Was it Good? - Eternal Ring
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The Forgotton FromSoftware RPG.
The PS2 launch title no one played.
Overshadowers by its big brothers Dark Souls, Bloodbourne and Elden Ring, poor little Eternal Ring gently slips from memory into obscurity.
But did this PS2 launch title actually have hidden depth we all missed?
Join me as we replay Eternal Ring, one of the strangest RPG's.
Thanks to the Patreon supporters as usual who keep the channel alive!
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this "was it good" series has become one of my favorite thing on youtube
@AdminAbuse
Жыл бұрын
Things*
@user-mk6nc1wm5q
Жыл бұрын
@@AdminAbuse jeez dude u hitler of grammatiks ?
@BerylliumOxide
Жыл бұрын
Same
@n8doggy733
Жыл бұрын
Especially given the content, old school FromSoft games, Legacy of Kain, etc. Yes please!
@catatonic165
Жыл бұрын
Saaaame
I love how the Essence of every FromSoft game bleeds into each other, like looking at a family of very different people and ages but you can tell they're related.
@ryushogun9890
Жыл бұрын
Like Ubisoft games, except it's good.
@AliasEliahus
Жыл бұрын
@@ryushogun9890 i have to admit that got an audible laugh from me
@chloewinnaa1515
Жыл бұрын
@@AliasEliahus it got an inaudible laugh from me though
@isaacharding
Жыл бұрын
Almost like they were made by the same developer...
@djandjb1
Жыл бұрын
@@isaacharding Yea, but holding this much consistence over such a long period? Between team changes and devs retiring, it’s amazing how the company took so many of its properties, refined their elements and interpreted them in ways that somehow always ended up engaging and fun, despite the fact they all have very obvious formulas that they remix to perfection. Sekiro still doesn’t feel the same as Elden ring, which doesn’t feel the same as bloodbourne, etc.. outside of fighting games, I don’t know a company who does what FromSoftware does with such an incredible amount of success. Also god I cannot wait for the new armored core experience… So much potential!
I'm married to probably the only person who counts this as one of their absolute favorite games but I'm not kidding when I say my wife has played through multiple copies of this game and cried happy tears when we found it on the PS4 store. I've never seen anyone else actually even talk about it (even when the PS2 first came out) so seeing it pop up here was almost surreal.
@kvltizt
Жыл бұрын
It’s a great game!
@kensloth
Жыл бұрын
Didn't know it was available on PSN until I just read this... Thanks!!
@jotun.616
Жыл бұрын
Aww its sweet it caused happy tears.
@SuperSecretAgentNein
Жыл бұрын
There’s a (in my humble opinion) very good Dark Souls centric podcast Bonfireside Chat that does at least one pretty long episode on Eternal Ring you might be interested in. Their newer episodes are behind a paywall but I’m PRETTY sure their eternal ring episode is free?
@mfallen6894
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperSecretAgentNein That's a good podcast that I totally forgot existed! Need to check it out again
I'm sure someone already brough that up, but the idea of the kid suddenly growing up in a few seconds was reused in the Bloodborne DLC, where the Orphan of Kos starts crying like a baby, but his cries grows into a mature man's cry by the end. I never played Bloodborne but I remember that vividly because the first time I heard it, it was just that scary.
_"The King treated the man of unknown identity, as one of his vassals"_ *Manbaby Soulus:* You're my friends now, we're having soft tacos later
@redpyre
Жыл бұрын
Soulus randomly at a royal banquet after the King gives a toast: "I was wondering if we could change the topic of discussion to baby seabirds?"
@TheNapster153
Жыл бұрын
I actually find the epilogue an entriguing setpiece. The closest I can think of is Alucard from Hellsing working for his nemesis descendants. The idea tha the protaganist and the final boss could find commonality and actually live together in the same general space in peace is intriguing. Furthermore, as mentioned, Soulus is still learning. I think King Ian was made privy to what happened on the Island much later and knows how powerful both his retainer and vassal are. Ironically, his position showed how noble he was as a leader since he didn't abuse either of the men.
@MagitekBahamuto
2 ай бұрын
Soulus is a good boy now.
Fun fact: The composer of Elden Ring's main theme, Radagon and Elden Beast (Tsukasa Saitoh) was also the composer of this game
@BloodyArchangelus
Жыл бұрын
The compositors of first armored core, Frequency band is still alive and gave us.. a Yuka Kitamura x)
@HEROm7
Жыл бұрын
@@BloodyArchangelus Yuka is goated, she composed DS3 and did some of the vocals when she was only 25! Insane talent
@BloodyArchangelus
Жыл бұрын
@@HEROm7 She composed Sekiro and even had some songs in ACV: Verdict day
@nuss5881
Жыл бұрын
That's why I love comments^^
@n8doggy733
Жыл бұрын
Theres TONS of references that Josh points out in this video, and item called Golden Seed an obsession with having the highest upgrade mats named after dragons, etc.
Honestly I really like the sort of small implicit character development at the end, Cain just chilling with Solas and all that. We need more final bosses that mature and turn into friends in games
For some reason, when I saw Soulus mulling over Lyla's death, I suddenly imagined the game with better voice acting, I thought about how Soulus would sound if he was genuinely upset at learning what mortality was.
Well, the concept of a psychopathic child with godlike power learning the value of human life and what to be sad is, and becoming a better person for it is actually very interesting and wholesome for a Fromsoftware game.
@serijas737
Жыл бұрын
Eternal Ring
@BrunodeSouzaLino
Жыл бұрын
And that's something already done by Galerians.
