Volvo says "No More Diesel Engines" after 2024.....Kind of.

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  • @magnumjohnson9628
    @magnumjohnson96287 ай бұрын

    I work for a large utility in southern california, we have new electric freightliner cascadias that drop off material's to remote lay down yards. At the laydown yards, are large 16 cylinder cat diesel generators that are used to charge our electric semi trucks

  • @giggiddy

    @giggiddy

    7 ай бұрын

    California is the most hypocritical state in the union. This is a perfect example. But the fact that the majority of Californians clearly get behind that nonsense at times puts me in a rage. Because when the fake poser Californian supports that BS, the government assumes the rest of the nation is as equaly stupid. And it gets rammed down our throats. When batteries allow electric vehicles to do what ICE engines do, Ill be much more open to it. But to be a phoney and support it because you think it makes you look progressive and relevant to you equally ignorant douche-bag friends, makes me throw up in my mouth. Cheers! Ps- none of this is directed at you magnum. 😊

  • @hokie9910

    @hokie9910

    7 ай бұрын

    Real progress….

  • @benjamincresswell3713

    @benjamincresswell3713

    7 ай бұрын

    Go figure. diesel fuel to charge batteries. This is an obvious flaw from obviously flawed politicians. They are trying to tell us how to live. Evenutally you and I will have nothing. They even told us to Rent, not buy. They told us we'd feel better. The goal is to reduce us to serfdom. Since the beginning of time one person has moved to own another. War and Slavery are the antithesis of Freedom. ben/ michigan

  • @kingduck3192

    @kingduck3192

    7 ай бұрын

    As backup when the grid goes down. Local delivery trucks are excellent use for electric vehicles they have short predictable routes and are at a charging station all night.

  • @robotech1990

    @robotech1990

    7 ай бұрын

    Ahhh hahahaha diesel for charging . If someone understand s how thermodynamics laws work they will surely know that every time you make a transformation in energy you loose energy again and again. From diesel to electric to mechanic. Diesel to mechanic is shorter.

  • @ryanjordan9847
    @ryanjordan98477 ай бұрын

    I wish someone would start telling how much cleaner a diesel engine is now compared to 10 years ago

  • @Texassince1836

    @Texassince1836

    7 ай бұрын

    Diesel enthusiasts are too busy returning their trucks to 1990s emissions

  • @henrycarlson7514

    @henrycarlson7514

    6 ай бұрын

    @B58_ At a Cost of $10,000+ per YEAR. A Properly tuned Diesel is Very Clean

  • @JVPTH3MVP
    @JVPTH3MVP7 ай бұрын

    As someone who's on the dealer side of the commercial vehicle industry, there is a lot more skepticism and general doubt of an EV future that you don't hear about in the auto journals. One of the biggest issues that a battery poses is the issue of weight. For example, a Peterbilt 520 EV weighs 28,000 pounds as just the chassis, not including the weight of the body. By comparison, a Diesel 520 with an L9 or ISX12N Cummins is only coming in at around 15,500-17,000 pounds. Normally these trucks are just a 3 axle setup so they can only gross 66,000 pounds so now you're down a whole 10,000 pounds per truckload. Now, you can add drop axles to help increase your GVWR by some weight but you'll never be able to carry the same payload as the diesel as you can really do pusher axles like on the super dumps you see in the North East as that's where the batteries are. There's also bridge law which prevents you from being able put the max rated weight on axles groupings (normally a tandem axle is rated 38k-46k but under bridge law you're only legally allowed to scale out at 34k on that tandem) sop adding more axles on the back end won't work all that well either. Then there's the range issues. The Peterbilt 520 EV range is only estimated to be 80-120 miles so you can only operate it on rather short routes. On the point of charge time Josh was a bit off as you can quick charge with DC which cuts the charge time on most Commercial class 8 EV's down to somewhere around 2-3 hours rather than 9+ but that's still 2-3 hours that a vehicle is effectively down. On top of all of this is the cost; a 520 EV list price on the factory build sheet is over $700,000, though for our dealer group with our discounts it's invoicing for around $450,000. But that is still $450,000 for a truck that has objectively worse capabilities than a truck that usually only cost around $190,00-$210,000 and has much better attributes. This EV push is only because of government mandates and if legislation changes or people start to realize that renewable fuels are far more practical, then you can expect to see quite a course correction. For now we're all playing a ballgame for the amusement of one person, the government.

  • @user-zu3dh7lu9r

    @user-zu3dh7lu9r

    7 ай бұрын

    Edison hybrid electric weighs in at 27,734 lbs. bare bones spec as a vocational truck. meaning everything is heavy duty spec. Steer axle , half inch frame, 28,700lb liquid cooled electric drive axles. In British Columbia the government allows an additional 4500kg GVW incentive for zero emissions vehicles. truck actually is lighter then the Tesla truck.

  • @markkeister6057

    @markkeister6057

    7 ай бұрын

    So well said. Great explanation and alot of good information. Thank you.

  • @thetowndrunk988

    @thetowndrunk988

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah. They’re not replacing long haul diesels anytime soon. There’s just no way.

