Voldemort’s MASTER PLAN Revealed! | Harry Potter Film Theory

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Today J dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to explain Voldemorts FULL plan for Goblet of Fire and how he planned to win control of the Wizarding World in ONE NIGHT!
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  • @kingpugisthebest
    @kingpugisthebest9 ай бұрын

    Voldemort just really cares about Harry education he did want to be teacher after all

  • @antitheist3206

    @antitheist3206

    9 ай бұрын

    Such a great man, even without a nose

  • @Tyche-Love

    @Tyche-Love

    9 ай бұрын

    😂 honestly if i was a dark wizard and I knew that a baby was born that would one day defeat me I wouldn't try to kill him, I would raise him to be stronger and even more evil than I am and plant a fake prophecy saying that I must be resurrected before he could truly be king. That way I either get brought back or the boy goes crazy trying

  • @TheRealBullyMaguire

    @TheRealBullyMaguire

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@Tyche-LoveMakes sense

  • @PatrickvanStokken

    @PatrickvanStokken

    9 ай бұрын

    Always thought the big man's sense of drama went seriously under the radar, let him cook

  • @darthseverus89

    @darthseverus89

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@Tyche-Lovethis idea is BRILLIANT

  • @rajek333
    @rajek3339 ай бұрын

    I think you're misinterpreting the "can't touch Harry" thing. Voldemort couldn't have touched him, cursed him, killed him, cause the sacrificial protection lingered on with Harry way past Lily's death. If Voldemort used another's blood, then if he tried to kill Harry again, he'd be blasted back into the ghost-like state from the end of Philosopher's Stone. Because why should Lily's sacrifice only work once to save Harry from Voldemort in particular? What would've changed from Halloween '81, that could've allowed Voldemort's curse to hit and work? The whole point of taking Harry's blood into himself was supposed to allow him to finish his quest from 13 years prior, and being able to touch Harry was one of the symptoms of Voldemort sneaking past the sacrificial protection.

  • @deshpandekaivalya

    @deshpandekaivalya

    9 ай бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @merchantboy

    @merchantboy

    9 ай бұрын

    +1

  • @JahanMisra

    @JahanMisra

    9 ай бұрын

    i agree. voldemort touching him was a test to make sure the blood worked before he attempted to kill him again (which he does right after)

  • @bignems314

    @bignems314

    9 ай бұрын

    It turned out Voldy's only win condition was to take someone else's blood then wait for Harry to turn 18 so that his mom's protection wore off

  • @jemma50

    @jemma50

    9 ай бұрын

    @@bignems314 Harry's mother's protection was separate from the spell Dumbledore cast to keep him safe at his aunt's It also involved blood, but it was the blood connection between him and Petunia. That protection is what ended when he turned 17. His mother's protection was much stronger, as it didn't need a spell to work; it was her sacrifice.

  • @J3llyWiggles
    @J3llyWiggles9 ай бұрын

    I Am So Glad That Voldemort Gives Harry A Year To Prepare For His Inevitable Attack, How Kind And Considerate Of Him

  • @kool4209

    @kool4209

    9 ай бұрын

    why is a dark lord, concerned with world domination....... is instead focusing on a middle school.............

  • @easybrom5243

    @easybrom5243

    5 ай бұрын

    @@kool4209because the child of prophecy attends the school maybe

  • @kool4209

    @kool4209

    4 ай бұрын

    @@easybrom5243 prophecy doesn’t happen unless V picks one to be his equal………

  • @erikagholston6610

    @erikagholston6610

    14 күн бұрын

    Voldy is so kind.

  • @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change
    @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change9 ай бұрын

    But for real though, Voldemort is like a parent planning vacations - always make sure the kids' exams are done

  • @MissHollyGolightleyy
    @MissHollyGolightleyy9 ай бұрын

    Did you guys ever notice, that a LOT of Rons predictions (aka divination homework, "mock" predictions in lessons) come true? Harry working for the ministry? Yep. Ron drowning and Harry getting betrayed by someone he trusts? All in fourth year. Ron joking about Tom Riddle getting his award for "taking care" of Myrtle? Yeah.. turns out he DID. The list goes on. Maybe Ron should have taken the class more seriously after all. [Edit: The Tom Riddle-Note]

  • @Sitwayen

    @Sitwayen

    9 ай бұрын

    There is a video on this on this channel.

  • @stigolumpy

    @stigolumpy

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Sitwayen Yep, there is. A lot of the predictions from everyone came true in some form or another.

  • @MissHollyGolightleyy

    @MissHollyGolightleyy

    9 ай бұрын

    Alright then. Time to watch my way through all the old videos again :)

  • @MissJoyce88

    @MissJoyce88

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Sitwayen do you happen to know the title? I went looking and can't find one where the title is obvious (e.g. ron's predictions come true type of title)

  • @PerovNigma

    @PerovNigma

    8 ай бұрын

    @@MissJoyce88 Trelawney's Actually Always Right.

