Hey folks - thanks for watching! Don't forget the full review here, tons more including accuracy testing and more: dcra.in/ROAM

@shaneturner4630

5 жыл бұрын

the dvice is too big and the screen isn't even to the edges - poor

@vincewhite5087

4 жыл бұрын

Watched vids &/for turn by turn navigation not that great. Also heard some say if you go off route you are off route. I am just a bike commuter so navigation is more important.

@robertj1303

4 жыл бұрын

@@shaneturner4630 Some of us need a bigger display because our sight has gone and wearing glasses and sunglasses is a No no. So it might not suit you, but it suits me. Edge screens as an engineer are difficult to save if dropped. This has been built so if you crash or it gets knocked off it will survive. So nice to have an opinion, but that is all it is.

@thekiteflyer1

3 жыл бұрын

@@vincewhite5087 , turn by turn on the Wahoos is great if you use it with komoot

Haha, that's me you saw enroute!

FYI you now can have turn-by-turn data from a strava export (with the roam), and also you can edit the saved location names via the app.

0:52 - #1 New 2.7" Color Screen (Non-Touch) 1:42 - #2 Routable Maps 3:12 - #3 Re-routing/Route Calculation 3:35 - #4 Back to Start (Most Direct Route) 4:07 - #5 Get Me Started (to beginning of course) 4:30 - #6 Saved Waypoints 5:05 - #7 Re-trace Route 5:32 - #8 Mountain Bike Routes Partnership

One of your best reviews. Thanks. Best regards Martin

Moved from Garmin to Whoo Roam and My first impression was it’s like a Tamagotchi, but after my first ride I am absolutely excited. It routed me perfectly through Berlin

I read your blog. The depth was just wow.... kudos

@redeux

5 жыл бұрын

You must be new here lol. But welcome, Ray is the best at what he does, that's for sure

Wow, your reviews are all super extensive. So nice with all the information and o e can tell that you do a horse job of testing and preparation before your reviews.. Great job, and you save a lot of headache for us all. Thanks

Wahoo and my samsung phone, a great combo. Its all I need. Thanx for the vid.

I like ur reviews man very detailed

Wonderful tutorial, - thank you 😊

Great review!

I navigated 210 miles across the UK over two days using my Bolt and it was more than enough. My Bolt also tells me street names etc. I actually prefer the monochrome display on the bolt, I hated the colour screen on my Edge 520 which is one reason for parting with it.

Would be good to hear how the unit improved over the years with updates. They are available quite cheap no one sale with the v2 units out.

In the absence of actually needing a new device I almost always find myself wondering what the next version may be like. I think with people reportedly waiting longer than ever to replace their smart phones, perhaps the similarly incremental approach in sports technology will eventually force manufacturers to look at introducing more substantial and fully functional features in each new device iteration. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Will the wahoo connect to the faster Bluetooth frequency ( i think 200hz) on the look exakt power meters?

Good review, thanks👍 It seems buggy so I might go for the bolt.

Not enough features to upgrade from the bolt just yet. I will stick with Wahoo though as in my experience they don't have the poor software issues that Garmin have. The Wahoo's "just work". Garmin works .... sometimes.

Nice work too Shane 😜

I like how with the magic of editing, on 14:28 moped turns into a car)

Thanks for the detailed review, was waiting for your thoughts. Going 530 need the better nav.

I have the Bolt and it is a great bike computer and the Kickr is the best home trainer. Having moved to a new country I am struggling to use it for navigation and end up using my iPhone instead. Will probably go Garmin instead of Roam for navigation. Thanks for this review.

Good review. Can you do a more in depth review such as setup and creating routes and uploading them to the Roam?

Nice review , how about an update review As I've just got one & it does a few things now that it didn't do a year or 2 ago .

Great Vid, can't get used to the word 'route' pronounced rowt 🤣

Great video, as ever. Couple of questions if I may? I've gone off route on a couple rides recently and it hasn't guided me back on course, despite having that option activated1 Also, is it possible to have the pages scroll every few seconds?

