Was Pep or Messi the KEY to Barcelona's famous 2011 team? | The Football Show

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Dave Jones is joined by Jamie Redknapp, Jamie Carragher and author of the book Barça: The Making of the Greatest Team in the World - Graham Hunter. Graham offers an insight into the famous 2011 Barca team who dominated Manchester United in the Champions League final - and answers questions regarding who was more important to that team, Pep or Messi.
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  • @seven92023
    @seven920234 жыл бұрын

    This Barca team was perfection. The whole 2010-11 season was a footballing masterclass. And the best thing happened at the end when Xavi and Puyol gave the captain's armband to Abidal and let him lift the CL trophy first because he just had recovered from liver cancer and had surgery. More than a club!

  • @seven92023

    @seven92023

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Poseidon Van Persie did something stupid and got deserved second yellow card. Still Barca had to score 2 goals after to go through.

  • @melvyn.871

    @melvyn.871

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gareth messi got a few yellow cards in la liga for doing exactly what RVP did, especially during the 2008-2013 seasons.

  • @seven92023

    @seven92023

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@frimers Yes he did something stupid kicking the ball away when he already had yellow card. It doesn't matter how many seconds it was after the whistle. There is favoritism when the card is deserved.

  • @tombutler6451

    @tombutler6451

    4 жыл бұрын

    It doesn’t matter what decisions went against Arsenal Chelsea & Barca themselves as there is no denying Barcelona were the dogs bollocks for a good 5 year period 🤷🏼‍♂️ untouchable 👌🏻

  • @G17x

    @G17x

    3 жыл бұрын

    Facts mate, sad to see them fell down real freaking hard lad

  • @cameronhansell8367
    @cameronhansell83674 жыл бұрын

    When Alex Ferguson says hes never got destroyed that much in a football match you know that Barcelona team was the best

  • @holysmokes8117

    @holysmokes8117

    Жыл бұрын

    The only team who ever destroyed man u is barca 2 di al lost in ucl 09-11

  • @christolland6386
    @christolland63864 жыл бұрын

    Could listen to Graham Hunter all day, articulates his points brilliantly

  • @seanmc3017

    @seanmc3017

    4 жыл бұрын

    A voice as smooth as his bald head.

  • @parodybamford705

    @parodybamford705

    4 жыл бұрын

    Was he talking about messi when he said he's miles and miles better than maradona or was he talking about pele

  • @Kugann

    @Kugann

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@parodybamford705 messi is miles ahead of maradona he said.

  • @user-kn4gx5ih7m

    @user-kn4gx5ih7m

    4 жыл бұрын

    Try listen to his terrible commentary

  • @claudemakelele2856

    @claudemakelele2856

    4 жыл бұрын

    A clown to say Messi is miles better than Maradona. Still bitter about 1986.

  • @Slim-MMA
    @Slim-MMA4 жыл бұрын

    They reached the pinnacle of football, I don’t care what anyone says.

  • @ketanpatel3198

    @ketanpatel3198

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea needed help from dodgy officials sending of van persie and pepe though

  • @Slim-MMA

    @Slim-MMA

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ketan Patel Barcelona absolutely dominated both of those sides before the red cards. It wouldn’t have made a difference. Hope that helps.

  • @ketanpatel3198

    @ketanpatel3198

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Slim-MMA they were losing vs arsenal mate with half an hour to go and pepe sending of changed the game." I hope that helps" if you cant see that I think you need help.

  • @Slim-MMA

    @Slim-MMA

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ketan Patel You won’t mention how Messi’s away goal was wrongly disallowed for offside. Hope that helps.

  • @sreenathasv5771

    @sreenathasv5771

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Slim-MMA why are you even arguing with this guy, he just follows the English media and argues about stuff that happened 10 years back

  • @abcdefg3214
    @abcdefg32144 жыл бұрын

    Pep had the greatest midfield of all time, luis enrique had the best forward line of all time.. But both had the greatest player of all time!

  • @Travis015

    @Travis015

    4 жыл бұрын

    The best forward of all time ? How about ronaldo roony and tevez and ronaldinho Thierry Henry messi thers so many great front 3

  • @abcdefg3214

    @abcdefg3214

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Travis015 Neymar suarez and messi were the best front three of all time.. No front three comes close what are you smokin

  • @timothypeters6694

    @timothypeters6694

    4 жыл бұрын

    Abcdefg32 1 you clearly know nothing about football with that statement How does no front three come close Rivaldo , Ronaldinho and Ronaldo isn’t far off and same with the ones already mentioned

  • @abcdefg3214

    @abcdefg3214

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@timothypeters6694 450 apps, 342 goals and 170 assists between the three in 3 years... They are the greatest front three of all time, do you even watch football, or understand it ya absolute clown

  • @abcdefg3214

    @abcdefg3214

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@timothypeters6694 haha sorry 364 total goals.. Tevez rooney ronaldo in 2 years scored 140 goals.. Messi neymar and suarez scored 131 in a single season.. It takes a fool not to see they were the greatest 3 of all time and im glad i got to see them twice

  • @UKSTRAINS88
    @UKSTRAINS884 жыл бұрын

    Pep was the door & Messi was the key.

  • @amanplayz518

    @amanplayz518

    4 жыл бұрын

    UK STRAINS pep is a fraud he has always had it easy anyone could manage that Barca side

  • @amanplayz518

    @amanplayz518

    4 жыл бұрын

    LarsHD yeah they would just look at that side

  • @fuad_a7

    @fuad_a7

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@amanplayz518 deluded.

  • @Oa1565

    @Oa1565

    4 жыл бұрын

    @LarsHD tbf I would like to see how pep would do without the money and players at his team.

  • @keyuantejohnson6266

    @keyuantejohnson6266

    4 жыл бұрын

    unpopular opinion bob paisley and brian clough>pep and fergie

  • @TALHASLAYS
    @TALHASLAYS4 жыл бұрын

    Pep Guardiola : I want to make him the best player , but he ended making me the best coach ... 🙃

  • @hulk8384

    @hulk8384

    2 жыл бұрын

    🐐🐐

  • @zsn2508
    @zsn25084 жыл бұрын

    this guy knows his stuff

  • @simonforrest2522

    @simonforrest2522

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Graham Hunter is the oracle of Spanish football..So clued up it's frightening

  • @RoyalBlue292
    @RoyalBlue2924 жыл бұрын

    Ray Hudson "take a look at this people, this is the art of human. Messi don't make defender's cry, he makes them wear diapers"

  • @mariuspatru7

    @mariuspatru7

    4 жыл бұрын

    you are right. but it's defenders, no apostrophe

  • @RoyalBlue292

    @RoyalBlue292

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mariuspatru7 really?

