JJ should be careful with his comments. Because 30-50 years from now kids will say Lebron, Curry, Giannis & KD played against streamers, podcasters & Tiktokers!

@zenmar84

Жыл бұрын

Ive seen people criticised the players of the 80's already and some are questioning MJ's SG conpetition in the 90's, so that is not farfetched.

@One.Zero.One101

Жыл бұрын

For 12-year old kids, anything that happened 10 years before they were born is ancient history. No doubt kids in 2050 will find a way to diminish Lebron and KD's legacy even if the stats are staring them in the face. They will downplay the teams they played against, and the players they played against like Kawhii, CP3, Giannis, Harden.

Best response I heard about this issue is when someone posted on Twitter, ""in this version of the nba JJ, you are the plumber"" .

@sup9542

Жыл бұрын

That’s where it comes from. His ego tells him he’d have been the GOAT back in the day but he wasn’t lucky enough to play back then. No, he’s the plumber. And he’d have been the plumber back then. Born in that era he’d be playing the same old style as everyone else, as a role player.

@One.Zero.One101

Жыл бұрын

JJ is a pretentious pseudo-intellectual from Duke that thinks his opinions are worth more than the hardworking blue-collar plebs.

He's a HOF and literally a basketball living legend so he is entitled to say ANYTHING *he wants to say about basketball.*

Jerry West " The Logo" was spot on!! JJ was disrespectful! Jerry would give JJ 40!!

@lightingbolt8148

2 ай бұрын

At least

Bob Cousy is a legend. He invented showtime. He was Magic Johnson before before Magic Johnson. Don't forget, the Celtics dominated via fast break basketball. These guys were fast. Played all 82 games. Went to the finals for a decade straight. And even with all those miles on their bodies, they still ran young players out of the building. JJ speaks with his mouth. Bob spoke with his game and his championships.

@IknowMoreThanYou

Жыл бұрын

In black and white film you see all the behind the back between the legs passes and slick dribbles. His role was to distribute not score. Anyone talking about his shooting percentage is a casual and JJ proved why playing in the league doesn't mean you know the game

@belak1551

Жыл бұрын

Played all 82 in a much more physical league. Players these days are asking for the season to be shorter. JJ is delusional with comments like that. They were plumbers and shit because they had to have side jobs because the nba wasn’t as rich as it is now. It has nothing to do with talent. The best dunkers in this day and age aren’t even in the nba they work jobs like Walmart and golds gym and places like that. So what’s that mean? Current players have zero intelligence when it comes to the game.

@kanajingly8957

Жыл бұрын

I actually watched game 7 recently of the 1968 finals, and there is no way or one minute I watched the game and thought these are just a bunch of bums playing the game. Jerry West's shot was as smooth as any of the best players I've seen, and the fact that he couldn't get past those celtics all those years, just goes to show how legitimate the competition was then in order for the league to be as competitive as it is today. I would in fact argue that the competitive nature of those players surpassed many of today's players, given the fact that they played all those games with little rest, no charter flights while having to work in the off-season. Put Jerry West in today's NBA with all the player development and training of today and he will still be an all time great, his competitive will and drive alone, not to mention his athleticism would demonstrate to the world that he was and is still truly great.

@belak1551

Жыл бұрын

@@kanajingly8957 I applaud you for taking the time to watch an old game like that. Shows how much you love the game. I often watch old games myself. Game was just more fun to watch back then. Honestly a lot of current NBA players can learn a lot from you. I think I’m todays game the players are more in love with the lifestyle than they are the actual game of basketball.

@AB-hc8cg

Жыл бұрын

Give me JJ any freaking day. We gotta stop acting like these “legends” were actually good

If not for guys like Bob Cousy, JJ Redick would be shlepping Magnolia home theater systems at Best Buy.

@kanajingly8957

Жыл бұрын

JJ Redick should thank Jerry West for the fact that people even know who JJ Redick is. If he played in the 60s, he would have been one of those unknown plumbers lost to history.

@jaydlightning2015

Жыл бұрын

He went to Duke, he would still be doing something other than that lol.

@One.Zero.One101

Жыл бұрын

@@jaydlightning2015 Like sitting at home like a bum relying on daddy's trust fund?

