We demand a pt.2. We want to know more brands!!

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

If this is successful, it’ll happen!

@alfonsovl7

Жыл бұрын

yes😅

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

@@willharris8441 see ya Will take care buddy

@Theone_one

Жыл бұрын

Already waiting

@jackeddemon

Жыл бұрын

@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR I’m waiting, bud

I agree with you Russ, especially with AP. It's nice to hear people voice their true opinion for once.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching!!!!

Even in a video where the topic is inherently “negative” your energy is so positive and love the education and knowledge around these brands 👑

Agree with most but Citizen, especially recently. I recently purchased the Fujitsubo diver and the BN0220 and both have quickly become 2 of my favorites: Super Titanium, unique yet appealing designs, solid build quality, and affordability make them great!

@e28forever30

Жыл бұрын

Citizen has some great Titanium watches. For me, the combo titanium-sapphire-Eco Drive-Radio controlled is pure bliss.

@cardinalj

Жыл бұрын

​@E28 Forever I agree with you on the titanium, eco drive, sapphire, radio controlled watches they are fantastic. Love my PMD56-2952. Perfect everyday watch

I own two Vostoks which have plain dials (no tank or scuba guy), and I understand why some people might think they are rubbish. I'll say this though: as a fan of the brand, the flaws are "charming" in their own way. I enjoy playing with the flimsy crown and bezel, and at some point I might mod these watches. One of them has an accuracy of +7 seconds a day. That's pretty damn good for a watch that costs less than 100 bucks, international shipping included. :)

@Joshwiththefries

Жыл бұрын

Definitely feel you on the "charming" aspect of Vostok. Their originality, utility, and history are unbeatable at their price point, even if a lot of their watches are ugly.

@ahha6304

10 ай бұрын

There is one thing though about Vostok people talk less about, it's the winding feeling, it feels like a toy car that you have to drag back to make it push forward, Vostok gave that feeling when winding your watch, and I love that feeling even more than Calibre 8800 from Omega

I really like this video. I don’t mind that three of the watch brands I own are featured here because it’s healthy to be reminded once in a while that they are just watches at the end of the day. A fascinating hobby. Personal preferences can and should differ, and above all, peer pressure to hate or obsess over brands is toxic. Purchase what makes you stay up at nights and wear the fuck out of them. Truth is (or that is what I’ve experienced) that nobody except you can appreciate fully what you are wearing on your wrist.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

This is a fantastic comment and I appreciate you taking the time to type it my friend! 100% agree!

@dunderhay9169

Жыл бұрын

Agreed 👍 , I own an Invicta, a Citizen and seven Vostoks too 😂

@mrmagoo.3678

Жыл бұрын

.. can't argue with that.

@karlsenula9495

Жыл бұрын

@@dunderhay9169 ... with you there two Vostoks, two Citizens and a Tissot. I also like tomato ketchup, love mint chocolate chip ice cream, peanut butter and jam, cheese on EVERYTHING (hey I'm American what do you expect) ... as for cricket ... well I just don't understand it 🤷‍♂️.

@GS-go9qq

Жыл бұрын

It's a great point. I think watch collectors get too concerned by buying right when buying right should just mean what's right for you. Because the truth is, how many people ever really notice what's on your wrist

I've only been following your channel for a few weeks, but after going down the rabbit hole, I can say that you're in my top 3 review channels! Cheers!!

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Sebastian I am hugely thankful you found the channel!!!!!

@carloandyanne7019

Жыл бұрын

He really does have a very good sense of humor! Especially his facial expressions when he gets disappointed with every watch spec he reviews 😂

Possibly THE BEST watch channel and probably THE BEST watch video too, really enjoyed this one.

I mostly agree, but I love Tissot. A true Swiss brand that makes solid high quality watches for a very nice price. Iblike the T counterbalance on the Seastar 😁

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

No bad thing my friend and big respect!

@nobbynoris

Жыл бұрын

The watch that drew me into this preoccupation was a Tissot but I have to say, those huge Seastar chrono diver things are buttfuck ugly. And why the hell do you even need a chronograph complication on a diver watch anyway?

@davep8029

Жыл бұрын

I love my Tissot PR100. 39mm. Classic elegant styling. It's currently on a Hirsch lizard strap. I intensely dislike the new PRX, with the chunky angular lugs and bracelet styling.

@Spongefov

Жыл бұрын

the PRX 35mm sorts out that lug to lug problem, fits great for small/medium sized wrists and is well finished for the price (powermatic 35mm version coming soon also)

@aleksanderjohansen2008

Жыл бұрын

@@nobbynoris I agree. I specificly mean the Seastar 1000 36mm. So comfy on the wrist with the smaller size and super accurate. I hear they are releasing a thinner 40mm version of it that isnt huge like the 2000 or whatever its called.

Get hold of an Invicta Rolex copy for £50-£60 and you can’t go wrong. A decent Seiko movement and good water resistance makes for a great everyday beater that can be worn anywhere. I need and want my watches to be spot on accurate, so Casio models with time synchronisation or The Citizen with 5 seconds a year accuracy, or better, are my personal favourites. Quartz wins every time as far as I am concerned, although a mechanical watch with display back makes for an interesting display piece.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant machines for sure my friend!

