I hope you get that sound figured out. Glad the mower is working operational wise. Great video, Randy.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

It is very interesting that you're talking about Walker lawn mower sounds because I live in an apartment complex whose maintenance department has a Walker mower just like this one. It has a normal engine sound when it runs without the blades engaged --- but when the blades are engaged the mower makes a strange, almost musical kind of hum that sounds almost as if two brass horns are playing one continuous double-note in complete harmony with each other, and when this mower deck sound is mixed with the engine sound at random while the mower is mowing, it sounds almost as though some kind of orchestra were playing. --- though it's a continuous hum of engine noise and mower deck noise mixed together. That is so weird. I have never encountered a riding lawn mower that sounds like that. Another weird thing is that YOUR lawn mower doesn't sound like that. If I ever got to make a KZread video of the mower used at this apartment complex, I would title it "Singing Lawnmower" or something like that.

@CountrysideStrong

3 жыл бұрын

Lol nice

That is the way my walkers sound. Sounds smooth when I get in think grass. I just figured it was drive line slop. The sound of the blades bouncing ahead & then slowing back down only to be pushed again.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

You must have the same issue then

@07martin1981

7 ай бұрын

This gets my vote as well.

This might be a dumb question because I haven't paid attention in all of your previous videos running this machine. Have you run your 56" off the B19 with this machine? Suggesting it because you know the B19 runs quietly with that deck. Maybe the noise is actually coming from something other than the deck but requires a torque load from the deck/blades. Just curious, I know you've been dealing with this issue for a while. Hope you get it sorted out!

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

No but I've run the other 56 I bought for this machine and that one doesn't do it

Man, you do a good job and always staying busy.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Your know it buddy

Sound travels . What about the shaft from under the mower you hooked the new drive shaft pieces to . Slight bent , cracked spline , bad u joint ? Maybe the sound is farther back ?

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I followed it. That's exactly what I had thought

I feel ya man, when you hear something that is different with equipment or even vehicles that really only you can hear will drive you crazy...lol but you will figure it out.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I'll get it eventually only a matter of time I guess

Wow! That would drive me crazy not being able to figure it out 🤷‍♂️

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Oh it is for sure

Gotta love a walker...

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Love/hate lol

I bet it’s the gearbox controlling the balance of the blades turning.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

It's very possible

I’d power wash the deck I know that you say nothing is hitting, but I have a new c19i and we were mowing early fall and a lot of customers had aerated there yards. I had a weird sound coming from the deck after mowing so I power washed the deck and here was no more weird sound coming from the deck. Just a suggestion best of luck to ya love the videos keep em coming!

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy

It sounds like with the blades on, your giving the grass fan extra turbulence, and the blades in the fan are rubbing just so ever slightly in the housing, I would take a really close look into the fan housing, I hit a rock, and bent one of the blade in the fan, and took me forever to find the noise, it sounded very similar to yours.

Flip the deck up and check every little Piece of the deck maybe you have a crack weld from when the gearbox broke and when the blades Are in rotation A broken weld might be flexing the deck and making that sound because of the momentum of the blade spinning just Maybe something stupid like that good luck

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

That's a very good point. I went thru it about a month ago thinking the exact same thing

@alastairduncan1944

4 жыл бұрын

My 42 deck sounds the same and I've never busted a gearbox or cracked the deck.. not to say I havent gone thru a few shear pins tho 🤣🤔

Welcome to Country Side Lawn where we are so good at fixing things we fix the same thing 4 times

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, who are you?

@Crappiestalker

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong wait hold up! That comment has no bearing on the fix. He knowns the sounds and if that mower doesn't sound right he is like me I will spend hours and go to the Moon to fix it to my liking. Good video it shows you care about your mowers the maintenance and if it's not right you will go to the end of the fix. If it don't make you happy find it enother home. Good job

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@Crappiestalker lol he was just playing around. We bust each other's balls all the time.

