Didn't see your poll, but I've gone VR and can't go back. My brain tells me it's just a game on a monitor. My stomach actually sinks on the Nordschleife in VR.

@LeonardoDG2084

3 ай бұрын

Indeed!

@JZStudiosonline

3 ай бұрын

I just tried the Quest 3 for a week and took it back. I can't begin to understand how people say this like somehow it isn't obvious it's still a game in VR. It's neat, but it's too much hassle, too expensive, too uncomfortable and realistically doesn't add much.

@nololol

3 ай бұрын

@@JZStudiosonline a 3d image with depth and elevation change is always superior....what actually happened is you suck with computers, probably didn't use a link cable (airlink is blurry and laggy for sim), and didn't use it long enough to get over the possible stomach/eye problems.

@alexanderdiak

3 ай бұрын

@@JZStudiosonline i did the exact same thing. bit of a hassle, and not very comfortable for long races

@DesyDesotell

3 ай бұрын

Makes it worth it every time.

Some facts for VR newcomers: while wearing a VR headset, you see the game world in real 3D and all objects in 1:1 scale. It just feels like you are IN the game. You DON'T have the feeling to have displays very close to your eyes, like some people might think.

@ZoltanF1LH

3 ай бұрын

With VR I got motion sick and headset was also uncomfortable after 30 minutes. It wasn't a great headset admittedly so I'll give it another go when they improve. I also find VR prohibitive with needing the best spec PC to run it acceptably and all the fiddling that you have to do to set it up 😒

@b.s.7693

3 ай бұрын

@@ZoltanF1LH motion sickness is something to overcome. This is because your eyes see movement, but your body doesn't feel it. But once your brain get used to it, you will not have problems anymore.

@ZoltanF1LH

3 ай бұрын

​@@b.s.7693I'll have to give it another try at some point

@KoplingID

3 ай бұрын

@@ZoltanF1LH Remember to stop when you feel sick, do not force yourself. Next time you'll feel less sick. At this point I feel nothing even when I was only playing at 36fps

@PazLeBon

3 ай бұрын

yes u do

I’m using a Quest3 in iRacing. And sometimes I forget it’s just a game. It feels so immersive. The feeling of driving wheel to wheel is full 3D is just something else.

@ruds0n895

Ай бұрын

Would you be so kind to elaborate on your setup?

@Devloup

Ай бұрын

im with you i can even feel my heart beating on adrenaline when im in a dangerous overtake. also going from a slow car like formula vee after getting used to it, to a formula 4 car feels like you re going to die haha

@Devloup

Ай бұрын

​@@ruds0n895my setup is rtx 3080, ryzen 5800x3d and ts pc racer wheel and base with t-lcm, i have oculus link cable and quest 3 with a bobo vr halo strap and silicone face cover

Don't have room for triples, so VR is perfect for me!

@ukaszenkowwiernowolskicz4321

3 ай бұрын

For me too

I'm training for real racing, so VR is the clear winner. I didn't have the configuration issues you mentioned. Took me 30 minutes to install the app, update game settings, and get into my first race.

I've been using VR since the Oculus DK2 released. Before I got it, everyone was telling me that I'd need to be constantly troubleshooting and messing around with settings, etc. but the reality was; I plugged it in, configured it, and it worked. Apart from the odd restart when weirdness happened, it has been a painless experience.

@PazLeBon

3 ай бұрын

thats still a minority

@Gthornby

2 ай бұрын

I also have DK2 kit. It still works in modern games? not used it for many years. My first time playing with it was on half life 2 and alien isolation back in mid/late 2000's (had to do some file modification to get them to work) My first impression was "I'm not going back to triple screens" games felt more immersive, like I'm not looing at a monitor, I'm' actually in the game! Funny experience with alien isolation on VR, alien jump out at me, I totally forgot where I was, scared the living daylights out of me and I fell over backwards from natural reaction bashing my head against a wall. Didn't play that on VR again for a while. lol

@seanberry1

2 ай бұрын

@@GthornbyI honestly have no idea - I put it back in its box and stashed it when I got the CV1 and haven't looked at it since. I'll have to plug it back in one day and see

@Retheraq

2 ай бұрын

@PazLeBon intelligence is definitely a curse on a minority. One of the few benefits from it, however, is the ability to solve problems 😉

@PazLeBon

2 ай бұрын

@@Retheraq oh for sure, ,intelligence manifests in many different ways. Tho we still need the basics of those thought processes in place

Just got the quest 3 for sim racing. Already had my triple screen stand, but Im emigrating soon so avoiding getting more gear at the moment. I will no longer be going triples. Just uninstalled all of my non VR games. Nothing compares to being in the actual car. Pimax headsets look too uncomfortable. Raced 20 hours this weekend with the Q3. Took me 3 weeks to get everything dialed in and set up ti where I want it. But hardly any discomfort using the quest 3 for that length of time. Did buy a aftermarket head strap. Love the pancake lenses on the Quest 3. Threw up from motion sickness on my 3rd day. It took.2 weeks and now I no longer suffer from motion sickness. i may get the Big Screen VR headset. Comfort is everything especially because of the length of time I spend in my rig

@Armitage574

3 ай бұрын

I am also thinking about switching to the beyond, still using my vive pro from 2020 XD but its slowly showing its age.

