Waldgeist has threatened this sort of performance for a while now, he’s a top horse. The ground was definitely the deciding factor, but fair play to Enable & her connections, she’s a champion & a great racehorse. John Gosden must take a lot of credit for doing a wonderful job too, superb trainer.

This is what happens when you consistently take on the best of the best, in any conditions, no backing down or out. John Gosden walked the course today and knew they had their 'most potent weapon' (her turn of foot) swept from under them before the race. Did she still run? You're damn right she did. Enable doesn't back away. They didn't have to run in that ground but did, and still beat the rest of that monster field on pure heart alone. Any lesser horse than her would've dropped like a fly off that pace! She's an absolute legend. The Queen.

@petermasterson8276

4 жыл бұрын

She failed despite receiving weight from the winner.Horses don't make decisions,people do(backing out).

@mjj1701

4 жыл бұрын

@@petermasterson8276 oh go back to bed 🤧

@markperryman1797

4 жыл бұрын

@@mjj1701 He put his bed on Enable.....

@juniorfepuleai6171

4 жыл бұрын

All champions run on any surface. She just wasn’t good enough. She’s still a champ.

@rob9999i

4 жыл бұрын

@MaryJo have to say I'm not convinced about his turn of foot comment. I've been to most of Enables races in person and I'm a big fan, but mainly due to her high cruising speed and then willingness to forge clear. Wouldn't have said it's a turn of foot as such. Also shes won some big races on soft ground. Not sure whether it was the track, she did practically the very same race last year and did the very same thing. It is hard to get home at Longchamp and I'm not a big fan of the course. I'd say Battash did lose his turn of foot advantage on that ground, asked to quicken and finished last etc. Either way, very unsatisfactory day of results IMO

Wow well done matey great run congratulations

Wow! I didn't expect that, but that's horse racing. I still love Enable! ❤️

What a race!!!

I wish folks recall what Frankie had to say after 2018,that she was rapidly running out of gas and he had to keep her going. This time Charles got working on Waldgeist with a furlong to go and got the response which was honestly unexpected including myself . Never the less she did give her best.

Still can’t believe it!!!!! Enable could still easily go to the Breeders Cup Turf and win still.

@serua3285

4 жыл бұрын

There is no risk as she is a brood mare, whose progeny they are not selling.

@kepnjem

4 жыл бұрын

@TheFallsCapone Enable's grandsire is Galileo who is Frankel's sire. A foal by either of those would be too closely inbred. Sea the Stars? Maybe. Or perhaps they'll wait for Stradivarius to retire to stud and use him at some point. He's by Sea the Stars. That said, it would mean that that foal would be inbred to Sadlers Wells 3 times. It's not that simple.

@keenice5271

4 жыл бұрын

Jordan Rodriguez hahaha no

@csbcsb4458

4 жыл бұрын

@TheFallsCapone just keeps losing. Shit horse.

Enable had previously beaten Waldgeist three times. Today, it was the ground that did it, not a better horse. When I look back on his form and see that he had won the Critérium International in the bog, it makes sense. Let's not forget that Waldgeist did not manage to win one single race as a 3-year-old.

@topka14

4 жыл бұрын

I felt like Waldgeist could have been Closer in the King George

@corinthian123

4 жыл бұрын

Yes and once he found his stride, he was gone.

@noitmrj4502

4 жыл бұрын

Well prepared and well climbed Walgeist wins ;-)

@supersaiyanjin2199

4 жыл бұрын

Weather really did make a difference but credit to where credit is due as much as i love enable...waldgeist and connections made the most of the advantage

I'm a big replay fan win or lose but as you say sweet when your studying pays off and you have tipped it to others 👍

Love Waldgeist's low down racing style...a real dogged fighter, but full marks to the beautiful mare...A TRUE LEGEND.

Waldgeist ran in her garden at Longchamp. Last year he was unlucky but otherwise he's unbeaten at Longchamp. (Prix d'Harcourt was on heavy ground). And Fabre is a genius.

Credit to Andre Fabre, when asked on TV after Ascot run. When will we see Waldgeist run again, maybe the king George ? its unlikely Waldgeist be seen again in England. the focus is only on the Arc. Me and Dad took anti post 12/1 and thought that it was great value then seen it drift to 20/1 the day before urgh ending 16/1 before the start. Once Enable hit the front I thought ah well Enable will have it again then Waldgeist moves up a gear catches Enable and leaves her. WOW what a win but no taking away from the most loved horse Enable

Racing UK's Oli Bell to trainer Andre Fabre in a post-Arc interview: "At what point did you realize Waldgeist was gonna win the race"? Fabre's response to Oli Bell: "When he passed Enable."

