Seeing the Kickr Bike, I have a reaction similar to Simon's on the Zwiftcast - "Damn that's expensive. I hate how expensive that is, mostly because I kind of really want one and I have a terrible suspicion that I'm going to end up buying one some day."

Expecting update videos by the morning...no pressure at all.

My kicker bike is being delivered in two weeks, nice videos, very straight forward set up. Thanks.

Nice of them to include reflectors with the pedals so people can see you riding 😂

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

They'd be some 10c/unit set from somewhere. Custom pedals, or removing the reflectors would cost more... and people are already salty on the price. Just wait until people find out this doesn't ship with a cassette!... oh... wait.... nevermind. ;)

@CarlForde

4 жыл бұрын

@Concrete Head and a water bottle ;-)

New subscriber 👍🏼 Had my doubt about hometrainers until I saw your review of the Tacx Vortex and I decided to buy it. Great job

Stay in bed with a newly replaced hip and wait for the next part. My next indoor trainer for sure. Thank you for the good reviews.

Nice part 1 review, I like the format.

My cc is already starting to get nervous... LOL Thanks Shane. Look forward to hearing about it more

Great part 1 review - thanks Shane!

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Remember to press that subscribe button to support this channel and be across any new videos published.

Man that is an impressive bit of kit..... I'm Zwift Racing today on my steel bike with 6 speed down-tube shifters. Oh well, gives me an excuse when I get dropped. Great vid Shane

Thanks Shane, thi was really helpful as I am currently reboxing the Kickr bike ready to ship back to the states. Grazie mille!

Thanks for the video, even my cat watched all the way through, he should be able to build it for me when mine arrives! 🙈😼

Looks almost perfect. Maybe next generation Kickr Bike have a wireless gears like Sram style.

Ultimate teaser ;-)

loving it! i have no problem expressing my jealousy at the moment. Love my kickr, however im eager to watch parts 2-4 or 5 in the Llama Kickr bike series. Although I'm confident that this will be a item listed on my wish list to Santa..or my birthday ha ha

That's a big box! Looks v cool

@glennmarshall8146

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like you are about to unpack a 80cm flatscreen TV

Be sure to treat all of the metal hardware with some anti-corrosion spray to prevent the sweat from corroding it. =)

Thanks for the video, was seeing if could fit it in the back of a Seat Leon, seems you can. Ride hard Lama!!!

So awesome!!!!

Hopefully Wahoo will release TT "shifters" for the KICKR Bike. Once they do, I think simplest way to switch between road and TT positions will be to mount the TT "shifters" to a separate bar/stem (and "steer tube") and then just swap the entire bar/stem/steerer/shifter assembly - one for road and one for TT. All you would need to do it disconnect cables, loosen the front clamp, swap assemblies, tighten clamp, then reconnect cables. Same idea with the saddle, particularly if you ride a different road and TT saddle. Put each saddle on its own seatpost, and then swap the entire assembly.

Hi Shane, been enjoying your informative and teaching videos as I am a newbie. I very much like the bike and want to get into indoor training but, I am 5ft 2in with a short reach ( and find the Atom difficult to reach/find a comfortable riding position). Can you include some information on your “fit” video for us female and a shortie. Thank you

this is much more useful than updates on that daft zwift game.

Please do the reach/ stack range in an upcoming video. I haven’t seen it anywhere. It looks like the bars might not go low enough to put some aerobar pads on. It’s really cool but I already see a reason to wait, what if zwift actually does make steering a thing? It looks like steering could be built into the kickr bike.

How wide are the bars? The seatpost looks round? One of the things I like about non round seatposts is that on my travel bike it's easy to set up each time as I only have to set it for length. With this having the potential to be used by more than one person in the household i think it's almost a shame the post is round, as it will mean that it take a bit longer to make sure the saddle is straight too. Although, I used to have two mount for my original wattbike, so your suggestion of being about to use two seatposts on 2 different saddles is great idea

Ahhhhh yes!!!

Love the look of that wide base. Even a pro track cyclist might straggle to make that wobble in anger!

@glennoc8585

4 жыл бұрын

So many trainer are lacking in footprint l.

@chilrad

4 жыл бұрын

@@glennoc8585 I think a lot of manufacturers assume that we all want to save space. They're wrong, it's the one thing we're willing to sacrifice ANY amount of space for!

