Hi everyone! Vizio has requested that I clarify that while Vizio's smart TV experience is now referred to as Vizio Home or Vizio Home Screen, the platform itself, at least internally at a corporate level, is still referred to as SmartCast, therefore Walmart's reference to SmartCast in its press release is neither comical nor out-of-touch as I suggested it to be in the video.

@SethMSparks

3 ай бұрын

"... no, um, we meant to say that and aren't dumb. It's just the language we use internally." Because internal corporate speak is what every press department strives to have included in their announcements.

@shiwomino5775

3 ай бұрын

"Internally." "At the corporate level." So basically, "not really." It's hilarious that they got pissy about it being mentioned. Your point was VALID. They really shouldn't have contacted you about it. Bad look on them.

@AdmiralBison

3 ай бұрын

Appreciate that they bring up that impotant issue, because that's the foremost concerne on consumers's minds. /s

@CeruleanSky1111

2 ай бұрын

Passive aggressive bullying...speaks volumes and shows how truly asinine Vizio is.

@user-zh5lj1ec4k

2 ай бұрын

lol Walmart might as well buy Vizio. Both of them offer cheap great value items.

The very reason we loved things like Netflix, Amazon, etc. was to get away from the ads. They pushed it until they dealt the DVD sales a huge blow, then put commercials back in. I really hope there is a huge financial backlash on these companies.

@bigalexg

3 ай бұрын

amen bro, playing the long game, effing cartels

@syloui

3 ай бұрын

Should be. Without growing subs the justification for green lighting every dogshit tv show and movie just to pad the library won't make any more sense. DVD sales could at least recoup that cost before, but there's only so far a tax write off can go

@Bamapride1985

3 ай бұрын

At least have the option to pay a little more to get the ad free versions instead of having ads forced on you while paying high premiums like cable tv. I'm not a fan of ads but at least they give you an option to pay a little more and not have to deal with the ads.

@MisteryMan2000

3 ай бұрын

I'll take ads over being forced to purchase streaming content from Amazon or Apple, but I'd prefer to have neither ads nor limited streaming options.

@Frost_Tiger

3 ай бұрын

It's not gonna stop they will find ways. Plus I rather buy a regular TV than a smart one cause at this point their gonna treat them like smart phones if not already with pseudo contacts or whatever they have now. Also streaming is done they're no different than a cable box but... it's an app less development for a boxes means more money saved for them

Ah, the accelerated enshitification of smart tvs.

@fonkenful

3 ай бұрын

And that’ll be the most family friendly reference to Juice Media joy could post

@jolness1

3 ай бұрын

Of just about everything sadly.

@war2thegrave

3 ай бұрын

'Smart' TV's were always garbage. 'Smart' TV features are better implemented in dongles.

@ChickenMcThiccken

3 ай бұрын

its just going to make the business go out of business. the only silver lining is the cheap price of a 50 inch which is like less than 300 dollars now.

@narutobroken

3 ай бұрын

Give me a dumb TV and an Apple TV 4K. No ads, as fast as an iPhone.

Caleb, you made mention of the fact that "advertising always works" but there's another side to that story: advertising blowback. In today's modern world, people are so entirely sick and tired of being marketed to 24x7 everywhere they look that many of them will take their revenge on advertisers by going out of their way NOT to purchase things that are constantly shoved in their face, just to spite them. Ever hear anyone say, "I'm so sick and tired of watching that damn ad from X company. I swear to GOD I hate those people. I will NEVER buy one of their products, no matter what, as long as I live!" Well, sure. That company got that person to remember them, but they also made a life-long ENEMY out of them. Great job there, guys! That's the dirty little secret that no one ever wants to talk about in the advertising industry: when you over-advertise to people they actively seek to take their REVENGE on you for annoying the living hell out of them and guess what their weapon of choice is to strike back at you? Their WALLET!

@lisaleone2296

3 ай бұрын

Agree. There are people who are easily swayed, I'm more likely to boycott something I'm sick of.

@kptamc

2 ай бұрын

If advertisers only knew how sick people were hearing the ads and tune them out, go take a pee break or fix a sandwich while the ads are playing. When you bug the daylights out of people they tend to pay less attention.

@michaelbeckerman7532

2 ай бұрын

@@kptamc I wish this was something that was actually discussed more and even taught in college marketing and advertising courses, but it rarely if ever is. People literally hate ads, regardless of where or when they are exposed to them. And, the harder advertisers try to inject ads into our daily lives, the more we hate and despise them. Advertisers need to understand that consumers will literally PUNISH them for overbearing and intrusive advertising - with the most powerful tool they have: their wallets!

@FJB2020

2 ай бұрын

I have personally never bought something based on an ad. Nothing they offer is something that I need.

@williamjones7821

Ай бұрын

For me, advertising blowback began with Susan Sullivan (Falcon Crest) carpet-bombing my parents' living room with TYLENOL ads in 1987-1988. Now it's worse than ever, particularly "big pharma" with allergy and diabetes drugs.

In the 90s I worked for an ad company in SF that specialized in custom video ads beamed and streamed on TVs in Walmart stores. Having a captive home audience has always been in their sights.

If memory serves me correctly, there was a TV show in the 1980s called Max Headroom. A side story in the show was that people were paid to watch TV commercials. TV stations monitored the consumption of TV commercials where their success was measured by how many commercials were watched and by how many people. The people who watched these commercials were paid a small fee. The more they watched commercials the money they made and the higher the station ratings were. That dystopian future is now reversed where we have to pay not to watch commercials even though 99% are irrelevant to our personal lives.

