“Zemo isn’t Zemo.” “The Vulture isn’t Vulture.” “Hela isn’t Hela.” The Floor here isn’t Floor.

@Mirrorcomics24

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it’s carpet

@elijahblechman8633

3 жыл бұрын

Han solo in the space slug be like.

@b.sharp.

3 жыл бұрын

Duh, the floor is lava.

@Timewarpiaman

3 жыл бұрын

"Aunt May isn't Aunt May she's actually a bunch of other characters like Mr Negative..."

@exchanegedtag

3 жыл бұрын

The toilet isn't the toilet. Its your sense of humor... Friggin' rekt.

This entire series is going to conclude with "Nando isn't Nando", right?

@meduimrareberries5888

3 жыл бұрын

The real Nando was the friends we made along the way.

@johnelmartagbago3764

3 жыл бұрын

@@meduimrareberries5888 *LOL. Ahahah*

@osmanyousif7849

3 жыл бұрын

He's Justin Hammer in disguise.

@santiagogarza8121

3 жыл бұрын

Hes actually captain midnight

I’ll say it again, as long as the difference isn’t negative or terrible, comic accuracy doesn’t matter. The beauty of comics is that different people can put different twists on characters. If it’s an interesting character, it doesn’t matter.

@hamzab2k

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed-throughout the video I was wondering if this was a video complaining abt something that was perfectly amazing as is - but I think it’s better to approach this video as a comparison of comics vs MCU rather than far-reaching complaints.

@benl.4577

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. As long as they never degrade the character or make it just one sided, I will never disagree with a change in the character.

@hasthehighground8560

3 жыл бұрын

@@hamzab2k you don’t think it is. He’s not hating he’s comparing

@youtubersworldwide3713

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@hamzab2k

3 жыл бұрын

@@hasthehighground8560 yeah I know he’s comparing - I was just trying to explain how people might see it as hating/complaining and that it’s the wrong way to approach the video

Another Goblin comparison, is that the Vulture's wings in Homecoming are an independently operated mechanical flight suit which can attack Spidey.

@yepimbatman

3 жыл бұрын

I always thought that Vulture's wings in Homecoming were very Doc Oc-like. He used them as arms and weapons so much that I feel like MCU Doc Oc would be kind of boring in comparison

@johnelmartagbago3764

3 жыл бұрын

@@yepimbatman If they managed Doc Ock correctly then he'd be more interesting than any villains since He's the goat.

Wait they turned a boring jewel thief into a compelling character? How dare they.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much and I love them for it

@kingkong9892

3 жыл бұрын

Kilmonger isn't kilmonger

@zenbrown7144

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, a lot of characters that are comic staples in team ups, can't really carry any sort of idealogical or emotional conflict for a feature film, so they get a nice overhaul. Vulture is a classic character, but he's never really had a massive story where he's central.

@PittsburghSonido

3 жыл бұрын

Wait vulture isn’t an old dude in a winged suit whose main power is arthritis?

@MontgomeryWenis

3 жыл бұрын

And they even managed to make his Vulture moniker make sense, since he scavenges parts.

Vulture isn't vulture, he just works as a Scavenger picking apart the carcass of destroyed buildings from the Avengers, like a certain carrion bird does for dead bodies...what was that bird called again?

@TheEvilCheesecake

3 жыл бұрын

Crows.

@jestagoon8408

3 жыл бұрын

Elon Musk

@prestonpoler1954

2 жыл бұрын

Paul?

@bryannkam

2 жыл бұрын

There's also the fact that Adrian's main motivation boils down to him just providing for his family, much like how most birds (including actual vultures) will do anything to care for/feed their young.

Malekith isn't Malekith, he's way more fun in the comics

@LuchoZeta9

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, mcu malekith really was a letdown

@Cheesusful

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuchoZeta9 since seeing thor 2 a friend showed me him in the comics, he's so campy and fun, would have worked great with hiddlestons loki... instead we got the most boring villain in any comic book movie ever... oh, apart from the yellow cloud in green lantern i guess....