I was at Longchamp today. The argument that the state of the track was the reason for Enable's loss doesn't hold water. (Excuse the purposeful pun.) Check out all the race times today and check the average time for these distances at this track. Nothing out of the ordinary for a slow track. (It certainly was not a heavy track.) 18 out of the last 46 Arc's have been won in slower time than today. So why did Enable lose to Waldgeist today? Frankie Dettori went too early. He should not have panIcked at the 450 metre mark. See 02:07 in the video. It was not his best ride to say the least. John Gosden's expression on the way back to the mounting yard as he was talking to FD was quizzical. P.S. I won on the race, as I backed Enable with Sottsass in a Couplé placé, so I am not talking through my hat.

@BalmainBucko

4 жыл бұрын

Waldgeist also enjoyed a lovely run..10 out of 10 for the ride..Enable ran up to her best, she wasn't good enough on the day she lost no fans.

@rob9999i

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Enable has also won on very soft ground before. I love Frankie but I think the pressure affected him today. Being on a 4/6 shot who races prominently and everyone thinks you should win will make you "play it safe." Enable has a high cruising speed and so he should have hung on longer IMO. Easier said than done when you have Sottsass and Japan snapping away, but he needed to be ballsy

@cmrcz7550

4 жыл бұрын

I actually think the move towards the rail was what killed her run. If she had been kept where she was..... Wow. We'd be witnessing history I'm sure

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

The first three all fell in a heap. The first three went too fast in that ground. I think Frankie was too close to the front three from the 1000 to the 500. If Enable had Japan's run or Waldgeists run I think she probably would have won. She'd worked too hard from the 1800 to the 500m point I reckon.

@cmrcz7550

4 жыл бұрын

@@elgransenor1472 yep. Looks like Magical was the OBrian sacrificial lamb

Followed Waldgeist for 3 years , backed him at 33-1 and 25 ante post , told everyone he would be in the first 3 , the ground did not beat enabled the best horse on the day did , won loads thank you Waldgeist , i followed soul power and silviano Conte over a cliff , My next one Earthlight , i saw him win a group 1 in France and put my conkers on at 5-2 last time , won easily , can he beat pinatubo , we will see. Back last years king george winner , he will do the double , fill your boots up get your xmas money . good luck

@slaneysider106

4 жыл бұрын

Backed Earthlight also, it depends on what Godolphin says if the two of them meet , you couldn’t be up to their shenanigans, a very hard one to call .

Fair play to Waldgeist, an absolute top notch performer, game as a pebble, he deserved this one. And of course he was born and bred in England.

@noitmrj4502

4 жыл бұрын

& trained in France, ridden by our best jockey :D Waldgeist would never have beaten Enable without André Fabre & Pierre Charkes Boudot

@cmrcz7550

4 жыл бұрын

German bred. He's out of a German breeding program, based near Munich

When she comes back next year they need to run her. Don't wrap her in cotton wool. Put her in all the big races. The winning streak is broken, don't have to worry if she loses one or two. She was at her best at 3 when she ran seven times from April to October. Interestingly that's the same period as Waldgeist this year. She loves racing, let her do it more often. The Arc needs to be her 6th race of the year.

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

trent redding Mate, the best horses in Europe are never going to run in Australia. Your races are meaningless to us. It's second tier racing in international terms. The only horses who will go out there are the ones who can't win a big race here. You really do think your races are more important than they actually are. Even this year with Winx not there OBrien only sent a horse who had run a few group one placings. Enable races against the 2nd 3rd 4th best horses in the world. Are you suggesting she should go out to Australia to run against the 20th and 30th best horses? To take on the likes of Avilius or Black Heart Bart?

All this Nonsense about the soft ground. It was the same for everyone. Waldegist was said not to like soft ground on numerous occasions by Andre Fabre, after the King George and Prince of Wales Stakes. The Best Horse won on the day Period. These Horses are not Machines. The Hype Merchants went overboard conveniently forgetting that Sea of Class was an unlucky Loser last year.

@harleyskidmore7282

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah he probs only said that to make sure no one backed it.

@RichyC_

4 жыл бұрын

Waldgeist loves that ground and he found better ground down the middle than enable did on the rail. She ran out of steam in the last 50m because of racing too close to the pace and the ground having too much give. The race played out in the winners favour, doesn’t make the winner a better horse and it doesn’t make Enable overhyped.

@alester5167

4 жыл бұрын

yes i know by sea the stars son .. sea of class is a great horse

Everyone seems to forget that Enable had a tough time health wise not long before the race and that John Gosden was not sure if she was 100% . He said as much before the race. So she did brilliantly. And winning the Breeders Cup says all that needs to be said.