Thank you for your video. Very useful. I really hope they'll add the ability to add names to saved locations so it'll be easier to manage... Then this features becomes really useful.

@thekiteflyer1

3 жыл бұрын

You can edit the names in the app

Very interesting and great comparison with the other units. I am weighing up the ROAM vs the Edge 1030. As a long term Garmin user (Garmin Connect history and currently Edge 800 and VivoActive etc etc) the Edge 1030 seems to be the right choice. However to buy-in now, as the 1030 has been around for two years it may be that we could see a 1050 in a year or so. What do you think, Is it worth waiting to see what Garmin release, or could it be a long wait?

thanks, There are any updates about Roam soft now?

Hey Ray, do you use mostly use Wahoo or Garmin yourself? If you could only have 1 cycling GPS computer, which 1 would you chose? Thanks in advance!

Could you do an update review if they changed/added features? I am in the market for a GPS for riding MTB. I love the features that Garmin has like telling you the remaining route distance, remaining elevation on a climb, etc. However, I can't stop seeing people gripe about software issues that plague the Garmin and that's really pushing me away from it and towards Wahoo, but I really want that data among other features. THanks!

Has wahoo improved this unit since this video? Thanks

Garmin 530 or Wahoo Roam? I’m coming from a Garmin 820 which has been buggy at times, not as good at navigation as I hoped and after 2.5 yrs use now only has a 4 hour battery life. My 810 before that was less than perfect too. The 530 seems to have cool features but Wahoo has a reputation for being less buggy

Cracking blog 👍 Just wondered can you alter the unnamed saved roads by using the app on your phone?

@PensiveCashew

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

I've the Garmin 1000 and it has been amazing!!! It is however 5 years old and battery lifespan seems to be dropping, even with everything turned off while riding. I am thinking of upgrading to the Edge1030 but was considering the Wahoo Roam as it does seem decent. A lot of my friends use Wahoo now and the price is a lot better than the 1030! Good video as always 👍

i Don't think you mention anything about the out-front mount. I read somewhere that it is a fragile thing that can break easily...and your precious little device can fall off...what's your take on this ?

Hello, Did Wahoo update ROAM maps with elevation data? I.e. does it show upcoming elevation profile when you make a route directly on the device with „take me to...” functionality?

Congrats Hugo for making it on to Ray’s video! #Where’sHugo?

The most honest review yet

thnaks for this

Any chance you could review the Bryton Ryder 750?????

Great video.... did Wahoo ever deliver on those commitments? Strava Turn by Turn, and Elevation?

@TheRdrage

5 жыл бұрын

yes. and radar support coming soon

What is the better MTB device? Garmin?

Excellent review. You addressed the screen size early on which I was interested in as going from a water-damaged Bolt (side button flap detached) to std Elemnt was disappointed in gaining a cm or 2 of height and no extra width. Looks like the Roam bezel is better. That said, I like the simplicity of the b&w display and the breadcrumb feature once you get used to it is delightfully simple. I never use turn-by-turn as it takes the fun out of riding. Just become savvy with the breadcrumb. Fearful that the extra map detail will make it less useable/more Garmin-like. Trying to fit too much into too little (not just size, but computing power)

@koenvandensteen4180

5 жыл бұрын

The side button flap on my Elemnt has come loose as well, just so you know. It's a Wahoo issue not simply a Bolt issue (unfortunately)

@pss999

5 жыл бұрын

The Wahoo breadcrumb feature with the chevrons is fantastic. So many times I've gone the wrong way with my Garmin since it just showed a line and I wasn't sure which way I was supposed to (at the start of a loop for example!)

Great stuff as always Ray, always love your stuff. But I gotta ask - what are the circular things under your bar tape?

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

SRAM RED eTAP blips. Allow gear changing from bars. Never used them. 🤣

@The65Guy

4 жыл бұрын

Lol....I was just wondering the same thing! Took a screen shot to ask my roadie buddy.

Dude ! You have been in Holland for this review. Cool ! How did you like our country ?

@arnoldhau1

3 жыл бұрын

He is a resident of Amsterdam? So it is fair to assume he does like it.

what im wondering.. how do you turn this colors on? I see them on my incoming call for example, but not the map?

