One of the reason why Kim Jong-un won't give up his nuke.

@1moneyking

3 жыл бұрын

@mohammed aidara hahah yes

@margarethawinarto3931

3 жыл бұрын

China, Russia, Iran and North Korea should enhance their nuclear capabilities. This is the best strategy to eliminate the possibilities of being destroyed by the US like it did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

@edwardjones6403

3 жыл бұрын

mohammed aidara we wouldn’t just attack them anyway because in probably less than one day North Korea could completely take out the South Korean capital who is one of our greatest allies.

@cristomoreno5616

3 жыл бұрын

Anonymous America has war crimes if you didn’t know

@Kurumithespiritnightmare

3 жыл бұрын

@@margarethawinarto3931 yea ikr why get rid of them when having them saves lives

Just like the Japanese never apologize for the Nanjing Massacre.

@shawnwarrynn8609

9 күн бұрын

Exactly, but what worse is that the Japanese still want to fight and refused to surrender even after the Second Atomic Bomb and were still committed to winning or total annihilation.

"A brilliant man would find a way not to fight a war." - Isoroku Yamamoto.

@ligondesenuts769

Жыл бұрын

Isoroku Yamamoto? An Imperial Japanese pilot? Be for real now bro

@fggonzalez5503

11 ай бұрын

@@ligondesenuts769 Like he had a choice back then genius

@LegendarySkypenis

10 ай бұрын

​@fggonzalez5503 so he wasn't a brilliant man.

@ligondesenuts769

10 ай бұрын

@@fggonzalez5503 So he’s contradicting his own quote

@XiaDaoMan

10 ай бұрын

@@ligondesenuts769 Nah, he just admitting that he ain't brilliant.

" They say truth is the first casualty of war but who defines what is true. " - Captain John Price

@mohammedaliyu1437

Жыл бұрын

True

@Gilvids

Жыл бұрын

God

@notsoeloquent

Жыл бұрын

@@Gilvids god is dead

@Jenny_Myers

Жыл бұрын

Cod fanboy had to ruin this. Take your games out of this.

@No-cc1fq

Жыл бұрын

@@Jenny_Myers yes they talking like they understand it. But they just copy paste it to look cool and like

People must have thought that the world was ending.

@XpurlX

2 жыл бұрын

For them all it definitely did.

@greeneast

2 жыл бұрын

So many things happening. WW2 was insane, world really was changing so fast.

@ril-eq3vp

2 жыл бұрын

For the people under the bomb the world did end

@jordanthomas4379

Жыл бұрын

The Chinese and Koreans had been thinking that since 1932

@jordanthomas4379

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeltaylor2121 actually both cities were major hubs of manufacturing and construction to support the Japanese war effort, the two cities were almost completely unscathed by the war until August 1945, destroying both cities had an astounding crippling impact on the abilities of the Japanese to continue the war, and certainly played a big role in their capitulation. They were both recognised as important military targets, though the civilian death toll is definitely a very upsetting repercussion of the bombings.

Purposely killing civilians is always a war crime.

@lucianoarebalo41

3 жыл бұрын

the japanese they wanted to take over the phillipines and unprovokedly attacked US bases. The bombs were a retaliation and a neccesary evil, many more lives would have been lost if that hadnt happened. Lets hope nukes are never used again

@rolandgonzales3343

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucianoarebalo41 if nukes save lives then why should we not use them?

@jamesyount2423

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucianoarebalo41 You mean the Japanese attacked military targets? Yes, that happens in war. And the US had been helping the Allies before the US officially entered the war so it wasn't unprovoked. What the US did as a response are war crimes.

@Geenoi

3 жыл бұрын

@@rolandgonzales3343 We don't use them now because everybody has them, and they are much bigger and their use is harder to justify, the little boy was weak and stopped the deaths of millions, one nuke NOW would result in a regional/global holocaust tsar bomba for example.

@Geenoi

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesyount2423 United States only intervention in the Pacific for Japan was freezing their American assets and embargoes Japan cared less about what was going on in Europe Japan thought the USA was going to interfere with them directly so tried to destroy the American navy at a suprise attack, what the United States did while being proactive to a regard isn't enough to warrant a suprise bombing without a formal declaration of war.

My Grandfather went to Hiroshima 2 days after the bomb was dropped because of his position in the Army and by doing so he was exposed to toxic level of radiation! My grandfather became what is known as The Atomic Veterans aka "Forgotten Veterans" The military has long denied my grandfather's existence and by 1989 he was DEAD! Today, The U.S Miltary is giving "HUSH MONEY" but only to the remaining living Atomic Veterans;however, most of The Atomic Veterans died in the Mid 70s through the Mid 90s! And considering how many health problems my grandfather had and his descentant $90,000 isn't good enough!!

@maltheri9833

Жыл бұрын

Never even told the troops about the radioactivity anywhere. Never told the Japanese about it as a ton of people went to rebuild and then also got radiation poisoning. Terrible

@charliesmith_

Жыл бұрын

America lied to America about all their deliberate Radiation of Soldiers _everywhere._ Including soldiers sent to the radiation polluted Marshall Islands and the islanders. In 1972 unprotected soldiers were made to build a plutonium landfill, 18'' concreted over. Dome's now cracking up (just like the concrete of the 1986 Chernobil sarcophagus was cracking up in 2016) The 'plutonium filled dome on Runit Island contains all the chunks of plutonium from the failed *'Castle Bravo'* nuclear test *gone very wrong* which was 1000 times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb. The sealevel's rising at the Marshall Islands - the plutonium will end up in the sea. Most of the soldiers handling the plutonium under orders were not deemed Atomic Forces, have radiation related diseases, and are not covered by health insurance by the military. It's bloody awful what happened to your dad back then. It's revolting that it's been a Govt habit to treat their own soldiers that way from the 40's and 70's all the way to the Gulf War. 😞

@blake9358

Жыл бұрын

Conventional bombs actually were more devastating when dropped on Dresden by the Royal Airforce and United States Airforce, it was a calculated measure against a civilian population

@Freesoler01

Жыл бұрын

@@blake9358 Dresden was bombed with fire bombs, not conventional bombs.

@francisbulatag2206

Жыл бұрын

Yeah just like Japan, up to this day, still pushes their atrocities under the rug.

WWII was unique in that it was and remains the largest "total" war ever fought. Civilians were viewed as legitimate targets. No nation or individual was prosecuted for bombardment of civilian towns or cities.

@iitzfizz

4 ай бұрын

Major cities and population centres still remain targets today

@user-bo5mf1xu6q

4 ай бұрын

What? Plenty of guys got tried for war crimes after WWII. A lot of the Japanese got away though due to cooperating with the US via providing data from human experiments

@qwertyuiopasdfghjk11111

4 ай бұрын

No, Certain important Japanese figures were executed as war criminals after the war. Why aren't people in the US being judged?

@inanimatt

Ай бұрын

World War 2 was the first war in which civilian deaths were far more than combat deaths. It was also a war in which the side that killed the most people (Axis) was defeated by the side that produced the most stuff (Allies).

@garymathena2125

Ай бұрын

Many of these civilians were war workers producing bombs, guns and other implements of war.

"History is written by the victors" - General Shepperd

@NarutoOSTRemix

3 жыл бұрын

"History is filled with liars" - Captain Price

@swastikrocker123

3 жыл бұрын

@@NarutoOSTRemix True that !

@panagiotisnikiforou1323

3 жыл бұрын

The millions of dead disagree

@swastikrocker123

3 жыл бұрын

@Christopher Strimbu chill bro it was just a statement from a frigging video game. it shows how easy it is to trigger someone these days

@preachinhell2580

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

No one win in war Both sides losses Fact is that one losses more than other

@timha.

2 жыл бұрын

Really

@timha.

2 жыл бұрын

Are you sure

@timha.

2 жыл бұрын

Im with you with no one wins a war but one loses more than another im not sure about that

@spduff11

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. They're called the losers. You know, the gys who surrendered on the deck of The U.S.S. Missouri in Tokyo Bay? -Tom

@Conn30Mtenor

2 жыл бұрын

Nonsense. If the Nazis and the Japanese militarists had won it would have been the end of world civilization at worst, a dystopian nightmare at best.

Definetly a war crime

@Ian-zf5ss

9 ай бұрын

Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Chinese, Korean, Taiwanese, Filipinos, and more that suffered at the hands of Japan and the hundreds of thousands more than would have suffered had the war went on for years after 1945(The war would have went way longer had it not been for the nukes). Not to mention the hundreds of American soldiers AND Japanese soldiers + civilians that would have died had it not been for the nukes. The idiotic take of Westerns who have the privilege of living in the 21st century who don't realize the true gravity of the situation astounds me.