@Crappiestalker

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong ok you know I got your back and I am a big fan of yours because you work on your on mowers. I like your channel alot and the post kinda got me off guard lol

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@Crappiestalker lol I know you do. Thanks buddy

Keep the spine grease often with high temperature grease

Nice video! Very helpful to me as I have never seen a crack in PTO shaft as I will now be aware of that. As far as sound it did sound tingy to me but hard tell from a video and I know you said in videos blades are not hitting the deck but I would double check it. Sometimes those bandings ware thin and break/get thin and they vibrate in and hit the blades and it's hard to where it touches. Maybe to confirm that is to put on your 56" blades on it as they will be shorter, do both sides with the short 56 blades and then switch to one 56 short blade and 48 blade on each side to see what it does. Also try without versamow blades again and put just the 2 48" blades for just checking. Good luck

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

That's a great idea, thank you

I’ve heard it, check the engine area like lose engine cover or something similar

Gosh Randy that sucks I wish there was something I could suggest but I’m stumped too! I know I’m hearing it from my computer and I know it’s not like being there live but dang it sounds just like my new one and my older one but I hear ya that you can’t let it go I’m the same way! Keep at it when you least expect it it will show its self and you’ll slap the side of you r dome and say “ Damn I should of had a v8” ....lol all kidding aside you’ll find it. Had to laugh though with you putting that wrench on the snorkel so it don’t hit ya I can’t begin to tell you how many battle scars I’ve got from that sucker slamming me...lol anyway hang in there spring is coming 👍

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy, I'll figure it out..... Eventually 😭

Try some gear oil additive. There is a dizzying number of them available to address noise problems. You will have to do some research. A Kubota dealer recommended Lucas to me.

Discharge fan can make a lot of noise and sounds

I don’t claim to know much and I could barely hear the noise through my phone speaker. Do you think running it in your garage on the cement is causing the noise to reverberate and to seem louder than it really is? Just a thought... I know when I operate my walker in an enclosed space, every noise seems 5x louder. Solution? Ear protection! “Out of ears out of mind!” 😂

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Lol I took it outside to make sure. The specific sound is very distinct

@thelawnpastor2077

4 жыл бұрын

Countryside Vlogs gotcha. Bummer. It’s never the easy way, is it? I hope you figure it out!

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@thelawnpastor2077 nope but I never give up.... Lol

How many hours on gear box brging They probably need to be replaced 😊

Are the baffles loose? Is one vibrating? Or remove baffles to see if the noise is the air being pushed and add back sections and try. Just some thoughts good luck.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

The baffles aren't removable

Ware did you get those x blades? I was told you couldn't use those on a walker I want to bye them asap

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Versimow website

Deffinately sounds tingy making me think towards looking at the cups on blades

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I'm thinking

I havent watched all the videos in this process so ignore if need be but does the sound get better when its under load (i e cutting grass)? Maybe the engine has a slight miss and the frequency is just right to create a slight driveline slop. I notice my 56 makes a similar noise if the grass gets real thin and thats what ive always figured it was.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I get what you're saying but no. I'm starting to think one or both of the cups the blades bolt to are screwed up

Gotta wonder if you hit something that put a very small dent (too small to be easily seen ) where the spindles (boxes) mount that is causing a vibration when the blades are spinning. You could test with a glass of water. Take the blades off and run the PTO with the glass sitting over the boxes, then with the blade on. If they are balanced it should look pretty much the same, if the blades are out of balance you should be able to see more water movement

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I talked about that in the video. I fixed the uneven part of the deck

@islandmowing3092

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong didn't catch that about fixing the deck, even a small dent where they mount could cause a lot of vibration at the speed the blades turn

It does not sound like anything is hitting, it sounds like an a sound made by air, possibly something is unbalanced. Check if your shaft going to the blades is perfectly strait or if there is any vertical/ horizontal play. Check the bolt that contain the blades, are the washers on them? Check every piece of metal in the deck and make sure they are firm with no play. ( it could be a piece of metal flapping) If not, it might have something to do with the gearboxes, its a possibility that they are making this noise under the load of the blades. Im no mechanic but that is what I would check if it was my mower.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I hear what you're saying here's the problem. All gear boxes were replaced with brand new aluminum ones. It still did it. Then I replaced all gear boxes with brand new heavy duty cast iron boxes plus brand new shafts. Problem still exists. Everything is new....