@Caleb_Denison

3 ай бұрын

Yes! And they developed “blipverts” which were super-fast ads that could be consumed in seconds. They cause problems, of course.

@crosslink1493

3 ай бұрын

Great show, I remember it well. Only lasted one season IIRC. "Max" was the narcistic alter ego of the shows star, an aggressive news reporter who accidentally fell into a computer and shorted it out, transferring his ego onto the computer network. Supposedly the computer graphics process to make "Max" constantly shift between TV screens (or multiple TV screens at once) made the show unprofitable. That would be easy with today's technology.

@RockyRoads1

3 ай бұрын

Wasn't that a thing a while ago where you could just go to a website and get paid to watch ads?

@acoupleofschoes

3 ай бұрын

The same year Max Headroom came out, Carl Sagan's novel Contact released. It had almost the inverse situation with ads happen in it's alternate 1980's. A device was created that automatically muted the sound whenever an ad came on over antenna TV. Advertisers stopped paying for ads, television companies stopped producing shows because they weren't being paid anymore, and the only thing left on TV was religious services, QVC-esque shopping networks, and news. It was a really odd, dystopian feature to just mention in passing and never expound on the fact this future doesn't have any scripted TV.

@robertgaines-tulsa

3 ай бұрын

The smart TVs will monitor if you're actually watching the TV. If you go to the bathroom or get a snack, it will pause the ad. It will probably just continue playing the content or force you to watch ads when you return. It will get worse. Your car won't start until you have watched an ad. They are already making features like heated seats and air conditioning a monthly premium. Jesus Christ, something's got to give.

They will drive customers AWAY with constant ad bombardment.

@compunerd

3 ай бұрын

but you already own the TV lol

@Derek.Mitchell

3 ай бұрын

No it won’t. Netflix’ profits went up once they locked accounts to households. Amazon stock went up after they removed prime video features, added ads, and charged their prime customers $3/mo to get their old experience back. All of these monopolies will copy each other, taking turns inventing new ways to screw their customers. People will just buy the thing and the customer experience will be increasingly compromised for the sake of shareholder profits.

@JonnyFlash80

3 ай бұрын

​@compunerd but you don't have to use their garbage "smart" features. There's plenty of streaming sticks and boxes out there that do a much better job than what's built into most tvs.

@saintkupo

3 ай бұрын

@@JonnyFlash80Apple TV is really the best no ads in the UI at all.

@americanbadass88

3 ай бұрын

dont hook the tv up ONLINE and bam NO MORE ADS. smart tvs are TRASH anyways. i use my Xbox one and PS4 as a streaming device when im not gaming. which is rare because TV has become utter TRASH anyways.....

I own a couple Vizio smart TVs. I run Roku boxes and over the air antennas. Yes I'm old. With their latest update, their SmartCast took over the tuning of the antenna input and put it in a menu format. Doing so created delays in switching channels and loss of video signal to the point some stations were not received any longer. So, out of spite, I disconnected my TV from the internet. I refuse to let someone else control something that I bought years ago without giving me an option.

@oswaldedgar5467

3 ай бұрын

Same here.

@joelstanley3894

2 ай бұрын

Had the same problem. It made my Vizio's a completely worthless. off the internet and factory reset to use them at all. I Only stream with a laptop, HDMI cable.

@cglaurer

Ай бұрын

I was so disgusted and angered by this update. I’ll never buy another Vizio.

@teeser2436

21 күн бұрын

Did the same and my 48 in Vizio 2012 still going strong I don’t watch TV that much. I’m old too.Hate the pictures on new TV’s.

"we followed the money right to our studio".....pure gold of the year.

When Vizio first came out their TVs were phenomenal and lasted forever. We still have some running from 2006, the past 5 years Vizio has been trash...

@MrSchimpf

3 ай бұрын

The entire push to FAST on Vizio devices has bogged down their OS and I was glad when mine died! And since I work tech support for a living and they count SmartCast as an input, trying to get someone to the correct HDMI input is an exercise in frustration when they're seeing Ion Plus or whatever instead of their regular inputs.

@BoricuaBoy88

3 ай бұрын

Mine is from 2020, and it's really good. It just depends on the price you pay. Usually with these budget brands, there's a larger drop-off in quality between their higher end and midrange models. Their new OS is also great. Super snappy.

@rene.s.s

3 ай бұрын

I bought a Vizio M that I liked but died after 5 years. I currently have an OLED that looks nice, had software issues (not as bad as most) and seems to be doing OK. I’ll be casting my commercial free apps Netflix, Max, YT Prem

@dalesplitstone6276

3 ай бұрын

I bought a 65" M-series a little over a year ago so I could have a bigger picture. This television doesn't even have aspect ratio choice, so I now have to watch letterboxed DVD content with a smaller picture than on my old 55 inch.

@seethransom

3 ай бұрын

I love my OLED. When I bought it the GUI was awful. But it has improved a bit.

I think advertisement has too much reach in the U.S., there's over saturation of it and it's absolutely everywhere to the point that it's off-putting.

@deepee1544

3 ай бұрын

And Canada.

@AdmiralBison

3 ай бұрын

This critique was brought to you by Wall Mart. Seriously, until we finally transition to a Socialist Economic system, advertising and marketing will be increasingly pervasive in order for corporations to reach their monthly, quarterly, semi, annual forecasts that never satisfies their 1% shareholders.

@mikesecor6074

3 ай бұрын

@@AdmiralBisonare you a communist, is so leave, Ty

@AdmiralBison

3 ай бұрын

@@mikesecor6074 Are you a corporate bootlicker?? I'm on the side of consumers and workers, how about you leave.

