Was I Too Harsh? (Sonic Frontiers Responses & Corrections)

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This is a companion piece to my other Sonic Frontiers video to address some of the mistakes and clear up some misconceptions.
The original Frontiers video is here:
• A Better Late Than Nev...
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All songs used are from the Sonic Frontiers soundtrack. In order of appearance...
Quest: SOS Backup
Cyber Space 1-6 Go Back 2 Your Roots
Cyber Space 4-4 Wishes in the Wind
Cyber Space 3-5 BMB
Cyber Space 3-2 Go Slap
Cyber Space 2-5 Déjà vu
Cyber Space 1-5 Dropaholic
Fishing Vibes
Cyber Space 2-4 Hype Street
Cyber Space 1-1 Database
Cyber Space 3-4 Constructure
Cyber Space 3-6 Enjoy this World
Cyber Space 4-7 Rewind to go ahead
Cyber Space 2-6 Transparent Highway
00:00 - Intro
02:06 - Why Do That Video Now?
17:28 - Was I Too Harsh?
26:14 - Story NPC Quest Markers
28:02 - Sonic Adventure Pinball?
29:11 - Sonic Game Delays Correction
32:11 - Open Zone Terminology Correction
33:30 - Release Date Correction
34:25 - Shooting Game Correction
35:46 - Quick Cyloop Correction
#sonicthehedgehog #sonicfrontiers #response

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  • @rexthesheep
    @rexthesheep10 ай бұрын

    How many ears does Sonic have? Three. A left ear, a right ear, and a Sonic Frontier.

  • @auralunaprettycure

    @auralunaprettycure

    10 ай бұрын

    That’s it you win the internet

  • @jotarokujoandstarplatinum1280

    @jotarokujoandstarplatinum1280

    10 ай бұрын

    Booooo

  • @shay_3859

    @shay_3859

    10 ай бұрын

    I don't understand, could you please explain it?

  • @jotarokujoandstarplatinum1280

    @jotarokujoandstarplatinum1280

    10 ай бұрын

    @@shay_3859 front-ear

  • @shay_3859

    @shay_3859

    10 ай бұрын

    @@jotarokujoandstarplatinum1280 Oh...

  • @RadicalSoda
    @RadicalSoda10 ай бұрын

    Nah, you weren't too harsh, just honest. The game can be fun, but holey moley does it have problems. Hold games to the standard you want to see from them. If we didn't want good Sonic games, we wouldn't criticize them.

  • @ALegendaryBlueHedge

    @ALegendaryBlueHedge

    10 ай бұрын

    Hey look, it's funny Grand Metropolis man

  • @Mr.IDK07

    @Mr.IDK07

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi RadicalSoda! big fan of your content

  • @benjaminaleman4003

    @benjaminaleman4003

    10 ай бұрын

    Is that Radical soda from Radical soda? I thought you were a edited intro with living in the city in the background😮

  • @dantemitsoyu977

    @dantemitsoyu977

    10 ай бұрын

    It’s the goat

  • @gammagantle
    @gammagantle10 ай бұрын

    This game came out the same year as Freedom Planet 2 and Spark 3. We have options and shouldn’t be shunned for a dismissing a single sonic game…

  • @naniyotaka

    @naniyotaka

    10 ай бұрын

    I wish Spark 3 would come to PS4… Really wanna play that one but I don’t have a PC.

  • @dreamsdeep1076

    @dreamsdeep1076

    10 ай бұрын

    @@naniyotakaspark 2 is on Xbox for some reason

  • @SNESJerry
    @SNESJerry10 ай бұрын

    You weren't "harsh" you simply showed brutally honest thoughts. If Sonic fans are trying to make you their new villain for genuine critique then do NOT be afraid or ashamed to call them out over on social media at all! Bad behavior needs to stop being encouraged and allowed as "criticism".

  • @Nel_Annette
    @Nel_Annette10 ай бұрын

    Really don't think you were "too harsh". People are taking their love of this game too personally.

  • @sliceninja4546

    @sliceninja4546

    10 ай бұрын

    As most fans would do. And its honestly sad that ppl cannot express their thoughts and opinions.

  • @dreamsdeep1076

    @dreamsdeep1076

    10 ай бұрын

    @@sliceninja4546not when you badmouth Sonic fans for liking the game

  • @SNESJerry

    @SNESJerry

    10 ай бұрын

    since when did he badmouth sonic fans for liking frontiers@@dreamsdeep1076

  • @sliceninja4546

    @sliceninja4546

    10 ай бұрын

    @@dreamsdeep1076 and so what if someone does. You really shouldn't take someones badmouth opinion so personally that you are willing to bash on them. You will be no better than them.

  • @vinpie
    @vinpie10 ай бұрын

    “i am ONE of you” gave me a chuckle, i love that

  • @xScruffyDaSasquatchx
    @xScruffyDaSasquatchx10 ай бұрын

    I disagreed with quite a few things you said but that shouldn't stop you from voicing your own opinion. Games should be held to a standard and I want them to do better next entry

  • @BlazeHedgehog
    @BlazeHedgehog10 ай бұрын

    Incidentally, I'm leaving this comment before the video goes up, but in this video I claim that I might have voted for Sonic Frontiers in the Game Awards poll thingy. I just checked. I did not! Because I made a specific point to tweet about it on the day that... well, you'll see.

  • @TheWaterMiners
    @TheWaterMiners10 ай бұрын

    Someone else has probably pointed this out already, but Sonic Mania was actually delayed twice. The first delay was from spring to summer of 2017, and the second one was delaying the PC version by 2 weeks to add DRM.

  • @ReverofEnola

    @ReverofEnola

    10 ай бұрын

    ^I was just going to comment this lol. Because I remember the very FIRST trailer saying it was coming in Spring 2017 but it later came out in August 2017. And I also remember being mad for pre-ordering the PC version & it getting delayed by two weeks.

  • @polocatfan

    @polocatfan

    11 күн бұрын

    then Sega threw the mania devs under the bus and Stealth had to defend himself and the other devs from hate which resulted in Stealth being blacklisted from the industry for a while 🙄. then they decide to rehire them for origins just to literally take their work and intentionally ruin it to make Stealth and the rest of the team look bad out of spite. god Sega is a really shitty company.

  • @telekinesticman
    @telekinesticman10 ай бұрын

    Dude, that "not all men" comparison is ABSOLUTELY spot-on, I've thought the exact same way in the past when Sonic fans get mad about something. When they *choose* to get mad about statements like "Sonic fans are being annoying", then they are revealing their own insecurities by identifying with such a statement. Obviously it wasn't about them if they weren't being annoying, yet they decide to identify with it anyway. Why would they do that if they were completely innocent? Just nuts. I showed that Imran stuff in my video as well.

  • @Terminal_Apotos

    @Terminal_Apotos

    10 ай бұрын

    Hey, just wanted to say I loved your Critique on Sonic Frontiers. It pointed out all my Problems I had of the game in a way I could never do myself.

  • @WaddleDee105

    @WaddleDee105

    10 ай бұрын

    Pretty sure I said I loved your vid when it first came out but just in case I didn't, your Frontiers critique video is excellent!

  • @kaosagamerreal

    @kaosagamerreal

    10 ай бұрын

    can you blame sonic fans for being insecure when we're constantly bullied

  • @WaddleDee105

    @WaddleDee105

    10 ай бұрын

    @@kaosagamerreal There's a difference between being insecure and harassing others for sharing harmless opinions.