  • @mariuspatru7

    @mariuspatru7

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RoyalBlue292 yep. there are just too many mistakes online man, just trying to make people be better, otherwise we'll be ok with anything and everybody ends up with low standards of everything - it starts from small adjustments like this bro. yes, it's not adjustment's

  • @RoyalBlue292

    @RoyalBlue292

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mariuspatru7 😂😂😂

  • @hulk8384

    @hulk8384

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mariuspatru7 😂😂

  • @4eyesreacts
    @4eyesreacts4 жыл бұрын

    For me, mascherano is one of the most under rated players in the last 10 years.

  • @fredrikdahl1230

    @fredrikdahl1230

    4 жыл бұрын

    He was a world class defender in his prime (in barcelona) for sure. He was rated 86 in fifa 12 and 13. Not bad. Obviously he wasnt prime thiago Silva or anything like that, because Thiago Silva is arguably the best defender of this time. But he is one of the more underrated players for sure.

  • @Azza-pq3gq

    @Azza-pq3gq

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fredrikdahl1230 lol

  • @mdayan6635

    @mdayan6635

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fredrik Dahl Ramos is the best of this generation

  • @WafcPassion
    @WafcPassion4 жыл бұрын

    Best ever footballing side, transcended the game. Poetry on the pitch

  • @konzaros7482
    @konzaros74824 жыл бұрын

    i to this day have never seen a more one sided final before, not in terms of score line, but in terms of outplaying the opposition. madrid can have their 3 in a row all they want, fact is, any non madrid deluded fan knows that barca 2011 are the GREATEST club side ever.

  • @claudemakelele2856

    @claudemakelele2856

    4 жыл бұрын

    Greatest club side that couldn't win two UCLs in a row. Lol. They were helped by refs most of the time.

  • @edwinndirangu659

    @edwinndirangu659

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@claudemakelele2856 On point man. Plus that 2015 Barca team blew nearly all their 2011 records off the water.

  • @kevin-pu2lx

    @kevin-pu2lx

    4 жыл бұрын

    How an earth did Chelsea knock out the Barcelona team

  • @claudemakelele2856

    @claudemakelele2856

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kevin-pu2lx they were miles better but I guess karma is real.

  • @bossman1341

    @bossman1341

    4 жыл бұрын

    100%. Madrid with the 3 in a row looks better on paper but that Barca side were the most dominant by a mile. Ridiculous team. They beat madrid in 2011 5-0 ffs and absolutely made them look like a league 2 side. Madrid were a top team themselves and had a prime Ronaldo Benzema ramos alonso Marcelo benzema etc

  • @danuvilla
    @danuvilla4 жыл бұрын

    This guy knows his stuff

  • @faris_02

    @faris_02

    4 жыл бұрын

    Obviously because he’s a Spanish football journalist

  • @MANUTD4LIFE171
    @MANUTD4LIFE1714 жыл бұрын

    I think with how Spain won the World Cup it’s fair to say that the rest of those players in Barcelona’s team where all top drawer players, however I do feel that Messi was the main reason Barcelona won all that they did. Messi was in his absolute prime back then, and it was a joke how good he was. The guy was completely unplayable..

  • @sshszn

    @sshszn

    4 жыл бұрын

    Respect what your saying but messi didn’t have a prime. Nor he still doesn’t. In 2012 he scored 91 goals. Last season 18/19 was his most most most most complete ever. And this season he until the break completed double the dribbled he’s ever did. Double!! That being said messi was injured from summer this season all the way until December. And he also played 2 months in muscle discomfort because Barcelona only had 13 members from the first team available. It’s crazy.

  • @MANUTD4LIFE171

    @MANUTD4LIFE171

    4 жыл бұрын

    SSH SZN Everyone has a prime or a peak, and Messi’s best year was without a doubt 2012. 91 goals he scored that year, his next best being 2010 when he scored 60. The rest of his career he has generally been in the 50s. Still a ridiculous effort to score 50 goals in a season, so I’m not in any way trying to disrespect that, as even to this day I still think he is playing like one of the greatest players of all time. CR7 is the only other player in history who has consistently scored more than 50 a season, or in a calendar year. So yeah Messi is still an amazing player today and deserved the Ballon Dor this year, but for me he is knowhere near as good as the player I seen in 2012. I have honestly never seen a player play aswell as Messi did that year, and I don’t think il ever see any player get to that level again. The difference between Messi now and back then, was the electric acceleration and pace he had back then. As is to be expected with any footballer, you’re always gonna be slower once you hit you’re 30s. It just shows how great he is though, that an ageing Messi can still be the best player in the world.

  • @sshszn

    @sshszn

    4 жыл бұрын

    That’s not true what so ever. Not when the name is Leo Messi. Again if you ask every Barcelona fan whom watch him week in week out as I do, it’s virtually divided between last season being 18/19 and some who say the 91 goal a year messi. There’s also a Small minority who will also mention 2015. Messi is still in his prime and will be for a few more years. He’s the same way since 2015.

  • @MANUTD4LIFE171

    @MANUTD4LIFE171

    4 жыл бұрын

    SSH SZN I watch Barcelona near enough every week, as they are on the tele every week. So no need to make assumptions that you watch every game and I don’t. When Messi can score 91 goals in a calendar year, or even get close to that again, then il start changing my opinion that he is still at his peak. But for now il stick with my opinion.

  • @sshszn

    @sshszn

    4 жыл бұрын

    MANUTD4LIFE171 Never made a assumption idk why you just got all in your feelings but if goals define peak for you so be it and like I said at the start I respect your opinion yet what messi did last year was the most a single person has done for any club. He’s been unfortunately carrying us since 2016 but last season was truly special. Just take a look at statistics or game play and maybe you’ll change your opinion. But either way I think we can agree on him being the greatest to ever play right?

  • @y-unespynchonesky9708
    @y-unespynchonesky97084 жыл бұрын

    Some say it's Messi, some say it's Xavi and iniesta and others say it's down to Pep''s tactics and they all forget that it's a team game. So long are the days when football matches were won because of reliance on pure individuals skills.. the modern game everyone has to put the effort, so yeah they were equally important.

