Props to Owen for the blink-and-you'll-miss-it Phantom Menace quote!

Oooh, loving the old school Nids with the goblin green bases!!!

That was a surprisingly good batrep, showing off the value of horde teams vs elite teams. Also really looking forward to that next batrep! Death Guard are looking good from what I've seen of their rules.

I love the 2nd ed Tyranids. Some of my favourite models in a weird way even though they were replaced long before I was in the game.

Always watch a match vs Owen

Loving the Kill Team 2021 content. Any chance of a “On the Paint Table” showing how you did the terrain?

@interestedgee7324

2 жыл бұрын

Yhhh I would love that

@williambonnell450

2 жыл бұрын

Seconded

@J0hnnySc0tt

2 жыл бұрын

Thirded

@chunkycornbread4773

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like he sprayed everything with lead beltcher. Then dry brushed some areas and the platforms looks like he just put different contrast paints on the "different pieces".

I was worried that it was going to be a blowout in favor of Custodes, but it actually was very close. Gives me hope that the factions are pretty well balanced.

@chunkycornbread4773

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. I wasn't sure how custodies would perform so that was an interesting watch.

@slanahesh

2 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't have been so close if he'd remember the rules for his custodes, they don't suffer the -1 to hit from being wounded and I'm pretty sure he forgot his double shoot/fight activation at least once. Oh and if he hadn't deployed his sisters just standing out in the open for one to get shot off the board on the first tyranid activation would've been good.

@effindave6909

2 жыл бұрын

@@slanahesh That double shoot/fight seems kinda broken. I get that the custodes are going to be better than your average unit cause you don't get as many of them but wow... Maybe change that to 2 cp?

@shadowhunter8246

2 жыл бұрын

@@effindave6909 this seems more balanced

@nicholasppoole

2 жыл бұрын

It looks like a very friendly build/a little bit of shortsightedness in the listbuilding. He said at the beginning "Theres no reason to take 20 models" but as a custodes player, you want 4 custodes with spears, 4 with shields, and then 5 of each sister, sword bolter and flamer. Against tyranids flamers would have been choice, that coupled with custodes not suffering -1 to hit when wounded means that this game could have been a bit different.

Would the custodians suffer the -1 to hit from being injured? Their card says other then the effects of battle scars they cannot be injured

@666thHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

They wouldn't, because that's an effect of being injured. Battle scars are only a thing in Spec Ops campaigns.

Great stuff Ash. Really hope you will continue to support the new Kill Team. :)

This was a great one, really cinematic feel to it and a close game. Talons are beasts

Instant like for the old Tyranids.

Thanks Ash and Owen!

Great game guys so looking forward to getting my pre order.

Yessss more! More! Love this content

If going against Custodes why, by the hive, did you not bring Genestealers?! Those guys are no joke!!! Getting their biomatter should/would be high priority!!!!

@johntailby74

2 жыл бұрын

Custards don’t wear jeans

@MrSagaTeller

2 жыл бұрын

@@johntailby74 Ultrasmurfs do tho

Great as everytime

Amazing as always

I was going to go to sleep, but classic tyranids !! I had to look at them, I be honest. Going to fall asleep before the end. But classic tyranids just tooo cool.

35:20 best a Termagaunt has ever felt!

Excellent. Thanks Ash

Loving the content!! 👍👍👍

another awesome vid! Love Kill Team. I was 100% Custodes was gonna walk all over the board but man... that was a nail biter.

Great discussion after the match

I'm enjoying all the videos since you switched over to being a Kill Team channel.

Nice to see you back playing a game with a real person.

Love seeing some more kill team! I think the new system is pretty awesome. I just am struggling to understand the interaction of cover and defense dice vs hits and crits.

Goblin Green flocked bases. The memories.

@shinankoku2

2 жыл бұрын

Ye Olde Skoole …

@joeflitton8034

2 жыл бұрын

I do like the aesthetic contrast. Muted, grimdark custodes on a barren wasteland. Goofy bright spike monsters in a summer meadow.

The only thing that would make Owen's Nids better would be if they were the OG plastics

Wow those are old Nids. At least 2ed maybe Rogue trader.

When using Talons, you can actually resolve the actions of the Custodes and the Sister of Silence in any order (for example; two shots from the Custodes, both charge, Sister fights first and gains +1 because she is attacking a unit that is in Engagement Range of a friendly unit, then Custodes fights)

Getting closer and closer to 100k Ash. Lets get it!

Please do heretic astartes! Great vids!

This what I’m talking about BOOOIIIEEEEE!!!!!! Next throw down some DG n chaos

yeeeeees! death gaurd pls~

Loving Owens nids

in that first crit with the custodes did you not apply the p1 per crit and remove his defence die?

I'm very new to Kill Team so I'm probably missing something. How are you running 2x Custodian Guard squads and a Sisters of Silance squad? In the Custodes section it states "A Talons of the Emperor kill team consists of 2 fire teams........"

You think Sisters of Silence would fare better if they had flamers instead of swords? Seems like natural response to bug infestation - KILL IT WITH FIRE 🤣🤣🤣

Owen's back! Huzzah

Custodes are like walking fortress.

Wouldn't the custodes have been able to fight , then fire twice since it's allowed to fight or fire twice ? But doesn't seem like there is a limit to it like space marines ?

Soo...Talons of the emperor vs ... actual talons

Did Death Guard happen yet? I'm super stoked for a DG batrep.

What do you think is the best Skirmish game around at the moment? I found the kill team model count just a little too low - I liked the larger company of Iron games of 25 points, that seemed about right for me, but the game isn't as popular any more. Do you have a favourite in the GW cannon at the mo? Warcry? Necrumunda? It's difficult as there are so many a the moment. Ty

Woo kill team

How can you field 4 custodians and 5 sisters, according to tje the compendium, that adds up to 3 fire teams

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the Matched Play roster, not the Kill Team.