@nobbynoris

Жыл бұрын

Quartz is the superior technology and this is indisputable. To me all the commentators that go on about the 'soul' of a mechanical watch are the same as those record collectors that will lecture you till your ears get gangrene about how 'warm vinyl sounds.

@manuel_winde

Жыл бұрын

@@nobbynoris would you genuinely say a £2/$2 quartz movement is undisputedly superior technology to a rolex or omega watch with metas/superlative chronometer spec? I know what I’d rather have 7 years down the line. (And ever day until then… and after)

@TheBlondygirl69

Жыл бұрын

@@nobbynoris you do realize that wax records are coming back in a big way right.

Citizen is an acquired taste IMHO. I used to ignore this brand because it seemed so boring. But later on in my watch journey I decided to give it a try and see what they offer for the domestic market (JDM). Now it's one of my favorite brands. I am glad that many people in the comments went through the similar discovery or shall I say "rediscovery" of this amazing brand that is unfortunately is misrepresented as just a department store throw away brand in the west.

@FAINING

10 ай бұрын

A good friend of mine has a Promastet pilot from many years. I got one Chrono Pilot used, changed the battery get original armis and I love it. The only "big watch" in my collection but with amazing specs, radiocontrolled. A watch to give to my unexisting grandsons.

I really love my Vostoks, theyve taken a lot of punishment and they are my daily drivers. But they definitely need a good replacement bezel and strap in order to look good.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and I respect your Vostok love!

@younusimam-thesalamproject6340

Жыл бұрын

@THE MAD WATCH COLLECTOR no problem with saying what you feel! I agreed with all the points you made on all the watches tbh. The Vostoks themselves definitely have their faults as well

My first "nice" watch I added to my collection was a Citizen Promaster Eco-Drive diver's watch. It has its own style without being weird looking, and it comes in mechanical versions as well (Fugu, anyone?). Besides the Promaster Marine line, there aren't any more watches of Citizen that I would buy. Maybe one of their titanium Eco-Drive watches, but barely.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Agreed and thank you my friend!

@ChrisJones-ki2bx

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I've got a fugi , it's a nice watch , with an eight o'clock crown, soft rubber strap and pretty accurate, about seven over a seconds a day fast , plus anti magnetic, all the bezel markers are on point and on the whole pretty happy with my purchase, Got three Seiko's in the same year and they aren't half as accurate and were nearly twice the price, especially after having to get a strapcode band which cost £128 , which took the samarai over£570 all told , which was nearly twice the price of the citizen, So value and quality I have to give it to the promaster fugi Also got my first Swiss watch which was a Hamilton khaki scuba desk diver, which has an ETA movement and on a three day power reserve only gain three seconds over 80hours Huge difference between the Seiko's and Hamilton, The Seiko's look better monster and samurai but cost a lot without the accuracy of the Swiss piece, still a four watch collection for under £2000 with warranties

@sfstoltenberg

Жыл бұрын

Over xmas I won a Citizen Promaster NY-0086 (Pepsi) from Jody at Just one more watch! I hadn't considered a Citizen before. Thought they were too much of a mall watch. But I have come to love the Promaster. It is just the right size. The pepsi bezel looks good, and I've regulated it to be around +/-4 or so. Damn good watch. I'm wearing it on a blue single pass zulu right now!

I love Tissot but you are correct about their lack of availability of 37-39 mm watches. They have a lot of affordable nice designs but many of them are 41 or above like the Visodates. Wish they made more of them at 38mm

You should really check out the JDM Citizen stock...they are really nice, classy, and timeless. The NB1050 line really took off here in the states, such nice watches that fill the SARB void now that Seiko dumped the line

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend! I really want to find a Citizen for me!!!!

@kewlger

Жыл бұрын

I'm not a citizen fan but I think this comment is very true. Seiko used to be like this too - the only nice watches they had were JDM

@Bonpu

Жыл бұрын

I recently had a glimpse at the Citizen annual business report with the executives mugshots in it. It looks like a darn retirement home's yearbook and it instantly made me understand why their watches look the way they do. I love Citizen for quality and specs, I think Eco Drive is awesome, I cherished my gnarly NY0040 auto diver for decades and it is still a great watch, but they really need to get their designs sorted out. I just can’t find anything remotely wearable, no matter how hard I'm trying (which applies to many popular brands btw.).

@TheGaztela

Жыл бұрын

@@Bonpu los diseños de Orient sí que son feos

Nice video, Russel. I just wanted to add a little correction about the Vostok Amfibias: they actually have all of them cases made of true stainless steel (not just plated) and also about Tissot: I know you are not a fan of dress watches but they got some pretty good offerings from their heritage line, the Le Locle, Carson, PR 16 with some nice finishing and sizing for them guys who just got into the hobby and want to buy a true mechanical watch with some decent ETA 2824 movement without spending a lot of cash. Cheers!

Russ I forgive you for not liking Tissot but not liking PP&J, that's to much to ask!😉

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

You are right obviously my friend! I’m gonna try it again!!!

