Wow.. I was at that game as a 17 yo and can vividly remember McKechnie kicking the penalty.. brilliant. The All Blacks played Monmouthshire on that tour.. and to hear the late great Bill McLaren’s voice again has made my day…👌👌👌👌

@ShadowMan66

Ай бұрын

I was there too as a 12 year old with my Grandfather in the main stand, Rugby seemed better back then.

Brian McKechnie kicked the winning goal in a very controversial finish, then in 1981 he faced the infamous underarm bowl in cricket.

@thewelshsportnostalgiachan4301

Жыл бұрын

To be fair he was a great all round sportsman

@richardbudd8611

Ай бұрын

The dive was our underarm moment

The smile on my face that day is the same as watching the game just now. Brilliant.

Another incident in this match which is now forgotten was Welsh midfielder Steve Fenwick breaking Clive Curries jaw in a head high tackle which ended Curries rugby career.Even back then it could have been a sending off. Not going to defend Andy Hadens embarrassing lineout antics to gain a penalty but the penalty did go against Geoff Wheel for putting his hand on Frank Olivers shoulder.

@johntate5722

Ай бұрын

Just seen the "tackle"...appalling...i know it was different then...no-one said anything....today it would be instant red card and maybe more ie a citing

@jintsfan

23 күн бұрын

That late line out. Exemplifies what many think, that the All Blacks mentality to win …. within and without the rules ?

The voice of 🏉

JPR always there with the 'bone-shattering tackle' in the nick of time

Englishman here. Not seen these old Welsh games before. Fantastic stuff. Two things. Oh how I miss Bill McLarens commentary and my new rugby hero is Steve Fenwick! Tackling like a madman. Brilliant.

@jj9749

5 ай бұрын

He broke Clive Currie's jaw early on, should have got a prison sentence for that tackle

Penalty aside, that dive was cynical. Diving in an attempt to get penalties is more widely seen in soccer!

@barrysamson5139

3 ай бұрын

Oliver was pushed. Wheel was penalised. What's the issue? Deans was carried back which means the ABs are undefeated (if you want to go there).

Thanks a lot for this. Bill Bush and Steve Fenwick should've walked in the first half! Are you posting any more classic games?

@thewelshsportnostalgiachan4301

4 жыл бұрын

Yes definitely a sin binning at least for those two in today's game lol. Yes be posting some more classic rugby, and wales footie and glamorgan cricket shortly - mean spirited copywrite strikes permitting. Posted a couple of other classic matches along with this one the other day.

@martybourke2428

2 жыл бұрын

Steve Fenwick first head high was when Bill Bush took offence to being punched by a Welsh foward so why send just Bill Bush off. Its rugby man

@martybourke2428

7 ай бұрын

Welsh hooker hung one on Billy Bush then the hooker left the scene so Billy tapped next in line, come on what would you do

It all passes into legend. The highlight for me in this video was JPR's tackle on Brian Williams. He did a similar, but harder, one in another game where he stopped Williams in his tracks (he thought he could run-through him....after that he learned to try to tun round him (Grant Batty had learned to chip him). In an interview in the Sunday papers JPR was asked if it hurt tackling that hard, and he said something along the lines of "it hurt Brian Williams a lot more". As for Gareth Davies: a beautiful striker of the ball, especially from hand, but he often kicked when running it looked to be on. Fenwick was a very good player but prone to the red haze - it should have been him sent off at Twickenham, not Ringer, in that infamous game at Twickenham. I was watching with my Father from the old south terrace and he was VERY lucky not to have been sent off. Happy days though!!

@robertford5228

6 ай бұрын

I am so glad that you mention the two standout tackles made by JPR on B. Williams. I tell the story so often and no one else seems to have noticed them. The second one you mention was “titanic”.

@johnf991

6 ай бұрын

Thanks. I used to watch JPR at London Welsh from 68-71 (having played in the morning for my school). That side had the spine of the '71 Lions, of course, including my favourite at the time, Gerald Davies. After that I played on a Saturday afternoon (I was a fly-half) so watching LW wasn't feasible. Happy days!@@robertford5228

@johncourtneidge

3 ай бұрын

@@robertford5228 yes!