  • @parodybamford705

    @parodybamford705

    4 жыл бұрын

    Y-unes Pynchonesky When this guy said he's miles and miles better than maradona, was he talking about messi or pele being better than maradona

  • @TheBryanky

    @TheBryanky

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@parodybamford705 He was talking about Messi being better than Maradona

  • @cascadel2199

    @cascadel2199

    4 жыл бұрын

    well said

  • @marcserra284

    @marcserra284

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think in every winner team or who work out so well, it's always the coach the key because it will depend of him the way how the team plays

  • @y-unespynchonesky9708

    @y-unespynchonesky9708

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@marcserra284 Yeah but the players execute it and first team coaches do their part too behind the scenes as well as sporting director, head of youth development, scouts, chairman...Everyone has to put the effort and be a part of a larger puzzle. Its a collaborative sport by definition. Its just Managers and players get the spotlight cause they're sexy in the eye of the public and are payed more.

  • @Payseur
    @Payseur4 жыл бұрын

    As a Barca fan, it was Xavi Iniesta, Busquets - the insane midfield trident, our front three Pedro Villa and Messi's fluidic exploits, Puyol's leadership and Pep's masterful tactics. Everybody deserves credit not just Messi or Pep.

  • @keyuantejohnson6266

    @keyuantejohnson6266

    4 жыл бұрын

    as a chelsea fan i have big respect for barcelona its history fans and legends

  • @maisondav1d

    @maisondav1d

    4 жыл бұрын

    + Alves

  • @postrock3374

    @postrock3374

    4 жыл бұрын

    as an oldham athletic fan i have big respect for barcelona its history fans and legends

  • @Payseur

    @Payseur

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@maisondav1d Yes, negligent to miss him.

  • @sreenathasv5771

    @sreenathasv5771

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's the entire team, could've just said it was a joint effort

  • @dark_knight885
    @dark_knight8854 жыл бұрын

    "I don't think we have ever seen or ever will see anything like Lionel Messi again. "

  • @dark_knight885

    @dark_knight885

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Shaw FarrowThat's pretty much my point, but okay.

  • @parodybamford705

    @parodybamford705

    4 жыл бұрын

    When this guy said he's miles and miles better than maradona, was he talking about messi or pele being better than maradona

  • @eireabu9486

    @eireabu9486

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@parodybamford705 Messi but both far better than maradona

  • @claudemakelele2856

    @claudemakelele2856

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@eireabu9486 lol....Messi the choker for Argentina.

  • @eireabu9486

    @eireabu9486

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@claudemakelele2856 he can't do everything himself???

  • @kevin-pu2lx
    @kevin-pu2lx4 жыл бұрын

    As a United fan, that was an amazing Manchester United team that won the prem and was 3 wins away from a treble. The Barcelona team were the best team of 2011, played beautiful football. One win away from a treble. Thrashed Morin real Madrid 5-0. Got to feel sorry for Manchester United, would of been bloodpool in Europe if it wasn't for the Barcelona side

  • @GKkanth11

    @GKkanth11

    4 жыл бұрын

    That man united team was insane. 3 UCL finals in 4 years Is no child's play. United absolutely dominated 2008. And it was only Barça who could do that to united or to Mourinho's real. That Barça was stunning

  • @kevin-pu2lx

    @kevin-pu2lx

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GKkanth11 if Barcelona dominated Manchester United in the champions league final, I don't even know what they did to real Madrid

  • @GKkanth11

    @GKkanth11

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kevin-pu2lx true

  • @barcelonabarca1218

    @barcelonabarca1218

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kevin-pu2lx true united fan, thanks for telling the truth, although I like the 1999 treble team of united more than the 2008 one.

  • @FF-jf8yg

    @FF-jf8yg

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not just the best team of 2011. They are the best team of all freaking time.

  • @y1521t21b5
    @y1521t21b54 жыл бұрын

    The team was loaded with talent, but the answer to the question as posed is G.O.A.T. _Messi,_ without whom the team would not have achieved as much.

  • @spz8342

    @spz8342

    4 жыл бұрын

    I disagree, they would've won the same. Spain winning 3 tournaments in a row with barca core kind of reflects this

  • @LeWacoKid

    @LeWacoKid

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@spz8342 Pep hasn't been to a champions League final without Messi.

  • @zirbto5749

    @zirbto5749

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@LeWacoKid barca hasn't been to a champions League final without xavi and iniesta

  • @kumarayush9950

    @kumarayush9950

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zirbto5749 in 2015 it was mostly MSN .. Xavi was a bench player(Rakitic was better than him) and Iniesta wasn't the Iniesta we saw till 2014

  • @halfvolley11

    @halfvolley11

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spz8342 spain was boring, barely scoring any goals in the world cup they won; Messi made Barca score. International Quality was poor that year.

  • @alkabalka2225
    @alkabalka2225 Жыл бұрын

    Grahams classical Barca commentary gives me goosebumps. So many beautiful memories

  • @isakpetterssonmusic
    @isakpetterssonmusic4 жыл бұрын

    Both were key lmao

  • @dark_knight885

    @dark_knight885

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ArgentineFootballfan1978 So do I

  • @tjseries3057

    @tjseries3057

    4 жыл бұрын

    Best comment

  • @parodybamford705

    @parodybamford705

    4 жыл бұрын

    When this guy said he's miles and miles better than maradona, was he talking about messi or pele being better than maradona

  • @gregory1347

    @gregory1347

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pep, Xavi and Iniesta were way more important

  • @sreenathasv5771

    @sreenathasv5771

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@parodybamford705 why are you so keen on that, they played in different eras

  • @thugalizer
    @thugalizer4 жыл бұрын

    Messi has always been the key, even back then in 2011 everything went through him. He was literally at the center of the attack. I mean just look at Messi’s UCL performances last season. If Barcelona didn’t bottle it at Anfield he could’ve easily won another UCL.

  • @zirbto5749

    @zirbto5749

    4 жыл бұрын

    So messi did perform in anfield and he did in rome the year before and against juve losing 3-0 he also was good, messi in all These years had a great record in the group stages but not in the knockout round he like all the other players in Barcelona didn't perform. Barca didn't bottle it their captain lead them to bottle it. He is at fault for this like everyone Else.

  • @thugalizer

    @thugalizer

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sarekulf look at the chances he created, he had one of the best match ratings at Anfield. He was the only one scoring and creating goals. That’s why he ended up as top scorer, most dribbles, most chances created and most player of the week awards.

  • @zirbto5749

    @zirbto5749

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@thugalizer also messi performs if it isn't against the best Teams. Nowadays he doesn't play as good against good teams anymore. Also it doesn't help if your captain Drops his head like the Team at half time when you are down

  • @thugalizer

    @thugalizer

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sarekulf loooool do you even watch Messi.. which ‘good’ teams doesn’t he play good against? 🤔 ..

  • @zirbto5749

    @zirbto5749

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@thugalizer Roma, juve Real in the last years

  • @Shinobi91
    @Shinobi914 жыл бұрын

    Xavi was the glue to Spanish/Barca dominance on club and international level from 2008 - 2012...it was Xavis pass that unlocked Germany defense in the 08 euro finals...it was Xavis pass that unlocked United defense for the first goals in the 09 and 11 UCL finals...