@whywecollectwatches

Жыл бұрын

@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR I expect a video review of that.😂

@jaysterling26

Жыл бұрын

Agree, but why not include the hate for mint chop chip flavour ice cream? Me thinks if you don't like that, then ask for a stracciatella. Even pronouncing it correctly deserves a cone (esp. when tipsy).

Although I agree with most of your opinions about Citizen, they make some lovely watches if you are willing to pay 500 dolars plus. Jody reviewed one that looked like a grand seiko recently and it was lovely.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

He did but how boring was it!!!!;) they make Dan good watches that’s for sure!

@jaxylox9390

Жыл бұрын

And there no way I’d buy it over a GS

you had me at "display casebook on a quartz"!!!

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching till the end!!

That's the whole point of Vostok, they're super cheap and almost entirely unchanged since they were first created! You're basically purchasing new old stock, but actually new. It's just a breath of fresh air to purchase something utterly ridiculous and ancient for $80.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Lovely stuff my friend! They are great to tinker with , even I have!

@Fanasz

Жыл бұрын

I have ready that vostoks are very unreliable and fragile

@BenOwen152

Жыл бұрын

@@Fanasz That has not been my experience. I've had several and they've all been super robust. I use them as my beater watch, so they get quite abused and I've never had an issue. And eventually if/when I do, I'll drop it in the bin and pick up another one for $70.

The PRX is actually based on a Tissot Seastar from the 70's when everyone was on that same design bandwagon. Check out some of the Citizen Chronomasters. I certainly hope to own someday

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

I did a show on the PRX my friend. What Tissot didn’t make in the 70’s was a blue coloured waffle dial that’s a dead ringer for the Royal Oak.

Knowing how you like military watches and divers I can't believe you don't like the Citizen "lefty" automatic that was used for around ten years as the official dive watch of the Italian Navy straight out its very affordable box. Like its contemporary the SKX it has just been discontinued, though uprated and more expensive models are being released. You can still find original stock around for under £200. The full lume dial one is a future classic in my book.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

It’s a in general as a brand my friend . Not a watch . I fully expect to find one I like soon!

@stefpix

Жыл бұрын

@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR the NY0040 NY0100 series are nice. The titanium version is great. Nice dials. They hack and hand wind. On the quartz/solar side the Aqualand with the green dial, or the new BN0227 full lume diver are great tool watches, evolution of the legacy of historic divers. Seiko makes some amazing watches, but ugly ones as well.

Invicta is interesting. Used to hate them, but they're basically taking a piss at the stuffy Upper-crusty watch snobs.. Love wat they're doing

tbh, i love it when other enthusiasts don’t like citizen (my favourite brand). it means their prices on the secondary market, especially from japanese sites, are depressed relative to other brands. i don’t disagree with the common criticisms (most models are too large; dials are busy; odd and inconsistent design language), but their current and back catalog is so extensive that it’s still easy to find things to love.

@skyorsora

Жыл бұрын

the more hate citizen gets, the lower we get to buy them

Citizen JDM watches are better than those they release to US. I like the Tissot Gentleman. But I agree with your list overall.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching my friend!

Haha the display back on a quartz made me laugh. Citizen pulled it of doe.

Great video Russ but, I absolutely love my Citizen BM7251-53L. Like you've said in other comments, it took me a while to find one I liked and, after months of searching, that one stuck out to me the most. It's affordable, accurate, and is perfect for my office job or for a night out. One day, you'll see the light, lol.

Everyone got their own taste that is fine 😊 still I do love my boring Citizen Promaster 😅❤️

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

You do you my friend!! My opinion means nothing to what you want to put on your wrist!! All the best!

@sturmgold

Жыл бұрын

@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR You are a true Gentleman ☺️ thank you for your wonderful content!

I agree sometimes it feels like a hive mind, but Invicta does release some vintage inspired watches in shocker, vintage sizes like that chronograph or small seconds, it's quartz but they are well priced and you have multiple color ways to choose, I've heard they're good for the price, Invicta's mostly make big ugly mutant looking watches but when they make a good design in a good size, they got it out of the park

@SingleTrackMined

Жыл бұрын

I have 4 Invictae - 2 Pro Diver 40mm NH35, a 1953 40mm NH35 and a quartz Speedway chronograph. They are all excellent quality watches and I paid less than $300 for all. Everyone sees the gaudy abominations and thinks 'that's Invicta' and it is. But so is 'classy homage watches' and in the 1953 understated style.

Completely with you on four out of the five. And while I love Citizen as a brand, I must admit your criticisms are [mostly] valid. 👍

Regarding Citizen I certainly do not agree. In fact I think that 9 series movement by Citizen is unbeatable by Seiko. Thin, 4hz and very accurate and reliable movement. Seiko must be the only brand in the world making $1500 watches with 3hz movements inside.

Another quality video Russ! However I have to say I do love my citizen diver as well as my Vostok just out of sheer uniqueness. For brands to add to the list I’m not particularly in love with Tag Huer and Rolex. (Even though I can respect the brand heritage and their importance in horology)

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Jacob! Totally respect that my friend!! All the best to you!

Most modern Tudors. Hate 'em. Looks like Mom and Dad got really excited because little Timmy used all the shapes when he drew the dial and hands. Circles and squares and triangles and diamonds and rectangles...and well....we're kind of out of room for more shapes, so that'll be enough.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha love this!!!