  • @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change
    @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change9 ай бұрын

    This is a really good way to think about writing villains in general. Most of us writers usually start by having a plan for the novel that features the hero's plan but doing a good solid outline of the villain's plan makes the story come to life.

  • @megan14.85

    @megan14.85

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah you've got the know the villain's full plan in detail before the protagonist can spoil the fun otherwise it just wouldn't make sense.

  • @FifthConcerto

    @FifthConcerto

    9 ай бұрын

    I think this especially makes sense if you keep in mind that most villains are the heroes of their own stories. If, in this case, JK worked through Tom Riddle's heroes journey, it would explain why he doesn't feel two dimensional.

  • @Studio732JRL

    @Studio732JRL

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@FifthConcertoHe does feel pretty two dimensional though. He's a narcissistic psychopath.

  • @praharmitra
    @praharmitra9 ай бұрын

    This theory has been discussed before, I’m sure of it. By Ben, I think? At the time, he said that it was Pettigrew who would come back as Harry. He has the best chance to potentially fool Ron and Hermione as he has been monitoring them for the entire time they know each other basically. Voldy would be outside Hogwarts executing his various plans and BCjr and PP would be his eyes and ears inside Hogwarts. Book 6 plan would then become a Book 5 one (He would no longer care about the prophecy since Harry is dead) and Book 6 would be his grand reveal and ministry takeover.

  • @elilitzinger6571

    @elilitzinger6571

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm pretty sure they had this same theory in a video talking about why the portkey in the maze went both ways

  • @samstromberg5593

    @samstromberg5593

    9 ай бұрын

    I like this version better though, I think Voldemort has a much much better chance of fooling them as he's pretty much the world's greatest ligilimens

  • @elilitzinger6571

    @elilitzinger6571

    9 ай бұрын

    @@samstromberg5593 I think it was all the same theory, just used to explain different things

  • @crazysasha1374

    @crazysasha1374

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah I knew this a familiar conversation.

  • @samstromberg5593

    @samstromberg5593

    9 ай бұрын

    @@elilitzinger6571 Admittedly the only thing I can think of is the one listed in the original comment, that in the original they had Wormtail return to Hogwarts instead of Voldemort

  • @robertvasquez4564
    @robertvasquez45649 ай бұрын

    If we're going with the (somewhat inconsistent) movie Polyjuice Potion rules then you have a Voldemort disguised as Harry coming back from the task that still sounds like Voldemort. Just imagine that conversation with Dumbledore.

  • @abraham2172

    @abraham2172

    9 ай бұрын

    He wouldnt really need to talk. He wouldve simply come back and surprise Dumbledore with an Avada Kedavra attack. Then he would expose himself and claim victory over the wizarding world.

  • @Nico-wg5jo

    @Nico-wg5jo

    9 ай бұрын

    I think the movies only did that to remind the audience that crabbe and goyle are harry and ron. I think in reality the polyjuce potion also changes your vocal cords so that you sound exactly like the person you transformed into.

  • @gorudashiro

    @gorudashiro

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@Nico-wg5joExactly: a complete physical change, which is why I don't think that the magic would take into account actual scars or anything that the person had. Only just how they were meant to be physically. But it's all weird, anyway.

  • @samstromberg5593

    @samstromberg5593

    9 ай бұрын

    @@gorudashiro Then explain Barty loosing his leg and eye when turning into Moody? SCB actually does a video on how they think Polyjuice works exactly but the short (and not entirely accurate but again it's shorter) answer is that it does take into account scars and injuries - it's an exact physical copy

  • @simplyskrypt3914

    @simplyskrypt3914

    9 ай бұрын

    @ abraham and nico : yes and yes. Its both 1- voldemort wouldnt need to hide for long, at most a couple hours. All he needs is to get alone with dumbledore and a.k. him without witnesses - not for stealth reasons, just so he can control the pace of the chaos, also using the killing curse in front of hundreds of students, even if 90% of them panic, that still leaves about 100 wands instantly raised against you, throwing expelliarmuses, sectum sempras and petrificus totalus. Hes not dumb enough to risk that 2- the polyjuice potion does change your voice in the books, and performs any other physical changes to match what the person looks like currently (scars, missing body parts, pregnant belly, body fat, etc), so as long as he can keep drinking his disguise would be perfect, except for one thing : voldemort does not express or carry himself anything like harry potter, and i feel like dumbledore would quickly see through it, as he has intimate knowledge of both tom riddle and harry potter. However would it be quick enough that he would realize what is actually happening before its too late? I dont know. Thats up for debate. He would probably realize something is wrong with harry in the first minute, but that might make it worse. Dumbledore might react by immediately trying to isolate the 2 of them for some questioning. Which is exactly what voldemort would want.

  • @kylecollins3755
    @kylecollins37559 ай бұрын

    You guys never seem to run out of Harry Potter material, and I’m here for all of it. Great video!