@wyattreasor6843

3 ай бұрын

Japan worse

@Zulu2020

2 ай бұрын

I suppose your father wasn’t over there or brother or uncle or any other man in your family

@Justyouraveragecat

Ай бұрын

@@Zulu2020 bro did you even know what Japan did to Korea and China 💀💀💀

It isn’t a matter of holding an individual nation responsible, but the bigger picture of the world’s elite class and political leaders clashing while leaving the every day civilian, just trying to get by day to day, to suffer and lose their own and their children’s lives

@vtheman1850

Жыл бұрын

While I agree with you in principle, that ship has long since sailed. If we are establishing courts to Judge Bosnia/Serbia/Croatia etc, then we judge the US in those same courts. It's not like the dictators are the ones paying reparations anyway. It's billions of $ coming out of the working classes of a country recovering from war.

@jaysun3320

Жыл бұрын

@@vtheman1850the Japanese would have to pay far greater reparations than any damage that any country has done to it ^^.

every countries engauged in war crimes in ww2.

@Nick-1992-SRB

3 жыл бұрын

Of course everyone wanted to make as much damage as possible to one another that's the point of War.

@markaron9356

2 ай бұрын

but only one side got punished

@CoryRayGordonMusic

2 ай бұрын

​@markaron9356 if the other side had won, we can look at games like wolfenstein to give a glimpse of what would have happened had things turned out differently.

@markaron9356

2 ай бұрын

@@CoryRayGordonMusic that's not in the conversation, I said that only one side was punished for their war crimes

@lugiasimply6054

2 ай бұрын

@@markaron9356are you so sure? Japan got off pretty easy for their extreme war crimes.

The US isn't the only country that publishes history books. What do the other countries have to say about it?

@ts214121

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not trying to judge. I'm just curious what the other countries have to say about it.

@1moneyking

3 жыл бұрын

USA should not apologized

@1moneyking

3 жыл бұрын

@geo science I have my reasons 🤐

@MR.Mehran61

3 жыл бұрын

@geo science 😁😁😁😁

@genericname5909

3 жыл бұрын

@geo science why should we? Japan never apologised for theyre war crimes

If they drop it on military buildings and equipment i would approve it but they didn’t

@allanjones1680

2 жыл бұрын

you dont drop it on buildings and equipment it just doesnt work that way 1 bomb=1 whole city no matter which city has the most military the whole city and everyone in it burns....

@senorquack5182

2 жыл бұрын

The bomb btw doesnt hit the ground when it explodes, it explodes mid air, also Hiroshima and Nagisaki were cities that had military building and stuff.

@______-795

2 жыл бұрын

@@senorquack5182 don’t forget there were schools,hospitals religious places and stuff

@allanjones1680

2 жыл бұрын

@@______-795 Dont forget it was war....any military that places it central command among civilians places that population at risk....using people as human shields gets people killed...Hiroshima was also very important from a military perspective since it was home to the 2nd Army Headquarters, which were responsible for the defense of southern Japan. It was an important center of storage, communications, and assembly of soldiers.

@Heretic-.

2 жыл бұрын

@@allanjones1680 so, you can argue everyone in Washington DC are also human shields? Whether they had military buildings or not doesn't matter, they knew if they dropped the bombs, it was going to kill many civilians and they did it anyways, that's a clear intention to kill civilians, it may not have been their primary goal, but they knew it was going to happen

Those who justify the crime here look like totalitarians. Respect each person's right to life a little.

Weird how many comments have been completely removed...one of myself, and like 5 of other people. What the hell is this?? censorhip

@Stoney-Jacksman

3 жыл бұрын

@@sergiopabon1387 True. I dont think it was about us'. My worry is that it got deleted beause of the original comment. My reply to your last reply-comment btw was this : 'foreign aid' hahaha!.. thats like robbing ten dollars and dropping back a nickel and call it 'aid'. You need to read more, research more and step out of that silly tiny paradigm bro. Start with watching 'stealing From Africa. Why Poverty?' Please check that out. And no need to hold on to your beliefs out of fear for dissonance. Just let it go, and know that what is, is... Anyway, i hope you watch that documentary to start with.. and learn from it and expand your view. Like we all need to to do, every day. peace

@drabberfrog

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've tried to comment on this video a lot of times and my comments are almost instantly removed. If you have a different opinion than them then you are not allowed to speak.

@coolestpersonever821

Ай бұрын

@@Stoney-Jacksman the comment you replied to got deleted to 😂

@tectoramia-sz1lu

21 күн бұрын

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The target was civilians and that's a war crime.

@victoriacocoz

2 жыл бұрын

And this isn't a war crime?? kzread.info/dash/bejne/iplp3LpwYcmceaw.html

@EsJam_es

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't a target for civilans. Whoever related to tje Military industry and there were the factories over there so they bomb it.

@dashong8912

2 жыл бұрын

@@victoriacocoz Of course it is. But does that make the civilian bombings any less of a war crime? Incidentally, the US never prosecuted the Unit 731 scientists. They were treated very well indeed by them.

@dashong8912

2 жыл бұрын

@@EsJam_es Unfortunately that is not true. Both bombs were aimed at civilian areas. You only need to check how many civilian casualties there are to confirm this.

@EsJam_es

2 жыл бұрын

@@dashong8912 If they didn't nucked the cities, more casualties will come out because of the Operation downfall. "In late July 1945, the War Department provided an estimate that the entire Downfall operations would cause between 1.7 to 4 million U.S. casualties, including 400-800,000 U.S. dead, and 5 to 10 million Japanese dead.7 Jan 2021"

*Yes.* But it's not considered a war crime if you are a major power and win.

@ElfieIvy

10 ай бұрын

It is still a war crime, you just refuse to call it that and BECAUSE you have enough power to do so people don't question it further

@genoob5843

10 ай бұрын

@@ElfieIvy”Muh Morals”

@mr.gigagod9736

9 ай бұрын

@@ElfieIvy Which is talked about more? The genocides in China or 2 nukings that needed to happen to end the war.

@ozymandias8523

7 ай бұрын

​@@mr.gigagod9736pretty sure the crimes on china are talked a lot in china

To determine what is right and what is wrong, it's essential to see "who did it/doing it" because the rule is, some people do wrong but it's right, some people do right but it's wrong! That's how planet Earth is running!

@mHANIF-xl3rx

10 ай бұрын

us surely the biggest evil hypocrites there.

@saturatedodin476

10 ай бұрын

Japan was not the victim by any means.

@ozymandias8523

7 ай бұрын

​@@saturatedodin476civilians were

@T_rev-ud7zb

2 ай бұрын

@@saturatedodin476china was

@Zulu2020

2 ай бұрын

What in the hell you talking about is it summer college philosophy that you’ve learned

This world is just like 😩😩😞

@ImperialZorn686

3 жыл бұрын

Cringe

@Frost-bs6xr

3 жыл бұрын

@@ImperialZorn686 yes u r

@tfl0wh0w45

2 жыл бұрын

I don't get what your saying?

@MadMiff

Жыл бұрын

@@tfl0wh0w45 He says he is sorry for 911.

Is that even a question

@juniorcadizii306

3 жыл бұрын

unfortunately for the world some "humans" still "believe" it was necessary and even have ossified "justification" for it. one of the reason the world is still in a bad place despite the evidence is because of these "humans" their "beliefs" and their propaganda.

@jimjumaa2277

3 жыл бұрын

@@juniorcadizii306 only Americans believe that , I'm from the middle east and I'm devastated for what happened in Japan.

@juniorcadizii306

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimjumaa2277 most people are devastated and have our eyes open for those "humans" and their anti humanity nuclear weapons positions and their anti humanity arguments that keep sensible informed people asking those anti humanity "humans" the same question......will you concede that what was done to our fellow humans was a war crime? we keep asking.....and we will until they concede....

@C-jam_

3 жыл бұрын

I think you really need to understand the war in the pacific to see this as a question

@sakukuratabinbohkekal-faki4248

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimjumaa2277 If you are from Korea, China or Indonesia, maybe you'll have a totally different opinion about what happened in Japan.

