Waterproofing Curbless Shower --- New Flo FX Membrane!!!
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Tile showers that have a curbless or barrier free entrance need to have the waterproofing extended out 12" past the threahold of the shower. In my opinion, sheet membrane is better than liquid applied membrane in shower pans for a three reasons:
1.) You do not need to wait for the mortar bed to dry before applying. It can take up to a week to for a mortar bed to fully dry before you can apply liquid membrane.
2.) You do not need to worry about correct rate of application or thickness of sheet membranes.
3.) You can tile over them immediatley and don't need to wait for the 2 coats of liquid to dry.
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Your mom is definitely proud. Keep up the good work, Isaac.
You are that kind of person that got the natural talent to communicate Thanks you I'm admire you
My man your videos rock, thank you so much for doing them and for sharing them. It's really appreciated.
This video couldn’t have come at a better time. Im installing my first curbless shower using the hydro ban system and about to waterproof the floor. I have taken much inspiration and knowledge from your channel. Many thanks if you see this comment
The vapor drive part is something commonly overlooked,glad you touched on it,keep rollin brotha 👊🏼
Sorry for your loss, mate. It never gets easier does it.
She is watching you! God bless you, brother.!
Best to waterproof the entire bathroom floor for curbless showers in my opinion (looks like the crack isolation in this video also serves that function). This will protect the floor in case of water wicking vertically through the thinset/grout and offers a little insurance if the drain backs up since there is no barrier to keep the water in the shower.
@EtreTocsin
Ай бұрын
But the sheets are 78 inches wide. So do you tape / band the joints?
@tofuroshi
Ай бұрын
@@EtreTocsin you can transition to a roll on membrane or use Ditra with banding to waterproof the room
I watched tons of your videos before I did my bathroom it came out great,3x6 curbless shower a soaking tub with a schluter heated floor in the entire bath plus the shower and bench after watching your videos I used the Flo-fx drain and all schluter waterproofing and all set and because I’m a beginner I hit all the exposed thin set with Hydroban THANKS for all your knowledge.
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Great stuff as always brother. Thank you 🙏
Amazing work!
New subscriber. I’m learning a lot. Thanks for the video!
Nice work brother!!
Thank you for all the work and effort you put into your videos, tests, and tips. You are make me and the industry better! You have also inspired me to start doing my own testing and improve my efficiency. I have a question regular 😮installing waterproof membrane instalation and lapping. It seems to me it would make more sense to install the membrane on the shower floor first, then do the linear corner strips onto the floor, followed by the corner prices and finally, the shower walls. If the wall membranes were installed last, the water shed would be better. It always bothers me that the overlap invites water in if the linear strips and corners are installed last. Am I overly worried about this? Is the bond and seal of the membrane on membrane overlap so good, this is a non-issue? My other question on membrane is; when installing them on shower walls, can I use the NoFlo large sheet, start at one corner, and work the sheet into the corner without cutting it and continue on to the other walls without cutting the corners? Just thought it would prevent a lot of potential failure points and eliminate vertical corner strips. Am I missing something?
TileCoach, we're building a shower just like this right now. Two actually, but only one is curbless. We used white 8+9 changes it up a little bit. When you waterproof with 8+9, you gotta wait 3 days to waterproof for the pan to dry, they say. But that blue flo fx membrane and the branding they do on it, is slick. I mean, prep is fun. Try to get this stuff as tight and precision as possible then tiling is fun and turns out better.
that extra wide width is a great option 👍
Kirk for the win! Please pass on the good luck!
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Another great video Isaac. I've watched a lot of your videos and notice you use a lot of different products. Is it because of different styles of showers, or are you just always testing new products that you think are the best? As of now, what system would you recommend to a DIYer with some tile experience to use for a walk in shower? You mentioned in this video how the tile redi system is good for DIYers, but I'm wondering why you wouldn't always use that? Is it a price difference for your clients? Thanks for the great and helpful videos!
Did I miss the brand of thinset mortar? I am guessing its Versabond by Custom?
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What other trade that has so much to do with finished looks and luxury has so many bad jobs outt there? Ur right we should all strive to change that. We have to EVEN out the number of good tile installers. Prevent whoever we can from failing.
after putting down your deck mud and how do you work without disturbing the sand, is that what your panels were for over the cardboard?
