I love how Ozzy subverted the whole episodic comic villain trope He wasn't going to be thwarted by a lack of planning or allowing the good guys to have a leg up or chance to win, he did his plan, and THEN he gloated, like a proper mastermind

@limemobber

2 жыл бұрын

But he still failed as Rorschach had sent proof to a newspaper if I am remembering correctly.

@TinyBitMouse01

2 жыл бұрын

@@limemobber Uh, no? Rorschach got obliterated by dr man Hattan, because if truth got out, total war would happen

@nameisme9727

2 жыл бұрын

@@TinyBitMouse01 Prior to them going to Antarctica, Rorschach had sent his journal with his findings to a newspaper. The movie ends with ambiguity as to whether or not that journal gets looked at, though.

@limemobber

2 жыл бұрын

@@TinyBitMouse01 He sent his journal before he left.

@TinyBitMouse01

2 жыл бұрын

@@nameisme9727 ah thank you, I will say, who knows how much information that could destroy the world is in that journal, I'll have to review the comic to see if they also left it ambiguous

I never understood why Rorschach mask has an image of my parents fighting

@ducklaser

2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant.😆

@GypsiAAA

2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit that was good 👍🏼😭😂

@JorgeBraceroPR

2 жыл бұрын

Oh that is just brilliant

@conorbowen3360

2 жыл бұрын

@@JorgeBraceroPR Reminds me of the joke "I don't know who this Rorschach guy is, but he sure likes drawing naked men."

@elliotjames5172

2 жыл бұрын

Geez dude, it doesn't, the images on his mask are what you interpret them to be. It's not actually your parents fighting.

I remember when I first saw this scene. "I'm not a comic book villain. Do you think I'd explain my plan if there was even the slightest chance you could affect the outcome." Me: Said every comic book villain ever. "I triggered it thirty five minutes ago." Me: Oh...well that changes things.

@rumandraisin7928

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao saaaame

@abigbutterstick1780

2 жыл бұрын

That was just brilliant writing. Something no one expects.

@wetnoodlex

2 жыл бұрын

"Oh... well I turned them all off thirty minutes ago." "Oh."

@MMTrigger

2 жыл бұрын

Just like he did in the original comic.

@Bogdan221192

2 жыл бұрын

@@MMTrigger there it was space alien monster, i liked it cause it doesn't blaming dr Manhattan, but did not liked it cause, come on, space alien thing? Thats just ridiculous.

God I love that line. "I triggered it 35 minutes ago." Thats just the freaking best ever. Finally a movie villain who does it right. Its right up there with the bomb exploding when the timer hits 5 minutes. :p

@FacemanGaming108

2 жыл бұрын

Even the Blue God cant stop his plan.

@JoshuaHerman

2 жыл бұрын

It’s in the original comic but yea it is so epic

@Spookssga

2 жыл бұрын

In this Universe the bad guys win 😅

@elyastoohey6621

2 жыл бұрын

"movie" villain. You mean the graphic novel villain that was written like 20 years prior to the movie entering production?

@SirBigWater

2 жыл бұрын

@@FacemanGaming108 Not that he can't, but probably doesn't want to

"I'm not a comic book villain." *Every reference to Ozymandias in the Watchmen comics disappears*

@missbelled6700

2 жыл бұрын

"I'm not a comic book villain. I'm a graphic novel villain, there is a difference you know."

@yeetwchybaban

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@bananabatsy3708

2 жыл бұрын

Insert Osbourne's "I am something of a villain myself." line.

@rud5101

2 жыл бұрын

Ironically, that would be extremely fitting considering the original Ozymandias poem

@magic4478

2 жыл бұрын

@@missbelled6700 Is the same bullshit

When he’s sitting there letting Night Owl punch his face in, you really understand how “big picture” Ozymandias was thinking. It doesn’t matter if an individual dies, it’s about world peace to him. He doesn’t care if he’s one of the “millions”

@malikhaidar

2 жыл бұрын

it's hard to be burden with knowledge and capability. it's like the hardest choices requires the strongest will.

@mftripz8445

2 жыл бұрын

@@malikhaidar lmao you kidding me ? Special forces in the military usually all have higher then average IQ

@jacobharris2792

2 жыл бұрын

@@mftripz8445 source?

@MichaelMorenoPhilosophy

2 жыл бұрын

@@malikhaidar literally quoting Thanos to justify the actions, wild.

@Kncperseus

2 жыл бұрын

Read his comics backstory - he took up crimefighting after his girlfriend overdosed on drugs. He was truly at a point beyond selfishness

Nite Owl: Killing millions Ozymandias: To save billions Thanos: That gives me an idea

@BrokenSIMGlasses

2 жыл бұрын

Thanos be like killing trillions, to save trillions

@TheMcGrath2001

2 жыл бұрын

Zack Snyder is the blue print

@pwnorbepwned

2 жыл бұрын

Killing trillions to save other trillions

@sumankhatua3835

2 жыл бұрын

Oh come on don't bring marvel shit everywhere

@Shawn_White

2 жыл бұрын

Nite Owl only killed 1 out of every 1000 people.

"The world's smartest man poses no more threat to me than does its smartest termite."

