Water Cooled vs Air Cooled Harley Milwaukee Eight

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In this episode I compare my water cooled Road Glide with my Air Cooled Street Glide to find out how effective the systems are with managing engine heat. I also mention a product from DK Customs that helps to lower the temps of air cooled Harleys.
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My Motorcycle(s)
2018 Harley Davidson Road Glide Ultra
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My Cars
1966 Ford Mustang Coupe
2012 Ford Mustang GT500

Пікірлер: 90

  • @mcblackradio
    @mcblackradio Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for taking the time to break down the differences.. had a 2019 RG 114 too heavy for my age lol now back on a 2016 RG 103

  • @zaccleary8488
    @zaccleary848811 ай бұрын

    This was very informative, and I really like the details that you went into

  • @pavelk2092
    @pavelk2092 Жыл бұрын

    Good video! Straight to the point with facts and details. Thank you sir!

  • @HDVIBE
    @HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on hitting 2,000 subscribers. Very interesting results. Thanks for sharing. Ride safe. 👊👍🇺🇸

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, you too!

  • @mr_sinister
    @mr_sinister Жыл бұрын

    Great video and great techniques for comparison. Always good to provide good knowledge and real-world tests and results to those who wouldn't necessarily do these things themselves. Also, congrats on 2K! One point of information on the type of oil allowing the engine to run cooler. I race bikes and have built and run race motors for quite some time. All of my race motors run synthetic oil. The heat generated is two fold. 1. The actual combustion processes, and 2. The friction heat produced by moving parts. The synthetic oil "seems to be" a bit slicker, allowing parts to glide more smoothly past one another. Most importantly though, as you mentioned in the video, synthetic oil is able to retain it's lubricating properties at higher temps. What this means is, as we are running engines harder and harder, the potential frictional heat load increases. This increase will heat the oil as well. At those higher temps, conventional oil can begin to lose its lubricating properties and allow greater frictional heat load. This will heat parts, and heat the oil and in turn, make the bike run hotter. Synthetic oil will retain those lubricating properties as the motor is running harder and will assist in keeping the frictional heat load down. So, is synthetic oil necessary for all engines, maybe or maybe not. Does it have definite "pros"? Yes it does. Also, synthetic oils maintain viscosity for longer periods if time for most users. Just my $.02

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! I don't race my bikes so I don't have your experience. However you described it very well. I can see how synthetic oil is vital in that particular use. The biggest heat issue I run across is traffic jams.....the bike can get very hot in stop and go traffic.

  • @GlidingOnTwos
    @GlidingOnTwos Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on 2k subs. Well deserved 👏🏾 👍🏾

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro!

  • @lexustech48
    @lexustech48 Жыл бұрын

    Simply put, you keep the combustion chambers cool you can run more compression and timing. More compression and timing = MO POWA BABY!!!!

  • @MrCRM2011
    @MrCRM2011 Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy your show you put out some good information. I purchased the seat lock and I am very please. Thanks for the advice and keep up the good work. I hope to catch you on Beale Street Bike night

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! Weather permitting, I'll try to make it this week

  • @hd_av_traveler1495
    @hd_av_traveler1495 Жыл бұрын

    awesome video as always

  • @redpillcopinthephilippines9647
    @redpillcopinthephilippines9647 Жыл бұрын

    Outstanding information bro, ride free brother!

  • @PoppaDRides
    @PoppaDRides Жыл бұрын

    Man Cue, I completely forgot to congratulate you on 2K subscribers. That's awesome, Way to go Brother.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro! Safe travels on the Mile Marker Zero trip!

  • @deepinthecutwiththeemonty
    @deepinthecutwiththeemonty21 күн бұрын

    Well done, dope video 🤙🏾

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    21 күн бұрын

    Thank you! I am working on a few other heat test videos. Stay tuned!

