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@mariagoncalves5520

8 ай бұрын

Si ya vi su programa de Ana Karenina. Incluso me rei mucho con sus observaciones. Thank you

literally spent the last 3 months reading the book and just finished last weeknd.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Congrats!

@shingaling3315

Жыл бұрын

Was it good lol

@omarandrade6002

10 ай бұрын

Same. It will take some time to get the dots to connect and form a solid opinion. My first take is that I enjoyed Anna Karenina more. I preferred Levin to Pierre. However, Pierre and Natasha's all or nothing approach to marriage was quite beautiful and I shared it with my wife.

First time I've ever been upset about not knowing about a KZread channel earlier. Thank you for your words and ideas that are here to help us have new thoughts.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

This is one of the best comments we’ve ever received. Thank you so much!

This could almost work as an audio commentary for the 1966-67 USSR film series. You guys put in stellar work

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Ha, that’s funny!

Wow, "my definition of living is when we look into others, before we look into ourselves" AND "what sustains your happiness": as profound as the book itself. Ive just came to the end of the podcast and it was a real privilege listening to it and somehow it was like having a wonderful conversation 🙂 please keep making more podcasts - I'm sure I speak for many others when I say that they are greatly appreciated. Thank you again, from 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👋

I wish more people would have watched this! I really think you should re-release it, but maybe in shorter chunks like you did for Anna Karenina. And title each video like "Anna Scherer's Party: War and Peace Book 1," and have the videos around 10 to 20 min. Then Re-release the sections serially. I don't know anything about KZread monetization but that must make more sense viewing and monetary wise? You put so much work into this study of the best book ever written and I know it would be another massive undertaking in editing it down again but it's a shame only 148 people viewed it.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

It actually is just a private video. I’ll release this to the public on Thursday and maybe if I get some free time in the future I can check into smaller bits! I’ll probably release it to Patrons for ad free small chunks. Thanks for the kind words

every time i finish a part i will come here sit and listen to you guys talk, yes, i am gonna do that.

I love this analysis. im reading the novel in French so the video fits me perfectly for checking if im understanding correctly

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

I hope you enjoy the book!

Amazing, thank you so much for putting so much time and effort into analysing this beautiful book and making this video. I'm stoked to watch it!

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

I hope you enjoy

I just have to say, I could not have finished this book/novel/epic/history textbook/ philosophy discussion by Leo Tolstoy. Everytime I read a part, I listened to your summary and thoughts on it. This channel got me through book just as much as the translator, and I can't wait to watch your other videos.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Very kind of you to say! Glad it could help!

I read the book through a period of 8 months and it was a wonderful experience. The final epilogue hit me the most, the idea of free will being another force of nature and we shouldn't be bothering whether we have free will or not was a revelation for me. It was a problem for deterministic world which I couldn't wrap my head around. Well, I am still processing the ideas in this book and might find some fallacies later, but, as for now Tolstoy has done a good job on foolproofing his theories, even the ones I disagree the most - say, 'the one with religion always find its way to take root in whatever the new law of the world' argument. Also, I liked that when Tolstoy remarked when Nikolai did good for the serfs he wasn't doing for them he was doing it for himself, since he cannot develop unless his companions and servants develop. 'If you want to do good in a deterministic world, be selfish' is one of my greatest takeaway from the book. We see those who seek glory and try to do selfless heroic deeds for the country and all just to hinder the progression/betterment of society and contributing nothing. Well, these are the things that came top of my head and I could go on for hours like this. I came back to this video after almost every book and it was really nice to see your opinions on the matter. I get it very much that you find yourself nitpicking the book so much but knowing that it is good and end up saying nothing good about it at all. Good video

im watching this video as im reading through war and peace. it feels great to finish a couple of parts and then listen to you guys discuss it. it definitely makes it easier and more fun to read the book :)

This is awesome! Thank you so much. Your personalities just make it come alive!

Guys this is awesome. I camping in here for the next couple months.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for watching

Thank y'all so much for doing this! I'm reading War and Peace for the first time and this video is adding so much depth to the experience. Well done!

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! I hope you enjoy the book 👍

This is a great companion! Just finished Book One, and it's a lot to keep track!