  • @eomoran

    @eomoran

    9 ай бұрын

    They’ve uploaded this before

  • @GilderoyLockhard

    @GilderoyLockhard

    9 ай бұрын

    That was a good theory^^

  • @samstromberg5593

    @samstromberg5593

    9 ай бұрын

    @@eomoran It wasn't QUITE the same though, there were some (at least one) minor change that I actually like way better in this one

  • @ishanbasu6533

    @ishanbasu6533

    9 ай бұрын

    @@eomoran😊

  • @jayashreechatterjee3172

    @jayashreechatterjee3172

    9 ай бұрын

    Yessss.

  • @survivordave
    @survivordave9 ай бұрын

    I think the ability to touch Harry was not to boost his offensive capability, but to make sure Harry couldn't use the "bum rush Voldemort even without a wand and kill Voldy by burning his face off just by touching him with his bare hands" maneuver like he mortally wounded Quirrelmort with

  • @crimtanecreature8903
    @crimtanecreature89039 ай бұрын

    I've come up with a What If that I think would be very interesting. "What If Harry Potter Was A Squib" I really want to see how you flesh out the story. Would Dumbledore know when he was a baby? Would he tell the Dursleys? Would the Dursleys treat Harry better knowing he wasn't magical? Would Dumbledore still bring Harry to Hogwarts to learn about Magic and teach him to defend himself? Would Harry still have some of Voldemort's powers such as parseltongue? Would Harry still get a wand and would his original wand choose him?(Even though he wouldn't be able to use it). Would it be public knowledge that "The Boy Who Lived" was a squib? Would Harry still be put in Gryffindor? Would Filch be kinder to Harry cause they're both squibs? Would Harry have more Astronomy, Herbology, History of Magic, Care of Magical Creatures, Divination(Maybe?) or Study of Ancient Runes classes instead of classes that involve using magic. Would Harry be taught how to fight without magic like with a sword, using potions or having pet magical creatures? Would Harry still go into the chamber of secrets and save Ginny? Would Harry still runaway from home and call the knight bus or meet Sirius? Would Harry still need to save Sirius from the Dementors? Would Harry still be entered into the tri wizard tournament? Would Voldemort still take Harry's blood and return? Would Harry be able to save himself and Dudley from the dementors? Would Harry still be allowed at Hogwarts when Umbridge becomes Headmistress? Would Dumbledore get Slughorn's memory? Would anything in The Deathly Hallows be the same?

  • @LucasAntarJag

    @LucasAntarJag

    9 ай бұрын

    This is actually not a bad "what if"

  • @OTGGaming0594

    @OTGGaming0594

    9 ай бұрын

    I think he's just super extra. He does believe in the magic of certain acts at certain times like Dumbledore

  • @Ollie.H-2301

    @Ollie.H-2301

    9 ай бұрын

    If Harry is a squib, he doesn't go to Hogwarts.

  • @Martyn_Wolf

    @Martyn_Wolf

    9 ай бұрын

    One sentence to find all the answers to this What If... Squibs can't use magic

  • @f1uffy188

    @f1uffy188

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@Martyn_Wolf No, it doesn't. Sure, Harry wouldn't be able to use magic -- but that doesn't mean the prophecy can't work, and if the prophecy still applies then Dumbledore will want Harry at Hogwarts. So Harry will still go to Hogwarts. The real problem with this What If is that there simply isn't enough stuff we know about the magical world to answer a lot of those questions.

  • @qs2668
    @qs26689 ай бұрын

    The fact that you can say "... the secret chamber under the school - no, not that one" is both hilarious and alarming (it should be at least)

  • @KingRalphBeats
    @KingRalphBeats9 ай бұрын

    3 Theories I wanna see 1:MORE CHOSEN ONE NEVILLE 2:What if Draco And Harry Where BESTIES 3:And I don't know what if the Dursleys where nice to Harry(Would that change the story. (Maybe they will spoil him like they did with Dudley, Maybe he is a bully.)

  • @chickentacosoupgaming
    @chickentacosoupgaming9 ай бұрын

    Hey guys theory idea. In book 5 Dumbledore says he can escape Azkaban but it eould be a waste of time. What's your guys theory on how he would do that?? Love the videos!

  • @Heroshand

    @Heroshand

    9 ай бұрын

    My first guess would just be Fawkes. The anti-apparition charms at hogwarts didn't do anything to stop him after all, and i don't see a reason to think that Azkaban is any more phoenix proof.

  • @lukeroberson2115

    @lukeroberson2115

    9 ай бұрын

    An easy example is that Dumbledore is an incredibly powerful user of wandless magic. So taking his wand would be pointless.

  • @lidular
    @lidular9 ай бұрын

    I'm pretty sure that he took Harry's blood in order to kill him. Lily's protection would still work. If he tried to kill Harry magically the same would happen as the first time. Also if Voldemort did the whole thing earlier and didn't manage to kill Dumbledore ok the same night, it would only be a few days of taking polyjuice.

  • @amyconcepcion7148
    @amyconcepcion71489 ай бұрын

    I really think that “blood of the enemy” meant mortal enemy, prohecized enemy, main downfall enemy.

