have led to their resignation The fact that Trump acts with outrage at anyone who dares questions his actions and morals should be ringing alarm bells for everyone as it suggests that he is unwilling to be constrained by society's social, legal and moral framework
@jaarneal
2 ай бұрын
Agree. And from that perspective, I keep coming back to my feeling that this isn’t even in the top 10 worst things he has done (that we know about). That he finally gets convicted of a felony because of… this… of all things… is almost depressing. The whole situation is just so bizarre and it has this twinge of nihilism. It’s like 40% of America didn’t get the memo that we’re supposed to care about the conduct of our officeholders. I can’t believe how little I care about this conviction. A former POTUS and a major candidate in an election 6 months away was just convicted. I care about politics. I do research. I love to follow polls. And I still barely care.
@brunorivest
2 ай бұрын
" he is unwilling to be constrained by society's social, legal and moral framework" It might be part of the reasons why he's so popular.
@philjameson292
2 ай бұрын
@@brunorivest it doesn't say much for the right wing being protectors of traditional values
@krisvq
2 ай бұрын
What a nonsensical point of view. We should be ok with prosecution of people who committed no actual crimes because they refuse or by some other measurement don't fit within a populist version of an imaginary moral code. We know what this is. They're called blasphemy laws. And we made these extinct for a reason.
@IronHorsey3
2 ай бұрын
Do you know where Tara Reade is today? How about Joe Biden showering with his daughter? The US needs to rewrite law to prosecute Biden and his Obama shadow government.
@wojecire2 ай бұрын
Vlad, thank you for being a lighthouse in the vast sea of this thing we call social media. You always find the perfect way of putting into words exactly the feeling I'm having in my mind.
@heisner667
2 ай бұрын
It is uncanny and reassuring.
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
Grateful to have you.
@MercurialStatic
2 ай бұрын
If this is what you’re thinking, your mind may not be your own at this point.
@heisner667
2 ай бұрын
@@MercurialStatic hahahaha. Jungian.
@JohnDoe-jd7oc
2 ай бұрын
A little dramatic. Cda.
@alexhubble2 ай бұрын
Ah, slightly stoned Vlad, an unexpected new look but I'm cool with it.
@chrisconn8751
2 ай бұрын
I could almost keep up 😂
@moxie_ST2 ай бұрын
This is what I consider heavy food for thought. So I need to listen twice 👍
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
Sorry if I am not making sense!
@moxie_ST
2 ай бұрын
@@VladVexlerChat You do , but I am in not so good position to compute your massage to, aka with family in town.
@heisner667
2 ай бұрын
This was a great post. These are complex concerns.
@MercurialStatic
2 ай бұрын
@@VladVexlerChat some might not be able to see it, but it obvious just by the words you use that you are a fascist.
@Davemte34108
2 ай бұрын
@@moxie_ST Well, I am here 4 hours after having chemo, listening. Rolling on the 10mg IV Dexamethasone train. 😎
@BooleanDisorder2 ай бұрын
I'm constantly surprised by hearing people minimize the actions of post-truth politicians. "Meh, every politician does that" - even people who don't like the post-truther's party.
@DoloresJNurss2 ай бұрын
Thank you for making provision ahead of time to be able to address us under less than ideal circumstances! Now get some rest and recuperate--you deserve all of this and more. May the procedures bear good fruit!
@vladimirnovakovic34952 ай бұрын
To counter post truth populist politicians there is a colossal need for credible and inspiring alternative political leaders able to move democracy forward by reforming the institutions and restoring their credibility. Very tall order.
@williambranch4283
2 ай бұрын
Leon Trotsky?
@anythreeletters
2 ай бұрын
I agree, but what reforms can inspire the people?
@williambranch4283
2 ай бұрын
@@anythreeletters Communist revolution ... until your usefulness is ended ;-)
@hivetech4903
2 ай бұрын
Wrong - horrible takeaway as it missing the point that "credible & inspiring leader" is a point of view. Trump was that person to a lot of people, and that thinking started this whole mess. The institutions have proven their credibility time & again, its only that gullible people keep believing lies from politicians who say they aren't credible - namely the now fascist Republican party and their alt-right supporters like Fox News.
@iv2sab512
2 ай бұрын
But the problem is that the Trump followers don't really want democracy. They just want power. They want to have their way. If that means getting rid of democracy, they're more than happy to do it.
@JAllenKaiser2 ай бұрын
As much as we need our democratic institutions to hold and continue functioning, we need the same of our justice system. Pressing forward with this trial and conviction is the only glowing ember left on the smothered hearth of the entire judiciary. If we’re willing to sacrifice equal justice under the rule of law -in exchange for the mere chance of a return to political norms and de-escalated partisanship - then the political institutions we’re struggling to save are meaningless trappings hung upon an entirely failed constitutional self-governance and irreparably broken social contract.
@marty2129
2 ай бұрын
How do you deal with situation when pressing trial is the only way to maintain equal justice (or at least equal-ish justice, because if it was anyone other than Trump they would be already found guilty and sentenced by now), and all of it knowing full well that third of the country won't accept the result?
@JAllenKaiser
2 ай бұрын
@@marty2129matters of law are not subject to public opinion polls. If they are allowed to become so, they cease to be matters of law, and become matters of PR, politics, and worst of all: propaganda.
@JAllenKaiser
2 ай бұрын
@@marty2129 matters of law are not subject to public opinion polls. If they are allowed to become so, they cease to be matters of law, and become matters of Public Relations and political advertising.
@marty2129
2 ай бұрын
@@JAllenKaiser Ok, I may have misunderstood your initial comment, I thought our opinions about the trial differ. (I am not a native English speaker, sorry.)
@JAllenKaiser
2 ай бұрын
@@marty2129 oh, I’m sorry too - I can see how my mixed metaphors could be confusing, especially to a non-native English speaker.
@daviddelgado60902 ай бұрын
The only reference to Trump's phenomenon that I can think of is the Red Scare of the 1950s. McCarthy's fall was so severe that it hasn't been until Trump that we've experienced such subversion. Given Trump's narcissism and age it may be a while for someone else to succeed at his game.
@lawrence18uk2 ай бұрын
Vlad, thanks, one of your most important posts. I mean you're right, 9:32 that if a large part of the electorate "doesn't believe in the integrity" of a part of Democracy's institutions, then democracy _is_ broken, and a top priority is to fix (change) this, and to also _say_ that it is a top priority. We've been taught about the main ingredients of a well-functioning democracy (eg in school) but we didn't learn that those institutions _do have to be trusted otherwise they are not functioning_ . (Even if they actually are!) - Worth a repeat listen!
@iv2sab512
2 ай бұрын
But a large part of the electorate doesn't believe in the integrity of the vote because of the "post truth" (lying) politician that spread the lie about election fraud. Also, the GOP doesn't actually want to fix democracy. It just wants to rule, democracy and the rule of law be damned. I think we understand the problem, but I think we still lack a solution.
@Lynette.usa.2 ай бұрын
The US AG waited way too long to bring Charges against Trump which is a big mistake.
@rachelatwood9555
2 ай бұрын
Garland is useless
@Todd.B
2 ай бұрын
@@rachelatwood9555 I wouldn't say useless, to mild mannered and cautious to meet the moment is probably a better description. I've always thought Biden made a mistake in appointing Kamala Harris as VP, she could have served our country so much better as AG. She could have met the met the moment.
@mendez704
2 ай бұрын
Actually, I will say the Justice System in general took too long to bring this criminal to justice. Trump has raped women, falsified business and personal records (to avoid paying taxes) and scammed thousands of people for many decades, and they allowed to get away with it. It was only when he became a threat not only to democracy, but more importantly, to a great part of the establishment, that they decided to do something. And of course, even that, they did late.
@tomrecane6366
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@IronHorsey3
2 ай бұрын
It takes time to manufacture lawfare and Trump hadn't announced he was running. Don't be upset by the lack of Stalinist efficiency. They are working to recreate new ways to abuse the civil rights of Americans every day.
@grandlotus12 ай бұрын
I was elated to learn that my brother and his son, my nephew are subscribers and fans. Wow! Great minds think alike. Even so, we are in awe of your intellect and discernment.
@MLG5522 ай бұрын
excellent analysis. I live in CA, USA and the damage is irreparable and it is continuing.
@neilclay58352 ай бұрын
I don't think that all of the audience are going to know the ship in the bay metaphor. I do because I give teacher an Apple every month and sit on the front row, but some of these stragglers from other six-forms might not.
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
💛💛💛💛
@erichert10012 ай бұрын
I've seen Trump supporters complaining that the prosecutors were "biased." How do you even start with someone like that?
@jva4120
2 ай бұрын
You don't start on that point because it ends 5 seconds later with you saying "mate you're a moron". And then you've lost already.
@alantyndall85
2 ай бұрын
There was a supporter outside who dry heaved after the verdict and then joined a fellow Trump fan to claim the verdict didn’t count for unstated reasons. It’s not what’s true but how it makes you feel.
@danlindy9670
2 ай бұрын
I think Vlad said you start by (1) categorically opposing a post-truth populist, (2) saying that you agree democracy is under threat, and then (3) say that we all want to fix it for everyone. There is no benefit to arguing with unsupported opinion based entirely on emotion; you just make it clear that you disagree.
@mikecaetano
2 ай бұрын
Ask them how it is that they came to believe that it's never Trump's fault and always somebody else fault in case after case after case. The dear leader can never fail but only be failed!!!
