Take up for cricket is a massive issue in England. In parks you find basket ball courts tennis courts, but you never see any cricket nets. ECB need to invest in outdoor cricket nets that are accessible to everyone.

@dutchvanderlinde2488

4 жыл бұрын

like that here in australia to,maybe not as bad..kids rather come home from school etc and get on the xbox/youtube or watch netflix etc

@mansnotbot4160

4 жыл бұрын

You won't find nets in parks. But village cricket is massive and they're never far away. They all tend to have nets, and don't normally have issues with kids having a bowl. I agree though: it would be nice if they had nets in parks. Though methinks they may be used for clandestine drug deals 😏

@4thStump

4 жыл бұрын

@@mansnotbot4160 there are few cricket clubs near me, but ALL of them charge a lot to use them or have to be a member to use them. It would be nice even sports centres have outdoor nets with all weather net's.

@mansnotbot4160

4 жыл бұрын

@@4thStump Yeah, that's a problem. Cricket and tennis are stll, in many ways, elite sports in the UK.

@andrewnorman1830

4 жыл бұрын

Nasir Khan this happened to me I was one of only two trialists from a state school at county trials. The other one got in (because his brother was the county captain) and even thought got told and I believed I was easily good enough I didn’t even get an invite to winter nets. My parents weren’t best pleased 😂

‘And I ended up in cricket’ still humble Atherton

Excellent comments , I really related to Rob Keys comments about keeping kids involved in a game. We had one player who did opened the batting and bowling and we just did fielding, killed the game for everyone else. That is where coaches and parents need to step in. Its not just about winning a match, its about building confidence, experience and fun

If my Dad was an International test opener and just threw a ball for me to hit for hours without overegging the advice, I would be a very grateful son.

I can listen to Athers talk about stuff like this for hours. Key, too, is becoming a fantastic observer and commentator on the game. Just to add to some of the stuff that they were talking about with regard to the barriers to entry for cricket; all true, but I think there's an element of overthinking the game that blights a lot of the traditional setups for cricket. Yes, equipment is expensive but a normal bat with a tennis ball is what most kids in South Asia start with - it is how a Wasim Akram, a Sanath Jayasuriya, et al., started playing. Yes, you need space but as Athers alluded to, kids in the Caribbean and South Asia don't wait for the chance to play in an open field - sometimes it is finding any space and tinkering the games rules to suit that space, no matter how restrictive. In Sri Lanka, for instance, kids play a variation of cricket called One Bump. That variant discourages six-hitting (you are out if you hit a six), doesn't require you use full 22 yard pitch (half of that is fine), doesn't need a bowler to bowl with an action (standing over-the-arm is fine), and doesn't require fielders behind the stump (heck you don't even need a keeper). You can play the game in hallways, inside class-rooms, in one portion of a play ground. It encourages batters to learn how to hit the ball along the ground, and will involve every fielder because every fielder (even the ones patrolling the boundary line) is a close-catcher. Hours of fun. In a similar vein, I had Pakistani classmates growing up. They'd learn how to play tapeball cricket and bring that back to their school mates. If we had a larger playing area, sometimes we'd choose to play full scale cricket, but with a tape ball. Will One Bump or variations of cricket create international cricketers? Maybe; tapeball cricket gave us Wasim Akram and a cartel of Pakistani fastbowlers who learnt how to bowl fast without any coaching. Maybe not. But getting people to fall in love with the game is the first challenge. And cricket, I am sorry to say, is failing to meet this challenge with kids of this generation.

I grew up in India playing on streets with a tape ball and a plank of bat; Same story in Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, West Indies. It has not stopped me playing in decent-standard English leagues for twenty years now. Cricket does not have to be expensive. If England wants cricket to be a more popular sport than it is, it has to be taken away from stuffy, public school dominated club- and county set ups and opened up to people of all colours and classes who love and play the sport.