  • @Gamingtoknow

    @Gamingtoknow

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes i tought the same, its not who think of Voldy as their Enemy but who he sees as his Enemy and that is Harry in this Case.

  • @FifthConcerto

    @FifthConcerto

    9 ай бұрын

    This is certainly how Voldemort seems to interpret the ritual. But he is also always narcissistic in his views of the world. Though much in magic seems to be vague, which either means there are multiple ways of achieving the same magical ends, or just an overwhelming number of ways to fail at any given magical endeavor. The latter seems more likely for something like a potion though. Afterall, stirring the wrong number of times, or in the wrong direction can ruin your whole potion. And I thought baking was finicky; potions are the worst.

  • @13vatra

    @13vatra

    9 ай бұрын

    I disagree, because of how specific that is. Is there an existing ritual in world to bring someone back from death using the blood of a prophesied enemy? Has this situation actually come up before? If not did Peter make the ritual? I don't think he'd have the magical prowess to manage that, Crouch was busy with other things and Voldemort wasn't physically able to spellcraft at the time. Personally I think it's much more likely that the ritual works with anyone considered an enemy.

  • @XeiDaMoKaFE
    @XeiDaMoKaFE9 ай бұрын

    nah bro i need a whole @SCB series where voldy kills harry and pretends to be him from hp4 to hp7 then hp comes back in the end somehow, since dumby is avoiding harry to avoid voldy it would be convenient and funny

  • @XeiDaMoKaFE

    @XeiDaMoKaFE

    9 ай бұрын

    i just thought about snape , it doesn't work 😭 but sure i believes the could fool everyone else

  • @PerovNigma
    @PerovNigma9 ай бұрын

    *Video idea:* What if Hagrid was sent to Azkaban after the FIRST time the Chamber of Secrets was opened?

  • @Xynth22
    @Xynth229 ай бұрын

    Hasn't this theory been done before? I swear you guys have talked about the reason the portkey goes back to Hogwarts was because it was a part of the plan to have a fake Harry return after he killed him. Or do I have Deja Vu? Edit: It wasn't Deja Vu. Ben did the episode 5 years ago called "Harry Potter Theory: Voldemort’s FULL Tri-Wizard Cup Plan!"

  • @ghartman56

    @ghartman56

    9 ай бұрын

    I was wondering this too. It seemed like a re-upload I had seen before.

  • @annasmith5616

    @annasmith5616

    9 ай бұрын

    Same here.... I thought I am having Deja Vu 😅

  • @thevoidismyhome7242
    @thevoidismyhome72429 ай бұрын

    I read a fic (2:05 ) that explained that the ritual Voldyshorts was using required the blood of his enemy forcibly taken after 9 months of extreme stress/danger. So basically, Harry had to be in the tournament, or he wouldn't have been stressed enough for the ritual.

  • @thevoidismyhome7242

    @thevoidismyhome7242

    9 ай бұрын

    The fanfic also added that the ritual required everything to be steeped in the amniotic fluid of a pregnant lady. so you have mother, father, and then a few bonus things just for you. The ritual is meant to be a rebirth, so it mirroring the actual pregnancy process makes sense.

  • @mirusama7045

    @mirusama7045

    9 ай бұрын

    @@thevoidismyhome7242 do you remember the title? that fic sounds interesting, i'd read it

  • @MarioSMG64
    @MarioSMG649 ай бұрын

    Any SCB video about someone's "master plan" is always top tier

  • @rys315
    @rys3159 ай бұрын

    This would explain Barty Crouch Jrs. Conversation with him. Its possible when he asked “what was he like?” and “were there others in the graveyard?”, he actually thinks its another death eater in disguise. Only when Harry responds does he then realize that the real Harry Potter returned.

  • @hicat808

    @hicat808

    8 ай бұрын

    I thought that only happened in the movies? It's super weird in the movies, because in those he's already been meeting with Voldemort for a while already. In the books the time between his escape, recovery, replacement pf Mad-Eye all happen really quickly. Like it feels like only a week or less, where Arthur Weasley mentions having to help Mad-Eye (assuming that's when it happened) and then they start school right away.

  • @joeykopinski
    @joeykopinski9 ай бұрын

    I thought it was more likely that Voldemort wanted it to look like Harry simply died in the maze. He and his followers would know that Voldemort did it, and aside from Dumbledore, the rest of the wizarding world would believe that Harry simply died in the maze.

  • @d.j._holman

    @d.j._holman

    8 ай бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing...Usually the most simple reasoning is the most accurate one, and you see this in how the Daily Prophet attributed Cedric's death to a terrible accident during the tournament. It would have been covered the same way, allowing Voldy to gain power in the shadows.