I love Enable She is my favourite horse. Even if she loses,she finishes 2nd

@uhegbu

4 жыл бұрын

First defeat since the early days before becoming a superstar.

great race by winner and runner up, good to see Frankie took care of Enable when she was passed

Does anybody know what enable traded on betfair in running

@vivirespana2331

4 жыл бұрын

1.67

@vivirespana2331

4 жыл бұрын

@arsenal0782 I see. Well I only checked in the morning and it was 1.67

@davemainzan2088

4 жыл бұрын

@@vivirespana2331 in-running means during the race, when Enable hit the front in the final two furlongs

@davemainzan2088

4 жыл бұрын

@@vivirespana2331 a furlong is about 200 metres

@vivirespana2331

4 жыл бұрын

@@davemainzan2088 I didn't know that. But I knew 1 furlong is about 200 metres

Maybe Frankie should have held on to her for another half a furlong???

I've been waiting to back waldgeist since royal ascot when he was beaten 1 and 3/4 lengths by enable and well clear of the rest. Anyone want my free tips I'm pretty good at finding winners had a 50/1 today UP THE STRAIGHT at lingfield . Ended up 33/1 sp. I thought I had put £5 ew on but it took £5 win instead anyway won by 8L . Favourite 1/4 🤗🥂🏇💷

@leom5095

4 жыл бұрын

Think Enable wins the Arc this year if she gets there?

I said it would be very difficult for her winning a 3 arc because of many reasons but she did well time she retired did I wanted her to win absolutely Frankie is my hero

Did anyone else notice she got very warm down at the start? sweating neck, between the hindlegs , never saw her do that before and it's always a major negative in my book

@RichyC_

4 жыл бұрын

WESSERPARAQUAT Same, thought she wasn’t like herself before the race. In the end I don’t think it made much of a difference

@WESSERPARAQUAT

4 жыл бұрын

@@RichyC_ Great mare, i'd keep her in training as a 6yo, check out my link on that other frog race, fucking robbed of half my winnings! i'm guessing a bigwig had a MASSIVE bet on the "beaten" fav....."oh don't be worry we'll make it a dead-heat"! fixing crooked bastards haha

It's not ground. Waldgeist was a different horse today and improved 10pounds since ascot. Even when he finished third at ascot, jockey was happy and gave him pat down the neck at the finish line. They knew he could improve

@RichyC_

4 жыл бұрын

Whatsupboyz the ground was worse there than it was at ascot and the race unfolded perfectly for waldgeist, he’s been a great horse all year

Waldgeist is a very slow horse, even here Japan went past him easily in the straight, but his dour galloping won the day as Enable had chased behind a suicidal pace set by 2 G1 horses who practically stopped to a walk in the straight, that was how ridiculous the pace was. Waldgeist was in the right place at the right time and im sure he will make a good National Hunt sire.

@tommyplou1298

4 жыл бұрын

Slow horse....lol

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with your analysis of the pace, perhaps not your assessment of the quality of the winner.

Waldgeist jockey outsmarted Frankie and knew how ride on heavy ground

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

Randy Greaves That pretty much sums it up.

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

Black M3 I have no idea why you directed me to that video?

@leom5095

4 жыл бұрын

Think Enable wins the Arc this year if she gets there?

Espetacular...

Its weird as to why frankie just let enable run on the king george but took control all of a sudden in this race...

Initially thought Frankie went too early but he didn’t move until the 400m, just ran out of gas due to a combo of ground and pace. You can’t really condition a horse for those circumstances without compromising a turn of foot. In hindsight you would hold her together until the 300m. The winner is very exposed so I think Enable goes down as a champion but not quite an all time great.

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

Kincsem Frankie did go too early. His mistake was about 1600-1800 from home. He spent too much petrol trying to stay in touch with Magical. That was her undoing.

Waldgeist should have won the Prix du Jockey club in 2017 but for not finding a clear passage that day Brametot was beaten. Too good today electric kick from Waldgeist just like the King George where on both occasions it gave Enable 3Ibs in weight difference. If Waldgeist had not come wide would have been 4lengths easy. Enable is an all time legend despite losing today. That's racing ? l

Awesome performance by Waldgeist. Interesting to see who can stop Tiger Roll winning three Grand Nationals.

@andrewrose4643

4 жыл бұрын

No one already big money aside for double tiger roll Cheltenham and the national again

@markperryman1797

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewrose4643 Nothing is a cert when you're dealing with horses 🏇 or Dog's 🐕, even Usain Bolt got beat....

@moosiethestaggie5100

4 жыл бұрын

The handicapper

@drombohowes830

4 жыл бұрын

@@moosiethestaggie5100 yep agreed and age

@uhegbu

4 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, the 2020 Grand National. It is a very difficult achievement to win three in any race, let alone a Group 1.

Sea Of Class nearly did that last year. Racing is a lot about LUCK.