Really great chat on getting youngsters excited about cricket. However, one of the main problems, which they didn't mention for obvious reasons, is that cricket is not free to air anymore! (Highlights are not the same!) Not having it on terrestrial television and limiting the game to only those that can afford subscription TV has a far bigger effect than the cost of equipment. I am in that position - I remember watching the 2005 Ashes on Channel 5 and absolutely loving it - only since lockdown have I been able to watch a full test series for the second time in my life. I'm 22.

What a brilliant segment. I feel my country NZ has suffered greatly from telling our young bowlers to be accurate and not encouraging to bowl fast or to spin it hard. Plenty of 130kph bowlers but barely anything above that.

@nomoreluke

4 жыл бұрын

Mate... I played league cricket out in NZ for a season and there was some Polynesian-looking dude who played against us one weekend. I opened the batting and had a good look around before this guy ran into bowl. I looked back and saw the wicket keeper standing at least 1.5 pitch lengths back and I was thinking "What an idiot, the pitches aren't THAT hard". Anyway, this kid came into bowl and I genuinely never even saw it. I felt the first ball whistle past my face and I genuinely thought he'd bowled a beamer! I had a bit of a whinge to the umpire and he said "What are you talking about? He bounced you!". I never saw it out of his hand, never saw it hit the pitch - all I felt was it whoosh past my face and then slap HARD into the keeper's gloves about 30 yards away. Haha. One of my close mates routinely bowls at 85mph (135kph) and I faced him hundreds of times but this guy was noticeably faster than that. I have no idea what the speed of his bowling was but it MUST have been around the 90mph mark, maybe even a little more. I don't think I ever saw one ball that he bowled and he had me out bowled after about 4 examples of me just prodding the bat out and hoping for the best! Haha. No idea what his name was but I honestly thought he was going to be a world superstar!!

@kanwarpreetsinghbrar5450

4 жыл бұрын

Lokie Ferguson is fast

@DavidUKesb

4 жыл бұрын

Same in England.

@hariharanvenkataramani7311

4 жыл бұрын

Bond. Milne. Ferguson. Bracewell. Aside from that man Wagner who can bowl short pitched fast medium for long Test match spells!

Athers is the sanest voice in the world cricket.

@lsimmo78

4 жыл бұрын

Which is amazing because as captain he saw one of the most craziest periods of English cricket.

@bobwillis3023

3 жыл бұрын

@@lsimmo78 today was pretty crazy..

Keys is expounding the West Indies philosophy of cricket from the 1980s. Listen to Rob!

from what I've seen through life, with kids main issue batting is the size of the bat, its nearly always too big for them (size/weight). That is what normally negatively affects a kids grip and technique.

I love this so genuine and Encouraging what we need for English cricket

england has turned around this game. great bowling by broad. this is what we want to see. competitive cricket at its best.

I'd grown up in Ireland playing the Gaelic sport of Hurling. When I moved to the UK I played football after school but one day the Cricket team where short one and the PE teacher said he'd give me a Mars bar if I filled in. I was given some pads and very used bat, not knowing the rules of cricket I was told to just block and run when the other guy told me to. So, much to everyone's annoyance, I just blocked it for what must have been a very frustrating hour of one run per over cricket. I couldn't understand why everyone was so very frustrated at me as I obtusely just blocked ball after ball. 😅 ...never got that Mars bar. 🤔

Michael Atherton Nasser Hussain David llyod commentary bring wonderful and amazing experience in cricket

Was never Key's biggest fan as a player but as a pundit I LOVE THE BLOKE!

Atherton is just incredible. By far the best cricket pundit across the globe.