It's so cool to hear the speculation as you're moving through this. I finished reading it in August and am loving revisiting it through you're channel.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

👍 I love listening to others thoughts too. Thanks for listening

Took me a month, but I finally made it through the entire video. Excellent analysis as always! I wish Tolstoy had chosen to omit the last section, but regardless it's still in my top ten. It's been almost a year since I finished reading War and Peace, but it's still stuck with me.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

That’s an interesting point as I reflect back on the book too. We almost needed an epilogue for our own experiences 🤔

Really enjoyed watching this thank you!! I don’t have any friends who read the same books as i do so it is nice to hear some fun reviews

Thank you for doing this! Watching your videos while reading Dostoevsky has made me want to read every novel you have made a video for! I’m loving War and Peace.

Thank you for this amazing video!

@TheCodeXCantina

9 ай бұрын

Our pleasure!

You helped me alot in my reading project thx

This is exactly what i wanted! On book three now!

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words!

Great video guys! This was so helpful to watch part by part and get a new perspective while reading! Thanks! Are you going to do this type of video for Ulysses? Would be nice ;)

@TheCodeXCantina

11 ай бұрын

A chapter by chapter supercut? Yeah we will

You gentlemen, are God's among book nerds

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

You’re going to make us blush

@chickencharlie1992

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCodeXCantina Yes. YES!

this is gonna take a few days to watch but i'm looking forward to your thoughts. incredible novel.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate you spending time with it. Was a very long project 😂

Great analysis. I love the little details you guys know, Russian society and culture at that time, the way you provide context for what's happening. I just finished it, and so much of this was lost on me as I was reading.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. We love history so we’re glad to share what we know and our view. Thanks for watching

ill finish it in this month this is more then a masterpiece ❤❤

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Woo

Excelente analisis

Just finished reading The novel over the last 3 weeks and very much enjoyed it. Like nothing else I've read before.

I’m about 1/2 way through the book. Most beautiful book ever! Anna K was my favorite but this might surpass. Thanks for the video.

I'm finally reading W&P, something I planned to do over 50 years ago. As a woman pushing 70, I loved that you guys echoed my first impressions of some of the characters...spoiled frat boys, and that I also called Pierre a doofus! I'm almost two thirds through it, and it was soooo worth the wait!

I think Tolstoy' point about the war is that the Russians were defending their homes and thus had a different sentiment from the invading French. This is not universally true, but often the defenders fight harder and more self-sacrificingly (unless they lose hope), while the morale of the invader often starts to crumble once the invasion bogs down. We saw the same in WWII.

I've been reading War and Peace the last two weeks and following along with this video and other guides as well. I just finished Book 11. I just wanted to say that this video has been great and really insightful, allowing me to stop, pause and review the book I just read before moving on. Thank you for the thorough discussion.

@TheCodeXCantina

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. We put a lot of love and effort into it so I’m glad it could be helpful

@jbriaz

8 ай бұрын

@@TheCodeXCantina I just finished the book. To the discussion at the end about where this book ranks, I think for me it is objectively the best literary novel I have ever read. But it is not my favorite literary novel. I think both statements can be true -- recognizing the greatness of the book without calling it your favorite.

@TheCodeXCantina

8 ай бұрын

@@jbriaz Absolutely, since these videos are snapshots in time, it's worth adding that I have continued to return to and think about this book months later. It's clearly been more influential than I could see at the time.

Bookmark - 23:06 I’ve just finished Volume 1, Part 1 of W&P and I’m so glad I stumbled across this video! Listening to your in depth discussion regarding the events and ideas has really enriched my reading experience. Will definitely pop in and listen at the end of each part / book / volume. Thanks! 😊

@TheCodeXCantina

7 ай бұрын

I hope you enjoy the book!

Just starting a re-read and will dip in and out of this video. I really enjoyed it 1st time round, but that was many years ago. Went with the Briggs translation.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think I’ve given that translated a shot yet

@AngryPict

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCodeXCantina my method of choosing translations is: pick a few copies of a book, read the same page in each, see which I think I can tolerate for 1300 pages or so. I'm not getting too bogged down on how accurate a translation is if it becomes irritating to read after a page.