@martybourke2428

3 ай бұрын

Brian Mckecnies tackle on Clive Rees was brilliant...Bee Gee ran straight into JPR so standard tackle

@Rotowhaka

3 ай бұрын

@@martybourke2428 and should have got a try, but for that sneaky foot trip that was just enough to slow him up and put him off his stride I’m not to sure which Welshman did it

For years folk were led to believe that Haden's 'dive' had given the All Blacks the game but as many have observed here the penalty was for an offence at the front of the lineout. The game was refereed extremely well by Roger Quittenton, one of the best referees ever.

Is there a recording of this game with the national anthems?

I love these old school games there's 1 play I'm looking for I think it was the baberians vs n.z. it was a try but a total gem of a try for the baberians

@ldfreitas9437

4 ай бұрын

Edward's early on or JPR's late in the match?

Haden felt dizzy, fainted, and fell out off lineout. Entirely innocent of cheating.

Great crowd atmosphere. No stupid music, no dumb flames - just rugby.

As a kiwi I'm disgusted at what Hayden did

@Trajan2401

Ай бұрын

it had nothing to do with the penalty

@troyocarroll

Ай бұрын

You should be disgusted at what Steve Fenwick did to Clive Currie you idiot. Broke his jaw with a flying elbow to the head. Get some perspective clown

@Marius_vanderLubbe

Ай бұрын

All of Wales loves you now. You can retire.

@johnbrosnan3577

Ай бұрын

Fortunately for the All Blacks the ref saw Frank Oliver being taken out, not Hayden's stupidity.

When Wales was in NZ in 2016, I was at the Test in Dunedin. A few weeks later, I was at another function in the stadium and walked out on to halfway line and thought about Wales kicking off from that very spot. Seven times...

RIP ANDY HADEN LEGEND:)

@thewelshsportnostalgiachan4301

Жыл бұрын

a fabulous player, shame bout this incident tho

Had phil bennett retired by this time? Gareth Edwards too?

Why don’t the welsh talk about the tours to NZ in 1969 and 1988 1969 first test 19-0, Second test 33-12, 1988 First test 52-3 Second test 54-9 all wins for NZ But Jonathan did get a length of the field try in that second test of 1988

@Rotowhaka

4 ай бұрын

@@garyduncanson2078 in 1971 it was a lions victory, that is a few Irish, Scots and English, sure Carwyn James was a master Coach, and did a great job coaching the team, but is was the Scotsman Doug Smith, who took this team from 4 different countries and turned it into the unit it was. And it was a Scotsman who got the only try in the first test in 1971 Plus the All Blacks were a new look team after mass retirement. The lions should have won the series 4-0

42:11 what a dive 🤣

@thewelshsportnostalgiachan4301

Жыл бұрын

Tom Daley would have been proud of that dive Michael 😉

Lets put aside the controversy, what a great test match by two great teams (either could have won) that held nothing back at the old Cardiff Arms Park, the best stadium on the planet at the time. I wish I saw a game there before it was replaced by the Millenium stadium.

referee blind as a bat. what an awful piece of cheating at the end.

"The kick" movie should have been made about Brian Mckechnie

@MarsFKA

Жыл бұрын

Or Alan Hewson kicking the winning goal against South Africa at Eden Park in 1981, except he's off the list because he had already cost the All Blacks two tries in that game by letting the (expletive deleted) ball bounce.

Best welsh side ever...I had so much respect for them. NZ

worst referee ever , he knew he made a serious bad call but could never admit it

What a dogs bollocks of a game! That ref could have given Barnes the Barnacle a run in 2023😀😀

Would have to rank right up there with every other win at the death

Must have been big puff of wind to blow that man out of lineout

Brian Williams couldn't hit the side of a barn! 😂😂

UPLOADED BY 99waylon!

Wasn’t the penalty for leveraging off the shoulder by Wheel? Thought so

@ketilflatnose4930

2 жыл бұрын

i believe that's what Quittendon said, and based on his actions, that would seem to be the case. But i vividly remember being scandalised at the time by that dreadful dive, and watching it again has much the same effect. Thanks for posting it!

@wobblertv8083

2 жыл бұрын

Mmmmm that's a very strange point of view .Haydon should have been penalised for the stupid dive .the touch judge should have seen it ......