  • @jesusrodriguez7947

    @jesusrodriguez7947

    7 ай бұрын

    @@thetowndrunk988true but then we have to worry about self driving trucks on long hauls

  • @danhayes3546

    @danhayes3546

    7 ай бұрын

    Can you imagine 200 + trucks in the truck stop all charging up at the same time and the fridge trailers 2 no way will I be sleeping anywhere near that that’s is a recipe for disaster

  • @dtimboggs
    @dtimboggs7 ай бұрын

    Volvo automobiles and Volvo trucks are separate companies with separate owners.

  • @laukc7085
    @laukc70857 ай бұрын

    As a tech in the auto industry, I completely agree with what you said about the charging power grid. Unless the mining industry, assembly plant, the consumers' home, and everything else related to that electric car is ran on clea, renewable electric sources, the car is not zero emissions.

  • @JuniorJunison

    @JuniorJunison

    7 ай бұрын

    Hell, building them requires the emission of carbon

  • @Look_What_You_Did

    @Look_What_You_Did

    7 ай бұрын

    And losers like you refuse to admit that incremental change is required.

  • @htwrk2
    @htwrk27 ай бұрын

    Well said Josh! What turns me off about the whole EV situation is the sudden push by our government because of the "existential threat to the climate". This whole full speed ahead with EV's while at the same time shutting down our own fossil fuel production leaves us in a precarious situation. Typical government run operation.

  • @andrewdonohue1853

    @andrewdonohue1853

    6 ай бұрын

    The democrats ARE the "existential threat". Vote them out this nonsense will stop, as far as mandate nonsense goes

  • @cardboardboxification

    @cardboardboxification

    5 ай бұрын

    Delusional idiots CO2 is plant food , diesel is 100% organic

  • @anthony1636
    @anthony16367 ай бұрын

    A major problem has arisen in Europe when it comes to EV vehicles. Insurance has become a major set back in owning an EV vehicle. As many Insurance companies in Europe are refusing to insure these vehicles. Due to the cost of repairs even in very minor Accidents. The main problem being the batteries. Because after even a very small shunt the batteries have to be removed and in most cases replaced, as even the smallest crack or other damage makes them liable to cause fires or other damage. Yikes

  • @Nikowalker007

    @Nikowalker007

    7 ай бұрын

    EV vehicles are basically 4 wheel smart phones and just as reliable and practical 😅

  • @bendeleted9155
    @bendeleted91557 ай бұрын

    Amazing that all of this has to be explained to some people. My new neighbors who just escaped from the Bay Area have 2 EVs and have to borrow or rent a real vehicle every time they need to do something besides cart their butts around town.

  • @Look_What_You_Did

    @Look_What_You_Did

    7 ай бұрын

    What is wrong with that?

  • @GIGABACHI

    @GIGABACHI

    7 ай бұрын

    Some of us like to live in denial and replace reality with "their own". Let'em live "their dream", maybe one day they'll wake up and smell the real coffee. 👌😏

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@GIGABACHIya you wont be glib about it when it is your neighbor or brother in law always asking to borrow your vehicle

  • @wizard_of_poz4413
    @wizard_of_poz44137 ай бұрын

    Its important to remember their car brand got spun off and sold to a chinese company so theyre two completely separate entities with a common name

  • @michaeldunagan8268

    @michaeldunagan8268

    7 ай бұрын

    I did not know this... ... First of all our traitor Federal politicians allow China to buy up American cropland, ans now they are buying up European car makers.

  • @Longhauloutlaw
    @Longhauloutlaw7 ай бұрын

    City buses, local delivery and refuge trucks are all great options to move to electric cause they return to home base daily

  • @tbthedozer
    @tbthedozer7 ай бұрын

    This is the same point I try to tell people about electric airplanes. They operate under constant high horsepower requirements and they don’t get any lighter as the energy is consumed which will decrease range… until the storage of electricity gets much more dense this is going to be a challenge to find the right fit for the technology. It’s basically the same reason electric cars of the 1920 and 30s were replaced with gasoline engines. They faced the same problems, today the technology is better so they are more competitive. Electric is getting better quickly but it doesn’t fit all of the potential uses yet.

  • @Look_What_You_Did

    @Look_What_You_Did

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah I bet you do. The clowns that attempt arguments with whataboutisms that have ZERO correlation to ANY subject at hand.

  • @retjarhead
    @retjarhead7 ай бұрын

    There's a whole lot more going on under the hood of an electric truck than meets the eye, radiators are cooling the batteries and traction motor, heat pumps to heat or cool the components, 380 volt motors running hydraulic pumps for steering and booms, electric air compressor for air applications and a host of electrical logic, I thought same thing going in, thought it would be simpler, boy was I wrong.

  • @1hasbeen531
    @1hasbeen5317 ай бұрын

    From what I have read, the Tesla semi has a reduction box, so in essence a transmission. I also believe they do have a cooling system for heat generated during rapid charging or heavy load conditions.

  • @GT-mn3bx

    @GT-mn3bx

    7 ай бұрын

    All of Teslas flatbeds are Cummins diesels.

  • @ChevyConQueso
    @ChevyConQueso7 ай бұрын

    I work in civil engineering. Electrification is presenting major concerns due to increased vehicle weights, and in regards to the power grid and charging systems. Roads, buildings, parking garages, parking lots, you name it, it all has to be considered and adapted. It's way more complex than billed, and is presenting a lot of challenges that many of the environmentalists don't think about. Money doesn't grow on trees. These ideas need to actually pay for themselves in the end, if people are to invest in them. California, as usual, will lead the way, with ideas so good, they have to be mandatory.