@michaelbuckers

3 ай бұрын

Pimax is definitely the least comfortable headset right now. The sheer weight puts a ton of stress and physical pain on your nose bridge while turning the head rapidly, and the scalp areas under the headstrap start to ache after a couple of hours. The only way it can be comfortable to wear is if it had an actual racing helmet form-factor. That said, it has unmatched FoV and resolution, which is extremely important in VR. If you can get conditioned to the unwieldy nature of Pimax, it easily blows out of the water every other headset.

@PazLeBon

3 ай бұрын

you realise you aint in the actual fkn car right? lol

@simonoregan4744

3 ай бұрын

You realise we are not actually having this fkn conversation right ? From the looks of it just as well. And yet here we are@@PazLeBon

@TRX25EX

3 ай бұрын

@@PazLeBon Shut up

I started with triples, and later went VR with the Quest 2. Definitely a step up in immersion, but also not too comfortable and unsharp. I left it for two years, and actually tried to sell it. A month ago I picked it up again and tweaked the hell out of it. I have a 2080 super, so no powerhouse. But I got it working to a degree that it now is too good to not use it anymore. But still, for me it is triples AND VR. They work both in it's own context...

I find it is quicker to get in the 'zone 'in VR but I can play more comfortably for a longer time with screens.

I had been bouncing back and forth from triples, to VR, to even ultrawide monitors. As I've gotten older and have less free time to do sim racing, I've decided that I just want to have fun with it. And the way VR sucks me into the race can not be beat by any screen. It is a pain not having sight of my keyboard and stream deck (as a button box), but it's worth the trade-off. Plus, since I have less time, I usually just do fixed racing on iRacing or single player in other sims for the vibes. EDIT: Get the Quest 3 over the 2! It's a night and day difference. Convinced one of my friends to upgrade too (they also were going back and forth) and the 3 made them switch to VR.

@PazLeBon

3 ай бұрын

utra wides deffo the besy solution of r90% of folk id say

I started on a single monitor on GT5 and ran that for about 7 years before getting a Oculus Rift and loved it instantly. Things have come a long way and about a year ago I went to an HP Reverb G2 and have loved it. No more screen door. No way I could go back. I tried to recently and had to get the headset out. Awesome way to go

I do simracing exclusively in VR since about 2017 and i can't go back.😎 And yes, you have to deal with some shortcomings in comparison to monitors. It can be slightly more uncomfortable wearing a VR headset for hours (or in other words ... it can get sweaty).😓 This also depends on the headset. My Bigscreen Beyond is much more comfortable than a very heavy Pimax Crystal. And yes, you have to handle all your dials and buttons on your steering wheel or button boxes blindly. You have to get used to this, but it's not impossible. And even if your FOV is way smaller than on a triple monitor setup, looking around in VR feels pretty natural and isn't a dealbreaker. All the shortcomings aside, racing in VR rewards you with the best immersion you can get. The virtual world feels 1:1. And because all is in 3D you get a better sense for distances, elevation, braking points etc.

Long runs in VR gets straining to me even its the most immersive.I use triples more than my VR headsets. I love both.

@benfrese3573

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, in the end triple screens are better when competitiveness is the main goal. VR is more immersive.

@chrisbennett228

2 ай бұрын

A nice sensible comment

@justgames3138

2 ай бұрын

Look into the bigscreen vr headset it in my opinion is best for Sims because of the light weight and high resolution.

I had a quest 2 and did not enjoy VR racing games , it gave me a headache cause it wasn’t clear and felt like I was straining my eyes. However after a mate got a quest 3 and a few discussions decided to get the quest 3. It absolutely blew my mind. I all of a sudden felt like I was in a race. Racing on a screen feels like you are playing a game. But I do agree with what you said once you go into the VR world everything or everyone disappears and I don’t really like that feeling.

i just got in to sim racing a few months ago, while pricing out everything i wanted and all different options to be able to build my dream set up over time i decided to go with vr for now, monitors can be pricey and i just went with a quest 2 (cheap and simple option) and i know people complain about the graphics, sure it doesn't look perfect, but to me the immersion with not perfect graphics and a cheaper option than 3 monitors or a nice ultrawide is a great way for me to start while i build the pieces of a full sim around me. might have to put the crystal in my list to look in to down the road when i upgrade

@JZStudiosonline

3 ай бұрын

I got a used 48" OLED off craigslist for $200. It cost me ~$550 for the low-end quest 3. Somehow that price comparison doesn't quite add up.