@michaelcarroll4330

2 жыл бұрын

@@wobblertv8083 The ref, Quittenton, said afterwards that’s what he penalised; but I agree, Haden was out of order. I guess the ref and TJs were not accustomed to watch for diving in those amateur days when all rugby players behaved impeccably 😳🤭🤫😂 ??? But you have to love rugby… here we are 45 years later discussing it 😉😄👍👏

@wobblertv8083

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcarroll4330 That period of rugby 69 to 80 was the golden age of the sport. So many world stars in every team .Club rugby these days all a bit faceless .Probably because players careers are so short .Loved the old days of quick ruck ball off second or third phase that created overlaps .Thank god for players like fin Russell and Marcus Smith .

@ldfreitas9437

4 ай бұрын

@@wobblertv8083 Laws were different. There were no defensive lines. Forwards fought for possession at the tackle point. There was just more space on the pitch therefore.

4:15 Correction Bill: "Nae bither". (from an Englishman).

The late penalty had nothing to do with The All Blacks locks diving. It was against Wheel placing his hand on Oliver's shoulder ! Surely you guys should have moved on after 42 years. More concerning for Wales is that its 67 years and counting since their last win!!!

@richardscanlan3167

4 жыл бұрын

ssshh... let them live in their delusional bubble.Facts have no place here.

@vernonhuen2990

3 жыл бұрын

Oliver made a meal of the hand on the shoulder infringement though and should have been nominated for an Oscar that year...! My geography teacher at Rongotai college, Clive Currie, was the original fullback that day.... he had his jaw broken by Steve Fenwick allowing Mckechnie to enter the game !

@richardscanlan3167

3 жыл бұрын

@@vernonhuen2990 interesting.Clive Currie,eh,now there's a blast from the past.

@martybourke2428

3 жыл бұрын

JPR gets involved in the 99 call fights against australia when playing flanker in 78 gets a tickle when brigend played all blacks and lies on ball handle what u give out

@ketilflatnose4930

2 жыл бұрын

@@vernonhuen2990 that was a pretty awful tackle by Fenwick.

When Clive Currie had his jaw broken, he had already caught the ball and taken the mark Thus it should not have been play on, that result in the Welsh getting a penalty and 3 points

@raywilliams8277

3 ай бұрын

Just another poor decision from a poor referee.

Didn’t it occur to them in those days, to play with a white ball ?

This was for the unofficial world championship. Shame Gareth Phil and Gerald had retired earlier in the year .1953 and still counting .Shocking decision on the penalty .

@martybourke2428

2 жыл бұрын

Shame JPR didnt retire he was shocking in this game

Okay, if we are going to go living in the past, Deans bloody well *did* score!

@thewelshsportnostalgiachan4301

Жыл бұрын

he may have done - but alas theres no footage to confirm it either way. The footage of haden cheating is here for all to see

@MarsFKA

Жыл бұрын

@@thewelshsportnostalgiachan4301 So is the footage of Wheel jumping off Oliver's shoulder, which was why the penalty was awarded. Nothing to do with Haden. Tell you what: you get over yourself about Haden and I'll get over myself about Deans.

@martybourke2428

3 ай бұрын

Great nephew Bruce Dean's did in 89 did tho

Interesting the many informed comments 1. The penalty was not for Hadens dive . The ref stated after the game he knew Haden had dived and ignored it 2. The penalty was for Oliver being jumped off . That’s clear penalty. Any VAR would not have overturned the penalty 3. Wales wasted ball and at no stage looked like scoring. Despite dominating the first half their tactics were boring up and under kicks. Wasted backline talent 4. Fenwick breaking Curries jaw should have been a send off . That’s not tough He ruined a 22 years old career . We call those hits “ coward hits “ as that’s what they are . Currie would have been one of the greats in All Blacjs 5 New Zealand scored tge only try and were the only team trying to score . With what little ball they had , they always looked dangerous. As I said Wales wasted their talent by kicking it hoping NZ mistake . 6. Had VAR been there tgen Wakes would have been down to 14 men and NZ would have easily won

Imagine today Haden would have been the laugh of the rugby world for that pathetic dive out of the line...