  • @GaryBoyd02
    @GaryBoyd027 ай бұрын

    EV sales are actually quite weak at the moment most manufacturers are scaling back production goals there have been many articles in the last couple of weeks. Personally I have never been an electric believer as there are too many issues around mining for battery elements and also the disposal of toxic spent batteries. Just trading one problem for another in terms of the environment. Now hydrogen that is the way to go we just need to develop a distribution network with many smaller generation plants so eliminate the trucking of fuel. You can make hydrogen anywhere you have water, That is where the future is in my opinion. Look at JBL construction equipement in the UK and Lord Bamford. That fellow has the right idea.

  • @Look_What_You_Did

    @Look_What_You_Did

    7 ай бұрын

    All sales are pretty weak at the moment...

  • @hopingforthebest1.9

    @hopingforthebest1.9

    7 ай бұрын

    Hydrogen sounds good on paper. However, I feel it is far too dangerous for widespread use

  • @user-dy6fs7vd4g

    @user-dy6fs7vd4g

    7 ай бұрын

    Thry chemtrailing us and depopulating them then and pretending that Tesla is real and mc Donald’s is healthy

  • @nopenonein

    @nopenonein

    7 ай бұрын

    Hydrogen is extremely low on energy for the amount of volume it takes up.

  • @miltonandresdelossantoszab7738
    @miltonandresdelossantoszab77387 ай бұрын

    Also Volvo Cars and Volvo CE are separate companies. Diesel engines design and production is a main business of Volvo CE for their marine and industrial application business and because of that I don't think they will stop producing engines in the short/mid term.

  • @ironnerd8336
    @ironnerd83367 ай бұрын

    Great video. I want someone to explain how our electric grid will cope with all the high-draw electric vehicles. Last Christmas, Duke Energy asked everyone to reduce their power consumption because it was "cold." What happens when everyone plugs in their car, freight carriers have to be recharged, and it gets mildly cold during the weekend before Black Friday?

  • @cardboardboxification

    @cardboardboxification

    5 ай бұрын

    Commifornia wants everyone to heat their house by heat pumps, electric stoves, electric hot water heaters, and electric cars and commercial.. A cold night will take down the grid

  • @joecog8949
    @joecog89497 ай бұрын

    A very concise video. Kudos. A point may be also made on temperature variances in future videos.

  • @enslavedbytruth
    @enslavedbytruth7 ай бұрын

    we've got a line of battery electric Wheel-loaders/skidsteers at my dealership from Tobroco Giant...the system is adapted from electric forklifts....unfortunately we haven't sold one it

  • @The_Lincoln_Penny
    @The_Lincoln_Penny7 ай бұрын

    Volvo Cars and AB Volvo (Volvo commercial group) are not the same companies.

  • @mr_canoehead

    @mr_canoehead

    7 ай бұрын

    Came to say this. Volvo Cars was sold to Ford in 1999 and is currently owned by Geely of China,

  • @ThePackageLives
    @ThePackageLives7 ай бұрын

    To be fair, the Volvo car branch of the business has had no affiliation to the Volvo Truck/Equipment/Marine....pretty much the rest of the Volvo brand beyond the name as they sold that off years ago.

  • @dazfarrell
    @dazfarrell7 ай бұрын

    We are barking up the wrong tree with Electric! The source of the power is key here.

  • @CIorox_BIeach
    @CIorox_BIeach7 ай бұрын

    I saw 3 burnt spots on the side of highway, one with the remains of a car still in it, in the past week. I suspect they were all electric cars since they were too small to be semis and gas cars don't just burn down like that.

  • @davidpawson7393
    @davidpawson73937 ай бұрын

    Your average 80,000 pound semi is more efficient than your average 50cc scooter even when a big block is riding it where the mileage doesn't change much from the extra tessaunits. Edison Motors with their vocational semi-tractor is worth checking out.

  • @TylerTheFieldServiceTech
    @TylerTheFieldServiceTech7 ай бұрын

    Great video! Overall, our volvo fleet is pretty solid. Minus wheel seals, cab shocks, torque rods, and the occasional injector they are solid. Meanwhile, freightliner we keep sending back the dealer with less than 20k they keep having catastrophic quality control issues from the factory. Litterally had a drive shaft fall off one, and a drive axle shaft come out while the driver was going 60. I've never seen such an oil mess.

  • @100pyatt

    @100pyatt

    7 ай бұрын

    Replace the Torque rods with the Daycab solid brackets, you'll have much better handling as well, no more cab swaying ♥️🤩

  • @SireDragonChester
    @SireDragonChester7 ай бұрын

    Cummins is investing into Hydrogen. I've also seen some companies looking into hybrid. Hydrogen and Diesel. I think that could be answer for many diesel engines, if burn cleaner. You should do video on if Hydrogen Diesel could be good options.

  • @davidscott5903
    @davidscott59037 ай бұрын

    Also marine engines, and they're also one of the best.

  • @paulholm4827

    @paulholm4827

    7 ай бұрын

    They are very good but expensive.

