This is sending alarm bells ringing. VOTE NO

@peterr6739

Жыл бұрын

I'm voting YES!

@jarradbaker8200

Жыл бұрын

@@peterr6739 well your a moron

@matmann3956

Жыл бұрын

@@peterr6739 I’m a kiwi and I’m voting no. Apartheid has done so much damage back home in nz

@domenica5714

Жыл бұрын

​@Peter If a yes vote gets through it will be restricting First People to the decisions made by representatives of the voice for ever regardless of their independent wishes.

@janicemacaulay7255

Жыл бұрын

@Peter I'm a Kiwi & I agree our country is not the harmonious country I grew up in thanks to racial disharmony occurring today. Why, because of greed & power of activists & Socialists representing & stirring up the Minority 17 % of the population

Don’t vote for apartheid. All Australians should have equal rights and equal access to representation, regardless of their race.

@wuper2270

Жыл бұрын

Please learn what apartheid means. The voice doesn't change representation at all, it's an advisory body. There's a dental health advisory body, does that mean dentist have different representation to other Australians? No! Please learn to use your head rather than your emotions.

@jfkfitirjdjjsisieirirjfjdj5967

Жыл бұрын

well that’s what the voice will do supposedly,it should bring us original peoples up to par with everyone else,sky is doing their usual fear and smear campaign of something that will help my peoples,the billionaires of this country would never ever give us original peoples the power that sky is guessing on, and Rita,original activists only ever said truthful history and we are still waiting for justice,I would like to get payment for the 30+ years my grandparents worked for no wages,that’s wrong,if it was any other ethnicities they would’ve been compensated for that,why is it us original peoples can’t even get that

@Voodoo4209

Жыл бұрын

@@jfkfitirjdjjsisieirirjfjdj5967 Your not even Aboriginal. 😂

@pwillis1589

Жыл бұрын

Personally I think Wuper is being to kind. I have read repeated comments like this one and I’m tending to think they are deliberately mischievous and Roger here knows exactly what apartheid is and is being intentionally deceitful.

@lokai7914

Жыл бұрын

@@wuper2270 The Voice is racist. It would give a subset of people, based on their race, additional rights - specifically, representation to government - that are denied to the rest of Australians. Comparing such racism to apartheid is an entirely valid comparison.

This will be the biggest con job since the jab.

@whiskeygamer9402

Жыл бұрын

Agree Sir 👍🏾

@ZELJKO472

Жыл бұрын

Will be the biggest rort since pink batts. Who stood behind Albo when announcing the wording of the voice referendum?- the Aboriginal aristocracy and their imposters who have failed for over 50 years. Will be gold for waste and making a select few rich

@paddynelson3586

Жыл бұрын

Yup.

@JIMDEZWAV

Жыл бұрын

I F YOU DON'T VOTE FOR THE VOICE YOU ARE WACIST ! 😡😡😭😭

@mister_63

Жыл бұрын

The jab con was only the beginning and "the exercise" for all governments around the world to check how far they can push people and how much compliant people will become. Unfortunately a vast majority accepted all "scientific facts" presented by governments and "medical authorities" and were not brave enough to stand up and say "NO, enough is enough". I was hoping that this Voice referendum could become a turning and a wake up point for Australians, but unfortunately I'm afraid that it's to little to late to change a mentality of majority of Australian people for whom all mass media "information" is taken as a gospel. I really want to be wrong and still hope that NO vote will succeed.

This is appalling - an absolute overturning of the fundamental principles of our democracy! It is astounding that this whole proposal ever got to the stage of being seriously considered. The Prime Minister and his government should be thrown out for gross incompetence and treason against the Australian nation.

@timrohds750

Жыл бұрын

Albo is trying to be the big man and get in to the history books! He will but for all the wrong reasons,he is the village idiot!

@user-dw3dw3fk4t

Жыл бұрын

They have been thrown out ... That's why we have a new prime Minister who is doing a great job

@Bruce15485

Жыл бұрын

Agree ! Higher cost of living, higher interest rates, increasing crippling power prices, increased government spending etc, A Prime Minister who is economically ignorant and only wishes to talk about co-governance of Australia through a 'voice'. Never the less he will blame it on everyone else !!