@charlesyoungblood9414

2 жыл бұрын

In my timeline he says 'ant'

@destroyerblackdragon

2 жыл бұрын

In order to save the colony I had to trick it.

@JM-us3fr

2 жыл бұрын

What’s funny is that he’s absolutely right, but Ozymandius still wins.

@abigbutterstick1780

2 жыл бұрын

@@destroyerblackdragon Antz reference?

@mignonthon

2 жыл бұрын

yeah but he beat Dr manhattan, practically without a fight

I never will understand why this movie did not received nominations and awards, this is probably the best comic book movie.

@Lite727

2 жыл бұрын

Literally what I said

@FlashEarth89

2 жыл бұрын

Because it’s not the lame people’s style. Too many lame people today prefer to watch cheesy movies like Ghostbusters female version, Terminator Dark Fate, and Batwoman

@CarlosReyes-sk1zs

2 жыл бұрын

Is the best,no doubt about it.

@patrickblackwell777

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed 100%

@wyattnguyen6323

2 жыл бұрын

it was ahead of its time and way before all the superheroes movies hype . the theme is also too dark . why marvel did so well with their lighter and juvenile theme.

Explaining your master plan after the fact. I always imagined a true villain would be like this but I never thought I'd see the day when writers actually implemented it.

@elliotjames5172

2 жыл бұрын

It's a different kind of story, one that is far too rare. Most movies are about the hero overcoming the villain and everything feels good and blah blah, but when the villain has a point this compelling, he/she can be allowed to win, and really it makes the rest of the heroic movies look like a sandbox compared to the gravitas in this ending.

@tgmelinda7544

Жыл бұрын

Russia did something similar..

@jonathanlipp3213

Жыл бұрын

This is a line from the comic, written in 86 almost 40 years ago

@sixjhontongalamar979

Жыл бұрын

He's most definitely the villain that will have bomb explode while still having 5 min remaining on the timer

@MenachemSchmuel

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanlipp3213 Anytime anyone says something like "why don't movies/books/comics do this" or even "why isn't anything good anymore," there's a 99.9% chance they just don't bother trying to find good media and just watch the biggest hits, which by design are made extremely generic and are for 8-16 year olds who will drag their parents to see whatever Cool Thing is on

As much as I wish the giant interdimensional squid had been a thing in this movie, the choice to frame Doctor Manhattan is a good one as well. I mean considering he goes along with it he knows that it's both best for humanity and it frees him to leave as no one will ever want his help anymore.

@RoastedPheasant

2 жыл бұрын

@R B Well ACKSHUALLY the squid monster is teased earlier on in the comics. Ozy hired a bunch of biological scientists to design it, and then he assassinates them too.

@shadewolf0075

2 жыл бұрын

@R B well it was actually from our world and it had the cloned brain of a power psychic in it that's why it's scream after ozzy teleported it killed so many

@tenkenroo

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t make sense if dr Manhattan leaves. In the graphic novel ozymandias in addition to formulating the scientists to genetically engineer the squid for decades used his massive amount of resources to do a propane campaign to show extraterrestrial life could be possible

@SmarkAngel

2 жыл бұрын

He's an American agent. He's been the dominating instrument of American will in the setting for decades. The squid worked because it was a new, neutral threat that America and the USSR would both have to be ready for. Well now, America's superhero went nuts. There would never be peace around that.

@TheFinalGate_

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmarkAngel yeah, thats why this framing dr manhattan dsnt work, shoulda kept the squid

All of that, and yet Henry Kissinger still manages to be the most evil person in this scene

@S.D.323

10 ай бұрын

lol

@nelsonaraujo86

9 ай бұрын

True

@TheDeadmanstrolling

7 ай бұрын

Only one in this scene to be still kicking, too!!

@edwardnygma9040

6 ай бұрын

the fucker is still alive too

@ConfusedRevolutionary

6 ай бұрын

Apparently not anymore. Thank god.

The two victims that hugged before they went out....that's what gets me. Strangers embracing the unknown...unfortunately that was death for them.

@EpicFail7777777

Жыл бұрын

I watched the movie first, but when I read the comic it really got to me, and I can't recommend it enough. You spend time getting to know all these regular people in the city, seeing how they interact, caring about them, then in a moment they are all gone, killed

@TheNEOverse

11 ай бұрын

@@EpicFail7777777 It also forces you to actually confront the monstrosity of the act. Its not a noble thing and its utterly horrific. Evil, even if done for some noble end, is still evil.

The one villain that DOESN'T make the typical blunder of shooting their mouth off about their plan before acting on it.

@matthewallen2273

2 ай бұрын

If I were a villain, there's no way I'd be able to resist taunting them as they try and fail, seeing their efforts in vain. He'll, I'd properly do the anime thing of explaining my overpowered abilities just to make them feel despair the hopelessness of it all. It reminds me of old saying I half remember: of a gun I ever held to your head, hope that their evil, they'll take their time pulling the trigger, enjoying the act. But if they're good, they'll just pull and kill you on the spot. For Ozy, he was the good guy in the fact he didn't enjoy it. The completion of the goal itself is what he wanted.

I love that, while dedicated to his beliefs in his plan, as he explains it you can see the weight of his actions on his face. He's not all "I'm saving the world! Don't you understand?!" He knows it's sick, but he knew it needed to be done.