  • @amrarif5951

    @amrarif5951

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aa9179 yes but he assisted the second

  • @blacklightning7570
    @blacklightning75704 жыл бұрын

    It's a mixture of both but you can't leave out xavi, iniesta and puyol players that were fundamental to peps success.

  • @kalolfer2684
    @kalolfer26844 жыл бұрын

    Both/Everyone in that team. Pep is undeniably one of the greatest ever managers and Messi is maybe the greatest player ever. There were many different factor's for that team's unparalleled success. Attributing that success to one "Key" factor is nonsense.

  • @teletubbypo318

    @teletubbypo318

    3 жыл бұрын

    Messi is the greatest ever, not maybe. The stats don’t lie

  • @kalolfer2684

    @kalolfer2684

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@teletubbypo318 Not at all the stats have Ronaldo with more career goals than Messi. Not to mention Messi's awful record at international level. To never win anything at international level makes it almost impossible to be considered the GOAT. Ronaldo has two major Trophies with Portugal and more with every other team he's played on. Messi on the other hand could never win in any team besides Barcelona

  • @teletubbypo318

    @teletubbypo318

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kalolfer2684 Ronaldo only has 35 more career goals than messi and messi has played less than 140 games than ronaldo. Messi is also Argentina’s top goal scorer and carried them to the finals on the international stage plus he was the tournaments best player 2014 and top assist provider 2010 and 2018 so to say he isn’t good at international stage is stupid really. Also the two trophies ronaldo has one he didn’t even play in the final and the other was a glorified friendly with like 4 teams

  • @kalolfer2684

    @kalolfer2684

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@teletubbypo318 Ronaldo had other great International Tournaments as well but we only speak about the ones he won. That's why if Messi never won on the International Level it's hard to call him the GOAT. Ronaldo has also out scored Messi for two years now which is a testament to his longevity. Until Messi scores more than Ronaldo or wins with another team there's no way we can call him the GOAT

  • @teletubbypo318

    @teletubbypo318

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kalolfer2684 ronaldo only outscored messi last season? Look at goal:game, Ronaldo is the 2nd best player ever but messi scores as much as he can and he is the much better dribbler, more assists and all while playing mostly as a midfielder

  • @ziudra91
    @ziudra914 жыл бұрын

    What Ferguson achieved with Aberdeen was out of this world

  • @JohnAbraham-ft5go

    @JohnAbraham-ft5go

    4 жыл бұрын

    PEP could never............

  • @parodybamford705

    @parodybamford705

    4 жыл бұрын

    When this guy said he's miles and miles better than maradona, was he talking about messi or pele being better than maradona

  • @Junior-ov8me

    @Junior-ov8me

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@parodybamford705 messi

  • @mrkipling2201

    @mrkipling2201

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pinebro totally agree with you. A small club in Scotland beating the mighty Real Madrid in a European final. I don’t think that achievement gets the credit it should.

  • @Jamie-dq2wt

    @Jamie-dq2wt

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnAbraham-ft5go hey John I've missed you

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling22014 жыл бұрын

    I’m a United fan and even I could appreciate how good Barcelona were in 2011. 2009 was a bit closer and don’t forget we beat Barcelona in the 2008 semi final. They certainly got their own back!! We deserved to win in 2008. 2009, we just didn’t turn up but if we had it could’ve gone either way. 2011 we got a football lesson.

  • @isse93Z

    @isse93Z

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was so sad about what happened in Rome but years on watching that game I think we hade not as bad of game as it felt during that night. I love Ronaldo to bits but I really think he was way to turned on that night. There were at least 3 clear cut goal chances that would have been made by passing to Rooney overlap but he refused. In 2011 United were not as good and the Glazers ripping on its way. We did not replace Ronaldo and Tevez and you could argue the Barca team in Wembley was a slight bit better than the one in Rome.

  • @mrkipling2201

    @mrkipling2201

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ismail Shojai totally agree with you.

  • @xTheCrispyNinjax

    @xTheCrispyNinjax

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@isse93Z barca team in wembley was leagues better than the one in rome. The one in rome had a completely makeshift backline , an unexperienced busquets in his debut season and iniesta and henry were injured going into the game.

  • @philipeafroboy1

    @philipeafroboy1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@isse93Z Ronaldo dipped slightly in that season overall, he still scored some outrageous goals but wasn't quite as good. The stats in the 2009 final were very even, United even had 1 more shot on goal. We lacked a clinical side and sorely missed Fletcher who would have helped disrupt their midfield

  • @malcolmxalfawzaani4989

    @malcolmxalfawzaani4989

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@philipeafroboy1 WOULF HAVE HELPED DISRUPT THEIR MIDFIELD. You would want to do that to a team that is better than u.

  • @luisdanielvega99
    @luisdanielvega992 жыл бұрын

    for me barcelona from 2009-2013 was the best football team ive ever seen and messi from 2009 to 2015 ive never seen that quality of play from a foottball player he was on a whole another level

  • @mesulimhlongo8909
    @mesulimhlongo89094 жыл бұрын

    Pep was the key. he designed everything. he maximized what he had at his disposal. he introduced new methods. Awareness, anticipation and quick thinking; all these components were 'aroused'. it was like an orchestra. he redefined teamwork.

  • @lukejones5148
    @lukejones51484 жыл бұрын

    Greatest player to ever play the game. Should never be an or at the end of his name

  • @gregory1347

    @gregory1347

    4 жыл бұрын

    What does Cristiano Ronaldo the greatest player to ever play the game have to do with this video? Please stay on topic

  • @lukejones5148

    @lukejones5148

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesmorgan1223 70 goals 138 games. If there not happy they never will be

  • @jamesmorgan1223

    @jamesmorgan1223

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lukejones5148 lost 3 copa America finals in a row 😂

  • @barcelonabarca1218

    @barcelonabarca1218

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gregory1347 penaldo you mean, he isn't even close

  • @gregory1347

    @gregory1347

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@barcelonabarca1218 what does Roberto Soldado the Penaldo have to do with this? I know he's also a penalty queen like Penassi but I don't see what it has to do with this?

  • @anshulsharma8944
    @anshulsharma89444 жыл бұрын

    The Barca of 2009 was a newly discovered supersonic jet engine that had some flaws but the world has never seen anything like it before.. But the Barca of 2011 was the most efficient well oiled engine with some major upgrades. I guess the Barca of 2011 was the greatest club team of all time.