Had a pause after reading book one and two of the book, just refreshing the plot to resume my journey.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

👍

coming back to this after each "part" i finish 👍

@TheCodeXCantina

9 ай бұрын

🙏

I have a different interpretation of the Rostow-situation with the thief. In my (german) translation I got the feeling that Rostow was very annoyed by the fact that his evening got ruined due to the thief’s actions. How does he make the problem go away? With money, which he has plenty of. I think Tolstoi wanted to show his immaturity here, and he gets into monetary trouble shortly later as well. Just another thought to consider, hope you might find it interesting!

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

appreciate it. Thanks for sharing

"My favorite character was Pierre, but the one I shed tears for when he passed away was Andrew. ❤️ I also want to express my heartfelt gratitude for the exceptional in-depth analysis of this magnificent book. Greetings from Thailand!"

@charlieroberts5961

11 ай бұрын

Spoiler alert, thanks lol

@ryancarter2542

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the spoiler

Thanks!

@TheCodeXCantina

5 ай бұрын

Thanks so much

I just started this book and got to chapter 10 I was ready to quit. I might actually make it now. Thank you

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Hope you do!

Finally started my Briggs translation w the help of a friend in England who has just reread it 😮 Thanks, fellas 😎☘️☺️

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Nooice! I hope you love it

@bighardbooks770

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCodeXCantina Cant put it down

Now that you’ve done one big book, how about trying ‘The Magic Mountain’ by Mann.

Thank you from 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙂👋

this is cool

@TheCodeXCantina

8 ай бұрын

🙏

PS - If you do ‘The Magic Mountain’ use the Woods translation.

appreciate this work. Can you help me find the part in the book which has Pierre's discourse on alms for the poor? It something along the lines of that if you help everybody you see (eg beggars), you'll never have time to tackle larger societal issues (systematic fixes). Any ideas? Was intrigued when I read it but lost the reference and have been unable to rest until I find it...

@TheCodeXCantina

5 ай бұрын

My notes say Book 5, Chapter 10 is when Pierre had money missing. Maybe it’s around that part.

to note - i think Pierre thinks of himself as a highly moral guy, as somebody who is morally more conscientious and superior, as he uses his intellect to guide his choices, rather than having a competitive male ego. He observes other men fighting for physical/masculine supremacy and knows he's above that. So, when he refers to women being his weakness, it is because that is where he knows he lacks control. His feelings towards women are strong and cannot be rationalised and it irks him that he behaves in what he perceives to be a 'less evolved' manner around them. I also view Pierre as the Levin character - the one who Tolstoy uses as his own spokesperson - the character he uses to express some of his own personal values, hopes, mistakes, evolution and at times the representative of a social freedom which Tolstoy perhaps wished for and yet recognises that too many choices lead to discontent. Great discussion guys, i just wanted to add the psychological make up of Pierre that i see.... 🙂

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing

@yezdnil

Жыл бұрын

Pierre tries to do the right thing, but often falls by the wayside. For example, when he tries to give his serfs more freedom he forgets that's the only life they know. He has no transitional support plan in place. It's only after meeting Platon Karataev that Pierre starts to begins to understand how unthinking and insensitive he has been.

Should I read the book before or after watching this? I bought War and Peace 2 months ago and I have yet to start. I am finishing my graduation final thesis and i was waiting to finish the thesis before diving into war and peace. But then I found this video and I’m very interested in watching.

@TheCodeXCantina

7 ай бұрын

This video was built to be watched after. There are chapter by chapter markers for what it’s worth so the idea was read a chapter or two and then video after

Just had ACL surgery so I had plenty of free time. Literally read this master PEACE in 5 days and that’s because it written so well and so captivating. Now I feel an empty void LOL

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear about the ACL. My best friend just went through with that on a bad judo throw. Best of luck

@jacoblucas1408

9 ай бұрын

5 days is insane!! I don’t think I could have finished in that time even reading 12 hours/day

Bookmark: 6:50

For part 2 Why have you described a grape shot as a chain shot? They're two different types of cannon ammunition