@masalbugdov8123

4 жыл бұрын

Unless they're called Frankel or Sea the stars or winx or Black Caviar et al. Then you make your own luck

@badbadnotgoodgoodgodnotbad2930

4 жыл бұрын

It would've won this year, rip

@burningsagemanmusic7491

4 жыл бұрын

You are exactly right, if Sea of Class got out earlier last year she would have won quite easily. Last around the bend and ended up finishing second.

@MrSmid888

4 жыл бұрын

Badbadnotgood Goodgodnotbad Crystal Ocean would of gone well also ,she hasn’t really beat much class today

@kepnjem

4 жыл бұрын

@@masalbugdov8123 Frankel wouldn't get the trip. If Winx and Black Caviar were good enough, why weren't they entered for an Arc?

I had £25 EW AT 20/1 3 places and £25 ew at 10/1 4 places I picked waldgeist after his fine run at royal ascot and told my colleagues at work to lump on 🥂🏇👍

@slaneysider106

4 жыл бұрын

Well Done makes it all the sweeter watching the replay

@extremepoker75

3 жыл бұрын

Well do e aftertimer

Underfoot conditions are most essential to suit. Ground went against enable.

i backed billesden brook ew at 16/1in the sun chariot at newmarket the day before & waldgeist ew, also 16/1, in the arc; unfortunately, i didn't do the double. billesden brook beat laurens in the 1000 guineas last year at newmarket, while waldgeist was closing in on enable & crystal ocean at the end of the king george & had been a close 4th in the arc last year. it begs the question, why were the 2 form horses such ridiculous odds? ps, i didn't expect either to win but i thought they were both nailed on to be placed. moral of the story, don't be swayed by the odds.

The latest penetrometer reading is 5.12. That will drop to under 5.0 with the fine weather, depending upon watering strategy. They have some great managers looking after Royal Randwick these days, so it will be in terrific order. I agree that the race record is within reach: 1m 8.36s, Redzel. Not sure about Santa Ana Lane's 1m 7.45 (29 September 2018) track record, when the morning penetrometer was 5.06 and the track a Good 3. It's possible.

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

SvendBosanvovski Is this comment on the wrong video???

@svendbosanvovski4241

4 жыл бұрын

@@elgransenor1472 Good point, Big Man.

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

SvendBosanvovski I think it translates as Great Man. LOL.

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

SvendBosanvovski Yesterday was the best Everest of the three so far. Still hasn't quite captured my imagination yet.

@svendbosanvovski4241

4 жыл бұрын

@@elgransenor1472 Agreed. It has captured the imagination here. Compare it with your Championship sprint run yesterday. Did that capture your imagination? Your two best sprinters stayed away.

All at work, but Enable, she bottomed out on that ground, but if they meet again on better ground Enable will come out on top.

Quite a race

She ran well, it looked like the winner found better ground

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Bradley Agreed.

@burningsagemanmusic7491

4 жыл бұрын

@BigjockGnu I do suspect that actually did happened normally I would say bs but not this time

Terribly disappointing for the British racing public, particularly when the horse that denied her this historic treble had been beaten by her three times in the past. You can hear that in the caller's voice. It was still a great and brave run.

@svendbosanvovski4241

4 жыл бұрын

@keith gould Agreed, Keith. I remember how deflated I felt when Octagonal and Lonhro were beaten at their last appearances. I still have the Big O poster on my wall that was part of the entry price. Walgeist got within 2 lens of the great mare in three of the times they met previously, and appears to have gained in strength. There are some pretty handy middle distance horses in the beaten brigade, so its conceivable that he will be elevated to the number one ranking by the IFHR, or at least equal to Enable. This is the current , with Benbatl likely to get 126: 1 128 Enable (GB) 3 126 Ghaiyyath (IRE) 8 124 Waldgeist (GB) 13 122 Japan (GB) 13 122 Magical (IRE)

@svendbosanvovski4241

4 жыл бұрын

@keith gould You may be right. Its a good observation, but each campaign might depend upon how hard he had to work in the earlier races. There hasn't been too many better trainers than John Hawkes and who better to assess the horse's fitness to continue campaigning?

@svendbosanvovski4241

4 жыл бұрын

@keith gould Let face it, on Tulloch, Tommy Smith treated his horses as cattle and raced them very hard, over testing distances. Can you imagine the record Kingston Town would have accumulated if Chris Waller trained him as he did Winx. The King ran in sprints to two milers at three, 15 starts, 9 G1s (6 wins). Apparently Tommy used a high grain diet that made horses leaner, but created ulcerations. The King eventually broke down. I bet if Chris had him, the horse, being a gelding would have raced a few extra seasons.