  • @annamccombie6396
    @annamccombie63964 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate you doing this and I admire your videos. You inspire me to be a footballer.

  • @Slim-MMA
    @Slim-MMA4 жыл бұрын

    Barcelona won nothing in 2007 and 2008 before Guardiola came along. They had a great foundation of players but Guardiola brought them to that level, he flicked the switch to turn them into the greatest team of all time.

  • @eireabu9486

    @eireabu9486

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not the greatest but up there

  • @surferboy18

    @surferboy18

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agree with Robert moore

  • @Slim-MMA
    @Slim-MMA4 жыл бұрын

    There was no single “key”, they all fit together perfectly.

  • @spankmesanta821

    @spankmesanta821

    4 жыл бұрын

    Xavi was the core. You can replace any other player or manager (as long as it’s not a drastic change) and the system will still function. Puyol, Pique, Busquets, Iniesta, even Messi (the Spanish team were very successful in this era). Even managers like Rijkaard, Guardiola and Enrique (although their systems differed they still has success). But the one irreplaceable component is Xavi. Xavi IS tiki-taka. There is no coincidence that the rise and the fall of tiki-taka correlated to the heights and decline of Xavi (which happened due to age).

  • @patchh15

    @patchh15

    4 жыл бұрын

    SpankMe Santa that’s the poetic way of looking at it but many could have replaced Xavi - if you had free pick. Pirlo, Xabi Alonso, Scholes etc. Messi was irreplacable, not just for his goals but his link up play, his off the ball runs, his vision which had improved tenfold by 2010, let alone his assists and goals. Really, to say Xavi was more key than Messi is an insult. He is quite simply the greatest footballer to have ever lived.

  • @Slim-MMA

    @Slim-MMA

    4 жыл бұрын

    SpankMe Santa Nobody could’ve scared teams like Messi did.

  • @claudemakelele2856

    @claudemakelele2856

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Slim-MMA Spanish team succeeded without him. So yeah, he was replaceable

  • @Slim-MMA

    @Slim-MMA

    4 жыл бұрын

    Claude Makelele The Spanish team was a mix of Barcelona and Real Madrid. They were also up against countries, not clubs. I see you everywhere, you have the brain of a sheep

  • @sauravsastry
    @sauravsastry4 жыл бұрын

    2011 barca team just entertained the world this team had la masia players and also had world cup winners and euro winners nobody in the World could stop them they were just mesmerizing the opponents with their beautiful passsing whenever they lose the ball you could see them pressing high and regaining in few seconds currently no teams could do like that players like valdes,puyol,xavi, Iniesta, Busquets and messi will always be once in a lifetime players

  • @Kobs.A
    @Kobs.A4 жыл бұрын

    The whole squad actually, they were perfect

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre43354 жыл бұрын

    2008 - 2011 was Barcelona Era

  • @MirkoS1995

    @MirkoS1995

    4 жыл бұрын

    2008-16.

  • @THO-BRO2000
    @THO-BRO20004 жыл бұрын

    What about their incredible midfield and axis? Almost everyone in that team were in the prime of their careers, winning WC's and personal titles like it's nothing.

  • @yusufluhar5881
    @yusufluhar58814 жыл бұрын

    People r sleeping over Xavi and Iniesta. If it wasnt for them two, Barca wouldnt have achieved what they achieved. Messi is the GOAT and without him Barca wouldnt be the Barca we saw during those great years but Xavi and Iniesta were equally as important to Barca.

  • @eneat2521

    @eneat2521

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree so much, when people say name a world class midfielder they most likely wouldn’t say xavi or iniesta but for me they were the best

  • @logiic8835

    @logiic8835

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@eneat2521 lol who u askin

  • @blacklightning7570

    @blacklightning7570

    4 жыл бұрын

    I made comment stating the exact same thing while also adding puyol to the mix

  • @eneat2521

    @eneat2521

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dzaki everyone lol, they always say zidane, maradona or cruyff etc.

  • @eneat2521

    @eneat2521

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dzaki it’s only cuz iniesta and xavi aren’t on Fifa that they think that

  • @andrewbunch6599
    @andrewbunch6599 Жыл бұрын

    I remember that final in 2011 so well never seen sir Alex shake so much

  • @MrMooemoney
    @MrMooemoney4 жыл бұрын

    Redknapp - "that is some claim"lol did he see the football they played

  • @MyMili1234

    @MyMili1234

    4 жыл бұрын

    As time passed, people realise how much dumb he is.

  • @54356776

    @54356776

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MyMili1234 *how dumb he is. Not - how much dumb he is.

  • @positional_play

    @positional_play

    2 жыл бұрын

    Redknapp ? It was Dave Jones, the presenter.

  • @raphaeldelaghetto4
    @raphaeldelaghetto44 жыл бұрын

    This discussion is like trying to put an “i” in “team”

  • @mwebazegilbert2008
    @mwebazegilbert20084 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant description 👌

  • @kts5920
    @kts59204 жыл бұрын

    Messi obviously, what's crazy is Messi has played with the likes of Thierry Henry, zlatan ibrahimović, Ronaldinho, Suarez, Neymar, Xavi, Iniesta, griezmann coutinho, he was a beast for us at Liverpool, but they all look average next to Messi, no matter how good they are, they all come second to Messi, he really is the best player in the world, and the greatest player ever to live.

  • @8sidewayz602

    @8sidewayz602

    4 жыл бұрын

    Henry is the real football god he floated with the ball at his feet it was pure art, Henry's the best for me of all time easy.

  • @kts5920

    @kts5920

    4 жыл бұрын

    @LucasTorreiraisthegoat no he didn't lol, even Henry him self said he was in awe of Messi, look, anyone that know and loves football, knows that Messi is the greatest.

  • @sosolawson6587

    @sosolawson6587

    4 жыл бұрын

    KTS the only ones who looked average were griezmann and coutinho, the rest showed their world class talent

  • @kts5920

    @kts5920

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sosolawson6587 Yes they was, but compared to Messi, they looked average, what I mean is, when Messi played with the lot I mentioned, Messi was always the best player on the pitch.

  • @8sidewayz602

    @8sidewayz602

    4 жыл бұрын

    @4th Genna 😂😂😂 sorry bro, I have to respectfully respectfully disagree, the best player of all time is Jessie Jones a mixture of Phil Jones and Jessie lingard

  • @kaifiroshid9846
    @kaifiroshid98464 жыл бұрын

    they should have 4/4 champions league those years

  • @MirkoS1995

    @MirkoS1995

    4 жыл бұрын

    True. From 2009 till 2012 they deserved every champions league.