  • @nolol5565

    @nolol5565

    10 ай бұрын

    @@WaddleDee105 like when people get bullied and harassed for liking a video game more than someone else does?

  • @reversalmushroom
    @reversalmushroom10 ай бұрын

    You know what woulda been cool? If some of the cyberspace levels mixed and matched stuff.

  • @FloofPuppy

    @FloofPuppy

    9 ай бұрын

    That and play better

  • @DerpADuhThatsMe
    @DerpADuhThatsMe10 ай бұрын

    I don’t think you should feel bad for giving a full price title after five years of no new mainline games the proper critiquing it deserves, sugarcoating and sucking up to officials will likely only lead to further issues down to road, after all, how will the developers know what to improve or fix in future entries if nobody is pointing out the flaws and issues? It should go without saying really but, yeah, Sonic fandom. As someone who really didn’t click with most of Frontiers, I’m glad to see that more people are speaking out about how it didn’t meet some expectations and such, instead of burying those feelings out of fear for backlash from the toxic positivity and so on so forth of the fandom, as this less-favourable opinion of the game is in the small minority, of-course, the best case scenario of the game would be for it to be enjoyed by all, but for you, myself and others, that wasn’t the case, but it’s nice to know even content creators with big followings feel that there was a-lot of room for improvement with the title. Don’t be afraid to express your opinion!

  • @ash8244

    @ash8244

    10 ай бұрын

    If you didn't click this with game, why are you watching this video then? To have your shitty opinion be reciprocated by some random youtube channel? In fact I should be asking why: if hates this game so much why make almost 2 hours of content hating on a game he dislike, for clout because it's popular to hate on good video games these days? It's pathetic honestly

  • @Terminal_Apotos
    @Terminal_Apotos10 ай бұрын

    The Game was Mediocre but fans Praised it as if it was the 2nd coming of Christ. Ultimately led to NO ONE being allowed to criticize the game unless they immediately followed up with how amazing the game is anyways.

  • @bluefire9285

    @bluefire9285

    10 ай бұрын

    Frontiers is a pretty good game tho. It just has some very obvious flaws lol

  • @nerodoesart5886

    @nerodoesart5886

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@bluefire9285 I think it has more than just some. I wouldn't nessarily call it good either.

  • @ragnarockerbunny

    @ragnarockerbunny

    10 ай бұрын

    This point is hyperbolic maybe to the point of farce. You were always allowed to criticize Sonic Frontiers, but yes, it is also a somewhat beloved game and you're going to get pushback. Hell, I like the game and have a bunch of criticisms and mixed feelings. My question to you is are you engaging with good faith or are you coming in to kick down someone else's sandcastle? I don't like Sonic fans getting uber defensive at the slightest criticism but some folks aren't throwing out good faith criticisms, they're being Egoraptors.

  • @nerodoesart5886

    @nerodoesart5886

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ragnarockerbunny Who's being Egoraptors?

  • @Terminal_Apotos

    @Terminal_Apotos

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ragnarockerbunny The kind where I say Sonic Frontiers is Average and give my reasoning such as Basic, Boring, and Automated level Design, Horrible 2D Controls, Mindless Combat Due to the infinite Parry and Braindead Enemies, Lack of difficulty, generic and horribly paced Story, and Various Technical and Graphical issues, then I get dogpiled on.

  • @Enthusiasm441
    @Enthusiasm44110 ай бұрын

    You were absolutely not too harsh. Sonic fans are just especially bad at accepting criticism of their games. Every fanbase has crazies, but the fact that you even felt the need to make this video shows that there's a specific problem with Sonic fans. The sooner we accept it, the sooner we can improve this fanbase.

  • @ash8244

    @ash8244

    10 ай бұрын

    He called this game barely better than forces, that makes him an idiot. Imagine calling the best 3d sonic barely better than the trash that is forces.

  • @sliceninja4546

    @sliceninja4546

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@ash8244you are literally proving what op is saying.

  • @visionxry

    @visionxry

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ash8244”the best 3d sonic” 💀

  • @CableSpark872

    @CableSpark872

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ash8244 Hey, I'm kinda late, but I checked and I didn't hear Blaze mentioning Sonic Robo Blast 2 anywhere in the video, could you give me a timpestamp or something?

  • @bigmacemperor
    @bigmacemperor9 ай бұрын

    You weren’t harsh enough

  • @KayyVEVO
    @KayyVEVO9 ай бұрын

    You weren't too harsh at all. For a lot of people, anything that's better than what we were getting (Forces for example) is a god-send. I'm definitely not one of those people. Like you said, food tastes best when you're hungry, and a lot of Sonic fans are downright famished.

  • @edi4958
    @edi495810 ай бұрын

    I don’t think you were harsh, if people were offended by your thoughts on the game, that’s their issue. It just means they cannot hold their own opinion, without someone else’s thoughts contradicting theirs. Your video was good. Sonic Frontiers in my opinion is embarrassing, especially for a $60 game. Many of its aspects from gameplay, animation and visuals are lacking HARD. In a series with a unique art direction, when past sonic games from 20+ years ago have more visual appeal than a current modern sonic game, it becomes a very big creative issue. Sonic Team is not an indie developer, they’re a veteran team that has familiarized itself with this series for a very long time; It’s ok to ask them to do 100x better than this, especially for the price they want to be selling these games for.

  • @TheJmack90

    @TheJmack90

    10 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Sega wants to charge top dollar, they better put in top notch work…and…sucks to say, but there’s too many AAA games that are leaps and bounds better than this one

  • @Terminal_Apotos

    @Terminal_Apotos

    10 ай бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @slitchey

    @slitchey

    10 ай бұрын

    Sonic Team aren't the ones who deserve blame here. It's not fair to expect them to deliver AAA level content without AAA level resources. Sonic team doesn't decide when to release a game. Sonic team doesn't get to make their own budget. Sonic team didn't choose to charge $60 for this game. That's on sega and it's SEGAS responsibility to give sonic team the resources necessary to make a game worthy of $60.

  • @Terminal_Apotos

    @Terminal_Apotos

    10 ай бұрын

    @@slitchey Sonic Team could decide, oh i dont know, NOT to try to make a AAA game when they know they cant.

  • @slitchey

    @slitchey

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Terminal_Apotos I mean sure but we've already seen that even when making budgeted games it doesn't always work out the best. Also I don't think sonic deserves to be stuck with smaller scale games than his contemporaries and I'm glad there's still a future where we could see big budget sonic games again.

  • @CodeStew
    @CodeStew10 ай бұрын

    The funny thing about the Game Awards poll was that if Sonic fans didn't act like obnoxious sore winners, the Genshin Impact community would probably have ignored the poll. Unfortunately, Sonic Fans were being super toxic, obnoxious and all around unpleasant during the poll which was what kicked the hornets nest and acted as a rallying call for GI during the final round. Even more stupid is that if the Fandom didn't act the way they did, Frontiers could have graciously placed second. When you act like sore winners however, you better hope you come first place because it would be embarrassing if you end up losing....

  • @nolol5565

    @nolol5565

    10 ай бұрын

    love when the entire fanbase has to suffer because of 2 people that nobody will shut the fuck up about ever

  • @HedgeThatDamn

    @HedgeThatDamn

    10 ай бұрын

    Eeeh little late reply but I wouldn't say Genshin fans would've ignored the poll. Genshin fans are INCREDIBLY hungry for freebies and as a Genshin fan I've seen what happens when the playerbase doesn't get freebies (Mihoyo had such a bad Anniversary event that hardcore Genshin players started review bombing everything in the Google Play Store. How that relates to Mihoyo I have no clue but I don't question Gacha Whale Logic.) Mihoyo usually gives out some free gacha money when they win awards like this and this time was no exception.