I think Jerry West was right. I love JJ but he got caught up in the meme of making fun of players from an older time. The bottom line is that guys like Bob Cousy dominated their respective eras, and that makes them historically great players.

@thetrib1

Жыл бұрын

and yet...jj saying bob played against fireman(meaning NBA players had 2nd jobs) was correct. the tone was crazy but the words were correct. JJ's not in the wrong. Also neither is Jerry. He's just defending his era(well..himself really) like JJ was.

@rileyhaley3848

Жыл бұрын

@@thetrib1 J.J didn't have a 2nd job and yet still averaged less than cousy?

@thetrib1

Жыл бұрын

@@rileyhaley3848 this is an irrelevant question. did you know wilt chamberlain averaged more than everyone but michael in league history? and him and michael are basically neck n neck...did you know that? what does that matter? first of all... JJs not playing against fireman and plumbers. He's playing against better players. Take prime JJ and throw him back to 1950s and he'd dominate. Not because he's inherently more gifted than a bob cousy, but because of evolution and the growth of the game He's basically been prepared at a much higher level than almost all of the players in the 50s were. Not a knock on them that's just reality. JJ in his prime was a 6'4 200 pound sg with a 33 in vert and a great mid range(yes mid range) and 3 pt shooter. He had good touch around the rim. not a good ball handler in the current NBA, but for the 50s JJ would be elite. look at the space many players got on their jumpers. JJ would eat that up. Is it fair? no...because they don't have the benefit of players paving the way for them for decades that JJ does. They don't have the technology that JJ does. They don't have the freedom to focus almost solely on basketball like they do now, and a slew of other things. But that's the point.

@MrRufusRToyota

Жыл бұрын

@@thetrib1 And JJ is a creature of modern rule changes. He couldn’t have made the league before the three-point line.

@god_ingmar5103

Жыл бұрын

@@rileyhaley3848 the point he was trying to make is that everyone is more skilled now because everyone has the money dedicate their life to the craft of basketball. Therefore it’s harder to be good when the competition is all good.

The only thing you can accurately judge is how well somebody did during their era against the competition they faced. In this regard, Bob Cousy was A LOT more successful than Chris Paul and JJ Redick combined. If Chris Paul played back then, he would've had a 2nd job as well, and not been able to palm the ball, as it was called back then. No 3-pointer for JJ either. To a large extent, we are all products of our time.

@rexvisitor44

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. You could say the same of Babe Ruth and every other past athlete. You can only compare them to their competition at the time. Humans have evolved. The only sports where athletes are not better than decades ago are boxing and horse racing.

@Aih1616

Жыл бұрын

Great comment

@tyronevaldez-kruger5313

Жыл бұрын

Agreed 100%. Being from Europe I wished the soccer GOAT debates had an end. Messi would've kicked Maradona's behind and Maradona would've done it to Pelé even though Pelé wore boots like 5kg each.... People don't understand that every era in any sports is different. Wilt, Bill, Kareem, Bird, Magic Jordan, Kobe, Steph, LeBron.. they are all BB royalty

@jameschunn2790

Жыл бұрын

If Chris Paul played back then he would have a second job? Sheesh. You hear some of the dumbest things online.

@SidLaw500

Жыл бұрын

@@jameschunn2790 Most of the players had second jobs back then cause they weren't making enough from playing. Didn't you know that?

Jerry West taking lives out here.

When the Logo stated JJ's stat line, it was more in reference to how did he impact the game. JJ has a right to have an opinion, but when you come against a legend who put the point in point guard, and although he had a very good career, it pales in comparison to the imprint of Cousy, you've got to slow your role.

A Plumber was dunking from the FT line in Chuck Taylors with ease back then. Name one center in the NBA today that can do that

JJ said it cos he couldn't beat Mad Dog in a debate on First Take so he tossed out a throwaway comment that i think he's quietly regretting now lol

@H0VA

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he does that alot. Just like he tried to say Mad Dog was having "racial undertones" in another argument with no proof at all it just "felt like it" He is a bum.

@BearArmyCadet27951

Жыл бұрын

JJ Redick is just as trash as Skip Bayless, and Skip is a raging dumpster fire in the middle of Schitt's Creek.

@y2shuproblem

Жыл бұрын

​@@H0VA Mad Dog told Draymond to "Shut up and dribble." If you know where that quote originated from, you can see why JJ said what he said.

