maybe not as playable aircraft but as strategic targets. B-52, E-2's, C-130 would be good AI targets for strategic value

@swarv5027

2 ай бұрын

Yh they would, but adding aircraft like those, they would have to revamp EC maps so it can play like Gunship IV. That’s how war thunder Top tier should be like with objectives that require aircraft to carry out specific roles.

@Shooter10m

2 ай бұрын

@@swarv5027 they should give cas and sead aircraft a lot more targets. That’s part of the reason people don’t grind them in air rb and ruin peoples experiences in tank rb.

@DMV_Rosco

2 ай бұрын

Gunship IV was the best reference I've ever heard used. Even if you could play these aircraft and get points by doing their specific abilities, ie b52s carpet bombing larger bases or even using the cruise/guided air to ground missles for larg targes or even underground bunkers which could be spotted by scout aircraft roles and even e2 Hawkeye or awacs players could get points over time for scouting aircraft or a slight percentage of assists with scouted aircraft destroyed for a more passive relaxing playstyle so not everyone has to be a try hard to level up. And even air to ground scouter aircraft can assist bombers in finding hidden targets and get a percent from that. Sead aircraft/loadouts would be great and could have multiple different abilities with vast playstyles since the come and many shapes sizes and specs. And maybe even in sim there could be a pilot recovery via helicopter that you could skip and still fly while someone recovers your last pilot and maybe get some sl points or even rp for both you and much more for the person that recovered it. And jammers would have a great place after that because many large bomers or awacs and even smaller fighters and sead craft would too making their job less stressful and making bvr a challenge since it's gonna dominate at its current state

@DMV_Rosco

2 ай бұрын

Bombers would also have an incredible amount of countermeasures too and ircms

@DMV_Rosco

2 ай бұрын

You could also get points or a kill point multiplier for being in the vicinity of a bomber to encourage escorts

why they dont add the ac130? -it has the most flares of all aircrafts -it carried 16 hellfire rockets - 102 mm M102 howitzer - 40 mm Bofors cannon - AN/AAQ-24 Directed Infrared Countermeasures System

@dukn

2 ай бұрын

thats exactily why

@TinyBearTim

2 ай бұрын

Sooo don’t give it loads of flares then

@Itswinever7

2 ай бұрын

@@TinyBearTim like you want

@YF23BlackWidowll

2 ай бұрын

@@duknit wouldn’t be OP

@LeLe-pl8jq

2 ай бұрын

AC-130 would have American pilots crying and Russian tanks laughing

Would be nice but possibly wouldnt work with the current meta Edit 2: then enemy fighters could attempt to shoot down the cruise missiles which could and should also be rewarded.

@Bigboyjarvis

2 ай бұрын

actually yeah that is a good idea, they should reward players for shooting down enemy munitions

Depending on the variants, there is a capacity for the B-52 to carry various air to surface missiles, anti-ship missiles, and guided bombs as well. So this can stand in in addition to the massive bombloads. This also holds true for many of the other cold war bombers and interdictor aircraft.

Could work as the replacement for Nuke Canberra

Early b52 with its tail gunner

@princessapplestrach6327

2 ай бұрын

It was a vulcan 20mm iirc

@charliedontsurf334

2 ай бұрын

They had gunners into the 1990's. The ones that lost their guns were said to be "Bobbitted." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt

Nice bomber, I would like to have it in game with B-1 and Tu-160

@ArmUkraine

2 ай бұрын

Nah. Blackjack and bone are too modern. We need backfire, Vulcan and B52

@perfectcell1157

2 ай бұрын

​@@ArmUkraine not the Tu22 M backfire but the original Tu 22 or the booze carrier as its known

@ArmUkraine

2 ай бұрын

@@perfectcell1157 fair

I’ve been waiting for the b-36 for 1 and a half years

it would be nice i think we should get on with modern planes

@dragongod8481

2 ай бұрын

the B-52 is not modern at all

@Shooter10m

2 ай бұрын

@@dragongod8481 Hes saying that he thinks they should focus on modern varients of aircraft. Not aircraft from the 50s.

@niceburger6479

2 ай бұрын

​@@Shooter10m thats the oppusite we need more aircraft from the 60's,60's in game

@Shooter10m

2 ай бұрын

@@niceburger6479 I’m telling him what the other comment was saying. Not what my opinion is on what they should add.