@Mack.of.all.trades

4 жыл бұрын

Countryside Vlogs this is weird. I am interested to hear how it will be resolved.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mack.of.all.trades I'm thinking the cups attached to the blades

How about this? I may be totally off track here, but it seems to key on the extra mass of having the blades installed. Perhaps bearing related??? ...just a shot in the dark. I hope you get it fixed. I hope to have a walker someday. I'm happy to have you schooling me now so I know what to expect. Keep up the great video work.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Lol without even watching the video I feelvyiur pain from the screengrab, love to hate and hate to love mine, speaking of, need to hit the 38r8t069r736e6r8r8 grease points *again*

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Lol that's about right

I would check to make sure the blades are square with the deck. Have you tried different cups for the blades. I know you changed at least one of them to run the versimow. Also depending on how wet it is in the spring time the versimow may not work well. It has a tendency to turn the wet grass and leaves into paste.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I did a shit ton of wet leaves and never had any issue at all. Grass, you may be right. I was thinking the cups as well

@cutandcleanwi6947

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong yes it is more the grass then leaves.to me it sounds like something is out of balance or not straight.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@cutandcleanwi6947 that makes sense to me.... Now to find it

The sound might be coming from the Engine

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

When I switch to the 56" deck it doesn't do it. It has to be this deck I would think 🤷

Did you ever figure out what the problem was?

Was wondering if it's a small vibration from residence from blades ,,,, maybe a small Crack in a wield? Good luck...

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

I had a walker once. Great mower and I like that it had direct drive, but too many moving parts for me. And that transfer tube clogging was a giant pain in the butt. Mine was a diesel. Ok, you getting any vibration under your feet or arse? Sounds like it might be a balance issue when you put on the additional versa cut blades, and maybe that’s causing what sounds like a gear noise to me.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I explained and showed in the video that it did it before I started using them. Then I took them off in the video and the noise still persisted. It's annoying the hell outta me

@marcocannon1210

4 жыл бұрын

Countryside Vlogs Ok, did you try it with no blades? I saw you changed out a lot of parts, you think it’s farther back, like in that blower fan , or blower drive?

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcocannon1210 yea the first test was with no blades. Didn't really hear it at all

Now you have me wondering. I’ll have to listen to mine more closely this spring. Off top I want to think they sound similar.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I have a couple other ideas

@alastairduncan1944

4 жыл бұрын

Yea sounds like my one always has with the multi deck we get in nz, I just figured it was what walkers sounded like. Keen as to know what's up with it tho cause that noise does get annoying by the end of the day

I’m sure someone has suggested this, but...could there be a mystery grease fitting you haven’t found and hit with the gun?

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

No, I've covered every one of those. Does sound like it tho

I’d change to a new set of blades and cups and see what you get. How about that support bearing for the rear shaft? Maybe with the load on it, it’s going out of balance

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

That's next on my list. Great points

@marcocannon1210

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Spent almost 40 years in the lawn care business.

sounds to me like your blades are out of balance .....but really it sounds good to me

@CountrysideStrong

2 жыл бұрын

Old video but the tolerances were off inside the gear boxes

Hi, Countryside. This is Nathan King again. Twenty-one hours ago I uploaded a comment about that Walker riding lawn mower at my apartment complex, and I mentioned about the musical sound of a Walker mower. Now I have a KZread video to prove what I'm talk about --- but not a video I made. Instead, go on KZread and enter the following title: "Walker mowers tearing it up in prep of thanksgiving. (Walker T25i)" Then listen to as much of this video as you have time for, preferably the whole thing --- then you'll see what I'm talking about when I mention that these Walker riding lawn mowers sound musical."