@abecede4389

3 ай бұрын

@@JZStudiosonlineI guess rbzpov was talking about calculating triple screen. So three monitors, and you also need a way to exactly adjust them to your rig which needs a couple of aluminium profiles, VESA mounts etc. It really does add up when considering triples.

@rbzpov

3 ай бұрын

@@JZStudiosonline quest 2 is 250 and if one monitor is 200 multiply that by 3 brother its not that complicated

@JZStudiosonline

3 ай бұрын

@@rbzpov It's not $250 new and around here even used it's not less than $350.

@rbzpov

3 ай бұрын

@@JZStudiosonline its currently $240.68 on amazon

Very well put together video. Danke schon

@OverTake_gg

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! ☺️ -Michel

I raced a quadruple stint at Bathurst 12 hours in VR! It was not as though as I thought, I just need a cup holder to have fluids close by. I have very limited space, so triples is not an option. Hardware is really important, going below 80 fps is not good for the head. The new rain system in iracing is freaking awesome!

I’m an airplane pilot and I love racing as well!! What I find is that in vr you really feel into the game, and your perspective is like the real thing. But for long sessions I use my single screen. I guess it’s a matter of size and weight of the headset. They should all go the way of big screen with a tiny headset!!!

Make sure you try it in VR first before spending money on a VR setup - on average 40 - 65% of people get severe motion sickness using VR in driving games making it unsable for these types of games - so don't waste your money until you test yourself first, if that is the only reason you are buying VR. Also, constant VR use can be VERY tiring. They can be hot, heavy, and cause visual stress.

Been using VR since day one ..not going back. This together with a 3DOF system and you are in racing heaven. For sim flying nothing beats VR and a 6DOF. 😉 Ps don't have to change the batteries ever when you use a powered USB hub. Btw discussions about fov is useless in simracing. If you have ever raced with full racing gear (helmet and fireproof gear) you should know it also limits your actual fov. And can get very hot and sweaty. So if you want true immersion VR is the way to go.

@PazLeBon

3 ай бұрын

no, real immersion is the real thing, if it iant the real thing, you remve the nasty parts

@TRX25EX

3 ай бұрын

​@@PazLeBonShut up

I have a very comfy gaming chair and sometimes I fall asleep or take a nap in the game chair. Falling asleep with a VR headset on and waking up is a surreal experience.

Triples is actually good if you race and do decals too,because you can have one screen for drawing program,one for to be able to see the car real time and another for inspirations/random show or music playing to get in the zone. :D

For me the choice was easy: my 1060 can’t run VR well and my eyes lost the genetic lottery for stereo vision. I run triple 24s and love it. I could see myself going to triple 27s or 32s in the future, but that will probably come with an upgrade to my system.

for FOV I don’t think we need 160 degrees on VR, but some solution for peripheral vision would be valuable - eg lower res LCDs to create ‘motion’ that your brain will notice, and then you can look in that direction for more detail. I think that could help a lot bridge the gap with the triples

Recently got into vr thanks to my father who gave me is acer ah101 and i'm not going back to triple, it's not the most "fluid" experience sometimes especially when you try to stream but it's definitely worth it if you're looking for the most immersive experience, i'm not playing in any competitive environment so i can't say how good it is but yeah i'm having a blast. One thing to note is that it can get straining really quick though, in my case i can play for about 2h max without a break when in comparison i can play for all day long without a break on triple screens. Time of day also affect (in my case at least) how long i can play, i find that driving night time touge is by far the most straining (even if it's a blast) i think the fact that VR is more straining is a good thing though cause i'm not spending nearly as much time playing but when i do i'm having the time of my life and enjoy the tiniest things like looking to the side to see your buddy flying past you on the shutoko freeway is one of these things. You definitely need a better pc for VR compared to triple or you'll have to lower graphics by quite a lot but it's definitely worth it, i haven't really done time attack yet so i cannot talk about "competitiveness" but overall i don't think it'll be an issue, i think it'll actually be an advantage because everything feels more "real"? Before the VR headset i didn't touch the game for multiple weeks but when i started drifting again in VR the difference was night and day. i guess the break helped in a way but the VR make it so much easier

I love both my Quest and Pico. I only play VR for SIM racing. True that it will take a while to do the set up especially if one only has mid range set up. But in the end it is so worth it.