@brandonheinz2635
2 ай бұрын
because the Prosecutor Alvin Bragg was running for office on the platform of putting Trump in jail. this was before the case was even brought. so yeah I'd call that bias.
@Scanlonam2 ай бұрын
I also wish that all four indictments had come 18 months earlier and not faced all these crazy delays. However, one has to know how much it takes to put a legal case together on the part of the proscecutors. The delay is largely down to people who support Trump in the legal system.
@gaborrajnai62132 ай бұрын
About the reality show targeting the plebs, I would argue I was very surprised that the jury concluded the verdict in such a short notice, since it required all jurors to agree on it, I thought there is at least one MAGA supporter, who would stop the process for months. That basically makes the case almost unarguably justified.
@AstroGremlinAmerican
2 ай бұрын
Does it? OJ was found not guilty.
@quintrankid8045
2 ай бұрын
"t required all jurors to agree on it," I read the jury instructions and I think this isn't quite true and it will probably grounds for appeal.
@Nils_Ki
2 ай бұрын
If all jurors agreeing to convict is a reason to appeal, no conviction will ever be able to stand.
@unconventionalideas5683
2 ай бұрын
@@quintrankid8045 Nah, it is. They must all agree that he committed business fraud, at least partially in service of furthering at least one other illegal activity/action. They might not have to agree on what that illegal activity is or whether the accused, in this case Trump, may have had motives that did not involve other criminal activities, but they must all agree that he committed business fraud at least partially in the service of furthering at least one other illegal activity/action.
@quintrankid8045
2 ай бұрын
@@unconventionalideas5683 Yes, they don't have to agree on what that illegal thing was. This worries me. I want juries to decide on crimes unanimously. I think the appeal is going to be interesting.
@diane92472 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, Vlad. As always, I hope your audience grows to include top-tier decision makers. Where I live, people like me are surrounded by Trumpists who are impossible to penetrate with ideas other than their own. I try with all the empathy I can muster, because some are truly decent people. But very, very cultish and wind themselves up to scary levels. I can't take much of it.
@heisner6672 ай бұрын
Vlad’s argument on Jan.6 is so important. Trump supporters are in control of the argument. If we are arguing based on there lie, we have already lost.
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
Both sides are lying about Jan 6th. Maga was lying or deluded about the election being stolen. Their political opponents lie about it being an insurrection, that police were murdered, or that agent provocateurs were not instrumental in stirring up the Riot despite the amount of video evidence.
@Funko777
2 ай бұрын
This MAGA crap is causing immeasurable amounts of psychological damage to this country. I feel I've been taking crazy pills since 2014. Between him, his MAGA trolls, and Putin's trolls also fanning the flames of misinformation and manipulating competing narratives...the end result is not good. So many people have already lost their minds because of what are essentially conspiracy theories...it's unreal. It's some serious Orwellian crap mixed with Joseph Goebbels propaganda playbook.
@TheRedsMan112 ай бұрын
Regarding the need to prioritize democratic preservation, unfortunately that well has also been poisoned, at least in the realm of vote counting. Reps claim the threat is illegal voters voting and put forth policy to suppress minority/Dem vote -- some arguably legitimate (voter ID), some not (gerrymandering, placement of polling stations). Dems claim the threat is voter suppression and put forth policy to make voting easier. The very causes of distrust are polarized.
@liamdesmond45042 ай бұрын
No idea why you think the democrats wouldn’t acknowledge the win of the republicans if it happens. What do you base that assertion on? The difference between the two parties right now is presumably exactly that the democrats would acknowledge the passing of power to republicans
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
That’s partly why I am making the point. There will be a fairly pervasive view that Trump is not a legitimate president because he is out to destroy democracy. Moreover, that view is not entirely wrong, as I explain.
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
No idea why? Gaslighting right there. Did you not see and listen to how Democrats and their supporters led by Mrs Clinton quietly conceded the 2016 election, then for the next 4 years loudly called the results illegitimate and poisoned the discourse with the giant Russiagate hoax
@Funko777
2 ай бұрын
@@VladVexlerChat while I totally agree with your point on overcoming this situation with depolarization topics and genuinely like the (hopefully) cooperative discussion this would lead into....it does somewhat rely on both parties to be rational and coherent. Unfortunately, that's just not typically what we see in the US with the minds of MAGA people, especially the true believers and not just the ones toeing the party line or trying to keep up appearances for fear of being called a fake. tRump has made it his mission to stuff as many "true believers" (cultists) as possible into the highest positions of authority in US politics. Mainly the two blatantly corrupt supreme Court justices and federal judges who will no doubt protect him from accountability in any way they can. Even with these people who are supposed to be lifelong professionals driven by a desire to serve their people in an objective way, we instead see them with the same willingness to be rational or rooted in reality as a homeless person screaming at ducks in the park. Based on conversations I've had with those that "drank the Kool aid" within my own family and those Ive met elsewhere, facts and trying to relate to their desires for the country result in just more insanity and unhinged delusions. 2+2 doesn't equal 4 anymore, it equals conspiracies, paranoia, fear, hate, selfishness, etc. I guess my point is, how can you depolarize when there's just seemingly nothing left in there? The total disregard for reality is what scares me most because once that happens there is no talking, no middle ground. You're seen as part of "them" and an enemy forever onward.
@AvB2106
2 ай бұрын
According to Hillary Clinton, Trump didn’t win in 2016 and is illegitimate. In 2004, Bush stole Ohio, according to a bunch of Democrat officials. Not to forget 2000, of course. The republicans caught up with this election denying nonsense, and Trump exploits it like there no tomorrow, as he’s doing with everything. I really do not respect the view that somehow Trump is this singular wrecking ball to the institutions of the US, when he is the reaction and logical consequence of so called „liberals“ in the US of undermining the legitimacy of the Supreme Court, the entire judicial system and the fabric of society by claiming that the US is inherently racist. Trump is a figure created by the American left and the entertainment complex who in his late days turned against them and is, to a large extend, a reflection of the left on the other side. So I am not surprised that he is hated as much by them, because he is their mirror image.
@shannonjane7373
2 ай бұрын
Writing from the USA--Hillary Clinton did not accept the 2016 results. She still doesn't. She and President Carter always called Trump an "illegitimate President" who only got in because of Russian interference. Many Democrats refused to accept the 2016 results--remember not my President and the massive "p-hat" protests. Also the BLM rioting and violence was a rolling leftist protest. Do you believe "police brutality" has ended under Biden, or is massive rioting reserved for when Republicans hold power?
@SL-sd3sg2 ай бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ to you Vlad
@rocobruno2 ай бұрын
Although I tend to agree on political ideology classification Trump poses a unique threat to the world [dis]order as we know it. It's like the swiss cheese theory in reverse. Thanks to it's unique sociopathic personality, an extremely grievances consumed media environment, the inherent echo chambers of social networks, this man defies the social gravity law every single day. It's insanely depressing...
@williambrasky38912 ай бұрын
For being stoned, you’re holding it down. I swear to god your cadence is actually quicker.
@MercurialStatic
2 ай бұрын
Dude probably is doing this so he can get medical care. Imagine your life depending on you lying every single day…
@djparn0072 ай бұрын
Thank you, Vlad. 👍
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@neilclay58352 ай бұрын
I hope that you recover very soon Vlad. Much love.
@whysoserious86662 ай бұрын
There is a corollary to the Big Lie rule. The lie has to be one that many people want to believe.
@bastiandougherty99272 ай бұрын
I agree about the productive approach when discussing political opponents. I.e. not just saying the other team is bad, but reviewing how we can make the system better for all. But I struggle to see the way in which we actually get to the step of deliberation. Do you have any ideas? Oh, and keep up the good work and get well soon!
@tobiasruland45532 ай бұрын
get well soon, Vlad! Lots of love 🌈🦄❤️❤️❤️
@vaclavkrpec28792 ай бұрын
11:00: The problem with this approach is that that the cultists will answer that question with “make Trump president, that’ll do it and nothing else”.
@AstroGremlinAmerican
2 ай бұрын
Calling the opposition "cultists" shows a messianic conviction of similar depth.
@vaclavkrpec2879
2 ай бұрын
@@AstroGremlinAmerican No, it’s just calling them what they are.
@fiona25322 ай бұрын
Good to see you Vlad! Hope you are well! Just passing through, haven’t watched much on here in a long time.
@florete23102 ай бұрын
Vlad: "(...) I am still sedated from a medical procedure." Also Vlad: "... therefore I decided to get in front of a camera." 😂 -> It's always good to see you, Vlad. Hope you're well :)
@Asehpe2 ай бұрын
I understand and agree with Vlad's point about opening a conversation with those who 'hate' us -- "You think our democracy needs to be fixed? Great, so do I. Let's do it together! Now what needs to change?..." In principle, I agree--this should happen. In practice, however... if you already have a situation in which so many (a majority perhaps) of the people think that 'they' (those we hate) are the problem, how can we even bring them together to start this conversation? Each side already distrusts the other and does not want to grant them even the possibility of being sincere in their desire to improve the situation. Each side views the other as The Problem that needs to be solved ("it's not our democracy, it's YOU!"). This already being the case, for millions and millions of people, how can it change? Convincing Trump supporters and Trump haters / Biden supporters and Biden haters to sit down and make a plan for the future appears implausible. How do you suggest that we go about implementing that?
@yisraelmeirsobel907
2 ай бұрын
One thing he talks about is local organization and politics. The idea being, you use a less polarized setting, where there is much more obvious common interest, to build trust and citizen solidarity in order to later work on the more difficult issues.