@LuchoZeta9

3 жыл бұрын

Malekith cómics edition cut Thor's arm with a Joker copyright smile...... Seriously, we all needed this guy in the movies and not what we got

@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently among the early concepts of the character, he's more of an 80s rockstar type character and Mads Mikkelsen was to play him. We missed out in greatness.

@Cheesusful

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom I reckon Eccleston could have played him like that too but the director seemed to be going for a fairly serious lord of the rings aesthetic.

1:27 "he has a green color scheme..." that's like half of spidey's rogues gallery XD

@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770

3 жыл бұрын

That's because they're from the '60s. Green is a very 1960s color, you know.

@xavierramirez1911

3 жыл бұрын

@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 it’s not a “1960’s color”, it was just an overused color scheme for supervillains.

@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770

3 жыл бұрын

@@xavierramirez1911 most of which were made in the 1960s. Now villains are muted black and gray.

@revan0890

3 жыл бұрын

I think NerdSync did a video on why blue and red is used for Heroes and Green and Purple for Villains.

@Pax-pw4es

3 жыл бұрын

Gotta balance those colors. You gonna use up all the blue and red ink and have a bunch of green and purple lying around the printer?

What I like about the the most recent MCU villains are that they are mostly slight re-imaginings of classic characters often for the better and can be mish-mashes of other characters, that allow us to find them likable and sometimes to be understandable as well, to a point that we could see ourselves sympathise with them and understand their motifs in some way, like Vulture, Mysterio, Ghost, Hela, Loki, Killmonger, Baron Zemo, Ego, and of course Thanos, not to mention most recently Agatha Harkness, who is quite fun.

@theznayx808

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't just allow us to find them more likeable, it allows comic book readers to be surprised. I imagine that's actually the main reason they do this.

@reubenleslie4693

2 жыл бұрын

@@theznayx808 I've never really thought about it but your completely right, I've read a hundred comics with each of these villains and I always find that MCU films give me a whole different experience, it doesn't feel like reading another comic, it feels like a completely fresh story, it's wonderful.

Nando when he gets views off of this type of video: “It’s free real estate”

@z-beeblebrox

3 жыл бұрын

It's truly the perfect combination of drawing in his own viewership with a series they enjoy, and baiting MCU fans who've never heard of him and think this is a troll

I think my favorite thing about the MCU is that the villains aren't taken off the page. I want villains to be compelling more than I want them to be comic accurate.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@evilotto9200

3 жыл бұрын

i like that they're not just getting offed at each picture's end anymore

@joshheralal8758

3 жыл бұрын

@@evilotto9200 I appreciate Spidey's villains not dying as well.

@SirBlackReeds

3 жыл бұрын

And MCU's Vulture isn't compelling. Besides, having a compelling villain shouldn't come at the cost of making them an in name only version.

@mr.iiconic

3 жыл бұрын

@@SirBlackReeds he's plenty compelling if you ask me.

You could definitely do "Ghost isnt Ghost" from antman and the wasp

That’s exactly what i was thinking: “WOO! is there no end? 😍”

@NandovMovies

3 жыл бұрын

Never! ❤️

I’m loving these vids coming back. Hopefully we get a Agatha isn’t Agatha when Wandavision is over.

@BlackVeilSavior

3 жыл бұрын

Well, she IS a witch from the Salem Trials who befriended Wanda for her own less-than-altruistic reasons. All that’s missing vs the comics is her being an old lady (physically) and perhaps Nicholas Scratch as a character, if Senor Scratchy isn’t a reference to him

@BlackVeilSavior

3 жыл бұрын

Well, she IS a witch from the Salem Trials who befriended Wanda for her own less-than-altruistic reasons. All that’s missing vs the comics is her being an old lady (physically) and perhaps Nicholas Scratch as a character, if Senor Scratchy isn’t a reference to him

@MusicMan75636

3 жыл бұрын

she really is agtha just doesnt look old

@theghostofjeffgoldblumdail9613

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlackVeilSavior Agatha in the comics may not be a paragon but she isn't evil, she helps out the Fantastic 4 whenever they have a magic problem and used to babysit Franklin Richards, she was Wanda's mentor and actual friend, not pretending to be her friend, they were actual close friends, and it's not confirmed if MCU Agatha actually participated in the Salem Witch trials since the only time they've been referenced is when she says her and Ralph's anniversary is on June 2nd, when the witch trials began, but that's not confirmation, it's just a reference, we don't have confirmation yet

@nirast2561

3 жыл бұрын

@@theghostofjeffgoldblumdail9613 You haven't seen Episode 8, have you?