  • @johnhostetler2167

    @johnhostetler2167

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah he could of even blamed it on Krum, Barty still had him under the Imprius curse and Barty could of made Krum say that he got caught up in the moment and wanted to win so badly that without thinking he used the killing curse on Harry just as Harry was grabbing the cup

  • @NEC_Shades
    @NEC_Shades9 ай бұрын

    I always interpreted "i can touch you now" as 'i can harm you now', as referencing the ancient sacrificial magic that Lilly used. I believe that until Harry became an adult, he was protected from any lethal harm due to this his mothers' sacrifice. Meaning there wasn't anyone who could possibly kill or even attempt to kill Harry without triggering the protective magic in form of help, burning to a crisp, or any random event, the spell is a certain plot armor to save the day. With Harry's blood, he believed the spell would refuse to act, which was Voldemort's plan all along. He didn't just want to be the one who killed Harry for his reputation, he could have easily challenged and kill anyone who did the deed for him, but he knew he'd be the only one who would be capable of doing so. As for the polyjuice to get back to Hogwarts, i doubt it. There is no way Dumbledore wouldn't realise it the second he saw Voldemort impersonating Harry, especially with the heads up he got from Snape. Then on top of that there is the issue of what wand to use. We know from the Deadly Hallows that the elder wand refused Voldemort but accepted Harry, so wands CAN distinguish between their users even if the same blood is present. Meaning Harry's (very loyal) wand would most likely refuse Voldemort (i doubt the twin core means they can use eachothers wands). And without Harry's wand, there would not be fooling anyone, especially when he returns from the maze with not only a different wand, but a wand from a registered death-eater. Given the significance of Voldemort's terror, i would imagine those wands in particular are infamous among the entire wizarding community and raising all alarm bells.

  • @Saltharion
    @Saltharion9 ай бұрын

    While the idea of Voldy wanting to pose as Harry is interesting, and probably true, you seem to forget that on that fateful night when he fell the first time, he probably did not try to touch Harry, the spell still bounced. So if he did not get Harry's blood, Lillys protection might well have protected him from Avada Kedavra again. We (and Voldemort) cannot be certain that he could kill Harry if he does not use Harry's blood to return. just my 2 cents

  • @iimax_9135
    @iimax_91359 ай бұрын

    Live Kahoot quiz when?

  • @hufflepom
    @hufflepom9 ай бұрын

    If the whole thing was meant to be a one night thing, why not have “ Moody” call Harry to his office for tea, to share a book like with Neville or whatever way earlier in the year and make the teacup or something a Portkey? Voldemort comes back way sooner.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado34309 ай бұрын

    Hey guys! Been feeling under the weather lately and this new vid, along with binging your other amazing content has gotten me back in my feet! Thanks! You're all Truly awesome!

  • @qBeYcarpet
    @qBeYcarpet9 ай бұрын

    As a huge fan of the dumbledore's big plan I'm very excited to watch this one

  • @hamdialihassan1048
    @hamdialihassan10489 ай бұрын

    This is such a good one! I have ALWAYS wondered why his plan was so insane

  • @SlimGod2662
    @SlimGod26629 ай бұрын

    Also the resurrection thing Voldemort was using asked for “Blood of enemy forcibly taken” so easily they could’ve done that at any point of the year and since Voldemort didn’t want anyone know he’s back, Harry not knowing helps quite a lot

  • @HungerGames_PJO
    @HungerGames_PJO9 ай бұрын

    Voldemort really cares about harrys education, 2 of bros death eaters taught him his signature spell (snape)and was arguably the best DADA teacher during harrys time at hogwarts(barty jr/mad eye)

  • @ChibiCuna
    @ChibiCuna9 ай бұрын

    I always thought Polyjuice potion would need a living host. Wasn't that the reason why Barty kept Moody alive (and also to keep fresh hair available for his next drink)

  • @JohnDoe-zw8vx

    @JohnDoe-zw8vx

    9 ай бұрын

    I was looking for this comment because Voldemort would only be able to pose as Harry for the time limit and then would be in a tough position of getting out of Hogwarts undetected 😂

  • @untitled6391

    @untitled6391

    9 ай бұрын

    This one is an open question, though I lean more towards it not being the case. I think the reason Moody was kept alive was because they needed Barty Jr. to pose as him for an extended period of time and they couldn't risk running out of hair (or any other body part).

  • @deyanatanassov8834
    @deyanatanassov88349 ай бұрын

    Bros ive been watching your theories for years now and I swear this one is the most plausible one I’ve heard. I hope hbo’s approached you guys about the hp series ayyy. Xx

  • @user-wl9bj3wg8v
    @user-wl9bj3wg8v9 ай бұрын

    I love watching your videos. How you go into SO MUCH DETAIL. I absolutely an amazed. Hope you all have a magical day.😁

  • @ThroughTheLensOfAutism
    @ThroughTheLensOfAutism9 ай бұрын

    The first time I read Goblet of Fire I thought there must have been an easier way to get Harry. I knew from the start of the tournament that they wanted to capture Harry alive.