@genericdude6551

3 ай бұрын

When I visited Russia their TV ads were a lot worse. They were ever-present.

I don't buy smart TVs. I prefer dumb TVs with a lot of HDMI inputs...

@nanais007

2 ай бұрын

Guy at best buy told me dumb tvs don't exist anymore.

@gingergobble5539

20 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@manicmarauder

6 күн бұрын

@@nanais007 I would say he lied, but honestly it's not like Best Buy trains people, so he probably just isn't aware, but they do still exist. You have to go out of your way to look for them, but they are still being made. They're just not the top of the line models that most people are programed to lust for.

Bought a TV from Walmart a couple of years ago. Hooked it up to an air antenna. Started watching channels that I like, but eventually it was the same shows that repeated over and over again. I am unplugged the TV for over a year and recently I plugged it back in to see what was on there. Turned out, when I rescanned the channels it was the same shows that repeated from the last time I had the TV on. There was one new channel that shows older 30, 40, 50 films. This is the only reason the unit is still plugged in now.

@tactileslut

2 ай бұрын

Johnny Carson is still on on my area.

At this rate, in 40 years toilets will have a little screen that makes you watch an ad before you can even flush💀

@lance_374

3 ай бұрын

Don't give any ideas

@deepee1544

3 ай бұрын

🤣 sad but maybe true!

@AndreeBZ

3 ай бұрын

Working on it. Will send ticker for investors in a few weeks 😂

@overnightdelivery

3 ай бұрын

Why do you think 40 years? I'd say less than 10.

@pabl0sauced0

3 ай бұрын

@overnightdelivery yea, I recently found out about the Wendy's surge pricing bs and AI can now make lifelike videos so it seems like the dystopian future isn't that far off.

The internet: Mankind’s greatest and worst invention.

@ALEXANDER-mx6dk

3 ай бұрын

It's the modern day version of the Tower of Babel if you think about it. *Genesis 11:1-9, "all people used to speak the same language. Their unity of language allowed them to collaborate efficiently. They decided to build a grand tower, so tall it would reach into the heavens."*

@JimWalker-bs4et

3 ай бұрын

Nuclear Weapons

@tim3172

3 ай бұрын

@@ALEXANDER-mx6dk LOL at the sky fairy drivel.

@JonnyFlash80

3 ай бұрын

Eventually, corporations destroy everything good just to earn that extra advertising dollar.

@pmscalisi

3 ай бұрын

@@tim3172it’s funny how people get so triggered about a story 😂😂😂😂

I grew up in the 80s and never minded ad-supported television, though the quality of ads was much higher. Ad breaks were part of the shows, often setting up cliff hangers or jokes. The most popular TV shows these days are shot like mini-films with no room for anything like that.

@BettMagnett

3 ай бұрын

KZread ads were also made to originally be mostly only placed by hand by the uploader at specific points in videos and the creators even filmed cliffhangers just so they could put ads in and it feeling like a suspense build-up to a suprise instead of just an interruption.

@bikeny

3 ай бұрын

Prior to 1978, the amount of ad-time in a prime-time (i.e, 8pm-11pm) 30-minute and 60-minute show was 5 and 10 minutes, respectively. So, no big deal. And we all appreciated those little breaks so we could truly run to the kitchen for the snack we left on the table. Afterwards, with deregulation, it started slowly, but we got to where we now have 10 and 20 minutes per of those blocks. I have been so conditioned to ff through the ads on my vcr that I can't even put up ads for 5 seconds. I may not buy a new tv (I moved back in 2022 and then again in Oct 2023, so I had given away my 2006 HP 42-inch Plasma tv back in 2022). I've been watching my non-ad version of netflix, amazon (though not since my 2nd move), and paramount+ via my pc and its monitor. I will check the amazon ad version and depending on much I get PO'd at it, I might kick in the $3. The ads on a platform when I would be searching for content is a despicable thing, IMO. If I couldn't click through it before the searching, I would probably cancel the account. If and when I do buy an actual tv (and if I can't find a non-smart tv, I will disable the smart tv's brain), I will do what I had been doing for years with that HP tv, connect my Roku box via the hdmi cord and have an Ethernet cable in the roku box. I certainly hope that would be a viable option.

@damian9303

3 ай бұрын

@@BettMagnettAfter having heard the news of them introducing mid-roll ads and subsequently seeing more videos do that, I knew right away it wasn’t KZread automatically doing it but a conscious decision by the creator. Even if you had the likes of Louis Rossman who had to fiddle with the finicky YT Studio uplift to get them all off

@lvsluggo007

2 ай бұрын

Ads in the 80s actually were often fun/entertaining.. The crap today is just that.. CRAP.. Too much "Ask *your* doctor" about this drug that has side effects that include possible DEATH

I don't ever use the "Smart" part of my TV's. In fact, I don't even connect them to the internet after getting it all set up. Just turn off the wifi or unplug the ethernet cable and no more "Smart" TV. I use either my Roku Ultra or Apple TV to stream my stuff. Every now and then I'll reconnect to check for updates, but otherwise my "Smart" TV's are rather dumb.

@LXXXIX

3 ай бұрын

I do the exact same thing

@racineurr.8924

3 ай бұрын

Hello, I thought about doing the same for some time. May I ask you what are the ups and downs of doing so? I have an Apple TV and also a Roku Express. What is the biggest benefit of making a smart TV dumb? You still need an Internet connection for ATV and Roku.

@poppy87

3 ай бұрын

You're basically switching one smart platform for another.