  • @FloofPuppy
    @FloofPuppy9 ай бұрын

    Sonic fans just cannot learn to take an L.

  • @BlazeHedgehog

    @BlazeHedgehog

    9 ай бұрын

    To the point where my first reaction to reading this was actually "how dare you talk about me like that"

  • @chervanabachi5513
    @chervanabachi551310 ай бұрын

    Nah, you're entitled to your opinions and feelings.

  • @Rocket04
    @Rocket0410 ай бұрын

    Kinda upsets me how defensive the Sonic Fanbase is of this game atm. I really hope the blind praise dies down, and people really see the issues with the game.

  • @miadatenshi9903

    @miadatenshi9903

    10 ай бұрын

    There are issues, but when you go out of your way to nitpick instead of talking about the actual issues, there's a problem. It's like if I complain about Sonic being too fast in Unleashed or the Werehog having too many combos

  • @sumitgarg1603

    @sumitgarg1603

    10 ай бұрын

    Hey, I bet a lot of people will start seeing the flaws in the future anyway, look at what happened with sonic colours (my favourite sonic game) it got negative responses overtime from fans

  • @miadatenshi9903

    @miadatenshi9903

    10 ай бұрын

    @@sumitgarg1603 Because it's flawed from the start, I mean that level design was never gonna cut it

  • @sumitgarg1603

    @sumitgarg1603

    10 ай бұрын

    I was trying to say even though I enjoyed some time of the game it still was lacking polish like some games get nowadays. And I hope sega learns, improves on sonic's gameplay style (bc it's been a mess ever since sonic heroes.) and stop being in there cash cow phase.

  • @miadatenshi9903

    @miadatenshi9903

    10 ай бұрын

    @@sumitgarg1603 Oh yes, cause Frontiers isn't just receiving big free updates

  • @stanzacosmi
    @stanzacosmi10 ай бұрын

    I would say the difference that keeps mario 64 out of the open zone/level term is that mario 64 kicks you out entirely to add new stuff whereas odyssey and frontiers add stuff during gameplay when major events happen like the unlocking of challenges on kronos or the thawing of tostarena in odyssey

  • @metalsilver7718
    @metalsilver771810 ай бұрын

    You were right, I was wrong. I respect your opinion, I overall enjoyed both that video and this one. I am deeply sorry about how I reacted before and I hope that we can be on better terms now. I am sorry. Keep on running, they say. Keep up the good work.

  • @Chicken_Nugget1

    @Chicken_Nugget1

    4 ай бұрын

    What did you say to the guy?

  • @HedgeThatDamn
    @HedgeThatDamn10 ай бұрын

    17:28 - I didn't really agree with some of your initial problems with Frontiers, and some of them I did, I fully agree that Cyberspace is the worst part of Frontiers (And in huge part I blame Forces/Colour/The Sonic B-Team's game design philosophy). But I do think that Sonic Fans need to realise that Sonic isn't like a personality trait, I feel alot of Sonic Fans equate Sonic getting any sort of negativity to getting bullied and it's just kind of pathetic that they take it so seriously when somebody points out obvious flaws. It isn't a Sonic exclusive issue either, I'm seeing it alot more in the Final Fantasy XIV community but that's a different discussion. Cutting yourself because you're depressed is sad and that person clearly needed help, but blaming somebody who just said "Eh I prefer Genshin of Frontiers" for your self harm is pathetic and that person needs to be removed from the Internet and taking into specialised care. I mean ultimately I'm not a psychologist or a doctor so y'know, my opinion doesn't really matter on that haha.

  • @TrainerRad164

    @TrainerRad164

    10 ай бұрын

    Took the words right out of my mouth 100% fully agree on this 👍

  • @VTH223
    @VTH22310 ай бұрын

    Nah you're right about all of this, and I noticed a lot of the problems too. Though I do like the game, it certainly feels unfinished.

  • @slitchey
    @slitchey10 ай бұрын

    My biggest gripe with the original video was it seemed like you didnt believe this game did anything to better or improve sonic in any way. That we're effectively in the same spot we were with forces to which i absolutely cant agree. Its clear you and a lot of other people dont like this game. But you can't deny that many of the things done with this game were done purely because fans asked for it. You may not like the story but its clear it was mainly focused on fixing a decades worth of criticisms about these characters. The darker tone was chosen because of fans. All the free updates have added things that were never inteded to be in the game and were only added because of fans. The choice to stick with this formula for the future instead of doing something else clearly shows that sonic team to some extent knows what they want to do with this franchise. Even if this game isnt perfect its clear we're probably not dealing with the same sonic we were 6 years ago. While the games arent guaranteed to get better from here the fact that sonic team is taking the necessary steps to try and improve the franchise instead of just throwing stuff out to see what works is nothing but a good sign. Sonic superstars already seems to be the product of that.

  • @saturn_wolf
    @saturn_wolf10 ай бұрын

    I do really appreciate this video! I always enjoy hearing what you have to say, even if I don't necessarily agree. That said...The only part of the original video I take umbrage with is the "Have these people never made a game before?" comment. Like, criticisms towards the game itself is fair, but that in particular just felt a bit...more personal and reactionary directed towards the people behind the game rather than the game itself in a way I'm not necessarily entirely comfortable with? I'm sure that wasn't intentional, but it just kind of rubbed me in a really weird way I'm sure you didn't mean to come off this way, especially because of how you were really great and super tactful with BRB/Sonic Boom, but that as I will reiterate was the only part that kind of made me wince a little

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash646610 ай бұрын

    I just came back from your video review, and while I have my disagreements, you weren't that harsh on Frontiers. As someone who's been with the series for over 2 decades of his life, I can understand why some fans won't gel with some of the aspects of the game, and it sucks that the Sonic fandom nowadays will tend to shut down a lot of criticism because, "You're just hating because Sonic's doing good right now." It's the same thing that happened when Sonic 4 and Colors first came out, and all that shutdown of criticism ended up with them being some of the most reviled and hated games in the franchise in some circles of the fandom.

  • @aosth5
    @aosth59 ай бұрын

    I am expecting a hand-written apology addressed to the entire sonic fandom.

  • @ChaosAngelZero
    @ChaosAngelZero10 ай бұрын

    Sometimes I have trouble differentiating Sonic Forces and Sonic Frontiers, and I don't have any medical conditions or anything like that. It's just age man, I'm nearing forty. XD

  • @chernobylsvideoarchive3418

    @chernobylsvideoarchive3418

    10 ай бұрын

    They need to come up with better naming schemes.

  • @KamiJoJo
    @KamiJoJo10 ай бұрын

    It still amazes me that there's still people out there that go out to damage themselves over something that really doesn't mean a whole lot when you think about it, there's far worse cases that they should be worried right now and a Video-Game Award is where their personal takes show off, these people need treatment ASAP. There's nothing too harsh on sharing your own honest opinions and people should expect that this isn't the voice of truth, just another echoing voice surrounding their likeness and how they really feel about a product.