@janicemacaulay7255

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-dw3dw3fk4twhat planet are you on, must be different to what I'm on, this country is being run by an idiot

@Bruce15485

Жыл бұрын

@Runaway Puppet Very nice ! and prior to the 9 years, was 6 years of the most turbulent and extremely incompetent government, that governments after that are still fixing to this day !

Even Warren Mundine is against this, he is an Aboriginal, he said this will not help the people in the NT at all, he believes that it should not be in the Constitution at all. Voting NO.

@ronniexx9743

Жыл бұрын

Notice all the 1's pushing this are white aboriginal, none of them are full blood. This is all about money and power. !!!

@karenvecsei4217

Жыл бұрын

Rawolle, sounds NZ. Warren Mundine should have stated this in 2019 not 2023. In the last thirty years, ten years of LIBERAL leadership, Fifty thousand Immigrants, Boat People, Diseases, Violent Crimes, Fraud, Drugs,Mercy Murders, Welfare Payments, Home Loans, Set Up Government Loans

@celestial-on-high251

Жыл бұрын

And Senator Jacinta Price is campaigning against the Voice. Look at her Fair Australia campaign. Aboriginal people in remote areas have said nobody consulted with them about the Voice and have mo idea what's going on. It's a safe option for people to tick NO rather than listen to this corrupt Labor government and a bunch of thugs like that Thomas Mayo.

It's a NO from me

@wuper2270

Жыл бұрын

To getting up and going to work tomorrow? We know whiskey, you don't have to remind us.

@takethat941

Жыл бұрын

@@wuper2270 Why cant you respect the NO from this person?

@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado

Жыл бұрын

No means no

@mickden3155

Жыл бұрын

@@takethat941 Because he is a smart ass that's why.

@whiskeygamer9402

Жыл бұрын

​@@takethat941A lot of the Young Dumb Generation are Voting their Futures down the drain. Lol

Vote No to Albanese’s apartheid.

Vote NO to apartheid

Vote No

It's all a trojan horse. Whatever the wording don't be fooled. Vote NO.

VOTE NO.... I just don't trust Labor and the Greens.

@johngeier8692

Жыл бұрын

The greens are to the left of the CCP.

@patrickjohnson8741

11 ай бұрын

Why does the Electorate keep voting the LABOR CLOWNS IN ????? Who is stupid ?????

And this is what Albo was crying fake tears over. Sure.

@jemzargo

Жыл бұрын

Crying is good if you have no actual reasonable arguments to support your position which Albo does not.

@pamrawolle2919

Жыл бұрын

Allegedly Albo and his crocodile tears 😂🤣😂🤣 Voting NO, NO, NO!

@JIMDEZWAV

Жыл бұрын

I F YOU DON'T VOTE FOR THE VOICE YOU ARE WACIST ! 😡😡😭😭

@infidel202

Жыл бұрын

​@@JIMDEZWAV wabit season duck season

@JIMDEZWAV

Жыл бұрын

@@infidel202 THAT'S WHAT I SAID 😡😡😭😭😭😭😭😭

SAY NO TO APARTHEID ALBO!!!

@johngeier8692

Жыл бұрын

The Primed Monster Mr Grogon, Goffy Whitless, Hacksaw Hawke, Honest Johnny, Krudd, Red Witch, Mad Monk, Turdball , Scomo and now Apartheid Albo.

In the end it will cost average Australians a new tax and make no difference to places like Alice Springs.

@karenvecsei4217

Жыл бұрын

Mining is Booming in WA on Aboriginal Land. Keep paying the Electricity that it uses

It will always be a NO from me and many others. $30 + billion per year given to them directly or not is enough. If they can't get out of poverty or live healthy then you need to ask the question.