@stevec5465

3 ай бұрын

​@@racineurr.8924 TV manufacturers do not update their firmware on a consistent basis. If you have an apple tv, Roku or firestick, they are updated more often than your TV does. At least. that's what I have seen.

@michaels7258

3 ай бұрын

Yep

Get a shield pro, use a better, free launcher. No more platform ads. I never use my TVs as anything more than a straight display panel, they aren’t even on the network.

@thebag-lt6wv

2 ай бұрын

recommed any good launchers??

@FJB2020

2 ай бұрын

​@@thebag-lt6wvFLauncher seems to work well with the latest firmware..

@joe45678tc

2 ай бұрын

They never tell, I see similar post all the time.

Can't wait to have Walmart employees telling me Vizio is better than Samsung or Sony.

@rivergatenashville6352

3 ай бұрын

your walmart actually has people that help? at mine you have to spend 15 mins finding someone to help you.

@TheOtherBill

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't trust a Walmart employee to tell me where the restroom is.

@rustyt115

2 ай бұрын

@@TheOtherBillLMAO

@DarkMatterBurrito

2 ай бұрын

Doesn't Vizio use Samsung panels...?

@gogereaver349

2 ай бұрын

there all loaded with ads now.

This is why it’s important to buy physical media. Get the movies you want in true 4k with no ads, better sound and you never have to worry if it goes to a different streaming platform. The only negative for now is that many shows don’t have a physical release.

@ruger6049

2 ай бұрын

That's fine if you like to watch films more than once. That is a rarity for us. No desire to blow $30 on a disc "just to have physical media". Started a collection way back. Now it's just a bunch of plastic taking up space.

@TheGamingNinja505

2 ай бұрын

@@ruger6049 true, it’s not for everyone. However if you’re into Films and tv shows, and you like to watch it more than once then owning the physical copy is great.

@davidperry4013

2 ай бұрын

I like blu rays and DVDs more than having like fifteen million different platforms or getting driven away from companies or products due to intrusive and creepy ads.

There is a really cool thing where you can buy a modern tv, leave it off the internet, hook it up to a PC; and never have to see ads again. My a95k will never get connected to the internet, and Sony is really good about offering offline firmware updates that are installed via USB.

@ModeMan101

3 ай бұрын

Unless you're not using any streaming services (or are paying extra for ad-free tiers) I don't see how that gets around seeing ads completely.

@frommatorav1

3 ай бұрын

@@ModeMan101 I do subscribe to ad-free versions of all my apps, with the exception of Prime. I'm testing the waters to see if I just start using it less or whether to pay the $2.99 premium. I know for a fact that KZread, Hulu and Peacock are completely obnoxious with ads. I've never tested Paramount without ads to know the difference. My Max and Apple are without ads too. Max comes with my internet AT&T service at no extra cost.

@Caleb_Denison

3 ай бұрын

Yeah; the how to operate a “dumb TV” video is coming. Along with other workarounds

@interceptor001

3 ай бұрын

@@ModeMan101 Use a browser like Vivaldi to stream that blocks ads very good.

@TearlessGosling

3 ай бұрын

@@ModeMan101 plenty of legitimate and illegitimate ways around ads once you are on a computer.

Hey everyone! Thanks for all the great comments. Sounds like a lot of you forego connecting your TV to the internet. Has that ever caused you a problem? Here’s hoping forced internet connection is never allowed, right??!! Maybe those of us in the U.S. should advocate for regulation around this? What do you think?

@LeezahB

3 ай бұрын

While I don’t think forcing an internet connection should be allowed, for me there is a benefit to connecting to the internet, ads notwithstanding. I will pay extra to opt out of them.

@limkloosterboer

3 ай бұрын

Recently only my KZread app for whatever reason presents me Asian news, while I'm in Europe. And it won't refresh. Not even after an re-install, nor is it a DNS issue. Otherwise Netflix would certainly flip. But it's beyond ridiculous that we might be forced to see ads in menu's or apps whilst society is so hard on 'giving consent'. I really do feel violated

@MatthewBrannickWilliam

3 ай бұрын

Never even thought about that possibility. I would never comply with such nonsense. I'd either stick with an old TV that didn't require or work at finding some kind of work around

@ModeMan101

3 ай бұрын

There seem to be a lot less people concerned about the implications of piracy than there are about seeing ads.

@YuanLiuTheDoc

3 ай бұрын

I use a Hisense U8H-U8K with Ethernet so I am able to disable WiFi. When I got U8K thanks to Hisense support, I already had a year's worth of experience with the combination of Apple TV and Google TV, and decided that I was not missing anything if I forego Google TV. So, I reset U8K to dumb TV. But if I also unplug Ethernet, even the dumb TV will prompt me upon restart, upon wakeup, and occasionally during programs that my Internet is off. This does not make me happy. During the few hours (cumulative) of unplugged use, I haven't experienced any real problem except that annoyance from the prompt. For me, this is a consumer choice problem. Either you can sell me a true dumb TV (not going to happen as you have already laid out in one episode of You Asked), or you can give me the option to turn the TV dumb including not having to have Internet connection. I wouldn't mind having to connect to the Internet for specific tasks such as firmware update, but not all the time.

Vizio was my first big screen tv in 2007. They made it possible for a person without a lot of extra money to afford one those TVs back then. That was a day I’ll never forget. So I’ll always have a soft spot for Vizio. I rock a 77 lg oled today. Things have come a long way!

@Alphahydro

3 ай бұрын

Probably was still 1k

@CantankerousDave

2 ай бұрын

Same, I bought a 32” Vizio set back on 2007 that’s still running strong.

when I see too many ads I actively ignore the product or service.