@niceburger6479

2 ай бұрын

@@Shooter10m ok

I think these kind of aircraft would be amazing as AI targets or escort objectives. If people actually got their hands on this, they would just sit in orbit and watch something suspicious on their second monitor in the meantime.

i think it would be an interesting nuclear bomber for ground rb, but that it spawns at high altitude where current SAM's can't reach it... and where it could be downed only by a jet that is present in battle at the time if it manages to scramble in enough time.

@Russian_Dogg

2 ай бұрын

Nah make it be able to be shot by aa

Yes is the answer, as long as they added F-16, f15 fighter jets, they need to add bombers now.

The spawn calling for something like this would have to be well above 10,000m to even have a chance especially in higher tier matches. Be far enough from fighters, have countermeasures, big enough maps to even be viable.

@fabihubi7039

2 ай бұрын

The aircraft these bombers would have to face either rince them at those altitudes with radar guided missiles and/or have such a superior climb rate that they would reach them regardless

Like the Lancaster and B-29, it's a sitting duck. Doubly so considering it will face air to air missiles.

I think Vulcan has a place in War Thunder as it could be operated like it was IRL in the Falklands conflict, performing long range SEAD missions to take out enemy SPAA and SAM sites and then a second wave, B52 etc(which would arrive later as Vulcan is faster and flies higher) could come in with their massive bomb loads and there’s no SPAA to protect the ground targets

I think it could be added at 10.7 for starters with the first cariant of the B 52 which had a radar guided gattling gun on the Rear for self defence, Aircraft around this BR already go past Mach 1.0 and have radar guided missiles, The B 52 with it's Tail gunner will be able to defend itself from rear aspect shots and it would be a massive target for the enemy in return but it won't be an easy picking either.

@jtl05

2 ай бұрын

It has 0 chance at 10.7 even at 9.0 its a sitting duck.

@StealthCloudchaser

2 ай бұрын

@@jtl05 way too low

@kurnass2000

2 ай бұрын

B52 should be 8.3, it can be balanced first gajin needs to stop being lazy and put the b29 at 6.7 and tu-4 at 7.0

@StealthCloudchaser

2 ай бұрын

@@kurnass2000 They did once, People would climb up to altitude and none would ever get close to them so no, 10.7 for the B 52 is more than reasonable.

@kurnass2000

2 ай бұрын

@@StealthCloudchaserThe b29 would be balance at 6.7 there are jets lower than that br, the ta-152 exists and other Japanese interceptors they can kill it and 50 cals are weak while the tu-4 could be 7.0 so it always faces jets and it can die, how is it fair that a tu-4 has to fight air to air missles and me 163 You clearly don’t have top tier, the b52 would be useless at 10.7, it would face f14a and get phoenixed and plenty of jets can gun it down. It should be 8.3,-8.7 😢where it faces mig-21s, and early jets that can climb to it perfectly fine, it shouldn’t be higher than 9.0

i think it should have no tail gunner but great counter measures and ecm forcing jets to get within 1.5 km of it. this would give it a good defense since it would force jets to leave the deck which would also spice up the meta a bit since top tier has been played the same for the past year. what would be very cool is if the ecm was good enough to allow a small area around it to be safer for ally fighters which would bring more team strategy into the game

I really hope we get strategic bombers or at least something like the tu-22 blinder or tu-16 , b-66 destroyer.

they should add the f117 nighthawk

@ilias-mu4vt

2 ай бұрын

how they have no data on its stealth characteristics

@ArmUkraine

2 ай бұрын

@@ilias-mu4vtit is the most stealthy Aircraft ever

@user-lc5sr6mq4r

2 ай бұрын

@@ArmUkraine I hope thats sarcasm. Tech advanced A LOT in the last 45 years and theres good reason the F117 is retired from active service.

@fireextinguisher7404

2 ай бұрын

Just has guided bombs and a laser pointer, no counter measures or anything

@ArmUkraine

2 ай бұрын

@@user-lc5sr6mq4r why? It is the most stealthy. It’s just not very useful which is why it was taken out of frontline service. Which is another reason you show lack of knowledge, it has not been retired

Strategic bombers and AWACS can be target objectives in potential new game modes

I think it would be cool to see it as the nuke carrier. I think anything else, it would be OP or useless

I have an idea for a game mode where players play as bombers and there’s other players to protect the bombers, vice versa, and destroying target on the map

if it where playable, we would need huge runways for sim

Only if they can spawn at like 50 or 60,000 feet and be able to climb to like 80,000 feet. Even still, they'll be picked off so easily.