Could you please tell us more about the crack isolation? What is the brand? Is it just a liquid or is it a liquid and a membrane? Thank you!
Do you do anything to the walls past the band? Thanks
I purchased densshield for my shower walls and ceiling . Should I tape and waterproof each seam and screw or will thinset over these areas be sufficient?
Do you ship to Canada? Unfortunately, we do not have awesome products like FLOW fx here. The best we got is Schluter, however, I don't really trust them much anymore after following your channel for a few years. Hope we can get these products out here asap!
What do you use on irregular angle corners that aren’t 90’s?
Are you running the wp membrane around the room perimiter?? It doesn't take much for water to roll to the edge if the room....
This highly modified thin-set fall under A118.15? Improved Modified?
Wouldn't sheet membrane first then bands and corners running on top of it be a better system? You mentioned it briefly. It might be easier ( nicer to your floor) if you do the corners and bands first, but that system seems like it could fail with all the gravity feed water running down the walls. Any thoughts??
How do you stop wicking from the shower tile to the rest of the floor tile? Hope I am describing the question adequately.
curious about the flood test on this? how?
What thinset are you using to put down the sheet membrane? You talked about it but I didn't catch the name.
Wouldn’t it be better to add the banding then the corner pieces on top of the banding?
How do you finish that corner without cornerbead on?
In my opinion the waterproofing should be throughout the bathroom if it's curbless, the big problem that no contractors explain to customers is when you have a toilet backup it's going to flood the lowest points first, so the curbless shower makes a guaranteed flood any time the drain backs up even a little bit, which I've found almost none of my customers snake their drains preventatively they wait till the flood to fix the problem, pretty stupid if you ask me...
What thinset did you use?
Great video! What wall board did you use and the black joint liquid membrane?
@suspicionofdeceit
Ай бұрын
Looks like Everbuilt or KBRS.
Make a guidline on the outside edge with a center mark and trowel the thinset then you just have to line up the outside edge and the mark and drop the sheet *edit This way you can run the membrane up the wall easier also Yes im still watching atm lol
I thought that non-mod thinset is used between 2 impervious layers because the mod thinset won't get enough air to dry/cure. Whereas the non-mod thinset uses the trapped moisture to cure. But you are using the mod-thinset to do the corners and the banding which is membrane on membrane??? Thanks
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You used to promote Ardex 8 & 9 quite a lot for shower waterproofing, so I've used it on my pans and bottom 6"-8" of my shower walls. You don't seem to mention it anymore, so was there a problem you ran into? I'm not a fan or RedGuard, and Mapeis Aqua Defense comes apart with thinset on top. Please advise. Thank you.
@TileCoach
Ай бұрын
8+9 is great stuff!
@garrett8073
Ай бұрын
@@TileCoach Thank you, Isaac
Go kirk!
You said that you’re using a “highly modified “ thin set that doesn’t allow moisture to penetrate but you don’t use it to set tile. Why not?
What does the lifetime warranty actually cover?
@johnwhite2576
Ай бұрын
Word-has anyone actually recovered on warranties from any of them-Schleuter,laticrete, etc.
@gallardo360
Ай бұрын
means nothing. try and get a warranty and get the runaround 😂
Can I use these banding and corners with Schluter shower pans instead of getting ripped off by Schluter?
@eltonnoway7864
24 күн бұрын
Yep! Not a problem. Mixing and matching membrane and banding, corners etc. is done all the time... no big deal frequently. The only problem or issue would be if you try to file a warranty claim down the road. All of these companies will deny a claim if they find evidence you married, mixed or matched their product with another brand.
I still like the bruce jenner method of installing pan membranes better. IYKYK
@randyperkins4188
Ай бұрын
The tuck
Hey I wanted to sign up for your $900 float class. Are you no longer doing that??
I don't think you ever called out the thin set make and model? Maybe I missed it
@nailbndr9869
Ай бұрын
pretty sure it's multimax lite, he has been using it in the past and from what I saw, it had the same consistency as the multimax... it's really creamy and super sticky
How do you water test a curbless shower?
