Finally got mine today in Singapore 🇸🇬! Love it so much, I have the TTArtisa 0.95, the Noctilux 0.95, they all different, the voigtlander has its own character! I will have a lot of fun with this lens 👍🏻

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Congrats!!

@robbieaguilar23

2 жыл бұрын

Where were you able to get one Max? Riceball?

very good review Bobby. love the honesty on shooting with a range finder. great to see some familiar faces on your sample shots as well!

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Bobby's flow has flair and attitude to go with knowledge of cameras and lenses. Such a cool dude :)

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

I am a fan of M-mount fast 50's, so I hope to test this one out! I miss my visits to Singapore, looks great as ever, cheers Bobby!

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Yes this lens is one to test for sure

I'm glad they made this lens, but I'm the person in your final thoughts who prefers to shoot stopped down and will be sticking with my 50 APO for now. Thanks for the review!

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Completely understand, 50 APO is an awesome lens. Thanks for watching.

I enjoy your breakdowns and smaples, keep up mate!

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! Much appreciated

Great review! I have the Leica M mount and couldn’t be more happy with it. A $400 buy at an estate sale didn’t hurt.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Wow congrats!

Did you leave the other channel? Anways, happy to support you here too. Lovely reviews, keep them coming! I have no doubts that you'll get this channel growing quick! All the best from Scotland!

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Kevin thanks for watching. Left Tech360 but still with Geek Culture. Wanted to kick off my own channel on gear that I’m also interested in that doesn’t necessarily fit with Geek Cultures audience. Yeah looking forward to growing the channel here but will take some time

That was very informative Bobby! My eyes have been on this new lens for quite a while now. From your separate videos I would say the F1 wide open is a little more corrected optically than your own F1.2? I seriously consider this as a low light king for my analog M’s, but guess I need to calibrate the rangefinder pretty darn accurate beforehand lol.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Yes more corrected than the 1.2 I feel and yes may need some calibration with the rangefinder. Just depends really but this happens with M Mount lenses at times

I took the Nokton RF mount instead. And due to being very satisfied the little 40 1.2 Nokton joined as the new companion as well.

@btonelli

5 ай бұрын

Awesome. Congrats

Bobby I waited 9 months for this lens, finally got it today!!!

@btonelli

Жыл бұрын

Wow!! That’s a long wait!

@Photojouralist123

Жыл бұрын

@@btonelli ya 8 months! I hope it’s worth it

Thanks!

@btonelli

6 ай бұрын

Wow John thank you so much for this 🙏🙏🙏🙏

Have this lens for 4 month now (use it on M11) and it really has that special look. I love it ✨👌🏼

@btonelli

Жыл бұрын

Congrats! Yes it does

Very nice video, as always. From your experience, does it have enough character like, for example, the 50mm Noctilux ?

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yes it does. It’s very similar to the 50 f1 but sharper

Quite a few of the M mount Voigtlanders have had black finishing on the bayonet besides the 50mm F1 like 90 F2.8 and Heliar 50 F1.5. Hopefully it becomes a habit for Voigtlander.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Yes seems they are changing this. Hope it continues

As David says below : I think 'grounded asphere' is a mis-translation by Voigtlander. My understanding is that they make some asphere elements by precision moulding of glass, while others are made by CNC diamond grinding followed by CNC polishing, which can ultimately be more accurate, but also more expensive. Also the moulding process has some limits to the range of glass types that can be used. I was looking at their current catalogue in the last few days - it's very impressive ( I am a lens designer myself, been doing it for 33 years ! )

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark for this. Makes sense and based on your knowledge and expertise, this will be how I explain it in the future. Thanks for watching and commenting

@blubberflutsch

3 ай бұрын

On their product page it is called "Grinding Aspherical", so it should be grinded.

Can't wait for the RF mount version. They already confirmed that in addition to focus peaking the actual focus guide will work. That's a pretty big upside on a manual focus lens.

@btonelli

11 ай бұрын

Yes but not sure why it’s not out yet

This looks like just my sort of lens having good bokeh. I enjoy manual focus because it slows me down and I feel much more involved in the shooting process. It also increases my satisfaction with the final outcome. I have a Nikon Z7 and have just ordered a used Nikon Z 50mm f1.8 autofocus lens because experts show is crackingly sharp right to the edges and has great bokeh too. It has a large manual focus ring so I intend to use it only in manual focus. If by chance it doesn’t live up to my expectations a Voightlander 50 f1.2 will be on my shopping list as the bokeh of both lenses stopped are strikingly similar but the f1.2 is half the price 40% less weight and its depth of field stopped down not so paper thin. Thanks for the video.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! The beauty of all these lenses is discovering them and how they make our images even more special

@maxwolf2718

Жыл бұрын

So which lens did you end up liking most if I may ask? I have the 1.2 and I am debating the 1.0 right now.