1:10 if I can repeat my joke Vulture is Vulture. Pack it up boys, that's it for the day

@NandovMovies

3 жыл бұрын

I'll allow it

Actually, there's also Luke Carlyle, AKA Carlyle the Calamari: He's a con-man who had become the top guy in his company who hired Dr. Ock and stole his technology, then had his team of scientists make him a new power-suit based on Dr. Ock's technology which uses a green color-scheme. Luke also collapses an entire hotel on Spider-Man and Spider-Man kinda does the If This Be My Destiny thing again. So basically he's a con-man who had his science team make him a power suit based on the tech of someone else, who collapses a building on Spider-Man

@NandovMovies

3 жыл бұрын

That is an incredibly deep cut and I respect the heck out of it

*Nando isn't Nando.* Yes, he's Nando. Yes, he does v Movies. But he's not Nando-Nando. So far my research proves that he's at least half Justin Hammer with some similarities to Kevin Feige and a very-difficult-to-prove connection to MODOK. I'm still trying to figure out the other characters, though. But whoever they are, I know that Nando isn't Nando. And that's okay.

"Make this a series" -says EVERYONE

Nando: *Does a 'Villain isn't a Villain' video after not doing one for three years* Also Nando: Wanna see me do it again? Also, two views? Boy, I'm early.

@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe I should randomly going back to making KZread videos again.

@theobuniel9643

3 жыл бұрын

It just so happens that he also covered all 3 villains of the MCU movies released in 2017.

4:20 I feel like there's almost a 100% chance The Vulture running a salvage company was based on the fact that vultures are the most recognizable scavengers on earth more so than it was any existing Spider-man villains.

I do like the fact that Vulture takes leftovers from the aftermath of something, kinda like the animal

@IcyDiamond

2 жыл бұрын

I remember my friend pointing this out to me in Gym Class

The thing is, in the comics, you don't really need really complex or deep or even layered villians all the time. The rogues in those days were usually only around for an issue or two at a time (not including arc villains), who only have to be an obstacle for the hero temporarily. But when you adapt them for a movie, especially since audiences want them more complex now, you have to go around and find several smaller character that have interesting peices, and throw them together to try and make a sing, but sometime more than a single, character that is multi-layered and interesting enough.

Nando: take a guess Me: Pyro Nando: go ahead write it down Me: Pyro! Nando: No peeking Me: PYRO! Nando: You ready! Me: IT’S PYRO! Nando: It’s Blob Me: FUUUUUUUUUU

@dradel2050

3 жыл бұрын

I said Toad I was close

He protecc He attac But most importantly He brought this awesome series bac

@TheEvilCheesecake

3 жыл бұрын

Christ dude read a book

Homecoming's Vulture reminded me a lot of Spectacular Spider-Man's Vulture in one way. That Vulture had a vendetta against Norman Osborn in that show, much like how Homecoming's Vulture had a beef with Tony Stark and the Avengers. But that's about it. I was so glad they didn't mess with Mysterio too much in Far From Home.

Vulture's your favorite villain? MORE THAN JUSTIN HAMMER!?!

@TheEvilCheesecake

3 жыл бұрын

Hammer has potential. Toomes is great as he is.