When you do the sizing video can you do seat height, stack, and reach range measurements? I can’t find them anywhere and being tall I’d like to know before I order one. Thanks!

8:00 If the Fuoripista is the Crazy Horse then this is surely the Rocking Horse or... *drumroll*... the Wahoo Rockr. I'll get my coat... ;-)

Instructions: "This will require two people" Shane: "Nah"

@refthimos

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, two people. Shane to assemble solo, the other person to film the assembly.

I would definitely keep those pedals!

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

..... to throw at magpies!

Would you change the current Set up to train with Tacx Neo or Kirck and bike to smart bike? Looks interesting.

First 🔥

Wow 🇮🇩😁👍

I can't wait for you to drop part 2 on this smart bike. What about the other new kid on the block, Tacx smart bike, when will we see you review that beauty?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Soon... It hasn’t landed in Australia yet.

Righto. I'm on board. Anyone know if one of the Packers needs a Kidney? Heard the Australian prices are a little inflated and sits around the $5.5k AUD.

Looked a bit wobbly at the handlebars with Cam’s ride

👍👍

Great review Shane Have you access to the Elite Suito as yet

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

I have. Ball is with Elite at this point in time.

Waiting for v3 that will have side tilt for out of saddle sprinting.

Just submitted online personal loan application to get this and was declined..☹️☹️ (something about Centrelink not being a genuine employer)

Nice video Shane! Can you tell me if is this a final product or wahoo will upgrade the hardware, things like that ugly cables, the location of that little visor etc... I'm tempting to buy one but it's seems they have already finished! Regards from Portugal 🇵🇹

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Production. The cables are hanging out as there's no easy way to allow the adjustment if they're internal. I'm sure there's going to be some neat hacks coming up to hide them away. I've already started looking at what I can do with them :)

What kind of Mats do you have under the wahoo mat? Want something to protect my wood floors

Hello, it's been a few years since this presentation I have a Whaoo the same and I don't know if there will be any internal maintenance disassembly of the plastic casings if there is a strap inside if there is a part to be tightened etc. I would like to know if you are going to make a video of it since It's been a few years of use thanks

I'm so looking forward to the next video's. Always expected myself to buy the Tackx bike untill Wahoo showed up with this beauty. I hope it is as good as my Kickr. No, I hope it is even better… As a ride leader for 3R I'm curious on how easy/uneasy it is to put a keyboard or laptop near the handlebars as I need to do a lot of typing while riding. Thanks for your video Shane and keep up the good work. Ride on !

Is that cable junction going to be sweat proof? Also seriously no sort of integrated tablet / Phone holder, doesn't matter can't afford one anyway :D

Hey Shane,few questions Are you able to steer the handlebars? (with zwift steering inc...) and does the elevation react automatically with zwift?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

No steering. It has a ton of buttons that should be used for this kind of functionality. The elevation/tilt does react to SIM mode hills, yes.

Tease! Stop with the daddy duties and hurry up with the next videos!! 😏

Nice to see you build Von's new bike for her. When does your one arrive?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

hahahh! Too true! Well... I'm waiting for Tacx to return an email about their smart bike.... *shrug*

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

@Concrete Head hhaha! Until that ERG mode is sorted, he can keep it. :) I need SMOOTH GOOSE steady state ERG. :)

Where the numbering is for the stem height adjustment I see has a flat section on the tube, so obviously that bit cant rotate, but does the stem mount onto that tube have a round section so effectively you could use any road stem? I was thinking if so, then loosen the 2 clamp bolts on the stem, get a bearing on the stem cap or just loosen that bit too, so you could steer, I wouldnt pull up but could it steer left and right? then you could use a phone as the interface? Just thinking of a way to add steering. It would wear down in time but greasing it would help.

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't go with just loosening the bolts, but there would be a way to engineer something with the current front end to allow steering. Weight isn't a problem with these bikes so it could be quite industrial.

Nice bike, but the front isnt aero with all those cables! Luckily I can switch it over to an all integrated bar and stem

@GPLama what’s the width of the bike with legs deployed?

Interested to know if q factor is similar to normal road bike. Will wait for next video

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Kickr BIKE Q-Factor 150mm. Well within 'road bike' spec.... ~147mm. WattBike ATOM is 160. MTB is ~170mm iirc.