“Aerial bombardment for the purpose of terrorizing the civilian populations or destroying or damaging private property not of military character, or of injuring non-combatants, is prohibited”. Article XXII of the Hague Convention of 1923 I like how people just throw shit out of their mouth without actually reading international law to define if it is or not a warcrime

@waynepatterson5843

2 жыл бұрын

“Aerial bombardment for the purpose of terrorizing the civilian populations or destroying or damaging private property not of military character, or of injuring non-combatants, is prohibited”. Article XXII of the Hague Convention of 1923 I like how people just throw shit out of their mouth without actually reading international law to define if it is or not a warcrime Wayne Patterson --- Note how The Hague Draft Rules of Air Warfare of 1922-1923 were rejected and never adopted or ratifies by the member States because the rules proposed by the armchair lawyers were deemed to be too unrealistic to be implemented in an actual war. Consequently, the draft rules did not become a positive international law. Even if the draft rules had been adopted, they authorized the air bombardment of "a military objective...military forces, military works, military establishments or depots, manufacturing plants constituting important and well-known centres for the production of arms, ammunition or characterized military supplies, lines of communication or of transport which are used for military purposes." Note, the MARK I Little Boy atomic bomb was used to attack the military objective known as the Imperial Japanese Army Second General Army and Headquarters and other military objectives located within Hiroshima; and the MARK III Fat Man atomic bomb was used to attack the Mitsubishi Arsenals and many other military objectives within Nagasaki. The destruction of those military objectives did "constitute an obvious military advantage for the belligerent" and led to a prompt Japanese surrender that ended Japan's continued waging of war upon the United States and Allies as proposed by The Hague Draft Rules of Air Warfare of 1922-1923; see: Rules concerning the Control of Wireless Telegraphy in Time of War and Air Warfare. Drafted by a Commission of Jurists at the Hague, December 1922 - February 1923. Part II: Rules of Air Warfare#Chapter IV: Hostilities#Bombardment. - Art. 24. Art. 24. 1. An air bombardment is legitimate only when is directed against a military objective, i.e. an objective whereof the total or partial destruction would constitute an obvious military advantage for the belligerent; 2. Such bombardment is legitimate only when directed exclusively against the following objectives: military forces, military works, military establishments or depots, manufacturing plants constituting important and well-known centres for the production of arms, ammunition or characterized military supplies, lines of communication or of transport which are used for military purposes. 3. Any bombardment of cities, towns, villages, habitations and building which are not situated in the immediate vicinity of the operations of the land forces, is forbidden. Should the objectives specified in paragraph 2 be so situated that they could not be bombed but that an undiscriminating bombardment of the civil population would result therefrom, the aircraft must abstain from bombing; 4. In the immediate vicinity of the operations of the land forces, the bombardment of cities, towns, villages, habitations and buildings is legitimate, provided there is a reasonable presumption that the military concentration is important enough to justify the bombardment, taking into account the danger to which the civil population will thus be exposed; 5. The belligerent State is bound to pay compensation for damage caused to persons or property, in violation of the provisions of this Article, by any one of his agents or any one of its military forces.

@spduff11

2 жыл бұрын

Saving the lives of a-million-and-a-quarter men- not prohibited, allowed, accepted; and done! -Tom

@charleshixon1458

2 жыл бұрын

Strategic bombing was commonplace in WWII.

@vince8901

2 жыл бұрын

@@charleshixon1458 and all of it was a war crime, every single bomb dropped over cities.

@charleshixon1458

2 жыл бұрын

@@vince8901 War is a crime against humanity, for whatever it is worth. Although in this case the bombings weren't technically considered a war crime as there wasn't an internationally recognized treaty or anything regarding strategic bombing and it was widely carried out across all sides on all fronts of the war. Just another tragedy of human barbarity, but that is the whole thing about war, isn't it? it's not a duel.

Let’s turn the camera back on Japans atrocities

@UnidentifiedGecko

2 ай бұрын

Finally someone who knows his stuff

@username12954

2 ай бұрын

We all know that, so don't speak ill of Japan one way or the other. And the people of Hiroshima are all innocent.

@samueljohnston3931

2 ай бұрын

@@username12954flooding of china killed millions. The comfort women from Korea are still waiting for an apology. How many civilians were killed from 1900-1945 in east asia from imperial Japan?

@username12954

2 ай бұрын

@@samueljohnston3931 Japan has already apologized more than five times on that matter. This has been acknowledged by the President of South Korea as well. So, why do people only seem to know about Japan's war crimes and never mention the war crimes of South Korea and China, such as the Jeju massacre, the Bodo Yeonmaeng Sageon incident, the Tongzhou mutiny, and the Uyghur genocide?

@samueljohnston3931

2 ай бұрын

@@username12954 jeju massacre was also horrible. But maybe not as many people know about it because 30 thousand died as opposed to over 6 million with the Japanese invasions and flooding of mainland China. Thats probably why more people know about it. And Japanese still whine about comfort women memorials put up in American cities. Japan government never gave money to the victims. Germany has outlawed the swatzika but you can still see the rising sun flag waved proudly at international soccer matches. No country is innocent of war crimes. But some ignore their history.

Yes! Also what Japan did at Pearl harbor and WWⅡ was wrong too. As a Japanese , I am really sad about seeing many english comments saying that Atomic bomb was right. We don't need any apologies, But I hope more and more Americans learn the evilness of nuclear bomb, and what happened to people living in Hiroshima, and Nagasaki. Also, we Japanese should know about , what we did at Pearl Harbor and WWⅡ was not right too! We don't need war anymore.

@Beezy_Builds

3 жыл бұрын

I'm with you brother we both were wrong

@user-xq6wr5cl9q

3 жыл бұрын

LIKE MY ICE I'm just saying what we must do is to remember and know what happened to the innocent people. You're missing the point.

@ocelot8611

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the atomic bomb wasn't right, but it was necessary to bring an end to the war. Why should Japan get away with murdering millions of innocent people across Asia and not experience any retaliation. America should not apologise for dropping the atomic bomb.

@Luisidades

3 жыл бұрын

Neither was Unit 731, Nanking, Manchuria, Korea, Pearl Harbor, etc. Japanese imperialism did not just commit war crimes, they committed crimes against humanity A land invasion would have killed millions of people, it was the best decision to make at the time, Japan was not surrendering.

@Luisidades

3 жыл бұрын

Also, General McArthur gave inmunity to the imperial family, so the government responsible for those crimes is the same government that rules today in Japan, unlike today's Germany who is still apolozing for Nazi Germany...

I just noticed that they coloured Taiwan a part of China. AJ+ Taiwan is not a part of China. Taiwan is China.

@stevenrodriguez3891

3 жыл бұрын

You sound like an American zionist 🤔 looking for a crack in China's wall

@stevenrodriguez3891

3 жыл бұрын

@Canuk Kun did your white colonialists allies tell you that? 🤔 Tell me the history about Native Americans

@jonp9511

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenrodriguez3891 you sound like a commie sympathizer

@mzamroni

3 жыл бұрын

It's because of one-china policy

@NO1xANIMExFAN

3 жыл бұрын

Taiwan is an island, the government on Taiwan is called the republic of China. Different government from the communists but they are still china

Depends on the situation, prevailing at the particular point in time,and the decision maker. It's to one conscience one have to Live and answer with for all time.

@MrX-il2jt

Жыл бұрын

I know that but it was a warcrime

@matthewprovencio6020

Жыл бұрын

The nazis were already defeated, and the Japanese were already declining rapidly. The only reason it got used is because it got made and the US wanted to test their new toy.

@longestvideoever

2 ай бұрын

It was. Every other country acknowledges it as a war crime. Its only a debate between the propagandists and the truthers

_"War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over."_ - William Tecumseh Sherman

@chrisgillman1162

2 жыл бұрын

"Were going to make Georgia howl"

@daleburrell6273

2 жыл бұрын

"...war is HELL".

@Kraed3

2 жыл бұрын

And the Japanese were quite literally no better

@iansuperchamp5451

Жыл бұрын

dude u maybe u didnt know what happened at that tym the u.s. never wanted a war they were forced to go to war

@danielkokal8819

Жыл бұрын

and he was right... wars of attrition go on forever

imagine if it had happened to the US, we would never hear the end of the evil.... it's easy to see who rules the world , in my opinion it was

@michabell1713

3 жыл бұрын

Lol we never hear the end of this now

@martthesling

3 жыл бұрын

The bombs saved millions of Japanese lives.

@Brodie--lw6eb

3 жыл бұрын

Read a book jackass. Not only did the Japanese war council and the emperor ask for this it could have been a lot worse. Imagine the Allies invade the home island. Not only do millions of Japanese die (including brainwashed six year olds), the war goes on for two more years. Keep in mind the US detonated the bomb where they did to minimize loss of life.

@peanuttasty247

3 жыл бұрын

@@Brodie--lw6eb They detonated them in cities focusing on civilian casualties. By this time, they had realized that indiscriminate bombing in the hope of causing terror was actually not effective in countries with such authoritarian governments (as had been demonstrated in Germany). They knew, by this point, that it was more effective to focus on industrial and military targets. They originally stated that they would launch the bombs first on these targets, or in a demonstration before the Japanese government. While they may have stated that their goal was minimal loss of innocent life, this simply does not align with history. One of the major motivations here was the entrance of the Soviet Union in the war. Not to mention that the Japanese government themselves stated that they would surrender, if they could keep the imperial office in some form. The Japanese were not intent on winning at this point. They wanted to keep their god, their emperor, alive and safe from U.S occupation. The u.s nearly allowed this concession, but decided against it, likely because by that point the S.U would have been in the war, and would have bargaining power. The primary goal of the use of the bombs was larger than the conflict in Japan. Obviously, that doesn't mean that they didn't influence the course of the war.

