Very interesting topic! Thanks for sharing your experience and solutions for typical drill press issues. Also, the discounts are great!

The first year of my Toolmakers apprenticeship was mainly about drumming in the importance of safety. However the safety precautions also needed to be practical. On the drill press what was most important was to have a quick method to stop the workpiece from spinning. All we did was secure a stop on the table to rest the workpiece against. If the safety setup is too complicated most would do without.

@joemcgarry1106

Жыл бұрын

Retired toolmaker here. I agree

@kenshores9900

Жыл бұрын

Not a machinist but have seen enough things happen that I realize that using clamps, lubricants, and the correct drill speed for the material. Speed is not as important as with metals. Like you said it only takes an instant and you have a flying projectile. Good thoughtful video. Thanks.

Thanks for the tip! Ordered the large AND small fences! Love this company, they’re just down the road from me!

TIL I have been far too lax with my drill press and super lucky. Thank you for this video!!

Excellent video! The more safety videos, the better.

Interesting vid. I have recently gotten a drill press and think the Carter mag switch fence is how I’m going to solve the issue. They have adjustable locations on the larger one so while I have the smaller table the longer fence would give more reference area if doing longer length items. Thanks for sharing the video. Always enjoy what you show.

You are awesome, Colin!

My adopted grandfather had an old drillpress that I inherited. So I appreciate the instruction video and for those of you wondering no I haven't used it yet. Cause I know any tool can be dangerous if used improperly. That and It's in storage right now cause I don't have room for it where I live currently.

Good tip as I've not seen those mag switches and will be looking at them for my (identical looking) drill press. Nothing gets your attention faster then a 1/2" drill bit grabbing a chunk of steel and spinning it around - and I know better since a part of my job years back was a huge 6 foot radial arm drill press

Good video. I am but andrill press this summer and appreciate the tips!!!

Great tips!

Great video. Thanks for sharing. The metal plate that comes with the drill press to put your material on is kind of "hollow". The edges (downwards) are the deeper than the middle part of the down side and most of the time there are some "ribs" to make it a little stronger. I have four "triangles" underneath the surface of the metal plate, in the middle of each is a rib. To make clamping possible I cut out triangles of plywood of the same thickness as the edge. In the plywood triangles I drilled holes, in which I glued small magnets. This way the underside of the drill press plate is more or less flat and I can use clamps whenever I want.

You are right Collin, my fingers can testify it !

Thanks Colin always looking out for our safety. I have had bits grab the material while trying to hold the piece it's a stupid thing to do.

Great tips. Thanks!

Thank you. You are salt of the earth.

Great mag switch commercial! That really made me want to buy all of them.

Goede tips!!‼👌 Bedankt.🙏🙂

Thx for ur video

Very timely, apart from Magswitch specials (I am in Australia), I just this week found 2 magswitches that I used on my tablesaw and they are 'pinned' to the metal wall on my shed. I now have use for them....

Good video Colin alittle long but still informative

Thank you

Thanks Colin for the ideas, and info about the mag switch sale... I got the drill press fence, feather board starter kit, a riser feather board, and a couple of mag switches to play with on a future jig if I want to make one... I wanted to get the drill press vise, but it was $339.99 and that would make my total over $600... maybe there will be another time, I have to space out purchases.

Hello, You are so right! 4 weeks ago I almost destroyed the thumb of my left hand, the large tendon had to be operated on: I used the 50mm Forstner Bit on a drill stand to drill a rain gutter (plastics), forgot a stop and didn't know of a hold-down device for this purpose. My expensive and painful mistake...

Thanks!!!

I'm just now getting back into a workshop after a disaster to my father in 81, but I don't remember so many accidents around the tool shop growing up with my father's shop and training at high school.

I have a plywood top with a homemade plywood fence with built in wooden clamps. I can’t afford those fancy magnetic clamps. This is more of to a product recommendation then an educational video.

Now that I've watched it through a bit longer, would you please list the link to where you got that mag switch set-up? That would be a game-changer with that jig you put on top.

Thanks Ive also noticed they are pretty dangerous. I often run mine off a variac to reduce the speed and power. However clamping has always been a nightmare so I will into the magnetic locks.