@chillhour6155
Жыл бұрын
DLC where you fight a Demigod fetus incoming
@senritsujumpsuit6021
Жыл бұрын
@@chillhour6155 Drakengard 1 be like army of fetuses from the sky
@prince_nocturne
9 ай бұрын
Also an actual ending, another rarity from them. Since most of their stories are 'And the cycle of misery continues.'
Eternal Ring, ooooh Eternal Ring.
@greylithwolf
Жыл бұрын
sir gideon ofnir THE MOST KNOWLEDGABLE!!
@aidenpearce6624
Жыл бұрын
Finger but hole!
@NieroshaiTheSable
Жыл бұрын
@@greylithwolf The loathsome dung eater!
I am pretty sure the pendant the one guy has is referenced in Dark Souls, with the pendant you can pick as your starting gift. It just acts as a reminder of your humanity and past, to not lose your mind and self, and has no special powers. And of course the Eternal Sword reminds me of the Moonlight Sword which is in SO MANY Fromsoft games.
@BigStankyFish
Жыл бұрын
If that's true then The Moonlight Greatsword has been part of FromSoft lore for 2 decades! Awesome.
@33link333
Жыл бұрын
@@BigStankyFish The Sword of Moonlight was in the very first King's Field, FromSoft's very first game from 1994.
@kakkacarmenelectra7229
11 ай бұрын
Also the guys who drops the eternal sword looks so much like a dark wraith!
@Wolfpaxrunning
9 ай бұрын
@@BigStankyFishthe moonlight sword is in every armored core as well. It's been a from soft staple since their first title kings field
@TwoSpark55
9 ай бұрын
In the new one? 👀 or all their AC games?
I have to hand it to Soulus's child VA, before the line "This... this feeling... Sad..." he absolutely _nailed_ that concerned confusion of a child first encountering death It was honestly heart wrenching
Since you didn't mention it when it happened, the winged demon guy you fight after getting the fire key is the same corrupted expedition captain that killed the new expedition team earlier, just fully transformed, which is why he says "you followed me". He acts as a small bit of foreshadowing of the reveal that happens with Lyla and her father right afterwards.
@FakYuhGoogel
Жыл бұрын
So this guy 20:44 turns into this guy 38:29 (apparently survives this encounter) and turns into this guy 1:09:29?
@DolusVulpes
Жыл бұрын
@Fak Yuh Googel yeah, more or less. The first major clue is that his second form/first boss fight shares the exact same size and shape as the monstrous parts of his partially transformed appearance, and that that third form/second boss fight has the same appearance as the second form but all twisted and warped, likely as a result of him not healing properly from the first boss fight. The second is that he's the only actual character you meet capable of speech besides Lyla who actually sticks around long enough to even have these sorts of interactions with you, and both his first and second boss fights start with him talking to you as if he's met you before, which is impossible for any other character before that point.
@gabbagoo9774
Жыл бұрын
@@FakYuhGoogel When you beat him (38:29) it shows him flying off in the game
"There's no morality, there's no sense, there's no desire. It just IS, and wants you to not be." Phenomenal writing man, I adore this description
@lkim100
Жыл бұрын
but if it has no desire, how can it want?
@KawaiiStars
Жыл бұрын
@@lkim100 instinct?
@lkim100
Жыл бұрын
@@KawaiiStars hmm
@abra4662
11 ай бұрын
@@KawaiiStars but with instinct has sense, how is no sense?
@Superabound2
9 ай бұрын
@@lkim100Duty or Obedience
I never watched anything from this creator before yet I just spent over an hour watching a video about a game I'd never played. This was truly well done.
@cvernon5256
Жыл бұрын
Personally, he's one of my favorite creatures on here. There's another series of his that I watch if and on cake Worst MMO Ever where he explored and explains a bunch of them. He does good work and the general technical detail, amiability, and enjoyment present makes them good to listen to, if not watch
@lektik2941
Жыл бұрын
Same! 🤣
@wiseguise5960
10 ай бұрын
Josh is just amazing with his narration and writing. I easily watch his 1hr+ long videos, but I also do like longer form content/videos in general.
@BierBart12
5 ай бұрын
That's why long video essays about games I've never played have become one of my favourite things these past years. When someone has the energy to make stuff like this, it's almost always done with passion Once it was no longer required by school or anything, It's become kinda fun to do intense research and write up something long for me as well. It's a great way to explore topics you were never interested in before, once you get into it.
@polboygiraffetamer6654
5 ай бұрын
@@BierBart12 There's something exquisite about learning about an obscure game. I see the PS2 is a goldmine for games like that. And this video introduced me to this new hobby of mine.
Seeing this and then seeing how far we've come with Elden Ring fills me with determination
I can't believe he skipped over "IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN D--" in the village attack, the cutoff always makes me chuckle.
Lmao I love how the running theme of FromSoft not being able to finish the snow levels they oh so love to try and include or having them be rushed is consistent here too.
@Flackon
Жыл бұрын
What running theme? The Painted World of Ariamis was literally the prototype level they made first to test Dark Souls
@herolumierelumanite1608
Жыл бұрын
From has ADHD when it comes to snow.
@RayearthIX
Жыл бұрын
@@Flackon He's likely referring to Demon's Souls, where the 6th area was a snow area that was made, but was never finished and was ultimately scrapped to make the release deadline. You can find videos where people went into the game code and "played" what exists of the area. People for years thought they would release DLC for the game adding the level, and some hoped it would be added in the PS5 remaster... but nope.