  • @WhatsUpBob
    @WhatsUpBob Жыл бұрын

    wow! 100deg difference! My Vrod is watercooled, and without a doubt, in stop and go city traffic, I can tell the engine is definitely cooler than my air cooled Heritage

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    By the way.....I finally pulled the bike stand out! I'll make a video and show you what I did!

  • @WhatsUpBob

    @WhatsUpBob

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RidingandWrenching awesome! looking forward to it!

  • @specialedpresents713
    @specialedpresents713 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the subscribers Cue! You might pick up "FLUKE" as a sponsor too 😀 (I have a laser thermometer like that too) I never thought about using it for that. Great idea!

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Test your tire temperature after you ride....it's interesting!

  • @Bagrman-kt1ot
    @Bagrman-kt1ot Жыл бұрын

    Great video👍, here in FL . I need all the cooling I can get on bike🥵🥵🥵. I ride a 17 ultra .. keep the vids coming.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Will do!

  • @PoppaDRides
    @PoppaDRides Жыл бұрын

    Very good interesting Cue. Did you have the vents on the lower fairings open or closed? I wonder what temperature difference would be when running slow speeds for 5-15 minutes, as in stop and go traffic or a parade.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    The Lowe vents were open on both bikes. I keep the vents open on the SG all the time since air flow is required to keep the engine cools

  • @KrakensGarageandAdventures
    @KrakensGarageandAdventures Жыл бұрын

    I agree Cue, I don't believe that synthetic runs cooler. It just has a much higher tolerance to heat before it break down. Great job Cue.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    I have always thought the "run cooler" claims were a bit dubious.

  • @bentronparker5441
    @bentronparker5441 Жыл бұрын

    Good information

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @Mamneth
    @Mamneth Жыл бұрын

    Howdy, Great Video. The reason I'm researching this is because I am thinking of purchasing a Trike from HD and find that of the 3 models available this year, only the Tri Glide Ultra comes with the Twin-Cooled version of the 114. Now I am not a fan of Fairings & Tour Packs, and would be more than happy with the Freewheeler with a windshield, a passenger backrest, and a luggage rack and buy a Garmin GPS for the handle bar, but I do believe that the Twin-Cooled version of the 114 would be more durable than the Air Cooled 114. The only thing I can think of doing is purchasing the Tri Glide and start Stripping it down till I'm Happy, and selling the leftovers on ebay...

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it depends on the type of riding you will do. What I learned from my experiment is that there are advantages to the Twin Cooled AND Air Cooled. Technically, the air cooled has 2 cooling systems: air and oil. Add a fan, and you should be fine in most circumstances. I've been stuck in traffic with my Twin Cooled Road Glide and it gets HOT!!

  • @mtdover
    @mtdover Жыл бұрын

    I'm trying to find a good headlight for my 2016 Road Glide Ultra. Can you do some headlight performance reviews? Stock looks good but the visibility at night leaves alot to be desired.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Will do. I'll try to get a couple more lights then I'll do a shootout between all of them

  • @JustGKue
    @JustGKue Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on 2k subs brother! 100 degree difference is huge. My next bike will be an ultra limited. Harley should definitely move to twin cooled on all touring bikes. Possible if they start putting the revolution max engines in the bike.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro!

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    @old man strength I rode thé Challenger in Daytona last year

  • @joaomauriciobasiledesouza6204
    @joaomauriciobasiledesouza620410 күн бұрын

    Seeing this bike so close to this amazing car with that gorgeous shiny paint gives me goosebumps. I’m here like, please man don’t touch that bike and make it touch the car. 😅😅😅 That is too close.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    10 күн бұрын

    So far so good! I have 3 bikes crammed in the garage.

  • @joaomauriciobasiledesouza6204

    @joaomauriciobasiledesouza6204

    6 күн бұрын

    @@RidingandWrenching Big Brazilian fan here, love your videos. Keep it up! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @bradlozano2571
    @bradlozano2571 Жыл бұрын

    On my TC 103 i added a Jagg Vertical Mounted Oil Cooler...It makes a difference here in the Hot Central Valley of Cali....Your right...Synthtic Oil has a higher temp rating before it breaks down...Ive checked my oil right after riding in 100F plus temps...Mineral oil has turned to bubbles vs Synthetic not...Only thing i dont like is more valve train noise...