He’s not Vulture, he’s better

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

3 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

I feel the need to mention molten man who is Liz Allan’s stepbrother in the comics

@radrno7

Жыл бұрын

That must be an alternate version like the 'Spectacular Spider-Man' cartoon, because in the comics Mark Raxton, Molten Man, is just some scientist that got some formula accidentally spilled over him and turned him into a man-sized Oscar lol

@tarapanda

Жыл бұрын

@@radrno7 check out his wiki page, he is her stepbrother in the comics

@radrno7

Жыл бұрын

@@tarapanda That must've happened later I guess. That means Molten Man is Green Goblin's stepbrother-in-law lol

I would like to add that in the ultimate comics sometime after ultimatum adrien tooms gets his vulture wings from the tinkerer and doesn't make them himself

The MCU Vulture may not be accurate to the comics, but hes more plausible, relatable, and better supported by the universe at large. Hes superbly acted, principled, ruthless and daring. Hes my favorite version of the character and Michael Keaton kills it.

Comics have long established the idea that there are many _many_ versions of comic book characters. So as long as the character is well-written, there should be no problem.

I still remember how he was stealing people's youth in the Spider-Man 90's animated series and turned peter into a Grandpa for like two episodes. Most traumatic story arc of that show right after the one when Peter transforms into actual scary Man-Spider and goes feral

Dark Knight Rises: Bane isn’t Bane

"Don't mess with me kid." "Why?" "BECAUSE I'M BATMAN!" "WHAAAAAAAAA--?"

Can't believe it took so long for me to realize that his salvager job is supposed to be a reference to him becoming a Vulture.

Please do more videos like this! I love hearing about how they take elements from multiple characters from both the 616 and Ultimate universes to do fresh takes on the villains in these movies.

I love the Vulture suit in Homecoming but to me he always looked more like a big robot owl than a vulture

I would definitely love to see a "The ancient One isn't The ancient One" video. I really liked the MCU version, but the comic version will always be my favorite.

Technically Vulture doesn't know Peter either when he starts. He does crimes for 8 years before his daughter takes Peter to homecoming.

Imagine homecoming but it's just Michael Keaton trying to be young again 😂 wait that's BirdMan

So your saying he's six sinister people? Hmmmmm.....

'Favourite single Marvel villain?' Pretty sure hes married

I always get chills during the dad talk scene

Additionally, you should have mentioned Molten Man, Liz Allen's supervillain stepbrother.

@tanoathome6461

3 жыл бұрын

Or that she was married to Harry Osborn when he was the Green Goblin

I feel like Toomes in Homecoming had a hand in constructing his suit because he's scene welding something in a few seen. So maybe he built his flying suit with the Tinkerer being a major help

I LOVE that Marvel Studios adapts their characters

Ok, so I thought to myself, “what could be the memeiest, most ridiculous mutant villain I could guess”, and the blob seemed so outrageous that I had to pick him. I’ve never been so proud of myself for getting something right while trying to get it wrong.

@connorschultz380

3 жыл бұрын

I picked the toad...

I love this kind of videos, please keep em coming, you have some knowledge Nando

Sandman is so salt-of-the-Earth, he's literally the earth!

I like him being a salvager, cuz that’s essentially what vultures are. They scavenge off broken/dead stuff

Great content, as always. *But that's ok* is legit the key. Vulture works in the MCU and fills a few available situations such as 'What happened to the Alien tech from Avengers Assemble' and helps to give the intimidated 'Girlfriend's father' that helps to present Peter as the shy teenager. Epic character and hope he returns with the Sinister 6.

Pyro? Is Liz's dad Pyro? Edit: oh, I guess that would have made too much sense...

"Sometimes the Sandman even kills his dead uncle" How can someone kills a person who was already dead?

@Crunchles

3 жыл бұрын

I think you misheard. I'm pretty sure he says "sometimes the sandman even kills his dad-uncle."

@gwina64

3 жыл бұрын

Dad-uncle

@stevencooper564

3 жыл бұрын

It was ret-conned in the third movie.

@alexandrefrauches132

3 жыл бұрын

Alright, I must have misheard.

I called it. I knew this was gonna be the start of another series!

mcu vulture: threatening badass interesting villain comics vultute: weird bald man

Dude, I literally watched amazing spiderman 2 yesterday; went through such an emotional journey and now you are playing the gwen and peter theme and I want to cry.