@PlusOne2Crit
Жыл бұрын
The snow area in Elden Ring isn't rushed, or unfinished. Short =/= rushed.
@yaboi2500
Жыл бұрын
@@PlusOne2Crit You’re right. It’s just a bad area all around.
About the day/night cycle. I vaguely remember the time of day effecting your rings in some way. It's just never explained well and really hard to notice. I vaguely remember was certain healing rings healing more at night? Also, fatal water is a staple of old Fromsoft games, rule of thumb, if the water is high enough to wade through it will kill you. One last thing, Eternal Ring did have fall damage but it wasn't anywhere near as punishing as you described, when you tested it in the video you landed in some nasty fatal water, thats what killed you. Amazing video as always Quick edit, the time of day also plays into a larger calendar system. Different elements are boosted on different days, I nearly forgot about that. Last edit I swear. Eternal Ring was a rushed game. The game was pushed out so the team could finish work on Kings Field 4 which ended up coming out a year later.
Plot twist: This game does not exist and is all part of Josh's imagination. Baby birds and a floating baby.
"Attacking an enemy's source, not the enemy itself" *cries in Bed of Chaos*
@1Kapuchu100
Жыл бұрын
For every good idea, there is a bad execution of that idea xD
@Salmacream
Жыл бұрын
@@1Kapuchu100 Bed of chaos was always one of the more fun fights for me. I liked that I was punished a ton with a lot of running, the annoying enemies and low flasks to get back to the boss.
@Mantosasto
Жыл бұрын
Those damn enemies in the poison DS2 dlc ;_;
Fun thing, the "analog" option in the game isn't referring to the sticks, but rather the d-pad. If you turn it on you can push it softer to walk
@Coldsteak
Жыл бұрын
yup, not a lot of people knew the dualshock 2 had analog face buttons and d-pad. not many games used it though
@KasumiRINA
Жыл бұрын
@@Coldsteak Gran Turismo had a surprise for you if you didn't put the X button to the metal, car would not accelerate fully... mind you, for a kind-of-a-sim, it's useful.
@oh-not-the-bees7872
Жыл бұрын
Metal gear solid 3 used it well, as letting go of square slowly would hoster your weapon instead of firing it, grappling an enemy and then pushing down hard and quickly on circle would slit their throat, and I can't remember which button it is but you can zoom in during cutscenes and control the level of zoom by how hard you pressed the face button.
@jesfest
Жыл бұрын
The bouncer, star ocean, and (I think) midnight club 3 used analog buttons. The first 2 for changing what attacks the buttons did, while the latter was for acceleration. IIRC my dualshock2 was well worn by that point, so I think I used the right analog stick to accelerate in midnight club 3, because the button wasn't cutting it. ...Y'know, I kind of miss having all analog controllers like that. Wonder whether they should come back, or if it's not worth it.
@FingerSpazm
Жыл бұрын
Fromsofts game Evergrace also used it for attacking. Pressing square lightly was a light attack. Pressing it hard was a heavy attack
As a souls fanboy, I thought this game would be another in their list of "janky but interesting" titles everyone forgot about. But, wow, that storyline is something else. From has always been good at their stories, but Lyla's death teaching Soulless empathy is excellent. It was only with the death of someone he actually cared about that he learnt that there would be others whose deaths would carry meaning for someone else who cared about them. That is just mesmerising. Justifies my From fanaticism even more. :')
12:30 the fact that they animated the taking and opening of the letter is more effort on details than most games nowadays make. It's so interesting to see this game going out of its way on several small things while completely dropping the ball on bigger things.
@senritsujumpsuit6021
Жыл бұрын
This furthers how good a tweaked remake can be
@bruceluiz
7 ай бұрын
FinalFantasy14 has a plendora of npcs that just "pick up" invisible itens and sometimes "read" their own palms... and thats a 2013ish MMO.
That opening voice acting is amazing. It manages to sound exactly like a rudimentary text to speech program.
@FreedomIII
Жыл бұрын
Right!? I literally second-guessed whether I was hearing a human or not for like 10 seconds (≧∀≦)
I remember getting this game when it first came out. I unwrapped this game the Christmas it came out, my dad acted so pissed that the "Guy at the store gave him the wrong game" He took it from me and said he was taking it back with the receipt. I was so heartbroken and then I unwrapped the PS2 and I was completely overjoyed. I remember asking my dad how he got it all and he said that he waited in line in freezing october to get it lol along with the PS2. It was great too because I remember my mom getting so mad at him for "Picking up an extra graveyard shift" on his day off lol. I still have this game, the original one I got SO many years ago...damn this video brought back so many great memories!
@chillhour6155
Жыл бұрын
Great dad
@arknark
10 ай бұрын
Having a loving dad sounds pretty great. Count yourself lucky!
@IceMcFried
8 ай бұрын
What a wonderful memory, thanks for sharing!
Holy crap, 58:15-58:17 You just uncovered the origins of the Pendant meme LMAO
26:49 is just Heide's Tower of Flame 32:40 is just the 3 giants room in Black Gulch and 39:28 is the Iron Golem! These guys just wanted to make Dark Souls for a loooong time
@reinofhearts
8 ай бұрын
This. Amazing observational skills! 🤯
@brotbrotsen1100
12 күн бұрын
Wouldn't it be the other way around?
Something about the final boss being a child with godlike powers who acts like a kid is absolutely terrifying
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
Жыл бұрын
An Ur-Child, if you will.