I have been sim racing on triples, 49" 32:9, single + multiple projectors and VR. After 25 years of multiple monitor setups, and 8 years of VR, I can say the way you enjoy a sim or video game is incredibly personal and up to the user to determine what they really want. That said, multi monitors usually isn't for the faint of heart. I have a lifetime of editing config files so it doesn't phase me, where the average user that is a lot to ask. VR out of the box or a single projector works the best.

many people first experience with VR was quest 2 with original headstrap an airlink, so i understand why they complain but cable link quest 3 and a nice halo strap makes such a big difference, i also use a silicon cover so it goes soft on my skin

the thing with VR is that some people cant stand it. But if you can it's the best experience period. For my personnal experience : the first days i could only do sessions of up to 20min, it would make me lightheaded and dizzy, then i got used to it. Some people never get used to it. Being able to see in 3D and actually see the size of your car around you greatly helps immersion and driving, also the interiors are now something you look at before you start driving. I brake so much better compared to when i played on flatscreen plus when you're turning your head it's actually happening. VR needs serious horsepower but once you set it up correctly, you never play flat again. First VR headset was a rift s in 2019, we're in 2024 , i'm using the reverb G2 ( it has flaws but once it's working it's working) and man what an experience. Assetto + competizione mainly for me.

I only got into sim racing cos of VR. Before that I played more arcade racing games like burnout over forza ect on console. I played drive club on psvr1. It was really bad but my understanding of racing went up 500%. I ride a motorbike in life, VR gives me a similar view point. I can see the track a lot more, like when I'm on the bike. My levels of concentration are massively increased. It's just a lot more fun imo. When I'm not on VR, it's a single 55 inch 4k TV. I think my perfect set up, is a double 55 inch 4k screen set up. I think a lot don't do triples cos of the cost. Pc powerful enough to run 3, triple stand like £250 plus 3 monitors. Probably about £1k easy. That's buying cheapish monitors. My pc so under used lol. Only for VR. Legion go my pc now lol. Much lower power consumption for pc tasks. On aya2 I got down to 5w lol.

@QrisuMies

2 ай бұрын

Also motorbike here :) But planning on going to ps5/gt7/psvr2 route. Everything is cheap and plug and play and no bluescreens and other pc problems.

I have been using both a reverb g2 and a pimax 8kx (flight sims), i get much better performance with the 8kx even though the resolution is higher. What im trying to say is that cheaper vr doesn't necessary mean that you need less "juice" to run it smooth. There are so many variables, how the particular vr-set is working with the rest of your hardware, the chipset of the googles, what sims you are using it with, etc.

Aswesome video, would love to know lf you played with Q3. Wonder if the FOV upgrade is worth in this case, or the difference is not that big

My dream sim set up is my Pimax 5k, my fanatec CSL DD wheel and a H3 motion rig, which I'll be buying next month.

I've always used a valve index for racing and have had triple 27s and triple 32s .. not until I changed to triple 55s that I think it's as good if not better than VR due to how wide FOV can be where the back edges are already behhind my head. When I put my VR back on, the fov still feels like I'm wearing a helmet. Also had a bigscreen beyond for a few weeks and returned them as they're definitely wasn't as good as triple 55s.

I have a super ultra wide AND a Quest 3. Both have pros and cons but I find myself using the monitor far nore. Quicker to get going, better graphics & fps, less hassle. However for immersion and better track visualisation VR is way ahead.

If SteamVR and discussion of lens barrel distortion compensation is anything to go by, you need higher software resolution to the amount of 1.4x to 1.5x compared to hardware resolution to essentially see native hardware resolution, so the total pixel count for VR in this video is much lower than it should be.

@Coxy_Wrecked

3 ай бұрын

True.

I use a Samsung Odyssey G9 49" super ultra wide 1000R curved monitor that has the some benefits vs VR and Triple screens: - I get much higher FPS - no huge physical space required - there is no complex setup or fiddling with settings it just works out of the box - it works with every single game - it's comfortable unlike VR - it also won't make you motion sick. - it's cheaper than a decent VR or triple screen setup Cons: - although very good I don't get quite 180 degree immersion like with triple screen setup - resolution is "only" 1440p vertically - I don't get 3D perception like on VR - image at the very edges horizontally appear stretched I find it the best balance and compromise with my limited sim rig space and my PC that doesn't have the absolute best and newest tech

did you try the Bigscreen Beyond? its gaining traction within the sim racing and DCS Community fast just because its light and its ease of use. big headsets like that pimax are hopefully a thing of the past soon.. i mean ~1 kg vs 130 g; And iRacing with openXR really works best for VR; I agree with the FOV, but its not that important - VR ist just better than a screen.