@johnschannel449

Жыл бұрын

most the the $30 billion goes to the city bases aborginal activist not those in the bush that need the money, theres alot of corruption going on

NO! For decades we have been ridding our institutions of racism, yet the voice will enshrine racism into our constitution! Bestowing benefit to one race is by definition, racist. Labor's the voice is ill-conceived and dividing Australia. Unite as one people, one nation, one flag.

Vote NO

It is the death of the Australian parliament and parliamentary government and democracy in Australia

Only a fool would vote Yes on Albo's track recored as a PM so far he cannot be trusted and he has shown that already it's a NO NO

@user-dw3dw3fk4t

Жыл бұрын

I voted Labor 🫢

@Fortnite87463

Жыл бұрын

I am a fool then

@SelfishSonMusic

Жыл бұрын

could you please elaborate on how he can't be trusted?

@ch33psk8

Жыл бұрын

Is voter integrity even real

@donaldjones8881

Жыл бұрын

Albo seems to be under the spell of linds Burnie he is spell bound by the Canberra elites.you never see him amixing with every day people.only on the election trail.its like it's below his dignety

The voice is treachery!

Albo's croc tears are logie class, voice is just a gravy train cash grab for the few elitists in the cities

Thank you Chris for your expert commentary and honest answers to many of the questions i had. If you layer the 'power' of the Voice with a CCP style Social Credit system and a digital currency, which is currently on trial in Ukraine i believe. Then we cease to remain a democracy and we loose our entitlements as citizens, and the freedom we enjoy as individuals.

@trg9765

Жыл бұрын

I guest it's a NO FROM YOU THEN. 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 MMMEEEE TTTOOO NO NO NO NO NO NO

I have worked bloody hard all my life to pay extremely high taxes only to have it spent on absolute shit. I think I will become unemployed and identify as an aboriginal person. How much income can I generate from this and should I also identify as lgbtqi&@:;?? to gain some advantage as well ?

@kellysouter4381

Жыл бұрын

Trans has the most privilege at the moment.

@trg9765

Жыл бұрын

If this HIDEOUSLY RACIST VOICE GETS UP THE ONLY WAY TO COUNTER IT IS. "ALL" AUSTRALIANS IDENTIFY AS INDIGENOUS. THAT WILL "PHUCKEM" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@homchahom4159

Жыл бұрын

@@kellysouter4381 Thank you for that information. I guess I will identify as a black transgender from now on. Or can I identify as a black transgender millionaire? My bank account says otherwise but can’t I indentify as anything I want?

@Bruce15485

Жыл бұрын

All we need to do is have 25mil Australian identify as Aboriginal !

@janicemacaulay7255

Жыл бұрын

Crazy stuff

The Voice means preferential treatment for Aboriginals making everyone else second class citizens.

@paddlesmcbean2366

Жыл бұрын

It is pure racism.

Distraction.

that’s a five million reasons to say yes from me but i don’t even want it so it’s a NO!

Vote no Australia

@whiskeygamer9402

Жыл бұрын

Definitely 👍🏽

@mickden3155

Жыл бұрын

@@whiskeygamer9402 👍

It’s a con.

@johngeier8692

Жыл бұрын

It is delusional insanity and very destructive.

We were told by our teachers at school from way back - ALWAYS VOTE NO IN A REFERENDUM. they said our forefathers that wrote the Constitution were honourable men but today’s politicians are not honourable men

What does the NIAA not do that the 'Voice' will be able to do so? I would suggest 'nil'.

@sabejreid2072

Жыл бұрын

Agree and watching Sky news recently - I see that the NIAA get 4bn at least per year to make changes and improvements - but they don't do what is needed. Aboriginals and Torres Straight Islanders already have so much more help than many of us hardworking Australians. Vote No.

@kirkc4696

Жыл бұрын

I think the Voice is the opportunity for Aboriginal elites to form another ATSIC type group, in which they cannot be sacked as they were when John Howard wound up ATSIC and put them out of a job.

@chuckmaddison2924

Жыл бұрын

The voice will provide a few more jobs for the Aboriginals.

I still have the memory of two little black kids playing in a sandpit over the road from us - a five-year old, and a three-year old, prattling to each other. Their entire vocabulary consisted of "fu#k you" endlessly repeated - the only words they had ever learned. Now I see why!