@danielcreamer96692 ай бұрын
Vlad always there to better my politics even when ill! Brought to mind Lincoln's "Better Angels of our Nature." Unfortunately, it feels as if we need a politician of Lincoln's caliber to navigate this properly.
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much.
@heisner667
2 ай бұрын
I thought of Lincoln also while listening. I also thought of Gettysburg.
@Davemte34108
2 ай бұрын
@@heisner667 Will be 80 in a while, raised by my grandparents mostly by grandfather after I was 5. He was a WWI vet, Aircraft Maintainer in France 1918. His grandfather was a Civil War vet, Iron Brigade of the West, 19th Regiment, Indiana Volunteer Infantry. He talked about the experience's of his grandfather during and after the war. He was of the opinion that the war was never properly resolved and we were still living with the consequences.
@AstroGremlinAmerican
2 ай бұрын
@@Davemte34108 A bunch of lawyers worked out the "peace" after WWI.
@heisner667
2 ай бұрын
@@Davemte34108 I agree. It is a challenge we have been with. I think we are stronger together. I hope we will be stronger after these times.
@SalihGoncu2 ай бұрын
We need to get back to the ability to "agree to disagree"
@jeffmason70132 ай бұрын
Thank you for the thoughtful perspective. I, however, will need more explication I think to better understand it. Please
@TheRetrospective2 ай бұрын
Thanks Vlad, I love how you calmly expose both post-truthists and media neglecting them. This channel is my safe haven amonst all the dirty noise of social media.
@acetyl40882 ай бұрын
One of the most puzzling arguments I have heard about Trump's recent conviction has been that "there is no way he could have gotten a fair trial in NYC". Todd Blanche (his lead counsel) was saying that he was "too notorious" in NYC to be tried there because of "his presidency, candidacy, and The Apprentice (lol)". This type of argument boggles my mind... is there anywhere that Trump isn't notorious? Why does it matter if he only received 8% of the vote in southern manhattan? I genuinely don't understand why a well-regarded (or at least well-educated) lawyer would think there's legal backing to have him tried elsewhere if the crimes he committed where in that district. This argument opens up a whole can of worms... if a liberal black guy gets arrested in a conservative, 90% white county should he not be tried in that county because "there's no way he can be tried amongst a jury of his peers"??? I really just don't get it.
@davidmurphy7332
2 ай бұрын
It’s because there is now a perception - not necessarily a reality, though- in the US that you’re either for Trump or against him. And it is a binary, not a spectrum, so there’s no nuance or exploration of people’s attitudes towards him
@alphaclam
2 ай бұрын
Because people like Vlad have convinced the public that Trump is a Hitleresque authoritarian that is going to "destroy democracy." People are so misled about him that many think he will round up and murder millions of citizens if elected, serve extra terms, suspend rule of law, etc, which is ridiculous. If you thought you were standing in the way of Hitler, you would vote to convict no matter what because any means necessary are valid to prevent such evil. Interfering in the election, lying to the public, weaponizing the intelligence agencies are also valid -- people have engaged in such activities for the same reason they have convicted Trump.
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
Have you ever served in a jury? It's unnerving how swayed people are by their preconceived bias and emotive narrative rather than just the admissible evidence. It's troubling in politically polarising times, but it's not baseless
@acetyl4088
2 ай бұрын
@@PjRjHj Well sure but every other trial functions the same way. Are we supposed to call every other jury verdict a disgraceful sham because biases exist? This example is the epitome of how Trump is cultivating an anti-conservative "tear it all down" culture with no substantive solution other than autocracy and cult of personality. He's eroding trust in every system other than his office and image. It's grotesque.
@quintrankid8045
2 ай бұрын
Do you think that a change of venue is never appropriate? Why not in this case?
@MickB52s2 ай бұрын
Thanks Vlad. Its true , a slice at a time eventually leads to loss of democratic process
@Niko-hs3ls2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this perspective. I’ve been trying to get people to see this crucial distinction of labeling something accurately vs finding solutions. The former leads to the latter but isn’t the latter on its own. People often say “we’ve labeled correctly so why don’t you agree? And if you don’t you must want some terrible thing.” We’ve given up on persuading in our democracy.
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
Sounds like you are trying to persuade while cutting a fundamental corner that is trust. If i understand correctly, the former Wiki boss was arguing the same point on a TED talk and ended up being slain throughout the online space because she had not gained the trust or recognised authority of people at large.
@Niko-hs3ls
2 ай бұрын
@@PjRjHj building trust is part of persuasion in my view. You can persuade people long term by showing trustworthiness and earning their trust over time through demonstrated actions.
@radoslavliptak38422 ай бұрын
Hysteria that Trump causes in his oponents is something that helps him to win.
@beth7935
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's got a lot more to do with emotion than facts & logic... like, we're all emotion-driven, but I think people here are at least aware of that, & at least try to interrogate our opinions to see what emotions may be driving them.
@PierredeCur
2 ай бұрын
The only hysteria I see is among Trump cultists. The problem is rather the contrary: that most regular people - everyone except his cultists - do not realize the danger he poses to democracy. It's very similar to what happened with Hitler.
@aiolos0002 ай бұрын
damn, you're more awake when sedated than me after a 8 hour sleep. Hope your health gets better.
@saimbhat62432 ай бұрын
I often make snarky remarks about you political commentary and sometimes about you. But I want you to know that I wish and pray for your good health and happiness. I might deem your political analysis wrong, but you are a human and a good one at that. I wish you to be happy and healthy.
@warpaw532 ай бұрын
Pretty darn good for a sedated guy!❤️
@Scarletpimpanel732 ай бұрын
Stay strong Vlad. Appreciate your thoughts.
@kentalanlee2 ай бұрын
Democracy requires an educated and informed electorate. Those who propose 'universal democratic governance' as some sort of a panacea to plutocratic forces, fail to apprehend how easy it is for a plutocrat to appeal to the worst sensibilities of the poorly educated and informed, and thereby poison the language of compromise, which is a precondition of democracy. If an individual voter feels that government power structures are 'rigged' against them, then cooperation and compromise can never occur. That would be an existential non-starter. The main origin of this populist groundswell is very simply the government bailout of the financial system after 2008. When the average person knows that if they go bankrupt, they get closed down, but then they see the largest financial institutions in the world propped up, this abrogates the democratic order's unspoken social contract. It makes them realize that the plutocracy is about protecting power, not creating a system of fair play. Thus, there is little incentive to be reasonable. Instead, the tendency will be to tear down the social order that protects the plutocrats. This is where the populist 'post-truth' emotional reaction comes from. Media are controlled by plutocratic forces, and push whatever propaganda that their owners demand. It is incredibly difficult to remain informed, even with multiple degrees, when the available information is curated by a press that pushes specific narratives, and colludes with those in power, simply because that is who pays their salaries. Post-truth isn't just about the populists. It's also about who is paying the journalistic 'fact-checkers' who want to be the arbiters of what 'truth' even is.
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
Education didn't prevent Nazism in Germany, nor toxic hyper-identitarian progressivism in the Anglosphere
@kentalanlee
2 ай бұрын
@@PjRjHj Excellent point, that one cannot prevent polarization at either end of the political spectrum by education alone. However, I think Vlad's point here was that, it is important to be INFORMED about what sorts of argument WILL WORK in an environment where outside influences seek to further inflame polarization. Addressing the REAL CONCERNS of those who are impassioned by either extreme, is a valuable tool to try to encourage engagement and buffer the dehumanization of political opponents which often results. To further the chemistry analogy, we have to understand how to buffer the radicals, as it were.
@some_phantom2599
2 ай бұрын
The very idea that the financial system is somehow disassociated with the savings and employment of ordinary people seems absurd to me. The financial crisis could have become a much deeper recession, with countless random innocent people losing their lifetime savings, if no bailout had occurred. The real failure was the failure to communicate basic economic reality effectively and convincingly to the general public, which opened the door wide to all manner of alternative populist narratives. Obviously it didn't help, that few of the governments that were in power at the time had a cohesive interpretation of the situation and seemed to be trying out remedies on a trial and error basis. If Lehman Brothers had been bailed out (by diluting their stocks with government funds - in effect partial nationalisation) accompanied by a commitment to let no major borrower default on its debt, and a strong message to the public that partial nationalisation was the best way to keep everybody's savings safe, 2008 might not have undermined trust in democracy to the same extent!
@kentalanlee
2 ай бұрын
@@some_phantom2599 Perhaps. But a simple antecedent action could have prevented even that necessity. Things were allowed that should not have been. I might offer the observation, that repeal of Glass-Steagall was evidence of the capture of American democratic institutions by rogue plutocrats, more interested in their own speculative ventures, than the safety of the global economy. Because they wagered, correctly as it turns out, that they could leave tax-payers holding the bag, when and if it all fell apart. The fact that even at this late date, the original GS legislative safety mechanisms have not been put back in place, is more damning proof that the populists are not wrong in their distrust of the powerful hidden world of government and finance. If we want to create trust in the social contract, and fight post-truth extremism, then we must make sure that government holds the same rule set for plebeians and patricians. Fighting post-truth populism isn't just shutting them up or shutting them down. It's finding the source of their motivation to tear things down and removing it.
