Cut the slab between the holes you've cut and do a full pour so that the lift posts are on the same concrete pour

@SpiritedWrenchers

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and sharing. We certainly appreciate it. We actually talked about that as an option but considering cost and I spoke with the lift team and they felt that it wasn't necessary so we went this route. Thankfully it has worked out great and no issues with the floor. Cheers!

Glad to hear someone’s lift dream can come true ! Cheers 🍻

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jogo for watching and sharing the kind words. We appreciate you. A dream indeed. Cheers!

Concrete is not cured enough at 10 days. You need to wait 30 days before installing ancors.

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. From what I was told by the contractor and the lift company, 2 weeks was all we needed. We've had the lift in now for almost a year and not one problem with the foundation thankfully.

Your extra challenge is that joint, making it impossible to get 8-10 inches all around the base without cracks or joints. Congrats!

@SpiritedWrenchers

3 ай бұрын

Hi JJ. Thanks for watching and sharing. You're right. It was certainly a lot of thought on the best to way correct the issue so the lift could also fit the best. Cheers!

I put in a used Rotary lift inground... FP46HMK.. in excellent shape..like the open floor look. In my home shop.. great video

@SpiritedWrenchers

Жыл бұрын

Hi Stephen. Thanks for watching, sharing your story, and kind words. We appreciate it. That's really cool about your rotary. Those are great lifts. Stumbling across a good used one is awesome!

Great video. Good luck with the remainder of the work. Looking forward to the finish and seeing it in operation. Ummm, spirits.

@SpiritedWrenchers

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and feedback. Greatly appreciate it.

@reganblankenship2216

3 жыл бұрын

This is going to make everything so much easier! Great choice!!

@SpiritedWrenchers

3 жыл бұрын

@@reganblankenship2216 Thank you. I completely agree.

@schuck9326

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing and showing all the details.

that was quite a challenge for a one man band .. well done . nice to see you had just enough concrete .

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard. Thank you for watching, sharing your kind words and subscribing. We greatly appreciate it all. This was certainly a job I wish we didn't have to do but very thankful that we did because the lift has been amazing to have with our car projects. Stay safe. Cheers!

We have a Bendpak 2-post lift in our garage. We built the garage and had the slab poured, knowing we wanted a lift and that the concrete needed to be thicker under the posts. It was still nerve wracking! Retrofitting an existing garage for it would be even more stressful. When we first started looking at them, we were surprised at how reasonable the cost of the lift itself it. It's all the prep work to the building that really adds up! Now I have to go watch your other video with the finished product!

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and sharing your story. Bendpak's are very nice lifts. It's good that you were able to build everything with that in mind ahead of time. Going back and doing it backwards is never fun and with my luck, it's never easy. LOL. Cheers!

Nice video, thanks for sharing it. When I had my shop foundation poured they told me I had to wait 28 days before I could put the steel building up, and that was using 5" thick 5,000 psi reinforced concrete. I didn't want faster curing (i.e. hotter) as that could cause other issues like cracks. I am installing an Advantage SS-11000-WD four post lift next week. It has always been my lifelong dream to have a decent sized shop with a lift; I am so excited! My shop has 16' side walls and 14'x14' doors, so plenty of room...

@SpiritedWrenchers

10 ай бұрын

Hi Artillerybuff (love the name by the way). Thank you so much for watching, sharing the kind words and your own story. We love it. I've come to understand that some companies vary on when the feel it's cured enough for mounting anything to it. Sounds like you have a wonderful lift in your future. If I had unlimited funds, I would get a 4 post for storing the cars and having the 2 post open for maintenance or upgrade work. Let us know how it turned out when you get it installed.

I installed a Challenger CL10V 10k two post lift with the overhead cabling. These are American made (Kentucky). My manual required 4" 3500psi. concrete which I have along with rebar. I regularly put my 8k truck up on it and see zero signs of stress or movement.

@SpiritedWrenchers

10 ай бұрын

Hi Helihoot. Thank you for watching and sharing. Challenger make great lifts. They were on my list when considering the lift for our shop. We appreciate you sharing the info regarding yours. We really appreciate it.

@diversedad7954

5 ай бұрын

You could be pushing the limits of that lift or even exceeding it. Just for your safely, you need to check what the actual weight of the front and rear of the vehicle is if you are getting anywhere close to the limit of the lift. If your lift is rated for 10k lbs that means each arm is rated for 2500 lbs and if you have more than 5k on the front (such as a diesel truck) you could still be over weight for the arms even though you are still under on total weight for the lift.