@eltonnoway7864
24 күн бұрын
By design, if the slope is correct (2% or 1/4" per foot) water will migrate to the drain. In a curbless with the drain plugged you simply fill the shower pan up to the point where it would be just short of overflowing into the bathroom. Granted, with a curbless system the water level might not be 2 or 3 inches deep like it might be in a curbed shower but that's not an issue. After filling the pan area, just measure the depth of the water over the drain at the start of your flood test and check it again in 24 hours. e.g. At start of testing, if you start measure 3/4" of water over the drain... and still have 3/4" of water 24 hours later... you're golden.
You didn't state the thinset details. I'm big on prolite from custom for that work.
@TileCoach
Ай бұрын
Mapei Keraflex Super, Laticrete 254, customs flex bond all would be good choices
@ct9040
Ай бұрын
@@TileCoach How about Mapei large format floor and wall tile mortar?
Why can't you use an extra 4 inches of the floor membrane to put on the wall instead of the band?
@michaelkiley5658
Ай бұрын
He answered that at 7:30
@Vlad_Kharchenko
Ай бұрын
My bad 🤭 thank you!
@tilecoach can you tile over tile.. I'm extremely concerned.. I don't have the money to hire another contractor to redo the shower.. I just hired a contractor and its costing me 12k to convert the tub into a shower and they used kerdi board and then "water proofed" it... the mosaic tiles on it look like a roller coaster and they are saying the mortar will fix it.. but I know its not pitched properly. 1 foot around the drain looks like a huge valley to where the drain is, but the drain is actually like 1/4 to 1/3 inch higher than the tiles.. and the floor mosaic tiles by the walls look like they are on angles.. They say I'm not a contractor and don't know what I'm talking about.. just to trust them which I don't.. I know they don't have 95% coverage behind the shower tile as I'm able to see behind it as well.. Not sure what to do.. I contacted another contractor who stated it would be 10-20k to redo the job. I wasn't sure if I could cover their floor tile and tile myself with a proper pitch to fix it? I have no idea what to do and a 10-15k job is now going to cost like 30k if I have to a pay a second contractor to redo the work of the first one who still hasn't finished.
It would have been nice if Issac identified the thinset he's using in this video (or even a comment in information section)... instead of just saying at 4:20 "This is my preferred thinset". In one of his replies to a comment when asked he simply stated: "Mapei Keraflex Super, Laticrete 254, Customs Flex Bond all would be good choices" (which still doesn't pinpoint what he's actually using in this video). Just a guess but based on its color and consistency it "looks like" it might be Multimax Lite, which he has demonstrated, used and praised in a few of his past videos.
@mankatovalleyseed8557
2 күн бұрын
I belive he's using Laticrete MultiMax Lite. He's recommend it in other videos for it's insane amount of polymers stating that impedes water penetration. I have never used that product because it's not available in my town. I ended up order it directly from Laticrete on Amazon. I'm going to do some test with it and some NoFlo membrane and see how I like it. It's super spendy, so I hope it's good. I paid $155 for 2 bags delivered.
9:45 Please, do not ever let your tail come out.
Im surprised you haven't came out with your own products yet Isaac. You can have a manufacturer OEM all of that stuff for you and keep the money in your pocket. Just sayin! You work too hard not to havw your own brand. Why give all your money away to the companies that have 1500% markups? Lol
@mikedelmonte255
Ай бұрын
To each their own ! Pretty sure if he would like to have his own product he would done it. He’s an artist, a tile / shower installer and that’s what he love. I don’t see why going in a business already full of different good options and have less time to do what you love.. He probably have good discount for showing up on his channel too! Just my 2 cents
@MAGAMAN
Ай бұрын
KZreadrs making their own products usually results in terrible products.
@RawTakes
Ай бұрын
@@mikedelmonte255 100% to each their own. You would absolutely make a ton more if you had OEM make your product. I won't share what i fully know, but Im in business to make money and one day not have to set tile either...can only make so much just installing.
@RawTakes
Ай бұрын
@@MAGAMAN the difference is he isn't a youtuber..and he wouldn't be "making" anything. That's what a manufacturer is for 😂...I can clearly see Im on a different level business wise as practically everyone that sets tile. Lessen my competition by a long shot, no problem with that!
Got nothing but hate from this channels viewers. Wow