Cousy would bust JJ’s ass... 😂🤷🏼‍♂️

Those guys were stars of their time. You were a bench player in your time… all these skilled athletes he speaks of he ain’t one of them

@pgf2940

Жыл бұрын

doesn't change the fact that Current NBA is more skilled and better than the Old NBA.

@joeymanny

Жыл бұрын

@@pgf2940 more skilled? no, Lukas game is just like the 70s and 90s which is more players do the same kind of style like west, rick barry, oscar, havlicheck, dann issel, alex english, bob petit, connie hawkins, walt fraizer, earl monroe, larry bird, chris mullin, elgin, mcadoo etc. Skills cannot be measured, those old guys can still dominate this era because they are skilled. Nobody is more skilled than MJ regardless of era , that time period tells you what you have done, look at kyrie he got the so called skills but he will be like journeyman that can't go any further

Gotta love a a Laker legend taking up for a Celtic legend and vice versa.

Jerry called JJ the Fireman of this era 😂

Yes, Jerry was right to fire back. My uncle R.I.P. would say, "All is fair in love and war." My great grandmother called it " Dope" 🤣🤣🤣

Do people forget that Bob and other all-stars also helped get the player's association started soo that young players like my generation get more money and better benefits than relying on a different job's benefits? He was even the first president of the NBPA.

JJ Redick plays no defense, shoots above .400 from the perimeter, but only averages under 15? Why are people still talking about this lol. JJ Redick was underworked and overpaid his entire NBA career, there's no way around that, he wouldn't have to face this reality if he just kept his asinine opinion in his head where it belongs. OVERPAID, JJ REDICK WAS OVERPAID. What he said was literally disrespectful.

@btrogers100

Жыл бұрын

He is literally paid by ESPN for his asinine opinion lol. So why would he keep his opinion in his head? Disrespectful or not it's lterally his job as an NBA analyst.

@Afr0Thund3r

Жыл бұрын

@@btrogers100 "Disrespectful or not, it's literally his job as an NBA analyst", what? His job as an analyst is to imply that underpaid players in the past who had full time jobs were actually bad at basketball? Yea, it's not, shut the fuck up.

@Papichulo-xc5nd

Жыл бұрын

@@btrogers100 he did it for the ratings and you know it

@One.Zero.One101

Жыл бұрын

People laugh at Kenny Smith for talking a bigger game than he actually had. Well Kenny's best season was 17 points and 8 assists. He was a better player than Reddick lol. 😅

If JJ Reddick switched birthdays with Bob Cousy he wouldn't have been good enough to play in the NBA. If Bob Cousy switched birthdays with Reddick he'd still be an all NBA player. Give a guy like Cousy all the resources of today (elite coaching from an early age, advanced film study, strength and conditioning, private air travel, no 2nd job outside of basketball) the sky would be the limit. However, if Reddick had to come up in Cousy era he wouldn't have made it in the NBA because of the lack of resources. Just like Russell told Jordan after The Bulls finished their 1st three peat (Jordan told Bill it was easier to win championships when he played) Paxson would have been sitting in the stands during my era, so you couldn't have won that last championship lol. Basically telling Jordan you're winning in a watered down league.

@pgf2940

Жыл бұрын

doesn't change the fact that Current NBA is more skilled and better than the Old NBA.

@mysterion5136

Жыл бұрын

@@pgf2940 Yeah but a lot of todays player wouldn't have even MADE the league in a 12 team NBA. Only the best got to make a team.

@John_Hoover

Жыл бұрын

By this rationale Jordan would have played with someone EVEN BETTER than John Paxson… Hardly a way to make an argument AGAINST Jordan winning.

@kyleolson279

Жыл бұрын

@@John_Hoover Yes, by this logic MJ would have had better teammates. (hard to imagine having a better teammate than Scottie though) But the point Bill was making to MJ was every team he played against was a good team because of the limited openings in the league at the time, there were no scrubs in the league. He only made this point because MJ tried to diminish his championships saying there were only 8 teams in the league.

@John_Hoover

Жыл бұрын

@@kyleolson279 Yes, but I’m not really disagreeing with that. I just push back on the idea that Jordan wouldn’t have won because Paxson would have been watching from his couch. Ok, then swap in an even better player from the 60s or 70s and Jordan STILL would have won. What Jerry is basically saying is “you only won because you had a poorer player alongside. You wouldn’t have won with a guy from our era.” Huh???