VR is such an advantage. Once you do it it’s hard to go back to flat. For me personally I got much faster under VR, I can brake much later and hit apex better with depth of view advantage

VR is better for immersion. But how do you define experience? Because I've been VR for years but it's starting to be an issue being in VR as often as I want to. All headsets except the Bigscreen are too big and too heavy. So I'm going back to triples. Once the Bigscreen gets a v2, immediately go back.

VR is on a completely different league what concerns immersion.

Also, newer headstts (somnium Vr1 and Varjo XR4) allow for mixed relaity environments. So you could see the expensive wheel you bought.

@michaelbuckers

3 ай бұрын

Or you can just not bother with expensive rims and get the ones that are functional, and focus your spending on the GPU and the base.

@TRX25EX

3 ай бұрын

Quest 3 you just double tap it and it switches to Passthrough easily

VR got me into sim racing and I just picked up a quest 3! I could never go back to monitors now with how clear it is!

@PazLeBon

3 ай бұрын

clear lol

@TRX25EX

3 ай бұрын

​@@PazLeBon Shut up Hater

@PazLeBon

3 ай бұрын

@@TRX25EX lmao hate what you muppet?

@TRX25EX

3 ай бұрын

@@PazLeBon Shut up Donkey, jealous of VR users

Using both VR (Quest pro) and 32 inches triple samsung. Running these on 4090 and now i prefer triples because of filed of view and it is more comfortable in long distance rasing

@mementomori4972

3 ай бұрын

4090 owners are a bit like vegans. They will tell you...

@m.g.9334

3 ай бұрын

@@mementomori4972😂

Lack of FOV in VR replicates wearing a helmet and is a benefit for immersion, not a disadvantage IMO (I have Pimax 5K with 115deg). I am actually waiting on someone bringing out a VR headset that is an actual helmet :)

After going vr, ill never go back. There's nothing like being inside the car looking at the apex of a corner at high speed. Can't get that rush on screens.

VR everytime, for me. 3d vs a 2d flat image is no competition. I have tried triple monitors at a friends house and it just never felt immersive enough. In VR, you feel like you are there, but you do need to map your wheel to how you need it. If you need to look at your controls and have a Quest 3, you can set up the boundry so you can lean forward a little to see the passthrough. That's how mine is set up.

Well, I use both depending on the car I'm driving. I usually enjoy single seaters and open wheelers more in VR and everything else on triples.

The Pimax Crystal light it's about to be released for half the price! No brainer for me...

Just small correction from my crystal experience; hot-swap of batteries kills game and vr in 1second. Often I have to resatart PC to start crystal again. It is my second unit, booth were same behaviour.

I have 55" screen, I tried triples what a waste didn't feel right tried my friends Pimax..... now that felt right so i will get a good VR headset more than like the newest Pimax.

If you want a decent monitor expect to pay at least 600 to 700. So let's say 3 of those cost you around 2000, and then I didn't even mention the mounting system you'll need to keep youe monitors up and safe. Or the space it consumes. I can buy a vr headset with controllers under 1000 and it gives even more immersion. I would say unless you get motion sick from VR, it's really not even an argument which one is better.

For me the biggest difference is ease of use. I agree that with VR its more imersive and I do feel I drive better with it. That said the sweaty head from hours of use, the sheer amount of fiddling about with it, the adjustments of seat positions everytime you get up and sit back down makes me move towards triples or a large curved instead.

@dataterminal

2 ай бұрын

I'm a motorcycle rider, so having a helmet on while riding in real life is just how it is, and for many professional racing on a track helmet would also be required. They get sweaty at times, so a VR headset for me isn't that bad but I can see how you'd be uncomfortable with it. As for fiddling around with it, it's not that bad. I find having to use a keyboard to access additional options while behind the wheel more of a pain in games than anything a VR headset puts me through.

I got my 3 monitor setup for 240 bucks. MSI 27 inch 1080p monitors. They aren't the latest and greatest, but I can't splash out the required amount for the VR headset and system upgrades that would be needed.

I’m vr only, I’m all about immersion and nothing comes close to vr when it comes to immersion! Vr gets more and more popular as each year passes. It will continue to grow as folks start upgrading their older pcs. Entry level headsets are so cheap now and there’s a whole lot of sim racers upgrading their older pcs to this or last gen gpu’s and then this gives them the option to try vr properly. I see it everyday over the last nearly four years, people upgrade to a 30 or 40 series card and one of their first next purchases is a vr headset!

For FOV in VR, Pimax 8KX is the way to go. Or, like, was the way to go until it went out of sale. Now waiting for 12K. It's a pity that LITERALLY NO OTHER headset offers a similar FOV.

I prefer VR for immersion when combined with a motion platform. But I do often use a superwide and trackIR, which I think is an excellent experience.

I have both vr and triples but I prefer to play on triples.