@kentalanlee
2 ай бұрын
@some_phantom2599 Perhaps. But a simple antecedent action could have prevented even that necessity. Things were allowed that should not have been. I might offer the observation, that repeal of Glass-Steagall was evidence of the capture of American democratic institutions by rogue plutocrats, more interested in their own speculative ventures, than the safety of the global economy. Because they wagered, correctly as it turns out, that they could leave tax-payers holding the bag, when and if it all fell apart. The fact that even at this late date, the original GS legislative safety mechanisms have not been put back in place, is more damning proof that the populists are not wrong in their distrust of the powerful hidden world of government and finance. If we want to create trust in the social contract, and fight post-truth extremism, then we must make sure that government holds the same rule set for plebeians and patricians. Fighting post-truth populism isn't just shutting them up or shutting them down. It's finding the source of their motivation to tear things down and removing it.
@stevenjohns-savage70242 ай бұрын
Thanks Vlad 😊
@donixion43682 ай бұрын
The "political bookies" have been wrong for years though. Polls are often taken by calling landlines. Who has landlines and is willing to pick up for a survey? If you said older people, you win a prize! Older voters are far more likely to support Trump, the problem is that they are not the only ones voting. Polls have been extremely bad at reaching middle aged and younger voters and this makes the data they gather unreliable.
@unconventionalideas5683
2 ай бұрын
Older voters these days seem to overwhelmingly support Biden. The issue is that they have lost the pulse of the middle of what most young people think, and no longer weight demographics correctly because of the effects of COVID and disparate vaccination rates, mask wearing, and a whole load of other factors, too. Furthermore, more younger folk now have spam call blockers, and when they do not, they still refuse anonymous telephone pollsters much more than historically. There may also be design faults elsewhere. So what does that mean? Not much, other than that polling is unreliable.
@TheopolisQSmith2 ай бұрын
Now that News is considered a revenue source the idea of balancing news is subordinated to views and clicks. Not like in ancient times.
@cernel57992 ай бұрын
Just study what happened with Berlusconi, and you will probably get what is going to happen with Trump. Trump is basically the United-States-American Berlusconi. The main thing would be comparing the Italy's and United-States' jurisdictions to guess if the latter will fare any better than the former.
@suzannstrohmaier25782 ай бұрын
Thanks so much Vlad...even with the sedation you are on point and very informative. It´s going to be a long road to November.
@gurupilates2 ай бұрын
@Vlad- you ALWAYS make sense 🥰
@asdf_asdf_asdf2 ай бұрын
Very good Vlad, this is the right path. Cheers!
@hansteike31542 ай бұрын
Less emphasis on linguistic elegance and more on real world coherence would help if the goal is indeed to expand awareness of certain issues rather than approval from those already in the know. Just saying.
@heisner6672 ай бұрын
A deeper look at post truth lies. How they effect the individual. How to understand and fight them. Would be beneficial.
@iv2sab512
2 ай бұрын
It's like a cult. It's very hard to break through to someone once they've joined.
@papakokopelli2 ай бұрын
Brilliant analysis, as usual. And wise advice to boot. I´d like to see you do (or link to) a short history of post-truth philosophy and politics.
@jessicarowley96312 ай бұрын
Thanks, Vlad. I hope you recover okay.
@occamraiser2 ай бұрын
The democracies need to institute laws that make every social media channel liable for the accuracy of their content. If they can't or won't police content then let them go to the wall.
@jillwentworth67112 ай бұрын
I find this extremely interesting and "promising", but left wanting a "Part 2". I selfishly, but also compassionately, wish you well, and hoping you rebound and return for more in this vein. Take care!
@phaedrussocrates76362 ай бұрын
Thank you
@rachelatwood95552 ай бұрын
twenty, twenty, twenty-four hours to go...
@ChoompaLoompa1985-uw8lwАй бұрын
We'll get better at it. Practice makes perfect.
@Ian_Carolan2 ай бұрын
Great content as Vlad. Thank you.
@anjaseidl40032 ай бұрын
Watch the polemic graphic of BR24 in which Putin is presented as "Papa" (the pope) with the header: Why the West does not deal with Putin on his call for peace..."
@viennaih2 ай бұрын
Very insightful! Thank you
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
My pleasure.
@andycope66832 ай бұрын
The ad before your video was for Lawrence Fox's entrepreneural Reclaim Media 😅
@christophstrasen15672 ай бұрын
Good and important message at the end. Thank you Vlad.
@archangel26332 ай бұрын
Great analysis, fithing fire with fire will not just get everyone burnt, but also only rewards pyromaniacs. Thanks and get well soon.
@b1daly12 ай бұрын
Vlad is the smartest cultural commentator I’ve come across! It’s hard to navigate this world when humans rely on narratives to understand events yet need capacity to understand the meta-narratives at play. That’s uncomfortable.
@quexalcoatl2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your discussion on this topic Vlad, it's extremely important and also fascinating. I feel the acceleration of media and ease of access to them lit the fuse on this post-truth trend we're seeing now.
@thinktwice-me7ie2 ай бұрын
Wonderful and inspiring! Thank you, Vlad
@mediastudiesnetwork2 ай бұрын
I need this Vlad
@andrelabonte22942 ай бұрын
Hello Vlad, Nice to see you again. It’s been a while. Really enjoyed listening to you today. Take care.☮️🇨🇦
@clairejeannette84542 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@gian77072 ай бұрын
I loved your closing statement Vlad...you are a legend !
@guydreamr2 ай бұрын
Vlad has correctly distinguished between form and content, between the outward husk of the legal system which judged Trump technically guilty and the living, breathing reality of millions of disaffected citizens for whom his toxic message continues to resonate.
@AstroGremlinAmerican
2 ай бұрын
That Biden is even running has deprived Americans of an alternative. He's not healthy, and Kamala Harris . . . remains silent and laughs at us.
@ilikewatchingfood2 ай бұрын
i love you Vlad stay well, be blessed, and share your truth
@FriedOrca2 ай бұрын
Hmmm..., I think it would be a serious problem to continue to rely on easily broken/ignored norms instead of laws with teeth.
@emm_arr2 ай бұрын
Eyes like saucers ... hope you are well, Mr V.
@woofcity63072 ай бұрын
Good episode
@orterves2 ай бұрын
8:45 even if Trump wins, he will deny the legitimacy of the other side
@PragerFenster2 ай бұрын
Wishing you a speedy recovery, dear Vlad. ❤ Still, I am struggling to get what the takeaway from your message would be for me. After all, post-truth actors usually would not even feel that democracy is something worth preserving....
@rchristie54012 ай бұрын
LOL. Good post. You are just as sharp, sedated as you are not. get better, we are pulling for ya.
@euanmcconnell10592 ай бұрын
Thanks
@wesdowner56362 ай бұрын
"Populist," used to have a positive connotation. In fact, there was even a US presidential candidate (W. J. Bryan) who ran as a Populist, literally the name of the party, in the late 1800s. I heard Nancy Pelosi using the term as an insult recently, and was fairly confused!
@hififlipper2 ай бұрын
Hrello❤❤❤
@franziskakraussart2 ай бұрын
To me it’s all about learning how to deal with narcissistic abuse on societal/political level. It’s the same mechanisms as on a personal level: Slowly creeping in and progressively destructive for a society, i.e. the MAGA-cult or the c-PTSD state of the Russian population. General awareness and legislative tools need to be upgraded in order to be able to effectively deal with this kind of crime. Thank you for your thought provoking vids.
@johncooper60732 ай бұрын
One of the political facts of lincolns government is the passionate love the army had for him. If hed sent soldiers to arrest Taney the Supreme Court Justice they would have obeyed. And the mikitary is the ultimate sanction of pitical power.
@bethanyrae0012 ай бұрын
5:08. Obscure truth. Is this because there is a 'greater cause' that requires it?
@aegirkarl14112 ай бұрын
"Meditations of a Sedated Philosopher"
@NeistH2o2 ай бұрын
maybe they are on the front stage right now because they are difficult to deal with using reason and logic
@NeistH2o
2 ай бұрын
I think that yes those politicians are appealing to many with lies and populists rhetoric, but i think they also bolstered a lot the general knowledge (of politics, institutions, etc) and the critical thinking of their opposition
@nnm352 ай бұрын
One of your best posts ever (I know you have covered these themes before). How do we turn this into an op-ed piece for the major newspapers?
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@dontsupportrats4089
2 ай бұрын
This was a good day for a bowl of Tomato soup. I wish you a good day.
@gian7707
2 ай бұрын
I loved your closing statement Vlad...you are a legend !
@Grace.allovertheplace
2 ай бұрын
@@gian7707he really is
@ninemoonplanet
2 ай бұрын
No matter where I comment, using reason and logic, my comments are all removed. You Tube is behaving erratically. Some people are allowed to comment negatively, but others aren't. Go figure.
@Grace.allovertheplace
2 ай бұрын
@@ninemoonplanet same
"What did we do to let this happen?" Some of it, in the UK, is we didn't send enough bankers to jail in 2008/9 and the bail-out looked like it was making rich people rich. And the MP's tax scandal, wow, people have forgotten that one too.
@sallywilton2236
2 ай бұрын
There’s always a section of society impressed by cars and watches etc. so stupid. Trump is the ultimate boaster , bragging about material things all the time. Don’t these folk know it’s all transient and soon we all die?
@SerMattzio
2 ай бұрын
On ColdFusionTV there's coverage of a law that basically makes it impossible to prosecute individual bankers for financial crimes such as money laundering for cartels, instead banks almost always just get some little slap-on-the-wrist fine. It's really quite insane and shows incredible corruption of the system.
@MYRRHfamily
2 ай бұрын
I don’t think you know enough about the financial crisis to identify the crooks. In the main it was not investment bankers that make you so angry.