@Brodie--lw6eb

3 жыл бұрын

@@peanuttasty247 I absolutely agree dropping the bombs when they did was to keep the Soviets away from the bargaining table. Had they let the war go on to the point of home island land invasion maybe the Soviets are no longer “allies”. Two different ideologies invading one country, who gets to write the new constitution? Hmmmmm

Just keep war in video games. We don't need that shit in real life.

@winchesterchua7600

3 жыл бұрын

Many video games were inspired by real wars.

Japan never apologized for even starting the war, why would the US?

@sethevans5318

2 ай бұрын

Be the better man🤷

@coolestpersonever821

Ай бұрын

@@sethevans5318 it was war Japan started it so attacking them back is fine also not a war crime because no laws that where accepted said that

@jacobjones1457

Ай бұрын

​@sethevans5318 you mean be the better man by sending massive amounts of money to help the most absolutely horrifying empire since the Mongols killed 10% of all humans immediately after the war were they committed some of the worst warcrimes in modern history back to back

@_bofu

Ай бұрын

Did your mother never teach you that an eye for an eye is bad and you should be the better person lol. So childish

@coolestpersonever821

Ай бұрын

@@_bofu it is but if nobody attacks you after your eye for an eye nothing happens,in war invading back is the least you can do because what else are you meant to do give up all your land?

Consider this: Japan had killed 20 million civilians in China alone by 1945, not including civilians in other parts of Asia and allied combat deaths. The Japanese worked POWs to death on projects like the Burma railway, beat them to death, cut their heads off and subjected them to medical experiments. It was estimated that up to 1 million casualties were expected in the invasion of Japan against a highly hostile population with up to a quarter of which drafted into the IJ army. Every island the US had captured was done so with high casualties since the Japanese almost exclusively fought to the death. You have a weapon that can destroy the enemies ability and will to fight. What do you do?

@jacobjones1457

Ай бұрын

Thank you

@shawnwarrynn8609

9 күн бұрын

Exactly, but what worse is that the Japanese still want to fight and refused to surrender even after the Second Atomic Bomb and were still committed to winning or total annihilation.

I think it’s wrong to kill anyone. That being said Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrible tragedies as well as the occupation of Nanking (were Japan killed and massacred the Chinese)Japan and the US both committed horrible crimes during WW2. Killing soldiers is one thing and killing civilians is another.

@1950RetroMan

2 жыл бұрын

LeMay leaflets Read this carefully as it may save your life or the life of a relative or friend. In the next few days, some or all of the cities named on the reverse side will be destroyed by American bombs. These cities contain military installations and workshops or factories which produce military goods. We are determined to destroy all of the tools of the military clique which they are using to prolong this useless war. But, unfortunately, bombs have no eyes. So, in accordance with America's humanitarian policies, the American Air Force, which does not wish to injure innocent people, now gives you warning to evacuate the cities named and save your lives. America is not fighting the Japanese people but is fighting the military clique which has enslaved the Japanese people. The peace which America will bring will free the people from the oppression of the military clique and mean the emergence of a new and better Japan. You can restore peace by demanding new and good leaders who will end the war. We cannot promise that only these cities will be among those attacked but some or all of them will be, so heed this warning and evacuate these cities immediately. Hiroshima leaflets (main text) TO THE JAPANESE PEOPLE: America asks that you take immediate heed of what we say on this leaflet. We are in possession of the most destructive explosive ever devised by man. A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2000 of our giant B-29s can carry on a single mission. This awful fact is one for you to ponder and we solemnly assure you it is grimly accurate. We have just begun to use this weapon against your homeland. If you still have any doubt, make inquiry as to what happened to Hiroshima when just one atomic bomb fell on that city. Before using this bomb to destroy every resource of the military by which they are prolonging this useless war, we ask that you now petition the Emperor to end the war. Our president has outlined for you the thirteen consequences of an honorable surrender. We urge that you accept these consequences and begin the work of building a new, better and peace-loving Japan. You should take steps now to cease military resistance. Otherwise, we shall resolutely employ this bomb and all our other superior weapons to promptly and forcefully end the war. EVACUATE YOUR CITIES. ATTENTION JAPANESE PEOPLE. EVACUATE YOUR CITIES. Because your military leaders have rejected the thirteen part surrender declaration, two momentous events have occurred in the last few days. The Soviet Union, because of this rejection on the part of the military has notified your Ambassador Sato that it has declared war on your nation. Thus, all powerful countries of the world are now at war with you. Also, because of your leaders' refusal to accept the surrender declaration that would enable Japan to honorably end this useless war, we have employed our atomic bomb. A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2000 of our giant B-29s could have carried on a single mission. Radio Tokyo has told you that with the first use of this weapon of total destruction, Hiroshima was virtually destroyed. Before we use this bomb again and again to destroy every resource of the military by which they are prolonging this useless war, petition the emperor now to end the war. Our president has outlined for you the thirteen consequences of an honorable surrender. We urge that you accept these consequences and begin the work of building a new, better, and peace-loving Japan. Act at once or we shall resolutely employ this bomb and all our other superior weapons to promptly and forcefully end the war. EVACUATE YOUR CITIES.

@nostro1940

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you have a smart bomb who only kills soldiers

@sociopathganyu5344

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@dienomo

2 жыл бұрын

The reasons that these crimes were committed is important. I know why the US did what they did. I don't know why the Japanese did what they did.

@captainjoshua125

Жыл бұрын

@@dienomo the us mainly wanted to scare the Russians. The Japanese military committed the nanjing massacre because they were frustrated with the unexpected amount of resistance the Chinese put up and wanted to exact revenge on the civilians for that. This is not by any means a justification but an explanation.

Was bayoneting babies a war crime?

@joevignolor4u949

3 жыл бұрын

Of course. The Japanese used to throw live babies into the air and bayonet them as they came down.

@Zulu2020

2 ай бұрын

Teachers always told me that are no stupid questions I think I failed my first stupid question

@_bofu

Ай бұрын

Be the better man, don’t go for an eye for eye. 🤦‍♂️ retribution is childish

@KalashVodka175

20 күн бұрын

@@_bofu Fair enough. I think its acceptable to criticize use of the nuke. However what has happened in these comment sections is peoples trying to justify every of Japan’s actions in the war which for me is disgusting. Why can’t we acknowledge Japanese crimes against humanity while simultaneously questioning if the nuke was necessary? I saw comments of peoples who tried to vindicate Japan as somehow innocent of everything while accusing USA of being the worst criminal in modern history for the nuke.

@WongPeter-tx7qq

14 күн бұрын

@@Zulu2020 Not a stupid question if the Jap never acknowledge the atrocities by teaching their future generations of what their country had done in WWII. For eg. history text books in Jap call the invasion of China the China Incident.

Yes absolutely a war crime, 😭

@Ian-zf5ss

9 ай бұрын

Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Chinese, Korean, Taiwanese, Filipinos, and more that suffered at the hands of Japan and the hundreds of thousands more than would have suffered had the war went on for years after 1945(The war would have went way longer had it not been for the nukes). Not to mention the hundreds of American soldiers AND Japanese soldiers + civilians that would have died had it not been for the nukes. The idiotic take of Westerns who have the privilege of living in the 21st century who don't realize the true gravity of the situation astounds me.

For the longest, I used ask myself how can we(U.S.) be so heartless? Then I learned about Nanking and unit 731 and I never felt bad about it ever again.

@Unholy_Triforce

11 ай бұрын

Poor logic. You don't feel bad for innocents because their government commited henious crimes? Those who died had nothing to do with those things

@squeaky206

11 ай бұрын

​@@Unholy_Triforce Support the government, get rekt. Japan entered WWII thinking it would be the Master of East Asia. And they carried out some of the most heinous crimes possible with the support of the populace as a whole. And now they claim we were the bad guys. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

@Unholy_Triforce

11 ай бұрын

@@squeaky206 The innocents never really had a choice. Guns were not available to citizens regularly. They were conditioned to follow thier country without question as well. Similar to a parent conditioning a child to believe a specific thing for 18 years

@squeaky206

11 ай бұрын

@@Unholy_Triforce I'm sure the Japanese thought the same thing when they threw babies onto their bayonets in cities and villages in their occupied territories, or occasionally slaughtered entire settlements. Let's be real son, the Japanese would've used the nuke on us if they had the means and the ability to deliver it. They would kill way more civillians with way less afterthought. Every civillian in war is a potential combatant or saboteur, even the younger ones.