  • @j.d.saccociates3313

    @j.d.saccociates3313

    7 ай бұрын

    What kind of glue are you sniffing? Most VP stuff kinda sucks.

  • @Look_What_You_Did

    @Look_What_You_Did

    7 ай бұрын

    Well behind Cummins.

  • @davidscott5903

    @davidscott5903

    7 ай бұрын

    @@j.d.saccociates3313 I said ONE of the best, not THE best. but if American diesel engine manufacturers can't get their act together and start innovating in a different direction than stupid EGR and DPF systems, then they will be left in the dust. Caterpillar has quit trying to innovate and improve their engines, so they have chosen to be left behind, and Cummins told me themselves that they are going away from diesel engines and they are not trying to pursue further innovation in the diesel engine industry, but they are pursuing hydrogen technology. So they're not going to work on improving, and Volvo will have the chance to overtake them. I was also partially referring to the marine sector, but I did a horrible job of explaining that. Can't you all read my mind?😁 What we need to do is eliminate the EGR, DPF, and urea systems completely and use a supercritical steam injection system to eliminate all of the nitric oxides without starving the engines of oxygen. I've already proven that it will work mathematically and theoretically, but I can't manufacturer fuel/steam injectors in my garage, or in my brother's shop, so I haven't done it myself yet.

  • @j.d.saccociates3313

    @j.d.saccociates3313

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Look_What_You_Did I run both cummins and volvo in boats... the cummins is a better engine

  • @user-zu3dh7lu9r
    @user-zu3dh7lu9r7 ай бұрын

    ​ You guys are right. It would be stupid to try and go full electric on all vehicles. The US alone would require 40% more electricity to be produced just to charge these vehicles, and there isn't the infrastructure in place to meet this demand. A better idea then attempting battery changes. Would be for the vehicle to carry it's own generator. Wrightspeed America and Edison Electric trucks Canada have already demonstrated. This is the route to pursue. Then the engine could be tuned to run at one specific rpm. You could run the vehicle on any choice of fuel using a much smaller displacement of engine Depending on the size of battery pack, how hard the vehicle has to work. Would dictate how often the generator would be required to run to charge the system. Edison's electric logging truck using a C9 liter Cat and his liquid cooled batteries and 28,700 lbs electric cooled rear ends. The generator is running around half the time while under heavy load to do the same work a 12 liter or bigger engine could do running all the time. Also the GVW of the truck it weighs less then the Tesla Electric truck.

  • @duanebuck193
    @duanebuck1937 ай бұрын

    I think one obvious area missed is the cold - EV's don't do so well in colder climates, and while they are getting better, they are still a long way from an internal combustion engine as far as cold weather operations and reliability goes.

  • @billcovert3473
    @billcovert34737 ай бұрын

    California has outlawed the truck diesel engine in 2035. It is my understanding that the heavy duty truck will be powered probably by a hydrogen fueled engine/electric hybrid. Currently there are diesel/electric hybrids, in intermediate P&D trucks. I worked on a Coke hybrid this week. BP, British Petroleum recently bought out TA, Truck Stops of America. In their announcement they stated they were going into hydrogen/electric fueling. I live in Redding Ca. across from the TA [I have been the outside mechanic for the various truck stops since 1981]. In mid July there was an article in local newspaper that the local Indian Casino tribe signed a contract with a Texas energy company to build a hydrogen fuel plant in Red Bluff. It took me about 60 seconds to realize that I was going to have a state of the art truck stop / travel center at my fence line. They are in the process of trying to get "sovereignty" over their holding from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. They get sovereignty then they can build a facility minus a lot of state and local red tape.

  • @user-xw4hn7lb3x
    @user-xw4hn7lb3x6 ай бұрын

    You should look into working on military bases for a contractor. Aircraft ground equipment is pretty much all diesels. Easily $40 -$50 p/hr.

  • @John-gj9db
    @John-gj9db7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the great video Josh. Do you see heavy equipment mechanics still in demand say 20 years from now if all trucks go electric?

  • @joecog8949
    @joecog89497 ай бұрын

    Something else popped in my head. Can an electric battery last 1+ million miles? A diesel can. Durability in laymen's terms.

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    7 ай бұрын

    Right on man. I owned 2 cats million miles engines. I rebuilt both at about 1 milion miles and put another million each. I agree and dont think the batteries in an ev would last even close to that

  • @raydavis74

    @raydavis74

    7 ай бұрын

    Imagine replacing a $100,000.00 battery on a truck that has 1 million miles on it

  • @danhayes3546
    @danhayes35467 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately Volvo have some full electric trucks in the uk 💩 …..I think it should be like a hybrid only a short distance on electric for revering and driving around distribution centres and city driving and keep the diesel engine 🙏

  • @4seasonenduro527
    @4seasonenduro5277 ай бұрын

    Curious to get your input on the Edison motors diesel hybrid system, an update with thier new build with the c7 generator.

  • @dfb1111
    @dfb11117 ай бұрын

    Spot on video. Thank you.

  • @nesh2003
    @nesh20037 ай бұрын

    We have electric Volvo fm in Malaysia and the range is around 500km per charge. But the price of lorry is about 2 times the price of a normal FM440 price, I don't think so it will do well yet over here. Still long way for us to go to electrifying lorries all, for now only passenger vehicles are getting alot but the infrastructure for charging is not vastly available yet.