@johngeier8692

Жыл бұрын

Did you give them an IQ test??

@jettstream2886

Жыл бұрын

I hear white school kids saying the same thing on a daily basis you disgusting pos

There wasn’t a single tear lol, it was worse acting than an episode of home and away. 🤣🤣🤣

@infidel202

Жыл бұрын

And that is bad acting, really bad acting

@tony-bi1hj

Жыл бұрын

Eh. Settle down.Nothing wrong with home and away😮

@infidel202

Жыл бұрын

@@tony-bi1hj surely you jest

@tony-bi1hj

Жыл бұрын

@@infidel202 no home and away is like a religion. Wouldn't miss it.😉

@infidel202

Жыл бұрын

@@tony-bi1hj poor sad thing, move to Mt Druit and all your dreams will come true, bankstown is a close 2nd but you will find your life's desires

Once in, the advice will soon become instruction, then the instruction will become law.

@pwillis1589

Жыл бұрын

That’s a classic slippery slope argument and a logical fallacy, making you entire comment illogical nonsense.

@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado

Жыл бұрын

And their powers with the new laws may make a unelected dictatorship.

@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado

Жыл бұрын

@@pwillis1589 show me the laws parliament will adopt in response to this.

@pwillis1589

Жыл бұрын

Look up the meaning of “representation” in a dictionary. A constitutionally enshrined advisory body would by definition unable to instruct anything. You don’t quite understand how words work do you?

@pwillis1589

Жыл бұрын

@@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado That is a nonsensical question. Do you mean legislation the government will bring to the parliament to enact a voice if there is a yes vote? If so the government has declared this publicly, read it for yourself.

!!!!VOTE NO TO APARTHIED!!!

VOTE NO

We have ministers departments who are tasked with taking care of Indigenous needs. Calling for a voice to parliament is admitting failure of existing departments. This voice idea will fail as all previous schemes have. Jostling for a spot at the Trough have already started and mark my words, the Indigenous people on the ground will not be among them.

Airbus Albo is the worst creature in this country, on par with Dan

'The Voice' will inevitably open the dam walls on a plethora of Native Title claims which will result in every property owner in Australia having to pay rent. It means every Australian home owner and landlord will pay an extra tax (rent tax). They say we are on stolen land and therefore you are 'renters' a sign of goodwill to pay extra tax. It will depend on the value of your home. If you have say a 1.5 million house in Sydney you will probably pay .5 to 1% rent tax meaning >5 to 10k per year. Landlords will simply increase rent for tenants to cover the cost.

@mickden3155

Жыл бұрын

This is what people don't realise if they vote yes ,They will be paying for it forever .the whole thing is a free money grab

@Henry1965ism

Жыл бұрын

I said a similar thing years ago. With all their claims of 'sacred aboriginal lands" they will eventually say that you home is built on such land and you have to open your wallet and pay up.

@pamrawolle2919

Жыл бұрын

Agree with you, allegedly as well the Aboriginal’s would get two votes and you will get one vote! Rumours are already the Aboriginal’s are planning on wanting NO enter tests for University and NO Fees, 10% all job appointments for high positions go to Aborigines and other jobs, so say 10% Judges ! Will there be really 10% qualified candidates who really would deserve the position’s, with higher qualifications?? Earlier age pensions, as they believe they died younger?? Allegedly you could be paying more for Water, land, going to the beaches if you are not an Aboriginal you pay to visit the beach? They can bring in all of these Law changes over the years to come if they want too. Once it’s in the Constitution it cannot be remove, do not listen to Albo with his crocodile tears! 😂😂😂 Vote NO, not to be put in the Constitution! No, NO, NO!

@JIMDEZWAV

Жыл бұрын

I F YOU DON'T VOTE FOR THE VOICE YOU ARE WACIST ! 😡😡😭😭

@Bruce15485

Жыл бұрын

@@JIMDEZWAV Each time you disagree, you will be called Wacist !!

