Watch me Install a $12 Mini Humbucker THAT SOUNDS BAD! - SX Liquid Modification video!

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  • @kanahmal
    @kanahmalАй бұрын

    Really enjoyed the Sneaker Pimps jam.

  • @LimneticVillains

    @LimneticVillains

    29 күн бұрын

    Underground...

  • @reidrac
    @reidracАй бұрын

    Looks pretty, but I think the P90 sounds better. Nice one, thank you!

  • @MisterJWJ71
    @MisterJWJ7123 күн бұрын

    It doesn't sound "bad" it just sounds "different" than you were expecting. Some players can make beautiful sounds with gear that rhe majority would consider unusable.

  • @soulagent79
    @soulagent79Ай бұрын

    These Chinese mini-humuckers have an interesting construction. If you open them up, you'll see it's just two ceramic bars next to each other, wrapped in coil wire. No pole pieces or rails.

  • @ianstu7
    @ianstu7Ай бұрын

    In the loop jam, it sounded fine. By comparison with the P90, it sounded rough imo, but maybe that's just volume bias since it's a bit quieter? Either way, these are my favorite types of videos of yours. Keep it up!

  • @trolabee
    @trolabeeАй бұрын

    Dang I’ve been looking at those awhile now! I’m digging the look and sound of that Firebird style pickup in yours. Please Rondo make one last run if you still can! I promise I’ll buy one this time!

  • @CrazedFandango
    @CrazedFandangoАй бұрын

    How about moving it to the middle position? It's be a little louder and thicker sounding there and you could get the nice position 2 & 4 sounds.

  • @gregorymackenzie1108
    @gregorymackenzie1108Ай бұрын

    It's a nerdy thing on my part but I noticed you changed the pots and the bridge pickup. I don't quite have the ear to tell how much of an effect that has on the final result, though you do, the brightness you refer to. I'll have to replay the video and listen again. My first thought would be if I were doing this (as a total nerd) would be to change one thing at a time to see what the effect is. My learning curve. That bridge pickup is certainly more subtle compared to the P90s, really interesting. The P90s are just more joyful.

  • @thedoyleharcavy
    @thedoyleharcavyАй бұрын

    I put that same pickup in the neck position of my Squier tele a year ago and love it

  • @RobertFisher1969
    @RobertFisher1969Ай бұрын

    There are not enough KZread videos on swapping a mini-humbucker in place of a P90. Especially since there are lot of different ways of mounting both. So, thanks for adding another one!

  • @heavymetal19610
    @heavymetal19610Ай бұрын

    Can't wait to see more demos with the Loopers! Cheers 🎇

  • @antico.2757
    @antico.2757Ай бұрын

    So happy I grabbed one of these guitars before it was too late! Your fault, thanks! Seems the trem version had been sold out for a while. Finally found one on Reverb. Stupidly, AS SOON AS I got it, before I even plugged it in, I accidentally took it way too far apart simply trying to modify the pickguard lol! Maybe Adrian Belew taught me that. At any rate, upon plugging it in, something is WRONG! Lots of noise and I don't know what I'm doing! While it looks amazing hanging on my wall, I REALLY look forward to dissecting it all over again and trying to truly learn the ins and outs the art of cheap, err. inexpensive guitar mods. AND ACTUALLY PLAYING IT! Referencing this vid and your previous one (and following along on hopeful future mutations) will surely help me tremendously! MuchThanks & Cheers! Oh, and also really dig that "jam" btw!!!!

  • @bryanm120
    @bryanm120Күн бұрын

    Definitely sounds a bit thin and quiet. I would’ve expected a bit of grit from adding a mini humbucker as well, but the stock p90s seemed to have more body and grit than the humbucker. The mini bucket doesn’t sound bad really, but I think the p90 that was in it sounds better to my ears. But for surfy lead stuff that mini bucket could be useful as long as you compensate for the volume drop.