I'll tell you what Pimax is awesome no doubt... They won't stand behind there product though. I have two dead headsets, one was purchased direct from pimax but had tracking issues from day 1. They would only credit me for another headset. Do you think after two dead headsets (tracking issues) I would want another?

VR sounds great but is it a problem since you cannot see the physical wheel?

Triple screens just take up too much room for me. They are nice, but prefer doing VR - more immersed into the games. Have done VR racing games for many years now and really enjoy them. I do have one large HD display screen for doing many things besides racing. Thanks for the video. Take care.

I use vr and wide screen. For more relaxing experience i would say monitor. Vr is more intense. Also the tweaking you have to do if you dont have a 4090. 😉 But at the end its al worth it. For me some days vr and other days the wide screen. 👍🏼

It really depends on the game wether I use VR or Single 16:9 screen. Some games are not that well optimized even on my 4080 rig. I am looking to get an ultrawide tho

Would rumblers help with motion sickness? because there is perceived 'motion'

I have both triple 27 screens and vr and i much prefer the vr . I think the future of simracing lies in vr ,you have 3d that gives better depth perception , sense of speed ,better braking points .Imagine a future where you have a 190° field of vision on a vr headset , just mind blowing and i cant wait for that future , screens on the other side will not improve by much the simulated driving experience in the next future

Krasser Akzent 😄👍🏼

I think there is nothing better for simracing than VR. you are in this world and you feel the distance from the apex of the corner and other opponents. This is a plus and a minus because you are disconnected. Sometimes my son runs up to me to show me something and it is not convenient to take off the set every time. However, taking part in the race and riding in general, I am in seventh heaven. I think that 3 screens have no chance with VR

VR becomes even better with a motion rig. Don’t spend thousands on stationary rigs, button boxes and fancy wheels. All you need is CSL DD, bass shakers, and yaw2 or DOF. Do it right the first time.

In my opinion, this question about how long you can be in vr…? Triple screen not on your head, this is definitely differents

@tom.m

3 ай бұрын

Everyone will be different, but even with all sorts of messed up discs and vertebrae I can wear an Index or CV1 for 8 hours or more. (Tested via space trucking in Elite.) There are people who practically live in VRChat. Of course it's less comfortable than not wearing a headset, but IMO this shouldn't be what scares people off VR. I've never ended a session because of headset fatigue.

not surprising... Triples or VR (with appropriate GPU/PC Specs) is a massive investment/commitment compared to all the other pieces of kit. VR gang gang all the way though!

What about 3d monitors? Would that work for racing simulators?

I got a Quest 2 just over a year ago but so far only used it once in sim racing, for some laps in an open wheeler in AMS2 ... and it was impressive, despite my system only having a Ryzen 5 2600, which is a massive bottleneck for my RX 6800 XT. System's out of action at the minute and needs new parts but it will be an upgrade once I get around to it.

I dont see this mentioned so much but in VR across all sims the graphical imperfections get amplified for example shimmering shadows and low res scenery textures, overly wobbly windy tree effects etc really brake my immersion. It feels like being in a computer game , where I can see how the illusion is being created . On the triples , these imperfections are harmonised and I can achieve a much more natural looking image to my eyes which gives me a greater sense of immersion. Its hard to explain but for me VR feels like looking closely at the graphical components of the game engine, not the overall scene.

guys, if you are on a thight budget you should do what I did to completely change your sim racing experience. I have little to no space in my room and I used to play on my laptop's screen, wich was terrible as it's a 16" display, literally smaller than my rim... I already spent all my budget on the wheel and pedals and I was left with 120 euros, that could have got me like a 1080p 75hz crappy monitor, but instead I choose to try and get a used Windows Mixed Reality Vr headset, they go for 60-90 euros and they don't need too much gpu power to run (I use mine with a laptop rtx 3060 at max res (1440) and max fps (90)). You will need a bit of time to set it up as you will have to do a lot of optimization to do in terms of perfomance. But I really think it's a greate deal as it let's you have a much better experience than a cheapo screen and if try it and don't like it you can very easily sell it for the same price you bought it for...

Turned my VR headset on (Quest 2 and Oculus Rift), started the game and have been racing ever since. I have never touched any of the settings. I got 90fps on my old 2080, I get 90fps on my 3080ti. I am consistently faster using VR compared to triple monitors. The space savings are also huge if your room is tiny like mine is. I would like to try triple 55" monitors but I only had triple 24" 1080p monitors. I can't ever see myself going back to triples. If anything, I would just upgrade my VR headset.

@jayk8424

Ай бұрын

Can you not use the VR headset in desktop mode to display three monitors then size to your own requirement? There wouldn't be any annoying bezels either. VR is the best of both worlds if you can have virtual triples of any size!