Looks good

Necessita de um novo modo.... algo com mapas gigantesco, onde bombardeiro teriam mais chances de sobreviver. Mas ainda vou sonha com um novo modo para aumenta duração das partidas, e ajuda entrada da veículos como f117, b52... etc

I think supersonic bombers could work, Hustlers or Blinders or Vigilantes.

Give them really good jammers. In the Vietnam Era, the fighters attacked them with guns from the sides. Their jammers were too good for missiles of the era, and the tail gun was too dangerous.

it just does not work, only option would be carrying smaller payloads and a lower BR for these things. US air force got absolutely bodied in Vietnam btw, +10k lost aircraft for the USA versus +1k for Vietnam

Id love it but it be pointless all the SuperSonics would steal the bases, for gaijin to give us cooler higher tier bombers, they’d have to rework the bases. Whether make them respawn quicker or add the air field as a target in RB like AB is

@timb3499

2 ай бұрын

The bases need a rework regardless. To many people going for too few bases.

@HankyInTheTanky

2 ай бұрын

@@timb3499 100% agree with you it was nice right before the F-111 bases seemed to respawn almost right away, after 111, you’d be lucky if the game didn’t end before they respawned

fun for sim

I dont see why they couldn't be with larger maps. Just add an objective or incentive to keep bombers alive, right now they're unimportant to gameplay in air realistic matches.

Only if we get enduring confrontation rb back. Sim is too restrictive and inaccessible for most of the community.

Oh man, B-1B pleeeeaase!!!!

An early version at like 9.3 ish would be great

@shokhrukhmukhitdinov8970

2 ай бұрын

nah 9.3 is too much, considering that you are gonna face strelas and other spaas on top tiers. 8.3-8.7 is fine, because it was produced during the early 50s with m48 tanks

tu 22 and tu 16 or tu 160 and b1 they fit into the game better

It's pronounce bomb-mer. The 2nd b is silent.

There is 0 usage to bombers in WT The game right now only rewards fast and maneuverable jets

I want Vulcan

Can we get the B-36 first

Bud needs missiles beacause he sufers from chronic skill issue

9.3 should be perfect

Doubt with the actual game....thing is made for WWII vehicles,maps are actually very small to even what we already have...if everything can basically hit you the moment you take off,imagine a B52/Tu95....

I want an ac 130 in warthunder

Alot of poeple who want these Mid-Late cold war and Modern Bombers forget what they are playing. War thunder at high BRs is not the same as low tiers, you can't just fly higher to bomb bases safely, Supersonic aircraft can easily climb and catch up with you, kill you before your AI gunners can do anything and fly back to kill fighters, even before you drop your bombs. This doesn't take in account heat seeking, radar lock missiles. These types of vehicles don't have a place in the gameplay loop. And in GRB a Single B52 would be able to bomb all 3 points with High yield bombs and have some left over to bomb the base, of course if it doesn't get shot down by SPAA. There's a reason why all the bomber lines currently end with heavy fighters and ground attackers, they can actually kill fighters and bomb bases, Modern Bombers can't.

Playable probably not fun, ai target in assault arcade could be good

add TU-95 give it cruise missiles :) problem solved

isnt the a-10 already in the game? 6:31

@lars9966

2 ай бұрын

he means the a10C

as ai sure but until then nah

could be added?? yes, players would use it?? no

In a bigger game mode as a2a refueling yes, otherwise no

B-52s and Tu-95s as AI planes on EC maps having specific targets/areas to bomb and then depart the battle would be fine. As a player driven plane... Not so much. ECM yes, chaff/flares yes, tail 20mm radar controled, yes. Where are you going to land? The landing distance for one of these planes is enormous as is the take-off run. Untill Gaijin makes MUCH larger maps with better target dispersion a player B-52/Tu-95/Vulcan is not feasable.

Just simple and very logic answer; NO!

@Paganmine-WT

2 ай бұрын

L

It wouldn’t be hard to add it. It would just require gayjin to INVEST IN NEW SCENARIOS and BATTLE TYPES. We know they won’t do that because they’re lazy and uninspired.

I think War Thunder needs more nuke planes. Playing with Jaguar and Su-7 on Top tier is💩

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@usmcpound

2 ай бұрын

Nobody cares