@-Monad-
Жыл бұрын
Basically the plot of Dragon Ball Super
@jeanfigueroa6235
Жыл бұрын
@@-Monad- Also applies to Buu, I guess?
@Nwoknu
Жыл бұрын
It reminded me of Kefka from Final Fantasy 6
@ryanbauer3680
Жыл бұрын
"And really, there is nothing more innocent and cruel than a child." -Jet Black, Cowboy Bebop
This game looks like proof of concept for the ancient city. They saw what worked and what didn't with the new PS2 technology and made a great game after
@thombias
Жыл бұрын
It's easy to see Eternal Ring is a prototype for KF4 fleshed out as a full game and you can tell they were still working with the technology powering the PS1 King's Field games, because all the levels are still built in a grid and mechanically not much has happened between ER and KF3. It's only really the graphics and performance that improved. I mean heck, even the controls remained unchanged. They built upon Eternal Ring and scrapped everything that didn't work or belonged in KF4.
@BloodyArchangelus
Жыл бұрын
Yes. typical fromsoft
@Karanagi
Жыл бұрын
From Software's iteration on the same concept clearly payed off. KF4 held up very well.
@RedstoNeman0
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, I hope josh plays it and then tries shadow tower abyss with all the weirdness of that game lol
I would love to see the current fromsoft team make a game like this again.
@cvernon5256
6 ай бұрын
That would be amazing! Another game I'd loved to see a remake of is Machine Hunters, especially if the team behind Doom did it. Freaky aliens, bizarre mechs, human experimentation, it's an interesting world for the game that their action focused horror would do well with.
There is ONE other 'use' of the day/night cycle and it's really a hinderance. The npcs in the 1st village move around at different times of day and the guy you're supposed to give the letter to will go to bed and lock the door until like 8 am, preventing you from progressing if you happen to go there at the wrong time. One of the best spells, especially for killing the floating mages is Poison especially when you get Power of Seek ring. Lvl 3 Earth gems are able to be farmed once you have access to forest right after the 1st dungeon (the water temple) and it lets you bypass the awful poison valley area that the npcs tell you to go through instead. Tornado is excellent as well but it will suck up a lot of MP early on and can be really dangerous without Seek because it often drifts around. (Yes, your own spells can hurt you. The dragon summons are typically lethal if you're too close when you cast them.) Also, both you and enemies can cast spells through walls and doors, so be ready to cheese or die horribly in the Iron Mill. Holy moly! That footage at like 7:26 is the bonus secret dungeon in the start area, and somehow you have less than 300 hp. You must have sped your way through the game to get that, because that's pretty underleved for how nasty those monsters are, esp in the ice area. The cockatrices can prob one-shot you at that level.
as someone who always used to read game manuals cover to cover (and honestly misses them today), this game is amazing.
@ThePhysicalReaction
Жыл бұрын
this seems like a game where you'd need to read the manual. I was dissapoint that the elden ring digital manual wasn't more complete
@DamenSmith
Жыл бұрын
I really do miss game manuals. I loved the designs of them. I loved the extra lore or info about the developers. Most of all I loved how it made the time it took to install games on my PC go by faster because I would be reading the manual on the way home from the store and while the game was installing.
The age of manuals was great. You give your friend the first go, agree to swap seats when they die, then learn how to play properly between the manual and examples of gameplay on screen. You take over when they die and get to play till dinner time while they're stuck watching because you know what you're doing.
@TG-ge1oh
Жыл бұрын
Seems like you definitely spent some time peeping into my childhood room while I played with my friends lol. Jokes aside, I miss those days. Playing a single player game with friends was such a vibe. I wonder if we'll ever get back to those days... maybe after retirement, if I'm not dead by then?
@Sandro234
Жыл бұрын
I knew a guy (definitely not me) who collected game manuals from blockbuster back in the day...rumor has it they are still in a cupboard somewhere 😅
@nicholassullivan1239
Жыл бұрын
I miss these days. Games have gotten so much better, but those experiences will never be surpassed.
@thatonegeeksite5251
Жыл бұрын
@@Sandro234 I was always the guy that would be pissed because the game I rented didn’t have a manual because someone stole it😂 I did rent from a place tho where if you lost the manual you had to pay like $10 so there was never any going missing which was nice.
@ShadowMistNinja
Жыл бұрын
I would read them on the bus ride back home from the mall haha 😂
Even the concept of humans turning into dragons dates back to this game. Jesus.
Several years back I went and played every kings field and eternal ring. Was such a fun experience seeing the building blocks of what would eventually become my favorite game series ever. The aesthetics and music of Kings Field & Eternal Ring are so amazing to me
There is a strange lack of detail in some places and a great amount in others like the man actually opening the letter in the beginning. Overall it shows what fromsoftware's ambitions we're back then and seeing them getting it right with the newer titles is amazing. I replay freelancer a 2003 flying space shooter game every year as a nostalgia vibe. I would be interested in seeing what you think of it if you're interested
@Skenjin
Жыл бұрын
I loved the Defenders game on the PS2 that was a 3D ship combat game against alien insect things with some tower defense sections.
@arkadyromanov7803
Жыл бұрын
Give Everspace 2 a try.
@mrpjfresh1810
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Freelancer. Talk about a blast from the past! And what a voice cast on that game as well! Had almost forgotten all about it. Good call.