Old school nids.

Not even taking 10 Flamer ladies smh

Kill team!!!

I think it's going to need an FAQ from GW but I have to agree with some of the other commenters that lurk doesn't work against models on a vantage point.

Cleanse the alien!

Love old nids. Bit confused on this one though. How are you taking 3 custodes fire teams? I can't find anything in the rule book that let's you take 4 guard AND 5 sisters. The kill team is made of 2 fire teams.

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames

2 жыл бұрын

You’re confusing the matched play roster with the kill team being deployed.

@delsdon6635

2 жыл бұрын

@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames ah, I see now. You've got 4 on your roster so they're available but only deployed 2

What rule lets custodes perform 2 shoot actions?

@Dracodomin

2 жыл бұрын

Peerless Warriors strategic ploy allows up to two fight and shoot actions that turn for all Custodes.

@Eson-tt9ek

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dracodomin thanks!

Wait you can use three squads for Tyranids?

Love seeing the classic Tyranids. Wew lad are those warriors ugly AF

I'm sorry but the deployment of those custodes was just shocking, just deploy everyone standing out in the open? Tyranids first activation and a sister gets blown off the board.

We are having a debate on discord with Lurk vs Vantage point shooting against concealed. Given VP changes your order for the shooting sequence to “Engage” we are feeling if you activated you only get the one die for Cover not the extra retention from lurk. Your thoughts?

@Dracodomin

2 жыл бұрын

RAW, I think you are right, but rules as intended, it makes no sense. Why would they write the conceal order stipulation on Lurk if it is never used because everything that would allow someone to shoot them changes their order?

@drew222k3

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dracodomin the portion of lurk with conceal would pertain to being shot at with a indirect weapon. As the indirect rule doesn’t change your order for the attack sequence and only “Engage” ordered models can use retained dice from cover, Lurk would allow for one retained die where you would normally get none.

@Dracodomin

2 жыл бұрын

@@drew222k3 I don't think I remember it stating anywhere that only "Engage" ordered models can use the retained dice? Also, Indirect only affects the "select valid target step" of the shooting phase, so they should get 2 dice from Lurk in that situation I believe.

@drew222k3

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dracodomin find a screen shot of line of sight section of rule book. Look to note in bold under cover

@drew222k3

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dracodomin “Note that an intended target that has a engage order can gain a defensive benefit for being in cover as specified in the shooting sequence on page 64-65”

38:18 on; didn’t you activate the shoot/fight twice ploy? You only fought that warrior once and shot that gaunt once then gave up your last AP without repeating an action, it seems.

@randombloke82

2 жыл бұрын

Same again at 40:19 - the Custodes could have taken another shot. Or did the ploy not get activated?

Can someone explain to me how Torrent works?

@bathtubanarchy

2 жыл бұрын

Afaik torrent has a range, measured from your initial target. You can attack enemies within that range in addition to the initial target.

@GundamReviver

2 жыл бұрын

As far as I understand it nearly the same as blast

@raedkhalil6937

2 жыл бұрын

Torrent is weird, all the targets need to be within the distance to the main target model but also to all of each other. So model A is the main target, models B, C, and D are all within 2 inches of A, but B and C are also within 2 inches of each other as well of within 2 inches of A. So you can target A, B and C but not D.

@BarcelPL

2 жыл бұрын

So what's the difference between Blast and Torrent?

@raedkhalil6937

2 жыл бұрын

@@BarcelPL Blast only has one check, the other models need to be within 2 inches of the main target. Torrent has an additional check. All the extra target need to also be within 2 inches of every single other target. So even if a model is within 2 inches of the main target they can end up not being an extra target.

Best BatRep so far. I don't think you can put misericordias on Custodes with spears though.

@twistedphoenix

2 жыл бұрын

Spears are the only ones who CAN take them

@kocashima

2 жыл бұрын

In Kill Team they can go on either spear or s+s Custodes models in 40k you can put them on a shield or spear guy however the shield guy will not be able to use the extra attack.

@tomekes5782

2 жыл бұрын

Thx, I made a pause on the vid showing that part of the compendium and read it again. You're right.

@twistedphoenix

2 жыл бұрын

@@kocashima it explicitly states, not equipped with a storm shield

@kocashima

2 жыл бұрын

@@twistedphoenix it states "each time the bearer fights, it can make 1 additional attack with this weapon unless it is also equipped with a storm shield"

You can’t deploy on Vantage points

@mattbrown7759

2 жыл бұрын

You definitely can deploy on vantage points. Check the wording again in the rulebook.

@ratz30

2 жыл бұрын

Just for reference do you have a page number for that? I missed it

@mattbrown7759

2 жыл бұрын

@@ratz30 Page 72, vantage point, first paragraph. If you read carefully, it states you can't set up or finish a move on high up points that aren't vantage points. Deploying on vantage points is legal.

those old nid models are awful lol

Errr-- Talons can only have TWO fire teams, not three .

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the Matched Play roster, not the Kill Team.

@0AbsolutZero0

2 жыл бұрын

@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames Straight from the compendium "A Talons of the Emperor kill team consists of 2 Fire Teams"

The symbols system is terrible. Its so pointless. A classic example of designing something without proving out the "why".

symbols that make no sens. If they at least matched the amount of sides on the polygons to match the numbers they represent... Nop. Someone's nephew designed this shit.

@frankmanha

2 жыл бұрын

I can not tell you how much this bothers me. Every logical piece of my brain says triangle is 3 but nooooo

@m.k.685

2 жыл бұрын

This triggers me every time