  • @SafiyyahMoosa
    @SafiyyahMoosa9 ай бұрын

    I paused watching a J vs Ben video now to watch this new video. Your HP videos are my place of comfort 😊

  • @tylerpaschall4363
    @tylerpaschall43639 ай бұрын

    I think the only reason it took all year was because the potion needed to brew. It seems like the more complicated the potion, the longer it takes to make (polyjuice potion takes a month and Felix Felices takes six), and this was one Voldemort invented himself and was designed to bring back someone from ghost form. I still believe that the plan in the book was overly complicated. With Barty Crouch Jr. as a teacher, all that he would need to do is ask Harry to come to his office, ask him to pass over a book on the desk, and poof. The same results as the trophy. Even if Voldemort didn't know how close Harry and Dumbledore were, he could have used Barty Jr. to bring volderharry to Dumbledore's office on some made up pretext. So the access would have been the same, you would arguably have more privacy in nearly every step to pull it off, and there are fewer things that could go wrong. So I would argue that the real reason the plan took so long is because the potion needed to brew, and having Harry in the games at best provided a nice distraction for Harry and Dumbledore to keep them from looking too closely at Barty Jr.'s different behavior from the real Mad Eye, or from potentially discovering Wormtail brewing the potion.

  • @richardtabor8686
    @richardtabor86869 ай бұрын

    had no idea i needed this in my life today. ty!!!

  • @KarlEmmanuel
    @KarlEmmanuel9 ай бұрын

    If Voldemort could transform into the dead Harry with the polyjuice potion, Crouch Jr wouldn't have needed to keep Moody alive the whole year.

  • @Lazarou101
    @Lazarou1019 ай бұрын

    You ever get the feeling that sometimes SCB are looking deep into the lore and interpreting the text as intended, and sometimes they're just writing the story themselves to fill in plot holes? This is the 2nd one.

  • @Giantsfanlewis

    @Giantsfanlewis

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah this was definitely not a good take. It's not that hard to understand that "being able to touch harry" was a way to explain that he now could kill him, and not just touch him. These guys are smart enough to know that so this was more just a fanfic

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado34309 ай бұрын

    Amazing video as always guys! Your videos always make my days! 🔥🔥🔥🫡🫡🫡❤️❤️

  • @JustinKutch
    @JustinKutch9 ай бұрын

    Also also, actually actually - there must have been a small contingent of Death Eaters still hoping Harry would fill the role of Dark Lord. So Voldemort becoming Harry could have doubled as a ploy to find these "traitors" or else to help unite the two sides of his followers.

  • @jimikrackorn
    @jimikrackorn9 ай бұрын

    It's crazy how quickly I click the bros videos 😂 thanks for a perfect way to end the day

  • @jameskirk4692
    @jameskirk46929 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video! Great topic of discussion. Thanks for clarifying the details.

  • @13KuriMaster
    @13KuriMaster9 ай бұрын

    Lets not forget that Lilly's protection already protected Harry from Voldemort's magic before (kinda how Voldy died in the first place) so if he tried to personally kill Harry without being able to bypass the protection and "touch" him, there's a good chance it would have failed again. Taking Harry's blood was probably necessary to magicaly kill him as well as physically touch him.

  • @lillipup_tamer1148
    @lillipup_tamer11489 ай бұрын

    I really related to the better help ad as someone who has realized having ice in my freezer so I can have ice water at night is very important to my mental health

  • @ulisesvazquez6394
    @ulisesvazquez63949 ай бұрын

    I am so exited to see my notifications updating me that there is a new video❤❤❤ I recently started watching the hannel and I have almost gone to all od your guys videos ❤😅😅

  • @Xarestrill
    @Xarestrill9 ай бұрын

    I think one thing you didn't consider is how polyjuice potions work. They take a month to brew and last an hour (I looked at the wiki to double check, and the wiki says it lasts 10 minutes to 12 hours depending how well it's brewed, but I swear the book just said it lasts an hour) and the part added has to come from someone still alive. So even if he had the potion all ready and just needed to add something from Harry to finish it, it's going to last for a limited time if he killed Harry.

  • @trinkab
    @trinkab9 ай бұрын

    The better Harry seems the more credit people will give to old Moldywort for killing him. He's not a "kid" age 14, he's a Tri-Wizard Champion, powerful and smart! A force to be reckoned with!

  • @Foxfire-xq5ij
    @Foxfire-xq5ij8 ай бұрын

    Your continued videos on Harry Potter theories feeds the hole in my soul thank you and don’t ever change.

  • @LyleFrancisDelp
    @LyleFrancisDelp9 ай бұрын

    I've been this exact point for years. Moody/Crouch just had to grab Harry's arm in Hogsmeade and disapparate to the graveyard. Mission accomplished.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado34309 ай бұрын

    Love your videos guys! They always make my day!❤❤❤😊😊😊😊

  • @KoboldDrones
    @KoboldDrones9 ай бұрын

    Would love to see yall do the inheritance cycle theory or stuff around it

  • @garrettrussell7281
    @garrettrussell72819 ай бұрын

    I enjoy these theory’s and all your Harry Potter things.