@g76agi
Жыл бұрын
Oh freelancer was very good, my dad showed it to me when i was a kid and it was pretty fun
@tiberiusbrain
Жыл бұрын
Freelancer was awesome. Its why i love elite dangerous even more (no, im not buying into star citizen for now)
I think only Drakengard fans can share the difficulty of explaining an obscure jrpg with Baby gods at the end.
@SupaDanteX
9 ай бұрын
God that game. And that "fight". Cursed knowledge.
@john_michael97
8 ай бұрын
Earthbound? ;)
"Having a snowy tundra connected to a massive storm tower by a tunnel would be silly so they teleport you around" >Dark Souls 2: you climb up to the top of a poisoned windmill, then take an elevator UP to the fiery depths of the Iron Keep
HOLY SHIT! THIS IS THE GAME THAT'S HAUNTED MY DREAMS FOR YEARS. YES! FINALLY, I REMEMBER IT! THANK YOU! now to watch the video❤
I remember when I was a kid, I was very creeped out by Adult Soulus for the ten seconds he's on screen. My dad was also unimpressed by the ending screen text, rolling his eyes and sarcastically saying "GEE, I wonder who THAT COULD BE" Still, this made me nostalgic for how fantasy rpgs used to be watching it
@starmanda88
Жыл бұрын
Your dad rules 😂😂😂
@dustgraystone9448
7 ай бұрын
Your dad doesn't sound fun, lol.
i'd actually love to see you cover kings field. Also I love how the Eternal Sword is straight up the Moonlight Greatsword. The MGS roots run deep.
@hypertion
Жыл бұрын
My first mgs was a laser sword strapped to the arm of my mech in armored core on ps1. It was basically a legend as it was the best overall blade.
@Cue-Ball.
Жыл бұрын
@@hypertion The first MGS was actually in King's Field their first game, not Armored Core. AC is where they started the trend of adding it to other games though.
@Argonisgema
Жыл бұрын
@@Cue-Ball. I love that its been in every game from has ever made with i think sekiro being the exception but i'm not sure.
@quintonhoffert6526
Жыл бұрын
@@Argonisgema Sekiro doesn't have a playable MGS, but the Divine Dragon's Seven-Branched Sword functions as the MGS since it has all the other properties (glows greenish, giant sword, shoots sword beams). Also, I got into the FromSoft side relatively late and my first MGS was the one in Dark Souls. I did play Demon's Souls before Dark Souls, but I hated World 5 (didn't we all?) and never found the Large Sword of Moonlight in the motherfucking swamp. Though, considering that I wasn't a big fan of Faith in Demon's Souls I don't know that I would have been drawn to actually use it even if I had found it.
@ArvelDreth
27 күн бұрын
@@Cue-Ball.He said "my first" not "the first"
39:00 Probably the coolest explanation for a plain enemy design and now makes me appreciate geometric ememies a lot more. Eternal Ring seems like the type of game that has the most amazing potential. It could've come out in recent years, even if it wasn't as fleshed out but added what was recommended and better graphics and animations and genuinely it would be a good modern game.
Reminds me of two highly underrated games on the PS2 which were extermination and EOE Eve of Extinction. Definitely worth checking out both of them.
@brotbrotsen1100
12 күн бұрын
The ps2 is a goldmine for hidden gems. You stumble upon something cool you never heard of all the time. Just the other day i found a action game starring a Japanese pop star, geckt or something, and it's actually fun as hell
Eternal ring was fascinating one. It worked like a dark souls game, but played like echo night, really under-rated fromsoft series where you communicate with the dead and help them pass on with their own heartbreaking yet realistic stories of unfinished business. Man, echo night was such a good game. Maybe you should play that next, josh.
@TG-ge1oh
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like an awesome series! Are they compatible with current gen hardware/OS? I'd love to learn more about them, especially if Josh does cover them.
@OutOfTheShadows1
Жыл бұрын
@@TG-ge1oh sadly they were only on ps1 and 2 but you can pretty easily emulate them. if you like that sorta thing they're really well done. nitrorad has some good videos on the series if you're curious about them
@ultimantomega
Жыл бұрын
Seconded. I love the old Fromsoft games and while Kings Field is my favourite, there is nothing out there quite like Echo Nights. Very good ambience, very good story, very good puzzles. Even aged quite well since there isn't any janky combat or weird systems holding it down (except the minigame to get the good/evil ending of the first game.)
@noahtuttle9007
Жыл бұрын
@T G if you have a ps3 you can get the first one on psn sadly echo night beyond you have to emulate make sure to enable software mode
@deadlyninja112
Жыл бұрын
Kinda sounds like Ghost Wire: Tokyo
Lyla: "He COMPLETELY lost his human consciousness. Let me handle this!" Oh cool, is she going to take down the fire dragon, because she can use magic too, and is much more badass, being an ancestor to what we are? Can't wait to see how she handles it! Lyla: "Father, it's me, Lyla, can you stop, pretty please?"
@i30817
Жыл бұрын
And dad naturally fires a column of fire at the boy that was talking to his daughter. Some classics just can't be improved, but adding dragonfire is probably better than most shotguns.
@xialnackharaa
Жыл бұрын
Which is also amusing because some if the dialog would suggest that lyla and Cain are related.
@Elementroar
Жыл бұрын
@@i30817 It’s funny because Cain is his son so he and Lyla are brother and sister, so it’s now Alabama!
I find videos about obscure videogames like this one to be way more interesting when compared to the pokemon one. We've all experienced pokemon, while this is a hidden gem. Amazing video!