"Big Wheel's big wheel" - Nando vs Nando

Blob eating Wasp is the worst thing ever

He was way different than the comics, but Keaton portrayed a complex and compelling villian with a solid threat/ motivation

I knew it I wasn’t the only one that got Green Goblin vibes from Vulture. Especially that scene where he used his wings like the Goblin’s glider.

One of the things I love about the MCU, is that it's all very much based on the Marvel comics, but none of it is completely based one *one* comic. And the villains all seem like a slightly main-streamified version of someone who could very well come from the comics while not just being a character directly from the comics. I feel like MCU respects the source material while being different enough to make it interesting.

I think it's interesting to examine the MCU's depictions of Spider-Man villains since Vulture really only carries over one main aspect from the comic character, that being he's a guy who's driven due to those above him taking away his work, and even then in a very different manner. On the other hand there's Mysterio who unlike Vulture has most of his core characteristics carried over and fleshed out more, except Vulture's motive is fundamentally the same as the comics, whereas that's the biggest change they made with Mysterio, it wasn't just that he failed in other fields it was more about a lack of influence and attention. Vulture presented us with the most human villain in the MCU yet, and Mysterio was an incredibly smart but also petty individual who was a far worse human being than Adrian Toomes, but that I feel worked to emphasize the contrast between his 'cool hero' persona. Still in my book they're my two favourite Spider-Man film villains, Vulture objectively is a better character but Mysterio blew me away for how well they adapted probably my favourite villain from the comics. Here's to hoping we see both of them make a return at some point.

You're right, Vulture isn't Vulture...thank goodness. I've been reading Spidey comics, watching cartoons etc. since I was a kid and not ONCE did I care about Vulture (until Homecoming.) Old baldy was a boring character and chances are if he was in the issue/episode it was a filler episode - or it was a Sinister Six story and he was just there to soak up Spidey punches. Michael Keaton's version is my favorite comic book villain ever!

The Tinkerer is basically Edna Mode for the villains

Punisher isn't Punisher in the Netflix marvel show

Next: Mysterio isn’t Mysterio. After: Mephisto isn’t in Wandavision

@Kdot6_16

3 жыл бұрын

Well we know that

@srstriker6420

3 жыл бұрын

Peter Parker isn’t Peter Parker

@Matyunkin

3 жыл бұрын

It was AGHATA ALL ALONG!

@charlespuruncajas9663

3 жыл бұрын

@@srstriker6420 MCU’s Peter Parker is basically white Miles Morales

@srstriker6420

3 жыл бұрын

@@charlespuruncajas9663 correct

I Love this series you're starting

These types of videos no longer feels like youre trying to find what characters inspired the writers, it feels like youre just finding whatever the mcu characters is remotely resembling in the comics

@casteanpreswyn7528

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this. A few of these were real stretches...

@jonathancampbell5231

3 жыл бұрын

Eh. I think he's stretch it worse before. This parts about the Green Goblin and Doc Ock at least were pretty unquestionable, and yes it would have been nice if they showed his inventive side a bit more.

Your cranking these out rightly

'he isn't Vulture... and that's ok'. Yup

He's not Vulture, he's Birdman.

For Liz Allen, I guessed it was Pyro. Fire powers, makes sense. I did NOT see that coming.

@jadesmith8653

3 жыл бұрын

I guessed Blob just because I didn't have a serious guess. I didn't expect that to actually be the case

not ONLY did the blob eat the wasp, but literally in the very next page, hank eats the blob in revenge

I love this "Blank Isnt Blank" series, please keep it up... although I don't see how you can...

I LOVE THIS SERIES, DO MORE PLEASE.

I know you. You're the 'character isn't character' guy.

@backwardsbrain2255

3 жыл бұрын

Actually he’s the ‘One small change’ guy

I really enjoyed your video about Hela, because yeah they pulled from quite a few other characters. But the zemo vid and especially this one are kind of stretches.