  • @haaxxx9

    @haaxxx9

    10 ай бұрын

    Being on the internet for majority of my life I always see this type of stuff everywhere. This is nothing new since dinosaurs roam this earth and always going to be some type a bios in any media out there. Being part on some of the more popular stuff like Pokémon, Need for speed and so much more I will have to say that there is a lot of people who simply can't even handle a single cent of criticism to their beloved franchises at all. I tried many and many times to be a reasonable and rational person that at the end of the day it's just something that is mainly for entertainment there will always be that certain person who will just go the extra length to just be overall unlikeable and obnoxious as possible because someone didn't like the same things as that said person even if that person who didn't like that said content bring up some fair and valid points that have evidence to back up their claim. And yes, I been there before and even acting one of the insane fans who always want something positive out of a product but once fair criticism is even mentioned it's basically an online warzone. This usually happens for younger folks who have too much time in their hands and with little to no judgement skills at all that they didn't developed yet. Sometimes is even people who are older than 16 years old who lacks any sort of judgement skills and always think the "Heard" mentality which is a very dangerous mindset to even have at all. And some are just outright fucking trolling and know it which is great if you don't take it by heart and maybe have a good laugh about it. If someone likes the Bubsy games then more power to 'em (Personally I think Bubsy character design is oddly cute). If someone don't like the Doom games because they are insanely brutal than that's okay too. As long if you like a certain type of thing with a (Moral) good reason that's not hurting anybody or being offensive then why should anyone get's upset by someone own choices in life that effects not even your own at all at the end of the day? You are, just you. And anyone else is not you no matter how many things that you have in common with that other person. Only person who can control your life the most is you (Unless you're in prison than that's a different story) and nobody else really. You can go off the rails and do something that is illegal or would get you into trouble but is it really worth the risk to do? I can't stop people actions at all but maybe to reason with them if it is a good ideal or not in many occasions. But since it's the internet and people are behind a screen that you don't know how they act in real life it my voice on the internet is basically nothing to the masses on here.

  • @pilloeglade5463
    @pilloeglade546310 ай бұрын

    No you weren't too harsh. At all.

  • @ALMOSTNKKD
    @ALMOSTNKKD10 ай бұрын

    Quick Cyloop fills up very quickly if you attack an enemy that's blocking you. About 3 hits and it's ready. Yeah it takes a while to fill up if you don't attack a blocking enemy but there is a way to bypass that.

  • @ToxicAtom
    @ToxicAtom10 ай бұрын

    Man, situations like this really make it hard to want to identify as a "Sonic Fan." I love these games, even the mediocre and downright bad ones, but admitting to that online conjures images of the person you mentioned in this video, and it's really disheartening.

  • @Antonio-is2cn

    @Antonio-is2cn

    6 ай бұрын

    Do you enjoy the games? Do you like the characters and the music? If you do then yes you're a Sonic fan

  • @ToxicAtom

    @ToxicAtom

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Antonio-is2cn I think you may have missed the point

  • @blahbliff9726
    @blahbliff972610 ай бұрын

    I am not 100% certain, but I am pretty sure that if you do one hit cancelled immediately into a quick cyloop against a shielded enemy, you can do the quick cyloop without meter. this also works on Strider's legs

  • @elibonham4388
    @elibonham43886 ай бұрын

    Damn what a video this world

  • @EGV88
    @EGV8810 ай бұрын

    You are trying to save the Sonic franchise from mediocrity. The fans should be grateful!

  • @josephfrye7342

    @josephfrye7342

    10 ай бұрын

    actually sonic midfrontiers is mediocrity sherlock

  • @tmyew756

    @tmyew756

    10 ай бұрын

    Bro, blazehedgehog did nothing and I don't owe him anything, why should I be grateful???

  • @3mar00ss6
    @3mar00ss610 ай бұрын

    no u weren't it's trash

  • @purpleghost2004
    @purpleghost20046 ай бұрын

    29:42 actually, sonic mania was delayed, not just on pc but on consoles too. it was just done silently and before a definitive release date was confirmed. the reveal trailer said the game would come out in spring 2017 (i heard a rumour somewhere that it was going to release in april), but it didn't come out until summer 2017 (in august)

  • @Scarola
    @Scarola10 ай бұрын

    Desde o lançamento dos filmes os fãs começaram a ser malvados com qualquer pessoa que criticasse algo da franquia e com Sonic Frontiers só ficou pior, eu mantenho a minha opinião de achar o jogo no máximo um 7.5/10, paguei preço cheio e tenho o direito de ter ficado desapontado com vários aspectos do game, 300 reais não cai do céu e eu sempre vou querer um produto de qualidade, críticas existem pra isso, novamente, o problema são os fãs e não a sua crítica. Evitei falar qualquer crítica sincera durante a época de lançamento justamente por medo de repressão, teve uma pessoa que foi doxxada e isso é algo ridículo, todo esse incidente com Sonic Frontiers me fez querer ficar um pouco mais afastado da fanbase no Twitter, sério, pessoal ficou realmente tóxico.

  • @mgz4670
    @mgz467010 ай бұрын

    No, definitely not too harsh. The "food tastes better when you're hungry and Sonic fans are starving" line said it best. Sonic fans are out of touch after all these years and cannot accept that people did not like the game or enjoyed it as much as they did. They have unfortunately become very thin-skinned over the years. Yes, you can still enjoy the game when others call it bad, but the reality still is that it is not a good game. I mean, honestly, just look at it, it is so bland and lifeless. This game is very depressing to look at, at least for me. It gives me the feeling that the developers have given up on trying to make a game as a form of art. The game reminds me of that South Park episode where the Family Guy writers, the people who write the jokes, are a group of sea creatures. They pick up balls from a big pile of them, each with a different word or pop culture reference on it, and then form a Family Guy gag based on those words. Sonic Team just picked up the balls containing the words open world, skill tree, piano music, nostalgia, beat em up, etc. and made a game out of it. You can still see there was some effort put into it, especially in the first two boss fights or so where you play as Super Sonic, but I think that was just where they put the most effort and in all the other parts they just implemented the elements and called it a day. To me at least, it suggests that they had fun or found enjoyment in making the Super Sonic boss fights. Trying something new does not automatically mean "redefined" or "breath of fresh air" or any of the other comments that people come up with. You have to put your heart into it to make something great. But yeah, when you are starving, everything tastes good...

  • @nolol5565

    @nolol5565

    10 ай бұрын

    "the reality is" suck my nuts frontiers is a good game no matter how much you try to short sell its positives

  • @TrainerRad164

    @TrainerRad164

    10 ай бұрын

    I appreciate your perspective on the game, but I respectfully disagree. The Sonic fandom's deep passion can lead to strong reactions, but there are moments when it exhibits toxic positivity. Balancing enthusiasm and constructive criticism is key. While I know that the game may not have been everyone's cup of tea, it's important to remember that taste in games is subjective. Some fans genuinely enjoyed the new elements and Open-Zone approach, even if it felt different from past Sonic games Criticism is valuable, but it's also essential to acknowledge that game development is a complex process, and not every aspect may appeal to everyone. Also saying that "the developers have given up on trying to make a game as a form of art." Is quite disrespectful and is undermining the work that they have actually accomplished. Sonic Team have various goals and creative inspirations when designing the game I mean look at the concept art they really have a lot ambition is just that Sega being Sega is not giving them the proper time and budget and while it might not have met everyone's expectations. it still holds value for some players. Like me for example. I disagree when you said they put a lot of effort only on the first two boss fights (Giganto & Wyvern), they also put alot of effort for Knight too, the only time where I say "all the other parts they just implemented the elements and called it a day" is the final act of the game, Supreme and The End. But even then is not Sonic Team being lazy is, like what I said, Sega is being Sega and not giving Sonic Team the proper time and budget. In the end, it's all about personal preference, and the diversity of opinions in the gaming community is what makes it so interesting! Of course, I respect that everyone or even you may not share the same views as I do and I'm alright with that I'm just putting more insight in your misconception.