@CountrysideStrong

3 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@MyNathanking

3 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong Well thank, you, Countryside --- but did you actually watch that KZread video I asked you to watch? What do you think of that musical Walker lawn mower?

@CountrysideStrong

3 жыл бұрын

No I don't have time right now I'll watch it when I get time

@MyNathanking

3 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong I understand your not having time right now. I'm just anxious for you to see that video I told you about and hear that musical lawn mower.

🤔 all these comments about blade cups has me wondering if I should change mine out for the new set I got to try something out that didnt end up working.. so now they just sitting around

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I think that's what I'm trying next

@alastairduncan1944

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong gunna swap mine out this morning before I head off and see if it makes a difference today as I'm doing all my big acreage properties so can run it for a good amount of time

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@alastairduncan1944 there ya go

Gear box cover vibrating against one of the gear boxes with blades on??

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I tried without them on

The sound was less pronounced with the single blades on it but I did still hear it

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

You're exactly right

Hey Randy you Will Figure it out😃

Im guessing you allrady checked but is there any chance that it has something to do with the squirrel cage blower?

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Yea. It's def the deck.

@ripsaw26

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong The only other thing I can think of is that i think the older gearboxes are either geared differently or maybe the bevels on the gears are different. I have a couple late 1990's machines and a 2013 and when i first got the 2013 i thought something was wrong. it could be that the gearing on the jack shaft since its an older mower is slightly different which means that the newer gearboxes aren't running at the ideal RPM. Just a guess LOL. I just put my older machines in storage yesterday but if I had one here I would put my new deck on one and see if it makes any weird sounds.

Maybe it's one of those cups I know you put a new 1 on with that versa Mo kit Maybe try change the other one and see what happens I know this is stupid and you've probly already checked it and I know it doesn't make the noise with the other deck but how's the Gearbox by the blower

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

The cup is exactly what I'm thinking

Let me get this right. You developed this sound after you hit something with the blade?

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Kinda. I changed out the blades and the broken gear box with a used box and it wasn't making the noise. The used box started leaking so I replaced it with a new aluminum one and replaced the other one at the same time because I got a good deal on them. THAT'S when the sound started. I then replaced all 3 boxes with heavy duty cast iron boxes. I just now replaced both drive shaft ends. Noise is still there....

@547Rick

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong Randy, play along. I've got a few questions. I very well could be all wet but I'm not there to put eyes on your problem. Did the deck get bent when you hit something? Even ever so slightly could make a huge difference. Another question: Did you look at the gears for unusual wear points on the second or third gear box replacement?

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@547Rick I checked the deck is in good shape. What I did was caught a blade on a metal shut off in the ground so the actual deck didn't hit anything. But yes I checked that cause ya never know. The gears yes, I went over them carefully and even checked for proper backlash. I'm starting to think I bent, kinked, twisted, etc one or both of the cups the blades bolt to

@547Rick

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong Well something is not the same since your small mishap. I'm sure you will get it sooner of later! I'm sorry it is costing you so much money though.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@547Rick well.... It's really not 😉

Hey all you guys Appreciate all the Feed back and input.All this information is priceles.Avid diy guy

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Do you have a broken/cracked weld on a baffle ?

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

No I checked because I thought the same

I replaced the deck, the gear boxes, the drive shaft, the blades, the oil, the motor, the muffler, the tires, The bagger, repainted and it STILL makes the same noise

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Lol it happens. I kinda stumbled upon the parts soooooo....... No injury to the bank so to speak

Leave shit alone and nothing wouldn’t mess up

I think your on the right track, process of elimination. I wonder if it’s still in the gear boxes. Know you put on new ones, but I wonder if they need to be shimmed or aligned

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking one or both of the cups on the blades are off, bent, etc....

@marcocannon1210

4 жыл бұрын

Countryside Vlogs That would be something I’d be checking out closer, also if the new gear boxes came from China. I think if there is even one part that’s bent or out of balance it will radiate throughout the whole deck because it basically a direct drive. Belts are sloppy and slip, but more forgiving.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcocannon1210 these boxes are made in USA by Pro Gear. I made sure of that and met with them at GIE which is why I went with them.