@arnowillekes7979
2 ай бұрын
That’s why he nuanced it as “some of it”…
@alexhubble
2 ай бұрын
@@MYRRHfamily you are right, I don't know enough about it. But in the court of public opinion, the case is solved. What I do know is that Fred Goodwin walked into no. 11 Downing Street and said "we need all the money in the Bank of England, by 11:30, or the world will collapse". I paraphrase but still. This was the same Fred Goodwin that spent the previous 10 years destroying people he deemed inefficient. Part of our new coterie of financial overlords, who lived in the City and scoffed at anything that wasn't banking. Who said we all had to shape up, they blackmailed the country and spent no time in prison. This might make no sense in terms of history, it's what people think and some of them are still very angry about it. That's how we are where we are. Basically,
I am versed in Venezuelan politics as it is my country of origin. Venezuela failed not solely because of "socialist" policies or authoritarian figures, but because institutions failed and disappeared. Over 90% of crimes in Venezuela do not get prosecuted. All institutions from Supreme Court to Justice Dept. and military are sub-servient to a one-party regime. United States institutions continue to hold and most importantly, hold against the powerful. And they need to continue to hold and perform against media coverage, "optics" and politics.
@AstroGremlinAmerican
2 ай бұрын
America is becoming more like Venezuela every day, mostly in kitchens but also in how justice is meted out.
@johncooper6073
2 ай бұрын
Uncontaminated *
@johncooper6073
2 ай бұрын
Liverpool not canning
@Funko777
2 ай бұрын
@@AstroGremlinAmerican I mean tRump just got convicted of 34 felonies, lost a civil rape case, and has plenty more on the way. It's just taking forever and it's clear tRump has received some preferential treatment compared to us normies. Any regular joe would've been booked as soon as they violated one gag order and yet the orange does what he wants. His sentencing will tell us a lot, however. Unfortunately, he did plenty of internal damage to our system by stuffing in demonstrably corrupt supreme Court justices and lower fed judges who were all picked based on loyalty to him instead of merit or desire to serve the American people (in a somewhat objective way at least) Unless of course you're actually referring to the idea that tRump got convicted by a jury of peers in the first place and you're unhappy with that because he's really just a victim of the mean democrats and everything is rigged by illuminati jews 🤡 Hopefully it's the former, seeing as how I doubt many MAGA supporters watch this channel, but you can never be sure. Which is precisely why there is an obligatory clown....just in case.
@occamraiser
2 ай бұрын
They are being subverted constantly, and are proving to be as weak as kittens. No resilience and no courage. The courts are owned by bought and paid for fascists and the few honest judges are vilified and undermined because anyone can say anything in America...because America is STUPID.
RIP Iryna Tsybukh, Medic, Ukrainian, Patriot, Hero. Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava 🇬🇧
@diane9247
2 ай бұрын
🩵🌻🩵
@Funko777
2 ай бұрын
Putin will pay one way or another for all the evil bs he's done. As if Ukraine hadn't suffered enough under Moscow rule before Putler and his 1000 year Ruzzian reich came along
Hannah Arendt warns of the following: The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced nazi or the convinced communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (e.g. the standards of thought) no longer exist." The origins of totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt In comparison of the Soviet and Nazi regimes Hannah Arendth wrote in 1951 that factuality itself depends for its continued existence upon the existence of a non totalitarian world. The Polarization and Dichotomy of these people amplified by the media and their unshakable stupid belief of being right doesn't make the situation any better.
Sedated Vlad laying it down :D
@MLG552
2 ай бұрын
indeed. lol
@tiaretsnyheter6026
2 ай бұрын
Good one!
Vlad, thank you for this insightful video. I hope that your health is holding up.
Dearest Vlad, I can't tell how much I cherish your voice and the insights you bring to my heart and mind, thank you so much 🙏 I hope you recover swiftly from your procedure, and I can't quite believe you made yourself work for us, very naughty boy ;) Please rest and enjoy the remainder of your sedation. Much love 💕
@Davemte34108
2 ай бұрын
Well, I am here 4 hours after having chemo, listening. 😌 Rolling on the 10mg Dexamethasone train.
@beth7935
2 ай бұрын
@@Davemte34108 I hope it took your mind off things & you don't feel too rubbish, & I hope the chemo works. 🤗
@christinepereira7622
2 ай бұрын
@@Davemte34108 What a combo 🙏 Hope your treatments don't take too long and that they improve your health ❤
@JohnDoe-jd7oc
2 ай бұрын
Yikes ! Cda
@Davemte34108
2 ай бұрын
@@beth7935 Have my good days and not so good ones. So far seems to be working. 🙂
Regardless of whether you agree that Trump should have been prosecuted and found guilty, you should consider the moral aspects of Trump's actions He committed infidelity and then paid off the other party in order to silence her. He then attempted to cover up the payoff. These actions show that Trump has highly dubious moral core which lead to questions about his fitness for leadership In previous times (not so long ago) these series of events by a politician would have led to their resignation The fact that Trump acts with outrage at anyone who dares questions his actions and morals should be ringing alarm bells for everyone as it suggests that he is unwilling to be constrained by society's social, legal and moral framework
@jaarneal
2 ай бұрын
Agree. And from that perspective, I keep coming back to my feeling that this isn’t even in the top 10 worst things he has done (that we know about). That he finally gets convicted of a felony because of… this… of all things… is almost depressing. The whole situation is just so bizarre and it has this twinge of nihilism. It’s like 40% of America didn’t get the memo that we’re supposed to care about the conduct of our officeholders. I can’t believe how little I care about this conviction. A former POTUS and a major candidate in an election 6 months away was just convicted. I care about politics. I do research. I love to follow polls. And I still barely care.
@brunorivest
2 ай бұрын
" he is unwilling to be constrained by society's social, legal and moral framework" It might be part of the reasons why he's so popular.
@philjameson292
2 ай бұрын
@@brunorivest it doesn't say much for the right wing being protectors of traditional values
@krisvq
2 ай бұрын
What a nonsensical point of view. We should be ok with prosecution of people who committed no actual crimes because they refuse or by some other measurement don't fit within a populist version of an imaginary moral code. We know what this is. They're called blasphemy laws. And we made these extinct for a reason.
@IronHorsey3
2 ай бұрын
Do you know where Tara Reade is today? How about Joe Biden showering with his daughter? The US needs to rewrite law to prosecute Biden and his Obama shadow government.
Vlad, thank you for being a lighthouse in the vast sea of this thing we call social media. You always find the perfect way of putting into words exactly the feeling I'm having in my mind.
@heisner667
2 ай бұрын
It is uncanny and reassuring.
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
Grateful to have you.
@MercurialStatic
2 ай бұрын
If this is what you’re thinking, your mind may not be your own at this point.
@heisner667
2 ай бұрын
@@MercurialStatic hahahaha. Jungian.
@JohnDoe-jd7oc
2 ай бұрын
A little dramatic. Cda.
Ah, slightly stoned Vlad, an unexpected new look but I'm cool with it.
@chrisconn8751
2 ай бұрын
I could almost keep up 😂
This is what I consider heavy food for thought. So I need to listen twice 👍
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
Sorry if I am not making sense!
@moxie_ST
2 ай бұрын
@@VladVexlerChat You do , but I am in not so good position to compute your massage to, aka with family in town.
@heisner667
2 ай бұрын
This was a great post. These are complex concerns.
@MercurialStatic
2 ай бұрын
@@VladVexlerChat some might not be able to see it, but it obvious just by the words you use that you are a fascist.
@Davemte34108
2 ай бұрын
@@moxie_ST Well, I am here 4 hours after having chemo, listening. Rolling on the 10mg IV Dexamethasone train. 😎
I'm constantly surprised by hearing people minimize the actions of post-truth politicians. "Meh, every politician does that" - even people who don't like the post-truther's party.
Thank you for making provision ahead of time to be able to address us under less than ideal circumstances! Now get some rest and recuperate--you deserve all of this and more. May the procedures bear good fruit!
To counter post truth populist politicians there is a colossal need for credible and inspiring alternative political leaders able to move democracy forward by reforming the institutions and restoring their credibility. Very tall order.
@williambranch4283
2 ай бұрын
Leon Trotsky?
@anythreeletters
2 ай бұрын
I agree, but what reforms can inspire the people?
@williambranch4283
2 ай бұрын
@@anythreeletters Communist revolution ... until your usefulness is ended ;-)
@hivetech4903
2 ай бұрын
Wrong - horrible takeaway as it missing the point that "credible & inspiring leader" is a point of view. Trump was that person to a lot of people, and that thinking started this whole mess. The institutions have proven their credibility time & again, its only that gullible people keep believing lies from politicians who say they aren't credible - namely the now fascist Republican party and their alt-right supporters like Fox News.
@iv2sab512
2 ай бұрын
But the problem is that the Trump followers don't really want democracy. They just want power. They want to have their way. If that means getting rid of democracy, they're more than happy to do it.
As much as we need our democratic institutions to hold and continue functioning, we need the same of our justice system. Pressing forward with this trial and conviction is the only glowing ember left on the smothered hearth of the entire judiciary. If we’re willing to sacrifice equal justice under the rule of law -in exchange for the mere chance of a return to political norms and de-escalated partisanship - then the political institutions we’re struggling to save are meaningless trappings hung upon an entirely failed constitutional self-governance and irreparably broken social contract.