Will this be compatible with myzone?

Garmin all day long 👍 great review dc 👍

I'm a Garmin user now, but back when I used to own an ELEMNT, there were two extremely annoying bugs that ultimately contributed to my ditching it. First, the cue sheet did not automatically scroll after a turn. Instead, the distance-to-turn field for that turn continued to count down into negative numbers. To get back in sync with my current location, I had to flip to the map page and then back to the cue sheet. Even then, the results were not ideal. Instead of showing the upcoming turn and the next two turns (which is what I think most users would want), it showed the upcoming turn and the two *previous* turns (turns that I had already made and did not care about anymore). Have these problems been fixed by now?

@pss999

5 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, I noticed that as well. Showing the previous turns was maddening. I haven't tried routing yet this year (long cold winter here in Montreal) so not sure if they've fixed that with any of the recent updates.

Love your reviews! Now there have been a few more updates by wahoo, do you think it has improved its value versus a Garmin Edge 530? Having a wahoo kickr core I've been impressed how much better that device is now than the day I bought it thanks to steady firmware upgrades. Garmin seems to dump and run, never fixing issues before moving on to the next device. I'd like to upgrade to a Roam from a Garmin edge 130, but based on this review is be edge 530 all the way. Has Wahoo improved the roam enough to be a real contender?

@timothywouters7811

4 жыл бұрын

Same question here

Good reveiw. And nice details introduction. I still like my cycling computer, Xplova X5Evo.I hope one company can launch cycling computer built in highest resolution camera.

@waynosfotos

4 жыл бұрын

Or a camera in the tail light using radar to trigger the camera. So it doesn't consumer power and hide your data all the time. I love my garmin radar, but a quick picture would make it as good as a head turn. Come on wahoo, lets see this?

I have one of these on order (got 10% off and free shipping). Assuming they get turn-by-turn with Strava routes working, this will do everything I need. I also like that I can recreate an outdoor ride using the unit to control my Kickr. I've been using an Edge 500 for seven years now. I also have a Hammerhead Karoo, but it's had enough issues that I just don't trust it to work all the time, so I'll give Wahoo a shot.

@chrisyoung8062

5 жыл бұрын

Where did you order the Roam with a 10% discount?

@pss999

5 жыл бұрын

@@benm468 Yes, agreed, I don't understand why DCR keeps going on about Strava routing... anyone I know who is serious about creating routes realizes how vastly superior RideWithGPS is. It's not even close. I'm glad Wahoo went with the best and chose RideWithGPS as their partner!

Will you so update review once they add more features? Curious to know what you think now there is Strava cues and a few other updates. Thanks

“Lollipop” and “gave up in life” hahaha. Too funny.

Hah, I never noticed until now that Wahoo uses the top LED array to show you the index of the page you are at as you cycle through them -- cool! That said, I am probably switching from my Bolt to the Edge 530. Just waiting for the 530 to become actually available and see if any major issues pop up.

@PhilipKaskela

5 жыл бұрын

Og elemnt has always done this

DC please check if the ROAM will calibrate the Garmin Rally pedals and if ROAM will record the "Power Phase" data (not and not so far..)

Hi, this review is about a year old. Do you have follow-up maybe wahoo firmware update. Route improvements or new user features. It’s a costly unit. Can you compare to Garmin Edge Explore?

Is the new Roam coming out this year or does it make sense to buy the current roam in 2022?

how does the map work ? If I ride in Swiss, later in Koblenz and maybe in India. will it update ? I never had a bike computer before

@TheDarkWayne

4 жыл бұрын

you have maps for america europe and so on directly on the device, you can download more through wifi and probably via the companion app...

The main problem with navigating with the bolt is that you can't scroll around the map. You can zoom out but then you cannot see the smaller roads that you probably want to use. Then there is the cadence sensor which is just a random number generator.

Hi everyone, I am doubting between a garmin oregon 700 or wahoo elemnt roam. I believe I prefer the oregon 700 for navigating there the roam does not really has this feature. what do you think? Is it possible to place komoot routes easily on the oregon 700?