  • @little-wytch
    @little-wytch9 ай бұрын

    Interesting theory. I like it. I always thought that the time for the ritual to take place was important and that Harry needed to be stressed and in mortal peril for the months leading up to the ritual for it to be its most potent.

  • @n0msg4u
    @n0msg4u9 ай бұрын

    Expanding further, if crouch didn't or couldn't risk straight up kidnapping Harry earlier in the year... He could have just used a different portkey to get him to the graveyard at any point. "Here you go class, here's your homework." Or, "Hey Potter, hand me that pen."

  • @KaiMoya420
    @KaiMoya4209 ай бұрын

    Have you done a video on if Lily and James hadn’t been betrayed by Peter and not been killed by Voldemort that night, would he still have been successful later on or would the Order and Dumbledore defeated him back then?

  • @chefseano11
    @chefseano119 ай бұрын

    This intro and all its punchlines had me laughing like a fool in my car on my commute. Thank you J. Made my hour go by happily

  • @xarenanotmyrealname4134
    @xarenanotmyrealname41344 ай бұрын

    That would be a fun what if, what if Harry was quick enough to think of just offering his blood in this part like what would Voldie do?

  • @TailwagAnimation
    @TailwagAnimation9 ай бұрын

    3:52 is a lot reminds me of that one you did where Cedric wants to give his blood.

  • @franblemer7262
    @franblemer72629 ай бұрын

    Love it! You always make harry potter better!

  • @Bad_Llama
    @Bad_Llama8 ай бұрын

    Very good interpretation. I had always wondered why the portkey to the graveyard worked both ways. Excellent work. Please keep up the good work as it’s highly entertaining.

  • @chloehemmerich9703
    @chloehemmerich97039 ай бұрын

    OMGOODNESS I REMEMBER READING THIS POST ON TUMBLR AGES AGO!!!

  • @chsbob9
    @chsbob99 ай бұрын

    I love your vids and weekly binge the quiz videos. There is another series I would love to see you cover. It's about another wizard named Harry, is rife with lore and theories, and is a darn good read. The Dresden Files is a fun series I think ya'll would like. (If you are going audiobook only, Marsters reads the first two books, and then narrates the rest)

  • @honeybadgertheshield8157
    @honeybadgertheshield81579 ай бұрын

    I still prefer your original theory of Voldemort’s plan during the goblet of fire that has Peter come back as Harry instead of Voldemort himself but I could also see this being his plan too.

  • @ruili5386
    @ruili53869 ай бұрын

    The thumbnail is AWESOME!

  • @PumpiPie
    @PumpiPie9 ай бұрын

    Cant thay please make a TV series about Voldemort orgin story??? So mutch thay can go into. And so mutch action it can bring :D

  • @Sertifi
    @Sertifi9 ай бұрын

    No idea when y'all started, but it's impressive how you find the simplest of concepts of interest in the series and make a video out of it. I read the first books 20 years ago.

  • @gorudashiro
    @gorudashiro9 ай бұрын

    Another thing you forgot to add is that one of the reasons that Voldemort needed Harry's blood for the resurrection was that the charm didn't protect Harry just from Voldemort's touch, it also protected him from his magic. So if he'd have tried to use magic against Harry without using his blood in the resurrection, it would have ended the same way it began, with the spell backfiring and reducing Voldemort to a shadow, and possibly killing several of his death eaters in the process. Recall the way the Potter's house was destroyed.

  • @Nathan-yd7xd
    @Nathan-yd7xd9 ай бұрын

    If you Keep inserting the voldi laugh into every video I WILL need therapy 😂

  • @talonarayan
    @talonarayan9 ай бұрын

    Can I get that "whoopsie" @4:25 into a year end 2023 Carlin brothers compilation.

  • @PumpkinSpikey
    @PumpkinSpikey9 ай бұрын

    I just realized that it probably would have been easy for Hermine to completely erase herself from her parents' memories because as you just pointed out she almost doesn't ever spend vacation time with her parents. However I'm positive that setting up a new life for them was harder part. She's obviously incredibly talented so it probably wouldn't challenge her. She leaves for school when she's 11 and she comes home a few times a year for weeks at a time. Cake walk. I'm sure the photos are much less exciting without her in them. Even more then they showed in the movie.

  • @mainakbiswas2584
    @mainakbiswas25847 ай бұрын

    excellent excellent - now that is clear. so many layers man! never thought about it❤

  • @pirateteaparty717
    @pirateteaparty7179 ай бұрын

    I swear this almost exact scrip was said in a different video. One about what if Cedric touches the cup first or something. Either way, great video as always.

  • @velho6298
    @velho62989 ай бұрын

    Lupin was preoccupied for sure

  • @asheyoclm1127
    @asheyoclm11279 ай бұрын

    I would love to read an AU story of Voldemort masquerading as Harry

  • @IISHUSHII
    @IISHUSHII9 ай бұрын

    you should do a what if voldemort/quirell got the stone before hagrid in the first book. that would change a lot.