@williamjones7821

Ай бұрын

Me too. Spectrum / TimeWarner is carpet-bombing my mailbox, and a certain African-American "comedian" comes on TV to describe how he bought a basketball team with his credit card. I will not do business with them. EVER.

Makes me even happier to have a growing Blu-ray collection. I was just thinking the other day all I want is a monitor. Not a TV with streaming or wifi. Just a big old display that does 4K HDR, Dolby vision etc. doesn't even need speakers because who uses tv speakers on a 85" tv anyway.

@miguellee3

3 ай бұрын

Dude, I’ve always been pro streaming and for digital content (for ease of use), but I’ve been reflecting on that stance as of late. I’m not liking where the industry is heading.

@bzdtemp

3 ай бұрын

Philips makes some nice monitors where they use panels meant for TV's. I have one I have used for 5+ years now and still going strong, it has both HDMI and Displayports and more recent models of course support HDR and all that.

@blueprint7

3 ай бұрын

You're just buying clutter.

@GarrettTobyC13

3 ай бұрын

I'm about to start a 3d Blu ray collection. I can't for the life of me find a legal way to purchase and download a sbs 3d movie!

@itsneight1260

3 ай бұрын

@@blueprint7 LOL... enjoy your brainwashing ads.

I have a Nvidia Shield TV Pro 2019 plus Rokus and a Fire Stick but I just bought a micro PC for HTPC service. I haven't had a HTPC in a decade but because of ads here we go again.

@deepee1544

3 ай бұрын

How does one load up an HTPC with movies and shows nowadays?

@dkindig

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, Shield here too, piping Kodi through it, have been holding off on an HTPC until they got 4k HDR sorted out properly...

Last week I opened Amazon Prime (first time in a month or more, I’ve been an Amazon Prime member since it launched) and that new ad revenue scheme was first thing I saw. Trying to shake me down for yet more money. I already, like many of us, subscribe for the free shipping service as well as the tv stuff. I’m seriously reconsidering if the free shipping is worth it.

@ruger6049

2 ай бұрын

Same. I was just thinking that yesterday. Trying to justify to myself why I need Prime. We don't watch Prime Video much. For us, we have to navigate a sea of foreign films that we have zero interest in. It's bad enough that we don't bother unless we know exactly what we are searching for. Trying to pick a show randomly is futile and refuse to do it.

@andreamitchell4758

2 ай бұрын

tankfully I still have 2 4k sticks with updates blocked, too bad the 4k sticks have garbage wifi and theyr drop connection all the time even when tey are less than a foot from the router. But I will NEVR buy another fire stick unless it is able to have updates blocked and ads removed the full screen video ads on boot or wake up is the last straw for me I donlt even use my TV's anymore besides that all content is garbage these days anyways

I bought a 39in Vizio regular non smart TV on sale for $109 from Walmart in 2018/2019 not long before everything went smart(was super cheap at the time)and its still going strong.

I will literally pay double for a tv that doesn't do this. I hate this timeline so much. Piracy is set to rise once more I think

@Caleb_Denison

3 ай бұрын

I agree 100 percent. Two things are coming back: CDs for music, and Bit Torrent for piracy.

@deepee1544

3 ай бұрын

​@@Caleb_Denison CD's never went anywhere 😊

@Caleb_Denison

3 ай бұрын

@@deepee1544 True, but I suspect demand is about to skyrocket and, along with it, pricing. Like the vinyl surge, what’s now a great deal will soon be overpriced!

@deepee1544

3 ай бұрын

@@Caleb_Denison yeah, I'm in Canada and one can barely buy a new release CD for less than $20 anymore.

@ModeMan101

3 ай бұрын

@@deepee1544 Neither did piracy, unfortunately.

So people actually watch ads? I mute the remote and check my computer or something when one appears.

@scottboettcher1344

3 ай бұрын

One thing I like about the KZreadTV streaming service is the unlimited DVR; I watch nothing "live". I wait until a show (news, live sports) is half-over and then ask Siri to jump ahead 2, 3, 4 or 8 minutes every time a block of commercials comes on.

@andreisandulescu9171

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. They make for a good bathroom break.

You can't even watch your own property without watching an ad first. My next TV is going to be a computer monitor. I watch streaming on a Linux computer, anyway. I want full control over my TV, and I'll save up if I have to. I mostly just watch KZread and Twitch. Otherwise, streaming services are garbage. Get out there and buy your stuff and physical discs while you can.

@brucenorman8904

3 ай бұрын

Went to my local Walmart yesterday morning, their DVD section was basically gutted, extremely limited selection. Lots of empty slots.

@lvsluggo007

2 ай бұрын

Straight monitors are gettting seriously hard to find.. And if/when you do, they're often significantly more expensive than an equivalent 'smart-tv".

@robertgaines-tulsa

2 ай бұрын

@@lvsluggo007 Wait, they don't make computer monitors anymore?

@lvsluggo007

2 ай бұрын

@@robertgaines-tulsaI'm sure there are a few, usually very large (70-100") and VERY expensive. Pretty much all tvs today are smart-tvs. Smart-tvs have HDMI ports so you can *use* a smart-tv as strictly a monitor, just don't connect to the internet..

When a chain store has enough money to purchase a 2.3 billion dollar company, it's clear to me their retail prices are way too high.

honestly, whenever these businesses put ads on everything, it just tells me not to do business with them, I have adblockers installed for a reason, they are only reinforcing my reasoning

@dennispennington9773

2 ай бұрын

I have ad blockers and I hate ads. When watching regular OTA TV ads come on strong but they do not appear to be affecting me much. This is because I do not buy brand named products.

the whole world is just a giant billboard, just nonstop advertisements everywhere. Mankind has peaked

It's worth mentioning that you can still buy a disc player, a library, and leave your TV offline. Even further, there are completely legit options for digitizing a physical library. Walmart doesn't actually own anyone just yet, you can still save yourselves.