I got my first drill press recently. When I first started to use it, I was extremely nervous but as I’ve used it more and more, I’ve gotten more and more comfortable- almost too comfortable. So I’m glad to have caught this. Honestly, it seems to me that tools get more dangerous the more comfortable ( I really mean “lazy” with them). Not that it’s great for you to be so scared that you aren’t secure in using them either.

@galaga00

9 ай бұрын

I remember reading a thing about more plane crashes happening with seasoned pilots for this same reason.

@masterjefftkd

6 ай бұрын

Martial arts and Concealed Carry weapon instructor here. Well, here in Florida the new law shut down my concealed carry business, so now I'm just martial arts. Anyway, you are dead on right about a respectful fear of tools. When I used to teach concealed carry classes, the first thing I did was hand out a folder stuffed with disturbing gunshot wound photos. Some freaked out and left. Good. Better a lost student than a dead or maimed one. Naivety is a killer. If you can't handle the truth about what a tool accident can do, probably best to stay away from that tool. I recently set my T-shirt on fire doing "one quick cut" with an angle grinder. After smacking the fire out, I put away the tool, sat down at the computer, and looked up angle grinder injury photos. That set my mind right. Now I'm ready to get back to work, safely, never when I'm tired, never when I'm angry, and definitely never in a hurry. Anyway...good luck with your tools!

MagSwitches definitely help the situation over hand-holding any workpiece, but just be aware that while they are excellent for vertical holding power (up/down to the face of what they are attached to), they are nowhere near as strong with lateral loading (side to side shear strength) and can slip. This is especially true of the smaller ones and on smooth metal surfaces and/or ones coated with wax. You need very large MagSwitches or many small ones to achieve enough lateral holding strength. I've had parts I tried to hold to my drill press and table saw, slip under side loading. Those 150s you show are rated for 150 lbs. of face holding strength (each, up/down), not lateral (shear). Just be careful with extra large drill bits that have a tendency to grab. For me, nothing replaces actually clamping the workpiece down when I use those, as well as using a firmly locked down fence to side brace against the possible rotation of the part.

@jeffa847

Жыл бұрын

Do you think the 150s he mentions are strong enough laterally?

The deck on mine is melamine, manufactured for shelving. It's screwed, along with the fence, to the table at one corner. The fence is a length of MDF, a hold drilled to accommodate an F clamp. The other side/end is held down by the clamp, and the fence position is adjustable by swivelling it. I don't do a lot of woodworking, if it wears out I will replace it, more quickly than I could replace a sacrificial patch.

After using a drill press without issue for more than 40 years, I recently had a mishap where the bit jammed in the workpiece and spun the drill press vice until the bit broke and threw the vise through a wooden door about 8 feet away. If the bit had broken about 1/4 turn earlier the vise would have hit me in the chest. Two weeks earlier and it might have hit my grandson in the face. I made 2 mistakes. I was trying to drill out a 1/4" hole with a 3/8" bit in a brass fitting and the very corners of the bit end easily jammed in the brass. And I did not have the vise fastened down to the table. My only injury was a cut on my hand when I reflexively tried to grab the spinning vise. Complacency is a bitch.

The vise mount looks very exciting. Sounds like I'd get 15% discount on that one but didn't see that reflected once I had it in my cart. Is that discount not available until November 25? Will this one qualify for the 10% additional discount for using your link?

2 decades ago I nearly lost my hand when a bit caught on a sheet of aluminum and it shredded my hands and fingers, quick thinking mad eme pull it back and I was able to save my hand.

Collin. You did a video on mag switches where you told us how large a hole to drill for various switches and how much of an offset Can you tell me how big a hole to drill for mag jig 60 and what offset. I also didn’t see the info on the mag switch Black Friday sale?

Where do you find those mag switches?

"Let me talk to you about safety while I drill without my safety glasses"

Very interesting 🤔

Twist bits are more dangerous generally than Forstner and similar bits because as they come out the back of the job they try to lift the job UP. I was drilling some 3/4" holes in resin castings, had the drill vice braced against the column - the drill ripped the casting up and out of the vice then proceeded to give me a good thrashing with the casting. Took a few attempts to get enough clamps on to stop that. Another danger is long sleeves or similar loose clothing - if they get caught they will pull you into the moving parts suddenly and leave you tangled up, possibly unable to turn the machine off or get yourself free. You probably won't even be able to get to your phone to ring for help if you are working alone.