@heyhoe168

2 жыл бұрын

I wish we had same villain in reality. Modern politics marches to WW3 out of pure greed.

@justascarecrow6988

Жыл бұрын

@@heyhoe168 I really do not want to be turned to specks of dust by them. Sacrifice is a powerful thing, but being sacrificed kinda sucks.

@heyhoe168

11 ай бұрын

@@MrBud85 nope, he is an average greedy politic.

@MrBud85

11 ай бұрын

@@heyhoe168 he's more than just that

@heyhoe168

11 ай бұрын

@@MrBud85 believe me, he is nothing more. Product of the system and result of the time. Brother in capitalism, btw.

I love how depressing the realization of this scene is. We’ve been building up the entire movie for this moment as they’ve been bringing the team back together and traveling all the way to the poles to fight for the lives of millions. Then to finally reach there and have all that hope crushed in an instant when you realize that they lost before they even arrived. It really shows how unfair the world can be at times as there really was nothing they could have done, even for Rorschach’s death as none of them combined could stop Dr Manhattan from killing him.

@williamwoolf8072

Ай бұрын

no. if they had stopped him billions would die in ww3, no one expected them to save anything. you clearly went into this movie with the wrong mindset. the movie frames roroshach as a flawed person who you should not be rooting for.

@tylerwroblewski2716

Ай бұрын

@@williamwoolf8072 This may have stopped WW3 temporarily, but it is not a permanent solution and only delays it. Making a bigger bad exist will only work for so long before war starts again, it’s just a flawed attempt by Ozymandias which sacrificed millions of lives for a temporary solution that doesn’t even address any of the real problems of the Cold War. Also if Dr. Manhattan actually cared about humanity, he could easily solve all of lives problems from ending world hunger and poverty and so on, but instead he lets the Cold War brew hotter and hotter and just dips after an easy band aid fix is put over it because he wasn’t doing anything to help. Rorschach is obviously flawed, but he is obviously meant to be rooted for more than Ozy or Manhattan as he can see how bullshit and insane this solution is and how people deserve to know the truth for while a large population of people were just killed. It reminds of Thanos wiping out half of all life to stop them from getting to the point that they run out of resources, which is obviously a flawed and temporarily solution to deal with a much bigger issue, just like here. TLDR: No man should have this type of power to make a decision like this, and even if they can this is a horrible solution that is temporary at best, which is why Rorschach was trying to stop it.

The moral dilemmas and implications of this scene and movie are astronomical. Ozzy killed millions of lives….and yet he saved the world and all the rest. So that millions more could be born and live. Does that make what he did right? No……and yes. Right and wrong is sometimes too simple. And this is one of those times. Fantastic story and movie.

@Anarchizer

2 жыл бұрын

He was wrong. If people would kill themselves then that moment could not be avoided. Ozzy just simply delayed what was coming anyway. The only salvation for humanity is expansion towards the stars.

@kegginstructure

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anarchizer - But even expansion to the stars only staves off the inevitable. Mankind, to save itself, must somehow divorce itself from its own evolutionary heritage. We must breed out our violence. What Ozzy did was AT BEST deferring the coming war. But given Rorshach's journal and its probable fate, act two of this little tale becomes considerably more problematic.

@cookeatliverepeat8815

2 жыл бұрын

So he never watched Star Trek , then he would understand the true meaning of life.

@frankcoley1537

2 жыл бұрын

The Moral to this story. As smart as he was he was so ruled and controlled by fear that he let fear dictate all of his decisions. He had no way of knowing if either side would launch a nuke, so out of fear and I guess Hubris he did it himself. He was so smart that he could of figured out an alternative. Sick man.

@Anarchizer

2 жыл бұрын

@@kegginstructure He prevented humanity to face consequences.

So it probably isn't that big of a moment to most but I really liked when the two guys who I assumed were complete strangers in their final moment hugged eachother for comfort not wanting to feel alone before the inevitable death they saw coming. Truly no hatred but fear and comfort in moments of pure humanity

@DagothWit

Жыл бұрын

I can only assume you haven't seen the movie. The young guy would come to the older guys news stand and read comics.

@lj5190

Жыл бұрын

@@DagothWit Correct. I don't remember if the theatrical cut showed much of that, but the extended director's cut does, including the animated pirate comic segments that the kid was reading.

@UndairgaAerith

Жыл бұрын

If you read the comic they fight like cats and dogs always arguing but seeing each other everyday and there's many scenes in transition where the two of them talk while the newspaper highlights what the heroes are doing this scene shows humanity at its finest two people who argue everyday but care about each other becoming family in the face of death. Beautiful writing

@MCVessels

5 ай бұрын

As far as I'm concerned that's kind of the most important panel of the comic. It's the contrast between two shlubs who aren't even friends really, but in the final analysis recognise that we only have each other and how we are together in the here and now, and a group of high-minded superheroes, some godlike and some deranged, carrying out terrible acts of violence because they want to make the world a better place. There's a question running right the way through Watchmen, implicitly dropped by Rorschach at the start: is the world worth saving when people are capable of so much evil? And with these last few seconds of a pair of unimportant people, the coin seems to finally come down on Yes.