@marty2129
2 ай бұрын
How do you deal with situation when pressing trial is the only way to maintain equal justice (or at least equal-ish justice, because if it was anyone other than Trump they would be already found guilty and sentenced by now), and all of it knowing full well that third of the country won't accept the result?
@JAllenKaiser
2 ай бұрын
@@marty2129matters of law are not subject to public opinion polls. If they are allowed to become so, they cease to be matters of law, and become matters of PR, politics, and worst of all: propaganda.
@JAllenKaiser
2 ай бұрын
@@marty2129 matters of law are not subject to public opinion polls. If they are allowed to become so, they cease to be matters of law, and become matters of Public Relations and political advertising.
@marty2129
2 ай бұрын
@@JAllenKaiser Ok, I may have misunderstood your initial comment, I thought our opinions about the trial differ. (I am not a native English speaker, sorry.)
@JAllenKaiser
2 ай бұрын
@@marty2129 oh, I’m sorry too - I can see how my mixed metaphors could be confusing, especially to a non-native English speaker.
The only reference to Trump's phenomenon that I can think of is the Red Scare of the 1950s. McCarthy's fall was so severe that it hasn't been until Trump that we've experienced such subversion. Given Trump's narcissism and age it may be a while for someone else to succeed at his game.
Vlad, thanks, one of your most important posts. I mean you're right, 9:32 that if a large part of the electorate "doesn't believe in the integrity" of a part of Democracy's institutions, then democracy _is_ broken, and a top priority is to fix (change) this, and to also _say_ that it is a top priority. We've been taught about the main ingredients of a well-functioning democracy (eg in school) but we didn't learn that those institutions _do have to be trusted otherwise they are not functioning_ . (Even if they actually are!) - Worth a repeat listen!
@iv2sab512
2 ай бұрын
But a large part of the electorate doesn't believe in the integrity of the vote because of the "post truth" (lying) politician that spread the lie about election fraud. Also, the GOP doesn't actually want to fix democracy. It just wants to rule, democracy and the rule of law be damned. I think we understand the problem, but I think we still lack a solution.
The US AG waited way too long to bring Charges against Trump which is a big mistake.
@rachelatwood9555
2 ай бұрын
Garland is useless
@Todd.B
2 ай бұрын
@@rachelatwood9555 I wouldn't say useless, to mild mannered and cautious to meet the moment is probably a better description. I've always thought Biden made a mistake in appointing Kamala Harris as VP, she could have served our country so much better as AG. She could have met the met the moment.
@mendez704
2 ай бұрын
Actually, I will say the Justice System in general took too long to bring this criminal to justice. Trump has raped women, falsified business and personal records (to avoid paying taxes) and scammed thousands of people for many decades, and they allowed to get away with it. It was only when he became a threat not only to democracy, but more importantly, to a great part of the establishment, that they decided to do something. And of course, even that, they did late.
@tomrecane6366
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@IronHorsey3
2 ай бұрын
It takes time to manufacture lawfare and Trump hadn't announced he was running. Don't be upset by the lack of Stalinist efficiency. They are working to recreate new ways to abuse the civil rights of Americans every day.
I was elated to learn that my brother and his son, my nephew are subscribers and fans. Wow! Great minds think alike. Even so, we are in awe of your intellect and discernment.
excellent analysis. I live in CA, USA and the damage is irreparable and it is continuing.
I don't think that all of the audience are going to know the ship in the bay metaphor. I do because I give teacher an Apple every month and sit on the front row, but some of these stragglers from other six-forms might not.
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
💛💛💛💛
I've seen Trump supporters complaining that the prosecutors were "biased." How do you even start with someone like that?
@jva4120
2 ай бұрын
You don't start on that point because it ends 5 seconds later with you saying "mate you're a moron". And then you've lost already.
@alantyndall85
2 ай бұрын
There was a supporter outside who dry heaved after the verdict and then joined a fellow Trump fan to claim the verdict didn’t count for unstated reasons. It’s not what’s true but how it makes you feel.
@danlindy9670
2 ай бұрын
I think Vlad said you start by (1) categorically opposing a post-truth populist, (2) saying that you agree democracy is under threat, and then (3) say that we all want to fix it for everyone. There is no benefit to arguing with unsupported opinion based entirely on emotion; you just make it clear that you disagree.
@mikecaetano
2 ай бұрын
Ask them how it is that they came to believe that it's never Trump's fault and always somebody else fault in case after case after case. The dear leader can never fail but only be failed!!!
@brandonheinz2635
2 ай бұрын
because the Prosecutor Alvin Bragg was running for office on the platform of putting Trump in jail. this was before the case was even brought. so yeah I'd call that bias.
I also wish that all four indictments had come 18 months earlier and not faced all these crazy delays. However, one has to know how much it takes to put a legal case together on the part of the proscecutors. The delay is largely down to people who support Trump in the legal system.
About the reality show targeting the plebs, I would argue I was very surprised that the jury concluded the verdict in such a short notice, since it required all jurors to agree on it, I thought there is at least one MAGA supporter, who would stop the process for months. That basically makes the case almost unarguably justified.
@AstroGremlinAmerican
2 ай бұрын
Does it? OJ was found not guilty.
@quintrankid8045
2 ай бұрын
"t required all jurors to agree on it," I read the jury instructions and I think this isn't quite true and it will probably grounds for appeal.
@Nils_Ki
2 ай бұрын
If all jurors agreeing to convict is a reason to appeal, no conviction will ever be able to stand.
@unconventionalideas5683
2 ай бұрын
@@quintrankid8045 Nah, it is. They must all agree that he committed business fraud, at least partially in service of furthering at least one other illegal activity/action. They might not have to agree on what that illegal activity is or whether the accused, in this case Trump, may have had motives that did not involve other criminal activities, but they must all agree that he committed business fraud at least partially in the service of furthering at least one other illegal activity/action.
@quintrankid8045
2 ай бұрын
@@unconventionalideas5683 Yes, they don't have to agree on what that illegal thing was. This worries me. I want juries to decide on crimes unanimously. I think the appeal is going to be interesting.
Thank you for this, Vlad. As always, I hope your audience grows to include top-tier decision makers. Where I live, people like me are surrounded by Trumpists who are impossible to penetrate with ideas other than their own. I try with all the empathy I can muster, because some are truly decent people. But very, very cultish and wind themselves up to scary levels. I can't take much of it.
Vlad’s argument on Jan.6 is so important. Trump supporters are in control of the argument. If we are arguing based on there lie, we have already lost.
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
Both sides are lying about Jan 6th. Maga was lying or deluded about the election being stolen. Their political opponents lie about it being an insurrection, that police were murdered, or that agent provocateurs were not instrumental in stirring up the Riot despite the amount of video evidence.
@Funko777
2 ай бұрын
This MAGA crap is causing immeasurable amounts of psychological damage to this country. I feel I've been taking crazy pills since 2014. Between him, his MAGA trolls, and Putin's trolls also fanning the flames of misinformation and manipulating competing narratives...the end result is not good. So many people have already lost their minds because of what are essentially conspiracy theories...it's unreal. It's some serious Orwellian crap mixed with Joseph Goebbels propaganda playbook.
Regarding the need to prioritize democratic preservation, unfortunately that well has also been poisoned, at least in the realm of vote counting. Reps claim the threat is illegal voters voting and put forth policy to suppress minority/Dem vote -- some arguably legitimate (voter ID), some not (gerrymandering, placement of polling stations). Dems claim the threat is voter suppression and put forth policy to make voting easier. The very causes of distrust are polarized.
No idea why you think the democrats wouldn’t acknowledge the win of the republicans if it happens. What do you base that assertion on? The difference between the two parties right now is presumably exactly that the democrats would acknowledge the passing of power to republicans
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
That’s partly why I am making the point. There will be a fairly pervasive view that Trump is not a legitimate president because he is out to destroy democracy. Moreover, that view is not entirely wrong, as I explain.
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
No idea why? Gaslighting right there. Did you not see and listen to how Democrats and their supporters led by Mrs Clinton quietly conceded the 2016 election, then for the next 4 years loudly called the results illegitimate and poisoned the discourse with the giant Russiagate hoax
@Funko777
2 ай бұрын
@@VladVexlerChat while I totally agree with your point on overcoming this situation with depolarization topics and genuinely like the (hopefully) cooperative discussion this would lead into....it does somewhat rely on both parties to be rational and coherent. Unfortunately, that's just not typically what we see in the US with the minds of MAGA people, especially the true believers and not just the ones toeing the party line or trying to keep up appearances for fear of being called a fake. tRump has made it his mission to stuff as many "true believers" (cultists) as possible into the highest positions of authority in US politics. Mainly the two blatantly corrupt supreme Court justices and federal judges who will no doubt protect him from accountability in any way they can. Even with these people who are supposed to be lifelong professionals driven by a desire to serve their people in an objective way, we instead see them with the same willingness to be rational or rooted in reality as a homeless person screaming at ducks in the park. Based on conversations I've had with those that "drank the Kool aid" within my own family and those Ive met elsewhere, facts and trying to relate to their desires for the country result in just more insanity and unhinged delusions. 2+2 doesn't equal 4 anymore, it equals conspiracies, paranoia, fear, hate, selfishness, etc. I guess my point is, how can you depolarize when there's just seemingly nothing left in there? The total disregard for reality is what scares me most because once that happens there is no talking, no middle ground. You're seen as part of "them" and an enemy forever onward.