@helihoot

5 ай бұрын

Are you positive the design has each arm 1/4 of the total maximum load? Aren't most vehicles heavier up front? The front arms on this lft are much shorter than the rear arms.@@diversedad7954

My nerves are a little on edge right now as I am going to have a lift in the new, as you put it, hangar...lol. They're doing forms tomorrow and pouring concrete next week weather permitting...first reveal right here, right now...30x40, 14' side walls and all insulated...you're on the short list of knowing that much info but there will be more videos to follow with an actual reveal video after the concrete pour. I'm thinking Titan lift as well but might go for an 11k lift if I can get a low profile arm version.

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Woo hoo. VIP access to the news. Love it. LOL. That's awesome man. Well deserved and happy for you. Definitely jealous about the insulated part. I'm hanging foam board insulation right now hoping that it helps just a little in the winters. Looking forward to seeing the progress and congrats to you!

@YellowJacketGarage

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpiritedWrenchers thanks, there is a bit of a sad back story to the shop but I'll talk to that later as well. Trying to figure out exactly how I want to talk about it though.

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

@@YellowJacketGarage Look forward to hearing the story of it all.

Seems like too small an area...you don't want to do it again right? I have to move my lift to a new location, and it has weak old concrete, and I was thinking I could make the pads 2in lower because the arms sit 2.5" high off the ground, and my cars are typically low racecars and they have to have boards driven onto to get the arms under them. Might be a tip for your views. I will have to make a video of this too, because soon everyone will start doing this sunken pad thing.. btw, I did years of work without a lift, and after getting one (I got used for $500), it was like, wtf did I not get one long ago.

@SpiritedWrenchers

Жыл бұрын

Hi Murraymadness. Thanks for watching and sharing. Our area that we redid was actually deeper than the manufacture recommended but the width was exactly what was recommended so we went with that. Interesting idea on the sunken pad. If we ever move this place, we won't be taking the lift with us. We'll just get a different one and likely a different style as well. However the concrete will be done correctly the first time so we never have an issue like this. Cheers!

That is a dream of mine that will not come true. Have a car and a half garage and the ceiling isn’t high enough. Maybe hit the lottery and have a dream garage built!!

@SpiritedWrenchers

Жыл бұрын

Hi Pugs. Thank you for watching and sharing. We greatly appreciate it. It's been a long time dream for us as well. We were lucky enough to buy a home that had the pole barn onsite already or we may not have been able to buy one too. Is your ceiling too low for a 4 post lift? I know they have different options for lower ceilings. Either way, we hope you can fulfill your dream at some point soon. Stay safe!

did cutting through that concrete joint cause any issues? i have a 4 (joint) square looking garage floor and im hesitating about cutting through or close to the joints. i see on the left side of this video, it was cut through etc.... and how much was the concrete truck (ballpark) to do it?

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Great question. I have yet to have any issues with the joint. Im sure the depth and using metal ties helped with that. I paid a lump sum to the guy which also included the truck so I don't know exactly what he paid them. Sorry. Good luck with your project.

i had my lift break the concrete and drop my truck. i had just got out from under it. i had a top brace made for my lift.

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. That's crazy. So glad you were not under it. What caused it to fail? Thank you for sharing and watching the episode. We greatly appreciate it.

Good morning! Did you happen to hit any rebar when drilling or was it laid out so you wouldn’t, thanks. Nice job

@SpiritedWrenchers

5 ай бұрын

Hi Terry. Thanka for watching and sharing the kind words. We appreciate it. It appears there was no rebar in the initial floor, and thankfully, none was hit when installing the lift. I didn't actually think we would with how deep it was poured in. Hope that helps.

@michaelpipkin2660

4 ай бұрын

Can you not add metal tubing cut at angles to spread load out?

@SpiritedWrenchers

4 ай бұрын

@@michaelpipkin2660 Thanks for watching and asking. We appreciate it. Are you referring to having the metal above the concrete or something different?

I’ve got no problem cutting concrete and pouring a square footing. Problem is, I’ve got radiant heat in my slab that would be impossible to not damage in the process 😞

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Michael, thanks for watching and sharing your situation. I agree 100%, if I had that, I wouldn't be cutting it as well. We'd be forced to get a 4 post instead. Cheers

@bobwhite825

5 күн бұрын

How’s that radiant heat working for you ? I invented that a long time ago . Problem was another guy beat me to it. Story of my life.