Good review, but that the graphic quality of the screen, it hurt my eyes. @Ray, what is your opinion about the graphics quality of the screen?

I am new bike computers, so forgive my noobishess. Can you simply just record your rides out on the trails without downloading specific routes the device will want me to follow? Will these devices tell where I am at on trails without downloading them ahead of time? Also, I heard a problem with the Roam is that when you go off course, it tries to get you to go back to the point you originally left instead of how it is like on Garmins where you can just get back on track wherever you want. Is that true?

Is the roam or bolt better ?

Can i get wind notification while using roam

maybe it's not worth to upgrade a bolt for a roam but if i have to choose betwin the bolt and the roam which is my case, which one should i pick?

Would be able to handle a route from North of France to northern Spain 634 miles 1001 KM ?

@Dcrainmaker

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm, not sure to be honest - I haven't tried that. You might want to check out the Wahoo ELEMNT/ROAM forum, which someone may have given a whirl: groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/wahoo-elemnt-users

I love my Bolt, but the Garmin 530 seems so much more interesting and feature-packed, and it's $80 cheaper. This is super disappointing after 2 years of no new GPSes from Wahoo.

@sturdyvw

5 жыл бұрын

This ^^^

Just bought a Quad-Lock to use my iPhone with my Elemnt Bolt. All the features without having to buy a new unit.

@simonseddon5793

4 жыл бұрын

shanmac77 I’ve done this in the past. Trouble is that your phone screen isn’t designed to be on for that long. You have to force it not to dim or turn the screen off.. which means that the battery deteriorates. Even more so if it’s in direct sunlight. You’ll also want to get an anti-glare screen. Sweaty hands make operating a phone touchscreen quite difficult. So many times I struggled to unlock my phone after it locked during a big effort, i.e. exactly when you want data. If you’re in a crash, the last place you want your phone to be is out front taking the brunt of it. I could go on. These points are all fine if you’re a casual commuter. If you’re doing long distance or high intensity rides, though, a phone just doesn’t cut the mustard.

I have troubles with the power data displayed on my element ROAM, average power is higher than normalised power. Using a left-only 4iiii crankarm. Anyone else recognizing this problem? When comparing the 4iiii date to other power meters (not using the element roam) the readings are fine.

When is the new roam coming out.

HI DC, can you give a clue how did you mount the camera, that it's not wobbling all the place ? I'm looking for some help with that :)

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

I typically use a gimbal when shooting. Ike head units. Or, when not I shoot a bit wider using a GoPro Hero7 Black or my phone, and then I use stabilization software in post to smooth it out (and crop in a bit). Finally, I usually slow the head unit footage to 50%, which reduces the visibility of the movement.

@JacekThomann

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker and the shoot while you are riding? Maybe a vest? The idea of slowing the video sounds great.

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

Jacek Thomann Yup, all while riding. Years of practice. I’ve tried chest mounts, but the perspective is too far away in most scenarios for head units, except as establishing shots. I think I had one or two of those in here somewhere.

Was going to buy one of these but release date keeps getting pushed back and back. Anyway switch back to Garmin 530 and very happy I did. Wahoo have lost a lot of customers doing this. Very poor by Wahoo.

Hello guys, is it possible to load 3rd party maps downloaded on the internet on the Wahoo? Such as Openfietsmap, where on a Garmin I can put the map ".img" file on via USB and the map will show up on the head unit.

@audaxjoe

4 жыл бұрын

No it isn't. The customisation is light years behind Garmin. But the reliability in my experience is far greater.

Any updates on turn by turn navigation?

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, they've made some (good) updates in the past few weeks. I'll likely do a bit of an update once they resume shipping again (they currently stopped shipping after one week due to mounts breaking. They're expected to resume in early July.

I have the original elemnt. It shows street names and does turn by turn navigation when you make the route with ridewithgps.com

@waynosfotos

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, love the original elemnt, why you need a colour screen I don't know, they are jist harder to see in bright ozzie sunlight. The maps have worked for me overseas using komoot so don't see why change. I would still buy the old unit today, it does everything i need.