Jerry West didn't bring up JJ's 12pts a game to say, who is this guy. He brought it up to show that we can poke holes in anyone's game and that isn't fair, so don't do it to Bob Cousy.

@bradgaines

Жыл бұрын

Good point.

@ronbonora7872

Жыл бұрын

cousy averaged 18 points!

I just think it's a shame that in the NBA's 75th anniversary year the discussion has been about what players like Cousy WEREN'T rather than what they were. Especially as guys like cousy and pettit were there when the league started, are still around and likely won't be much longer. I was watching some cousy highlights his vision seems very very good and he was doing things nobody else at the time was doing. Oh and in 1961 he was 6th in mvp voting behind russell, pettit, baylor, wilt and oscar, none of whom are remembered as plumbers with the possible exception of wilt who was an accomplished pipe-layer

@BillouNicky

Жыл бұрын

LOL 😂 WILT THE PIPELAYER!

@antoniomcmahon3499

Жыл бұрын

Pipe layer..classic!!

@marcusjones2550

8 күн бұрын

He won MVP in 1957 as well.

If Wilt and a lot of the old skool players had all the advantages that they have to day training , nutrition travel etc... and all the benefits of seeing others JJ prolly wouldn't have made the league ijs we benefit from watching and emulating and tryna make it progress they where the originators much respect because without them there is no you tbh

@One.Zero.One101

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Wilt was a legit monster athlete of his generation. If he had access to sports science and advanced training facilities, it would be a scary image.

JJ disrespected. Read the situation upside down. The plumbers and fire fighters made the NBA what it is today, so that JJ can earn what he earned. I love JJ but he better take this L and improve.

Reddick can state his opinion without insulting somebody.. Jerry West was right to call him out . Insult for an insult..

its called being the bigger man which nobody under 50 is able to do. They sit there and crack jokes and rude comments about old men. Zero class and very disrespectful. Never would have heard that 30 years ago.

West also asked, even more importantly than averaging 12 points per game, What has he ever done? What has he ever won? And because apparently Reddick was a 3 point shooter, 12 points isn't that big of a deal, that's only 4 baskets!

Reddick couldn't carry Cousy or Jerry West's jock strap. Jerry West is the silhouette of the NBA logo- enough said.

JJ would’ve been a regular dude. True stats don’t just roll over. He would’ve played the same style of ball they played in that era. Would’ve been average at best. Also no 3pt line, JJ barely crackin 10 pts/game

@SomeChink

Жыл бұрын

lololol without a three point line JJ doesn’t get drafted

@MrRufusRToyota

Жыл бұрын

JJ was a specialist. He couldn’t play in the league before the three.

@god_ingmar5103

Жыл бұрын

If you take JJ as is he is right now, with all the training, conditioning and knowledge he’s accumulated, there’s no doubt he cooking people back then. There’s just no way. You guys are trippin. People were great for their era and that’s it. Ain’t no way you take a modern athlete and put them to play in the 60s they’re not cooking 90% of the league.

@atlien5935

Жыл бұрын

@@god_ingmar5103 I’m sayin, that’s given. If you take Lebron as he is now and drop him in the 60s of course he would dominate. But if he GREW UP during the 60s and played the same style of ball they did, the stat lines would be different

@god_ingmar5103

Жыл бұрын

@@atlien5935 but that’s not what we’re talking about. In fact, that’s literally JJ’s point. That people now can dedicate their entire life to their craft whereas people back then couldn’t. So people are more skilled nowadays.

The worst argument ever is to compare the past players/style with todays. Pointless.

@mauriciokrebs2913

Жыл бұрын

amen

@One.Zero.One101

Жыл бұрын

Every generation thinks they're the best generation. Comparing different eras is not only pointless, but also an impossible question. It's one of the most annoying topics in basketball and it's only there for the clickbait and sensationalism.

Dan should have JJ on his show and have a discussion about his comments. It feels like things were taken out of context and people are running with it.

@aaronbarkley539

Жыл бұрын

Nah they weren’t JJ is just an idiot and only cares about players getting paid, and his ego not getting hurt.