The big question, especially for those of us who already own one , is how it compares to the Noctilux F0.95. Comparing Voigtlander’s modern aspherical lens with an antique spherical design from the 1970s (almost 50 years ago) does not tell us what we need to know: would you sell your Noctilux F 0.95 and buy this lens instead?

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Good question. Didn’t have a .95 to compare it to for the review but from what I’ve seen I think both are prob more comparable to each other vs the Noct f1 where the Voigtlander is sharper. Would I sell a 50 Noct for this? That depends entirely on how one takes to third party lenses. First, the .95 is a lens that’s been out for a number of years and never updated, so it makes sense lens manufacturers can replicate or best the performance with today’s manufacturing techniques. Also Some users want Leica only glass and that’s it, others are more open to exploring and aren’t so brand conscious. Difficult to say one way or the other

Not a lens for me but a very impressive piece of engineering from CV. This company is flying. Bring out a rangefinder body please!

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Understand and agree. Would be nice for them to bring out another camera

Bobby, what adapter do you use this lens with Canon R5 ? Thanks for your review!

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. It worked really well! Resolves the 45MP sensor nicely and has some character to it

i am 100% with you about those bloody chrome rings！！

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Yep hopefully they don’t return 😊

Are you off the 360 channel? I stopped watching it since you stopped making videos! Just subscribed.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Yes left last year. Now here and Geek Culture doing videos

@Eliehbk

2 жыл бұрын

@@btonelli then I am no longer interested in 360!

I really like the rendition of this lens. Especially @8:00 I must admit that I prefer the image from the Voigtländer to the Leica!

@btonelli

Жыл бұрын

Yes it performs well!

Tough call as I’m selling my SL2S for an M11/M10R I just can’t pull the trigger! Question, 50mm RF 1.2 or this what are you shooting on the R5?

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly 50 1.2 RF. Autofocus, sharper at f1.2 for the Canon

What are your thoughts on it comparing to Voigtlander Nokton 50 1.2

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Optically I feel it’s better.

Nice review, i was looking for a lens like this for my Sony Alpha 7rV , but the 50 f2 Apo Lanthar is good too, which one gives you a better Leica look ? I mean the colors ..

@btonelli

Жыл бұрын

APO lenses tend to give a more modern rendering. They are fantastic lenses but at the point of their almost perfect look, you would be better to go with a Sony 50 1.2 GM or 1.4GM. The leica look is that 3D pop with beautiful bokeh and fall off. That comes a lot from the older Mandler design lenses. The 50 f1 to me gives you a good combination of modern yet unique rendering especially wide open

@Mauroplcr

Жыл бұрын

@@btonelli Thanks for the answer, it's true but the 50 f1 is just impossible to find, I live in Switzerland and there are nowhere to try them. I just bought a Sony Alpha 7 RV with a 24-70 2.8 GM II. It's great but a little heavy, I would like a lens for everyday use, but since I had Leica before I try to twick the colors of the camera a little to try to obtain the "colors Leica" but it's hard :-). That's why I thought that the optics from Voigtlander, especially the Apo Lanthar, the 35 or the 50 could help... But the 50 1.2 Sony GM or the 1.4 is still expensive...

Overall it looks like a no-brainer - but at 07:41, the bokeh balls of the Noctilux 50/1.0 show, what it is loved for...

I am going to try to adapt it to my gfx100s and canon r5

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Think you will enjoy the images coming from it.

You’re like… the JJ Reddick of camera reviewers

@btonelli

Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks 😊

Great review with nice samples. Although this lens is M Mount it’s was really design more for adapted use. On mirrorless it’s great on M camera it’s a pain in terms of viewing and focusing.

@btonelli

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Yes definitely designed for mirrorless

How does it perform when focusing on long distances at maximum aperture? I’m considering between this Voigtlander and Sony 50mm 1.2 GM (I have an autofocus adapter so AF is not a problem).

@btonelli

Жыл бұрын

If you are going to be using AF then go for the 50 GM. Your hit rate will be much higher

A little bit pricey for me but looking to get the 40mm f1.2 for the Nikon Z mount.