  • @christopherguzzi1316
    @christopherguzzi1316Ай бұрын

    Best part was the jam at the end. I really enjoyed the vibe.🤗😍😁

  • @DasOmen02
    @DasOmen02Ай бұрын

    That 12 dollar bridge humbucker clean is like what clean bridge humbuckers sound to people who don't like clean bridge humbucker tones..... and by people I mean me LOL single coils for the win is all I gotta say 😌

  • @SonicRave1
    @SonicRave1Ай бұрын

    I put one of those mini humbuckers on a project guitar and I love the sound.

  • @RP-sk8ij
    @RP-sk8ijАй бұрын

    What a unique sound, wouldn't change it. Good video

  • @shirestudios
    @shirestudios26 күн бұрын

    Come for the tone difference, stay for the noodling.❤

  • @brianstockless7083
    @brianstockless7083Ай бұрын

    Your montage music is one of my favorite things on KZread!

  • @wharman1
    @wharman1Ай бұрын

    I really love this guitar! Rondo needs to bring it back (in red with three p90s and JM trem). I would buy one TODAY. Every time Ryan does a video with this guitar in view, I look to see if Rondo has it back. No dice! Maybe a Ryan SIGNATURE Surfbuddy Guitar. COME ON RONDO!

  • @PhatsGaming
    @PhatsGamingАй бұрын

    sounds better than the old one

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinderАй бұрын

    Lovin' the T-Shirt! I want one!

  • @fakecat5844
    @fakecat584429 күн бұрын

    I had a Firebird V years ago and really loved the minihum in the neck but the bridge mini was too thin and frail sounding. This one doesn't sound too bad for $12.

  • @rickd1197
    @rickd1197Ай бұрын

    Nice 6 Underground jam!

  • @gringogreen4719
    @gringogreen4719Ай бұрын

    Looks and sounds cool Ryan. Just an observation, the Wang head would balance out look wise if you put it on top of your tan Princeton to mirror your Fender Reverb on your black Princeton.🤔 Just a thought.

  • @joewhy
    @joewhyАй бұрын

    Oh man, the knob puller can double as a post-digger.

  • @ottovonnekpunch1268
    @ottovonnekpunch1268Ай бұрын

    Ryan, call me crazy, but the biggest buck/bang came from the POTS upgrade (not the pickup swap)! I enjoyed watching you go through the upgrade process! 👍

  • @calebterry4766
    @calebterry4766Ай бұрын

    it's out of phase wire the humbucker backwards and it will sound thick and loud. Matching single coils and humbuckers be a chore but worth the work most the time.

  • @wrayven
    @wrayvenАй бұрын

    That $12 pickup might function better in the middle position as a change up to the P-90. I have a pair of Mojotone Johnny Winter Firebird pickups in an 80's American Standard Strat with a Strat pickup in the middle. They don't sound as anemic-they are louder than the Strat pickup. What can you expect from a $12 pickup anyways?

  • @jvin248
    @jvin248Ай бұрын

    Ryan, P90s are pretty hot on their own so putting in a mini humbucker wouldn't boost the signal unless it was specifically overwound. Play with pickup heights by ear, including bass and treble tip. Check out old Hendrix videos and you'll see he set his pickups by ear at angles.

  • @Full_Deflection

    @Full_Deflection

    Ай бұрын

    I’m as far from Hendrix as possible, but 100% set your pickup height by ear. You’re speaking facts. Every pickup in every one of my guitars gets this treatment and it makes a world of difference.

  • @DMSProduktions

    @DMSProduktions

    Ай бұрын

    @@Full_Deflection Same with me! \m/

  • @austinvert8626
    @austinvert8626Ай бұрын

    Hi Ryan. Great Surf guitar there as the big shark's / dolphin fin at the top back makes it!! You could call it Flipper or The White Pointer! Greg - (Aussie surf guitar nut)

  • @DMSProduktions

    @DMSProduktions

    Ай бұрын

    Onya Knackers!