Your right about that

Are a pair of MagJig 90’s strong enough for a drill press fence? My hunch is yes, but I thought I’d throw it out there.

Bosch bench top drill press pbd40 comes with built in fence and metal table which is great. I think this drill is one of the best with capacity of 13mm chuck. floor stand drill press that's another story

I need to put a fence in; I use a machining vice for small parts otherwise hands and hold like f; thanks for this

I appreciate your concern for viewers' safety, but this video seemed like a commercial for Mag Switch.

I doubt there are more people seriously wound by the drill press than by the table saw.

@notsoberoveranalyzer8264

11 ай бұрын

So according to the US commission for Consumer product and safety commission 2,500 workers are hurt by drill presses per year. I’m trying to find out what they estimate for tablesaws. I know it’s at least 30,000 per year ~ but the pool isn’t just for workers, but those who use them at home. But I still can’t imagine that drill presses hurt/kill more. They do, but yeah.

How come when I go to your mag switch link it says "you are shopping with Izzy Swan"? If I was to use that link, will you get the credit for my purchase or would Izzy?

No eye protection?

Bought me one

What you did not show is using an X-Y "machinist" vise, A 4" vise is not expensive and works very well for getting holes in exact position.

I checked out the Mag Switches as I intended to make a drill press table. No discount after they tacked on a $27 UPS shipping charge for two small switches.

I guy I used to work with lost the tip of his finger to the knuckle using drill press when it grabbed the metal and smashed his finger against the column.

Yeah..I thought I must get those mag clamps until I saw the price…in UK like 120 bucks equivalent.

Guilty as charged. Holding a piece of sheet steel with my bare hands...what was I thinking. Well it bit and only god knows why I didn't even end up with a single scratch. I understood that was the only warning that I would receive. Clamps or fences always, great video.

I had seen a guy drilling into a fairly large sheet of stainless-steel diamond plate with no clamps he lost control of it and got a big gash in his arm. Got lucky as in it was bad but could have been a lot worse.

8:24 8:39 Is a Jake anything like a Jig?

Only two tools have sent me to the emergency room. The first was a jig saw. I have no idea how it managed to rip the nail off my ring finger. The second was my cordless drill. I was using a forstner bit and holding the workpiece with my left hand. The bit grabbed and jumped out of the hole and tore off my thumbnail, breaking the bone in the tip of my thumb in the process. I see people doing this all the time. It gives me a visceral reaction every time. Forstner bits are really nasty and it takes only the slightest off-axis pressure to get it to grab and buck. I haven’t chucked one in in a hand held held drill since.

I have a table with a fence. On the deck I have two t-tracks. So I use the fence and one or two clamps to hold down pieces. The typical drill press with the cast table is made for metal work. In wood working we tend to drill bigger holes than the hole in the table. So having a table on top with a fence and t-tracks is much safer than just holding down the work with your hand. Even if you dont get hurt you can ruin your work piece. 😀

@Sillyturner

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I did with my drill press. Works great.

Is it more dangerous than a radial arm saw?

Why can’t I find your modification to your drill press incorporating a set of calipers

any power tool is dangerous, but I have never had a drill press shotgun a chunk of wood at my head like a table saw. Most people would think the safe practice to using a table saw is to have minimal grip with a pair of dainty sticks but OMG a freakin drill press! Make a jig with 9 toggle clamps!!! Also, I would argue big bits are not all that big of a deal, most people can stall a hole saw just with minimal hand pressure ... twist bits are the one's that like the suck the work up and swing it at your face

Oh this is cool! *Looks up price* Well I have a piece of scrap wood, some clamps, and a fence...

As much ax you can rest your part again the left side of the round post before you start drilling. That is an habit to acquire.

I always wear safety glasses even if it's a simple drill.

Never leave a bit in the Chuck when not in use .

$300 for a mag switch fence is aimed at the newest generation of woodworkers. So with 30% off it's still $200; lots of groceries. All this stuff is great if they want to send me one, gratis, also.

@tektrixter

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Mag switches for jigs look like a great convenience, but not at $100 for a pair! It would be nice if a less industrial version was mode for woodworkers at a lower price-point.

No option for shipment to Canada? Links are for your discount but can only choose US or Mexico to ship to, am I missing something???