@svendbosanvovski4241

4 жыл бұрын

@keith gould To be honest, Keith, I'm not miffed with what Brits think about our great horses. I have been a student of our racing since 1960, when the old man took me to see the likes of Todman, Tulloch and Wenona Girl. A pretty good start! When you follow the races for that long, week in and week out, you internalise the benchmarks and appreciate greatness when it comes along. I am sure that Winx would have beaten anything in the World up to 10f. Sure, times can be deceptive. Look at Novellist's astonishing King George win, for example. But Highland Chieftain, Vadamos and now Benbatl, who were dominated by her, provide a direct measure against the elite in the UK. As for BC, horses like Ortensia and Buffering won international G1s, and BC destroyed them. Have another look at her Newmarket Hcp win. She was like another species as she tore away from that field. Only Vain ever dominated a G1 sprint field like that, and she was top weight!

@svendbosanvovski4241

4 жыл бұрын

@keith gould Vain's win in the Craven Stakes remains the most astonishing win I have ever seen. 12 lens in a canter, 1m 9.8 on a slow track. And of course he won what are now 3 G1s in 8 days. They run quicker times today for a number of reason - cambered tracks and advanced soil science, jockeys ride with shorter stirrups and reduce the effect of drag and the horse equipment is lighter. The greatest for me: Tulloch, Kingston Town, Winx. Sprinters - Black Caviar and Vain; milers- Lonhro, Winx; middle distance to two miles, Galilee, Might and Power, Makybe Diva. Jumper - Crisp. In their day, they would have beaten anything in the world on turf.

I don't agree that Enable was burnt out because of staying up with the pace, the front 3 stretched and Dettori was happy to sit back a few lengths in 4th before making his move. I'm afraid they were just beaten by a better horsee on the day. It doesn't make Enable any less of a brilliant horse. The tactics for the 2020 Arc could be very different as Ghaiyaath likes to make it from the front and is a miles better horse this year. Love shouldn't be forgotten either, it should be a cracking Arc this year.

Gave you all starcatcher 9/4

Who else knew enable wasn’t going to win?(obviously)

@kelletman

4 жыл бұрын

The ground beat her, just how many time's Waldgeist came up second best against Enable ? One swallow does not a summer make.

Well done Waldgeist, gutted for Enable but what a run

Biggest upset ever... 🤔 Nah, happens all the time. That's racing.

@nightowl7459

4 жыл бұрын

You are correct Dave, a bit of a upset, but hardly the biggest upset ever.

@mrgoodbytes4709

4 жыл бұрын

upset yes, biggest upset ever no, biggest upset since the 1993 breeders cup classic maybe.

@davemainzan2088

4 жыл бұрын

If we're talking big race entries on the flat, maybe, but I wasn't following racing in 1993,and I've seen multiple 1/5 and shorter get stuffed; and at Cheltenham you see more than a handful of good things get turned over every year. I really don't think you need to go that far back.

@nedpoines8104

4 жыл бұрын

Australian champion, Ajax, was beaten in a four horse race at 40/1on in the 1940s. This fact always comes up when punters talk about a certainty that lost a race.

@sportingvideos2012

4 жыл бұрын

@@davemainzan2088 winx wouldn't of lost

Enable is going around again next weekend. No Waldgeist this time.

@andrewbell7579

4 жыл бұрын

No she’s not.

@svendbosanvovski4241

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewbell7579 Correct, she was officially withdrawn yesterday (Mon, 14 October).

Waldgeist could have won by more if he wasn't switched left, right and left before coming through.

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

Arthur Tee He also had a very soft easy run up to that point, hadn't spent a penny.

@arthurtee8113

4 жыл бұрын

@Stephen Bidgood Ok

@williamwharton9562

4 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I thought . And at the time i thought it was a ground losing manoeuvre but luckily for me it wasn't. Great credit goes to the jockey for winning me a grand .

What a race ! A new champion is born...

@gregb4676

4 жыл бұрын

Some champion.

The ground was the key factor . Waldgeist , who finished behind Enable in all their previous meetings , loves soft ground and is a Longchamp specialist . Enable lost nothing in defeat . I hope they retire her now ; she has nothing more to prove .

@cmrcz7550

4 жыл бұрын

I actually believe the move to the rail was

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with CM. Five or six horses off the fence looked like better ground all day. Keep a true line from the false rail and I reckon the finish would have been closer. He might still have won but it would have been closer.

@cmrcz7550

4 жыл бұрын

@@elgransenor1472 a little interesting stat : Enable recorded the top speed of the race, 64.8 km/h On that going, on the track that is Longchamp.... Wow.

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

C MM Aust That is prett amazing. The overall time was pretty fast for that ground. Only the 1400 and 1000m races were run in comparatively decent overall times.

@cmrcz7550

4 жыл бұрын

@@elgransenor1472 a very fast pace. Did you watch Gosdens interview?