  • @michaeldunagan8268

    @michaeldunagan8268

    7 ай бұрын

    You bring up an excellent point: the premium of the initial purchase price of an electric vehicle over an internal combustion engine vehicle. And I want to know about the total lifetime cost of an electric vehicle compared to an internal combustion engine vehicle. Fidteen years ago or so my father told me that a guy to pay $30,000 to dispose of his electric car; mostly due to the hazardous waste of the batteries I'm assuming. All you have to do with an internal combustion engine vehicle is call up the Pick-A-Part to tow it away and then collect your check.

  • @bencojo6846
    @bencojo68467 ай бұрын

    Always love information about anything you want us to know.

  • @persistentwind
    @persistentwind7 ай бұрын

    What are your thoughts on Edison Motors diesel electric hybrid concept?

  • @TimO-D
    @TimO-D7 ай бұрын

    Hey! I was wondering what your thoughts are on Edison Motors and their hybrid electric diesel vocational truck? Do you think something like that would take off in more in an off-highway application (bulldozer, excavators, etc.)?

  • @fastinradfordable

    @fastinradfordable

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed they solved most of the issues Josh discussed🎉

  • @AdeptApe

    @AdeptApe

    7 ай бұрын

    I literally made a video on them over a year ago, when they were much less popular. Check it out here kzread.info/dash/bejne/aX6AmaqSdJipddo.htmlsi=5aXJs7V-3eKmHOg_

  • @TimO-D

    @TimO-D

    7 ай бұрын

    Must have missed that video. Thanks! @@AdeptApe

  • @user-jp7rk1uf2n

    @user-jp7rk1uf2n

    7 ай бұрын

    Caterpillar had a Bulldozer with electric drive a few years ago. I haven't heard much about it.

  • @kingduck3192

    @kingduck3192

    7 ай бұрын

    That guy is just a gen Z or mellenial that likes to whine like a boomer. Hybrids don’t really work for high duty cycle vehicles and diesels have a governor that lets even the biggest engine use little fuel under low load. Anyplace a hybrid makes sense chances are an all electric makes even more sense. My great grandma use to have a little hit or miss motor to run her washing machine and it still took her all day to do laundry sure her washing machine was still in the barn and could be used but nobody wants to do that. His views on ease of repair are valid but if that really matters to you get an old truck and rebuild it because nobody else wants to buy a truck that can be handed down to their great grandchildren when the government only lets you depreciate a vehicle for 7 years.

  • @beaumullins6490
    @beaumullins64907 ай бұрын

    Look up telsala semi truck that pipsi is using now, it's already on the road and getting over 450+ miles 0n a single charge not sure about charge rate is , I think it's 45 min to an hrs. It's gross wt is over 84000lbs

  • @jannebus998
    @jannebus9987 ай бұрын

    Very good informative video Thanks Josh

  • @billyjackson5664
    @billyjackson56647 ай бұрын

    When EV sales die even more, share holders will tell them otherwise.

  • @jddowdell1774
    @jddowdell17746 ай бұрын

    Love your channel Thank You A couple of questions I have a 3406E 5Ek 19601 In a 1995 Frieghtliner Fld 120 No check engine light The problem is my tachometer, will go from 1450 where it should be when I'm driving to 1700 or 2100 and some times to 600 rpm without the engine speed changing, Which sensor is the ECM using for this I have looked over the wiring harness very closely and it appears to be in very good condition. My second issue is I have a exhaust gasket blown and need to replace it, but have been unable to find Good information on the proper way to do it and the problems might run into with the engine in the truck I guess what I'm asking for is a video doing this Thank You ❣️ I use you videos and information a lot, Jerry Dowdell Atwater Mn

  • @edwarddavis507
    @edwarddavis5077 ай бұрын

    Aren’t a lot of manufacturers making large numbers of engines to beat the emissions requirements that are coming.

  • @jtotherocker
    @jtotherocker7 ай бұрын

    Volvo cars are not part of Volvo Group. Geely holding is the owner of Volvo branded cars.

  • @michaelfitzgeraldnet
    @michaelfitzgeraldnet6 ай бұрын

    Can you please do a video as an extension to this on application specific use of battery that is being done by Edison Motors out of Canada for logging?

  • @Waterboy831
    @Waterboy8317 ай бұрын

    LMFAO!! That scream at the battery charge time! I know where that's from and can't help but LMFAO!! Great video Josh with lots of good points!

  • @heathroyer2276
    @heathroyer22767 ай бұрын

    I would love to see you do a video on the new Edison hybrid semi out of Canada.

  • @legionofanon
    @legionofanon7 ай бұрын

    There a product line called 8bitdo that makes really good Bluetooth controllers in various designs, one is the SNES shape, and there are other Bluetooth controllers in the SNES style. I have an 8bitdo controller, more of an xbox style, and i love it for playing games on PC

  • @12345anton6789
    @12345anton67897 ай бұрын

    Volvo Cars and the Volvo Group that makes Trucks, buses and construction equipment are 2 completely different companies. Volvo Group sold its car division to Ford in 1999 which again sold it to Chinese Geely in 2010.