Ah, but there must be some love for the Citizen Pro Master NY0040..a direct competitor with the Seiko SKX007, and a proper dive watch to boot! Mines the fully lumed dial version & is, as you Brits say, a cracking great watch for the money.

Aside from the Vostok brand, we're in complete agreement. I'm kind of glad you didn't include Casio. An Oceanus T-200 was picked up a couple weeks ago and it's excellent. So good that a G-Shock Rangeman is next on the to-get list.

Hands down best video you’ve ever made!!! I really love and appreciate the honesty (And I do have 2 Vostoks 😂 total nostalgic/vintage looking beaters to save some Others ;) I would trust them for depth diving and I do tinker with their mechanics so type 2 person on your list) Don’t worry I have plenty of G Shocks too! THANKS FOR A GREAT VIDEO!!! Keep it up!

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching my friend!

Another good episode. I’ve never really thought about brands I don’t like to much, but if I was to think about it quickly: Bulova, San Martin, Cartier, Accurist, would all come to mind. Slightly off topic, but I am starting to question the pricing of certain luxury stainless steel automatic watches, but that’s not to say I don’t like them (edited for clarity).

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough my friend!

Excellent points all around, especially on AP and Tissot. You captured my thoughts exactly on Citizen too!

Spot on Russ spot on. You could easily add many more to the list, but yes, I wish some of these brands released new ones based on their true roots and embraced the vintage again.

Amphibias are stainless (I own three) Komandirskie are plated brass. Amphibias are plain old workhorses, Komandirskie are wind up toys.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Vostok fan!!!! Absolutely great my friend!

@DanaTheInsane

Жыл бұрын

@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR My passion is classic Accutron, but my 090 case Scuba Dude is my go to watch when I want to wear something that will take a beating!

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

@@DanaTheInsane superb my friend!

Citizen Promaster line, auto and eco drive, is quite nice. The NY0040 with the ink black dial and overall design is quite nicer than the Seiko SKX, which I do not regret selling. Some of the new Promaster titanium are nice. But many department store citizen watches are boring. The Promaster line should be marketed as a sub brand

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

I’ll check these out my friend!!!

@markcherone5411

Жыл бұрын

I have a 10 year old Eli Manning limited edition eco drive. It's a tank and beautiful

@stefpix

Жыл бұрын

@@markcherone5411 I have the NY0040 and NY0100 titanium with solid bracelet, and they are beautiful.. I put the NY0040 on a generic engineer bracelet. When I had the Seiko skx I really did not like it as much. The Citizen has such a beautiful dial. I have the BN0151, the eco drive diver. I like it too, although I find the NY have more attractive dials and cases. But now there is a new BN with orange dial I want to see, and the BN0227 full lume that appeals to me.

@markcherone5411

Жыл бұрын

@@stefpix I would love to track down the blue rubber bracelet but no idea if it exists at this point.

@stefpix

Жыл бұрын

@@markcherone5411 the BN0151 comes with the blue rubber band. I do not like the bands with the accordion folds. Actually it looks nice with an orange band

I agreed with everything you said!…… Except Peanut Butter and Jam!!!!!!!! It’s delicious 😋 so is marmite and cheddar cheese! Added with sandwich spread and you’re made!!!!! As for watches, I’ve never understood Gucci watches! Probably the most expensive fashion branded watch and….. just…… No!

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

I need to try it again!!!

I have been modding and building watches for many years some of the dials on the Vostok like the Scuba Dude are in the top drawer and a nice one but yes most others are gash. The automatic movement is very very reliable but all of the watches I have modded and kept in my Collection use Seiko Movements as the parts are so much earlier to get hold!

The only person on KZread that is brave enough to vocalize his opinion on Citizen AND Tissot. And he’s not wrong either 😂

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching my friend!!!

@simonadkins9929

Жыл бұрын

Tissot are great watches I absolutely love the silicium powermstic 80 iand the PRX is a lovely piece … imho

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

@@apegrasshoplizard no bad thing my friend

@NathanChisholm041

Жыл бұрын

He's certainly wrong about citizen and the amount they sell tells a difference story. Citizen pound for pound blows Seiko out off the water...

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

@@NathanChisholm041 he???? Who do you think sees this comment first son? Think I gave the brand huge praise ????? They just don’t make a watch I like? I guarantee a lot of your watches is never buy just the same as you probably wouldn’t like mine! You can’t say I’m wrong as it’s my opinion ;)

A lot of great points! I kind of feel the same about Tissot. The "T" counterbalance looks terrible and I'm not a big fan of how the prx sits on the wrist, although, I would love to own a Tissot gentleman. I don't have to financially struggle with the decision, but can we mention Richard Mille!? I just don't get it, I know, movement, status, watch making, but the things are horrific looking. I mean, at least half of those invictas and the AP concept are just chasing that "style". That AP concept is their obvious answer to the popularity of RM in that space. It's a great case of "don't forget what got you there". All of that being said, I have my eyes fixated on longines for my next watch. (I think). Now just to narrow down which one! P.S. the Vostok fanclub is coming for you.😂🤣

@FRST2012

Жыл бұрын

I have to echo your comments on Richard Mille. I just don’t get it. It looks like something you Would get free in a box of cereal.