@TheCodeXCantina

5 ай бұрын

Sorry

The last time I read W&P (trans. by Ann Dunnigan, my favourite translation, highly recommended), was about 3 years ago. I've always found the glimpse into the families in the epilogue rather flat. I simply can't believe in that complete change in Natasha's character. OK, people grow and mature, but they don't metamorphosis that much. And the character assassination of poor Sonya is, for me, too much to take. A 'sterile flower' is a harsh judgement to put on someone. It's as if Tolstoy had kind of lost interest in the book and just wanted to get it over with. It felt like the end to a different novel. However, I did like the indication that Pierre and Andrei's son, Nikolai, would take part in the 1825 Decemberist revolt, tying it up with Tolstoy's original idea of writing about an old Decemberist. I will plug Dunnigan's translation. It keeps the Russian name endings and the patronymics (which some don't, shame on them!) also enough French to make the translation seem authentically 'Russian' if you get my drift.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

I hear you. Someone commented on another Russian video discussion of ours that the only way to truly understand the writers was to speak Russian. I said that's fair but how was there French? I haven't heard back yet :D

@yezdnil

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCodeXCantina The only way to understand in full any piece of work in another language is to understand the original language but also to be part of that culture. Someone from Spain reading a Carlos Fuente novel is not going to have the full cultural experience, as with me not getting everything cultural in a US or Canadian novel. However, not reading translations would seriously cut our access to a wonderful range of reading. If a translation is good and 'feels' authentic, then it gives great enjoyment. It's a different experience, but a worthwhile one. I love Umberto Eco's 'The Name of the Rose' but can only read it in English. I'm lucky enough to have good enough French that I can read Merimee, Collette, Verne and Simenon in French (I love the Maigret novels. Reading them in French gives me access to the subtleties of who is addressed by 'tu' ,and who by 'vous'). Mind you, not good enough to tackle Proust!

Bookmark 2:50 9:05 13:00

Bookmark 4:29

Bookmark: 2:10:00

What? Four hours? Okay wow. Gonna watch this one in chunks. 😊

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

😂 Are you currently reading this one?

The French is absolute crucial. They speak less and less French as the wars go on,

👀 I'm always perplexed 😕 when I see an (american) adult who exhibits Star Wars stuff. I see that a lot onYT videos...🐢Number two here exhibits many Star W gadgets 🤗 in the background... all while discussing such profound content as Tolstoy's...,🕵️truly fascinating... Hello from Montreal

@TheCodeXCantina

6 ай бұрын

Ooo Montreal! I have tickets to the Montreal Canadiens game tomorrow night. Cheers from the Midwest

2:46:49

Bookmark: 0:02

For those that are overwhelmed by the size of it...think of it like 4 x 300+ page books and read it that way. Less daunting.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

It’s like a starting a limited series on Netflix 😂

@AngryPict

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCodeXCantina have you seen the recent adaption? I think it was by the BBC. I've avoided watching it so far.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

@@AngryPict negative. I have not seen any adaptations yet.

@lyramidsummer5508

Жыл бұрын

I took it chapter by chapter. Not daunting then. I could take a year to read it, but it would be done.

1:20:15

I look forward to watching this big beast of a video. But let me tell you that this book nearly became my first DNF because the dinner party chapters were so boring. Rich people with rich people problems imo.

@TheCodeXCantina

3 ай бұрын

You wouldn’t be the first. I hope you enjoy it!

I feel horrible for Sonya.

So fat 40:00 in, this has been great!

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words!

Disagree with the analysis at 34:33 Rostov appeared to be hounded into submission to maintain the honour of the regiment, to not disgrace a high ranking man. Whilst Rostov agrees, his own individual morals are in conflict with this 'collective/greater good' decision. He refuses to apologise for accusing the man yet acknowledges the way he confronted the situation was poor (shaming the man infront of other officers). I don't think Rostov truly "made this decision" as comfortably as your analysis suggests.

@TheCodeXCantina

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing

1:11:00

@thefinnishbolshevik2404

Жыл бұрын

2:03:00

@thefinnishbolshevik2404

Жыл бұрын

3:20:00

48:54

Catherine the great was born in Germany not Poland.

36:06

Relax, your face is just fine; perfectly normal.

You may not look like Cary Grant in his prime but then, who does?

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

😂

0:48 alright... Usually we stand up when we are down ! Guy was saying so obvious between lines/verses .... Can't you get it ? Somewhere in that time of L . NJ . Tolstoj was teror !

Andrea

Told a girl I read this book. Meeting in 5 hours.