@AvB2106
2 ай бұрын
According to Hillary Clinton, Trump didn’t win in 2016 and is illegitimate. In 2004, Bush stole Ohio, according to a bunch of Democrat officials. Not to forget 2000, of course. The republicans caught up with this election denying nonsense, and Trump exploits it like there no tomorrow, as he’s doing with everything. I really do not respect the view that somehow Trump is this singular wrecking ball to the institutions of the US, when he is the reaction and logical consequence of so called „liberals“ in the US of undermining the legitimacy of the Supreme Court, the entire judicial system and the fabric of society by claiming that the US is inherently racist. Trump is a figure created by the American left and the entertainment complex who in his late days turned against them and is, to a large extend, a reflection of the left on the other side. So I am not surprised that he is hated as much by them, because he is their mirror image.
@shannonjane7373
2 ай бұрын
Writing from the USA--Hillary Clinton did not accept the 2016 results. She still doesn't. She and President Carter always called Trump an "illegitimate President" who only got in because of Russian interference. Many Democrats refused to accept the 2016 results--remember not my President and the massive "p-hat" protests. Also the BLM rioting and violence was a rolling leftist protest. Do you believe "police brutality" has ended under Biden, or is massive rioting reserved for when Republicans hold power?
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ to you Vlad
Although I tend to agree on political ideology classification Trump poses a unique threat to the world [dis]order as we know it. It's like the swiss cheese theory in reverse. Thanks to it's unique sociopathic personality, an extremely grievances consumed media environment, the inherent echo chambers of social networks, this man defies the social gravity law every single day. It's insanely depressing...
For being stoned, you’re holding it down. I swear to god your cadence is actually quicker.
@MercurialStatic
2 ай бұрын
Dude probably is doing this so he can get medical care. Imagine your life depending on you lying every single day…
Thank you, Vlad. 👍
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
I hope that you recover very soon Vlad. Much love.
There is a corollary to the Big Lie rule. The lie has to be one that many people want to believe.
I agree about the productive approach when discussing political opponents. I.e. not just saying the other team is bad, but reviewing how we can make the system better for all. But I struggle to see the way in which we actually get to the step of deliberation. Do you have any ideas? Oh, and keep up the good work and get well soon!
get well soon, Vlad! Lots of love 🌈🦄❤️❤️❤️
11:00: The problem with this approach is that that the cultists will answer that question with “make Trump president, that’ll do it and nothing else”.
@AstroGremlinAmerican
2 ай бұрын
Calling the opposition "cultists" shows a messianic conviction of similar depth.
@vaclavkrpec2879
2 ай бұрын
@@AstroGremlinAmerican No, it’s just calling them what they are.
Good to see you Vlad! Hope you are well! Just passing through, haven’t watched much on here in a long time.
Vlad: "(...) I am still sedated from a medical procedure." Also Vlad: "... therefore I decided to get in front of a camera." 😂 -> It's always good to see you, Vlad. Hope you're well :)
I understand and agree with Vlad's point about opening a conversation with those who 'hate' us -- "You think our democracy needs to be fixed? Great, so do I. Let's do it together! Now what needs to change?..." In principle, I agree--this should happen. In practice, however... if you already have a situation in which so many (a majority perhaps) of the people think that 'they' (those we hate) are the problem, how can we even bring them together to start this conversation? Each side already distrusts the other and does not want to grant them even the possibility of being sincere in their desire to improve the situation. Each side views the other as The Problem that needs to be solved ("it's not our democracy, it's YOU!"). This already being the case, for millions and millions of people, how can it change? Convincing Trump supporters and Trump haters / Biden supporters and Biden haters to sit down and make a plan for the future appears implausible. How do you suggest that we go about implementing that?
@yisraelmeirsobel907
2 ай бұрын
One thing he talks about is local organization and politics. The idea being, you use a less polarized setting, where there is much more obvious common interest, to build trust and citizen solidarity in order to later work on the more difficult issues.
Vlad always there to better my politics even when ill! Brought to mind Lincoln's "Better Angels of our Nature." Unfortunately, it feels as if we need a politician of Lincoln's caliber to navigate this properly.
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much.
@heisner667
2 ай бұрын
I thought of Lincoln also while listening. I also thought of Gettysburg.
@Davemte34108
2 ай бұрын
@@heisner667 Will be 80 in a while, raised by my grandparents mostly by grandfather after I was 5. He was a WWI vet, Aircraft Maintainer in France 1918. His grandfather was a Civil War vet, Iron Brigade of the West, 19th Regiment, Indiana Volunteer Infantry. He talked about the experience's of his grandfather during and after the war. He was of the opinion that the war was never properly resolved and we were still living with the consequences.
@AstroGremlinAmerican
2 ай бұрын
@@Davemte34108 A bunch of lawyers worked out the "peace" after WWI.
@heisner667
2 ай бұрын
@@Davemte34108 I agree. It is a challenge we have been with. I think we are stronger together. I hope we will be stronger after these times.
We need to get back to the ability to "agree to disagree"
Thank you for the thoughtful perspective. I, however, will need more explication I think to better understand it. Please
Thanks Vlad, I love how you calmly expose both post-truthists and media neglecting them. This channel is my safe haven amonst all the dirty noise of social media.
One of the most puzzling arguments I have heard about Trump's recent conviction has been that "there is no way he could have gotten a fair trial in NYC". Todd Blanche (his lead counsel) was saying that he was "too notorious" in NYC to be tried there because of "his presidency, candidacy, and The Apprentice (lol)". This type of argument boggles my mind... is there anywhere that Trump isn't notorious? Why does it matter if he only received 8% of the vote in southern manhattan? I genuinely don't understand why a well-regarded (or at least well-educated) lawyer would think there's legal backing to have him tried elsewhere if the crimes he committed where in that district. This argument opens up a whole can of worms... if a liberal black guy gets arrested in a conservative, 90% white county should he not be tried in that county because "there's no way he can be tried amongst a jury of his peers"??? I really just don't get it.
@davidmurphy7332
2 ай бұрын
It’s because there is now a perception - not necessarily a reality, though- in the US that you’re either for Trump or against him. And it is a binary, not a spectrum, so there’s no nuance or exploration of people’s attitudes towards him
@alphaclam
2 ай бұрын
Because people like Vlad have convinced the public that Trump is a Hitleresque authoritarian that is going to "destroy democracy." People are so misled about him that many think he will round up and murder millions of citizens if elected, serve extra terms, suspend rule of law, etc, which is ridiculous. If you thought you were standing in the way of Hitler, you would vote to convict no matter what because any means necessary are valid to prevent such evil. Interfering in the election, lying to the public, weaponizing the intelligence agencies are also valid -- people have engaged in such activities for the same reason they have convicted Trump.
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
Have you ever served in a jury? It's unnerving how swayed people are by their preconceived bias and emotive narrative rather than just the admissible evidence. It's troubling in politically polarising times, but it's not baseless
@acetyl4088
2 ай бұрын
@@PjRjHj Well sure but every other trial functions the same way. Are we supposed to call every other jury verdict a disgraceful sham because biases exist? This example is the epitome of how Trump is cultivating an anti-conservative "tear it all down" culture with no substantive solution other than autocracy and cult of personality. He's eroding trust in every system other than his office and image. It's grotesque.
@quintrankid8045
2 ай бұрын
Do you think that a change of venue is never appropriate? Why not in this case?
Thanks Vlad. Its true , a slice at a time eventually leads to loss of democratic process
Thanks for this perspective. I’ve been trying to get people to see this crucial distinction of labeling something accurately vs finding solutions. The former leads to the latter but isn’t the latter on its own. People often say “we’ve labeled correctly so why don’t you agree? And if you don’t you must want some terrible thing.” We’ve given up on persuading in our democracy.
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
Sounds like you are trying to persuade while cutting a fundamental corner that is trust. If i understand correctly, the former Wiki boss was arguing the same point on a TED talk and ended up being slain throughout the online space because she had not gained the trust or recognised authority of people at large.
@Niko-hs3ls
2 ай бұрын
@@PjRjHj building trust is part of persuasion in my view. You can persuade people long term by showing trustworthiness and earning their trust over time through demonstrated actions.
Hysteria that Trump causes in his oponents is something that helps him to win.
@beth7935
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's got a lot more to do with emotion than facts & logic... like, we're all emotion-driven, but I think people here are at least aware of that, & at least try to interrogate our opinions to see what emotions may be driving them.
@PierredeCur
2 ай бұрын
The only hysteria I see is among Trump cultists. The problem is rather the contrary: that most regular people - everyone except his cultists - do not realize the danger he poses to democracy. It's very similar to what happened with Hitler.
damn, you're more awake when sedated than me after a 8 hour sleep. Hope your health gets better.
I often make snarky remarks about you political commentary and sometimes about you. But I want you to know that I wish and pray for your good health and happiness. I might deem your political analysis wrong, but you are a human and a good one at that. I wish you to be happy and healthy.
Pretty darn good for a sedated guy!❤️
Stay strong Vlad. Appreciate your thoughts.