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Great feedback! I wish I had done this test before I changed the oil on the SG. I run synthetic in both bikes

  • @bigdog3495
    @bigdog3495 Жыл бұрын

    There are after market fans available such as love jugs that blow air across the top of each cylinder head. They claim to reduce temps up to 50 deg I believe

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    That will be my next heat test.

  • @edoardo734
    @edoardo734 Жыл бұрын

    I want to bike a 2016 road glide ultra, is it possible remove the lower fairing and the cool sistem?

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think you can. It's probably best to start with a Special and build it up to the bike that you want.

  • @joepaige2056
    @joepaige2056 Жыл бұрын

    Great info!! Is there a link for the device you used to measure the temperatures?

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Here is a link. I thought I had put it in the description....but I forgot! Thanks for the reminder amzn.to/3RIIgrl

  • @richardrrondeau8319
    @richardrrondeau8319 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video about wet heads I'm in my mid 80s have a dina lowrider got some moter work 107 wet heads done by shortblock Charlie. Heat was. To much for my old body so I installed some wet heads with a pair of radiators on the engine guard hoping it will run cooler not worred about appearance just cooler riding. Using late model water pump let me know what you think young man. Rick erie pa.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow! I didn't know you could convert them. You may also want to add a fan to help manage the heat. Riding in hot weather or getting stuck in traffic isn't fun on any motorcycle...you still feel the heat

  • @GIJOE573
    @GIJOE573 Жыл бұрын

    I test rode a road glide limited while wearing jeans and half calf leather boots and my right foot felt like it was being cooked inside my boot, no burn marks so I don't think I could have been brushing the exhaust

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    You can definitely feel the heat coming from the lower fairings....but it depends on your leg position.

  • @joshmumaw857
    @joshmumaw857 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on 2,000 Subscribers. It’s ironic that you mentioned oil. I used Lucas Full Synthetic in my first bike. I wasn’t really impressed with it. So when I purchased my second bike I used Mobile One full synthetic V-Twin oil. So far I’m very happy with it. I don’t know if it actually matters.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Now that Harley has been called out on their warranty, you may see more people trying the Mobile One.

  • @joshmumaw857

    @joshmumaw857

    Жыл бұрын

    Ok so I guess I hadn’t heard. Could you please explain to me about them being called out on their warranty?

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshmumaw857 I saw a few videos where Harley will not automatically deny warranty claims due to using non-Harley parts. I have been told that I'm the past, Harley frowned upon using "non-Harley" oil.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshmumaw857 I haven't had any problems with any of my bikes, so I don't have any personal experience to share. Honestly, I don't worry abt warranty issues.....but maybe I've been lucky!

  • @joshmumaw857

    @joshmumaw857

    Жыл бұрын

    Ok. Well both of my bikes were out of warranty. So I don’t have any experience with Harley Warranty. But I own my bike. I’ll do what I want.

  • @harryhowell5644
    @harryhowell5644 Жыл бұрын

    All I've ever owned were water cooled m8s. A 17 ultra limited and now a 21 road glide limited. The oil pump is different for the water cooled and air cooled m8s. My 17 oil pump failed. 21 so far so good. They said the gears in the water cooled oil pump were smaller.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn't know that! Good info!