Ozymandias: "I'm going to kill millions to save billions." Eren: "I'm going to kill billions to save millions."

@IwinMahWay

2 жыл бұрын

Paul atreides: I'm going to kill billions to save bazillions

@mikeycarrero6501

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@theelement_c6684

2 жыл бұрын

Quantity vs. Quality

@maru-sen9792

2 жыл бұрын

More like "I'm going to kill billions so that the thousands that are left have a real reason to exterminate millions".

@TsunaXZ

2 жыл бұрын

Only to be stopped by the power of friendship

I really like how they adapted the interdimentional plant thingy from the comicbook into the energy blast produced by Dr. Manhattan. It was a clever move that simplifies the plot while making it make more sense within the context of the story.

@dan7291able

7 ай бұрын

i agree, its the rare occasion a director "tweaked" an ending of a source material.... only to actually make it better, crazy really

Man, I would have to be *extremely* confident that it would save billions before even beginning this secret plan. Just goes to show how meticulous he is

@smbsuperfan271

2 жыл бұрын

I would say Diligent rather than Meticulous.

@stevegoldstein3402

Жыл бұрын

With it being the major cities all over the world, pretty sure it would be billions. His math must not be so good.

@JM-us3fr

Жыл бұрын

@@stevegoldstein3402 He didn't say he blew up _all_ cities, and for his goal he only technically needs to attack cities on opposite sides of the Cold War. Tokyo has 14 million (probably far fewer in that time period), but the population of most-populous cities drops rapidly. So I could see the total casualty count being less than 50 million.

@bunsenn5064

Жыл бұрын

He’s quite literally the smartest man alive, of course he would’ve considered that.

@Chris_Sizemore

11 ай бұрын

The movie didn't drop the final line that the graphic novel did. Ozy was extremely pleased with himself when Dr. Manhattan showed up to announce he was leaving. Just as Manhattan teleports away he says "It works, for a time." Then Ozy has a mental breakdown as he realizes his plan only delays things and he can't do the math to justify his actions because he has no idea how long his "peace" will be kept. One of the hardest hitting parts of the Watchmen is that by the end of each characters story you realize each and every one is screwed harder than the last one. With Ozzy being the hardest because he did it to himself.

millions must die billions must live

@lukethekuya

10 ай бұрын

It's over

@kabbablabba4073

10 ай бұрын

the watchmen have fallen

"Do it? Dan, I'm not a Republic Serial villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago."

@willasproth

2 жыл бұрын

Comic book not republic

@NeoCreo1

2 жыл бұрын

@@willasproth That’s the original quote from the graphic novel

@willasproth

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeoCreo1 is that true

@NeoCreo1

2 жыл бұрын

@@willasproth Yeah, the movie changed it to “comic books” because they weren’t sure modern audiences would get the reference (“Republic Serial” refers to old pulp films from the 1930’s)

@willasproth

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeoCreo1 wow, what an interesting fact

Ozymandias is one of the greatest villains ever. My absolute supervillain of all time. Criminally underrated. Mathew Goode deserves so much appreciation for this.

@davidocampo8997

2 жыл бұрын

I think he is an antihero,,, his purpose was to save humanity from themselves, even Dr Manhattan knew the world was going to end soon, sacrifice millions to save billions is a good trade

@catisreckless4647

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't really call him a villain. One of the points of the movie (and comics) is that good or evil are relative.

@kjaerdian7864

Жыл бұрын

agreed, memorable performance indeed

Ozymandias is such a smart character. He breaks the cliche of Bond-like villains who, whether realize it or not, give the hero the opportunity to stop them with pointless exposition. Oz on the other hand says "fuck that" and elaborates AFTER he's already won. Genius.

@vincentmartinez8241

4 ай бұрын

He would have easily tricked Wanda (MSheU). Ozy truly is the smallest man alive in the Watchmen Universe!

1:00 i love how it says literally squid energizing, overshadowing the original impact in the comic

I’m glad they didn’t go with the squid monster. Framing Doctor Manhattan keeps Doc out of the picture and unites humanity. It was a simple change that really improved the story. Watchmen is a good film that came out at the wrong time.

@pacificll8762

2 жыл бұрын

I agree but don’t you think that not using an external threat like the alien monster and using what is basically a weapon of the US of A may actually generate conflict, against aforementioned USA ?

@widdershins5383

2 жыл бұрын

Technically the squid creature did the same thing, it scared the entire planet into unity because they were afraid an inter-dimensional abomination was going to return. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I’m on the fence, both could have been acceptable if done properly.

@nicholaskhanyola989

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly prefer the Squid Monster. I like the change to Manhattan and it works for the film but Manhattan was quite literally a U.S weapon and citizen for most of this film. People would be blaming the U.S for not keeping proper control of literally the single most power 'weapon' they possess. The Squid Monster works better because it has no prior affiliation, it was simply an unforeseeable disaster outside of humanities control, they don't know where it came from and when it would strike again which would work to unite humanity as they would come together against a threat outside of their own creation and control. I get why Zach changed it because he might have thought it was too dumb or didn't fit the tone but it really worked in the graphic novel and I'm sure it could work again but Zach already changed very important aspects of the graphic novel that it doesn't really matter.