  • @mishakildager
    @mishakildager4 күн бұрын

    I also wanna get a new pickguard for mine. Love the p90s though. Mine didn’t come with a trem so I added a bigsby

  • @mauibill7233
    @mauibill7233Ай бұрын

    Yeah, the Les Paul Deluxe has mini humbuckers. Play one sometime. They're absolutely nutless.

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnycАй бұрын

    A decent compromise between single coils and humbuckers is 300k pots. I did this on a Jet King and it sounded so much more even between full humbucker and coil split. PRS has resistors (and sometimes capacitors) on their coil split push-pull pots to do something similar.

  • @MrNatural_OG
    @MrNatural_OGАй бұрын

    I think it looks great, more on the difference of the pots? when you get the height dialed in it will be more like a humbukka. the out of phase thing is interesting, microphonic thing isn't good imo

  • @pass_the_flask
    @pass_the_flaskАй бұрын

    I wonder what magnet is in it? I'd probably take the cover off and have a look, might be oriented wrong if you think you wired it in the right way. Could also measure the output and try it in the neck position, might work better there if it's low output

  • @gregorymackenzie1108
    @gregorymackenzie1108Ай бұрын

    This got me curious about the sound from the Humbucker, long story but after some reading I discovered that the way a guitar is wired, and the position of the capacitors on the pots, affects the sound of the Humbucker. Apparently in the 1950s the wiring of the LP guitars was different than that of the 1960s and the sound was brighter. I can believe that listening to Les Paul play. I have no idea if 50s wiring would make any difference to this situation. Apparently the capacitor itself also matters. I am intrigued.

  • @garyhanna9334
    @garyhanna9334Ай бұрын

    Spin spin sugar!! ❤

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinderАй бұрын

    I totally love these guitars! I might be the only nut in the UK owns one?!! (I'm unsure how HumBucker can be quieter than a single coil though )

  • @jackmcdonagh4042
    @jackmcdonagh4042Ай бұрын

    Your background music has grown on me so much, think it was the Harley Benton Jazzmaster kit build where I heard it first and thought "thats a weird asf song idk about it", but now I cant not vibe to it in all the fastforwarding sections lmao

  • @notanotherbassplayer2463
    @notanotherbassplayer2463Ай бұрын

    I listened to that jam at the end at 2x speed and it sounded really good 😹

  • @johnro6659
    @johnro6659Ай бұрын

    What was the difference of the resistance between the P90 and Humbucker if you checked? Could be the issue of the humbucker being a little quieter. I always regret not getting one of the Liquid SX guitars when the were dirt cheap last time I checked they were around $260.00 still inexpensive but not long ago they were half that. I never had an issue with any guitar from Rondo music.

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinderАй бұрын

    Is the 'bucker definitely wired in series NOT parallel?

  • @hughschick6847
    @hughschick6847Ай бұрын

    6:40 Rondo has been known to superglue the pots to the knobs. 4:44 maybe mod the pickguard so it’s more easily removable

  • @rabbithowls71
    @rabbithowls71Ай бұрын

    I don’t know if the bar magnet in the minibucker is the same size as a regular humbucker, but if it is you might try a magnet swap. They are super cheap and make a huge difference. Well even if it isn’t, still try it. You might get some magical tones out of that cheapie. All things considered, other than being a bit thin, it doesn’t sound too bad as is.

  • @UltraV13
    @UltraV13Ай бұрын

    Have to say I'm a big fan of a P90 in the bridge position specifically; I'd be tempted to put that miniHB somewhere else or even in another guitar. As others have said P90s are generally the highest output so the miniHB most likely should be quieter. edit: think I was half-asleep when first commented; also enjoyed the SP homage

  • @MilkyWayMike09
    @MilkyWayMike09Ай бұрын

    Loved the jam. I thought the mini sounded like it should with distortion. Someone below mentioned putting the mini in the middle. 🤔 Honestly, I would leave the Liquid stock. I had an SX Strat with P90s... I was always well satiated when I played that guitar. One of those, 'not sure why I sold it' guitars.