@JustinHEMI05

10 ай бұрын

And the fact the Japan had planned to used every man, woman, and child to fend off a mainland invasion. They were insane. Still are, just suppressed now.

Doing war crimes and stating that 'it speeds up the path to peace' legalizes all atrocities of the war. I mean every country can use that as a justification. The ends doesn't justify the means.

@manimal2866

2 жыл бұрын

Well don’t attack the U.S and you won’t have to worry about getting massacred.

@mickeymouse5770

2 жыл бұрын

@@manimal2866 and murders millions of Latinos and in POW

@spduff11

2 жыл бұрын

Just remember, you could be speaking either German, Japanese, Italian; or all of them now. -Tom

@waynepatterson5843

2 жыл бұрын

@@spduff11 --- Doing war crimes and stating that 'it speeds up the path to peace' legalizes all atrocities of the war. Wayne Patterson --- The air bombardments of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were lawful acts of war which did not qualify as war crimes. So, you accusations are false accusations with no basis in the laws of war.

@manimal2866

2 жыл бұрын

@Loo well Japan should of thought about that before they decided to start a war with the United States

What the Japanese did to the city of Nanking was a war crime but when I was in the military and I was stationed over in Japan they downplay it to the point that they don't even talk about it, as a matter of fact they consider themselves victims because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

@NO1xANIMExFAN

3 жыл бұрын

yea they edited their history textbooks to either not mention it or gloss over japanese military aggression completely. many young japanese people know so little about ww2 that they don't even recognize what the swastika is

@bobble13345

3 жыл бұрын

While you're correct that they do downplay they're own atrocities committed during the war, that still doesn't make it okay what we did to those people. They didn't deserve it

@MR.Mehran61

3 жыл бұрын

The US is a nation built upon the graves of millions of Native Americans. It raised its economy by kidnapping and enslaving millions of people from other part of the globe. It has committed all kinds of atrocity and crimes against humanity during its history. These stuff have also been dramatically downplayed in the official narrative as well as textbooks.

@grapeshot

3 жыл бұрын

@@MR.Mehran61 So true

@grapeshot

3 жыл бұрын

@@NO1xANIMExFAN think of a hundred and fifty ways you could do horrible things and I bet you the Japanese could triple that of the things they did in the city of Nanking. And that's the truth KZread and I don't give a damn if you don't like the truth.

History is written by the victors. Gen Lemay targeted innocent civilians in the firebombing of tokyo stated "if japan had one the war i would be charged with war crimes."

@Zulu2020

2 ай бұрын

Yes I seen a video where he said just that

Was bombing Pearl Harbor without first declaring war, a war crime? Live by the sword, die by the sword.

@teehee4096

3 жыл бұрын

Andrew Birchley civilians shouldn’t suffer for the military’s actions. ever.

@MilitiaHippie

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it was a war crime too.

It is absolutely nice video, telling us so many things. Thank you.

@gcarlson

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. Here is one that actually talks about the two bombings and why they happened. Not a bunch of hyperbole about how bad nukes are. Cheers. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nmqLuaqCp7nRaM4.html

It's called karma people don't realise how many civilians died to the hands of Japanese 🙄

Did Japan apologize for all the Chinese they brutally killed??

In my personal opinion this was a war crime, same for allied bombing of german cities like Dresden. Considering the war crimes Nazi Germany and Japan did, I kind of understand why such actions were taken, still in my opinion these were war crimes, no matter what Japan or Germany did before, because the allies knew they would kill many civilians.

@eman2093

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with what your saying but why not drop the nukes on military bases instead of on civilians

@thegreyghost5846

Жыл бұрын

@@eman2093 because the military bases were located inside civilian zones. Hiroshima was the headquarters of the 2nd General Army which was responsible of the defense of much of Southern Japan, especially Kyushu. The bomb effectively decapitated the 2nd General Army, and killed 20,000 troops. The hard truth is that there are no civilians in Imperial Japan. Everyone was expected to fight and die to defend the islands.

@ashishkalam9337

Жыл бұрын

If someone in my neighborhood goes rogue, shot the man not the neighborhood.

@AlchemistOfNirnroot

Жыл бұрын

@@eman2093 They were warned to evacuate. They didn't.

@coconuciferanuts339

Жыл бұрын

When we look at the way the World is going in 2023 .I wonder about WW2.

Well it is because "killing civilian". Even if it "not consider as a war crime" there's still "The fire bombing of tokyo".

@waynepatterson5843

2 жыл бұрын

Well it is because "killing civilian". Even if it "not consider as a war crime" there's still "The fire bombing of tokyo". Wayne Patterson --- Those air bombardments were lawul acts of war and not war crimes.

@MadMiff

Жыл бұрын

But first you have to remember Nanking.

Well Japan never apologized for bombing pearl harbor and innocent at Hawaii and torturing the enemy

@Josh-eu1vr

9 ай бұрын

i thought they did?

Japan never apologized for attacking pearl harbor when we weren’t even involved in the war at the time. The only reason we got involved in WWII was because they attacked us for literally no good reason.

@WongPeter-tx7qq

14 күн бұрын

Good reason for the Jap though - the US had stopped the selling of oil and scrap metal to and demanded Japan to withdraw from China when the she was knee deep in the invasion of China - that left Japan with no choice but to do a Pearl Harbor hoping that by so doing would keep the USA out of Asia and Japan could then went after the oil and resources in SE Asia,

Ah, when you get to write history! Must be nice.

@farhanxkhan5942

3 жыл бұрын

what about unit 731

@comentariorandom1264

3 жыл бұрын

@@farhanxkhan5942 you see someone defending unit 731? NO , US citizens are brainwashed

@farhanxkhan5942

3 жыл бұрын

@@comentariorandom1264 i am not US citizen

@victoriacocoz

2 жыл бұрын

@@comentariorandom1264 Nobody is defending it for very clear reasons lol but also, nobody seems to be talking about the atrocities committed by the Japanese government. By the way, unit 731 was funded by the Japanese government.

@altumurnemtzra2026

2 жыл бұрын

@@comentariorandom1264 Japan is defending it, in fact they're outright denying it and a bunch of incident. the most evil of that war was neither the nazi the soviets nor the americans it was the japanese hand down!

It definitely was, and we all know it.. *now.*. At the time it just seemed to be a way to end the war, not thinking not comprehending its horrors of the radiation.

@timw2479

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the firebombing

@Make-Asylums-Great-Again

2 жыл бұрын

We all know it was necessary.

@departmentofchemistryunive8926

2 жыл бұрын

@@timw2479 nope it not a warcrime

@helloworld8642

2 жыл бұрын

@@timw2479 not a war crime. An advantage.

@thegreyghost5846

Жыл бұрын

A huge proportion of what we know about radiation's effect on the body came from the bomb survivors

We don’t need to apologize for the bombing. Japan needs to remember it’s vial history.

@1.N.Decent

2 ай бұрын

You don't need to apologize. That was all your ancestors doings. You and Japan just need to understand the lessons.

As a Japanese, I can say that our textbooks act a bit too much like victims. Certainly, as Japanese, we cannot forgive the atomic bombings, but it is important to think and reflect on why they happened.

Deploying weapons in the service of winning a war is a necessary evil, but massacring two whole towns full of innocent people who wanted nothing but the end to the war is beyond vile.

@KalashVodka175

10 ай бұрын

I don’t think that many of them wanted the war to end, not in any way that would involve japanese defeat at least.

@MrMo-zf4ul

10 ай бұрын

@@KalashVodka175 war is war, no matter where you are, if you're a civilian, you're gonna be on the sh*t end of it

@optinddec3613

10 ай бұрын

They were military targets

Shot answer NO

Back then bombing entire cities and killing enemy civilians was not was not abhorred like it is today and it certainly wasn’t regarded as a crime. In all wars when elephants clash , the grass gets trampled.

@ibtunesoriginals2629

9 күн бұрын

You say that like it's a bad thing they're considered war crimes these days?

It was Japan that attacked a US Naval Base without declaring war and you are accusing the US for breaking the rules of war?! Japan already broke the rules...

I think the more important and intreaging question would be "was it necessary?" killing hundreds of thousands of civilians is definitely immoral even if they belong to a nation that was commiting war crimes at the time (let's not pretend Japan is blameless ) but the US claims it was justified because this cruel act supposedly saved more lives than it took , if your bringing this to prevent the use of more nuclear bombs than I'm with you but if you're just digging up America's war crimes just to ask for an apology I think it's pointless as both countries are guilty of too many war crimes to count just like most countries of the world so let's not be hypocrites and pretend that the US is alone in this , either call everyone out for their shit or no one

@FindecanorNotGmail

3 жыл бұрын

The argument is often that the bomb would have been what had prompted Japan to surrender. It wasn't. More people had been killed in fire-bombings of other cities. What made Japan surrender to the US was that Japan had been losing big to the USSR in the North, and surrendering to the US was considered the lesser of two evils.