Hi. I currently use triples, but i found everytime go to turn on my PC, i lose my surround monitor configuration in the NVIDIA control panel and have to set it up everytime i turn on my PC. Is there fix for this or am i doing something wrong? Thanks

@OverTake_gg

3 ай бұрын

Hey there, most Sims by now can be run in triple screen without nvidia surround (just needs some setting up here and there). After the initial setup, there are no such problems anymore. I also switched away from surround for the exact reason. Which sim do you need to setup? - Rene

@PhiLikeFlying

3 ай бұрын

@@OverTake_gg Oh right. I mainly use AMS 2. When i first started up AMS2 after setting up in the Nvidia, i found the screens to be just right - i didnt need to go into the triple screen option in the game. So without using the Nvdia surround, will the screens still look the same?

I am considering selling the pimax crystal. there just is too much setting up while a triple monitor you sit and you press play.

I use both but I go back n forth. But I guess when the fidelity of VR becomes just a lil bit better then I will definately stay with VR. (I just got an occulus 1) I can also say that even the lighter occulus is a lil annoying after some time. Not only because of weight but also because of heat and sweat. But still overall although I have been there dozens of times - everytime I retry my headset on ACC I think "why do I even use monitors" but after like 20 minutes its always "mh. Image is not that crisp and it is a (tiny) bit uncomfortable though not too bad.

VR feels like I am actually wearing the racing helmet. Although playing for more than an hour is difficult because perspiration due to headset around eyes. I have samsung odyssey plus.

lol Bro, just finished a anime called overtake last night.. cool name and great video! Project Sim Racing uses triple 55 inch oled and he somehow has it where you can't see bezels.. disgustingly realistic! Check it out if you havent yet and keep up the great work Brother.

There is nothing that compares to VR. First headset was the PSVR in 2018 before getting the Vive later that year. The Vive was a nice toy, but my PC wasn't powerful enough, the headset was wired, and the resolution sucked. Skip to 2021 and I got the Quest 2. Wireless with a much better screen. I also upgraded my rig. Since then, I have acquired a Quest 3, G2, Quest Pro, and PSVR2. I can spend almost all day inside the headset eating, watching movies, playing 2D games in a theater, chatting, etc. Do you understand the hype of playing Mario Party 6 in a virtual theater with your friends in VR!? It's amazing. Only reason I'd get triples is for games that refuse to work with VR. There is just no comparison

i went from triples to 49in ultra wide with vr and now back to triples.. and i think im gonna stick this forever. at the end of the day.. triples win. less headaches for me.. its a simple but push and get in rig and start driving.. with vr and tuning it gets annoying real fast. with triples its a one time thing once the adjustments are done w/ the calculations ive never had to worry about it.. and the sim lab zero play and vario mounts are a game changer.

@OverTake_gg

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your journey! 👍🏻 -Michel

@JZStudiosonline

3 ай бұрын

I had 24" triples I ran with for a while, then got the G9 neo. But I'm not into it enough to never be able to use my desk so now I have a 48" TV shoved in the corner. VR might be cool for $200, but it really doesn't add anything.

@PazLeBon

3 ай бұрын

UWs win

If I had the space, i ll go triple. It is just simpler, looks better, a lot easier to render and most comfortable. If you don't have the space like me, VR is the next best thing.

If we talk about best clarity with Crystal you need to disclose that even tho the headset's display resolution is 2880x2880 per eye but, because if the barrel distortion you need to render the game at higher resolution. Optimal resolution to get best clarity is 4300x5100 pey eye !!!!!!! Now the pixel count your computer needs to render is nearly 22million. Thats nearly as much as triple 4k monitors. Btw same goes for every headset. Quest 2 and 3 you need to set it to x1.5 resolution to have a decent clarity

From single to tripple was nice...try the pico4 and that it is...but i missed the point from the i, so i take the pimax crystal and thats the point how was missing....can't drive any more on monitor and will not drive on monitor in future...the heat is a nice problem so i have 3 fans to cool my brain😅 the weight is no problem...also dsc is amazing when you make carrier start and fly...so at all try vr...but you can't go back...

cooler Pulli, where can i buy it?