@mrmagoo.3678

Жыл бұрын

@@FRST2012 I'm with You'z on the R.M thing, but I've had a few Tissots and they've left a good mark on Me, I like 'em.. not ALL of them, some of the designs I'm not keen on, but I think they really hit it with the PRX's..all of them.

@robertmorano2372

Жыл бұрын

@@FRST2012 agreed. Like one of my kids toys where it has a paw patrol walkie talkie built into it. That's all I can see.

@robertmorano2372

Жыл бұрын

@@mrmagoo.3678 I like the prx and admittedly have never tried one on or even handled one. In all of the photos I have seen, it just seems to lay goofy on the wrist. I would happily own one, but the Tissot gentleman just speaks to me. It seems like that "do all" watch. It makes me want to send the kids to grandma and grandpa's, pack a bag, grab the tissot gentleman and a few straps and take the wife somewhere on a long weekend getaway. That watch just seems like it would fit in and be a joy to wear all over the place.

@mrmagoo.3678

Жыл бұрын

@@robertmorano2372 I think I might be biased towards Tissot Maybees, they were my first 'Swiss Made' so I think I look through Rose tinted specs when I look at Tissot, but them PRX really tickle that spot for Me :)

I have owned close to a dozen Vostok watches. Most of them had to be serviced as soon as they arrived.

Invicta: I agree. If you want a bulky watch, get a G-shock, at least the bulkiness here gives it protection and functions. AP, VC, etc.: I won't ever spend that much money on a watch anyway, so I don't care. Tissot: I do like the PRX (although they should make a mid-sized variant, which I would probably buy) and the Khaki FIeld, it has a huge history too, but most of their watches are boring to me, like Longines. It's not necessarily bad, I just don't see a point in getting one. Citizen: I do like the "eco-friedly" trend, but they rarely present something that catches my attention. At one time I was choosing between their NY0084-89EE and the limited 5KX. Got the 5KX in the end. Vostok: since I'm Russian (btw, in Russian it sounds like [Vuh-stÓk]), I want the factory to keep their production and improve. I think It will be almost impossible for them to get their own sapphire production or some new movements due to the sanctions and the overall situation, but they do make some improved models using Chinese parts (dials, crystals, hands, but they keep the factory movement). The price on these models is higher (±$200-300), so it's more for the enthusiasts. The regular cheap Kommandirskiye are more targeted towards the old people, who just want a cheap watch. I don't like this series, although they make some decent looking Kommandirskiye for the higher price range. I like the Amphibia though (particularly the 120 case)! The crown is very easy to operate after getting used to it, they're cheap, durable, basically it's a mechanical retro G-shock. You can change the factory bezel and the strap and get a good looking customized watch for a 100 dollars. Also you can make your own design with your company or your friends-enthusiasts and make it come true, if they're able to produce what you want (starting from 10 pieces, I think). Their biggest minus is marketing: the range is way too wide and all over the place, maybe some models shouldn't even exist. But I hope they will keep the production and keep the factory. Of course, I also hope that the ongoing madness will end this year, sane people here don't need that, it's a huge tragedy started by the well-known person for the sake of keeping his chair. Sorry for the long text!

Citizen are a great brand, top notch quality at decent prices but you’re absolutely right about their designs, I can’t find a single one I like either!!

I agree with you concerning Invicta. That being said, I just had to buy one of their Superman watches and have a Batman watch on the way! Probably the only Invictas I’ll ever buy but they were cheap and fun looking.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

I hear you my Steamy friend!! Nothing wrong with that at all!!!

PRX is a reissue of their own watch not a homage of the AP. In my opinion, really the only thing that's the same is they both have integrated bracelets. Different case shapes, different bracelet design, etc

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

And a waffle dial and blue colour the same as an AP! That was the first release , the different dial colours have hidden that fact now but it’s fine, good business from the Swatch group!

@17arando

Жыл бұрын

@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Ah that is true, dial did match up. I got it in black so it doesn't look so similar at a glance, but that blue really is edging too close. Not as bad as the Maurice Lacroix Aikon though, for me that's a straight homage

@dejvcz9473

Жыл бұрын

@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Just because it has waffle dial doesn't mean its homage. Even if the blue dial is kinda close it, I wouldn't call it homage, maybe it's just me, but I don't see it.🤷

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

@@dejvcz9473 come on man! It was no accident. Put the colours up together it’s the same;) it’s a plain as Bulgarian pin up !

I am a Citizen fanboy myself but I get your point there (somewhat). However, I still think that some of the watches from the Chronomaster line or from the Nature Collection (e.g. CITIZEN NB1060-12L) line are just fantastic

Awesome video. Thanks. Totally enjoy it. Pretty much agree with you.

Loved this episode - and heartily agree with everything you said. Also agree that ketchup is gross and cricket is mind numbingly boring. I'd love to see you do a review of the Tag Heuer Aquaracer Professional 200 date (esp with the blue dial). It's a gorgeous watch, 40mm case and I think it would be right up your alley.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend! It does need to be done!

Great video Russ. I think you are well justified with some of these!

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend!