@god_ingmar5103

Жыл бұрын

Totally. It’s actually crazy how out of context things are being taken. JJ said this, but it was in defense of someone putting down the current generation of players. Dan trying to say he isn’t acknowledging the players that came before him is just off the ball as that’s not what that conversation was even about.

@gregorydunston2952

Жыл бұрын

It actually wasn’t at all lmao. Those comments came from JJ attacking Mad Dog Russo on First Take for Russo always bringing up past players to trash the current players so JJ got into his feelings

@JasonDickey33

Жыл бұрын

JJs point was to say you can't compare modern players to anyone before 1980 because they weren't even full time players. It started because Mad Dog said Bob Cousy was better than Chris Paul and JJ said "Bob Cousy couldn't dribble with his left hand". It sounds disrespectful (and is a little) but that is precisely why he said you couldn't compare modern to pre-1980. The game just wasn't evolved. I guarantee you JJ would pay homage and respect to the work done by those players so the game became what it is.

@dominicfischio851

Жыл бұрын

out of context? nonsense. jj said what he said, and it was completely disrespectful & stupid. it’s 1 thing for a civilian to say this, but a player & commentator needs to be more responsible & respectful with his/her comments, and recognize previous players & generations

The logo is such a cool nickname.

Ironically being able to play a rigorous NBA schedule and then go work at your 9-5 like a hard working citizen is actually harder than just playing Basketball as a career and builds character. JJ reddick is all the way wrong here.

If JJ Redick played back in that era he would have to get a summer job because of his point average

@MrZackavelli

Жыл бұрын

he'd probably have to get a job *during* the season too, lol

@ronbonora7872

Жыл бұрын

he would not have been playing period. With 8 teams in the league Redick would not have made the league. The more teams there are the more the league is watered down!

@One.Zero.One101

Жыл бұрын

JJ is a pretentious pseudo-intellectual from Duke who thinks his opinions are worth more than the hardworking blue-collar plebs.

If you watch actual Bob Cousy highlights, he made about five difficult passes per game back then that today's players other than Magic and possibly LeBron would struggle with now.

@princssnasty

Жыл бұрын

i’ve watched tons of those old celtics vs lakers games of the 60s and you are FULL OF IT lmao 😆 his impressive passes are RARE not the norm, and he would literally be THE WORST passing PG in the entire NBA today (if you brought him here in a time machine that is, i’m sure he’d be great if he’d grown up in this era)

I’m not a fan JJ Redicks talk show commentary or podcast. I definitely wasn’t a fan of his reasonings as to why flopping is great and needed and an art form on the ESPN daily podcast. Im not into it.

@woody5581

Жыл бұрын

JJ is super woke

@H0VA

Жыл бұрын

JJ is crap and a far lefty who tries to virtue signal every chance he gets with his wokeness. Boring and predictable

@iFanchi

Жыл бұрын

@@woody5581 🤣

@NerdyRed23

28 күн бұрын

I never liked JJ Reddipshit

The argument was because one guy said he take bob over Chris Paul

@TheMan750

Жыл бұрын

Christopher Mad Dog Russo said he’d take Cousy over Paul

@bluebasketballinc6599

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMan750 I know it was Russo I just didn’t want to say his name😂

@TheMan750

Жыл бұрын

@@bluebasketballinc6599 lol

@Gnofg

Жыл бұрын

Russo has a solid argument. Cousy's wizardry, style, and passing is the modern PG. Paul who is terrific has not changed the position at all.

@rileyhaley3848

Жыл бұрын

Cousy 18/5/7 and Paul 18/4/9 it's not crazy at all to say you'd rather have Cousy.

The logo had spoken. 🤪

Of course, if JJ can speak out , the Legend, West certainly can respond.

Firemen and policemen are much more valuable to the rest of us than basketball players

Im using firing up a bone every time now 😂

The expression firing up a bone originally came from the expression "fire up a dinosaur bone"...