@dennisafowler

Жыл бұрын

They messaged me and said no shipping to Canada, despite their website saying they ship to Canada

@stevesteve9

Жыл бұрын

@@dennisafowler Thxs Dennis, interesting given Colin is based in Canada

Great video! I’m sure it was an oversight, but you forgot your safety goggles.

If it has a motor, it will eventually turn you into hamburger if you are stupid in its use.

Totally agree that drill presses are dangerous. Great tips. Good to remember to put your safety glasses on your face though.

@dashcammer4322

Жыл бұрын

That was the first thing I noticed.

Sleeves, long loose hair, and apron tails are the most common source of drilling accidents. Clamping material should be a given, even in hand drilling.

Excellent Video!! I would add that when using your metal vise, why not just attach it to your first mag jig? It would save you from having to buy the mag platform.

@terryk3118

Жыл бұрын

Probably would not have the holding power to resist the torque of the drill bit breaking through the workpiece. Interesting to know how powerful the magnets are on that vise mount compared to the 150's shown.

Hi Colin, I just wanted to let you know the deal is not available to Canadians. I was sent this message from Mag-Tools by Magswitch Hello Dennis - We are sorry for the inconvenience but are not shipping to Canada. Please contact one of our Dealers in Canada. Here is a list. ORS, WACHS, Fastenal. If you need anymore information please let us know. Thanks!

*meanwhile angle grinders*

@jeffa847

Жыл бұрын

The total number of injuries is probably higher on tablesaws because they are used so often but I bet per hour angle grinders with a cut-off wheel are the worst

@carpentryfirst3048

6 ай бұрын

I got and use everything. Most dangerous tools are table saw, router/router table, and joiner. Grinders are pretty safe tbh

2:20 Safety glasses protecting your chest?

It's ironic that you're taking about how dangerous a drill press can be - while you're drilling without eye protection.

There can only be one 'most dangerous' tool so how can the drill press be one of 'the most....?

Lucky for me my drill press is junk like my band saw so it never gets used

Augh i think these solutions feel kind of unnecessary and overcomplicated for just drilling wood. If we are talking about drilling smaller pieces where you can't get enough of a leverage or your hand is getting close to the drill, then yes this is advised. On other hand, drilling metal is totally another level of danger and requires more cautious approach.

How about safety glasses???

AND this is the reason the rest of us have to pay a premium for Gagswitch stuff

@vashon100

Жыл бұрын

Gagswitch LOL

Nice Videos! I think you would have sent a safer message at the start of the video by actually WEARING your safety googles and not have them just hanging from your neck.

There are no good arguments for why a drill press is more dangerous than a table saw.

A sheer eye-rolling topic...this is why vices exist. Darwins' theory provides.

Safety glasses?

a safety video with no safety glasses

IF you think drill press is dangerous you didnt see the russian lathe accident video !Maybe its better that you didnt thou ,live in bliss of not knowing.

Wearing a long sleeve shirt or coat will get you hurt. Loose fitting work gloves are dangerous.

You need safety glasses on

makes safety video and doest wear the safefty glasses on his neck

Safety demonstration without any safety gear…no PPE. Fail.

NONE of these solutions are what I would recommend for a woodworker. I'm honestly a little puzzled by what you're missing. Get a full drill press table with T-Tracks and an optional fence. You can buy the cheapest ones for under $60. You can use hold downs in the tracks, clamps will work on the edge of the table, you probably have the ability to have a sacrificial board in the middle. The things you give up like the ability to tilt the table, maybe you have to keep the original table lower, it's all worth it. If you really need to you can take the table off but you'll probably never do it. I had a small table on my old benchtop press and when I got a full size press I got a larger table.

@michaelfairchild

Жыл бұрын

Its likely to put a product into the mix.

There are no dangerous tools only stupid users that dont abide to safety rules and respect the tool.

As already said, you show poor safety by not even wearing safety glasses!

I say bull💩. The lathe is far more dangerous.

@mheermance

4 ай бұрын

Personally I think the table saw beats both of them.

could you use a microphone so we can hear you better

A tool is only as dangerous as the inexperience and/or stupidity of the person using it. Having said that, this claim is sort of ridiculous. If you secure your work piece appropriately, it's perfectly safe. Not doing so would be stupid as I said before.

@dwightl5863

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what Colin said.