@missbelled6700

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicholaskhanyola989 I might be totally off base but I seem to recall (or just imagined? who knows) that the squid got changed because it was difficult to fit in the interstitials of the boat in a way first time audience would be able to follow (which are sort of necessary scenes to keep the entire thing from feeling like a complete ass-pull).

@nicholaskhanyola989

2 жыл бұрын

@@missbelled6700 I think you might be right. I'd still prefer the squid to Manhattan but I guess that could be difficult to do within the story Snyder was telling.

Wow, an actually competent comic book movie villain

Best thing ever. No last minute saves, no excuses. It's done.

Everyone who supports ozymandius’ plan would be fine with it as long as the “millions sacrificed to save billions” didn’t include themselves or their loved ones being apart of those who are sacrificed. People talk about the necessity of sacrifice but wouldn’t be the ones willing to make that sacrifice

@CeeDoubleU

2 жыл бұрын

Just a bunch of edgelords

@user-iy7jo7bq4f

2 жыл бұрын

@@CeeDoubleU "Ozymandius did nothing wrong..." "Ok, he's going to sacrifice your ass..." "I change my mind... "

@andrewvincent7299

2 жыл бұрын

I think you're wrong. Most people at the end of the day would not make that sacrifice because the weight of what they were about to do would dawn on them and most people would not want millions of deaths on their hands. The Dark Knight portrays this type of decision perfectly with the people in the two individual ferries. Doing horrible things for the "greater good" is evil and only a sociopath finds that acceptable.

@wakaneut

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Actually I think people would sacrifice many strangers to save few loved ones.

@galarstar052

2 жыл бұрын

funny that someone else mentioned Eren Jaeger in this comment section because people who defend him make the exact same argument you're using to argue *against* Ozymandias. I guess it's kind of a "no shit" conclusion since they have opposing ideologies essentially but i just think it's interesting how both are extremely polarising.

I think it was sweet that those 2 guys had 1 final hug before they died.

This film alone has so many great one liners!!! Imagine what a proper DCU could have been

I know that they made slight alterations from the comics but damn was that changed more believable. And compared to other superhero movies during the time Watchmen was released, it showed a more realistic world where heroes also fails with real consequences.

This scene, along with the scene in the graphic novel, is probably the biggest "oh fuck" moment in history. I will never forget how this scene made me feel.

A Villain who actually read the Evil Overlord list!!

In a weird twisted way by leaving clues that he knew the others would put together eventually and come after him he saved them. Ozzy in a very convoluted way got them out from the devastation he was about to unleash.

@JB-xl2jc

4 ай бұрын

I don't know that it was intentional. If it was, he's even more deranged than he first appears. After all, the fragile peace he creates is predicated on a lie, paid for with the blood of millions. If that lie is uncovered and the peace fades slowly to the brink of war again, their deaths were in vain from the start.

2:32 always gives me shivers. I read the graphic novel and saw the relationship grow between the two - a resentful but caring relationship. In their last moments, they choose to die together. Brutal

@dan7291able

7 ай бұрын

I was always happy to see those 2 make it into the movie as well lol, if you know you know, i often think of the book the black kid was reading too lol, for some reason its just another random story inside of a story lol

I love how he even pays homage to the giant squid when all the cities are flashing on the screen and underneath Paris it says “S.Q.U.I.D. ENERGIZING.”

The people who say Snyder is a terrible director either haven’t seen this movie or didn’t understand it. I read the Watchmen comic after watching this movie and i think it’s impossible to make a more comic accurate movie than this one. This is a masterpiece in fictional cinema history, i don't care what box office says.

@umngyr

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, even a broken clock is right twice a day. One good movie does not excuse another bad one. The true mark of a master, is consistency of performance.

@sleystad872

2 жыл бұрын

oh its totally possible to make a more comic-accurate adaptation. literally another watchmen just adding the squid from the comics would make it comic-accurate

@terryloweh

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleystad872 I actually prefer this to the squid ending. It allows dr Manhattan to leave forever

@vysharra

2 жыл бұрын

It was storyboarded and written for him, which is why it was great. He’s a _fantastic_ director of photography, he’s an artist with a camera, but his actors and plot suffer immensely when he tries to do everything himself. Case in point: Lex Luthor. The lines are fine, menacing even, but the delivery was seriously lacking. A good director would have fixed that rather than put manic pixie Eisenberg opposite of Superman at the climax.

@jdal21

2 жыл бұрын

@@vysharra Have to disagree, they went with a young & modern ego-centric billionaire pyscho genius, if he delivered lines like an old man or deep voice or slow delivery, there wouldnt be enough difference in character between lex clark and bruce, the dynamic of these individual characters having their own personality that greatly differs is better than a bunch of dudes that look, sound, and move the same all in conflict with one another. Bruce is already brooding and clark is troubled with his own existence, having the lex many mostly knew from the animated movies wouldn't pose enough dynamic to the other characters.

IMO, the best superhero movie of all time . Hands down.

@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser

2 жыл бұрын

Have you read the graphic novel??

@mohamedomar6862

2 жыл бұрын

@@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser No unfortunately

@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohamedomar6862 its worth buying.