@alveolate

3 жыл бұрын

@@FindecanorNotGmail we will never know for sure. the imperial japanese command was full of mad men who would've pushed forever until the entire country was bankrupt. there is one view that civilian deaths did nothing to move the imperial commanders (although it may have prompted the royals to act more independently). with that in mind... why _TWO_ bombs? why not one bomb in a far less populated area first? if the US chose a symbolic bomb site - say Mt Fuji - and destroyed it with minimal human casualties... the same intended effect could've been achieved. they can then ramp it up to a _military_ target next - say, a navy dock, after the same dropping of leaflets to warn soldiers of the imminent destruction. a civilian target was always morally bankrupt. the ends do not justify the means.

@imveryoof

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/en94j5Kmepyacpc.html

@korlyth

3 жыл бұрын

This what-aboutism is silly. The facts are that Japan has been called out for decades, went through war-crime trials, and has paid a price for the atrocities they committed, acting like they haven't is just you being ignorant. On the other hand, is the United States who is only considered to be some bastion of all that is good that is somehow incapable of committing any wrong and has never been held to account for atrocities it committed like choosing densely populated cities to demonstrate their new nuclear weapons instead of the countryside as a show of potential force.

@alveolate

3 жыл бұрын

@@korlyth "this what-aboutism is silly" - proceeds to apply what-aboutism in a self-defeating argument. they didn't "pay a price for the atrocities they committed" because those were addressed in the war crimes tribunal. if you assign "justice" without using the proper institutional channels, then anyone can seek vengeance however they like. terrorists think they are making the west "pay the price for their atrocities" by killing random civilians. the saudis think the same for yemen. the KKK thinks the same for non-whites. the UN's ICJ is a very high ideal and most countries refuse to submit 100% to it; but it is the closest we can get to an impartial justice organ at the international level. the war tribunals are similar.

I’m not sure there’s a qualitative difference between killing one person or fifty. Every life is precious. But I think the argument when comparing Hiroshima-Nagasaki to the alternative seems justified. War is not just killing, it’s cruelty and deprivation. War is madness and by scale alone the alternatives to dropping the bomb would have been far worse for far more people, including the Japanese, right? And yes, Imperial Japan was the aggressor, meaning that the other nations were defending themselves. I don't think anyone is pretending the Japanese occupation wasn't horrific. Like the holocaust there's too much eyewitness testimony for it to be false.

Anyone knows the music starts at 7:22?

Troops and civilians are both innocent lives. Millions died to war, Hiroshima shouldn't get special treatment because they got messed up harder for starting a war senselessly attacking pearl Harbour for no reason.

@brucesmith3740

2 жыл бұрын

The reason was: Japan wanted conquer the territories that european colonial powers held in the "far east". They wanted to knock out USA navy.

@grunt117

2 жыл бұрын

So Hiroshima ‘attacked Pearl Harbor” 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨 Are you dumb?

More people should talk about Japan's crimes against the Chinese and Koreans. China and Korea will never let that go.

@summerwest3099

3 жыл бұрын

No, Japan is most definitely not innocent in their history. Yes, the US committed a war crime against Japan. This video is not about what Japan has done; it is about what the US has done. The US still perceives itself as morally superior. They are in for a very rude awakening, which I suspect has already begun.

@matttheripper2652

3 жыл бұрын

@@summerwest3099 LMAO. USA admits what they did now. Japan still covers it up. Cry harder.

@summerwest3099

3 жыл бұрын

@@matttheripper2652"LMAO" ? "Cry harder." ?? I guess I don't communicate with fourth graders that often but the ones I have interacted with are more coherent than you. Probably more intelligent too, considering they don't live in the Deluded States of America.

@matttheripper2652

3 жыл бұрын

It would seem that@@summerwest3099 has been rekt. ;)

@ganaskylight

3 жыл бұрын

@Anna Tiest It's called karma, if you believe in such things.

a lot of people don't seem to get that two wrongs don't make a right

@nukesploder

3 жыл бұрын

Let us forget that Japan refused to negotiate for peace and that they were involved in a brutal war with china for over 10 years, leaving the league of nations after being condemned for its war crimes. Oh, and they attacked the U.S.A first. Say what you want, but let's keep in mind what the considerations were that prompted the bomb.

@nukesploder

3 жыл бұрын

@@deamn46 I'm from Bosnia lol

@bootscrombled

3 жыл бұрын

a lot of people don't seem to get that it was the best option the americans had

@maxwellbarrett9590

3 жыл бұрын

Then call both Pearl Harbour and hiroshima war crimes. There should be no debate.

@dannnsss8034

3 жыл бұрын

@@nukesploder Not just China. Japan was committing genocide all across Asia, even forcing Koreans to fight in the front lines. let's not forget those.

This what it looks like when you think you want the smoke but turns out it was a huge mistake.

Just because something is necessary doesn't mean it's not a war crime.

@cooldude-mi9wz

Жыл бұрын

It wasnt neccesary.

@handsome_steff7951

Жыл бұрын

@@cooldude-mi9wz yea im ngl it was not neccesary to drop those bombs

@prodICYN

Жыл бұрын

@@handsome_steff7951 it's a lot easier to say that 77 years later Japan was the last country standing in a war that killed 60 million people and lasted 6 years they were completely beaten, but didn't want to surrender because it was seen as dishonor. The U.S could've A. Invaded japan, causing a potentially even higher death count for both civilians and military, for both sides B. not use the atomic bombs, they tried that on tokyo, killed around 100k people ( more than the two bombs individually), and still, no surrender C. Use the atomic bombs on key locations (military bases), i.e. Hiroshima and Nagasaki, limiting the potential losses because the us didn't lose any men Was it a war crime? maybe, though not at the time I don't think so, but was it necessary? probably

@handsome_steff7951

Жыл бұрын

@@prodICYN I rather a soldier die in battle then a kid get vaporized in a playground

@imlivingunderyourbed7845

Жыл бұрын

@@prodICYN Even though Hiroshima and Nagasaki have strategic military importance, it was still populated by civilians which they intentionally bombed.

Of all the places to drop a nuclear bomb why drop it on civilians

@waynepatterson5843

2 жыл бұрын

Of all the places to drop a nuclear bomb why drop it on civilians Wayne Patterson --- Because your accusation is a false assumption. The MARK I Little Boy atomic bomb was used to attack the Second General Army and Headquarters and subordinate commands, ~40,000 troops, munitions depots, supply depots, barracks, war industries, and other military targets located at Hiroshima Castle and throughout the City of Hiroshima. The MARK III Fat Man atomic bomb was used to attack the Mitsubishi Arsenals that were manufacturing weapons to be used against the imminent invasions of Japan. The use of civilians to shield military targets from enemy attacks is a war crime under the laws of war, and about a third of the Japanese civilians heeded the enemy warnings to evacuate before the air bombardments to rural communities where they remained unharmed by the air bombardments. The Japanese Government also evacuated about 85% of the children to safety in the rural communities. Those civilians who remained in proximity to the military targets became participants in the military activities, forfeited any protected status as civilians under the laws of war, and assumed personal responsibility for any injuries and deaths suffered by their choices to become lawful objects of enemy attacks. Always remember that some civilians lose their protected status as civilians under the laws of war if and when they become participants, willingly or unwillingly, in military activities. In other words, under some circumstances civilians could be lawfully and morally killed during military attacks.

This whole idea that war should be 'fair and friendly'is asinine. In the past 60 years it seems every nation is pushing for 'fair warfare'. War is war, there is supposed to be no boundaries or segregation of peoples. That is why its more important than ever to reach solutions to wars instead of make them 'safer.' I have great respect for our veterans and service members, but they days of both war and this ideology that we can make it more socially acceptable by being nicer should be over! War should be the same disgusting, repulsive, unwated suffering it has always been, and we shouldnt try to make it more 'acceptable in public opinion.'