I've had 4 Visio's. The first had two mainboard replacements, Costco let me (they suggested it when I was shopping for a tv to replace it) return it after 2 years and said board replacements. Then we got another, it went back before 90 days as it started acting screwy. My wifes dad had one that we ended up with, and it didn't like turning on unless you unplugged it and plugged it back in. The only one I've had luck with is a small one in my shop. 25% success rate.... Won't buy anymore, and they'll likely be worse being owned by Walmart.

I trained my brain over the years to block-out all ADS. AD pops-up... my highly skilled brain immediately switches to "ignore mode". 😆

@joshgomez7522

3 ай бұрын

I mute the ads when im watching on the tv or read the comments when I'm on my phone.

@mavfan1

3 ай бұрын

keep telling yourself that.

@mtnjhutch

3 ай бұрын

Intermission time is ad time. Bathroom breaks, snacks, I do anything but watch them

@TheCyberMantis

3 ай бұрын

@@mtnjhutch Exactly. Commercials come on, i'm in the kitchen or the bathroom. 😁

@lvsluggo007

2 ай бұрын

The mute button is your friend

Im sticking with Roku. I love my tv.

I used to work for an electronics/circuit board manufacturer. We would have training classes every two or three years. Our trainer told us in one training class, to never buy a TV from Walmart! It may be a name brand TV, but when they are manufactured for Walmart, they are made cheaper.

@lvsluggo007

2 ай бұрын

Opps.. my bad then... I've bought two tvs from Walmart. one a 32" Samsung TV (not a smart-tv) about 10 years ago and a TCL/Roku "smart-tv" about 7 years ago that is "castrated" and is used strictly as a monitor for AppleTV..

I canceled Prime the day ads started.

I turned off the WiFi on my C2 because the interface was a mess! Web OS is horrible so I just use it on an Apple TV. It worries me how everyone is adding ads to their services as it it was nothing - when that was the whole reason to “cut” cable

@weston407

3 ай бұрын

LOL same!! I have the exact same TV and use an Apple TV 4K

@ryans413

2 ай бұрын

My C1 is just as bad I literally only use the Apple TV app to use Paramount Plus and I use Crave so I can get HBO Max. Sometimes I use Netflix and You Tube but I mostly use those through my 4K Blu Ray player to avoid the adds. WebOs is awful i turned off the setting that automatically boots the tv to WebOs it’s on by default.

One question, will the TV's work when not connected to the internet for month's to years?

Great video. I have an older Samsung 55”. I opened the back and disconnected the smart board. It works perfectly for cable, DVD and Apple TV and of course antenna TV. I’ll be dropping the cable soon. Oh, and I have an LG too, and I don’t connect it to the internet. It’s 2 years old, no problems.

For anyone unaware, with Google TVs selecting "basic TV" mode during the initial setup bypasses the need to sign in to anything or ever connect to your network. Combine this with the "power on to last used input" setting and you will never need to interface with the home screen. 4K-capable Roku boxes are like $40 if you still want access to streaming services.

Cory Doctorow calls this process "ensh*ttification."

Where can I get the "free" ad supported TV??

When I worked at Walmart decades ago they had Emerson for the store brand. I guess Vizio will be the new store brand and everyone will be able to afford one lol.

I still have a TV I bought back in 2013. Still works and I have full control over it. You can't escape a smart TV these days.

@lvsluggo007

2 ай бұрын

But you CAN "castrate" said "smart-tv".. If you don't have the chops to do it, there's likely a teenage boy on your block who CAN, for a small fee...

This has been a very, very long time in coming. (And I'm not exactly celebrating that it's arrived.) Way back in the day, around 2000 - 2003, I worked on the Walmart account at one of their agencies. At the time, Tivo was going to start letting advertisers put extra content onto Tivo boxes that users could, if they really wanted to, watch. So, not so bad for the end user as it was 100% a choice to view. Walmart wanted in on it and wisely knew they'd have to make something people wanted to watch as opposed to their standard commercials (of which I helped created quite a few). I was tasked with writing something that was chock full o' Walmart products while being enjoyable (which all good ads are, but most ads are not). So I wrote a six or seven-minute mini-show that was basically "Arrested Development" set in a retirement community with Seinfeld's parents. Remember the time frame. Walmart approved it, but the whole she-bang eventually fell through, much to my dismay. I did manage to repurpose the script by removing all the product placement, but dang it, "Golden Acres" was gonna be a blast.

I've turned ad watching into a little game. I'm literally talking smack to my TV of how horrible each product is that comes on. I can't be the only weirdo that does this.

My LG doesn't connect to the internet. It connects to a mini-PC that handles all streaming and local media for it. I do see some ads but miss a lot of the behaviors I hear friends and family complain about. It's nice :)

This is why I love 4k Blu-Rays and OTA TV. I won't call them constants, but they are known variables.

I'm so glad I scrapped all my streaming services last year. I ONLY watch stuff I own on physical media, so the only ads I'm getting right now are the subway product placements in Chuck lol

@daneg

3 ай бұрын

I have a very large optical disc library transferred to Plex. but...uh...the places that sell discs are disappearing. and the prices are high because (e.g.) you don't have best buy offering $5 door buster blurays anymore. so I'm not sure how much longer I'll even be able to add new movies/shows to my collection. streaming killed physical media and not they're forcing commercials down your throat. it's like the worst case scenario for consumers.