  • @frankleyJ
    @frankleyJАй бұрын

    Tonally, don't hate it. Just quiet. Sounds similar to the P90 style pickups that came stock on my GearIT LP from Amazon.

  • @-jank-willson
    @-jank-willsonАй бұрын

    why is it mini? It fits perfectly into place!

  • @ACWraith
    @ACWraithАй бұрын

    Precision Guitar offers custom SX Liquid pickguards on Reverb if you don't want to bother with tracing... Not that I've envisioned putting a purple pearl one on that beautiful surf green or anything. I'm not envious at all. Or so I keep telling myself.

  • @mindfield9832
    @mindfield9832Ай бұрын

    Checkout the Wilkinson versions. They’re pretty good. Maybe move that janky pickup to the middle position as your microphonic, out of phase wildcard.

  • @60CycleHumcast

    @60CycleHumcast

    Ай бұрын

    I’ve been thinking about it

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515Ай бұрын

    I hope you like the screw pin connectors I found (sent to the FB short comments).

  • @icedvengence3845
    @icedvengence3845Ай бұрын

    Don't think i seen rondo sell the 3 pickup with a trem before

  • @bigtguitars7312
    @bigtguitars7312Ай бұрын

    I do love a @RyanBurke project

  • @joeyskar
    @joeyskarАй бұрын

    6:01 fucking killed me 🤣 fantastic work editing Ryan.

  • @joeyskar

    @joeyskar

    Ай бұрын

    14:21 Can you please get a Solder Fan! That stuff is really toxic!

  • @vthings001
    @vthings001Ай бұрын

    Last I looked there was still a bunch of these. Then I see this video and immediately went to Rondo and... they're gone. All of them. Guess my green hardtail will have to suffice. Really wanted another though.

  • @DMSProduktions

    @DMSProduktions

    Ай бұрын

    Rondo's inventory is a mere shade of what it used to be 10 years ago! I had a look, they have FA models left on the site at all!

  • @BillHaleyInTheComments
    @BillHaleyInTheCommentsАй бұрын

    Hi! What’s your current demo rig? What are you using for the drums? Sounds awesome!

  • @fuckgoogle8661

    @fuckgoogle8661

    Ай бұрын

    Pretty sure he’s just using the donner. He’s got a video or two on it and there is multiple other companies with the same stuff built in. One at least costs more but I think there was 3 that cost less depending on what you’re hunting for or want new/used 40/50ish is going to be the low end. Donner did have a sale a bit back on refurbished ones that were that much but still had whatever the warranty was.

  • @fuckgoogle8661

    @fuckgoogle8661

    Ай бұрын

    Also ryan has an Amazon link to it up above apparently. He’s good like that. It’s got a $15 off thing I think you need to ckick and another $5 one underneath that when I looked. I was actually curious if they’d made an update. I think those came out originally over 5 years ago. Where’s our new model?

  • @JoeBaermann
    @JoeBaermannАй бұрын

    I would recommend Warmann FireBuckers instead as cheap replacement pickups. For something hot, DiMarzio Super Distortion in P90 size, but that is a complete different price and might be to hot, I use a 1mill Bournes pot with the one I got, but using that generally with all hot DiMarzio pups since I disconnect the tonepot.

  • @exerminator2000
    @exerminator2000Ай бұрын

    Dammit I wanted one of those someday

  • @mikeapplegate5845
    @mikeapplegate5845Ай бұрын

    The P90 all day for me

  • @PJBonoVox
    @PJBonoVoxАй бұрын

    Video starts at 21:35

  • @muddymike10
    @muddymike10Ай бұрын

    You would not be happy if it sounded too close to the middle and neck pups. It's thin & bright and it complements the other two. Awesome loop jam...