  • @TheJmack90
    @TheJmack9010 ай бұрын

    Blaze…not only do your videos display great insight about this franchise, I think they’re vital forms of opinion these days. Not to dunk on other content creators, but I see too many people in this fandom who are blindly optimistic, who are overly vitriolic, even people who know a lot of information about Sonic, yet superficially understand the appeal. I’ve seen your work for years bro. Even before KZread was a “THING” I’d see you in forums doing the same thing you do here. You have always come off as genuine. Your opinions are yours, they’re valid, and they’re from a place of wanting to see a good game. Frontiers can be fun, but it’s FAR from being above criticism…especially as a full priced game. Simply compared to other AAA games in the space, it doesn’t compete. It’s a steer in the right direction but it has a LONG way to go. But knowing Sega and Sonic Teams tendencies (despite what they say in interviews) they’ll swing in some wild direction trying to chase some new trend and leave this idea behind.

  • @ViosVibes
    @ViosVibes10 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't beat yourself up over people labling your review as harsh. Frontiers isn't a perfect game by any means, it's really just a decent step in the right direction at the end of the day. As for your example you used to talk about people hating lootboxes, you'd be referring to the infamously shitty time sync it took to play Star Wars Battlefront 2 on launch. The game had an entire cast of legacy characters locked behind paywalls. Now, granted, you could grind that payment method for those characters. Except that people did the math and it was found out that just to unlock Darth Vader, the most memorable Star Wars villain, it'd take around 40~50 hours of grinding. And that was for a single character. It was so infamously shitty for the game to do that, that when called out by it, an EA representative or whoever commented about how the process of unlocking was supposed to be "fun and funfilling" for the player. And that comment became the most downvoted post in reddit history.

  • @DonutSwordsman
    @DonutSwordsman10 ай бұрын

    i think there is a point where if someone else is hurt because someone doesnt like something, its their problem and they need to seek therapy. No use making excuses and thinking you did anything wrong, really tired of this trend tbh. Best of luck, im looking forward to your honest takes on stuff you think isinteresting

  • @dreamsdeep1076

    @dreamsdeep1076

    10 ай бұрын

    He call Sonic fans liking anything. That’s an attack

  • @sliceninja4546

    @sliceninja4546

    10 ай бұрын

    @@dreamsdeep1076 How is that an attack. The example you are giving doesn't show proof of an "attack"

  • @soli-ethd
    @soli-ethd10 ай бұрын

    Haven't quite gotten to the whole video yet, so I'll edit this comment if some of this doesn't apply, but I will preface it either way with that I'm able to look past the flaws of Sonic Frontiers to find an incredibly fun experience for me, but different flaws affect people differently. I'd never expect everyone to feel the same way about a game as I do. I agreed with every single point of criticism in your original review and wouldn't consider it coming to the point of you being nitpicky or anything. Sonic Frontiers is, above all else, a modem Sonic game, including every possible bad point that entails. I absolutely do find myself completely skipping enemies in cyberspace levels because it feels like a punishment to attack them; I avoid armored enemies and certain minibosses in the Open Zone because they're just an absolute slog, I try my best to avoid any dash panel unless I can be confident it won't thrust me into a 2D section. But in a better game, I would enjoy all of those things. So no, you're not harsh. It is not the mark of an exceptional game to have a large chunk of it that is frustrating to play. It deserves to be criticized accordingly.

  • @DeskoDev
    @DeskoDev10 ай бұрын

    As someone who loves Frontiers, no, you weren't too harsh at all.

  • @riqopowpow

    @riqopowpow

    9 ай бұрын

    He literally questioned if the people that where working in Frontiers even made a game before Guy is an idiot

  • @MANGOM1LK
    @MANGOM1LK10 ай бұрын

    i'm one of the folks that really likes frontiers and i suppose we're just looking for different things in our sonic games. to me, i'm inclined to give a lot of the technical/gameplay stuff a pass because i'm more invested in the lore/story/music stuff. even then, sonic forces had my expectations REALLY low, so the only thing that actually failed to meet those were the cyberspace levels. i didn't mind the story being mostly a framing device and character moments. i love the soundtrack to death (though i actually quite like the forces ost too, really only lost valley is a bad song). even though cyberspace kind of sucks, the starfall islands themselves are an original locale, as basic and barebones as they are. knowing how small the dev team was and how few people were working on this game (on top of them apparently restarting development from scratch halfway through), it's frustrating, but it makes sense to me as a stopgap. i make an effort to see sonic team and sega as seperate entities. sonic team is just doing the best they can with what they have because of that, i knew i would disagree with at least some of your points. and really i don't even have a problem with most of them - i can often see where you're coming from. the issue i mostly had is i didn't really get a sense of why you disliked certain things. like, the combat, for example. i agree that it's clunky and poorly executed (though this is one thing the spindash mostly fixes! update 2 was a surprise hit with that move, it makes cyberspace way more fun too), but i don't really see why it would be a problem if well-executed, and that seems to be the point you're making. same thing with the puzzles. i don't see why they'd be boring. i find nothing wrong with the open-zone stuff and i think it was a good thing to pivot to if they only had two years left. it was fun enough that i wanted to 100% every island once i noticed there were completion percentages added in update 2 it might be that i have high jank tolerance from playing nothing but these other sonic games. i actually really like almost every mainline sonic game (including secret rings!). the only one i don't tend to replay is sonic adventure 2, since i just don't think the mech shooting plays well and i was never having enough fun in the treasure hunting to memorize the levels. also, it's very strange to hear your takes on the game awards situation since as far as i knew, it was genshin impact that had bot votes, not sonic. i guess sonic fans were also spreading misinformation on the internet on top of the harassment 😳 that's not good!

  • @BlazeHedgehog

    @BlazeHedgehog

    10 ай бұрын

    I'm sure there were Genshin users also botting. But like I said in the other video, my memory is that Sonic Frontiers suddenly had an explosion of votes at the last second, jumped into the lead, and then The Game Awards shut down all cheating and that lead disappeared.

  • @MANGOM1LK

    @MANGOM1LK

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@BlazeHedgehogi don't think i was actually watching the game awards, so that's why this would have been new to me ^^;

  • @naniyotaka

    @naniyotaka

    10 ай бұрын

    The lore and story were disappointing af… so I didn’t even bother to buy the game and the other contributing factor was how ugly it looks, not because of the realistic environment but because the floating rails and platforms. They didn’t even bother to integrate those into the terrain and aesthetic, just slapped them in… ugh, no thanks. Story wise, for sure it’s a step up from the Meta era but it’s certainly not as good as the adventure and ‘dark’ era stories were. Maybe next time they should make a game that fits the size of the team and btw SA2 was made by 11-30 people… so no excuses for small team Forces either. Btw, Sonic Frontiers had 250 developers so that’s not a small team, especially compared to SA2 lmao.

  • @naniyotaka

    @naniyotaka

    10 ай бұрын

    Sorry, can’t edit my comment but I meant 250 developers as 250 people in total vs SA2 11-30 people in total. SA2 has a better story, better world building and lore, ever stage and level theme is original, everything looks aesthetically pleasing, it has 3 playstyles + uhm car races I guess (even if Sonic/Shadow is the best), it has a pretty awesome multiplayer DLC (well back in the day there were no DLCs but the release contained it) and it even has the Chao Garden…. SA had only 120 people working on it, and even that one is a better game overall and that was their first time working with 3D… As I said, no excuses for Sonic Team and especially for Sega.