@agnostic47

3 жыл бұрын

Haden was the laugh of the rugby world for the rest of his life. He couldn't go anywhere without people ripping the piss out of him.

@rogerorgan5278

Жыл бұрын

Not just Haden! Two of them.

was 12 years old when watched this 3am in the mornin...me and the ol man...........nevr seen dad laugh s much when andy haden got shoved out of tht line out eh

@agnostic47

3 жыл бұрын

The point is that he didn't get shoved.

@user-py4vt3bv7u

6 ай бұрын

@@agnostic47 Actually he did; by Gruffydd Gwalchmai: The legendary Welsh spirit from the valley's of Llanelli.

The Grandslam All Blacks.

Mr quinterton didn't have a good day at the office 😕

@martybourke2428

2 жыл бұрын

Why

@wobblertv8083

2 жыл бұрын

@@martybourke2428 This match was way above his pay grade. Some poor decisions paticularly the hayden incident . All in the mists of time now .Wales loosing run against the All blacks now one of the longest in all sports not won since 1953 ...when cliff Morgan was playing !

@thewelshsportnostalgiachan4301

Жыл бұрын

@@wobblertv8083 if it happened now he would have had a 4th official to spot Haden's antics

@geoffmccaw1497

6 ай бұрын

total ass he sent me off once

@Rotowhaka

5 ай бұрын

@@thewelshsportnostalgiachan4301and at that point of the match Fenwick would have been red carded, NZ would have had a penalty try, Wales would not have had a shot at goal after Clive Currie was injured, as he had already take the Fair Catch, and Fenwick would have been red carded at that play. Don’t forget NZ scored the only try. Thus it all balanced out in the end and the better team on the day won. Anyhow who wants all that interference from the TMO, it is ruining the game in this day and age.

Oh so how the game has changed But Hayden was a dog no different from the Aussie underarm and of course B McKecknie was there for both That should have been a Wales win couldn’t stand Hayden after that an embarrassment as an AB supporter

One word for NZers who watched this game. CRITTENDEN!! There is only one great ref and he is a Welshman.

@Rotowhaka

4 ай бұрын

Yes there is one great Welsh Ref Clive Norling, just ask any Springbok fan and in particular NZ vs SA 3rd test 1981, deep into extra time game is at 22 all Free kick awarded to NZ for footup by Springbok hooker. Free kick upgraded to penalty because dumb arse Springbok forwards dont get out of the way when free kick taken quickly The skinny slight build AB fullback kicks the match and series winning goal The Springboks and South African fans have hated him ever since but his calls at the time were techincally correct

@MarsFKA

Ай бұрын

@@Rotowhaka Ironic that South Africans hate a "biased" referee when, before neutral referees for Tests was enforced, teams playing the Springboks in South Africa knew that they would be playing against 16. In 1976, the South African Rugby Union was so keen - desperate, even - to have the All Blacks tour that they offered the NZRFU neutral referees for the Tests. In an utterly mind-numbing decision, the NZRFU turned the offer down and it was, in the moment, that we knew that the All Backs were never going to win that series. Later, one of the Test referees, when questioned about his decisions on-field, laughed and said' "I have to live here". It is amazing how many teams, since neutral referees became law, now win Tests in South Africa.

@Rotowhaka

Ай бұрын

The All Blacks, lost that series, due to poor team selection and poor team management and coaching I.e having two full backs that were not up to international standard Having a wing with a serious knee injury Not having a front line goal kicker and having part time place kickers like Suoer Sid and B G Plus the forwards lacked a bit of size as compared to the Springboks and a good percentage of the non test matches. Of the forwards, Andy Leslie the captain should not have been in the test team, and Tane Norton was well past his use by date.

@MarsFKA

Ай бұрын

@@Rotowhaka All of that true - playing a first-five at fullback for the first Test was, to put it very mildly, unprecedented - but neutral referees would still have have made a big difference, especially in the last Test. Danie Craven publicly welcomed the selection of Batty, crook knee and all, because - paraphrasing, here - Batty was good for the game, but everyone who knew Craven also knew that he was really welcoming the selection of an unfit player. Kit Fawcett should never have been selected, and so on, etc... I suppose I'll get over it, one day...