JJ Reddick may have over-stated his point, but he is absolutely right. One of the best ways to get better is to constantly play against better competition. It is undeniable fact that there was a lot less competition back in the 50's and 60's, even the 70's. So today's players aren't just bigger, stronger, faster AND much better shooters. They have also played against much better competition their entire lives leading up to the point they make it to the NBA. So it's not even just a claim of NBA competition being better ... that is, more better NBA players in today's game ... but it is also a claim of every player having played against better competition since they were 10 years old, and spent more time getting better. This is a simple fact. It is not to say that some of those studs from the 50's and 60's wouldn't have developed like some of today's studs, but they didn't at the time. Plus there were far far far less of them ... meaning, there was far less competition to maximize any player's upside from when they were 10 years old. Just ask any coach or scout today how a young player can get better ... practice more and play more against better competition. To say today's players aren't way better is an insult to them and illogical ... they are practicing and playing a whole lot more against better competition their whole lives ... simple facts. So when Reddick quips about playing against plumbers and firemen ...that is the inference. And it is rather obvious, not controversial at all.

Guarantee he wouldn’t say that about Bill Russell.

@ronbonora7872

Жыл бұрын

or Wilt Chamberlain or Kareem LOL

Both Jerry West and JJ Redick were excellent shooters not that JJ would give The Logo credit for that. Of course, Mr Cutch average 27 a game vs 12 a game for JJ. 💯

The difference between Jerry West and JJ Redick is Jerry will be remembered forever because he was a great player, while JJ will be remembered for dissing great players.

Bill Russell looks like he was playing against plumbers in the B/W films.

Jerry had every right to call out JJ the fool

Jerry West said that because JJ Reddick was being disrespectful to Bob Cousy who is a legend. In comparison who us JJ Reddick to insult a legend!!!

Back in those days, the world’s greatest athletes moonlighted as firemen and plumbers.

Of course he was! Greats would Greats in any era!

Was Jerry West right? He was always right.

Bob Cousy and Jerry West (RIP) are both legends. JJ should have just not commented.

Here's some advice for young bucks...never disrespect the ones who paved the way. ESPECIALLY when the era includes the guy who is literally the GD NBA logo!

DP right on point 👌🏻

The game will keep evolving and getting better. The Best player does not exist yet. The game is still very young. New training, New athletes, better equipment, coaching, etc. Today's athletes have an unfair advantage over those of yesteryear and same will be true in the future. I don't think jj would disagree and say he doesn't understand the importance of how hard it was and how it made everything possible today...just today's nba player is better than yesterday, and tomorrow's will be better than today. Just my humble opinion

@ronbonora7872

Жыл бұрын

The record books show that Wilt Chamberlain still holds 72 NBA records to this day. Has anyone even come close to scoring 100 points in one NBA game. Kobe got 81 which is not even close to the 100 record! LOL

I never heard of JJ Redick until about 2 years before he retired lol.

@ronbonora7872

Жыл бұрын

JJ Who?🤣

JJ is a fool. If he gets the Lakers' job, they'll regret it.

I loved what Jerry said!

Jerry he did that because he knew that would get through to JJ. JJ needs to know his place in the pecking order, he's got no place to say shit about Bob Cousey.

Hey Dan Jerry West is in the HOF. JJ isn't even being mentioned for the HOF and never will be.

If time travel were possible, I am sure JJ would be the most dominant in the 60s. But if he were born and raised in that era, doubt he would even made the team either! Nothing to brag about when we are better than our predecessors, we learned from their experience and mistakes...

@Papichulo-xc5nd

Жыл бұрын

Adam Wang you have no clue what your talking about if u think jj wouldn’t be a role player in that era

Jerry West is a beast. JJ think those “plumbers” couldn’t light up a normal dude off the street? Rank the best players in the world today JJ lower on the list than those plumbers r back in there day.

@caseyfortune-squires4658

Жыл бұрын

I mean that’s pretty much the entire point that he’s making though.

Jerry West was the MAN!

70's -90s ballplayer were just so much more skilled than todays. Todays game the officials dont officiate because players excepting the Europeans have such little grasp of fundamentals.

Averaging 12 ppg in the past wasn’t amazing but it wasn’t horrible either. It’s still not horrible by an objective standard but with scoring the way it is now and jj being a shooting specialist, jerry is basically saying get outta here with your arrogance

JJ would have been a fan in those years

@AndrewWright1998

Жыл бұрын

Nah bro 😂

Great job

Yes.

They didn't have second jobs except the 15th guys on the bench.