I've never seen an ad like he mentioned he saw on a Sony TV on my Sony TV. Who is buying Vizio TVs in the first place? 🤣

@joe45678tc

2 ай бұрын

18 million people according to the video.

@jimv1983

2 ай бұрын

@@joe45678tc I feel bad for those Vizio buyers considering how high the failure rate is within the first three years of ownership.

Glad I bought my Vizio 85” set a couple years ago.

Fun story, I worked at BestBuy 2010ish this guy came in and said he had a Visio tv giving him some issue(I think he wanted a universal remote) I said instinctly "oh the tv from Walmart" and then he lost it...yelling things out loud, interacting with other employees, to the point security escored him out. He said stuff like" This guy thinks I shop at Walmart, what an asshole, im gona xyz him" he just went nuts being very noisy and angry that I realized he may have been a Walmart shopper....

Caleb is gonna be taken out by some agent for hire from Walmart

@Caleb_Denison

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like I should hire body guards on Fiver?

Apple will eventually implement some type of ads that aren’t as intrusive as other platforms, but will continue to be the best streaming platform in the business.

@Stroker-Z28

3 ай бұрын

That's funny!

@BruceRichwineJr

3 ай бұрын

@@Stroker-Z28 what’s so funny? What device even comes close to the Apple TV where ads are not an issue? Plus, there isn’t a device that’s even close to the fluidity of the interface.

@blmartech

21 күн бұрын

​@@BruceRichwineJrNvidia sheild ...

@BruceRichwineJr

20 күн бұрын

@@blmartech nah, I’ve had that too. Unless you’re a tinkerer/pirate it doesn’t mesh with an entire ecosystem as well as the Apple TV. If you have an iPhone which most people do, at least here in the US, it’s a no brainer.

@blmartech

20 күн бұрын

@@BruceRichwineJr most people do not have iPhones. Women do, but definitely not men. Nvidia meshes just fine unless you have a locked down apple ecosystem that isn't friendly.with anything that isn't apple. Who h is one very good reason to always avoid apple products.

You think you have problems, ten years ago I had a difficult time finding a TV that would process an analog signal. I am not looking forward to being disappointed "by can't process analog signal TVs", Just because it has a yellow RCA input jack doesn't mean your VCR signal will display. (if it isn't broken, don't try to fix it)

RE: the future quality of Vizio hardware: Walmart is a discount TV seller. I doubt they're gonna start competing with SONY, Samsung, and LG over QD-OLED/Neo QLEDs. everything in their electronics section is relatively low tier. agree that we might have seen the last of the Vizio OLEDs.

you dont' actually own your TV anymore....

@tim3172

3 ай бұрын

How so? If you take it offline they come and take it from you?

Say it with me people.....CHIIIINAAAAH!

Does anyone else remember when Compaq bought Alta-Vista because they thought they could control the browser market and subsequently the eyeballs of web users. Maybe V2 of hardware company buys eyeballs will work out better.

What i'm surprised about is no movie/manufacturer has thought of combining what products/items were in the movie and provide a list/link to said product within the show or movie. Especially like the advertisement TV with items popping up and scrolling through as they are being shown on the screen. This was, people can choose to purchase anything and everything being shown. and provide a quick link to additional similar items or services. Interactive IMDB for products per movies/shows.

will Vizio become onns now in tv market ? will you be force to run internet to make tv work? i only run internet thru desktop.

I recently bought a LG OLED TV. I only use it to connect to my HTPC (home theater PC) through a HDMI port. I never use streaming. To avoid any future ads can't I just disconnect the TV from the internet?

The subscription costs and ads have me right back where I started when I cut the cord 15yrs ago, b4 smart TVs and I had to build a streaming PC 😡

This awesome! Gas station TV in the home instead of just at the pump!

Thank You 😀, very informative!

Hey Caleb!! Speaking of Vizio, could you say/mention some things about insignia TV’s? If I recall correctly they had parts from bigger name TV’s in them. I used to own some insignia TV’s and they were decent ‘budget’ TV’s. I realize they aren’t ’high tech’ or multiple-thousand dollar TV’s but they could be included with Hisense, TCL and the new Walmart Vizio TV’s. What company owns insignia TV’s? Where are they made? Are they a decent option, Hisense and tcl not withstanding? Or, just some info on insignia TV’s please? I mean, there could be some folks who don’t know insignia is a budget option. I know they won’t compare to Hisense and tcl but they could be another budget option for people looking for ‘just a tv’ and some may not want to buy a Walmart Vizio tv. Besides, though your info is excellent, not all of your viewers prefer to spend $2, 3 thousand dollars or more on a tv that’ll only last 7-10 years. They could be a good option for kids, rental property, businesses, etc.. Thanks for all you do. Keep up the good work. Take care and stay safe, Phillip J.

@scowlistic

3 ай бұрын

I think Best Buy owns Insignia.

The new thing You Tube is doing with ads is giving the option to "skip" after a certain amount of time (like they've been doing already), BUT when you click, it doesn't respond and continues to play the ad in its entirety. The other thing I've noticed is that often once an ad starts, you can't even "stop" play and some ads are 3 minutes long!!! Those don't even give you the "skip" option, (which by the way does actually work on some ads, but not all like it used to). I have to refresh the screen and reload the page to get them to stop.

Plasma might have to make a comeback for me after learning about all this.

Seeing how I am watching you in a Brave browser session on my TV I doubt Walmart will have any effect on my TV viewing lol.