I do have a few Citizens and think they are great watches for the money. Very reliable, keep great time, and think the models I purchased look good. With this said I have become a a Sekoholic and have purchased 4 of them within the last year in addition to a Hamilton khaki king. I also love my Casio G-shocks. I do not own any high end watches but enjoy what I own today. I have been eying the Tudor BB58 blue dial. Maybe one day I will purchase one. I am just too cheap and afraid I would abuse it. I really enjoyed this video and happy you got this off your chest! I would love to hear your wife’s opinion on the Invicta Gladiator😂

I agree ..Invicta / Vostok is an absolute No Go !!

The 70s have a lot to answer for! And I’m not just talking about “flares” and “platform shoes.”😆 On his maiden flight into space, Yuri Gagarin didn’t wear a Boctok. He wore a Poljot Strumanskie (Navigator). A very nice watch (33mm case). I have a reissue of that particular watch.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha

I'm a fan of the Rolex homages from Invicta and I love the Citizen Eco-Drives that I own, but your criticisms are all valid. We all see value and style in watches differently so it's always fun to see what other people think about the various brands out there. I will say that you've opened my eyes to how good some of the Casio models are.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha well thank you my friend!

I ❤my Citizen BN0118-55E! treated titanium, solar powered, sapphire glass, 300m water resistance, great lume! It's my grown up tough watch for work!

Usually I hate episodes like this because some creators insult the people who buy these watches. Thank you sir for being so polite you are a mad gentleman. I love my 58mm and my 36 mm watches. The only watches I don't like are time pieces that are expensive for low quality. Some of these cheap brands are saught -after because of there name like Timex.

We're all different (I'm not) but I would have to agree with you for most of these brands. The brands that get my goat are most of the fashion labels that sell cheap watches with a label and sell them for a crazy price. Fashions move fast these days (allegedly) so there is a chance that a fashion watch will be so last year and ignored well before its battery leaps of its mortal coil. Fortunately that tends to affect the fashion conscious buyer so shouldn't apply to me.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Anthony! Appreciate you watching my friend! Fashion watches are yuk especially the ones that are 2 bucks to make but 500 bucks to buy!

Vostok rocks. Philistine!!!😉

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Point taken!!! Thanks for watching!

Great video! I agree with all your picks.

Always love the history and your authentic opinion. Your videos are great craic, and genuinely entertaining - great work bud 👏

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that a lot my friend thank you!

I love the Tissot PRX LOL! All good though, I get it. Really starting to get some serious hate for Rolex. I talked to a Rolex snob last week that just could not understand that I was not interested in a Rolex over a Tudor or Omega. I was so close to being like you need to expand your horizon my friend, they are not the only show in town.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!!!!

I agree with much of your choices. I always say JLC should take AP place in the trinity. I also add that I pretty much despise Rolex. They are not at all about the watches.. it's all about the hype, wealth flexing, and elite. Just my 2cents. I also have to say...I bought a Vostok after all the youtubers talked about em...and it is rubbish lol. But it's still kind of neat IMO to have a Russian made in house movement. Kind of an odd duck. It's rarely worn though lol.

@plektosgaming

9 ай бұрын

Rolex that were made in the 60s and 70s, though, were built like tanks and last a lifetime. Back then they were like the other Swiss makers and competed side by side. Then came the 80s and the era of bling and insane prices. For example, in 1965, a basic Oyster Perpetual was $175. ($1698 today). A similar quality 1965 Longines was $140 (my dad got one as a graduation gift from college - about $1300 in today's money). But nothing like the insanity we see now. Reaching to spend $140-175 USD back in 1965 was a lot, but not impossible if you really wanted it. But now.. $6000 for a "poverty spec" Rolex? No way.

Peanut butter and strawberry jam, heavenly mixture! And cricket is fine for a weekend's gentle entertainment.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

I need to try it more!!!!!

Can see your point of view however the friction bezel on the Vostok is better than the ratcheting unidirectional bezel. For this reason alone it is really easy to use as a countdown timer whereas the unidirectional you have to spin it a few times. Regarding the unidirectional function of most dive watches it is just a fantasy they hardly ever take them to the BEACH let alone diving. Had taken my vostok to the beach many times over the summer and didn't even think about it. A Sicko guy would not wear their Sicko watch LOL....

Let me start by saying I got into mechanical/automatic watches in 2019 because of a coworker. One day he mentioned Vostok and told me that they were a Russian brand. I had absolutely no idea that the Russians produced wrist watches. I then began checking them out on KZread and about a week later ordered my first Vostok watch. Today I own about ten to twelve Vostok watches, mostly Amphibias and a couple of Komandirskies, and love modding them! I don't know exactly what it is about these watches that I'm so drawn too, but love them nonetheless. I also have several Seikos, a Hamilton, a couple of Orient watches, and a couple of Chinese watches in my watch collection. P.S. I coincide with you that Invicta watches are just absolutely hideous. 🤢🤮

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching my friend and thank you to your friends Vostoks for getting you into watches!