@adrienlimsowtin6662

4 жыл бұрын

@@gplama very nice! Thanks Shane

I heard a little creaking noise when you standing on the pedals. Did you ever get this solved? I’m asking this because I just have a brand new V2 Kickr bike and those rear legs are creaking loud. From the beginning the legs are creaking. Loosen the bolts and put them back on did the trick for one ride. Second ride and creaking was back. Now I removed the bolts and greased them. In third ride, in the beginning, the Legs weren’t creaking anymore after loosening the bolts, greasing them and torqued them at 24nm. Now today after a 2 hour ride on Zwift the creak has returned. And it was again coming from those stabilizer legs. I removed the bolts and i was shocked that all the loctite was already away. 1) Put the bolts back with some grease. Quick spin and the creak was stil there. So I removed the bolts again. 2) When the bolts weren’t installed anymore. I did a quick spin on the bike and the creaking was away. 3) Installed the bolts again and put some special thread grease on them and also put some grease on the arms and at this moment the creaking is away. Now i’m wondering what the problem could be??? I want to point out some possible problems: 1) is there bad thread on the arm part of the bike so when the bolts are installed they creak 2) do i have bad bolts 3) are the stabilizer arm out of tolerance Happy to hear how you solved it!

Weird request Shane, but do you have any videos of you wheeling/moving the bike around?

@gplama

Жыл бұрын

Nope. It's a bit of a beast to wheel around. It has itty bitty wheels and it's pretty wide.

@whaleshark2625

Жыл бұрын

@@gplama thanks - hoping it won't be too cumbersome to move a few feet each time I use it. I couldn't pass up the discount on the V1 KICKR over Black Friday.

Looks good and better overall in term of execution than the Tacx one, but the Neo internal mechanism is superior to the Kickr.

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

We haven't seen the internals of the Kickr Bike though...? Word is that it's almost identical to the Neo....

@ihsangin5816

4 жыл бұрын

The cynic in me says Wahoo bought a neo 2, disassembled and built the bike around the reverse engineered Neo2.

I really want one but it's so overpriced at least in my country.

Looking to have this in the shed in the garden, what sort of clearance would I need if you were to mimic riding out the saddle? Thanks in advance.

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

I have no idea sorry. I guess that'd depend on rider height.

Max height is set to 193cm on their page... Is there any wiggle room? I'm 198cm long. Keep up with your awesome work on your channel.

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

I'll note this to cover in my fit/size video.

@curunirishtari6663

4 жыл бұрын

@@gplama that would be awesome. Got a bit bummed when I saw the limit only was 193cm.

how did the unit hold up over the years.??? issues?

Are you OK with the noise, mine is similar but my friends is quieter.

Do I have to install gaskets on the pedals?

Hmm.... Christmas is coming!

Did the petals that came with it have crank or hex screw? The ones I got were crank.

@gplama

2 жыл бұрын

Both.... I think? I didn't install them.

Not one I’ve seen mentioned but does the Neo bike have any way to control the wahoo headwind manually? I’m guessing it will transmit speed to it for that function but is there the option to use some of the buttons for fan speed up and down?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

No such integration. The speed way would be it for now.

@pantster9855

4 жыл бұрын

That’s a shame because I much prefer the manual control How wide are the supplied bars?

What is the Voltage and Amps of the power supply?

I dont need this but i want it.

Have to ask the basic question, why would I want this product? I own a 2018 Kickr that performs as advertised using my seat, bars, drivetrain, etc. When I want to ride outside I simply put the rear wheel back on. Other than the gimmicky climb & descent feature I don't know why I would opt for this over my current Kickr. Still, greatly enjoyed the video and will be watching all the others in this series.

@alanrigby8110

4 жыл бұрын

I think their target market right now is people looking for a complete "out of the box" solution to starting indoor/online cycling. The only converts they are likely to get from people already equipped are just gearhounds who have to have the latest tech. Time will tell if they modify the online experience to favor these bikes with extra features and buttons that are not apparently necessary right now....

@thankyoujesus2836

4 жыл бұрын

David Pancerz less wear on your bike, greater stability, less flimsy, chance to try different bike fits crank lengths, less fiddling getting bikes on and off trainers, no cassette, you can try different gearing, better feel, included powermeter, etc

@thankyoujesus2836

4 жыл бұрын

Electric shifting, you can choose your gearing,

@JanKowalski-pe9lo

4 жыл бұрын

You are 100% David. Rest of comments is from guys who are marketing need creation victims and with brains small enough to not see lack of logic thereof.