Enable not in same league as Frankel

@GyariSan1

4 жыл бұрын

Lol give me a break. Frankel never travelled. Enable went around and took on the best of the best, besides the freak Winx

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

spleeeen4it Who's saying that she is?

No one see that coming.

in a strange way, i'm glad Enable (slow donkey) was bet hehe because there was too much talk before the race about both the horse and dettori who rode the wrong race this time, kicking too soon if he held on to her until just inside the last 200m she might still have won.....so thrilled, obviously delighted, we'll now see what the geriatric (new word! waw!) says, i.e prince khalid, but sure still thrilled, delighted, obviously, happy, come forward since last run, happy to finish second, ran a great race, amazing really.....excuse me while i' pick next years strawberries i'm a real genius hehe

Get on Bristol di Mia on 23 rd November haydock

You the world did not see that coming,.Allez la France

Enable 💔💋

Trainer knew that on heavy ground, he would go close as it had rained a lot on Saturday morning. She was not the best on the day especially on very demanding surface. Can't win em all at group 1 level. Treve didn't do it either but no disgrace.Horse was close at Ascot so luck in running was a factor.

@keenice5271

4 жыл бұрын

Tom OConnor hahaha mo excuse

If ZARKAVA had stayed in training she probably would have won 3 Arcs. She was a phenomenal filly.

@somersetfan1

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, Sea The Stars was the year after her. She should have been kept in training

Dios dijo del caballo "Te he enviado a la tierra para &ue vueles sin alas y triunfes sin espada" (leyenda universal)

Waldgeist won fair and square. Would have been an unlucky loser as he had to jink out wide to get a run. Outstayed enable this time. Enable has had plenty of racing and time to have a happy reitirement.

Get on starcatcher at ascot 19 th

Cant win them all, great horse Enable

@midlandsballistics6345

4 жыл бұрын

Frankel would of destroyed enable

@lucybeswick7219

3 жыл бұрын

RnD He was a colt. Just because frankel was amazing shouldn’t take away how fantastic enable is

Waldgeist is the same age as Enable at 5, so it will be interesting to see what he does next. Enable is a great champion, she just was not quite good enough on the day.....whatever the reason 🏇

GUTTED....wish I was a remainer , I could refuse to accept the result and demand the race be rerun until Enable wins !

@kepnjem

4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't have put it better! Well said. 😂

@suemaher5282

4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant Robert best comment on here. Made me laugh.

@davemainzan2088

4 жыл бұрын

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Wow, what an unsatisfactory result. If one of the younger horses like Sottsass or Japan had won it wouldn't have been so bad. But Waldgeist has already been thrashed 4 times in a row by Enable so it just goes down as a stinker. IMO the pressure was too much in the end, Frankie committed early to beat off Magical, Sottsass and Japan but heading to the rail in bottomless ground was always risky. Waldgeist picked up the pieces. Bitterly disappointing for racing fans

@SumoCumLoudly

4 жыл бұрын

spot on, pressure got to frankie, if he had been patient like at ascot he would have won easily

@kepnjem

4 жыл бұрын

It was the ground. At the end of the day, horses are made of flesh and blood. Good days and bad days just like us.

@xWayne1991x

4 жыл бұрын

The pressue got to Frankie, please, nothing to do with pressure. Frankie gave her the ride he always gives her. Enable is always ridden prominently and sometimes even makes the running. He got collared late on by a very good horse in Waldgeist who has a near perfect record at the track and who relishes soft ground, waldgeist was only beat 2 lengths by enable last year when not getting the greatest of runs through. Can you imagine if he decided , hold on a minute im gonna hold this horse up out the back and ride my luck for a change instead of getting her into a good position in which she always wins from, the uproar from people would have been monumental.

@BalmainBucko

4 жыл бұрын

It makes you realise ratings and who should win are not the true measurement of greatness..you need to repeat your greatness year in and year out by winning the big ones, she almost did it..although unlike a few powder puff high rating champs of the past who stayed in their backyard this mare had the guts to travel and hang around..she lost no admires.

@rob9999i

4 жыл бұрын

@@xWayne1991x 2 points. Firstly I'm not saying she should have been held up (that would make no sense at all) but she should have been held onto. She was travelling well 2f out on dreadful ground and if he'd held on longer then the burst would have been decisive. Same thing happened last year, went too early and was very lucky to win in the end. And secondly it's all about the pressure. If Frankie was riding a 20/1 there is no pressure, you ride exactly how you want and no-one will say anything. If you're on a 4/6 shot going for history you have to ride a safe race, in this case, sitting handy and kicking early. If you cast your mind back to Frankels last race, the stakes were similar, on terrible ground and after a slow start yet he sat still and held his nerve until 1f out so the move was decisive . If he's had been mowing away 2f out he'd have got beat that day too

No one see that the son of galileo is coming, the commentor talk too much,.