  • @jvin248
    @jvin248Ай бұрын

    Oh! Ryan, you made the sinful string swap! So much sadness now. Always always use the old strings for the A/B test of new tone parts. Otherwise too many players think their expensive hardware swap was "Awesome!" where they run around telling all the forums about it (like Tone Wood) when the audible real change was the new strings.

  • @donbishop6994

    @donbishop6994

    Ай бұрын

    Facts.

  • @OutstandingBill1

    @OutstandingBill1

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe a replacement pick guard could be shaped to come off without removing the neck?

  • @OutstandingBill1

    @OutstandingBill1

    Ай бұрын

    Is it going to be in phase with the other pickups?

  • @MarkWilliams-in9xi

    @MarkWilliams-in9xi

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, AND trimming the pole screws will change the sound because it changes the mass of the vibration sensing of the magnetic field.

  • @MichaelSheaAudio
    @MichaelSheaAudioАй бұрын

    Well it's only got a 7k output so I would imagine that would explain the low volume. Also with it being microphonic, just ditch it or fix it if possible. :P

  • @TjByers369
    @TjByers369Ай бұрын

    That 6 Underground jam sounded great.

  • @mrbassdbd
    @mrbassdbdАй бұрын

    them lo-fi pickups

  • @tigmil8116
    @tigmil8116Ай бұрын

    Kind of a bummer they are discontinuing these if they are. I never been a mini humbucker fan so I can't really comment on that, but wish I could.

  • @davidcelliott
    @davidcelliottАй бұрын

    I can't unsee the green muppet...

  • @HenrySchecker
    @HenryScheckerАй бұрын

    I would go with GFS ferrite p90s personally

  • @bfluker85
    @bfluker85Ай бұрын

    Honestly I don’t think it sounds that bad… especially with distortion. I think it could be fun for the right thing.

  • @Smelyn
    @SmelynАй бұрын

    io was gonna do this to my epiphone. i was gonna buy a temu pickup but idk

  • @mark_lo101
    @mark_lo101Ай бұрын

    Hmm I kind of like the sound of the cheapo pickup it’s very different to the P90s of course the obvious next step is to set it in the other two positions and see how it sounds….

  • @larseikind666
    @larseikind666Ай бұрын

    I think P-90 pickups sound way too brittle and twangy with 500k pots. But, then again, a 250k with a humbucker is way too muddy. So, unless you have the option of installing seperate tone pots for the P-90 and the humbucker, the 500k is a better option. I must admit that I didn't like the sound of the cheap mini humbucker, though. The stock pickup had much more body. But what do you expect from a $12 pickup anyway.

  • @ParanoidGoblinoid
    @ParanoidGoblinoidАй бұрын

    At that price, why not buy three?

  • @jdmazzille9219
    @jdmazzille9219Ай бұрын

    should still add the aluminum neck to that thing

  • @Full_Deflection
    @Full_DeflectionАй бұрын

    Kind of sounded like the neck pickup was active in the middle position.

  • @steveoneal5257
    @steveoneal5257Ай бұрын

    a 12 dollar mini humbucker is going to be super microphonic

  • @-processdrone-
    @-processdrone-Ай бұрын

    The stock pickups sound great, but I don't like the idea of P90s so much , so I'm going to replace one with absolute junk. 👀 I was going to say "it sounds bad, and you should feel bad" but you didn't specifically ask for rude and nasty comments this time, so instead I'll say it was fun and maybe you should swap out the minibucker for an entwistlepickups H90. (12K NEODYMIUM HUMBUCKER IN P90 CASING how ferocious does THAT sound like it's gonna be??)

  • @DMSProduktions
    @DMSProduktionsАй бұрын

    MB prob underwound, ceramic p/up! WHADDAYA expect for $12? Rrrrruber biscuit? Bao bao bao!