  • @barcelonabarca1218

    @barcelonabarca1218

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, 2 trebles as well. 2011 should have been a treble

  • @antoancho
    @antoancho4 жыл бұрын

    I love Messi and Pep, but there is no right answer to this question, and if it was one, I would say Xavi and Iniesta because remember, they are the ones who took two Euros and a World Cup in between which is unprecendented in the same 2008-2012 period. And of course this Spanish team had some Real Madrid players, David Silva, Torres, Fabregas and so on, the core that made it click was exactly the same. But together it was perfection.

  • @samgeee2968
    @samgeee29684 жыл бұрын

    Xavi and iniesta were. Messi was surrounded by Spain’s 2010 World Cup winning team.

  • @abcdefg3214

    @abcdefg3214

    4 жыл бұрын

    Great era greatest club team ever.. But if you dont see that messi was and has always been the top star in every managers team then you are simply a fool.. Pep, xavi and iniesta have said messi is the greatest in history.. But clowns like you try there hardest not to accept it and will do any thing to put him down

  • @claudemakelele2856

    @claudemakelele2856

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@abcdefg3214 the same Messi who can't get near a UCL trophy since Iniesta and Xavi left.

  • @mnb9162

    @mnb9162

    4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting though that Xavi wasnt even first choice in his mid twenties for the UCL final in 2006. Iniesta was also in his twenties and on the bench for that match...

  • @abcdefg3214

    @abcdefg3214

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@claudemakelele2856 so your another tit, that blames messi for Barcelona falling apart against roma or Liverpool... I D dnt know it was a 1 vs 11 sport... Messi isnt a defender a midfielder a striker a manager all rolled into 1... That ridiculous childish comment you made there makes people who actually understand the sport laugh at you. Very primitive immature way of thinking about the sport

  • @claudemakelele2856

    @claudemakelele2856

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@abcdefg3214 but Messi was the key and most important player of the Pep Barcelona...right? I thought it was a team sport as you said. According to your comment this whole video is wrong..right?

  • @carlomikhailreid4365
    @carlomikhailreid43653 жыл бұрын

    Still have not seen a team like this since then.

  • @mattevans5201
    @mattevans52012 жыл бұрын

    Bang on Graham!

  • @arsen-jb1gs
    @arsen-jb1gs4 жыл бұрын

    the diamond of busquest_ xavi, iniesta_ messi with villa and pedro out wide. you wonder howgood they are

  • @maxawudhomaa3918
    @maxawudhomaa3918 Жыл бұрын

    This is the reason why I only watch Barcelona and really proud to be in fun of Barcelona one love all the way from somalia 🇸🇴❤️🇸🇴❤️🇸🇴❤️🇸🇴

  • @Bewareofthewolves
    @Bewareofthewolves4 жыл бұрын

    More Hunter please!

  • @MrKaravaj
    @MrKaravaj4 жыл бұрын

    For me that was the best football gameplay of all time, best team of all time

  • @strawhatsgear5th

    @strawhatsgear5th

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree they simply dominated every team. I would do anything to watch them live again

  • @krick_mufc9291
    @krick_mufc92914 жыл бұрын

    I said it then and I stand by it now, that is the best football side ever to play. Simple

  • @MrHRmario
    @MrHRmario4 жыл бұрын

    I like this guy

  • @bennybrooke
    @bennybrooke4 жыл бұрын

    What is the film they're referring to? Can anyone post a link?

  • @arkadeepbanerjee2347
    @arkadeepbanerjee23474 жыл бұрын

    It's really shameful how people never mention xavi and iniesta in this conversation. Those two won the world cup with their game. Neither messi nor pep have world cup medals in their cabinet and that says something.

  • @mnb9162

    @mnb9162

    4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting though that Xavi wasnt even first choice in his mid twenties for the UCL final in 2006. Iniesta was also in his twenties and on the bench for that match...

  • @TopHDToonZ

    @TopHDToonZ

    4 жыл бұрын

    Again with the WC stupidity? That Spain team had the core of 6 Barcelona players. Which was using the same tactics introduced by Pep. Yes, Xavi and Iniesta do need more limelight. but do not underestimate Messi and pep. Without them, that team wouldvé not achieved what they achieved. And as for Spain, even without Messi the rest of the teams weren't strong enough to beat them. UCL is the toughest comp in the world Not the WC.

  • @mnb9162

    @mnb9162

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TopHDToonZ It would be interesting to see what Barcelona would have done without Messi during the Pep reign. But equally what they would have done without Xavi&Iniesta. Its a close one. Messi clearly made things easier but who knows..without Xavi and Iniesta feeding the ball maybe it would be another case of how it is with Argentina for Messi. Its all hypothetical. All great players and a great manager.

  • @SFNDMK

    @SFNDMK

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mnb9162 That's probably because Xavi had come back from an injury so was on the bench, and Deco started at the time. trust me their importance predates Pep

  • @mnb9162

    @mnb9162

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SFNDMK Im a big fan of Xavi, just interesting how it was actually under Pep that Xavi and Iniesta really went to another level.

  • @leearchibald7064
    @leearchibald70644 жыл бұрын

    They were without a doubt the best team in the world and I believe the greatest of all time. Pep at Barcelona was something special

  • @wrathoflichking9603
    @wrathoflichking96034 жыл бұрын

    I would say pep.. He is the one who rearranged the playing style. He is actually the one who unleash xavi and Iniesta. Interms of players, xavi and iniesta are the two most important players and pep is the one responsibility for vitializing them.

  • @keyuantejohnson6266

    @keyuantejohnson6266

    4 жыл бұрын

    pep only of the greatest managers of all time he revolutionized the game he turn barcelona into one of the greatest club sides of all time i still don't know why people disrespect him and call him a fraud

  • @SPECTRE_Madman

    @SPECTRE_Madman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Keyuante Johnson Yeah but he has managed to Barcelona Munich and city Where’s stoke

  • @NateDogg8870
    @NateDogg88704 жыл бұрын

    In terms of results that Pep team was unbelievable. In terms of entertainment the Frank Rijkaard all day. I was more mesmerised by Rijkaard’s team. Pep just wanted to monopolise possession. A decent team that knows how to defend and counter-attack with fast players who are clinical in front of goal could beat that team. Tbh if you take out Messi it’s a typical Spanish team with a solid midfield.

  • @SFNDMK

    @SFNDMK

    4 жыл бұрын

    its absoutley criminal how people sleep on what Rijkaard did at Barcelona. A lot of people sleep on the fact that he played a key part in Ineista and Messi before Pep came in

  • @princeofsomalia1231
    @princeofsomalia12314 жыл бұрын

    Pep and Messi both play massive roles and will be the ones remembered, but Johan Cruyff is the godfather of all success Barcelona have had in recent times.