To be fair in my experience the best way to become a professional cricket is make sure your father or uncle were one. The second best is to make sure that at least one of your cricket coaches is well connected and popular with coaches employed by a county team, for example Surrey or Yorkshire. Of course plenty of natural talent and learned ability is essential, indeed taken for granted, but this alone is highly unlikely to get the individual player into the professional circuit. Like so many aspects of life professional sport is very much to do with who you know, rather then what you can do or what you know. Attending a top public school or university with good contacts within the cricketing establishment also greatly helps. There is of course little point in being superman on a cricket pitch if no one of any importance notices you, so join the best club you can, and get your parents/father to hustle like your own personal agent, from no more than 7 years of age, and you might just make it. My own sons are very good players with a fair degree of natural talent, who both have well connected coaches. However even then I doubt very much that either of them will make the professional grade, and I tell them so. I tell them the truth, however keen they are at playing the game. To be a first pick for your local first team or university is a massive achievement in itself, anything else is a bonus. That the purpose of playing any sport is to gain the opportunity to excel at something and so the confidence that such an achievement can give the individual, which they can carry forward into all other aspects of their life, including academic studies. To always do their best in every endeavour they undertake, even if doing so may seem to be reasonably pointless at the time. As a coach and umpire myself I have come across many talented young players with their heads well and truly in the professional clouds. These types often give up on cricket and other sports, as soon as they suffer any setbacks, a girl friend arrives, or they realise that they are highly unlikely to see themselves on the TV sporting an England veste. Ambition can in itself get you somewhere, but not always were you really want to go. Especially sports like Cricket, and Golf are those that can be played and enjoyed well into your later days. I have known 90 year olds who still play Cricket and Golf on a regular basis. Only last reason I umpired a 2nd team game where the 90 year old slow bowler got a fivefor, against a team averaging around 35 years old, and apparently that was not particularly unusual. To sum up. SOD THE ENGLAND team, and that of the counties. They are both doing perfectly well with the system just as it is. As a fan of Cricket, and not so much a Cricket fan, what I want to see is more people playing cricket, simply for the sake of playing cricket, not so they can get themselves on the TV, while possibly wasting many important years with their heads in the professional clouds. This delusional thinking not only can, but DOES mess up many young people's lives, especially young footballers. More public nets, and local teams, spread more evenly around the country, is all I ask for, the cost of which is tiny.

@MrDunkycraig

4 жыл бұрын

Gary Powell im with you on this, in fact take it further. Get into a private school it works wonders for your opportunities! If you go to a state school your toast. You can out perform a private school player, be fitter better attitude but it wont matter. Ive seen it with my brother and now my two sons. My youngest had the best figures at under 15 county level around played minor counties at15/16 and is only 20 now. Hes out bowled pros in his local premier league for 3 years and can adapt from 3 day to 20/20. Yet county coaches barely look at him over poorer ability kids but from the right school.

@garypowell1540

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrDunkycraig. Cricket coaches are professionals, and for many of them coaching is their only source of income. They work mostly part time for particular public schools, clubs, and country cricket facilities, which sounds OK, as far as it goes, as the annual fees for club membership is rarely over £150. The problems come as they can charge between £20- £50 per hour for one to one coaching lessons, which is a tidy sum, and no prizes for guessing what sorts of parents can afford that sort of money, especially on a regular basis. This may not be considered bribery or corruption, however these well connected coaches have a very large incentive to keep their own personal gravy train moving along the track, by putting forward their best paying customers. I have come across these kinds many times, indeed you can spot them remarkably easily, if you know what to look for. Don't get me wrong many of them are very good coaches, but money drives everything that they do. Some of these guys seem like they are doing it all for the love of the game, but they can make up to £100,000 per year if they play their cards right, much of it in tax free cash. Much of it ends up over the pavilion bar, but easy come easy go. This is also why sons of former professional or otherwise cricketers always get the real breaks as they know how the system works. Greasing up certain people at the right times, is what it is all about in all professional sport to a lesser or greater extent. There is of course exceptions to the rule, but they are few and far between, and are usually fast bowlers.

@brenthargreaves7085

4 жыл бұрын

He should move to New Zealand!