Oh my God you did Eternal Ring. This was one of first ps2 games. Back when I first got my ps2 I didn't have a memory card for around a month, so I left my ps2 on while I was at school and beat the game without ever turning it off. Such nostalgia
@thesmugargonian5357
Жыл бұрын
It’s a wonder you didn’t start a fire big enough to take down the entirety of Mongolia by doing that
@boobah5643
Жыл бұрын
Considering that means death = restart, it's kind of impressive.
@treytotreys917
Жыл бұрын
@@boobah5643 I died. A lot. lol
@smosby5
Жыл бұрын
Lol I did the same thing when I first got my PS2 and Kingdom Hearts
@slayedbyquilegaming
Жыл бұрын
Lol i did this for zelda wind waker. My GameCube had my back!
I personally think the atmosphere in this game is amazing.
@AJ-po6up
Жыл бұрын
If there's something that FromSoftware's games always nailed ever since King's Field I/II is the atmosphere. For that alone they're worth playing even if they're clunky, hard and frustrating at times.
@GooseGumlizzard
Жыл бұрын
all games from that time period (late 90s / early 2000s) had it. Miss that shit.
Your channel is hands down one of if not my favorite channel atm, please never stop making these videos lol
I had a blast with this game as a kid and remember all the frustrations as well. This game should definitely be remade.
1:05:38 "The mechanics of a decent game are there. What the game lacks is any way for a player to understand them in game." The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@esssss8415
Жыл бұрын
I would say it’s the opposite now. Easy to understand, but not enough interesting mechanics anymore.
@thombias
Жыл бұрын
@@esssss8415 Yeah exactly, i so much agree with this sentiment. I had such a good time with King's Field from 1995 for PS1. The game doesn't explain anything to you and i had a blast trying to figure out everything within this janky early 3D metroidvania dungeon crawler.
@night1952
Жыл бұрын
@@esssss8415 I assume he was refering to modern From games since they still have cryptic mechanics.
@esssss8415
Жыл бұрын
@@night1952 They’ve gotten blatantly more simple though. Compare Elden ring and Dark Souls 3 to any older souls games, or kings field and they are much simpler.
@night1952
Жыл бұрын
@@esssss8415 I completely disagree.
For years I thought this game was a fever dream I had. Like, this weird kind of unfinished memory that my brain had tried to put together. I even asked my dad if I played something like this and he couldn't remember buying it for me. I saw this video and I knew instantly that this was it. It was so surreal hearing about each boss and level and reliving things I straight up forgot I had. The weird legs guy, the baby, the valley with the one shopkeeper. I even remember reading the manual and it mentioning summon rings. I was obsessed with making one and that thought pushed me to finish I think. The fact that later in life the same company would make some of my favorite games is insane to me. My mind is literally blown right now. Awesome video, for real.
@yonathanasefaw9001
Жыл бұрын
Insane!
@jarlwhiterun7478
Жыл бұрын
We have that E. Ring game developed by From Software at home...
@jotun.616
Жыл бұрын
I have a game like that, im convinced at this point it had to be a dream. I cant even find the console i played it on.
This was a joy to watch, Thank you. the voice acting at the beginning was peak and the ending was something I wouldnt have expected but is on brand. lol
The last 4 nights in a row, I begin playing this video and I am sleeping 15 minutes later. Thanks for helping me sleep. One day I will watch the whole video
As good as FromSoft's games have gotten since this, you gotta give them credit for having animated mouths when the NPCs talk
@SmogginMog
Жыл бұрын
eh.
@ddgnp1057
Жыл бұрын
And yet in the 23 years since this game they've regressed in that fashion
@TiberiusCreates
Жыл бұрын
@@ddgnp1057 Yes that's the funny thing about it
@coolbrotherf127
Жыл бұрын
Except for the main character who just stands there completely motionless for 99% of the cutscenes
@_Tzer
Жыл бұрын
fun fact: the japanese version did not have voice acting so this is like double effort.
this is truly the eternal ring of king’s field 2
@cybercop0083
Жыл бұрын
Hear hear!
One of my very favorite games from my childhood! Thank you so much for doing this playthrough! It was a continuation of the feng shui magic/ring system games, Lagoon from SNES and Quest 64.
I loved shadow tower just for the audio. You need headphones to experience it right. Every bleep and bloop sounds like nothing to start, until you realize you can track 5 things moving in different directions and patterns and speeds behind you just by elaborate sound design.
Too many games would have had the "big bad" just get a second phase after experiencing loss for the first time, instead of growing as part of the experience.
@banaman7746
Жыл бұрын
I guess the real prize was the final boss we befriend along the way?
@wazzu4488
Жыл бұрын
Good thing we have Gabriel.
@bradleycalkins394
Жыл бұрын
If only they had portrayed Soulus' transformation in a way that didn't imply a second phase.
16:45 I love how the death animation was almost the same as it is today :D
This game hit me like a fever dream. I was just watching a video about the history of Patches in fromsoft games and one of the older games triggered me into remember playing Eternal Ring, a game I haven’t thought of in over 20 years
I like that you breakdown everything including controls, UI, and all that. I appreocate knowing how that effects the experience without having to play it myself.
Just found this channel, I think it's great Richard Hammond is doing video game reviews
@anaguma90
Жыл бұрын
I can't unnotice this now
@kanekarazi6477
Жыл бұрын
LMAO omg
As janky and dated this game might be, I love those kind of games more than modern realistic titles. It feels otherwordly and fascinating.