Jpr deserved to win this game after the ashworth incident. ...

@michaelcarroll4330

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t know how you arrive at that conclusion ... this match took place before the Ashworth incident

Geoff Wheel rest his arm on Aidan’s shoulder and he flies out of the line out like he’s been pole axed, hilarious!😂😂

Scandalous by not one but TWO forwards! One with nobody near him. OK I'm Welsh but hate to see such open cheating. What does it teach grass roots players.

@Rotowhaka

5 ай бұрын

Look at the leg trip on Brian McKechnie after that chip and chase, very subtle between the legs, just enough to slow him up and give Clive Rees the advantage. Anyhow Wales had their opportunity to put that match away, against a weak and generally inexperienced all blacks team, but blew it big time, thus bad luck. And congratulations to this All Blacks team on doing the Grand Slam, especially at the time most kiwis were saying they would be lucky to win two of the test matches.

@user-eq9jv5uf7d

3 ай бұрын

Considering this was 46 years ago Im not sure grass roots players are learning much from it.

Wales could/should have beaten the All Blacks in 1972 aswell - the game finishing 19-16 to the All Blacks.

@brettwilkinson9529

3 жыл бұрын

Wales were never in it during 1972 encounter.

@michaelcarroll4330

3 жыл бұрын

You tend to have to score more points than the other lot to win, though

@JP1234815

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcarroll4330 And that's why I said should - not did!!

@wobblertv8083

Жыл бұрын

Ironically Keith Murdoch scored the try .Then was sent home after a altercation I think with some security guards .Stopped off in Australia on the way home ..Then disappeared into the outback .Think he died a couple of years ago .Very uncompromising prop .

@99waylon

9 ай бұрын

in the 1970s, Wales was no doubt the best side in the World. However, they played NZ 3 times and lost 3. I've included the 1974 Wales XV game, which was a full-strength Welsh side. They should have won the 1972 game with ease and man-for -man they were a lot better and playing at home. Yes, should have won in 1978 too, if it wasn't for a Welsh player using the shoulder of a NZ player to jump.

The greatest escape or con of all time

could have easly been 6 all Ireland lost 12 10 Wales lost Barbarians 18 15 and the worst All Black team to ever tour the UK

NZ lucky not have finished the first half with 12 men and 9 by the end. A full punch to the face to a guy layed out on the ground nowadays would be a straight red and 6 month ban. Kicking out at a guy going past you another red. As for the dive out of the line with no Welshman near him at the end was a classic but full credit for cheating a win there as there was no other way for NZ to win it.

@brettwilkinson9529

3 жыл бұрын

Fenwick broke Clive Currie's jaw. What about that. Bill Osborne knocked out cold . What about that . 2 sides to every story.

@howardpohatu3868

3 жыл бұрын

Losers again

@brettwilkinson9529

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Steve Fenwick breaking Clive Currie's jaw. Wales instigated the violence. New Zealand put them to sleep. That's how war is played out.

@martybourke2428

2 жыл бұрын

When fenwick high tackled and clive Currie's jaw was broken Wales had ample support but chose to kick the ball while inside all black 22. No confidence .game set match

@martybourke2428

4 ай бұрын

Wwoulda been embarrassing to lose against nine players

Wales had 75 percent of ball .. home ground.... 5 natìons champs.... big lead.... so should have won easily 😂

Took the Aussie cricket team , to bring karma to Mckechnie

@MarsFKA

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously? A bowler bowling an unplayable ball to McKechnie and you think that's *karma* ?

@lapalad

Жыл бұрын

@@MarsFKA Wasn't unplayable, he could have hit it for 4 : )

@MarsFKA

Жыл бұрын

@@lapalad A six was needed to tie the game.

@lapalad

Жыл бұрын

@@MarsFKA It was a joke, didn't you see the smile at the end?

Hmmmm!!! Whites only/Wit kant😂

@Rotowhaka

5 ай бұрын

Two Maori’s plus one NZ Samoan in the All Blacks Bill Bush, Bill Osborne and Bryan Williams

It was clearly a dive out of the line-out by the New Zealanders - they did the same in another game against Wales when the Welsh were winning. I wonder the announcers didn't catch it.