The greatest game ever-cricket.

Atherton is such a delight to listen to

Wonderful service to cricket, some great insights

All this advice will be crucial for next generation 's cricketer love you all sir, from india. Sir,make a session on a young student who are fan of cricket commentator specially English commentary How he correct his English for making a world class commentator and a lecturer

I was a leg spinner myself and the biggest problem was that I would leak runs if I didn't get the perfect ball, I remember I was never given the ball in a tight situation coz I would get hit but there weren't many overs that I bowled and didn't get a wicket, most of my stats were 3 over 20-30 runs and 2-3 wickets but the coach and captain never trusted me and it's very true that you need to have a great coach who would understand this, there were guys who were opening batsmen and they would bowl a few off spin overs and dont give too much run and they would get more overs than I did

No backyard in houses these days is killing the very cricket we used to have in our days. God it's a battle in the backyard not just game of cricket and for fun and ecstasy rather than money or perks.

We need more and more nets in the parks so kids can play cricket too

Mike Atherton is so intelligent.

In the end it's a debate between natural flow of bat against conventional coaching..Smith is a prime example ...just let the kids enjoy and play while much later tweak the technique abit but not he natural flow or action in bowling aswell

Great knowledge

This deserves a million views. 👍👍

even though this is a cricket discussion, this can easily pass for a philosophical discussion as well..

Loved this

I know I've said this before, but socio-economic factors are more prevalent now than maybe when I was growing up! The videos from the kids were great, but only one being street-based. How many in the current English team went to state school? What was the % during the 80s? 90s? 00s? Those "maverick" match winning types aren't going to come from private schools where they've had an ex-county player coach them since being small. The whole point of the ECB going with Sky was to use the money to progress the game, particularly in inner-city, low income areas. After 14yrs, how many players from those areas are 1st class players? Do their schools play? Is cricket their favourite sport? 🤔🤔🤔

@vatsaldoshi3291

4 жыл бұрын

Is cricket dying in England and European Union?

@vatsaldoshi3291

4 жыл бұрын

Because I think this sport is only supported by Indians

@martinharvey3990

4 жыл бұрын

@@vatsaldoshi3291 No. It's not dying, but needs to reach out to low income kids.

@vatsaldoshi3291

4 жыл бұрын

@@martinharvey3990 Which is the Preferred sport among British Cricket or Football? You can't see the passion of football by the English Youth in Cricket,is it so?

@martinharvey3990

4 жыл бұрын

@@vatsaldoshi3291 Football is the biggest sport in the UK by a long way, but the ECB needs to work harder on kids of colour, which is basically what this video is about.

Superb show

I wanted to play cricket growing up, but family couldn't afford the kit, or to take me to the nearest club. I played football, all day, every day. Didn't need anything special for it. But, wish I had the opportunity to play. Not to be professional or anything, just to play.

our cricket club had ex england captain mike gatting

Have to replicate street games of old - with kids bowling and batting all the time in small games Coaches are unable to see that - same with football and rugby, small games, constant involvement is key

28:40 rob key telling bare kids they can’t bat

There’s no point sending ex cricketers to a state school to play quick cricket for half an hour. Even if kids get interested there’s no way for them to play.

Hi Good Evening, How r you, , When I practice,

Robert was a burger eating champion :-)

But i must admitt it would be very intimidating to seat & chat wit such intellects , professioals& foes"!. Lol"!.

It annoys me when I hear....we have to make it fun for x..For me growing up the best thing about cricket and why I loved playing it was the camaraderie, the team spirit. For me, this is the thing that has to be elaborated to the younger generation

Please allow all videos of tips in indian country please sir

@Tales-of-Tails542

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for like

@Tales-of-Tails542

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers

This is brilliant...let kids whack the ball and bowl it fast or spin it. Keep the joy and then work on the nuances of the game later..