  • @WaddleDee105
    @WaddleDee10510 ай бұрын

    29:03 for the record, speedrunners beat that stage in under 10 seconds so it's not like they're going to the pinball OR sewer bits. :P

  • @drplantboss9281
    @drplantboss928110 ай бұрын

    I commented this on the original video, but I basically agree with everything you said in your original video, I just didn't feel as strongly about it as you did. I enjoy playing Sonic Frontiers, and while I think the game could stand to be substantially better, it's better than Forces or Lost World, which is the direction that I want to see the franchise going. I think people that thoughts you were being unfair to the game might also have felt like that because your video is structured with most of the praise towards the end, and as I'm sure you know, a lot of people rush to their keyboards before the video is even halfway done. As for the fact that some people felt "othered" or "targeted" by your criticisms of how the fanbase has received the game, I think they need to basically just suck it up. I don't think you were too harsh at all. My own interpretation of the game awards is that I'm annoyed that Genshin won, not because Frontiers lost, but because that game shouldn't even count because it didn't come out in 2022 and I don't think it should have been eligible (even if it got a mobile port that allowed it in). Would it have been nice if Frontiers won and got some attention? Yeah, sure. Did it deserve it? No more than Genshin, really. The fact that people were botting the polls is shameful regardless of what fandom or game - if people can't handle that being pointed out, maybe their mommies should change their diapers. I think this followup is good and will hopefully help some people understand your thoughts in the original video better. I'm looking forward to hearing your takes on upcoming releases and updates. Keep up the good work!

  • @Ninjago-News
    @Ninjago-News10 ай бұрын

    U weren't u were just behind..

  • @lioncyh
    @lioncyh10 ай бұрын

    Genuinely speaking, Your criticism was well spoken as I beat the game twice then I stopped playing base around your thoughts. Frontiers could have been a better realized game if SEGA give them more time for developers to learn and research about the series charm. It felt unfinished and the world itself like you said was messy. Not to mention the performance on multi-platform. Every good game has flaws, Frontiers was step in the right direction but it gonna take time to get the right balance what works as Sonic games.

  • @andersonsansonowski5644
    @andersonsansonowski564411 күн бұрын

    The game is mostly solid BUT UPDATE 3 WAS AMAZING: Fantastic level design, improved movement with jumping and spindashing, playable characters all fun to play a good difficulty spike, a PEAK ending and literally sonic frontiers twice better

  • @LamestLameOK
    @LamestLameOK10 ай бұрын

    Interesting.

  • @best_mate456
    @best_mate45610 ай бұрын

    Well if you love the game you love it If you don’t then you don’t We go one side and we don’t go across the board

  • @merideri
    @merideri10 ай бұрын

    i watched the entire video and if that's what's considered "harsh" these days then that's just sad. i think that while a few of the points came down to personal preference, a large majority of the original criticisms laid out were justified.

  • @josephfrye7342
    @josephfrye734210 ай бұрын

    you are too harsh but you are on the ball mate 👍

  • @turbohog
    @turbohog9 ай бұрын

    I don't think you were harsh enough

  • @aortaplatinum
    @aortaplatinum10 ай бұрын

    This is the second video I've seen this week where a psychopathic Twitter user sent shock photos to people they disagreed with. Stay the fuck away from that site, it's the most toxic place on the internet, just barely beating Reddit. But for now, get you some fuckin rest bro Jesus

  • @ThatBugBehindYou
    @ThatBugBehindYou10 ай бұрын

    Always cool to see the completely valid criticism the sonic fanbase shares with it's more critical creators. Sonic Frontiers might have a LOT of "problems," and sure, a lot of concerns that people saw from the trailers and gameplay demos ended up being "true," but think about this, if you don't like frontiers you smell bad. That's right, you stink! Yep. Take a shower, if you smell good you like Sonic Frontiers, you're also smart if you like the game, probably handsome too. Listen, don't screw this up you Hear? If Everyone says they like this game Sonic Team wilL Produce more well made games that have budget. This isn't some fun kid stuff it's Mega sErious, if tHEy find out there are pLayers like you peoPle who think this game Is Mid or somEthing They'll go back to making all games nothing but Forces, not that Sonic Forces is bad, in fact, I love Sonic Forces! I love all Sonic games, Sonic Team never misses and nothing ever goes wrong

  • @ketrub

    @ketrub

    10 ай бұрын

    are you okay?

  • @deslardesslok
    @deslardesslok9 ай бұрын

    5:39p.m. 10/26/2023

  • @sungjin008
    @sungjin00810 ай бұрын

    Sigh... Sonic fans have learned nothing. Even worse SEGA is cracking down on the AEGIS union(Of course, SEGA lost.), removes Yakuza's creator,(Lab42, QLOC were also removed. WTF?) I feel sorry for those who play other SEGA games. (Yakuza, Alex Kidd, Outrun, Daytona USA, Crazy Taxi, Virtua Fighter) SEGA has to sell or outsource IPs it doesn't use. I want to see Raw Thrills's Crazy Taxi rather than 404 GAME RE:SET's Crazy Taxi.

  • @Cosmiccakecat
    @Cosmiccakecat10 ай бұрын

    Naw, your fine

  • @TYP2K.
    @TYP2K.10 ай бұрын

    nah you weren't being harsh, this game is good but it definitely has its issues. I think even the most loyal defendant of this game can at least acknowldge that, and its not as if you were being over egotisical or nitpickey in your review like alot of the other reviews ive seen. You delivered your opinion fairly and clearly so don't worry too much.

  • @doodullz600
    @doodullz6009 ай бұрын

    i still disagree with a few points you made since i honestly am having fun with frontiers but i wouldnt say you were being awfully harsh if at all

  • @ChipChapChop
    @ChipChapChop10 ай бұрын

    Frankly, as a fellow old man who's opinions about a stupid cartoon rat tend to raise the hackles of child and man-child alike, despite having spent more time and thought on the little blue jerk than most who so viciously defend him in all his embarrassing mediocrity, I think you were actually quite tame in your video. But, anything short of breathless praise for the new Sonic game is going to be met with an angry response from people who's very identities hinge on their favorite product being shielded from all negativity and criticism. At the end of the day, it's just opinions about video games on the Internet. It's not that serious. Like what you like. Read a book. Bake a pie. It's ok.

  • @SkyBlue-gb3qx
    @SkyBlue-gb3qx10 ай бұрын

    I think the way you said the criticism was out of hand. It’s been almost a year since the game released, we’ve all mellowed out now and we know there’s issues to the game. But the way you phrased things and the whole tone of the video made the game feel like a pathetic mess. In the whole 1 hour and 10 minutes of it’s run time, you only ever criticised the game, and never even talked about the parts of the game that were universally received as good, until it was time to bring up their flaws and only their flaws. And that’s fine. It’s a review, but what you do when you criticise a game, is you give a creative solution to make it better. That’s constructive. The only “solution” you gave is “go back” “Combat is bad, go back to one hit enemies” “open zone sucks, go back to levels”. That’s destructive. It’d be one thing if you Had offered up a solution according to those ideas, like you did in your “how to fix sonic” video from 6 years ago. But no, constant bashing of the game. The part that sealed the deal for me is when you brought up comments of your previous gut check frontiers video with a lot of people expressing that they’d loved to see sonic throw hands, only to completely disrespect their opinions and insinuate that they had no idea what they were talking about by trying being up shadow the hedgehog, saying people wanted sonic characters to wield guns. Like the game or not, it’s not ok to completely shit on other peoples ideas and make them feel stupid for liking a game. Sonic has been down bad, and even the biggest sonic frontiers lovers know it has issues. It’s not the holy grail of gaming. It’s a spin dash in the right direction. As a sonic fan, you gotta learn to celebrate the sparse W we get every once and a while. I understand being harsh on games is how you get better ones, but you were literally shitting on peoples opinions! Take a chill pill. Take an optimistic view for once. I’m not saying just magically like the game, but try looking at things from a positive perspective. Constant negativity and pessimism will eventually lead to you sometime in the near future wondering why you even liked this blue hedgehog in the first place.