@mohamedomar6862

2 жыл бұрын

@@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser Will do👌

@omegadead6780

2 жыл бұрын

The incredibles wants to know your location.

amazing movie, director and story

This movie deserves to be praised as one of the greatest films ever made but for some reason it ended up becoming decisive split half and half and literally makes no sense to me. It’s so perfectly adapted from the book and just an overall really quality film. Damn entertaining and enjoyable like phenomenal story overall and for some reason it’s not a overly praised film and that just irks me.

@baalgar5530

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not a great adaptation of the book, but it did for cbm what the original did for cb

@MasteroChieftan

2 жыл бұрын

It'll get the respect it deserves in time. Lots of great art is not appreciated in its time.

@elyastoohey6621

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is, the good parts of the movie are really just Snyder staying faithful to the comic, in that the comic is a masterpiece. And that's half the problem for the film. It is very hard to replicate a masterpiece.

@michaelkeaton5394

2 жыл бұрын

If you take a picture of the Joconde it won't be a beautiful picture just because you have the Joconde on it... The difference here is that the movie try so hard to look like the book sometimes even shot per shot, that the quality of the film are not to be credited to the film it self but to the quality of the books it was adapted of, and there's the problem with the ending, in the book it end kinda the same way except it's a giant telepathic squid that destroy New York, not Dr. Manhattan... If Allan Moore made that choice it was because the squid was so different from anything humanity could imagine that it cannot be replicated unlike Dr. Manhattan that the US government has studied, so the day humanity can replicate his power I don't give much of this new found peace... While for the squid, it's the opposite, it's so radically different the only solution humanity has it's to ally to face the threat... So basically the book tells us to be aware of symbols and how people use history while the movie tell us that fiction can't be trusted and to not believe those that tell you story while telling us a story, it's completely autodestructive, by replacing the squid with Dr. Manhattan Snyder got himself stuck to come up with something that would has symbolic has the squid was...

@therealmistahjay

2 жыл бұрын

This came out at a time where Superhero movies were very by the book, bright and had you leaving the theater with a smile on your face. This wasn’t that movie. It challenges the entire notion of the superhero and people simply didn’t know how to react. This was wayyyy ahead of its time. You release this now, it’d probably do a lot better..

Yes the twist was superb. Thinking through every scenario. and 2:38 is exactly a rorschach test card mimic when the people are dying. Omg. Also the end scene in that room with the lights is EXACTLY from Dr. Strangelove. Also perfection.

@coloradobrad6779

2 жыл бұрын

@@zonian1966 AND the ‘Atomic clock’ on the wristwatch ‘1 minute to 0 boom.’ I mean wow I have watched this movie so many times and still pick up stuff.

“Acts of goodness are not always wise, and acts of evil are not always foolish, but regardless, we shall always strive to be good.” - Martyr Logarius (Bloodborne)

Ozymandias: "Killing millions to save billions." IRL oligarchs: "Killing billions so thousands can live even more lavishly."

The mad, grouchy genius of Alan Moore. Unparalleled.

The fact there's passionate debate over Ozzy's plan/his and Rorschach's philosophies decades after the story was written shows just how great a story Watchmen is, it's a shame this movie wasn't more well received when it came out (I think if it came out today in a post-MCU world filled with superhero-fatigue it would be FAR more appreciated)

2:33 that hug was heartbreaking....

finally a villian that knows how to get things done properly

Criminally underrated actors

As time goes on, I appreciate this movie even more. Its not too far off the original comic books, its difficult to grasp what Watchmen really is if you havent experienced it in comics before. But the desings, the set pieces, dialogues, acting, music, scenery and dialogues are on point, it is a great watch

Love the Dr. Strangelove War Room reference

0:58 I love the little nod to the comics on the panel. S.Q.U.I.D

I love the final scene it’s totally from ‘Dr stranglove’ or ‘How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb’

What baffled me is why Dr. Manhattan had to kill Rorschach. He could have just set up someplace for him to live on another planet by himself, or given him some people to live with there, or maybe cryogenically suspend him for about 100 years until the brouhaha dies down, then unfreeze him. There were an infinite number of ways to deal with Rorschach other than just killing him.

@DuongNguyen-dx2vq

Жыл бұрын

rorschach asked for it to show manhattan that while possessing godlike powers, he doesnt have what it takes to change humanity s nature

@mariopalos9238

Жыл бұрын

Or turn him into a flower.

@handleonafridge6828

Жыл бұрын

As good Watchmen is, the capabilities of Dr. Manhattan is a huge plot hole . For example: Why couldn’t Dr. Manhattan just make every nuke simply disappear before they were even fired?

@DuongNguyen-dx2vq

Жыл бұрын

@@mariopalos9238 i think thats a plothole, not loophole

@firstlast1947

Жыл бұрын

@@handleonafridge6828 Great point! But the answer would probably be that humanity would then just use conventional missiles to destroy each other. And if those were taken away, they would use regular guns and knives and bats to destroy each other. The goal was to get people to stop fighting each other and instead cooperate with each other, in the face of a common enemy. Taking away one form of weapon would just lead to the use of other weapons.