Isn’t it 28 days to cure before you can put any lift on there

@SpiritedWrenchers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and asking. From what I told by my cement guy, it can depend on how its mixed. He requested a faster cure time so we didn't need to wait the full 28 days. So far, I've had no issues and we use it almost weekly on our project mustang.

do your posts wobble when lifting or lowering a car?

@SpiritedWrenchers

Жыл бұрын

Hi Michael. Thanks for watching and asking. We appreciate it. No wobble at all. If we had any in it, we would immediately stop, evaluate and correct before using it. Have lifted SUVs, cars and a 4Runner with no problems.

You don't dump the rebar on the bottom, it should stay in the middle of the slab.

@SpiritedWrenchers

3 ай бұрын

Hi Mike. Thanks for watching and sharing. We appreciate it. The rebar actually wasn't on the bottom. Their were several loads added to each hole before it was added. The spots are still just like new so everything is working the way it should. Cheers!

Anyone that installs a 2 post lift on 4 inches is crazy, 6 inches of high strength fiber concrete minimum. You're risking your life under most of these consumer 2 posts, I dont care what a manufacturer says.

@SpiritedWrenchers

7 ай бұрын

Hi Avalanche. Thank you for watching and sharing. We greatly appreciate it. We agree, no expense is too great to avoid the potential loss of life. On the smallest scale, potential loss of our vehicles on that lift. Have to do it right! Stay safe!

At first I thought you already had rebar in the floor then I see your adding a few pieces to tie it to concrete that has no rebar. I guess hindsight is 20/20 but 6" of concrete with rebar would have been what should have been the floor design in the first place which is what I have in my floor with a lift. Too bad you had to cut your new floor.

@SpiritedWrenchers

9 ай бұрын

Hi Randy. Thanks for watching and sharing. You are correct. That should have been the design from the beginning. Unfortunately, this was all done by the original home builders/owners. They were cheap and had no intention of having a lift, so they poured what they felt the shop was good for. This floor is also 20 years old, so there's that. Lol. When we build a new shop, the floor will be done with growth in mind and done correctly.

What PSI concrete ? That's very important.

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Joseph. Thanka for watching and asking. Im not sure to be honest. The concrete guy who did the work has been doing foundations for pole barns for a long time and knew exactly what to order from the concrete company.

Ouch! no respirator on a dry cut. Eww. Hexavalent Chromium...

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Bryan. We appreciate it. Well the guy had his own business doing it so he was the expert. 🤷‍♂️

Why didn't you just buy the additional load distribution plates for thin cement. Alot cheaper 😂

@SpiritedWrenchers

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing. That's a great question. Easy answer, didn't know about them and manufacturer also didn't provide that as an option when discussing the situation. When it comes down it though, when it's something like our classic's in the air, the last thing I want to think about is how much money I saved by going cheaper on the foundation.

How big of a square did u end up cutting out?

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, asking & subscribing Frank. We greatly appreciate it. Titan recommended a 2'x2' area with the appropriate depth so that's what we cut out. Some lift companies from what I understand will only recommend 12x12 or 18x18 so I was a little surprised but it had to be done. Are you installing a lift?

@frankgomez1965

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpiritedWrenchers yes I just ordered a lift. I may have to do this also.

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankgomez1965 Excellent. What brand? I hope you don't have to like we did. Do you have a hammer drill to test the depth?

Why cut concrete then remove it and make two piles then double handle it again...why not put it in trailer or ute as removing it ????

@SpiritedWrenchers

7 ай бұрын

Hi Tim. Thanks for watching and asking. We appreciate it. Well the easy answer is that he didn't have his truck/trailer there on the 1st day so we didn't have anywhere to cart it off to. LOL. Although I don't always like to make the job harder, I also never shy away from hard work where there was no other choice. Hope that helps. Stay safe out there.

Ever heard of Silicosis? Concreter appears not to have.

If you higher someone to cut concrete in a garage and they start cutting it dry, send them home. Your 2 4x4 footings should not even come close to doubling the cost of your project. Also a garage floor slab is usually formed with 2x4 lumber that will make your slab 3 1/2” deep which is perfectly acceptable for a garage floor. Why did you set your lift at a 45 degree angle to your walls? You should spend a little more time watching KZread before your next project.

@SpiritedWrenchers

9 ай бұрын

Lmao. Thanks, Steve, for watching and sharing. It's nice that you assume that I didn't. I consulted with a number of people to include the lift manufacturer. The lift is at a 45-degree angle, so I could maximize the space we have in the shop while also allowing for up to 2 additional vehicles to work on. Assumptions like these, as if you know us, make me laugh. Like I said, we appreciate you watching and sharing. Enjoy the rest of your day.