  • @nolol5565

    @nolol5565

    10 ай бұрын

    right? nobody on this fucking planet is calling it a 10/10 and i feel like i'm going through a joker arc when i see this garbage claim, everyone, even the most avid fuckin defenders of this game who call it peak wouldn't rate it higher than an 8 because of the cyberspace level aesthetics and final hours being lackluster in comparison to the rest of it, and to discount how the open zone differentiates itself from open worlds and how its equivalent to a botw shrine puzzle lasts you all of 15 seconds tops with no load screen even if you don't like it is just disingenuous and i would expect no better from the fat neckbeard who got popular off of pointing out the obvious about sonic 06

  • @TrainerRad164

    @TrainerRad164

    10 ай бұрын

    100% fully agree on this!

  • @Chadzilla_the_Keyblade_welder

    @Chadzilla_the_Keyblade_welder

    9 ай бұрын

    Even still, It's hard to praise Sonic games these days. Even if people like Frontiers, it doesn't really matter. It does not guarantee that Sonic's future is gonna be great. Sega is still making horrible decisions with the franchise. Sonic Colors Ultimate's rushed release, Their shady business practices with Origins and the janky nature of Frontiers. This whole "Sonic is Back!" "Sonic is in a good place!" and "Good step in the right direction" is vastly similar to what people were saying back when Sonic 4 episode 1, Colors and Generations came out back in the early 2010's. And those games didn't promise a good future for the series. Sonic Lost world, Rise of Lyric, Shattered crystal, Forces and TSR. Sonic went back to square one of being a embarrassment. I personally felt alienated by the series in the 2010's because of not liking the direction the games went. And by 2017 after Sonic Forces and the cancellation of the Archie Sonic comics, I've lost my passion for Sonic.

  • @sonicmastersword8080
    @sonicmastersword808010 ай бұрын

    I would not call the game perfect, but it does fix my primary issue with most open-world games: too big with nothing of interest excluding minor offshoots and the nucleus of civilizations. In Sonic Frontiers, the size if the world compliments the speed. Rarely did I ever find the need for fast travel, excluding when trying to access areas that were difficult to get to initially.

  • @joshuajohnson8386
    @joshuajohnson838610 ай бұрын

    I haven’t watched the video but if you don’t like the game and want sonic to be better then that’s fine be yourself okay 👍

  • @mangamask5304
    @mangamask530410 ай бұрын

    I think Sonic frontiers is a fun game I give the game a 7/10 this game is not a perfect game in any means, it has problems for sure, but in the eyes of certain Sonic fans you can't criticised the game because if you do you are a hater, this is only but one reason why I can't associate myself with the sonic community 😞

  • @RisTheGreat29
    @RisTheGreat299 ай бұрын

    Not too harsh at all. You called a mediocre game "mediocre" and that's just how it goes. Sonic Team has had plenty of opportunities to right the ship with Modern Sonic and they haven't been able to get it. It's clear as day that they wanted to use this first entry as a foundation for future games and they have a lot to learn about their execution for those future games. It's unfortunate that we have to now wait to see if they actually learn from all the good points you, and others, have made. I guess time will tell. But Frontiers is extremely far from perfect. It's far from a great game, or even good. They have a lot of work to do.

  • @thejoker194
    @thejoker19410 ай бұрын

    I’m just glad your a small KZreadr so your opinion won’t really matter

  • @BlazeHedgehog

    @BlazeHedgehog

    10 ай бұрын

    Some day, The Joker. Some day.

  • @sliceninja4546

    @sliceninja4546

    10 ай бұрын

    We live in a society

  • @relaxedhoodie7309
    @relaxedhoodie730910 ай бұрын

    Took you 17:17 to answer the question in the title of the video.

  • @BlazeHedgehog

    @BlazeHedgehog

    10 ай бұрын

    Good thing I provided a timestamped chapter select, huh?

  • @relaxedhoodie7309

    @relaxedhoodie7309

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BlazeHedgehog Yessir. 🤙🏻 listening to video while working and saw it when I went on break. Much appreciated.

  • @andersonsansonowski5644
    @andersonsansonowski564411 күн бұрын

    One thing is to say that a game objectively SUCKS and if you like it you are NOT mature and you are wrong But it is different from just saying that the game is okay but it doesn't compare to the other in YOUR OPINION and respects people who disagree and that guy has been called a monster, WHY?!

  • @ragnarockerbunny
    @ragnarockerbunny10 ай бұрын

    Welp... You know how much you hated climbing those towers, Blaze? The DLC was hell. Those were the worst towers I've ever had to climb.

  • @garrtoons4303
    @garrtoons430310 ай бұрын

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm no.

  • @sonicfoamyfan9805
    @sonicfoamyfan980510 ай бұрын

    Im making this comment before the video premieres so there might be points in the video i didnt mention or got adressed Its extremely overzealous to assume all the people who enjoy the game think the game has no flaws whatsoever or to claim the game is a failure just because it didnt live up to your lofty expectations more than likely fueld by a mix of nostalgia and fan game concepts. Now you of course you shouldnt get attacked for having a different opinon than the majority and anyone who does do that invalidates themselves on the grounds of being an asshole. Another thing, i hate this idea of "toxic positivy" thst gets brought up by the detractors of this game, like i said before anyone who would just attack you for thinking differently shouldnt be taken seriously, no matter how many lemmings they throw at you. But this "toxic positivity" thing feels like its made up to invalidate people who were genuinely hyped and happy for what this game delivers by going "i dont like this thing, so if you were smart, you wouldn't like it either." That plus the whole thing reeks of nasty cynicism I love Sonic Frontiers, even before the very first update. Its the first 3d game ive gone out of my way to beat from start to finish multiple times. But as much as i love it i can completely understand why some people wouldn't and that's okay. I'm not asking for us to all get along, but cant we all at least be a little happy that Sonic game managed to come out and not be regarded as complete trash by a majority of fans and critics for once. Take a page out of Sonic's (the character) book and just be cool about something.

  • @telekinesticman

    @telekinesticman

    10 ай бұрын

    You are choosing to get upset over someone else's opinion about a videogame. He has done nothing to personally insult or attack you for liking a Sonic game. Your very comment is a clear example of toxic positivity, as you're trying to invalidate the harassment directed towards people like Blaze, and say that we should all just stop expressing our negative opinions about this game because a lot of other people said it was okay. Why should anyone stop expressing their own thoughts just because it doesn't align with others? If you want a regurgitation of your own opinion, go make your own video.