@btonelli

8 ай бұрын

Also a good lens 👍

I actually liked the chrome nose lenses because my cameras and most of my lenses have silver on them. A shame, hope they come up with alternatives like the 58mm or 28mm SL II lenses

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps they will come up with those focal lengths in time to come.

@tamilhoward9708

Жыл бұрын

I had nothing against the silver chrome noses either. I thought it was sharp.

Do you have any experience with the Fujifilm 50mm f1? How does this compare to that? I know the sensor size is different, but it would still be fun to see a comparison.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Eirik, Yes I do have experience with that lens. The Voigtländer is slightly different. The Bokeh and look of the fujifilm is more like 75mm 1.4 and it’s more corrected wide open. Less green and purple fringing. The Voigtländer bokeh is more intense but also more CA wide open.

@just_eirik

2 жыл бұрын

@@btonelli aha I see! Thanks for the comparison :)

@jliang70

2 жыл бұрын

I probably go for the apo 50mm, this lens does have that nice voigtlander character, nice, rich and well saturated color. I may use the price difference between the two 50s for the 35mm f1.2 iii.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

@@jliang70 yes the 50 APO does have some nice colors coming from it

Like to see a 25mm version for m4/3 users

@btonelli

Жыл бұрын

Not sure there would be enough risers though to warrant the manufacturing.

A ground aspherical element s more accurate than a cheaper moulded one. Smooth internal glass structure and a more accurate external shape. So Voigtlander-Cosina is correct in that. Leica Noctilux has the same thing.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated

Have you tried adapt this lens to Sony? How does it work with Sony manual focus? Thanks.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Did try it briefly. Focusing is pretty accurate.

@thanyawong

2 жыл бұрын

@@btonelli But you do prefer to use with R5, don't you?

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

@@thanyawong due to high refresh rate on EVF and to me the focus peaking is more accurate

I'm one of the photographers that dislike the bokeh in the image corners. Therefore I think the Nokton 50mm f1.2 has the better image quality and is an overall better lens than the Nokton f1. Unfortunately it does not seem to be available for Nikon Z mount (yet?) - especially because it's also a lot more affordable than the 50mm f1.

@btonelli

9 ай бұрын

Understand your viewpoint and perhaps when they or if they come out with a version 2 of the 50mm f1.2 we may see something for the Z mount. Let’s see what happens

At this moment that title will likely go to the APO-Lanthar 50mm. Which I’m still waiting for.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Also a good choice.

@calvinchann1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@btonelli could I ask which adaptor you used for the R5?

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

@@calvinchann1996 K&F Concept

what lens are you comparing the Voightlander to? you did not mention that in the photo of yourself.

@btonelli

6 ай бұрын

Ah yes that was the Leica Noctilux 50mm f1 version 4 I believe

try it on the GFX.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

I did. Tough to nail focus on it. When I magnify image in the EVF isn’t as clear as the R5

@phillipenriquez

2 жыл бұрын

@@btonelli did it cover the sensor?

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

There is vignetting so will need to crop to 35mm mode

@phillipenriquez

2 жыл бұрын

@@btonelli thanks

have you ever considered a radio job with your radio voice?

@btonelli

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. I used to do radio here in Singapore for a number of years but unfortunately our market is small and the remuneration of radio personalities isn’t what it is in other countries

@jamesgjurovich7893

6 ай бұрын

@@btonelli I knew it, what country are you from?

@btonelli

6 ай бұрын

@@jamesgjurovich7893 I’m American but based in Singapore

How does it compare to other Leica noctilux

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

It’s better than the F1 Noctiluxes. As far as the .95 I would say slightly sharper but very similar

@absonus

2 жыл бұрын

@@btonelli This has been very useful for me.I`ve been looking a fast fifty . I`ve used a summicron for 20 years . Bodies are M`s ,CL and an sl2s. Can`t really justify the .95 (I`m just a happy snapper). This seems very much worth a look .Thanks .

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

@@absonus hi Michael thanks for watching. Yes this is a very good alternative and at a more reasonable price point

Dude, I throw the box in the closet and never use a bag. Save me a few bucks and don’t change a thing, Cosina!