How many of the 24 are full blood elders. My guess is... None?

@pwillis1589

Жыл бұрын

And what if any relevance does that have?

@wuper2270

Жыл бұрын

Your guess is wrong, there's even a bloodline quota to be on the voice. Nice try though dick head.

@___________________121

Жыл бұрын

Elders can speak their true voice. English is not their first language.

@pwillis1589

Жыл бұрын

@@___________________121 As I thought no relevant at all. Thankyou for your response.

@tomjones5338

Жыл бұрын

​@@pwillis1589 he was saying how many of the families are full blooded not half cast quarter cast so forth in other words are pure blood lines or mix bloodlines

An excellent talk explaining some of the finer points. My only criticism, when on watched this on TV this morning, is that Rowan kept interjecting half way through the experts explanations and concerns. FFS Rowan, let the expert talk, we've heard your thoughts on the matter a thousand times before.

So how did South Australia pass it without a referendum?

@Bruce15485

Жыл бұрын

Act of bill passing through SA Parliament. My understanding is that Albanese will try to do the same if the "Voice" referendum fails. Difference is it can be undone by future SA governments.

@sibellakingston52

Жыл бұрын

@@Bruce15485 Yep, thought so. I think Albanese knows he might not get the referendum win he's expecting.

@noelasandstrom9761

Жыл бұрын

Didn't know it had. I'm shocked as that's so anti-democratic. May as well move to a communist country

Put the First Nations People, acknowledgement in the preamble of the Constitution. Don't alter the Constitution, which represents ALL Australians. !!

@kirkc4696

Жыл бұрын

That would work.

@kellysouter4381

Жыл бұрын

Where's my acknowledgement? I was born here, I'm Australian too.

@Henry1965ism

Жыл бұрын

The whole idea of 'First Nations People' is garbage. There was no nation when the first settlers arrived. There was no form of government. Just a bunch of aboriginal tribes that feuded with each other.

The Prime Minister plainly misunderstands the legal impact of his proposed wording … Anthony Albanese misled parliament - and the people - when he said parliament would retain primacy over how the voice operated and what it considered. … [Professor George William] said: “That’s the point of putting things in the Constitution, it puts them beyond the parliament.” … Please Australians... do your due diligence before you vote. This will indeed divide Australia as a whole.

Legal reality vs. emotion - right on Chris !

The Voice is 100% Apartheid, there is no disguising a system based on race

We need to know more about the NIAA (National Indigenous Australians Agency) Haven't they been providing a voice to Government for Indigenous people? What is the NIAA involvement in putting forward the referendum? *AND* most of all, what has the NIAA been doing to alleviate the disastrous conditions in Alice Springs/remote Indigenous Settlements?

@lancelot0007

Жыл бұрын

Bloody excellent questions there. But unfortunately, we will never n ear the response from them.

@andrewcorrell5000

Жыл бұрын

There were some "idiots" who left paperworks at a coffee shop which outlined 11 points of what they wants from Voice! They are basically racists who demanded that these so called natives extra rights

@annviolet4727

Жыл бұрын

@@lancelot0007 No response from the NIAA or Albanese. Just treating the rest of us like bloody mushrooms - in the dark and fed BS!

@janicemacaulay7255

Жыл бұрын

Yes where is the accountability as to where the 32 billion $ given to indigenous affairs been spent. No improvement seen In the NT aboriginal way of life or their contribution to society, more domestic violence, suicides, unemployment, crime, poor education. Rural towns turning into swatter camps with no respect for their so called land. Another voice for what, more money wasted not wisely spent. Maybe we need a Royal Commission into how these agencies really work.

@annviolet4727

Жыл бұрын

@@janicemacaulay7255 Sure seems to be, 'too many chiefs and not enough Indians,' when it comes to the administration of Indigenous affairs.