  • @sonicfoamyfan9805

    @sonicfoamyfan9805

    10 ай бұрын

    @@telekinesticman as the comment says it was made BEFORE the video itself was premiered, also I'm not upset at Blaze or any critics of the game. All I was trying to say is that people who liked the game shouldn't get mocked or lumped in with the crazies who harass others who think otherwise. Blaze should have also done what he did in this made video and made his biases clear cause what he said was made in relation to what was happening to a friend of his and not some clear and cut sign of altruism. Plus or problem in general when it comes to reviews or essays of this nature either do to tone, delivery or just getting lost in the shuffle is when their stated opinions start mixing in objectivism

  • @telekinesticman

    @telekinesticman

    10 ай бұрын

    @@sonicfoamyfan9805 no one is presenting their opinions as fact, here. This is an incredibly common defence that people bring up when disagreeing over stupid videogame opinions. Subjectivity is implied. Even the most basic statement "Sonic Frontiers is bad" is inherently subjective. "Bad" is a qualitative word that cannot be factually defined. It's someone's opinion, clearly. There's no reason to get mad about it.

  • @sonicfoamyfan9805

    @sonicfoamyfan9805

    10 ай бұрын

    @@telekinesticman I'm not even upset, I don't know where your getting that from, I'm even saying that people genuinely upset aren't even worth giving the time of day. This is just an odd spot because I feel for the first time in a long time the opinion that a sonic game is "bad" is now a loud minority instead of the usual inverse. Also, hi? I didn't realize this was the guy who made that Sonic Platinum game pitch

  • @Terminal_Apotos

    @Terminal_Apotos

    10 ай бұрын

    The Toxic Positivity is Real, it sounds like you’re Trying to invalidate people who are attacked for not liking the Game. Which happens very often.

  • @ant1478
    @ant14789 ай бұрын

    wtf

  • @bluestar5812
    @bluestar581210 ай бұрын

    Unpopular opinion: Sonic Forces outshines Frontiers in many aspects: better sense of speed; better optimization; better art style and graphics; better UI; more creative aesthetics/level themes; all original level layouts; avatar and character customization. Even the story isn't as bad in the Japanese version. The only things Frontiers has over Forces are the soundtrack and length. Personally I think in the future Sonic Frontiers will become one of the most hated Sonic games of all time. The Sonic fanbase has the tendency of hating beloved games after a while, and loving hated games. Right now Unleashed is the misunderstood masterpiece, next in line will be Lost World, then Frontiers will be hated for switching Sonic's gameplay format. I'm tired of reused level themes and nostalgia, I want all original levels. It is one of the main reasons why I'm glad Mania 2 was never made and we got Superstars instead. I want Sonic Team to go all out and don't hold back.

  • @kaosagamerreal

    @kaosagamerreal

    10 ай бұрын

    more creative level themes?...in... forces?

  • @justinrush7463

    @justinrush7463

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@kaosagamerreal yeah. Both their level designs are the same, but forces has more than 4 environments.

  • @akdreamer6497

    @akdreamer6497

    10 ай бұрын

    You're tripping if you think Sonic Frontiers is going to be hated. The majority of the fanbase see it as imperfect but fun, and that the sequel needs to expand and better it. If the sequel does that, then great. If not, oh well. Frontiers in its own way is a lot like Adventure 1 in that regard.

  • @tactik3

    @tactik3

    10 ай бұрын

    Forces DOES have a better art style, and more creative level themes (I don’t agree with it having better ui and graphics though) BUT, Frontiers has better level design (the original levels) better ui, graphics, and overall is just more fun to play, Which I why I personally think frontiers is way better than forces.

  • @Terminal_Apotos

    @Terminal_Apotos

    10 ай бұрын

    @@kaosagamerrealYes, Sunset Heights, Luminous Forest, Mortar Canyone were all leagues more Creative than anything Frontiers offered.

  • @teknocanadian
    @teknocanadian10 ай бұрын

    i heard it was genshin doing the botting

  • @BlazeHedgehog

    @BlazeHedgehog

    10 ай бұрын

    I'm sure it was both sides but there was definitely a point in time, right before the hammer dropped, where Sonic Frontiers gained a HUGE lead over Genshin Impact.

  • @nerodoesart5886

    @nerodoesart5886

    10 ай бұрын

    Both were botting. I think Genshin won because they have a bigger playerbase than Sonic.

  • @best_mate456

    @best_mate456

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah I still think frontiers deserves the rewards still because they are finally doing to the right thing

  • @nerodoesart5886

    @nerodoesart5886

    10 ай бұрын

    @best_mate4565 Personally, I didn't think Frontiers deserved an award for players' votes since it's kinda like a pity trophy or participation award of who has the biggest following. Also, with how very unpolished that the game was and how fans reacting like it's a good game and being over the top about it to the point of harming themselves, being racist, or assaulting another fan base for no reason. Yeah, they don't deserve it. Also, the director didn't care for the award and was glad for people participating and promised to make the next game much better since Frontiers wasn't as good as it should be, which is a lot to fulfill and rework. I get Genshin shouldn't have been there since it's been around for a while, but It's also been relevant and been staying that way for a while before Frontiers even considering it way bigger than Sonic is in the world, which Sonic fans thought they were in the big leagues and tries cheat and beat a video game series with a 60-80 million playerbase globally even Sonic at least 10 million or less. I'm glad that Frontiers didn't won since fans would use the game awards like it was something special and try use it as being amazing for having a following instead of being a quality and finished product and I will never hear the end of it, so I'm fine until Sega puts out better Sonic games and being more original with their ideas instead of what Frontiers tries to be with some of it's ideas. Frontiers doesn't feel like it's doing like their doing the right thing since their pretty vague at areas and looks clueless unless they do a massive overhaul to the gameplay and better art direction.

  • @best_mate456

    @best_mate456

    10 ай бұрын

    @@nerodoesart5886 yeah but did you not know how bad are the games before frontiers, they were so bad Yes there are some unpolished work but they taken it so seriously this time. We as sonic fans want to show that we love the game so much so the team understands it Plus genshin is crap anyways

  • @joopvanhedel1372
    @joopvanhedel137210 ай бұрын

    28

  • @blinkyy4594
    @blinkyy459410 ай бұрын

    Im sorry but this video claims to be a response to the criticism and correcting his errors but spends more than half the video coping with oh guys im no perfect human just to basically do a youtuber apology level of no speak. You made a video that was poorly constructed in when trying to critiqe a game just accept you got ratioed

  • @BlazeHedgehog

    @BlazeHedgehog

    10 ай бұрын

    you're not my dad

  • @Alaqeam

    @Alaqeam

    10 ай бұрын

    “Just accept you got ratioed” Mans will say this but not accept a damn job application

  • @blinkyy4594

    @blinkyy4594

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@Alaqeamman's will meat ride while being broke working minimum wage job bro I'm stacking paper stfu

  • @FranklySean
    @FranklySean10 ай бұрын

    Lol, teachers are not doctors, that's like taking medical advice from a babysitter.

  • @BlazeHedgehog

    @BlazeHedgehog

    10 ай бұрын

    I mean, for most medical conditions, yeah. But in this specific instance I feel like they would have had a lot of exposure and experience.

  • @FranklySean

    @FranklySean

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BlazeHedgehog the thing is, teachers mostly want you to sit down and shut up. And drugs work great for that, so teachers like them. But it doesn't mean it's the right choice for the child. So I think teachers make bad decisions on this subject.

  • @BlazeHedgehog

    @BlazeHedgehog

    10 ай бұрын

    @@FranklySean But as established I was already an extremely quiet child. :p

  • @hoonencode2430
    @hoonencode243010 ай бұрын

    Brother👋

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