I decided where I wanted my lift and I put two 4x4 foot 12 inch thick slabs that were level to each other. I did this with a portable mixer and I put rebar in the slabs. I let it cure for a month then drilled my anchors. I installed a 9,000 pound two post lift myself. I originally covered it with a sheet of tin. I then poured a 4 inch floor around the lift until I had a 30 x 20 floor. 10 years later everything is perfect. I use my lift a lot. Anybody want to buy a worn out portable mixer?LOL

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert. Thanks for watching and sharing your story. We really appreciate it. Great job on the work you put in for it. Funny about your equipment being available for purchase. 🤣. Stay safe!

For anyone worried that 4" reinforced floor isn't enough. It is more than good enough for a 2 post lift calling for that spec. 3/4" wedge anchors pull out at 5,000 lbs each in 3 1/2" concrete. Times that by a minimum of 10 anchors most lifts have and your 10k lbs lift is secured 5 times over what it needs to be at max load using the minimum requirements they suggest. What's more important is the base plate. A good lift will have a large base plate to spread the weight more. Think about a floor jack and how little of a contact profile the wheels have and yet the concrete does not break thru when jacking up a heavy truck.

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Justin. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. It's greatly appreciated!

@gtgarage

2 жыл бұрын

Pulling the anchor out is not really the issue. What a shock it would be if substandard concrete cracked and broke with the anchors still fixed in the broken chunks.

@2ndtwo1

Жыл бұрын

I hate to say it but you are not even close to correct! Please stop giving advice. 4" is not enough because you don't understand the forces a 2 post lift creates on the concrete. The pull force is not vertical it is hinged. The concrete has compression strength not suspension strength, totally different calculations. Take a course on physics, engineering, or simple building practices. This subject is beyond your understanding at this time. Please stop! You are going to get someone killed!

@upnorth5465

Жыл бұрын

@@2ndtwo1 funny because all of my 2 post lifts are rated for 10k lbs and are anchored in my shop that has a 4" reenforced slab. Every lift came with a manual that stated 4" reenforced minimum. A US company (rotary) Is not going to just say 4" without having an engineer approve that spec. I've had them for many years and lift heavy diesel trucks on them almost daily and never had the slightest issue. So calm the hell down and read some more books and shut your trap.

@2ndtwo1

Жыл бұрын

@@upnorth5465 Read the rest of the manual or any other manufacturers manual and you will find 4" is the bare minimum and only under some conditions. Stop pretending to know everything because you read a piece of paper.

Double the cost? Just rent a demo saw and electric jack hammer. One Saturday and then your ready for concrete. I'm guessing 250$ to rent the tools and even of the mud is 250 a yard, you shouldn't need more than 2

@SpiritedWrenchers

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing. We appreciate it. You're right, that was an option that I had but I chose to hire someone to do it instead. Still don't regret it as the pad looks great and still holding up with no issues.

Too much irritating music

@SpiritedWrenchers

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Tom. Thanks for watching and sharing the feedback. We appreciate it. Being one of our early videos, I'll chalk that up to inexperience. Hope the rest of the video was of value to you. Our episodes have only gotten better since then. Cheers!

2 1/2 minutes of blather about nothing.

@SpiritedWrenchers

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Thanks for sharing. Those sure are a tough 2.5 minutes huh? Have a good day and thanks for watching.

No water when cutting the concrete, seriously not safe and what a mess!

@SpiritedWrenchers

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing. We appreciate it. He was the expert. 1st time for me so I wasn't in a place to tell him how to do his job. 🤷‍♂️

WRONG,,TOTALLY WRONG..

@SpiritedWrenchers

Жыл бұрын

Hi Harry. Thanks for watching. Would you like to elaborate on what was totally wrong in your opinion?

@diversedad7954

5 ай бұрын

@@SpiritedWrenchers I love comments like this on my channel. People who feel they need to take the time to share their opinion that you are wrong then don't offer any context or input as to how it should be done. The only purpose a comment like that would have is to help better inform people of the right way to do it. If they aren't going to do that, why comment at all? The internet is so broken.

@SpiritedWrenchers

5 ай бұрын

@diversedad7954 Thank you very much for watching and sharing. We really appreciate it. Couldn't agree with you more. It's a sad state for sure. On a better note, I checked out your channel and subbed. Looks like we have similar tastes and content, so I look forward to watching your videos and supporting your journey. Cheers!