When you look at the Charter of the (unelected) NIAA it is exactly what the Voice is supposed to do. They have a huge budget aready but I doubt any of it goes to the needy people in the regions. It is probably just Indigenous elites filling their own pockets. ATSIC mark 2. Audit and fix the NIAA and forget the Voice. Needless duplication just so Elbow (Mr 29.8% of the primary vote) gets a Legacy. Another (of many) con jobs being foistered on the Australian people. All for 3% of the population who already wastfully have $30 billion chucked at them every year. Do not go down the path of NZ and their disastrous co governance.

@janicemacaulay7255

Жыл бұрын

Peter Cunningham. From an ex New Zealandander I couldn't have said it better. I'm disappointed as to what our country is today. All for 17 % of the population.

Pauline Hanson is my Voice!

🚩Red flag🚩 Vote NO!

Vote NO to this voice it’s not just what Albo is saying Check out New Zealand which Albo has based this on The division in NZ now is huge Wounded why the PM quit

no

Let's examine the unsuccessful NZ system ! It's an absolute mess !!

Let’s see how things go down in South Australia.

I think the Aboriginals are being very selfish asking for this Voice.

@whiskeygamer9402

Жыл бұрын

They are being Conned and Used

@rapscallion9333

Жыл бұрын

It's not "the aboriginals" It's a select few elite bureaucrats, and will make no difference to indigenous communities.

@johnwoodrow8769

Жыл бұрын

@@rapscallion9333 Beat me to it, your comment is exactly what I was going to say. And the 'elites' who will be The Voice can all be seen standing behind Albanese during his 'tearful' address. I have as much aboriginality in me, and are as just as much in touch with aboriginal people in remote communities, as 99% of that group.

@kirkc4696

Жыл бұрын

It's the elites of the Aboriginal Industry who are pushing it. Most aboriginal people have better and other things to do, and to think about, than this, just like the rest of us.

@kellysouter4381

Жыл бұрын

Many of them don't want it.

Peter Dutton must oppose this on principle, forget the details they're not forthcoming....oppose it on principle !

@ana.y

Жыл бұрын

Peter Dutton has lost his voice he has been very submissive and has lost his path for what liberal democracy stands for

@robertnicholson1409

Жыл бұрын

@@ana.y if you're right the Liberal Party is finished, kaput, toast however you want to put it.

@ana.y

Жыл бұрын

@Robert Nicholson honestly the voting list we had in NSW was enough to wonder what happened, the liberal candidate in the area I voted from couldn't speak English properly 🙄 he was put there as a token who represented the majority of an ethnic group. There was no choice Chris Minns was the only decent candidate and the local MP as well. I don't trust Albo anymore than I trusted Scomo but have hope in Chris Minns. He went to the same school as my sons and I don't see him different to the values of Perrottet.

@robertnicholson1409

Жыл бұрын

@@ana.y I'm not from NSW but I did spend 12 months there years ago in the Ingleburn infantry centre when I was in the Army. To me Sydney was an exciting place . Look, the Liberals are in trouble that's obvious but as far as NSW Labor are concerned it's the corruption, remember Edie Obeid and McDonald, when they were last in Government they were shockers. Now maybe this new guy will be different, we'll have to wait and see.

NO NO NO NO NO 😊

VOTE NO!!! If the NIAA can't give the Aboriginals a better life with $4.5 billion What is the Voice going to do? More entitlement? Special status? Job and Education preference? Give these radicals on the committee a say in the spending of $4.5 Billion and see what changes they make before we turn over our country to them.

VOTE NO ,,and also VOTE ALNANEAZY OUT !!!

And how did Australians respond? They voted for Labor in NSW ... that'll show em!!

Yes Albo, you can stand there and sell Australia down the drain, but I will not accept Australia being run down like Kenya.

VOTE NO!!!

C MERRITT...SPOT ON, LET THE PEOPLE LEARN THE TRUTH, SIMPLY CLARIFY.....

NO NO NO NO

I feel it's less about politics but more about common sense. The constitution is there for all of us, not a special interest group of 3%. Local Gov tried the same trick not that long ago. Didn't succeed. This won't either.

who came up with the idea of the VOice in the first place, was it aborigninal people themselves or white woke academics and a handful of city based aboriginal activists? lots of people will get rich off this but none of the aborigines living out in the bush in poverty will benefit or see any money

@theresafitzsimmons142

Жыл бұрын

Whity. Theres. A. Surprise. 😮

Ah! but will sanity prevail?