  • @Devypocalypse
    @Devypocalypse4 жыл бұрын

    Xavi and Iniesta were the key. There's a reason why both Barcelona and the Spanish national team were steam rolling everyone and it was that midfield engine.

  • @MrPoutPout64
    @MrPoutPout644 жыл бұрын

    Haven’t watched the video but I can tell you it was both.

  • @Hunter-cm3tt
    @Hunter-cm3tt4 жыл бұрын

    Would a team with Iniesta, Xavi and Messi have won titles regardless of the coach? YES! Even my dog would've managed that Barca and have won things and I don't even have a dog lol. The real question is: would someone else have made them play the way they did and bring up the utmost of those players potential? NO! Put Mourinho, Ancelotti, Benitez or any other top manager at the time and they would make that team a winning machine (each in their own style), but only Pep could make the Catalunia team play total football. He had the guts to bench YYT for a young Busquets and to sell Etoo (didn't agree at the time), it's true that buying Ibra was a mistake but he corrected that by signing Villa (the best Spanish striker I've seen play). The guy beat Sir Alex Ferguson TWICE! People may critize him for his choice of clubes to manage but you can't deny his ability as a coach. Tiki-taka only worked because of the players chacteristics and skill but it also only worked because Pep USED the system. Last, I'd like to point out once again how important it was to make Busquets a starter in tha team, people tend to leave him out when mentioning Barca's success, wish he could get more recognition.

  • @Hunter-cm3tt

    @Hunter-cm3tt

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ I think you are the one who needs to settle down if you got triggered by the lenght of a comment. Wish you get better from whatever happened to you.

  • @sreenathasv5771

    @sreenathasv5771

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ this is the most sane explaination out here

  • @arrmahn3442
    @arrmahn34426 ай бұрын

    When I started watching football, i thought CWC was the real deal with the thought of among the world. Although instanbul was an emotional night, It was a heartbreak losing cwc in 2006 coz we've never won it before too. Crouchy to this day had not get over Rafa for not starting him in the final At this day, i dont care abt cwc anymore , dont even wanna bother going. Still remember last 2 years, EPL refused to arrange a date for us unlike city now, we had to field 2 teams on the same day to play both villa and flamengo

  • @yadhukrishnan6204
    @yadhukrishnan62043 жыл бұрын

    5 :00 said the right thing....

  • @shaneobrien9796
    @shaneobrien97964 жыл бұрын

    I think Xavi & Iniesta were just as important as Messi or Pep

  • @thiefoftomorrow
    @thiefoftomorrow4 жыл бұрын

    who's house is jamie broadcasting this from??

  • @LouisHolliman
    @LouisHolliman4 жыл бұрын

    It was the complete package, not just messi. I really do appreciate everything messi has done for the sport, but as Great as he is, that Barca team was perfectly made for him. I’d love to see Messi come out his comfort zone and play in the prem, that’s the only thing missing for me! But just my opinion of course

  • @kindface

    @kindface

    4 жыл бұрын

    LOL, that tired old line “I’d Ioved to see Messi...play in the prem...”.

  • @LouisHolliman

    @LouisHolliman

    4 жыл бұрын

    kindface people say it, cos it’s a well thought and valid opinion..

  • @positional_play

    @positional_play

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LouisHolliman Only if you would like to see him there for the sake of it, but not if you think that "he needs to prove himself"

  • @GauravYadav-bf7qj

    @GauravYadav-bf7qj

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LouisHolliman prem? He was destroying prem teams in 2019 UCL single handedly without Iniesta or Xavi and he has done this throughout his career. The best player ever against real Madrid doesn't even need to play prem teams

  • @jamaljamal5936
    @jamaljamal5936 Жыл бұрын

    Messi took barcelona to the next level. Once in a life time players

  • @iKwondo
    @iKwondo4 жыл бұрын

    It's all about Messi. Pep has been trying for 9 years to win the CL without Messi and he can't do it. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta were unbelievable.

  • @claudemakelele2856

    @claudemakelele2856

    4 жыл бұрын

    And Messi has struggled to even get close to a UCL trophy since Iniesta and Xavi left

  • @benroosendaal9784

    @benroosendaal9784

    4 жыл бұрын

    so where is messi’s ucl trophy now ?

  • @iKwondo

    @iKwondo

    4 жыл бұрын

    2015?

  • @krishnasadasivan4011
    @krishnasadasivan40114 жыл бұрын

    WHERE IS THIS FILM?!!

  • @sairaenchantrez
    @sairaenchantrez3 жыл бұрын

    There is never going to another einstein, hawking's, Mozart, Shakespeare, and Messi.

  • @jaiswan2957
    @jaiswan29574 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to be that person Sky but ‘incite’ in your description should be ‘insight’. Great video though!

  • @BabsW

    @BabsW

    4 жыл бұрын

    They've now changed it boss.

  • @jaiswan2957

    @jaiswan2957

    4 жыл бұрын

    BabsW I can sleep easy now, thank you :-)

  • @Lot12345
    @Lot123454 жыл бұрын

    Both were fundamental 💓 Barca 💓 Leo💓 Guardiola 💓

  • @sameerhossain5428
    @sameerhossain54284 жыл бұрын

    Great analysis.. messi 🐐🐐

  • @kashrahman1826
    @kashrahman18264 жыл бұрын

    Pep was the key messi was the door ‼️🔐🏃🏻😌

  • @eireabu9486

    @eireabu9486

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sure whatever u think

  • @kashrahman1826

    @kashrahman1826

    4 жыл бұрын

    Éire Abú you love messi don't you bless 😉👏🏽‼️

  • @eireabu9486

    @eireabu9486

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kashrahman1826 nope because neither were the cause

  • @kashrahman1826

    @kashrahman1826

    4 жыл бұрын

    Éire Abú OK budd

  • @kashrahman1826

    @kashrahman1826

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've got 5 likes

  • @frankpfau9054
    @frankpfau9054 Жыл бұрын

    the main reasons for barcas success… the group (base layed by rijkaard) with iniesta, xavi, busquets, villa, puyol (and many others) and the once i a lifetime talent of messi was unique… and guardiola is a football-nerd… back then the other coaches had no idea how to handle his tactics…

  • @greenplums5104
    @greenplums51044 жыл бұрын

    Both

  • @mel-bp1kp
    @mel-bp1kp4 жыл бұрын

    Give this guy the Job

  • @SamirTimilsina

    @SamirTimilsina

    3 жыл бұрын

    He already has a job.