How many state school kids in the England team? Remember the ECB said they were going to use the money from sky to take the game to the whole country. How is that going?

Shame none of these ever got to win an ashes series.

Tips for young cricketers? I'm picking up tips and I'm 39!

Just one more point. Although Robert is correct in saying that being the parent of a kid playing cricket at all levels costs money, and takes hard work and commitment on the parents side, I would not wish for this to be overemphasized. Cricket equipment is less relatively expensive than it has ever been, and there is second hand stuff available if you enquire to find it, which costs next to nothing, or indeed nothing in some cases. The cost of transport to games, even if some distance can also be shared with other parents, by taking turns. If you don't own a car chances are some other parent will gladly do all of the running around for you, if you ask nicely enough. What can add up is the cost of individual practice sessions with some coaches. But I do this myself, so no cost there, most are unnecessary and are not expected. As hobbies go Cricket is not particularly expensive. Like most things you can always throw more money at it, but this is very unlikely to make any real difference as to how well your child plays. Although a little bribery, corruption, or sucking up to the right people may help a little, as far as the coaches spending a little more attention to your sprog rather then someone else's. I often end up umpiring or scoring games so also get a free lunch, and something to do while being there. Of course you are going to be severely challenged to be an effective cricket parent, if you are on the dole, but you can achieve much on the cheap if you genuinely need to do so. My 16 year old has his own part time job, and has recently purchased his own new bat helmet and pads. In other words make the lazy sod earn his own cash, and so earn his own way, if at all possible. Also look at these things as an investment. At least you know where the buggers are. The cost of not knowing could be a lot more expensive in all respects in both the short and longer run. At a junior and juvenile level, if you think hard and work hard at it the total cost per year could be as little as £150, which should not exactly break the bank.

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Is this the same Aussies Rob key who was smashed for more than 100 runs in his 10 overs against historical chase of 434 by south africa?

@0Zakster

4 жыл бұрын

No, that was Hogg. Rob Key is an England batsman.

@RP-kr2mg

4 жыл бұрын

@@0Zakster That's definitely not Brad Hogg lol

@0Zakster

4 жыл бұрын

@@RP-kr2mg What I meant was that Brad Hogg was the one who got hit for 100 runs. The OP confused Brad Hogg with Rob Key.

@Uppernorwood976

4 жыл бұрын

Are you thinking of Mick Lewis?!

You mean atherton gives good advice and the other 2 listen to an actual great player

@toddy3004

4 жыл бұрын

Better than you ever will be mate

who farted at 7:01?

@kanwarpreetsinghbrar5450

4 жыл бұрын

@@jadknew lol

I think it is unfair to cover the stumps using my body just when the bowler bowls so i dont do that but real pros today are all covering the stumps when the bowler starts walking in

Who was Atherton's father, and which football team did he play for?

"Don't listen to us!"

First

Early

@joeproctor2774

4 жыл бұрын

Same

Keep away the youngsters from watching T20; only then you can able to make them better cricketer.

Why the Poms are sporting long hair?? New trend ??like the annoying beards which Indian cricketers sporting

@pcoyne260

4 жыл бұрын

None of the England players can have their hair cut because they’re not allowed out of the bio bubble

@anshveersingh728

4 жыл бұрын

Why is the beard annoying to you or the hair style?They can do whatever they want😅

@TheManWithNoName786

4 жыл бұрын

Due to lockdown and no access to a barber for the players yet.

@anishmehra9012

4 жыл бұрын

During lockdown these broadcasters obviously had a haircut apart from Putin,,why couldn't the cricketers ,,Make sense guys

@Abdul__Hadi

4 жыл бұрын

beard in annoying way ! grow up man , they seem much cool

Rob Key, I actually really like you a lot, but..........there has always been an enormous parental fiscal and time responsibility to get your kids to where they need to be around the country for all sports. It's has always been that way and will given that catering for people "out of borough" is largely forgotten. Just saying lad.

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