Is the seatpost 27.0mm or 27.2mm?

A question on pedal washers - if I am installing Shimano pedals to Wahoo kickr bike will I have to use the washers that came with the bike?

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

No need.

@arunpandy790

3 жыл бұрын

@@gplama thanks a lot!!

@staezione

2 жыл бұрын

yep

Does it come with a sweat guard ? How necessary is sweat protector

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't ship with one, no. It really depends how much someone sweats. It's always advisable to wipe things down after use. Same goes for all indoor equipment for any sport. Sweat is nasty stuff for metals.

Can we use this bike WITHOUT the app?

how is the setup whit bluetooh?

Really trying to figure out how to justify the purchase of one of these.

I will w8 2 years to see what problems will have this trainer ;)

Do you know how much could it costs ?

Can you confirm price of purchase in Aus Dollars please. Thank you Wayne

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Unknown at this point... I’d say with the AU dollar being pretty low, and GST, it’ll be north of $5500

Hi. Can you and Ray consult with zwift/wahoo/ to fined a solution to double the negative gradient correctly so we can benefit fully from kickr climbs/bikes. Also wahoo tech informed me that they have no plans to introduce integrated cadence on kickr 17. Hardware issue. Mmmmmm )-: Your thoughts?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

1/2 gradient descents? The last issue I raised with Zwift, I was told to put it on their community forum for votes so it'd be noticed.....

@doctorj5351

4 жыл бұрын

Wahoo to double the negative gradient sent by Zwift. Kind of understand why Zwift might ant to make downhills more challenging but wahoo need to sen the correct negative gradient to kickr climb/bike.

which app is that

Have you done a review of the Hamerhead Karoo?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

No. Not on the radar either sorry.

@mtbgo7860

4 жыл бұрын

@@gplama Thanks for the reply. Love your videos! It looks like a decent gps with touch screen. This seems right in your wheelhouse. Curious why no interest?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

The reviews out there to date from owners make it seem pretty sketchy. Looks more like company issues than tech letting them down. It’s had a troubled birth and I’ll give it room (and time) to improve before looking at one. Maybe v2.

@mtbgo7860

4 жыл бұрын

FYI. GCN just did a full review of updates and as I’m in the market for a unit, it seems to blow away the Garmin and Wahoo.

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

@@mtbgo7860 GCN are more a 'brand awareness' channel. There's nothing wrong with that... it's a more successful strategy than what I'm doing.... but.... I"m more comfortable getting hands-on myself, or information from other sources.

Do you know what the Q factor is of the cranks?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

150

Have Wahoo indicated the RRP yet?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

US$3499

@adrosmart

4 жыл бұрын

$5k is out of my price range

nice die wil ik ook

Any info if they accept kidney as payment?

Expensive for the average cyclist, really cycling already expensive. Guess I better get a good pair of runners and do the cheapest possible way to keep fit.!!!

@JanKowalski-pe9lo

4 жыл бұрын

cycling is actually not expensive. Just people lost their brains which companies abuse as much as they can. Simple

Is it cheaper to buy a new 105 bike and a new Kikr? Lol :)

@EJD2012

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. But if you share it with your SO, and you have to uy two cheapo bikes, a Kickr and a Climb you are about even.

@darinsteele7091

4 жыл бұрын

@@EJD2012 I wish I could afford this stuff :(

@PedroPrego

4 жыл бұрын

This is for gymns. They can revolutionize spinning classes.

@JanKowalski-pe9lo

4 жыл бұрын

@@PedroPrego How they could revolutionize? Care to elaborate?

@JanKowalski-pe9lo

4 жыл бұрын

@@EJD2012 Sorry but after ive sold climb i just wonder what an idiot want to have it. Its not natural. unnecessary and shitty overall.

Banana not bike for scale!

I've bought one and I'm thinking of placing it permanently (maybe not in winter) on my covered balcony. Anyone tried this? It's not indoor but it would still be protected from rain.

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

It might work... but it’s not an ideal environment for it. It’s designed for indoor use/storage. The electronics won’t like being exposed to the elements (hot/cold/humidity/etc).

What 2 man job what are youes going to do eat the bike

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Ewes 🐑

@michaelgallagher6232

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry Shane couldn’t resist it but enjoy your videos do you how much this will cost in Ireland 👍

2 man job what are youes going to do eat the bike