You can edit the name of saved locations in the Companion app.

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

Steps? I can’t find any way to, and when I noted it in my written review, Wahoo didn’t say anything about that being incorrect.

@patrickduffin8175

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker I think this sequence shows it, although I cannot translate anything here kzread.info/dash/bejne/mJ6KkqeOhsrfpLA.html

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

Weird, that doesn't exist in my app (not even the beta one). I wonder if it got pulled for some reason? (And Wahoo hasn't corrected me on that item).

To many companies bring unfinished products to market these days. Wasupwitdat?

@jjwa5410

5 жыл бұрын

Lean method/Devops.

@LuisManuelHdez

5 жыл бұрын

People still buy it. That's why!

@brandongittelman

5 жыл бұрын

Marketing, most likely. They commit to a release date/press event well in advance. Things get delayed on the development side, and they ship a product out that might need software updates out of the box. I'd assume there's a solid 30-60 day lead time from manufacturing to delivery to a consumer.

@dapodix

3 жыл бұрын

Agile Software Development / Continuous Delivery

I have a huge problem with *Route to Start..... it never works out... Keeps telling me No data use companion App..

Am I understanding it correctly that I don’t have to have Strava running on my phone and that this device will send my information (ride) to my Strava account?

@DHGV

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

Ray, you're the BEST! Thank you for the great dedication and details. I will stick with my Garmin.

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!!

Having bought a Garmin 820 based on a DCR review, I found features that sounded good were underwhelming and erratic. Basic operation like uploading at end of ride is cranky at best. Grade on ascents is negative at times (ummm). BT link to phone is bad. Overall, PITA device for me. Iv see the first REI review says/said "hey, the darn buttons are erratic". Fun to discuss the fancy pants features, but geez, the buttons should work. I guess I will pass

@motomoto898

3 жыл бұрын

Curious if you’ve tried an alternative device ..:

I decided on the bolt. The safe option.

At 9:16 wat app was did u use to show turn by turn

@Dcrainmaker

3 жыл бұрын

That’s just the route list mode, simply hit the lower left ‘Route’ button once a route is loaded.

would something like this ever go on sale? i’m looking into getting one for my boyfriend for his birthday. willing to pay full price but it’s quite the pricey little gadget!

@noyanerermis4439

3 жыл бұрын

At the time of me writing this comment competitive cyclist offers 15% off for first time email subscribers wink wink so that’s about $55 off.

Clean up that workbench!!!!! Haha thanks for the vid

@Dcrainmaker

2 жыл бұрын

It’s more functional this way. :)

Hey guys, does anyone here know how you can make trails or paths displayed in blue colour? On my map(germany) they are just black...

Which one is better in terms of using in for training? Wahoo ir Garmin?

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

For specific ‘just show me the numbers’ type stuff, both are pretty equal.

@noahhalbfoster6892

5 жыл бұрын

if you have a garmin power meter garmin , if you have a pioneer Power meter then wahoo

@noahhalbfoster6892

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jay151 Garmin had advanced metrics for their power meters and Wahoo has a deal with Pioneer for advanced metrics with their head units and pioneers power meters

@TheRdrage

5 жыл бұрын

@@noahhalbfoster6892 Confusing. why Pioneer of all the choices? I don't know of anyone that uses a Pioneer power meter. Hell even their audio equipment has gone by the wayside. That being said, I also don't know anyone that regularly looks at the garmin cycling dynamics after the first couple weeks.

@noahhalbfoster6892

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheRdrage I'm a Dj.... they have been industry standard for over 20 years I've owned almost every cdj(CD turntable) the company has produced I solidly stand by their electronics... that said I cannot trust shimano cranksest as they cannot be relied upon to produce accurate results (look up gplama on here)

Hi there, thanks for the review, i have a question if u might....... does it has sound or vibrate notifications for heart rate like garmin does? Cheers

@cool_riding

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

Most important question? Can you send GPX file via bluetooth only to the device and use it? Let's say I created GPX from scratch using 3rd party app (e.g. Locus map), will it work? I had elemnt Bolt and even though it has "option" to send gpx to device it did not work. That's why I sold it. How is it with this model?