@the_ecips9692
Жыл бұрын
Dito. there's modern day games catching this exact feeling (for me, at least :) ). You might like "Dread Delusion".
@megamen7353
Жыл бұрын
Its most likely due to the simpleness of the earlier games. I dont talk about the difficulty, more like as a concept it was easier to just play a game. Now every game demands too much time, attention etc. Older games feel more like "games" in that way.
@turbo8628
Жыл бұрын
@@megamen7353 too much emphasis on quantity over quality recentlt for me. If i complete a game in a few days i am happy, nowadays that it is a criticism for most games so the devs bloat them to avoid the loudmouth majority :/
@Xapheion101
Жыл бұрын
@@turbo8628 for me it has a different effect, I play through following the story and stuff then when I feel like it's close to the end I stop playing because I don't want to miss anything important but I CBA to go though the hours of side quest slog.
Just found your channel and what an amazing introduction!! I love your content keep it up please 🙏
i love your content so much. thank you so much for all the videos.
The ring system reminded me about Summoner 1 and 2 from Voliton also - final boss turning into David Bowie was quite a twist
@jakekneega7400
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, someone else who played Summoner? Represent!
@james-michaelrobson287
Жыл бұрын
My first, probably 3 play throughs, I didn't even know there was the secret side dungeon. Such a game changer. And summoner 1 I love and prefer to 2, but they're both solid games.
@jackburton1455
Жыл бұрын
Summoner 1 and 2. Ahh good times
@anglexe555
Жыл бұрын
Wow, fuckin' Summoner. I played and beat that when I was in prison (we could have ps2s). I remember thinking it was janky af at first, but it definitely grew on me.
@bluevenom50
Жыл бұрын
Summoner 1 and 2 were god damn great. 1 has probably aged real bad but still amazing experience
Hope you'll take a look at Dark Cloud at some point. It was my first brush with Town building/RPG, but it was a slog to get past the first village so I never really got far.
@ZagorTeNayebo
Жыл бұрын
It's a game with so much potential that turns into a big old slog, I both love it and hate it
@ScumSookar
Жыл бұрын
The only correct way to play Dark Cloud is with the broken dagger glitch. That game is way too boring without it.
@dragoneye6229
Жыл бұрын
I only played the second game and that one was kind of slow. I heard someone say the first one was even slower and I just never got around to trying it.
@jesfest
Жыл бұрын
I never thought it was a slog until one of the final dungeons. The one where you're going back in time. They had character locked floors and I just didn't upgrade some of em. Really oughta finish it... On the flip side, I couldn't stand 2. Don't even think I got to the mech. Enjoyed rogue galaxy though and became a fan of level 5 ever since.
@Slutlyfe
Ай бұрын
It's good to see someone else bring that up :3 the music in this were major dark cloud vibes. You should go back and play it, it's one of my favorites
This is probably my favourite video on all of youtube. Thanks, Josh.
I forgot this game was even a thing. My PS2 game case was full of folded up A4 paper of my hand drawn maps and ring crating notes, good times!
New microphone? His voice has a bit more timbre than usual, has a kind of comfy PBS feel to it.
@clemenscohn7371
Жыл бұрын
It's to bassy.
@Big_Dai
Жыл бұрын
@@clemenscohn7371 It's okay.
@demetter7936
Жыл бұрын
@@clemenscohn7371 You're telling me you don't love Josh's sexy manly voice vibrating your whole body?
@cataclystp
Жыл бұрын
@@clemenscohn7371 you need to check your bass EQ. his voice looks fine on a spectrum analyser
@clemenscohn7371
Жыл бұрын
@@cataclystp Enlighten me why I need to check something when I haven't changed anything.
Man with Eternal Ring knocked out, if Josh does Evergrace after this he'll complete my list of "Games i played alot as a Tween and never understood how to play or complete".
@33link333
Жыл бұрын
Evergrace is another Fromsoft game as well.
I love watching games I never played and games I played alike. You make it wonderfully entertaining. When you said this could have been enjoyable, it made me want some kind of remake 😂
Okay, I can't be the only one who thought this. I'm only a minute and a half in and everything about this video; your accent, cadence of speech, style of video, even the TITLE, all remind me of Totalbiscuit and his "WTF is...?" video series. Keep up the good work!
the starter basecamp village coming under attack is a moderate twist. in some classic dungeon crawlers like angband or castle of the winds the shop village at the surface was usually inviolable
@egoalter1276
Жыл бұрын
I was under the impression angband was a roguelike.
@truemisto
Жыл бұрын
@@egoalter1276 it is, but its still part of rpg mechanics design lineage.
@egoalter1276
Жыл бұрын
@@truemisto Fair enough, but what I meant is by its nature as a roguelike it barely even ha sa story.
@Merido
Жыл бұрын
@@egoalter1276 Which might be true, but that is unrelated to the point of the starter village being attacked.
I absolutely love games of this style. First person dungeon crawlers. King's Field, Shadow Tower, Eternal Ring... I just finished playing Lunacid (which is in early access) and have an eye out for Monomyth which is also in development. I don't know of anything else out there outside the titles I just mentioned... If only this genre could have a renaissance :(
@Argonisgema
Жыл бұрын
wishlisted Monomyth and bought Lunacid. Thanks for the names, will try these out.
@vaan_
Жыл бұрын
@@Argonisgema Let me know what you think After watching this video I went on the wiki and found out I missed an entire area so I'm going back in lol
@Trenell83
Жыл бұрын
If you like making a map and building your party and don't mind anime looking there's the Etrian Odyssey games.