@OverTake_gg

3 ай бұрын

The McLaren one? Its from Hollister 😁 #noad -Michel

I started iracing with 1 monitor, eventually switched to VR. Now I have an extremely hard time going back to monitor. The FOV is way off for me. Only sad part is, if I want to start streaming, I cant see myself make my viewers look at me with a VR on my face.

so, to me VR is absolutely UBER compared to anything BUT it's still a bit too unconfortable and requires a beast of a PC. a VR headset will cost as much as three good monitors, or even less, but you also have to beef up your PC a lot... if I could just start the game on my PC, put on the headset and go, I would play more VR, but browsing through menues, using steam VR and stuff is too annoying for me 😕

Anyone who says no to VR ain't had the right experience on VR, And I only got a Quest 2, Gutted I did not get the Quest 3, I really is, I can't go back to my TV screen now, After trying Dirt Rally 2 out, With simple specs, An i5 12600k and a 12gb 3060, I do think the 12gb of vRam is helping the 3060 out, But I got over 60fps and the latency was 3ms and 1ms last night, With High settings still looks great smooth gameplay, No stutters, VR is a total different experience since I been on the PSVR, I payed more for the PSVR than the quest 2, And the PSVR crap, A total waste of money, I have learned over time now, And wasting money on a console, I wish I just got a PC in the first place, Sim Racing is a world apart from using the console, But yeah for a few hundred pounds and a VR ready PC, VR is blown me away, I got the Elite strap with a 500mAH battery on it, Much more comfy, And 8 hours at least of straight gameplay, As a stand alone I will get at least 6 hours.... Yeah I won't be going back to the TV screen in a hurry, AMS 2 is fantastic in VR, I do think so far Dirt Rally 2 got the VR looking and playing the best so far for me, I get issues with ACC at the moment, I done some thing, I cant get the steering wheel straight, It goes to the right a bit, I can't figure out how to center the steering wheel or cockpit in ACC, How do I center it on ACC? Yeah for me VR have changed Sim Racing to another level, In fact it feels like I am learning the tracks again, And can see when the car is going to mess up, The back end swinging out, It is easier to catch, VR would make drifting easier too, I seen a video someone using Beam NG as a learning tool for drifting, For me that is fantastic, But I can't get Beam NG to work on the Quest 2, Please can someone let me know how to get Beam NG working on the Quest 2, I would love to do some police chases in VR..... Yeah I bet when people actually try VR, That person will be nor no way, I am using VR from now on, And the fact you can do multiplayer racing people on AMS 2 online in VR is mind blowing for me, I used to dream of having my own Arcade Sim Racing machine, I blew so many pound coins in things like Out Run, lol, I used to live in Blackpool, And yes I blew a fair few quid in the arcades, lol, Coral Island had a round thing, Jet fighting game, that when upside down all degrees of movement, One of those with a VR headset on, Yeah VR have blown my head compared to when I tried the PSVR and the older Oculus, VR is on another level, And with the amount of things that VR can be used for, A whole new world is being opened....

Do you have a correct/ or teal to life fov system to set up triples???

@OverTake_gg

3 ай бұрын

Sorry, not sure if I understand this correctly - for a "natural" view we linked a FOV calculator in the description! -Michel

@elvish4432

3 ай бұрын

Thanx 😁👍OverTake😁👍

Have VR. While in the flight sims its a MUST, in sim racing Im not that sure. Immersion - yes, but it will not make you faster. So if you are into a competitive racing, most pros are using triple for a reason. if you are into pure immersion and fun (but max 1h) then VR is way to go (In My Humble Opinion)

VR glasses without DP are worse than Trippels. I have Pico4 via USBC and it doesn't run as smoothly as Trippels. I just notice a lack of VR via USBBC or VRDP. And the VOF must be at least 150 for me.

I got Quest 3 and PSVR2 and will never go back to flat screen racing, even with 3 screens it's not the same.

Meh the Crystal is odd. It's supposed to be better than the other Pimax offering, but at the same time, loses on hFOV. Like... the 120-160° of a Pimax 8KX is the game changer for which I'd consider upgrading VR headset. Not for the Crystal (without the new upcoming lenses). Have you have a change to try that one? Or the StarVR One?

the batterie issue is a no go for a PCVR Headset for me ... its a cable conenction so i DONT WANT a batterie ... and as i know theres no dummy batterie available to eliminate this issue

iRacing claims that 1/3 of users are on VR - I use 100% VR on a Quest 2 and other than the frequent performance regression headaches it is amazing

I enjoy VR immersion, but find the screen quality isn’t good enough for me. Micro Oled is promising though. The problem is that most of the vr devices are trying to be stand alone. You’re not going to get awesome performance by strapping cell phone graphics to your face. I hope maybe something like the big screen beyond will come out with a higher resolution, wider FOV headset.

Love vr, space saving, immersive, exciting just can't play ACC 😢

I bought a quest 2 one month ago but on my rx580 Assetto corsa doesnt look good so i avoid playing it. ETS2 feels somewhat blurry but is better to play. The problem overall is that the VR is expensive and the PC rig has to be on par to play some games.

I have both triple screen and vr and from my exp vr is better but ive noticed im faster with the triple screen. Howeveri find myself having so much more fun in vr just makes me feel like im in the race