@mattiasfolkesson5625

Жыл бұрын

Not all invictas is hiddious 😉 i love the pro diver or 1953 diver, Great for Modding 👍✌️

@hgr.7857

Жыл бұрын

My brotha! Your story is so close to mine it is simply eerie. My coworker wore a Vostok (scuba dude) that got me interested in mechanical autos; I didn't know one could be had for relatively low cost - I thought Rolex & Omega had the only sweeping seconds hands. Got an Amphibia, an Orient Mako II, then a Seiko 5. Fast forward & I have 13 various Vostoks, like you, mostly Amphibias, a couple Komandirskes. I really have a fondness for the round Amohibs, but the weird "barrel" case/cushion case versions are wild, too! Orients are my go-to for modding bc the parts are easy to find. The war in Ukraine has turned Vostoks I to a bit more of a collectible so I'm leaving mine stock (except for swapping out those dreadful pressed folded braclets, ugh). It's a full-on addiction, but a harmless one. I'm about to throw down on my first "luxury" tool watch, and am 🔥d up for it: the Soon-to-be mine Sinn 104 I St Sa. Next, and it'll have to wait for a while, the Seiko SARB017 (OG Alpinist) 💸💸💸💸

Great show 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Tag Heuer for me, can't think of one watch of theirs that I would want to spend my money on.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@e28forever30

Жыл бұрын

Their Quartz watches are waaaaay overpriced.

Great video! Who else does a display back on a quartz besides Invicta? Grand Seiko has some special 9F releases and, more affordable, Islander Watches come to mind with the Amerigraph. Can’t afford the GS yet myself but I must admit I love seeing the decorated electronics on my Islander.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Haven’t seen the Amerigraph however MARC is proud of having an American made movement in his watches! And the 9F’ are beautifully finished!

That was again a great fun!!i was laughing from the beginning until the end!! Quarz movement with showcase back, you just nailed it!!! Great show, Russ!!!

All fair points 😂 I do love my Eco Drives. I see Jody finally found a Citizen he likes. Of course it's a JDM model. They do get props for making the most accurate quartz movement, the Caliber 0100 +/- 1 Second a year is nothing to sneeze at 🤣. Another awesome vid Russ! ❤

@claytonberg721

Жыл бұрын

The JDM chronomasters are fantastic.

@bogrot69

Жыл бұрын

@@claytonberg721 Yes, I saw Jody's recent review on his. He had a similar attitude toward Citizen until he saw the Chronomaster

My first good mechanical watch was a Vostok. I have several of them, both old (ussr) and new. The komandirkie line has the chrome plated brass cases and the cartoonish dials that you were referring to. They are traditionally 100m wr and hand wound. They were origanilly designed for the red army as field watches. The amphibia was always a much more serious watch and always came with SS case and 200mwr. a few special early models had 300mwr and are rare and collectable. The soviet era amphibia also had a hand wound movement. They transitioned to an automatic movement around the time of the USSR collapse. Almost all of the soviet era and most of the current amphibias have more "Serious" functional dials. In the past few years they have been making "high end" komandirskies that use the auto movement from amphibia and have SS cases with 200wr blurring the line between the 2 tiers of watches. Conversely, they have also been putting some of the cartoony looking komandirskie dials on amphibias. blurring the lines even further. The tank you were showing was originally a komandirskie dial. The movement does not have a high beat count, but it is made in house to this day. It is extemely reliable, can be fairly accurate and It is easy to adjust and tinker with. There are several case styles and sizes to choose from so you can find something to compliment almost any wrist size. The biggest downside that you did not mention is that due to recent events in eastern europe, availabilty is down, prices have risen so the $80 watch is now closer to $100-120 to over $200. Delivery takes forever and a day and getting replacement parts are getting more difficult to find. Lastly, depending upon the political views of the company you keep, you may get some hate for wearing a Russian watch. For approximately the same amount of money you can get a Seiko powered Heimdallar Seestern or Steeldive from Ali express for the same money and arguably better quality. There are also kits on Ali express to make your own custom Seiko powered watch for around the same price. Since they all use Seiko NH35 and 36 movements, they can modded easily and cheaply as well. You can also get a nice mid-tier Orient for around the same money as some of the Amphibia SE models, with definitely better quality. I kind of agree with you that Vostok might belong on this list but for much different reasons ,as I just mentioned. I just dont feel like they are the bargain that they used to be and there are better alternatives at this time.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

This was all well said my friend. I still see Vostok as a gateway into mechanical movements. Unfortunately everything has gone up in price to!:/

@betulaobscura

8 ай бұрын

True! I was going to write almost the same...

Great show Russell! I have to agree with every one of those brands. I really wish there was a Citizen or a Tissot that I wanted because they're great brands that are steeped in history, but I'm yet to come across a watch from either that makes me look twice. Not that they don't produce great quality watches, they just don't float my boat! 🤷‍♂️

You lost me at Citizen. Edit: I did watch all the way through and totally agree with Tissot. I don't understand the hype behind the PRX and have stated elsewhere that it dates itself with something that was actually released during the 70's. I have a Citizen dive watch that cost less than $300/U.S. and is powered by any light source and I have been swimming with it several times. Tissot has a quartz dive watch for over $500. And is huge.

I don't just question the taste of someone who claims that peanut butter and jelly don't go together, I question their sanity, their morality, even their humanity.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha you are absolutely right!!!!