@mistersomaru
Жыл бұрын
Give Devil's Spire a try. It's a roguelike procgen first person dungeon crawler.
@Uradamus
Жыл бұрын
There was also Arx Fatalis, really fun game that was slightly let down by a half baked gesture based magic casting system.
Fantastic episode. Its great to see games I never knew about.
Love all the little parallels with their later games. The two red swordsmen being harder than some bosses is giving me flashbacks to the archer knights in Anor Londo
I really liked the ending. Unlike most fromsoft stuff where it's just kind of bleak, this one was bittersweet, and it felt more compelling than if it had just been a happy ending
@BloodyArchangelus
Жыл бұрын
Most ARC games have good.. ending. Most Ds games have good ending in therms of your concept. Even Ds serie was ended on bittersweet note. Painter got her materials to finish painting. ES is not complited still, coz Addon.
I didn't expect to fall in love with the OST and writing of this game but dang your review makes me want to play this game!! Even with all the antiquated "quirks" I really got absorbed in the cutscenes you put in this video...even the voice acting feels so nostalgic and special, like Oblivion voice acting but more serious. The score is so epic and grand and really reminds me of Twilight Princess.
I just found your channel and i had to subscribe ! Keep it up man ! Love your contents ! 😄
I remember this game in vaguebfoggy memories from my child hood. Oh, this is like going back to a place you didn’t even remember you missed. Thank you.
You should do one on the PS2 game Dark Cloud. One of my childhood favorites that seems to be almost forgotten and would love to see your take on it!
@SandwichGlitch
Жыл бұрын
Ain't that on ps4 too?
@zeroattentiongaming820
Жыл бұрын
@@SandwichGlitch Both it and the sequel are indeed on Ps4, among the very few games in the Ps2 classics category before the Plus update when they started adding more
@SandwichGlitch
Жыл бұрын
@@zeroattentiongaming820 stilk asking Sony where Dino Crisis 2 is at...
40:50 Attacking the source of an enemy instead of the actual enemy is present in the Ringed City DLC for Dark Souls 3. In the Dreg Heap area the angels can be instantly killed if you go for the weird screaming slug people tied to each one.
@VentrexTheXVth
2 ай бұрын
There's also the spirit callers in Bloodborne and Elden Ring
Can't wait to see your next vid!, This one was really good!
This is so strange, I was at CEX today and saw a copy of this on the shelf. Had never heard of it so had a look and saw it was FromSoft and considered picking it up before leaving it be, then you end up putting this out a few hours later!
@gabbagoo9774
Жыл бұрын
If it's $25 USD (Or equivalent) it's worth picking up if it's CIB ($15 without the manual though)
@hemming87
Жыл бұрын
@@gabbagoo9774 Really? It was £3.00 CIB, might have to get back there quick!
@gabbagoo9774
Жыл бұрын
@@hemming87 If you can, I'd suggest it! It's not blowing up in price like most of the other FROMSoft games, probably because it's not super good. But if you're trying to collect FROMSoft games similar to Dark Souls (Like I am) it's a boon!
Oh. My. Gooood! Finally someone I know talking about Eternal Ring without me having to specifically look for it. I love this game so much! Sure it has a lot of issues, but it is such a neat package.
The entire premise of this game and its story are so cool. It feels very very inspired from the twilight zone “it’s a good life” one of my favorite episodes but it could just be a coincidence.
The music in Eternal Ring is really good and honestly one of the best things about it
Wow, I've had vague memories of having played this game rattling around in my head for the last 15 odd years, the stab and the gems and the not knowing where the hell I was going the only things I remembered for certain. Thank you so much for letting me lay this game to rest in my head, and for playing it to completion so I don't have to. Keep up the good work sir!
Wow. So huge coincidence, but while watching the video just went "This is...'DEATH'." And then it froze... with that horrifyingly creepy stare just filling the screen. It was almost like Solus was exerting his power.
The nostalgia-relief laughter that emerged from deep within my abdomen when Josh said the word “angelfire” scared and surprised even me 😆😰🫠
I've been bingeing Josh's videos and I love seeing his Patreon list getting longer and smaller with every video. 😅💜
I can’t believe josh is already doing a “was it good” on Elden ring! I feel like it just came out a year ago haha how time flys
Wait a second.. if you can boost your stats to become invulnerable, does that mean you can drop down ledges and survive water? Also, one NPC lived.. that one guy who wanted you to visit his mother's grave. Did you?
@Big_Dai
Жыл бұрын
Probably not. Damage is not the same as fall damage in most everything FS makes
@procow2274
Жыл бұрын
Mmo players say dont stand in the fire they have no idea....
@Uradamus
Жыл бұрын
There was also the guy on the boat that drops you off at the start. He probably survived.
@taronzgaming7739
Жыл бұрын
@@Uradamus Nah, Kraken definitely got him off camera...
@gabbagoo9774
Жыл бұрын
@@taronzgaming7739 Kraken got him ON camera
I am so frigging happy to see someone talking about this game!
i still have this game and was thinking about it and how no one talks about it.. GREAT VIDEO... I never got out of the first cave with water, i still remember vividly. game is in my garage somewhere lol
I literally watch this channel just for the "Was it good series" well done! Also that ending line from the boss is on another level of disturbing lol
Watching you play obscure games I never played as a kid and having you complete the story knowing I'll probably never have time or get the chance to do it myself. Your doing a great service ;)