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs19817 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing love watching always great content

  • @FlatPlaneCranky
    @FlatPlaneCranky7 ай бұрын

    Cummins 2026 upgrades their electric system to “Belt-driven, high output 48-volt alternator and aftertreatment heater solution designed for stringent emission standards”. Could you do a video on anything you know about this? I’m guessing that it will utilize electric heater grids to burn off the soot from the DPF….. I’ve always wondered since 2012 why they would use diesel fuel to burn off soot rather than a 48 volt system?

  • @aureliovillalpando3856
    @aureliovillalpando38567 ай бұрын

    Everybody keeps asking about josh's opinion on edison motors. He did a video on them a year ago when nobody knew them. Just search for it on his videos. Not that hard.

  • @AdeptApe

    @AdeptApe

    7 ай бұрын

    Finally, every freaking comment about "hey Josh, check out Edison Motors lol." Thank you.

  • @mrbill7944
    @mrbill79447 ай бұрын

    And what about hybrid Edison motors ?

  • @John5ive
    @John5ive7 ай бұрын

    Do you think they could try a smaller diesel engine as a generator like in locomotives?

  • @hokie9910

    @hokie9910

    7 ай бұрын

    That really is the answer at this point, I’ve always wondered why they have not come up with a “hybrid” 18 wheeler.

  • @fastinradfordable

    @fastinradfordable

    7 ай бұрын

    Look up Edison motors

  • @badgerpa9

    @badgerpa9

    7 ай бұрын

    google edison motors, they have 2 trucks built and testing.

  • @kunu98
    @kunu987 ай бұрын

    I run line haul and gotta say Volvo daycabs are much more comfortable than the new pete and KW tractors we have in the fleet. Roomy n smoother

  • @scottycollins1829

    @scottycollins1829

    7 ай бұрын

    U do knw KW & Pete also had sum of those cookie cutter trks that look like those volvos

  • @chubbysumo2230
    @chubbysumo22307 ай бұрын

    I think Edison motors with their hybrid electric truck has the right idea. The biggest issue with any heavy hauler, is getting it moving, it doesn't take a lot of power to stay moving. I do believe electric trucks can work, but they are going to be extremely short-range, and much lower load capacity. It would require a shift in the thinking of companies and independent operators. No more long hot shot loads across the country, you would have to pick up and drop off at a Depot within the trucks range, and then it could be picked up by somebody else.

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    7 ай бұрын

    Do you have any idea what that would cost. Not to mention how long it would take to get your goods. Perishables would rot in the trailer

  • @HunterDavis93
    @HunterDavis937 ай бұрын

    I hate the idea of electric but what I don’t get is why they don’t just put 2 or 3 alternators on there and it charge the battery just like it does in your car or truck now

  • @anttiroppola4414
    @anttiroppola44147 ай бұрын

    Unless you do something like swappable trucks or batteries a form of Bernoulli Euler beam theory or payload fractio comes in to play. The more fuel you carry, the more fuel you need to carry to move the fuel. Unlike diesel tank that progressivelygets lighter, an empty battery weighs just as much as a full one. The bigger the vehicle, the quicker the energy density trade off catches up with you.

  • @cageordie
    @cageordie7 ай бұрын

    I am not a great believer in electric trucks, I keep telling a Tesla loving friend to show me a Tesla truck driving from SF to Denver in a day. But screaming as you point to the 9.5 hour slow charge on a 43kW AC charger and ignoring the 2.5 hour fast charge with the 250kW DC charger is disingenuous at best. It's still 2.5 hours, but Tesla is testing 1MW chargers, which would give you a 40 minute charge. I still don't think they'd like hauling 80 thousand pounds east over the Sierras or the Rockies, but east of the Rockies and even north south on I5 and I15 they aren't that far away from being practical. If they can build out hundreds of v4 megawatt chargers. Tesla's design goes up to 3.75MW. If they can make that work you'd be out in under 15 minutes. And yes, a country that can't keep the light on in California in the summer, or the heat on in Texas in the winter really doesn't have the grid capacity to charge all these trucks. That's a much better point. However, a lot of the time, providing basically a middle sized town in extra consumption to run I80 from SFO to SLC isn't that much of a stretch. But what happens when your power grid shits the bed again in Texas and you have to go out and bring up the load one area at a time. How are you going to charge the electric utility trucks to get out and do that. Also, the power grid is much easier to attack than the fuel distribution network. Sorry, I work for a military contractor, so how to destroy things is never far from my mind.

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    7 ай бұрын

    I can just see the look on YOUR face if you are the shipper paying me to haul your goods and I tell you I will have 3 stops for charging my batteries that you will have to pay for. Thats 9 hours at $100/hr and of course charger time.

  • @joecummings1260
    @joecummings12607 ай бұрын

    A tesla semi weighs about 30,000 lbs that is roughly double what a diesel day cab tandem tractor weighs. One single tesla megacharger requires a 1,000KVA pad mount to be installed at your location.. Chances are slim that you have that much power out at the street. Pepsi Sac didn't even have enough capacity at the local substation to power their charger installation

  • @mikekahl4745
    @mikekahl47457 ай бұрын

    Hey Josh, are Cat batteries longer lasting that generic batteries ?