@ch33psk8

Жыл бұрын

Ah! but will voting integrity prevail?

@johngeier8692

Жыл бұрын

The voice of delusional insanity permeates the current government. The Climate Delusion, the Energy Transition Delusion, the Nuclear Power is Unsafe Delusion, the Aboriginal Nation Delusion and the Noble Savage Delusion are all colluded with.

Distraction

How do you find a sacred abo site? You find a gold mine

Im voting no. I’ve seen the damage this has done back home on New Zealand

@millymurray9324

Жыл бұрын

Here in nz we are going down hill so fast its mind blowing. The place is turning into Maori land. Language, place names and apartheid like mentality is running amok. Its disgusting and disturbing. Yesterday there was a Maori concert with Maori singers, broadcasting, for fundraising for Maori people affected by the cyclone. I was horrified. I am going to leave this country as I hate what is happening to it.

@matmann3956

Жыл бұрын

@@millymurray9324 💯!! My little sisters young child didn’t want to participate in the cuppa haka and my sister got a text from his teacher that was racially charged asking her their views on Maori culture!! It’s apartheid 💯!

@matmann3956

Жыл бұрын

@@millymurray9324 best thing I ever did was leave Nz. It’s a hell hole

@millymurray9324

Жыл бұрын

@@matmann3956 exactly. Everything is about bloody Maoris. Blessings and prayers in Maori before anything happens these days. Its horrendous. Can't wait to leave. White flight now from nz taking place. Very sad

@matmann3956

Жыл бұрын

@@millymurray9324 yup. I noticed it about 10 years ago when I would visit family. I would arrive at the airport and would think I was arriving in some unknown land with Maori stuff everywhere and if you dare comment you’re a “racist”. But hey, the only way socialist and commys can win is by dividing the nation. Mohammed Ardern was good at that

No ! No ! No ! NoAlbo !!!!!!!!

Absolutely NO, Albo what are you doing to this beautiful country 😢

Everyone that I know is voting no! The federal government should pay more attention to it's job, and that job is to serve the Australian people, and not follow what other countries are doing,

How do we get the truth about the voice on MSM the whole of Australia needs to hear this not just Sky News followers 😢

ULURU STATEMENT FROM THE HEART:- Speaking about sovereignty in the 3rd paragraph. "It has never been ceded or extinguished, and co-exists with the sovereignty of the Crown". The 5th paragraph:- With substantive constitutional change and structural reform, we believe this ancient sovereignty can shine through as a fuller expression of Australia’s nationhood. The issue of a constitutional inclusion of the voice goes to the heart of sovereignty. South Australia just announced the legislative changes for the voice. That is a gov body to be established and can be extinguished if South Australia rescinds the legislation. This is no more or less than an act of Parliament and has no effect on sovereignty. The referendum goes to sovereignty… Voting NO is becoming an obligation. Just vote NO