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, you'll send it via the companion app. Just ask the 3rd party app to open it using the Wahoo app and you're off and running.

@TheRdrage

5 жыл бұрын

If you want turn by turn, it won't work with gpx files. If you're creating the file, use tcx. and sync it to get the route on the device. The same with the Bolt and the original Elemnt.

I know a lot of people jumping back on the Garmin bandwagon for the new 530, but honestly none of them even need a computer for routing. Leaving GPS out of the discussion, it seems the Elemnt Bolt still wins hands down as far as user interface and the companion app.

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

I think it’s far more than navigation. In fact, I’d argue that Wahoo thinking it’s just about navigation is exactly what got them into this pickle now.

would you still buy it in july 2021?

i didn't find the route option on my wahoo :-(

@patrix1967

5 жыл бұрын

after the last update , the option is here

I guess the “lag” on screen refresh is due to video recording, right? Never saw this on my Bolt and I guess the Roam is not slower.

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

I don’t follow. The lag on the screen is real life. :/

@orci77

5 жыл бұрын

Since I am not a natural speaker maybe I cannot describe what I mean, e.g. recording 60fps of a 25fps display may create some effects the human eye doesn’t see. This means screen refresh on the Roam is slower than on the Bolt?

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

@@orci77 Totally understand, but it was recorded in 30FPS and edited/processed in 30FPS. In this case, the ROAM is legit slower for me. It's one of my core complaints.

@orci77

5 жыл бұрын

DC Rainmaker ok that wasn’t quite clear to me even after reading your review. Thought it was more related to mapping. But that’s not good. Thanks for the clarification and I stay happy with my Bolt.

@hgiusdfajgfds

5 жыл бұрын

What a shame.

Hi I’d like a new gps and you seem to have experience about that... my choice will be done between garmin 1030, Wahoo element roam and hammerhead karoo. The main point for me is the navigation while cycling road and off-road... which one will you advice to me? Thanks a lot...

Everything you cannot do with the elemnt roam, you can with sigma sport fox 12.0. But I have not seen a review of the Sigma?

question how remove counrty from elemnt roam ? thnx

I'm upset this map reroute feature isn't updated to the Bolt. It's a basic, core feature that was missing from the Bolt, not something I should have to upgrade to get. Also still like the smaller form factor of the Bolt.

@Dcrainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

But the BOLT doesn’t have the map data to actually re-route. That’s what’s added to the ROAM (which requires a ton of storage).

@ickeausberlin36

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker Lezyne did this with their Super GPS when connected to the phone. I left Lezyne for the Elemnt and was surprised that despite doing it all better they did not have the rerouting (via phone) feature. Thanks for your review. I was hot on getting a Roam but it seems to be much less than their marketing told it is. The map should be movable even when in a ride. The points to save should be nameable and should be allowed to save beforehand. Being able to make your own points of interest would be a massive feature for long distance bikers or bikepackers. Imagine the unit giving you a warning for resupply sources or control points etc. nearby the route. I am going to watch a video about the garmin 530 now. The roam does not excite me that much after seeing how it performs at the moment. I´ll probably stick with my Elemnt for now.

@kierenkd

5 жыл бұрын

They have to seek you new stuff to stat in business, else they would do a subscription service

I'm sure you realise that you can edit the name of saved points in the app these days. Great review, I've just bought one myself so going to be interesting trying everything out

@Dcrainmaker

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can now - but you couldn't then. Cheers!

@thekiteflyer1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker , good to see Wahoo taking things like this & Radar integration on board

@SteveT__001

3 жыл бұрын

@Martin Reading So what do you think after a few months use? I am looking to update from a Garmin 520 and wanting good navigation for touring.

@thekiteflyer1

3 жыл бұрын

@@SteveT__001 , can't fault it, navigation is great, I use it in conjunction with lookout for planning routes

@SteveT__001

3 жыл бұрын

@@thekiteflyer1 Thanks