Ozimandias: "Killing millions to save billions" Eren Yeager: "Killing billions to save millions" Thanos: "Killing trillions to accomplish absolutely nothing"

@danyleon4870

11 ай бұрын

Actualy Thanos in MCU intended to kill half of the galaxy's population so the other half would trive with the resource the galaxy can afford. On the side note I prefer condoms than mega genocide.

”Do you think I’m a comic book villain?“ -The comic book villain said calmly

@refulgent_fanta

5 ай бұрын

I think he's the only comic book villain that actually subverted our expectations. He didn't reveal his entire plan to the heroes, giving them a chance to stop him. He told them everything AFTER it was done.

I can't believe he has the same line as Chudjack

"Without condemning, or condoning, I understand"

The World Economic Forum is the legitimate real world equivalent of Ozy

@tau-5794

4 ай бұрын

It even has the rich egomaniacal German dude at the head

This movie is ahead of its time, still is🌧✈️

Interesting timing to see this pop up in my feed

Time to watch this again for the 3rd time! Love this movie!

For me the most poignant part of the film was the end. The sacrificing of truth for comfort was a reminder of humanities duality. Notice how Rorschach was the only one who actually valued Truth, no matter the pain it caused him. One can see Dr. Manhattan's sadness at killing him, as he realized humanities inability to handle truth was it's weakness. Sheeple 🐑. No wonder he left Earth.

@Swordsman99k

2 жыл бұрын

The "Truth" would have led to continued escalation and eventually nuclear war. Only a lemming (a worse concept than even a Sheep) would blindly want to follow destruction so badly for an ideal. No wonder Dr. Manhattan was curious about humanity's nonsensical nature too.

@Jay-hd4jx

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. That was one of the most powerful messages in the film and it ties into reality as well.

@emmanueloluga9770

2 жыл бұрын

@@Swordsman99k Ozzy's plan was retarted. Humans would have been right back to square 1 in less than 5 yrs at most. Its the anatomy of misremembering.

@QueueWithACapitalQ

2 жыл бұрын

"The person is smart, People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it"

@Garlly34

2 жыл бұрын

Alan Moore declared on an interview that he made Rorschach as the guideline of what people shouldn’t strive for, absolutes, (That’s the reason why the character sees things black and white, his mask is symbolic of this) but made him so understandable as a character that people took a liking to him. Rorschach was not the “good guy” but the idealized and romanticized hero. Ironic for people not to see this.

Snyder's best work to date. Fantastic film

Something about those two random guys hugging each other as the bomb hits always gets me. It’s like at our last moments we just want to be comforted in some way. I’d do the same.

I hated how cold and calculating they made him. In the books he screams with joy when it works. He really cares about people and genuinely thought this was his only option.

@ibn_adham

2 жыл бұрын

If he cares so much I don't think a large-scale massacre should have him screaming with joy, no matter how many people it would save.

@slyseal2091

2 жыл бұрын

​@Giovanni Martinez And how would your argument work if that "save everyone else" wasn't in quotations? Why do you condone mass murder for personal reasons? Why isn't "the safety of everyone else" as much of a personal reason as "I love my child"?

@taleoftwowolves74

2 жыл бұрын

@Giovanni Martinez Its not selfish because he isn't doing it for personal gain Evil maybe But his intention is world peace and maybe he doesn't care for the individuals but he cares about the human race

@michaeljones7447

2 жыл бұрын

@Consilium Pacis Why not? He thinks he just saved billions of lives. It’s perfectly reasonable for him to cry for joy considering his mindset. Not to mention it makes him much more interesting and unique than the “I’m doing the wrong thing for the right reason so I’m dark, conflicted, and brooding all the time” cookie cutter villain. We all know the real reason comic Ozymandias wasn’t in this movie is because Snyder can’t direct a convincingly happy character to save his life.

@drdiscostu

2 жыл бұрын

@Giovanni Martinez fundamentally, you can see nothing but megalomania in this clip. In the comics when he screams with joy at preventing nuclear war (although as the pirate comic illustrates, it may not have happened) you can at least see his intent was to help people. You can claim he is evil and you may well be right but seeing his joy at helping people adds a layer of nuance

Anyone notice just before the device went off, the energy swirling around it kinda look like tentacles. Likely a reference to the original comic.

Nite Owl: “Killing millions…” Ozzy: “… to save billions” Thanos: *(Sends friend request)*

@inuyashason81

Жыл бұрын

“You know we can’t let you do that?”

Can you imagine? Suspecting (or knowing) that your death is coming, and realizing you have absolutely no way of stopping it.

I like how the news headline of "WAR?" flies off and dissappears into the explosion literally symbolizing the fear or threat of nuclear war ended with these bombs.

I like how Ozzy is smart enough to pull this off, but too stupid to realize he only bought humanity a couple of years of peace at best; we will inevitably start fighting and killing each other over something. Tragedies and the unity that stems from them is temporary, our nature is forever.

@bdeamon1

8 ай бұрын

That's why in the comic he used an unexplainable octopus monster. He thought a collective shared fear and the need to prepare for something impossible suddenly happening again might just be enough to unify humanity indefinitely. Of course in the comic Ozymandias was not as sure as the movie one that his plan would work. He was actually spurred on by his fear and ego and did not see an obvious solution like the movie version.

@HarryK-ld2ed

7 ай бұрын

​@@bdeamon1 Which is why the comic is superior.