Pukka had£10 e/w £212 back

The best horse always wins the Arc.

Those commentators did not see that coming. Well done France

Still a great mare, but the finishing effort just was not there this time , and wilderbeast must be ok! trained by a real snake lol the little frog , he was keeping abit back alright for the Arc, Congratulations to Mr Fabre regardless 8th Arc , on a sounder surface Enable is truly unbeatable , fucking rain ....damn, Dancing Brave's Arc remains the benchmark from living memory

Enable - fresh as paint twitter.com/FiverForty

Bring her back as a 6 year old to win a 3rd Arc on decent ground

No more french bets for me after that, that was no dead heat.....their taking the piss out of the punters calling that a dead heat, took them 25 mins to declare the result! 25 mins! what was going on behind the scenes

@ThePyThola

4 жыл бұрын

WESSERPARAQUAT there wasn’t a dead heat in this race?

@WESSERPARAQUAT

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePyThola it was officially declared a dead-heat! un-fucking-believable after 25 mins! i'm guessing there were some frantic phone calls to give the fav a share , the inside horse, mine..Lootah has CLEARLY won a half-head the slow-mo cam is right on the line, dead-heat? it wasn't even that close SHAME on the fixing crooked corrupt french

To leave too confident in a race is to leave beaten! Thank PC Boudot &A Fabre to give the victory back to French training & jockey AWSOME :-)

That mare doesn't owe anyone anything! I think she ought to be retired from racing now and allowed to be a mum. 😊. Long live Enable!

@awuma

4 жыл бұрын

I think racing would get a boost with Enable racing some more. It's too bad that Winx never travelled outside Australia. A Winx-Enable matchup would have been something to see!

@GBeret83

4 жыл бұрын

@cookupastorm, Frankly, she hasn't owed anyone anything for a long time now! In her 3YO season alone she garnered wins in the Cheshire Oaks, Investec Oaks, Irish Oaks, King George, Yorkshire Oaks and in the Arc. Call me cynical, but I've followed the sport long enough to know most trainers and owners, I would actually guess 8 or 9 out of 10, would've looked at that as a career in one season and sent her right off to broodmare without even remotely considering a second full season on the racetrack, much less a third, and now she's even into her fourth. Anything Gosden and Prince Khalid get out of this mare now is pure window dressing. The way she ran through major G1 races as a 3YO reminded a bit of Sea The Stars in 2009, and they didn't hesitate a second to send him off to a glorious stud career the minute he crossed the finish line at Longchamp as the 09' Arc winner.

@lucybeswick7219

3 жыл бұрын

GBeret83 Yea, I am also surprised she is on her fourth season. They really want a 3rd arc win but this year she hasn’t been her normal fitness, so I honestly think it’s stupid!

Enable what a battler, gave it all every time. At least we get some conclusion on winx vs enable debate

@mjj1701

4 жыл бұрын

What conclusion is that? 😂

@cmrcz7550

4 жыл бұрын

@@mjj1701 the conclusion is the Enable has raced in the world's finest race three times, for two wins and a second.

@mjj1701

4 жыл бұрын

@@cmrcz7550 exactly. imagine using enable's arc record to big up winx, what on earth does she have to do with it? no form lines on show at all.

@cmrcz7550

4 жыл бұрын

@@mjj1701 desperation from the clueless.

@rob9999i

4 жыл бұрын

@Masal you do realise when people big up Winx Win record that she actually lost 5 times in her first season? Hardly the stuff of all time greats. Add in the huge doubts on the quality of Australian middle distance form and we've learnt nothing.

Pmsl , every one thinking enable could not be beat, it’s a horse not a machine, waldergeist was always going to have her day. Short prices get beat daily , and there is no way enable will win the arc on Sunday, its heavy , more so than last year and she is another year older. Japan/sottass for me

@myfrobert

3 жыл бұрын

It should be "have his day", since Waldgeist is a stallion instead of a mare.

Waldgeist has run with Enable in races to almost be a stablemate. I had Waldgeist $5 WP pa $78.50, Enable to win in a contest, Magical 2nd or 3rd, too many with Japan & Sottsass in Quinella didn’t pay $21 pd $7.80 🤷🏽‍♂️ fun tho & eye 👁 Fabre / Boudot top Tnr / Jky by far at course @ racingtv.com/racecourses/longchamp 12 mths

Sad to see Enable lose. The way he wins reminds me of Montjeu passed El Condor Pasa n Solemnia passed Orfevre. I guess French-based horses always hav a home-field advantage. Dunno if Waldgeist would be another one hit wonder or he could carry this to his next runs.

@myfrobert

3 жыл бұрын

If my memory is correct, Waldgeist was retired to stud very soon after winning this Arc.

'notha €1Mill Euros 2nd-place fer K. Abdullah!