@nnass262

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that targeting cities full of civilians is a massive war crime

@waynepatterson5843

2 жыл бұрын

@@nnass262 --- Pretty sure that targeting cities full of civilians is a massive war crime Wayne Patterson --- Wrong...and dead wrong to be more precise. The war crime, if any, was any Japanese use of civilians to shield military objectives without acknowledging their participation in the hostilities were no longer protected by the laws of war. The Commander's Handbook on the Law of Land Warfare Law of War Manual...5.16 PROHIBITION ON USING PROTECTED PERSONS AND OBJECTS TO SHIELD, FAVOR, OR IMPEDE MILITARY OPERATIONS Parties to a conflict may not use the presence or movement of protected persons or objects: (1) to attempt to make certain points or areas immune from seizure or attack; (2) to shield military objectives from attack; or (3) otherwise to shield or favor one’s own military operations or to impede the adversary’s military operations. Protected Persons and Objects. In particular, the civilian 5.16.1 population, protected persons under the GC, POWs, fixed medical establishments and medical units, parlementaires and other persons protected by a flag of truce, and cultural property are protected persons and objects that may not be used for the above purposes. Although persons and objects that are protected by the law of war may not be used in these ways, this rule does not prohibit a party from using what would otherwise be a civilian object for military purposes and thereby converting it to a military objective that is not protected by the law of war. For example, a building that previously was a civilian object could be used for military purposes (including as cover) and would not implicate this rule because it would no longer be a protected object. Similarly, this rule does not prohibit persons who would otherwise be civilians from participating in hostilities or otherwise assuming the risks inherent in supporting military operations.

@jdubo1998

2 жыл бұрын

@@nnass262 Apparently not, lmao.

@firebird4909

2 жыл бұрын

@@waynepatterson5843 yes, but the Japanese were not using civilians as shields in Hiroshima, under the rules of the war intentionally harming civilians was a war crime. It is true that this was a necessary evil and that when you break the rules of war you are no longer protected by them, but that doesn't mean that the USA should not apologize for what they did.

@elvin6utierrez

2 жыл бұрын

This is the mentality of people with no honor and mercy for human life. War is between combatants without involving the elderly, children and non combatants.

The US shouldn’t ever apologize either. Japan refused to surrender even after the first bomb was dropped so they definitely weren’t ready to surrender. The entire population was preparing to fight to the death to defend Japan and the emperor who they considered a god. The US government had a responsibility to its citizens and military to protect American life and as unpopular as it is it saved American lives as well as Japanese lives. The Americans fire bombed Tokyo which I believed killed more people and then dropped a nuke and japan still refused to surrender. It wasn’t until the 2nd bomb was dropped that japan surrendered facing the potential destruction of the entire country.

The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a crime against humanity

@TairaaOdenii

2 ай бұрын

Are you going to ignore the human experimentation, pearl harbor, and their conquest of Asia? You're such a fool. Unfortunately, you can say anything you want out of ignorance. That's freedom of speech. Doesn't change the fact you're diabolically ignorant.

Without a doubt

@therepugnantmama2158

3 жыл бұрын

No

@victoriacocoz

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend you watch this video about a few of the many atrocities committed by the Japanese. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iplp3LpwYcmceaw.html

@nihonneko2663

2 жыл бұрын

@@victoriacocoz As a Japanese, I am ashamed of the atrocities committed in World War II. But why is that a reason to affirm the atrocities committed by the US?

It's not a war crime , sincs you win the war...

@graze1177

3 жыл бұрын

If they lose japanese would do more atrocities than those 2 nuke does

the only country that used an actual weopon of mass destruction, not once, but even twice. Even after they new Japan had already surrendered. What does this tell you about the evil forces that run the empire of lies? Sick.

@zaferyesilay9400

3 ай бұрын

Yeah not once but TWICE! Unbelievable af.

@dr.davidenglish778

Ай бұрын

"Even after Japan had already surrendered." You are entitled to your opinion, but not facts. Please give me the citation of a substantive article or book with proof of this claim.

AJ+: nuking is a war crime. Imperial Japan:what stop looking at me I definitely didn't commit war crime 😅

So we are living in a world where Nuclear weapons use is debated if it is war crime or not.😑

@srpskikrizar5856

3 жыл бұрын

light hunter yes we are believe it or not if the USA was nuked they would Scream ITS A WAR CRIME WHERE IS HUMANITY

@LucienKreische

3 жыл бұрын

@Chuck Sta. Maria Killing innocents is a war crime. It’s always been that way. How are you going to justify killing women and children.

@DeimosEclipse

3 жыл бұрын

@@LucienKreische Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military targets... during war time... bombed after the U.S. was cowardly attacked by Japan.

@LucienKreische

3 жыл бұрын

@@DeimosEclipse You can’t justify civilian casualties and children.

@DeimosEclipse

3 жыл бұрын

@@LucienKreische It's called collateral. Civilians were not the intended targets, and warnings were given the week before. It's not a war crime just because you desperately want it to be.

Closed Captioning! For fricking sakes. CLOSED CAPTIONING.

@sumrandumguy7177

3 жыл бұрын

U can turn captions on

@chownful

3 жыл бұрын

@@sumrandumguy7177 i need sign language captions

@Wtfdawg321

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, are you deaf? If so, I could understand but I have a feeling that’s not why...

Whatever the justification or reason given, it was still genocide. Project director Leslie Groves expressed the regret in his memoirs that the bombs were not used on bigger cities where the entire range of destruction could be measured all the way to the outskirts where there would be little or no damage caused. The cities that were nuked were kept pristine and not damaged in any way. Yes, it was also an experiment on other human beings.

Not a warcrime, a crime vs humanity.

@ZyliceLiddell

Жыл бұрын

And the *PLANET!*

@TwoToneTonyLee

10 ай бұрын

What been crime not to use it. Japanese were fanatics. All willing to die for a god of a emperor

@Ian-zf5ss

9 ай бұрын

Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Chinese, Korean, Taiwanese, Filipinos, and more that suffered at the hands of Japan and the hundreds of thousands more than would have suffered had the war went on for years after 1945(The war would have went way longer had it not been for the nukes). Not to mention the hundreds of American soldiers AND Japanese soldiers + civilians that would have died had it not been for the nukes. The idiotic take of Westerns who have the privilege of living in the 21st century who don't realize the true gravity of the situation astounds me.

It's easier to judge the action was a war crime when we are living in this era.

@quincyquincy4764

3 жыл бұрын

Even in modern times Trump threatened to nuke a hurricane, North Korea and Iran. We are justified in calling the 2 bombings a war crime

@DeimosEclipse

3 жыл бұрын

@@quincyquincy4764 Did he bomb any of those places? You are not justified at all.

@quincyquincy4764

3 жыл бұрын

@@DeimosEclipse He didn't because others prevented that not because he didn't want to use nukes

@DeimosEclipse

3 жыл бұрын

@@quincyquincy4764 But they approved it in WWII? Maybe that should tell you that your comparison is wrong.

@quincyquincy4764

3 жыл бұрын

@@DeimosEclipse kudos for having a less scummy government.

Absolutely not. You start a war you don't get to decide how it ends .

Reckon the 30 million civilians japan killed arent really bothered sbout this "war crime"

lol if u didnt know real facts about this war you will never understand why the u.s. use the atomic bomb

China was grateful

@CRenggi

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the rest of Asia and the Alies. Ppl these days only know how to question past judgement, rather than teach I a calm way. Ppl nowadays always throw around words,

"Americans may be convinced of their intention not to start a war of aggression or preventativeness. Thus, they may perhaps believe that it is superfluous to publicly announce that in the future they will not be the first to use the atomic bomb. But this country has been solemnly urged to renounce the use of the bomb, that is, to ban it, and has refused to do so unless its conditions on international control are accepted." _Albert Einstein

@Mukk13man

3 жыл бұрын

Private citizens have A-bombs; there is no true disarmament once the tech is invented.

@darthridic123

3 жыл бұрын

The USSR would like to give Einstein a medal for making an effort to abolish nukes in the US while they keep manufacturing there’s.

@preachinhell2580

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of Americans today still think bombing civilians of Taiwan and Japan was “best decision ever made”. Their ancestors killed thousands of thousands innocent civilians, but insisted that they were no innocence in Japan. War actions were all bad. But winners can always get away with it.

@darthridic123

3 жыл бұрын

@@preachinhell2580 are you dumb or misinformed? The bombings were to get Japan to surrender. Sure it’s an atrocity that civilians died but how many more would have died if the US full on invaded? It’s not even comparable but Japan wasn’t innocent either, look at their war crimes against the Chinese. Sure blame the US for bombing 2 cities but at least we weren’t dissecting humans while they were alive or freezing body parts then smashing them with a hammer to see what would happen.

@comentariorandom1264

3 жыл бұрын

@@preachinhell2580 Yeah, they are all brainwashed by their goverment , they are just hypocrites

Did the Japanese apologize for all the millions of innocent civilians, women and children they killed in the war? Did they apologize for Nanking? Did they apologize for Manila?

The United States will never apologize and compensate A-bomb survivors for dropping A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Other nuclear powers will also believe that American A-bombings on Japan is justifiable. But what if nuclear weapons were used on Ukraine and other parts of the world, they would have to think twice about their idea. People in both nuclear powers and nonnuclear nations are living under Damocles` sword.

@feraltaco4783

9 ай бұрын

Damocles sword, yes. But we should never apologize for doing the right thing!