Democracy requires an educated and informed electorate. Those who propose 'universal democratic governance' as some sort of a panacea to plutocratic forces, fail to apprehend how easy it is for a plutocrat to appeal to the worst sensibilities of the poorly educated and informed, and thereby poison the language of compromise, which is a precondition of democracy. If an individual voter feels that government power structures are 'rigged' against them, then cooperation and compromise can never occur. That would be an existential non-starter. The main origin of this populist groundswell is very simply the government bailout of the financial system after 2008. When the average person knows that if they go bankrupt, they get closed down, but then they see the largest financial institutions in the world propped up, this abrogates the democratic order's unspoken social contract. It makes them realize that the plutocracy is about protecting power, not creating a system of fair play. Thus, there is little incentive to be reasonable. Instead, the tendency will be to tear down the social order that protects the plutocrats. This is where the populist 'post-truth' emotional reaction comes from. Media are controlled by plutocratic forces, and push whatever propaganda that their owners demand. It is incredibly difficult to remain informed, even with multiple degrees, when the available information is curated by a press that pushes specific narratives, and colludes with those in power, simply because that is who pays their salaries. Post-truth isn't just about the populists. It's also about who is paying the journalistic 'fact-checkers' who want to be the arbiters of what 'truth' even is.
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
Education didn't prevent Nazism in Germany, nor toxic hyper-identitarian progressivism in the Anglosphere
@kentalanlee
2 ай бұрын
@@PjRjHj Excellent point, that one cannot prevent polarization at either end of the political spectrum by education alone. However, I think Vlad's point here was that, it is important to be INFORMED about what sorts of argument WILL WORK in an environment where outside influences seek to further inflame polarization. Addressing the REAL CONCERNS of those who are impassioned by either extreme, is a valuable tool to try to encourage engagement and buffer the dehumanization of political opponents which often results. To further the chemistry analogy, we have to understand how to buffer the radicals, as it were.
@some_phantom2599
2 ай бұрын
The very idea that the financial system is somehow disassociated with the savings and employment of ordinary people seems absurd to me. The financial crisis could have become a much deeper recession, with countless random innocent people losing their lifetime savings, if no bailout had occurred. The real failure was the failure to communicate basic economic reality effectively and convincingly to the general public, which opened the door wide to all manner of alternative populist narratives. Obviously it didn't help, that few of the governments that were in power at the time had a cohesive interpretation of the situation and seemed to be trying out remedies on a trial and error basis. If Lehman Brothers had been bailed out (by diluting their stocks with government funds - in effect partial nationalisation) accompanied by a commitment to let no major borrower default on its debt, and a strong message to the public that partial nationalisation was the best way to keep everybody's savings safe, 2008 might not have undermined trust in democracy to the same extent!
@kentalanlee
2 ай бұрын
@@some_phantom2599 Perhaps. But a simple antecedent action could have prevented even that necessity. Things were allowed that should not have been. I might offer the observation, that repeal of Glass-Steagall was evidence of the capture of American democratic institutions by rogue plutocrats, more interested in their own speculative ventures, than the safety of the global economy. Because they wagered, correctly as it turns out, that they could leave tax-payers holding the bag, when and if it all fell apart. The fact that even at this late date, the original GS legislative safety mechanisms have not been put back in place, is more damning proof that the populists are not wrong in their distrust of the powerful hidden world of government and finance. If we want to create trust in the social contract, and fight post-truth extremism, then we must make sure that government holds the same rule set for plebeians and patricians. Fighting post-truth populism isn't just shutting them up or shutting them down. It's finding the source of their motivation to tear things down and removing it.
@kentalanlee
2 ай бұрын
@some_phantom2599 Perhaps. But a simple antecedent action could have prevented even that necessity. Things were allowed that should not have been. I might offer the observation, that repeal of Glass-Steagall was evidence of the capture of American democratic institutions by rogue plutocrats, more interested in their own speculative ventures, than the safety of the global economy. Because they wagered, correctly as it turns out, that they could leave tax-payers holding the bag, when and if it all fell apart. The fact that even at this late date, the original GS legislative safety mechanisms have not been put back in place, is more damning proof that the populists are not wrong in their distrust of the powerful hidden world of government and finance. If we want to create trust in the social contract, and fight post-truth extremism, then we must make sure that government holds the same rule set for plebeians and patricians. Fighting post-truth populism isn't just shutting them up or shutting them down. It's finding the source of their motivation to tear things down and removing it.
Thanks Vlad 😊
The "political bookies" have been wrong for years though. Polls are often taken by calling landlines. Who has landlines and is willing to pick up for a survey? If you said older people, you win a prize! Older voters are far more likely to support Trump, the problem is that they are not the only ones voting. Polls have been extremely bad at reaching middle aged and younger voters and this makes the data they gather unreliable.
@unconventionalideas5683
2 ай бұрын
Older voters these days seem to overwhelmingly support Biden. The issue is that they have lost the pulse of the middle of what most young people think, and no longer weight demographics correctly because of the effects of COVID and disparate vaccination rates, mask wearing, and a whole load of other factors, too. Furthermore, more younger folk now have spam call blockers, and when they do not, they still refuse anonymous telephone pollsters much more than historically. There may also be design faults elsewhere. So what does that mean? Not much, other than that polling is unreliable.
Now that News is considered a revenue source the idea of balancing news is subordinated to views and clicks. Not like in ancient times.
Just study what happened with Berlusconi, and you will probably get what is going to happen with Trump. Trump is basically the United-States-American Berlusconi. The main thing would be comparing the Italy's and United-States' jurisdictions to guess if the latter will fare any better than the former.
Thanks so much Vlad...even with the sedation you are on point and very informative. It´s going to be a long road to November.
@Vlad- you ALWAYS make sense 🥰
Very good Vlad, this is the right path. Cheers!
Less emphasis on linguistic elegance and more on real world coherence would help if the goal is indeed to expand awareness of certain issues rather than approval from those already in the know. Just saying.
A deeper look at post truth lies. How they effect the individual. How to understand and fight them. Would be beneficial.
@iv2sab512
2 ай бұрын
It's like a cult. It's very hard to break through to someone once they've joined.
Brilliant analysis, as usual. And wise advice to boot. I´d like to see you do (or link to) a short history of post-truth philosophy and politics.
Thanks, Vlad. I hope you recover okay.
The democracies need to institute laws that make every social media channel liable for the accuracy of their content. If they can't or won't police content then let them go to the wall.
I find this extremely interesting and "promising", but left wanting a "Part 2". I selfishly, but also compassionately, wish you well, and hoping you rebound and return for more in this vein. Take care!
Thank you
twenty, twenty, twenty-four hours to go...
We'll get better at it. Practice makes perfect.
Great content as Vlad. Thank you.
Watch the polemic graphic of BR24 in which Putin is presented as "Papa" (the pope) with the header: Why the West does not deal with Putin on his call for peace..."
Very insightful! Thank you
@VladVexlerChat
2 ай бұрын
My pleasure.
The ad before your video was for Lawrence Fox's entrepreneural Reclaim Media 😅
Good and important message at the end. Thank you Vlad.
Great analysis, fithing fire with fire will not just get everyone burnt, but also only rewards pyromaniacs. Thanks and get well soon.
Vlad is the smartest cultural commentator I’ve come across! It’s hard to navigate this world when humans rely on narratives to understand events yet need capacity to understand the meta-narratives at play. That’s uncomfortable.
Thanks for your discussion on this topic Vlad, it's extremely important and also fascinating. I feel the acceleration of media and ease of access to them lit the fuse on this post-truth trend we're seeing now.
Wonderful and inspiring! Thank you, Vlad
I need this Vlad
Hello Vlad, Nice to see you again. It’s been a while. Really enjoyed listening to you today. Take care.☮️🇨🇦
Thanks!
I loved your closing statement Vlad...you are a legend !
Vlad has correctly distinguished between form and content, between the outward husk of the legal system which judged Trump technically guilty and the living, breathing reality of millions of disaffected citizens for whom his toxic message continues to resonate.
@AstroGremlinAmerican
2 ай бұрын
That Biden is even running has deprived Americans of an alternative. He's not healthy, and Kamala Harris . . . remains silent and laughs at us.
i love you Vlad stay well, be blessed, and share your truth
Hmmm..., I think it would be a serious problem to continue to rely on easily broken/ignored norms instead of laws with teeth.
Eyes like saucers ... hope you are well, Mr V.
Good episode
8:45 even if Trump wins, he will deny the legitimacy of the other side
Wishing you a speedy recovery, dear Vlad. ❤ Still, I am struggling to get what the takeaway from your message would be for me. After all, post-truth actors usually would not even feel that democracy is something worth preserving....
LOL. Good post. You are just as sharp, sedated as you are not. get better, we are pulling for ya.
Thanks
"Populist," used to have a positive connotation. In fact, there was even a US presidential candidate (W. J. Bryan) who ran as a Populist, literally the name of the party, in the late 1800s. I heard Nancy Pelosi using the term as an insult recently, and was fairly confused!
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To me it’s all about learning how to deal with narcissistic abuse on societal/political level. It’s the same mechanisms as on a personal level: Slowly creeping in and progressively destructive for a society, i.e. the MAGA-cult or the c-PTSD state of the Russian population. General awareness and legislative tools need to be upgraded in order to be able to effectively deal with this kind of crime. Thank you for your thought provoking vids.
One of the political facts of lincolns government is the passionate love the army had for him. If hed sent soldiers to arrest Taney the Supreme Court Justice they would have obeyed. And the mikitary is the ultimate sanction of pitical power.
5:08. Obscure truth. Is this because there is a 'greater cause' that requires it?
"Meditations of a Sedated Philosopher"
maybe they are on the front stage right now because they are difficult to deal with using reason and logic
@NeistH2o
2 ай бұрын
I think that yes those politicians are appealing to many with lies and populists rhetoric, but i think they also bolstered a lot the general knowledge (of politics, institutions, etc) and the critical thinking of their opposition
One of your best posts ever (I know you have covered these themes before). How do we turn this into an op-ed piece for the major newspapers?