Tolstoy clearly hated napoleon, thats why he seems "flat'

Catherine was german born

@TheCodeXCantina

8 ай бұрын

Yep

Tolstoy created vivid female characters! Natasha and Marya and their concerns get his full attention. Tolstoy was famous for his empathy for every character.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

He’s a great writer

@WaxyJo

Жыл бұрын

i agreed with them, his female characters lack the depths of the males. Anna Karenina herself put me off the book with her vacuous, manipulative, moroseness.... i think we can infer that Tolstoy himself was so affected by beauty, that it felt manipulative to him, even if accompanied by a purer heart.

@Tolstoy111

Жыл бұрын

@@WaxyJo He was certainly affected by beauty (and intellect and many other things). But claiming his female characters were not as developed as the male has to be contextualized with him as a creator o vivid characters as whole. Nobody did it better in prose. So that still leaves completely unforgettable female characters. Anna herself is a descendant of Emma Bovary with the ennui that implies.

@joyfulgirl91

10 ай бұрын

The female characters have depth in that they are devices for looking at social issues as being complex and impossible to separate from more glorified events and famous people, but they are not real people. They are inconsistent in their characters in ways you can’t justify by their changing circumstances and ages. The only exception in War and Peace might be Princess Maria.

@Tolstoy111

10 ай бұрын

@@joyfulgirl91 You could say the same thing about the (fictional) male characters. I connected to all of the primary characters - male and female.

This was great, but I'm amused at the confusion regarding the male competition and aggression. It's nothing to be ashamed of or to try and explain away, it's simple: men compete over territory, status, and mate selection. Civilized though we may call ourselves, we are still animals.

Of the 2 of ya. The Historian kind of briefly floated thru facts,like he casually knows shit,but doesnt ellaborate,where the presenter seems to go a little above and beyond, probably anticipating lulls in his partners effort.quite extensive to keep this moving i admit.actually as im typing dude is swinging a good back and forth with his bud.well, amusing for me.otherwise, I'm captivated.thnx.

Do not blame Tolstoy for lack of a feminine side. Charlotte's "Jane Eyre" has the sane description of her main character as being plain and unattractive and that coming from a woman author around the same time as Tolstoy.

But 50:00 the state of marriage divorce and overall satisfaction is and plummeting birthrates today compared to that time would suggest parents, however mercenary, make better “arranged” matches for their children than todays “free choice.” Just sayin

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

😂 lot to unpack!!

@custer264

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCodeXCantina oh well. At least you know for sure I’m listening!

@LeafbyLeaf 1 second ago Hey there! One of my subscribers just turned me on to your channel by pointing out that you and I both just dropped long videos on W&P. You’ve got excellent stuff out here. Subscribed.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! I’ll check out your video after the holidays. Pleasure to meet you

The opening were you just say the French people had enough of the King and just decided to overthrow him and the aristocracy is intellectually criminal. The monarchy, which was far from perfect, yet was paradise in comparison to what came after. One must ask, what ideology, funding and propaganda preceded the mass slaughter of so many, and reduced the hight of the Frence by six inches.

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Apologies for that. That’s a bit of a straw man presentation of our thoughts and does not accurately articulate my thoughts at all.

What a terrible assessment of the French Revolution. It was a propagandized movement that ruined France

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Okay Boomer

The Tolstoy people typically see are the "Old Man with a Long White Beard" photos taken later in his life and it gives people an image of a dusty tome. But when he wrote "War and Peace" he was in his 30s! He looked like this. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Tolstoy_1868.jpg

@TheCodeXCantina

Жыл бұрын

Handsome young man

Merci les amis, hello friends 🎋 I am watching the Bondarchuk movie against your comments. Quite an epic, very interesting to follow your discussions as I move through the grandiose film episodes. 🎭 This leads me to wonder... I don't remember anything in the movie having to do with Pierre and the freemasons... He's such a predominant character to follow, so well played by the director himself. I am originally of French culture, Canadian Lebanese... I might revisit part one to verify if I just missed it or if Bondarchuck deliberately ignored it. 🪅 All the same, l am at the beginning of part 4 of the film, and the rest of your video, bye! Salutations from Montreal

44:16

49:08

@panashedelvingundani8501

3 ай бұрын

1:57:22