  • @meliskoolies
    @meliskoolies9 ай бұрын

    "are my allergies acting up? No its just Voldemort" i want that and other seasonal jokes about Voldy attacking 😂

  • @mortenesbjoern2028
    @mortenesbjoern20286 ай бұрын

    I just finished the second HP movie, and it has been a while since I read the books, but I began wondering whether a good video could be "How many times did Voldemort ruin his own plan". Because in the Chamber of secrets, he mentions how much grief a little book can cause which Harry then realizes, ah destroy the book. And it got me thinking if he hadn't written the message about Ginny's corpse will never be found, then Harry and Ron might not have looked for the Chamber at that exact moment. And as HP experts, I was wondering if you had found other times where if he just kept his mouth shut or stopped gloating whether his plan would have worked. Certainly the graveyard scene would also be very different.

  • @siddhantchauhan1975
    @siddhantchauhan19759 ай бұрын

    My interpretation of touch him is ‘lay a finger on him’ which implies harming him in any way. Also the reason I think they chose to wait the whole year is because portkeys are ministry regulated so they should be pretty traceable as u have to register them. Meaning that cup was a portkey to take the victor back to the start of yhe maze but crouch jr just added to it.

  • @Leo_Dragontamer
    @Leo_Dragontamer8 ай бұрын

    It has been a long time since I watched a supercharging brothers video It feels like home.

  • @RuyLopezTheSicilian
    @RuyLopezTheSicilian9 ай бұрын

    Merlin's beard, stop blowing my mind so early in the morning

  • @SilkBuckets
    @SilkBuckets9 ай бұрын

    "whoopsie" J I see u watching those pitch meetings!!!

  • @drparadox7833
    @drparadox78337 ай бұрын

    One of the possible explanations for Goblet Plot can be DADA Curse. Barty Crouch WAS DADA teacher so curse contrived events so their plan pan out exactly like that so Crouch is outed, Kissed and out of the DADA Professor seat.

  • @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change
    @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change9 ай бұрын

    While this is a compelling theory, I do prefer your older theory where you explained why the fake Harry would actually be Wormtail. Not only is Wormtail well versed in the everything Gryffindor, he has also spent 3 whole years in the castle with Harry and friends and therefore has a very good understanding of their dynamics, as well as Harry's own idiosyncrasies, which Voldy wouldn't be as good at. Besides, Voldy would have had Barty keeping tabs on fake Harry without exposing himself to the risk of being in Dumbledore's immediate vicinity (given that DD has alwayd suspects him even when he was student). Most importantly, he already has Snape on the inside (according to him) and also with fake Moody, he is essentially risking a lot more by being in the castle.

  • @Fl4ttt
    @Fl4ttt9 ай бұрын

    Have y’all posted this before? I feel like I remember one of your videos with this theory.

  • @SC-dm1ct
    @SC-dm1ct9 ай бұрын

    Best reasoning I've seen was that the tournament was part of the ritual. Completion of a hero's journey, a gauntlet, ending in summoning his greatest enemy back.

  • @HannahEvansOfficial
    @HannahEvansOfficial9 ай бұрын

    Love your videos

  • @cuhstuba00
    @cuhstuba009 ай бұрын

    4:26 “Whoopsie!” Someone has been watching Pitch Meeting!

  • @Robcobes
    @Robcobes9 ай бұрын

    Cedric's death already messed with the "return in secret" part to be fair.

  • @willharnick4867
    @willharnick48679 ай бұрын

    You guys should be covering Ahsoka!!!

  • @Robcobes
    @Robcobes9 ай бұрын

    If Voldemort would disguise himself as Harry upon coming back, then he wouldn't have needed the maze assingment at all and he could have done it at any moment. Also, the moment Harry's name came out of the Goblet of Fire Dumbledore knew that whatever was happening, Voldemort would be behind it. He would never take Harry's death in the maze at face value.

  • @stacybrott7503
    @stacybrott75039 ай бұрын

    Is there a trivia stream this month?

  • @neonjinn
    @neonjinn9 ай бұрын

    I feel like I've seen this theory before, possibly on this channel; cause I remembered hearing about the 'become Harry to get close to Dumbledore' idea bout halfway through the video....

  • @WarmouC
    @WarmouC9 ай бұрын

    Btw do the Ministry some how control the "stream of magic" etc. If they can notice minorage magic (yea yea not who makes it not the point) or during DH jinx the name.

  • @RaindropsBleeding
    @RaindropsBleeding6 ай бұрын

    Oh. I got really excited there for a minute. I thought you were finally going to mention why he would use blood instead of hair for the poly juice potion

  • @travishayslip9409
    @travishayslip94099 ай бұрын

    Did you guys already make a video on this? I feel like I've already watched this

  • @obiwanpez
    @obiwanpez9 ай бұрын

    "Why was the plan so convoluted?" "Plot device, Mr. Frodo, plot device!"

  • @benrutter1746
    @benrutter17469 ай бұрын

    Wouldnt it take a while to make the polyjuice potion ?

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