  • @TheWhitneyfam
    @TheWhitneyfam Жыл бұрын

    My 21 road glide limited is dual cooled. I tell my riding buddy's those radiators aren't for the bike. They are for me and her I feel way more comfortable on the bike long distances Hot or cold. I can control the temps by simply adjusting the lowers. Bike is a 21 bought in Aug has almost 9800 on it now.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    That's some good riding. It's actually nice in the winter having the heat blow on your legs from the radiators

  • @derfskittlers6125
    @derfskittlers6125 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting stuff. Im gonna say, your temps lower on the engine are more precise. Its the oil you want to measure. Using those guns on shiny surfaces can give wonky temps. Maybe try putting some painters tape where you point the gun. Measuring oil temp might be the best way to measure. Just my two cents. My question for you, since you ride both bikes, how is the "felt" temperatures on your legs?

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Great question. I have 85,000 miles on the Road Glide and only 11,000 on the Street Glide. I've been stuck in traffic several times with the Road Glide and it got HOOTTT!! I've never been in traffic on the Street Glide, so I don't have a good comparison.

  • @makyto1
    @makyto14 ай бұрын

    Do you think that the after market oil cooler work?

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    4 ай бұрын

    I've seen positive things about them on other channels (Cycle Fanatix and Kelly B Gliding). The concept makes sense to me. I don't have a high power motor, so I'm ok with what I have. If I can get my hands on one of those systems I'll test it and compare it to a stock setup

  • @makyto1

    @makyto1

    4 ай бұрын

    @@RidingandWrenching thanks so much for the info! 🤟🏻

  • @Nottoday3033
    @Nottoday3033Ай бұрын

    Which one is better to sit on traffic?

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Ай бұрын

    I'd have to say the water cooled.

  • @03roadking
    @03roadking Жыл бұрын

    You have Jim's Force flow fans it replaces your horn and it has a horn integrated into it they're the best

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow! I didn't know about that one. I was planning to get the fan from Harley, but I'll look at other options

  • @noelsingletary
    @noelsingletary Жыл бұрын

    Nice Mustang! Looks like a '65.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a 1966. Tahoe Turquoise. I am the second owner. The original owner used this as her daily driver for abt 40 years!

  • @Bagrman-kt1ot
    @Bagrman-kt1ot Жыл бұрын

    I hit sub button an bell.. 👍👍👍

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!!

  • @andrewpadgett2367
    @andrewpadgett2367 Жыл бұрын

    I know first hand my liquid cooled night rod ran insanely cooler with amsoil full synthetic over Harley’s oil. I could keep my hand on the side of the fins below 100 ambient Fahrenheit with amsoil. Harleys I couldn’t 5 mins after riding in any temperature. If you believe better oil could offer better protection meaning less friction then that would equal lower temperatures. I’m an amsoil believer wish I could afford it in the 5.0 but 10 quarts 😅

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    I guess I will have to find out for myself! I will try Amsoil in my next oil change.

  • @JayyBird93

    @JayyBird93

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RidingandWrenchingwhat were your findings?

  • @tomdavis3038
    @tomdavis303810 ай бұрын

    I personally love the simplicity of air cooled but, that said, the realities of traffic make water cooled easier to live with in a daily basis

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    10 ай бұрын

    Well said. Air cooling is very effective for keeping these engines "cool" while the bike is moving

  • @icuabc1235
    @icuabc1235 Жыл бұрын

    The radiators are just another problem, I live down a gravel road.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    ouch!!!! The oil cooler would suffer the most hits on a gravel road

  • @RealSuperRando
    @RealSuperRando Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a great channel. Always good information. The music while you are talking makes it hard to listen to you. A little overwhelming. Just saying.

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback, I will turn the volume down on the music in the future.

  • @freddieweimann3602
    @freddieweimann3602 Жыл бұрын

    Liquid cooled👌

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    Жыл бұрын

    It makes a difference! I didn't realize how much of a difference until I purchased my thermometer.

  • @eddiefoy5909
    @eddiefoy59092 ай бұрын

    Turn off the music!!

  • @RidingandWrenching

    @RidingandWrenching

    2 ай бұрын

    I no longer use music in my videos.

  • @layheavyfatboy1186
    @layheavyfatboy11862 ай бұрын

    I like Harleys but Victory was way ahead of the game !

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