  • @TheSkarocker56
    @TheSkarocker56Ай бұрын

    They're the type of pickups that come stock in those Chinese 'factory' knock-offs. Best place to install them is the trash bin ;) A GM Songbird mini-bucker is a far better option at around $19.99. They can be coil split too. I put a pair in my non reverse FB. kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6Sdu6yHisLSaKw.html

  • @Arfonfree
    @ArfonfreeАй бұрын

    Cheapest is a moving target... now there's one for $9.99 (free delivery). You could have saved A DOLLAR!

  • @gregh1492
    @gregh1492Ай бұрын

    I also don't think it sounds bad, its just thinner sounding and lower output compared to the p90s

  • @MrPhins
    @MrPhinsАй бұрын

    I hope the $24 one sounds twice as good because that was pretty awful played clean lol.

  • @two50ne77
    @two50ne77Ай бұрын

    new haircut

  • @nym053
    @nym053Ай бұрын

    Poof! 😂 What I noticed in difference between the stock and minibucker, is that other than having less highs (maybe partly due to the new pots) the stock also have significantly more lows, which might make it sound like it's louder. Well it does have more signal, but I don't think that the peaks are that different.

  • @renolyons4339
    @renolyons4339Ай бұрын

    i have one and it humms so bad i dont play it

  • @michaelolz
    @michaelolz7 күн бұрын

    Don’t fix it back. It has a nasty 70s classic rock thing going for it. You might wax pot the new mini bucker, though.

  • @dandjurdjevicplus1
    @dandjurdjevicplus1Ай бұрын

    Change it back Ryan.

  • @onlyusernameleft2
    @onlyusernameleft2Ай бұрын

    I can get cheaper pickups than that. Mr Fancy-pants gets pickups that come in a box. Try demoing a set that comes wrapped in newspaper, then we'll talk about cheap.

  • @user-qw7wx4kr9r
    @user-qw7wx4kr9rАй бұрын

    I like the shape of this guitar so much it makes me angry

  • @menschlicheswesen84
    @menschlicheswesen84Ай бұрын

    3:15 he's not a cat...?

  • @bigtguitars7312
    @bigtguitars7312Ай бұрын

    Upgrade the minibucker

  • @idlepickups
    @idlepickupsАй бұрын

    I could make you a mini bucker for 10 times the price that would sound 10 times as bad!

  • @dekion261
    @dekion26129 күн бұрын

    i'd put the p90 back

  • @melanie2663
    @melanie2663Ай бұрын

    I'm really not feeling that reverb. Sorry.

  • @rindred
    @rindredАй бұрын

    It seems like it is trying to be a Firebird pickup. Based on the spec listed on their website, it's wound to less than half of what a Gibson 'bird would be. The P-90s are probably over 8K, which is 16% more output, minimum. It's hard to tell if it is internally wired out of phase with itself, or if this is like the Gretsch 2220 bass "humbuckers" that are actually single coils. Since you like the sound of the combined bridge-mid pickups, I have a wacky idea - move the mini to the MIDDLE position so you can try to get that OOP sound in both 2 & 4 positions. Yeah, it means more drilling and soldering, but more unique sonic possibility.

  • @andrewadair1443
    @andrewadair1443Ай бұрын

    sissy strut in there?

  • @badscrew4023
    @badscrew4023Ай бұрын

    Still to expensive - these can be had for $10 for a pair on "other sites 😅

  • @tymime
    @tymimeАй бұрын

    Very thin and extremely bright, I have to admit

  • @hannuhanhi183
    @hannuhanhi183Ай бұрын

    Small pots have small sound. You definitely need to change them to big pots because big pots have BIG sound (Dylan sells them). Definitely the 12USD pickup sounded BAD. You have to pay 100USD for a pickup and it will sound GOOD. You have to change also the capacitor to an orange drop because other capacitors sound BAD (Dylan sells also those). Even better is to change the capacitor to a paper in oil capacitor. Here is the thing, oil in capacitor reduces the friction so electrons can move freely inside capacitor. The result is smooth oily high end and tight middle range with full bodied bass.

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