  • @word1901
    @word19017 ай бұрын

    your thoughts on the nikola hydrogen truck would be a good follow up video

  • @raycollington4310
    @raycollington43107 ай бұрын

    If the move to electric passenger car debacle is anything to go by. Someone is going to have to wake up and rethink the current mess. I like the slogan on the side of a coal train "Electric car food". Maybe they'll use a diesel alternative. Think how much work an earthmover can do on a tank of diesel. An Electric Cat D11 should be interesting. Thanks Josh It will all come out in the wash.

  • @twostroke12v71
    @twostroke12v717 ай бұрын

    Im in charge of a fleet of diesel school buses. After 2024 no new diesel engine can be sold to government and public agencies. Utilities, oregon DOT all fleets will have to go alternative power. Be it gasoline , hybrid , or straight electric for the new fleet purchases.

  • @user-vw2vr2pk2y
    @user-vw2vr2pk2y7 ай бұрын

    what is the brand name of the pressurized degreaser you use? it appears to be SS.

  • @OTRMonk
    @OTRMonk7 ай бұрын

    Volvo Trucks is separate from Main Volvo brand

  • @markdavis8888
    @markdavis88883 ай бұрын

    I just drove from Oregon to LA using only renewable diesel R99. The truck ran better and my carbon use was reduced by 80%.

  • @TheRivethead
    @TheRivethead6 ай бұрын

    Hey Josh, curious of your on the Edison Motors project, their hybrid truck.

  • @knickebien1966
    @knickebien19667 ай бұрын

    Volvo car company was sold off some time ago, it is not owned by the truck/marine/equipment manufacturer Volvo.

  • @Truthseeker4449
    @Truthseeker44497 ай бұрын

    Personally I think the commercial market is going to go diesel-electric. I'm probably not the first one to say this, but you should go check out Edison Motors. Their first production truck is undergoing testing now. They're targeting the heavy duty vocational market, but I think the idea can be easily scaled to OTR. It basically removes a traditional powertrain (i.e. C15) with a smaller engine running a generator (i.e. C9) to recharge the battery pack, sized to provide enough current to power the truck while cruising and recharging the batteries a little at the same time. The battery pack directly powers electric axles. IIRC, their truck currently weighs the same as a normal heavy haul tractor despite being massively overbuilt for the off-road vocational market and gets to take advantage of an extra 8,000 lbs of payload per law due to the truck being electric despite not weighing more. The concept doesn't care what the generator runs on, it can be any engine of choice. A battery electric truck that carries its own Level 3 Charger.

  • @CIorox_BIeach

    @CIorox_BIeach

    7 ай бұрын

    What Edison is doing is pretty cool, but I doubt most drivers will give up IC drive trains. I , for one, have too much experience with off grid power operations involving generators when solar won't work to know it's gonna be a little bit more of a hassle than it looks like it should be on paper. And a lot of drivers, including the young bucks, aren't in a hurry to give up gear shifts. There's a nice Pete with an automatic 10 speed at work that's usually collecting dust 'cause nobody will drive it unless they're forced.

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    7 ай бұрын

    That weight exemption is for british columbia canada only. I havent heard about any other places giving that type of exemption. I have watched some of their videos and I wouldnt put too much faith in what they are telling you. My opinion is they are full of crap

  • @GT-mn3bx

    @GT-mn3bx

    7 ай бұрын

    Truck doesn't go. Does it start? Yes, runs fine. Mechanic: The parts to fix this is 35,000.

  • @crusiethmaximuss
    @crusiethmaximuss7 ай бұрын

    Best case scenario is hybrid like a diesel locomotive to NOT import emissions, because an all electric can't charge on the fly, and all electric society would clip and short the electric grid and could only be supported by nuclear energy. Once electric batteries expire like any battery does, they're 30K plue to replace.

  • @MrCrabbing
    @MrCrabbing7 ай бұрын

    Volvo have become very popular here in the UK in the fishing industry with there range of marine diesel engines. I guess moving away from diesel cars will reduce particulates in towns and city's.

  • @jaydunbar7538
    @jaydunbar75387 ай бұрын

    Energy density, that’s why diesel wins. A diesel electric hybrid may work like a train, but that has a weight disadvantage so if someone figures out how to lighten up the hybrid system it could potentially be the best of both worlds.

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    7 ай бұрын

    Thats exactly what kenworth told me years ago. I asked them about building a diesel electric truck like a locomotive they said way to heavy cant be done.

  • @derrickodyes1934
    @derrickodyes19347 ай бұрын

    Curious if you would talk about the Edison company and their new truck design

  • @Ajicles
    @Ajicles7 ай бұрын

    You should look at Edison Motors Hybrid Electric Diesel Semi Truck. Pretty cool stuff.

  • @konnorwaldron5609
    @konnorwaldron56097 ай бұрын

    Can you do a review and give us your opinion of the Edison motors Topsy?

  • @DirtMcGert29054
    @DirtMcGert290547 ай бұрын

    The only way I see electric trucks being feasible is for short haul trucks and three battiers for truck , you drive to the next warehouse , swap battiers , and there is always on the charger , basically copy the way the fork lifts work

  • @travis7155
    @travis71557 ай бұрын

    What are your thoughts on Edison Motors diesel-electric truck?