@btonelli

5 ай бұрын

Haha true but always good to have a pouch at least

Just too bad about most review videos now that 95% of the video is looking at the guy making the videos rather than looking at the actual lens itself. In the “build quality” portion of example; the section is about 2 minutes and we see the lens a total of about 10 seconds or so from a far. The rest is looking at you talking into a microphone. It’s the same with all the videos. Most of it is you and not the thing you’re talking about. You can save time getting pretty for the videos and just show us the gear. Anyway. The king of 50s for me is a 50f2. It is small. It is light. It has enough separation. They are excellent at f8 and even f11, and now with digital you can literally shoot in any light. A lens that is huge and heavy will just stay in the closet. I have a better chance taking a good photo with a light and small 50mm that can stay on my camera rather than in my closet. For some reason people are obsessed with f1 and f0.95 lenses. But the fact is they are very niche special use lenses. The best most practical lens is the f2. If you really need more light, the tiny f1.5 Nokton is more than most people will ever need.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the reply. To the point of it’s mainly me on camera, well my videos are based on my opinion and experience. Some will just show product shot after product shot but after a while that also gets boring. Everyone has their preference in video and that’s the great thing about KZread. In regards to the 50 f2 I agree with you and also prefer this size and aperture. F1 for me is nice but I won’t use it that much.

1:26 ... A pouch would be good for storage, but I don't like it when companies over do the packaging. Too much waste.

@btonelli

Жыл бұрын

Yes a pouch would be ideal

we need more bokeh. not enough bokeh.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Haha okay 😉😊

Why do people keep talking about bokeh in modern, well-corrected lenses? There's almost no bokeh there. There's blur. The last ultra-bright 50 for Leicas that had actual bokeh was the Noctilux 50/1.0, then they went and ruined it completely for the sake of having the record-breaking f/0.95. It's sharper, better corrected, but lost the last bit of bokeh it had and only has clinical blur with no character. Waiting for Voigtlander to make a "Classic" version of this with 6 elements and a traditional double-gauss design with some actual character.

@btonelli

9 ай бұрын

Interesting theory. When I was testing this lens I found the bokeh to be similar to the f1 but a bit more corrected. Less green rings around the light sources etc etc.

Hmm this is an unfair comparison of the Noctilux 0.95. I shoot it primarily on the SL2-S or the M10R and I get much better sharpness than the samples you show. I personally found that M lenses perform better on Leica bodies than my Sony FF bodies. You should redo this video and comparison on a M or SL bodies

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Hi. I was comparing it to the Noctilux f1 not .95. I think you misunderstood the video

@FarEastSurvival

2 жыл бұрын

@@btonelli Ahh.. my apologies. I'll delete this comment after you see my reply

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

@@FarEastSurvival no prob. All good 👍

Packaging means exactly nothing to me! There isn’t a thing to cry about with the packaging.

@btonelli

Жыл бұрын

Hmm when you purchase a lens from a company like LLL and others then you will see what I’m talking about

So, we found you here know? I don't want to be subscribed to "dead" channels....Thanks

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

All good. Yes I’m here and Geek Culture :) thanks for the subscription!

The only benefit of the leather pouch will be to breed fungus. No thanks. I am glad Voigtlaender doesn't make us pay for one.

@btonelli

9 ай бұрын

Well I disagree. If that’s the case leica users would have lots of complaints and even smaller companies like Light Lens Lab would also be similar

@yxx_chris_xxy

9 ай бұрын

@@btonelli Well, plenty of info on environments conducive to lense fungus out there, and leather is just ideal, but feel free to ignore it. It is your video and your comments section after all.

@btonelli

9 ай бұрын

@@yxx_chris_xxy I live in a hot and humid climate year round so used to mold and fungus. These leather cases are treated and inside are usually foam or another material to protect the lens. Anyways all good, we have our opinions and no one is right or wrong. Just our thoughts.

You have to wonder when the opening statements is rushing you to buy. I call bullshit.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

I have no skin in this game, I’m just relating what I’ve been told about allocation. It’s not about making everyone run out and buy anything, and as I clearly stated at the end of the video, this lens isn’t for everyone and gave reasons why one should consider or not.

@ofeykalakar1

Жыл бұрын

@@btonelli a good reason is the long wait for this special lens, probably due to the hand grinding and hand polishing of the front aspherical element.

@btonelli

Жыл бұрын

@@ofeykalakar1 true. It definitely takes some time with this lens

Sorry, for non-native English speaking persons, you speak much too fast.

@btonelli

2 жыл бұрын

Ok apologies for that. Will slow it down for the next vid

@holgermenzel2506

2 жыл бұрын

@@btonelli thank you!

@UncleMichaelable

Жыл бұрын

You can slow down the play back speed.

Thanks!

@btonelli

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!!