  • @parodybamford705
    @parodybamford7054 жыл бұрын

    When he said he is miles miles better than maradona, was he talking about pele being better than maradona or messi being better than maradona

  • @jojodawide3097
    @jojodawide30974 жыл бұрын

    Is both the reason why Barcelona was so great is cuz they have the best manager who knows Barcelona chemistry well

  • @vaibhavsridharan9734

    @vaibhavsridharan9734

    2 жыл бұрын

    yess Pep and Cruyff were 100% barca

  • @nesoaniagboso7287
    @nesoaniagboso72874 жыл бұрын

    We more analysts like hunter

  • @ONLY1RICKYHATTAN
    @ONLY1RICKYHATTAN4 жыл бұрын

    No one came close to that team and no one comes close to Lionel

  • @ErrmNoo
    @ErrmNoo4 жыл бұрын

    Definitely the best club team ever.

  • @YusafN9
    @YusafN94 жыл бұрын

    I don't know

  • @Hypocrisy.Allergic
    @Hypocrisy.Allergic Жыл бұрын

    The key was the midfield that won World Cup :D

  • @splinter360
    @splinter3604 жыл бұрын

    In the 11/12 season he bagged 73 goals. That.... is just ridiculous. Like stupid. He is the greatest in my eyes.

  • @keyuantejohnson6266

    @keyuantejohnson6266

    4 жыл бұрын

    was nowhere to been seen in 2012 champions league semifinals against chelsea

  • @splinter360

    @splinter360

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@keyuantejohnson6266 So that makes a 73 goal season poor or what? I'm not sure what you're getting at.

  • @tjseries3057

    @tjseries3057

    4 жыл бұрын

    And what good did that do for Barcelona?? Yeah only the cdr

  • @RaymunJai
    @RaymunJai4 жыл бұрын

    Answer is easy. The players made it easier for Pep. Look at how Pep transformed City without Messi, xavi, inesta etc etc and look at Barcelona now

  • @siddarth9281
    @siddarth92813 жыл бұрын

    Barca 2008-09 was also great...6 trophies in one year...after selling their main man Ronaldinho...

  • @christianround2774
    @christianround27744 жыл бұрын

    The key, I’ve always believed, was Busquets.

  • @aa9179

    @aa9179

    4 жыл бұрын

    And alves the two most underrated players

  • @Slim-MMA

    @Slim-MMA

    4 жыл бұрын

    There was no one key, it was everyone.

  • @hazardboss6078

    @hazardboss6078

    4 жыл бұрын

    Basically everyone

  • @JubalBed
    @JubalBed2 жыл бұрын

    Messi was a diamond in the rough and Pep was the jeweler that gave him the right treatment which made him shine brightly.

  • @truebro77
    @truebro774 жыл бұрын

    Lionel Messi has been and always will be the greatest player of all time. If you think otherwise, you really do not know football.

  • @eneat2521

    @eneat2521

    4 жыл бұрын

    Beatlejuice

  • @fuad_a7

    @fuad_a7

    4 жыл бұрын

    What, so it's wrong to have a different opinion?

  • @NateDogg8870

    @NateDogg8870

    4 жыл бұрын

    Better than Brazil Ronaldo? More talented than Ronaldinho? More influential than Zidane for club and country? Messi is without doubt the GOAT statistically but I don’t think he’s more talented than the three players I just mentioned. To put into context Gerd Muller had a better goal contribution than Pele and Cruyff but no one mentions him as an all time great.

  • @fuad_a7

    @fuad_a7

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@NateDogg8870 I agree exactly, but Zidane was always there for his country, but if you watched him play throughout his club career he was inconsistent...

  • @truebro77

    @truebro77

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@NateDogg8870 WHAT????????? you need to lay off the drugs mate. Did you just say he did't have the talent of those guys?? WHAT WHAT WHAT hahahahaha

  • @isaacdelvalle2027
    @isaacdelvalle20274 жыл бұрын

    Jamie Redknapp looks like Isco.

  • @mnb9162
    @mnb91624 жыл бұрын

    Pep was key for Iniesta. He wasn't really played a lot in centre midfield before Pep came. Just before Pep was coach Guilem actually described Iniesta as the perfect Sub. The perfect number 12. He wasn't first choice. Neither was Xavi until he was 25/26 years old. They flourished with Pep as coach. Same with Messi. He wasnt played centrally that much if at all until Pep came.

  • @seanrobinson6025
    @seanrobinson60254 жыл бұрын

    Was waiting on Rednapp saying; "yeah, but why didn't they ever give a British manager a go??" "listen, we all know they were a great team but could they have done it at Stoke? I don't think so and Pep has proven that this year" "What about Spurs??? When my dad was in charge they played some of the best football around"

  • @Bossanovawitcha
    @Bossanovawitcha7 ай бұрын

    8 Ballon’s says Messi Pep needed a billion dollars and a lot of years to win a CL without him

  • @fqq4137
    @fqq41374 жыл бұрын

    He just made a giant statement that Giggs was the greatest prem player like it was nothing

  • @marvinofori4727

    @marvinofori4727

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tbf 13 prems isn't too shabby

  • @user-kn4gx5ih7m

    @user-kn4gx5ih7m

    4 жыл бұрын

    8 year affair as well. Hard to do

  • @hs4lhp828

    @hs4lhp828

    4 жыл бұрын

    Many consider Giggs to be the greatest PL player.. Everyone has an opinion but that one is about as far from controversial as it gets. ​@Niranjan Rajesh Yeah that doesn't really work mate, considering Giggs has more PL titles than Brown has any titles...

  • @rogerdavies2796

    @rogerdavies2796

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Bizarre

  • @redlavish7027
    @redlavish70274 жыл бұрын

    Players like suarez coutinho Griezmam Neymar are so far behind Messi its ridiculous. He’s so many levels above everyone else. Last year against Liverpool, it was a one man team. Suarez and coutinho were a shambles in those matches. Messi puts it on a plate for these guys and they fluff it. LIONEL MESSI is a one man team especially now. The greatest the world has ever seen and ever will see probably.

  • @beerus966
    @beerus9664 жыл бұрын

    Neither. Iniesta and Xavi were. The best partnership in football history the chemistry was unparalleled. That is why 08-11 Barca was the best team ever.

  • @JAILEDforMEMES

    @JAILEDforMEMES

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes but you need a conductor to put everything together again and that was Pep. Because Xavi and Iniesta were there before ans they underachieved season before… Pep arrived and pulled all the right strings getting rid of Ronaldinho, promoting Messi to be a main star and injecting Cryuff’s vision back at Camp Nou. Yes without Xavi & Iniesta that would be not possible… but every puzzle just matched perfectly since Pep arrived.

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