What about the vidaa platform, will it be affected?

I LOVED your video... I cut the cable 10+ years ago and don't watch TV at all. So I am sitting here pretty smug. OK, OK, I do get my news over the net but we have mute and skip options ( for now)

@4:36 - "That's not an original take." Then he proceeds to give us a longwinged explanation of said take. What a funny guy.

I recently purchased an 48 inch LG OLED TV, I use it as a computer monitor. The old 4K TV just defaulted to HDMI-1 every time. The new LG comes up on a screen that shows current videos to watch. So far I haven't found a way for it to default to HDMI-1. I'm sure I will be seeing advertisements on it pretty soon.

6 year old vizio still going strong, but I switched to the TCL 5 series for my basement. Might have to revisit Vizio. Sale price since the acquisition is insane. 348 for 65" V series and 248 for 50" V series.

@kkir5004

3 ай бұрын

I bought my 65' for 298

I run a flat antenna to the TV for rare over-the-air events like the Super Bowl, and an HDMI cable from the computer to the TV. There is a cat hookup too, but I do not use it.

TV has always been about advertising. I can remember that back in the late 50s some TV personality saying that our favorite TV shows were nothing more than a way to keep you interested between commercials so you didn't turn off the television.

I usually get my electronics from my friend. He gets really nice stuff and every so often he updates it and I usually get his old stuff which is really good. I haven’t bought a TV in 25 years because he just gives me really nice ones. Rocking a 65 inch Sony now

I used a Vizio 32 inch for my computer monitor. Aside from the unusual 1366 x 768 resolution it worked perfectly. Windows detected it just fine, no blurring or artifacts. Games played great.

I just bought a Vizio TV a couple of months ago, so I'm curious about what this means...

I will be prioritizing that NON SMART TV for spring!

The fate of my smart TV was sealed DECADES ago. I don't watch TV, have not owned a TV at all in decades, have never had ANY interest in a so-called "smart TV". Had nothing to do with Walmart or - who the heck is Vizio?

According to several sources, Roku just filed a patent application for a mechanism where they can detect when HDMI video has paused. They will actually put commercials over your paused DVD -- when you bought that DVD WITHOUT commercials.

Caleb. I am looking to replace a sony bravia kdl 46ex400 with a similar size TV for my living room. Its brightness is slowly fading but it's still brighter than the LG 4k TV in my bedroom. Solutions for ads on TV that can run for over an minute is to build a Raspberry Pi Hole.

My Seiki 4K dumb TV hit 10 years old about a month ago. Praying I get another 10+ years out of it.

Vizio is the only TV I've had to consistently freeze while changing channels to the point of having to unplug it.

I run vizio 32 inch TVs as cheap monitors. I don't even connect them to my network. My actual TV is a 720p unit from 2007 or so with a roku, Chromecast, DVD player and antenna. I don't feel I'm missing out. If I want to stream I do it at my PC.

Okay, so what happens if I choose not to connect the TV to the internet and set up a different system like say using it for a computer monitor? I wouldn't get the smart TV functionality, but I'm not really interested in that.

I DVR almost everything I like to watch. This way I can zip right through all the commercials. As an avid sports watcher I no longer lose precious time watching all those ads and I can use that time doing more useful things. I’m wondering when the advertisers are gonna find a way to overcome this very useful feature. If there’s a hundred ads I’ll, maybe, be interested in three of them. It makes me so happy knowing all the $$$ advertisers spend trying to get me to buy their products is going right down the crapper!

Another great video Caleb this has got to be one of the best programs on KZread

I have a 43" Vizio 3D TV (42.5" screen) bought about 8 to 10 years ago. Cost about $600 back then, now it's $370.

I bought a Series about 4 years ago and that was the last Vizio I bought. I have switched to LG and love it. Vizio fell off and now they have been bought by Walmart. I rarely and I mean rarely buy anything from Walmart so I am good for now.

I sort of wonder if the smart TV platform is going to get upgrades that will allow it to take over for the TV brand commercials under the new ATSC update, that looks to be allowing broadcasters to prevent you from skipping commercials, or in some cases even recording programs for later viewing. (It wouldn't surprise me if they figure out how to set up the signal so that if you turn the TV off in a commercial even by way of unplugging the TV from the wall mains, when you turn the TV back on, you won't be able to continue to watch that episode, until it's in re-runs.) However I can see TV's from Vizio or Amazon or the like that figure out how to drop in their own ads right at the TV, and have it all set up so that any time the TV is being tested for such shenanigans, that just doesn't happen. Note that I remember when Babylon was being fed to TV stations in the PTEN network that people could get a commercial insert schedul off the leader to the ipisode going out over the satelite network. I'm sure it was happening for a lot of other syndicted but locally scheduled shows, and may even be happening for things like Wheel of Fortune now (and the like.) My recollection was that the leader drop/insert schedule was being picked up and re-broadcast on UsenetNews so that people could plan their own viewing experience. All that said, I can see the possibility that someone like Wallmart might work out that they can pull one or more of the local broadcast commercial insert windows, to drop in their own ad of the right durration, then push it out in the nightly updates for the next day's viewing eyeballs. Some day we may even get to enjoy Blipverts.

Make sure to watch our Vizio Quantum Pro review: kzread.info/dash/bejne/haGpwdOYlKS6k9Y.html

been wanting companies to advertise like you just said, imagine all the products done in a movie-type theme without all the BS jargon we normally listen too.

I'm glad my old 2000 model Zeneth tv, with rabbit ears antenna, still works.

The AWB album on the floor warms my soul. I use Apple TV as my interface on 3 TV because of the adware