Jesus Moore gave Japan a shocking ride should not be allowed to ride again for o Brien

The Horse is Doping ???

Intelligently, the winner did not offer Enable a fight: stayed way out of sight.

@nedpoines8104

4 жыл бұрын

The French jockey was smarter than Dettori.

@supersaiyanjin2199

4 жыл бұрын

Jockey made an outstanding decision of going wide when traffic was in front of him before 2f

So it wasn't to be, the final chapter, as they so called. Galileo has sired a second Arc winner, three years after Found. Waidgest denies Enable as Golden Horn did to Treve in 2015.

good try ghaiyath, maybe as next time.

@benblake267

4 жыл бұрын

Got hammered by Waldgeist last time they ran at longchamp, couldn't work out why it was that short of price but there we go

@mrgoodbytes4709

4 жыл бұрын

@keith gould the conditions might not have been in his corner and also the last race he had was 1 1/2 mile then one month later arc also 1 1/2 mile so it might have been too much today

Enable how u tried frankie be proud she was doing her best. The godolphin horse acted like a pacemaker what we're they thinking in that ground. We all know the best horse came second.

I am NOT sure this So zBrillisntly ""noble " Lady realuzes her. loss UNLESS in that clever knowing head SHE did understand where the finish line wasv. I so hope she did not .For me & ptobably many others she IS still the Coquering. Queen ....a-jh

So much hype about Enable. What has she ever beaten? Waldgeist was an unbelievable price. He was always going to run a big race

@markperryman1797

4 жыл бұрын

@tehanomander You do get some idiots on KZread....

@markperryman1797

4 жыл бұрын

Crystal Ocean, Rhododendron, Irish champion stakes winner Magical, won 2 Arcs, Waldgeist.....etc

@fredjackson9231

4 жыл бұрын

I was on at 16/1

@markperryman1797

4 жыл бұрын

@@trevorwills9248 nothing to do with the stall number, she was beat on the day, she's already stuffed Waldgeist couple of times....

@aftabrashid4388

4 жыл бұрын

To any horse racing lover it's obvious the ground suited waldgiest better than enable Also travelling to France away from home ground You got to be proud of enable she fought hard.

The comments 😭 She got beat fair and square It’s racing champions get beat get over it , fuck me

looks like the bookies won 😘 😁😁

Doesn't lessen Enable's reputation one bit. She's run everywhere, including the BC in the states - which many are afraid to do, including Frankel, and taken on all comers all over the globe. I have more respect for a horse that loses a race or two because it's travelled all over, than an undefeated horse that stays at home, afraid to ruin an undefeated record. ALL HAIL ENABLE.

Unable ! Can't last forever. That's life.

She's no Winx

@estenski

4 жыл бұрын

Enable wins group ones in Ireland, England, France and USA. Winx wouldn't of run a place in an Arc, far too hard for her. The Arc is very different than going around week after week against the same bunch of tired easy beats that Winx did.

@tarikalibasic4176

4 жыл бұрын

@@estenski I tend to disagree especially with the turn of foot winx possesses. Just have a look at sectionals and who is the faster horse. Yes, Enable has won the better and harder races but winx winning 28 in a row or whatever it was surely tells you the longevity of a horse and how good the horse is albeit the lesser opposition

@auroboros

4 жыл бұрын

@@estenski Look at Winx' George Ryder 2017 performance. Think of what she would have done on European turfs.

@elgransenor1472

4 жыл бұрын

Tarik Alibasic Winx never had to run against more than one half decent horse in any of her races. She never had to contend with five other very good horses in a race. Enable was beaten fair and square here but she virtually ran three races. First she took the field up to the front three and beat off genuine chances in Magical and the Godolphin horse, then she beat off the challenge of the two three year olds and then she had to try and win the third race against the late closer out wide and she couldn't manage that. Winx was never under pressure like that from multiple quality opponents in one single race. Bowman could screw up and she'd still win because most of the time the whole field was rubbish or she really only had to focus on beating a single opponent who was anywhere close to halfway decent.

@tommyplou1298

4 жыл бұрын

Winx did well and she's a great one but to be honest the Arc and the King George are in a different league. About the sectionals , it does not mean so much for me

Fucking read this in the paper and thought i did a forecast but I fucked up the name and picked william bruicks horse not waldegiest as I'd planned to fucks sake -_-

Melt

New it wud go close today was all over the back of enablevin king George I’m buzzing

Frankie at fault....Went far too early on Enable...

@rob9999i

4 жыл бұрын

@BigjockGnu Yeah true, but it wasn't good to firm and he knew that very well. Why commit 2 furlongs out on bottomless ground when you nearly got pipped doing the same thing last year

Magical sacrificed by Coolmore for Japan. Shows how obsessed they are by the 3yo colts.