@peterl3417

7 ай бұрын

The reason USSR and US are much closer to nuclear war in Watchmen is because Manhattan is giving the US an insane ace. He can wipe out the USSR at any moment and is constantly helping the Americans win wars to tip the scales in their favor. He can even stop Soviet nukes in flight. No shit the Soviets are way more paranoid and Americans way more ballsy in this universe. The world would be saved because Manhattan would be blamed for killing people on both sides AND leaving Earth, no longer making the balance of power…unbalanced.

@channel45853

Ай бұрын

@@HarryK-ld2ed I doubt that

0:44 Literally every cliche villain ever: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!

Now it’s “Billions Must die to save Millions” Annnnnd it’s the Usual Suspects Once Again.

We would never see something of the magnitude in cinemas anymore

I actually had a whole class on the Graphic Novel the movie is based on a couple of years ago. Chose it for my mandatory oral exam (we have to do at least one at my institute) and spoke about Dan Dreibergs temporary impotence. First choice for the title was "Talking about Dans Dick", but for some reason, my professor forced me to go with "Impotence as an expression for the lack of agency in the character Dan Dreiberg". Still disappointed.

@EpicFail7777777

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like an excellent class- got any course materials left over?

Kill millions to save billions? Welcome to Warhammer 40k universe

So ahead of it's time

Him triggering it 35 minutes ahead then explains his plan. He is goated for that 🔥 im not a comic book villian... One of the best lines

He did a terrible evil to prevent an even more terrible evil from occurring

La mejor película basada en Cómics de la HISTORIA

I just noticed the guy's watch shows 1 minute before noon, echoing the "doomsday clock" that showed up earlier in the movie.

Kissinger is left dumbfounded after realizing someone completely demolished his high score in one blow.

@andrewyoonhobai8453

2 ай бұрын

LOL

"If you're the smartest man on your planet, I'd hate to meet the dumbest."

This movie is so damn underrated

I love these type of superhero movies, the choice they make ,why they make it , philosophical side ❤️

Relevant message as to what’s going on in 2022+ from beginning of 2020

It's unnerving how the whole time when Rorschach and Nite Owl arrived, they were already too late to stop his plan.

this might be the most faithful comic adaptation that we ever get, the majority of the movie is play-for-play, like the pages of the comic coming to life! i am very grateful that they chose to alter the ending though, pinning it on doctor manhattan using energy blasts is much better than the silly giant tentacle monster :P

How did i miss this nice movie

One of my favorite movies of all time. To this day.

And Rohrschach blew it all up by publishing his diary like a little schoolgirl... (pun intended)

The best thing about Ozymandias is that he makes a great point. He’s brilliant, evil and maniacal sure, but is he wrong? He brought about world peace (for a time) and undoubtedly saved more lives than he took. Unlike Thanos with his “kill half of everything” plan (which is stupid, as he could have just created more resources instead of reducing life) Ozzy’s plan was logical. Watchmen is my second favourite comic book movie of all time, just beaten by The Dark Knight.

@The-Brocolis

2 жыл бұрын

@kid man no it wouldn't have worked, the entire thing is stupid. It would provide aboundance for the remaining 50% for a time only because they benefited of the production left by the other 50%. In the years 1700 the world population was about 10% of what it is today and yet the 18th century was not remembered for its lack of poverty

@TinyBitMouse01

2 жыл бұрын

Creating double the resources would have only went against Thanos's plan in the first place, to slow down development since he saw what happened with his people when they reached max capacity

@csguak

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is this: Who the fuck are you to judge who lives or dies? "I think we should start bringing the world peace by killing you and your family first." If you disagree with that statement, then you are a hypocrite. I would have had so much respect for Thanos if his snap included himself. But no, he wanted to play God and murdered countless lives while sparing his life. To me, he is no different than a school shooter.

@kiznisha2562

2 жыл бұрын

@@csguak Oh I don’t really agree even if logically he was “right”, it’s morally grey too which is why he’s such a good villain. Thanos DID include himself in the snap canonically in the comics, he simply won the 50/50 coin toss and survived. Not sure if that applied in the movie though.

@TinyBitMouse01

2 жыл бұрын

@@csguak but the whole point is that it chose at complete random, Thanos even sacraficed his daughter he loved to get an infinity stone, the only true and far way was that the snap, snapped Half of everyone which could have included himself

"There has never been peace without first a great suffering, the greater the suffering, the greater the peace." August Walker: Mission Impossible Fallout.

The combination on the Doctor's briefcase is 300. Nice touch by Snyder.

Dammit, I miss when villains were smart enough to be respected.

Ozymandias thinks he's Thanos.

Cant make an omelet without breaking a few eggs

@zacharyroles8345

2 жыл бұрын

"I'm making the mother of all omelettes, Jack! Can't fret over every egg!" - Senator Armstrong

@xyrus345

2 жыл бұрын

Break enough eggs and you'll never be able to make another omelet.

@mudkipzuzu

2 жыл бұрын

I saw this video in my recommended section next to a video about Senator Armstrong. That common youtube comment about "the algorithm brought us together", can't get more literal than this.

Under rated film . When’s the sequel

this hits different in june of 2022