New sub here, watch enthusiast and amateur collector (meaning I can't afford to spend thousands on my watches 😂) but I love you're videos! Highly entertaining and very well made, if I might say so. Hilarious. Keep up the great work! Thanks

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

You are very kind my friend! Thank you for finding the channel and welcome aboard!!

Slowly beginning too love your channel , at first i thought what the ....... ,but now i just subbed . Brilliant more informative than you think .Love your off the cuff style .

Great video and great list, I agree with it, thanks!

Orient has fallen out of favour with me. Their Bambino (Gen II, ver 2 - white sunburst dial with rose gold hands and numerals) was my first ever mechanical watch, thanks to TGV of course. Loved it to bits, even if it was a bit chunky for a dress watch, and I was sure I'd buy a Ray or Mako as a diver next... but now several years later, none of their watches appeals to me. There's always just something that makes their designs feel off to me. Whether it's the dial, hands, numerals, date window, adding open heart... Even the Kamasu just gets a 'meh' from me.

@BenOwen152

Жыл бұрын

I agree! For me (at least with their sport watches) it's their obsession with the Day/Date complication. I don't even like date complications on a watch, but who doesn't know what day it is? It's an ugly and useless complication. And they are not the value they once were.

Invicta is too mad for even the Mad Watch Collector.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Way too mad!!!!

Awesome video as usual sir, it’s definitely a proven that each company has that one model that is truly class, it’s a shame that the greed for money which equals production dilutes class and innovation.

Great video Russ. That’s the great thing about watches, it’s horses for courses. Have to say I really like Vostocks, I just do but to be honest they are by and large low quality. There’s just something endearing about them.

I like Citizen. I like Vostok. I agree with your other choices though. Each to their own, it's what makes watch collecting so fun. If someone's happy wearing a massive gaudy Invicta then good on em, I say !!!

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

I’m with you Paul!

@Fanasz

Жыл бұрын

I was looking at radijo control eco drive titanium but got into mechanical and got myself orient open heart, fag series

There is only ONE Tissot I like, it's the PRX Powermatic 80...

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely my friend!

Thank you for another great video mate. I enjoyed every second. Please keep it coming.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching my friend !

If I'm being honest, Grand Seiko is a brand which has no design which really speaks to me. I have tried to like them, because everyone kinda does - but I'd rather pick up a couple of Vostoks. (;

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

GET Y’VOSTOKS OUT!!! No bad thing my friend!

I would add IWC, but I may be in the minority with that take. I just don't see the appeal at the prices they sell for. 100% agree with cricket , I don't care for any sport where the matches last longer than my Hamilton's 80 hour power reserve, thank you.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha absolutely love this my friend!!!!

I do agree, except on the Citizen side. I would have put Seiko there, but to be fair, I’ve got little experience with Seiko watches. Love the channel Russ.

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend and I appreciate the support and comments!

I agree with you on this except the peanut butter and jam statement! Invicta looks like the type of Watch d-bags would wear to impress people they don’t know.

Jeez Russel... It felt like you were kicking my sister. Citizen? Tissot?! 😢

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Sorry my friend! It’s only my opinion it means nothing in terms of what you like!!!!! I promise to get a Citizen for the collection this year but need to find one I want!!!!

@johanvandersandt8904

Жыл бұрын

@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Its okay bud... We all like what we like otherwise the world would be a boring place!

@themadwatchcollector I love your channel... But you broke my heart when you said Citizen!

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Sorry my friend!!!! But I did big the brand up!!!!

@Mrletmehelp

Жыл бұрын

@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR I'm kidding, for sure brands are a personal thing. I'm a Citizen sucker like you're a Seiko sucker. Not everything they do is great but I've got some solid nostalgia, like my first dress watch being a corporate prize my dad won at a conference and my first solar watch was a Citizen Eco-drive from my wife 😀

I appreciate the honesty. I do have a Citizen eco-drive Chronograph that’s on the dressy side that I like. I also have a Tissot Le Locle dress watch that I love, but I don’t care for much of their other models. Invicta is hideous. Vostok (Boctok): I’ve just never understood the hype. They don’t appeal to me. I recently went through all the current models of PP, VC, and AP to see which ones I actually like. AP was the lowest on the list. I do like the Royal Oak much more than the Nautilus (which I actually think is ugly), but even then, it doesn’t justify top tier honors.

I agree with you especially about the peanut butter

Great list, I agree with some of them! However, the Vostok and Vostok Europe are completely different brands, Vostoks are manufactured in Russia, while the Europe ones are manufactured in Lithuania(where I am from), while both of them have very "interesting" designs to say the least, I think the Vostok Europe is far superior with the build quality and movement choices! Cheers!

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Pleasure to have you come and watch a show my friend!

100% agree regarding Vostok. All the KZread vids about them, then you take a look online and the design is something an 11 year old would come up with. Good vid Russ

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching my friend!

I used to agree with you about Citizen but I picked up a NB1060-12l and its a stunner

I agree with citizen, however I have to say that the Nighthawk is a banger of a watch

Brands I hate? I hate designer brands selling watches like Hugo boss etc Cringeworthy junk with a premium price tag

@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!!!!