@marcocannon1210

4 жыл бұрын

Countryside Vlogs That’s good, I’d think you can eliminate that as a cause then. Did you grease the new shafts and universal joints good. I saw you grease the splined shaft with bearing grease, but maybe it’s those joints? It sounds like a metallic sound to me.

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcocannon1210 no because the old ones made same noise and now with the new ones on it's the same sound. Yes I greased everything

Both of mine sound the same. I gave up trying to find out the problem

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking you may be on to something 🤦

@michaelswartz6974

4 жыл бұрын

They sounded like that on the first days I bought them. Both are 2018 models

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelswartz6974 that sucks. My 56's don't and neither did this one till recently

My 42 deck don’t sound like that but the 48 those so it’s just the deck

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Nope

@alastairduncan1944

4 жыл бұрын

My 42 sounds like that haha

Is any part of the blade hitting any part of the deck

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Nope. Covered that in the video

@fragglerock122

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong hmmmm

@fragglerock122

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong the blower fan isnt hittin anything either

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@fragglerock122 no it's def the deck. I'm stumped...... For now

I bet Roscoe can figure it out !

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Nope he's been racking his brain too

Set it on far

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Amen brother

I just spend 3780 to tune up my t23 this machines are jokes

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Holy crap

@juniorcosta85

4 жыл бұрын

Spoke with the dealer and they said the machine breaks so much because of the amount of mowing we do... its funny because its a commercial mower its supposed to be able to do 20 to 25 lawns per day

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@juniorcosta85 he's full of crap. Walkers are one of the few Mowers on the market that hot the 5k hour range and keep going. So many guys constantly posting about how their Walker is an older 80's or early 90's and still cutting everyday

@juniorcosta85

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong randy done with Walkers since it cost so much in order to maintain the damn thing we have a starder x with 600 hours on it and the thing hasn't missed a beat

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@juniorcosta85 sorry you've had bad luck. I do all my work myself so I don't have to worry about the high fees but other than regular maintenance which for me is no different than all my other mowers, my Walkers still outlast anything I've had

Blade toutching sidère of deck at high speed

The D in The Blade Cups are Worn Out 😐😩😐

I think your deck might be bent a little

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

You may be right

My walker sounds the same as ur so there is no point for me to change the gearboxes

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't say you should

Oh well.it hit you one day then you will say okay let,s get this fixed .i had to out bearing,s on my pull behind yard cart today caught 7734 getting the remain,s of the made in china junk out long story short it,s done exept one wheel.waiting on 2 more bearing,s .peace out manic mechanic ✌️

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@robertmailhos8159

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountrysideStrong okay

Why are you repairing your walker

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

Is there some kind of joke I'm missing?

@logansimpson305

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t know why your repairing it

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@logansimpson305 did you even watch the video. I clearly explained why in the video.

@logansimpson305

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t have my headphones to listen to it

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@logansimpson305 then why are you commenting. Listen to the video please and then comment

Your deck is possessed, get rid of it and get yourself a 52 inch you’ll like it better anyway!!! 🤣🤣🤣

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

That would be a waste of money. I need this 48 for certain areas and I have (2) 56's so a 52" would be pointless. Besides, the 52 for a Walker is belt driven..... No thanks

@alanclouner7021

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a 52 gear driven deck don’t they make them anymore, might have to live with that sound my friend as long as it’s preforming well!!!! 🤷‍♂️

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@alanclouner7021 when I bought my B a couple years ago I was originally gonna get a 52. That's when I found out it was belt drive only

@alanclouner7021

4 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure they still make the 52 gear driven collection deck, anyway could your blades be off somehow? You could always try new blades, hubs and shear bolts!!! Im out of options mate!!!

@CountrysideStrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@alanclouner7021 you may be correct. I was looking for side discharge. I'm sorry