Japanese prime minister Abe Shinzo still goes to Yasukuni Shrine every year to perform the ceremony to summon the souls of 230 million dead soldiers in the WW2. Yushukan, a museum of the yasukuni shrine, still sending messages like "our sacred war against asian countries are war of justice, they are puppets of western colonizers, we fight to liberate them".

@cameronhenke593

Жыл бұрын

Not anymore

@danielkokal8819

Жыл бұрын

there were NOT 230 million dead soldiers in WW2. total casualties for WW2 + civilian was 60 million

@azlanraiman7323

Жыл бұрын

that's the problem. u come to our countries and raped women and kill children. but u dont want to admit. Stupid japanese.

@nicknovic3828

Жыл бұрын

230 million? 2300000 maybe

@MadMiff

Жыл бұрын

@@danielkokal8819 Maybe he should be saying sorry for Nanking instead.

Yes. Next question.

@Zoink888

3 жыл бұрын

Next question...how much money can we scam out of USA making them feel guilty 75 years later?

@Caterfree10

3 жыл бұрын

Mike Hunt Your bad faith question is blatant.

@mt8956

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zoink888 Japan already did, most of ww2 movies the enemy is Germany & japan played the victim of nuclear weapons. Propaganda against Japan stopped after the bombs.

@littlerockdoc3183

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a bit more complex than that. Full scale invasion of Japan would have undoubtedly killed more Japanese. Not to mention hundreds of thousands of US solders. Keep in mind. The US had been fire bombing Japanese cities long before the atomic bomb. Japan wasn’t giving up.

@Caterfree10

3 жыл бұрын

max marrero smart asses go sit in the corner

More important question is why Japan still worships many officially recognized war criminals as their national heros in the Yasukuni shrine?

@Vetgil

2 жыл бұрын

Why not? I worship Genghis Khan too

@latarianhoodrat22

2 жыл бұрын

Just like how america also worships it’s traitors…

@malickfan7461

2 жыл бұрын

@@latarianhoodrat22 Such as?

@millabasset1710

2 жыл бұрын

@@malickfan7461 Any Confederate soldier, but then again you're ok with overlooking your own history, but are ignorant regarding the history of others.

@malickfan7461

2 жыл бұрын

@@millabasset1710 Your unlikely to find confederates being worshiped by anyone other than their direct descendants or those uneducated on the American civil war. But please continue to make ignorant generalizations instead of doing any actual research.

Ask Japan about war crimes. They practically pioneered it.

@luklukfamous175

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter who done it, who first or who a lot War crime is a war crime

@what4288

2 жыл бұрын

@@luklukfamous175 but some are justified

I don't think making stronger nuke should be a thing. An atom bomb is very scary and more than enough destructive power I can't imagine if it was an H bomb instead of an atom bomb at that time

Intentional when an American hates Japan during that time.. not a strategic move at all..

of course it's a War crimes. War crimes only imply to the losing countries, doesn't mean that the winning team is innocent.

@dathip

3 жыл бұрын

No, it wasn't. They deserved to be wiped out.

@Vetgil

2 жыл бұрын

@@dathip so do your countrymen

@dathip

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vetgil nope

Japan has never apologized to the US for attacking Pearl Harbor. The US was not at war with Japan on December 7th, 1941. We were the next day.

@nanotektor

3 жыл бұрын

Not the same bombing a military base than a whole city. Civilians were innocent. The US could have wiped out all the military power using nukes, but they decided to bomb cities. The most stupid decision.

@nanotektor

3 жыл бұрын

@@RC-rk2xs Yep, Japan should apologize. But never nuking!

@nanotektor

3 жыл бұрын

@@RC-rk2xs You can disagree, but that does not justify nuking.

@nanotektor

3 жыл бұрын

@@RC-rk2xs sufre, a big enough asteroid would end up all upcoming wars, HAHAHA

@joeyjamison5772

3 жыл бұрын

They started it. We finished it. Never pick a fight with someone bigger than you!

Shouldn't all war be considered a crime? What is right about killing someone who is apart of another group.

pretty sure that the nuking was a war crime, not as if japan hadn't singlehandidly committed more war crimes then all the nations combined

Not only that, but Tokyo Fire bombing as well.

@alf6259

2 жыл бұрын

@@preachinhell2580 not only that it takes two to tango.

@km9191

2 жыл бұрын

Actually bombing of Tokyo was more destructive.

@craigpierce7996

Жыл бұрын

Not only that, but Baton Death March, Iwo Jima. People love to view things from only one side.

@stevenclark5646

Жыл бұрын

It was the best way to stop the atrocities committed by the Japanese in china

@mohamedaboelenein7727

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenclark5646 No. Japan was about to surrender. They were already have been negotiating with the US before hand. When the USSR joined the war and over run Manchuria, Japan's main base of the mainland, it was over for Japan.

Japan started the war and AMERICA finished it… justifiable

@grunt117

2 жыл бұрын

So killing innocent civilians is okay to do? K 🤡

@grunt117

2 жыл бұрын

Btw, I bet you’ve never fired a weapon in your life

@waynepatterson5843

2 жыл бұрын

@@grunt117 --- So killing innocent civilians is okay to do? K 🤡 Wayne Patterson --- Your pretense that the casualties were "innocent civilians" is a lie. The casualties were not "innocent civilians" under the Laws of War which you pretend to employ.

@grunt117

2 жыл бұрын

@@waynepatterson5843 there is no such thing as ‘law of war’. The only rules are to survive by any means necessary; that’s it. There are ‘no rules’ if your life is on the line. War is fkn awful

@waynepatterson5843

2 жыл бұрын

@@grunt117 --- there is no such thing as ‘law of war’. Wayne Patterson --- LOL! You just cannot keep from uttering yet another absurd lie. Perhaps it's because you want to continue advocating the commission of a war crime/s. Law of War Manual...5.16 PROHIBITION ON USING PROTECTED PERSONS AND OBJECTS TO SHIELD, FAVOR, OR IMPEDE MILITARY OPERATIONS...Parties to a conflict may not use the presence or movement of protected persons or objects: (1) to attempt to make certain points or areas immune from seizure or attack; (2) to shield military objectives from attack; or (3) otherwise to shield or favor one’s own military operations or to impede the adversary’s military operations... Although persons and objects that are protected by the law of war may not be used in these ways, this rule does not prohibit a party from using what would otherwise be a civilian object for military purposes and thereby converting it to a military objective that is not protected by the law of war.

No, it wasn't a war crime and the USA should never apologize.

The bombings had to be done to shock the pack of criminals that controlled Japan back then into surrender!!!!!

@spunkymaniac9312

8 ай бұрын

Why not bombing them instead of the civilians??? I'm sure you won't be saying the same if you were to be sacrificed

@Marc816

8 ай бұрын

@@spunkymaniac9312 Unfortunately, civilians ALWAYS suffer because of the stupidity of their leaders. That has happened in every war, before & after WW2.

@terpahoy6837

7 ай бұрын

@@spunkymaniac9312idiot

Japan was the first one to pick a fight

@danielhekli2634

3 жыл бұрын

It's a bit more complex then that. If you see the wider picture, there was no "good" side, only colonial empires. In history winners are the "good guys" and losers are the "bad guys". Ideologys are an another story, which made possible by humilating WW1 "peace" (mean truce). If USA had been the good, they offer a peace when japanese was defeated, instead of nuke them. They wanted japan to capitulate, to be able to force their own interests. (Yes, Japan was defeated they only hold the main islands with industry bombed to the ground, but they would never capitulate whitout total occupation) Every side commited some war crimes, every nation admitted it. Except the USA, you heard it, it was OK until you don't apology. WTF?!

@millabasset1710

3 жыл бұрын

FDR put them on an oil embargo first, meanwhile the west ignored the war in China for a whole decade. You're an ignorant idiot.

@timduncan9372

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm just like Afghanistan eh? Iraq too perhaps?

@jimmymcjimmy2691

3 жыл бұрын

@@millabasset1710 Yes oil embargo = right to kill.

@victoriacocoz

2 жыл бұрын

@Anatiest Do you think Japan was innocent?? They also committed atrocities. If anything, the blame falls more on Japan since they were warned and asked to surrender before the dropping of the bombs. They chose not to and continued fighting. Clearly a decision based on pride and a lack of care for the civilians that would then pay the price. Before you expect the US government to take into account Japanese civilians, what about the Japanese government and Emperor doing everything they can to avoid something like this?? They didn't do that though and that should show you just who exactly was on the wrong side of history. This is the same government that worked alongside Nazis and also the same government the supported and gave army personnel to Unit 731, who committed some of the most vile and disturbing war crimes you've ever heard. Would you have preferred they win? Don't try it dear.

with a title like that I expect to see a sample of both sides of the debate

it's a war crime and they should apologize and then japan shoukd apologize for their crimes too.