Not sure if you know this, but the purpose of the Ultimate Universe imprint was to try and see, in the wake of the leather clad X-men movie debut, if Marvel could reimagine the comic universe in the more grounded and “gritty” way that could possibly one day translate well to Hollywood films. Ultimately, this was a success and even led to much of the early MCU being based on the Ultimate comics imprint. Things like Sam Jackson Fury, the Triskelion, militarized Carol Danvers, several of Captain America’s early and more painfully nationalist traits, Iron Man’s early armors and how they were assembled, Hawkeye’s early appearance and attitude, the idea of Thor being a mental patient, Ned Leeds whose name comes from 616 but he is clearly Ganke Lee from the Ultimate comics, and much much more.

"Hey Vsauce here! But what IS here? Where is what?" Nando will get here

Please keep doing this series

It is interesting, that they probably worked backwards. They clearly wanted a Green Goblin. They probably even built a lot of movie around having Goblin. The fact that Vulture harness is almost autonomous is a dead giveaway, as no other flying villain can separate themselves from what makes them fly (as in wings of Vulture and Beetle are integral part of the costume while Goblin's glider is not). And then they either realized that we probably won't be happy with second Goblin in 2 years and found another green aerial villain to fit in. And what a fit it is. To the point of having an obscure Vulture II. Blakie Drago stole OG's equipment and was a Vulture himself for a time, until the original came to take the mantle back. Almost like certain other colorful character

Video idea: Nando isn't Nando You talk about all of your KZread and other media influences.

Nando you forgot Liz Allen's brother is molten man

Do Ronan isn't Ronan from the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie

PLEASEEEEE MAKE MOREEEEEE OF THESEEEEEE!!!!!

9:28... I've seen this Marvel comic image used in a ton of video essays, and I'm just now noticing that they drew Spider-man with 2 left feet...... Now I can't unsee it and it bothers me to no end.

Vulture being a scavenger in Homecoming made total sense to me.

I always loved the Prowler! The Tinkerer is a villain I didn't know I needed. I remember that New Mutants issue, #86 as it's the book before the first appearance of Cable... That issue where Spiderman does the Hulk Hogan...I gotta do this for all the little Spidermaniacs, starts shaking and rises above the situation... I always hated about Spidey... How his stories seemed like an old school WWE wrestling match. How he would be losing a fight, being beaten to an inch of his life. Then with only one page left, he'd think of Aunt May and get a lucky shot and win the day. I always had to listen to a friend of mine growing up who collected Spiderman comics how Spiderman beat Firelord, or how he beat Iron Man 2020.... while my favorite characters like Iron Man or The Prowler would constantly get beaten in there on book Sorry... had a PTMCD (Post tramatic Marvel Comics disorder) flashback.

I really dig the idea of the Vulture functioning as the Marvel equivalent of Captain Cold in the film universe. Green Goblin almost has to be "Dennis Hopper/Blue Velvet" level unhinged, but Vulture as the guy forced to live off the scraps (hence the name) in a brave new world is a cool take

Legit from the moment I saw in the trailer of Vulture's wings detaching & knocking the pillars over I was like, "That's the Goblin Glider. That is a secondary airborne threat that Peter is largely unaware of while he is distracted by the villain. Vulture's wings have NEVER been a detachable unit like that, that has only ever been an aspect of Spider-Man vs Green Goblin fights."

Accurate or not he was still the most engaging version of the character I've ever seen 😅

I’m really digging this “blank isn’t blank”video series

Regardless of whether this version of The Vulture is reminiscent of the comic version or not, the MCU version of the vulture is my favorite.

I love this series

You could do "Doctor Doom isn't Doctor Doom" I don't know why every film iteration gives him superpowers when his power-set is more Tech/magic-based.

Can you make a video on The upcoming Peacemaker show? And Nando isn’t Nando

High key love this series

Spider-Man villains usually don't start out knowing Peter. That's a Raimi thing that was carried over by Webb. They didn't make them have personal connection in the comics

So mysterio was actually EAT more faithful than I was expecting, but it'd still be nice to see the other villains who may have inspired his MCU portrayal

Took me ages to notice it, but also, his jacket has a big ruffle(?) at the neck it just like Vulture's traditional costume