  • @reallythough3998
    @reallythough39987 ай бұрын

    I believe the car segment of Volvo was split from Volvo trucks some time ago

  • @gaetanbolduc8417
    @gaetanbolduc84177 ай бұрын

    Josh your intro is a bit misleading. Volvo Car been sold to Ford several years ago and Ford sold Volvo Car a few years later. For a long time Volvo Car has not share any development with other Volvo branded products. Volvo Group as you said is one of the largest Diesel engine manufacturer. They own many Brands using their engines…for instance Mack, Renault Truck Volvo Truck, Prevost and Volvo buses, and all the construction equipment and Volvo Penta, the marine division.

  • @jamesanderson2176
    @jamesanderson21762 ай бұрын

    Another HUGE problem with electric trucks is the weight of the batteries. Tesla Model X weighs a little over 5000 lbs and its 1200 lb battery will take it about 300 miles. Let's say that scales directly to a semi. The truck is 16x the weight, so its battery would need to be 16x as large to go 300 miles. However, a driver can probably cover 600 miles in a day, so double that again. That battery now weighs 38,400 pounds. Add 25,000 pounds for the tractor and 10,000 for the empty trailer, and your 80,000-pound weight limit now leaves 6,600 pounds for cargo.

  • @obsessedwithcars219
    @obsessedwithcars2197 ай бұрын

    As long as im on the clock when my truck is charging.

  • @josephmichuda6447
    @josephmichuda64477 ай бұрын

    Hey Josh. Check out Edison Motors from British Columbia, Canada. They're putting Caterpillar GenSets on there trucks.

  • @tarungonneea4614
    @tarungonneea46147 ай бұрын

    You should definitely take a look into Edison Motors out in Canada. They’re using Cat gensets to power a diesel hybrid off highway logging truck. They’re really pushing the benefits of hybrid systems instead of immediately going full electric.

  • @hokie9910

    @hokie9910

    7 ай бұрын

    Very interesting! We should have been doing this decades ago.

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    7 ай бұрын

    You should do some research. Learn what a hybrid is. Edison is not hybrid. It is a generator charging batteries that run the drive motor. A hybrid system has the generator able to run the drive motor as well

  • @MackTrucker617
    @MackTrucker6177 ай бұрын

    What will happen to Mack ?

  • @jtotherocker

    @jtotherocker

    7 ай бұрын

    Nothing , still part of Volvo Group.

  • @awesomebarnes

    @awesomebarnes

    7 ай бұрын

    Owned by volvo so probably the same

  • @josefrobbins8781

    @josefrobbins8781

    7 ай бұрын

    They’re gonna give the Bulldog the Old Yeller treatment.

  • @johnchambers1380

    @johnchambers1380

    7 ай бұрын

    Very good question.

  • @cbmech2563

    @cbmech2563

    7 ай бұрын

    You mean a Volvo in a Mack dress?

  • @briantetreault1875
    @briantetreault18757 ай бұрын

    Can you make a video with your thoughts on the Edison Motors truck???

  • @MrPHDtrucker
    @MrPHDtrucker7 ай бұрын

    Josh, have you looked at the Edison Truck?

  • @G-Man-kc2nm
    @G-Man-kc2nm6 ай бұрын

    Great time to start a emergency portable truck charging company. Keep watching the military auctions for a good generator….you will make a fortune especially in the mountain areas. Get good fire insurance! Lol

  • @derrickodyes1934
    @derrickodyes19347 ай бұрын

    Seems companys need to engineer more saftey as far as electrical shorts, runaway battery fires are big issue. Think auto battery disconnects and fire suppression needs to be mandatory before id ever buy one but dince they are already $100,000k id never anyway

  • @mccrackenphillip
    @mccrackenphillip7 ай бұрын

    Actually Dodge & GM had a diesel in 1/2 ton trucks. But everything electric is not bright because there is no way to charge it besides plugging it in & regen braking & 😂 the GMC Hummer EV off-road maybe they should use solar power or alternator to help it along the EV's then I see no problem. 10:04

  • @DavidHarris-qn7em
    @DavidHarris-qn7em7 ай бұрын

    What's your take on Edison trucks?

  • @ivoryjohnson4662
    @ivoryjohnson46627 ай бұрын

    Could see an electric delivery truck in town but over the road not gonna happen

  • @Skusty
    @Skusty7 ай бұрын

    Volvo already sells electric trucks here in Sweden, granted they are mostly used for local and regional haul, they are out there on the roads already and grossing higher than the american 80000lbs.

  • @dadbain
    @dadbain7 ай бұрын

    You should take a look at the Edison hybrid trucks from British Columbia CANADA! The most useless vehicle in most applications is a hydrogen fuel cell, unless you're travelling into outer space.

  • @ericelsberry5585
    @ericelsberry55857 ай бұрын

    Yup, just did a quick internet search and Volvo cars is a completely different company vs Volvo heavy industry.

  • @blackericdenice
    @blackericdenice5 ай бұрын

    2:30 That truck is not a 2500.

  • @aitorbleda8267
    @aitorbleda82677 ай бұрын

    Short hauling will be replaced by electric trucks..it is economic to do it now.. long distance will take years to make economic sense

  • @anthonyhunt561
    @anthonyhunt5617 ай бұрын

    Cat already makes the R1700 underground load in battery power & ultra haul truck have ready been tested. BHP wants battery powered machine by 2030 i think

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