Crappy shoes vs. high-quality shoes. Buses across the country and crappy motels vs. Private planes and Ritz Carlton. Limited access to gyms vs unlimited access. Ice, tape, and asperin vs. physical therapist and hyperbaric chambers. Play on a dirt driveway growing up vs. AAU from the age of 8. Gee, I wonder what generation is better.

JJ was using stats, trying to talk shhhhtuff about Larry Bird. Why not use JJ'S stats? 12/2/2?! I didn't know the ball boys got stats too.

jerrys right cmon respect the legends

The NBA fans who tear down the NBA hall of famers and the NBA era's the most are Michael Jordan fans then .

The logo just put Reddick in his place

It's obvious that dan didnt see the first take episode. Jj said that cp3 is more talented then cousey. Mad dog pulled cousey stats/accomplishments are better then cp3 and jj could have worded it better but said that the league is more talented now. I hear people say all the time that there is more talent in the nba now then ever, so why is it a big deal now

You damn right Jerry West is right.

AFAIK, JJ hasn’t apologized or retracted what he said so yeah, he’s fair game for return fire

Funny that so many claim Kareem is a GOAT and yet he was 6 wins and 15 losses against Willis Reed from 1969 to 74 even though the Bucks won 304 to the Knicks 266. Reed was hurt so badly from 1971 on only playing in 99 regular season games in 3 years and yet the last two times that Jabbar played Reed in November of 1973, Reed held Jabbar to 18 for 40 shooting for 45% and 44 points in 86 minutes. Reed held Jabbar to 50% shooting in 21 games and for his career Kareem shot 56%. Ewing played the old bald Jabbar who shot over 58% against Ewing and Reed played the 30 and 16 Jabbar and held him to 50% shooting! Maybe a little respect for the 1960's players!

Please! just watch vids of Cousy 1950's and 60's passing magic for the era! Hated Boston from NYC but loved watching Cousy! Then Pistol then Magic for pure showtime and many other wizards!

Like JJ but in all fairness he could never play back in the league before the three-point line.

Context of the quote was again not mentioned at all

JJ couldn’t carry Cousy’s shoes.

JJ need to respect firefighters police men

Don’t forget Spencer Haywood going all the way to the Supreme Court and winning his case allowing some of these ungrateful,not so talented guys today,to make all the money they do by getting into the NBA out of high school Todays players need to learn the history of the game and WHY the players in Bob Cousys era may have had to have a second job. THEY laid the foundation for the current NBA.They might also want to learn to have some RESPECT for those that came before them .

JJ should say that today's players are over rated. Paul and Westbrook and Harden And Lillard

His name is JJ😅 enough said...

No Jerry saying JJ is who? Like JJ is NOT in Jerry West LEVEL.... Even tho, West was working 2 jobs...

Jj is 💯 percent correct 😂😂😂,,

Yes

How many points did Dan Patrick average in the NBA???

JJ actually averaged 12.8 and The Logo rounded his a$$ down!!! LMAO!!

@rileyhaley3848

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Cousy averaged 18 and that's rounding down lol

Redick was such a nobody that he'll be better known for this comment than his basketball career.

@Papichulo-xc5nd

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Luna 💯💯

Is JJ Redick aware that the NBA players in 2082 will be much better than todays super star max contract players?

in fairness to jj he was in a discussion with an idiot.its a classic example of why you needa watch the company you keep or they might rub off on you.

Yes he was.

I like JJ'S perspective and knowledge of the game . Just never piss off " Zeke from Cabin Creek".....

@charlesconner9044

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Jerry West will hurt your feelings in the nicest way possible. Don't mess with The Logo

Of course he was right. Typical younger generation thinking nothing happened before they were born

I think ppl aren’t realizing jj was saying all that because legends always shit on the players in the future

Every team from 1960- 1990 had several accomplished low post players.Now you cannot find even 10 skilled inside players in a 30 team league. Dozens of players from prior decades were accurate shooters from a 12-18 foot range. Many current players seem lost when they catch the ball near the elbow. Even guards utilized a version of the hook shot in the 1960s. Now players totally disregard such an effective offensive weapon.The highest scoring NBA season was 1960-61. Instead of denigrating the skills of those who played 60 years ago, all those cynical observers should be trying to determine how these supposed Neanderthals were able to outscore their highly revered modern players. It does not require incredible athletic ability to stand on the perimeter and wait for a.catch and shoot opportunity.