@ClaireOgle-tl9kg

Жыл бұрын

Well said although still wonder about effect on SA other Australians

@Ed_Downunder

Жыл бұрын

@@ClaireOgle-tl9kg Hi Claire, I am very pleased to respond to intelligent questions. I have three lists for you. The first list is South Australia and the second list is National. If you get to the end, there is a third list. You are very welcome to copy and share the information. It puts a spotlight on the failure, no attempt here to look for the good, the point is they were aboriginal voices that were not heard above the political noise. The Voice at state level or National level will be more of the same. The only difference is the National level will enshrine the Voice into the Constitution. Let's ask a serious question, I pose the question for others to determine for themselves. "What would have happened to Australia if any one of the following 10 bodies was enshrined into the constitution." South Australian Aboriginal Bodies:- 1. Adelaide Aboriginal Legal Rights Movement (ALRM) (1990-2014): Founded in 1990, the ALRM provided legal aid services and representation to Indigenous people in South Australia. It closed down in 2014 due to financial difficulties and lack of resources. 2. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission (ATSIC) (1990-2005): Established in 1990, ATSIC was a national body representing the interests of Indigenous Australians. It was abolished in 2005 due to government concerns about its mismanagement and lack of accountability. 3. Aboriginal Legal Rights Movement (SA) (1990-2010): Founded in 1990, ALRM (SA) provided legal advice and representation to Indigenous people in South Australia. It closed down in 2010 due to increasing financial difficulties and lack of resources. 4. Aboriginal Inland Mission (AIM) (1990-2013): Founded in 1990, AIM provided educational and social services to Aboriginal people in South Australia. It closed down in 2013 due to a lack of support and funding. 5. Aboriginal Health Council of South Australia (1990-2012): Founded in 1990, the Health Council provided support and assistance to Aboriginal people in South Australia. It closed down in 2012 due to a lack of government funding and resources. National Aboriginal Bodies:- 1. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission (ATSIC) - Established in 1990, ATSIC was the first government body to represent the interests of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. It was abolished in 2005 due to allegations of financial mismanagement and lack of transparency. 2. National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health Council (NATSIHC) - Founded in 1989, NATSIHC was intended to improve the health and wellbeing of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. It was abolished in 2003 due to poor performance and lack of accountability. 3. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Education Council (ATSIEAC) - Established in 1993, ATSIEAC was responsible for improving the educational outcomes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander students. It was disbanded in 2004 after its effectiveness was questioned. 4. National Indigenous Council (NIC) - Established in 2004, the NIC was set up to provide advice to the government on Indigenous issues. It was abolished in 2007 due to a lack of progress and failure to meet its objectives. 5. National Congress of Australia’s First Peoples (NCAFP) - Founded in 2010, the NCAFP was intended to be a voice for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. It was disbanded in 2017 due to controversy surrounding its leadership and lack of progress. The above organisations have start dates and closing down dates. The list does not include the current Aboriginal bodies that are in effect today. I counted approximately 50 bodies. As a conclusion, it is apparent that what has happened with these bodies is over simplified just to make the point. There is no single point of contact to begin to address these issues. Aboriginal people are represented in every echelon of society, from the political elite to the most marginalised. The solution to this is being touted as a Voice in the Constitution. Many thousand of words is emotionally pleaded for the constitutional change. Is that logical, is that sensible and is that reasonable? Australia is a society, it is not homogenous, it is heterogeneous:- that means composed of parts or elements of different kinds, qualities, or origins. Promoting separateness on race will do harm. The solution is not easy but could easily be led my Aboriginal and non Aboriginal people. I have another list of objectives that work for a civil society that is more than jingoism. 1. Increase Social Interaction: Encourage members of different groups to interact with each other in social settings such as schools, workplaces, and community events. This type of interaction will help foster understanding and mutual respect between different groups. 2. Celebrate Diversity: Celebrate the distinct cultural, religious, and ethnic backgrounds of different groups. Showing appreciation for diversity can help build bridges between different groups and create a more unified society. 3. Promote Equality: Promote a culture of equality by advocating for equal rights, opportunities, and access to resources for all members of society. 4. Encourage Dialogue: Encourage dialogue between different groups to help foster understanding and cooperation. This can be done through meetings, seminars, and other events that bring together different groups. 5. Support Local Organisations: Support local organisations that promote unity and understanding between different groups. These organisations can provide resources and guidance to help bridge the gap between different groups. Simplistic - YES. But it is the right place to start. I will vote no, The voice is not a solution I can see.

@ClaireOgle-tl9kg

Жыл бұрын

@Ed_Downunder Thanks Ed your information makes so much sense & I will be voting NO. I believe there is already an organisation the NIAA which should be doing what the voice is proposed to do. Again information provided by Sky News. Thanks again perhaps with you ideas you should run for PM 🫠

@Ed_Downunder

Жыл бұрын

@@ClaireOgle-tl9kg Thank you, Clair, the only position I will be running for is Post Mortum, That will last longer than 4 years, unless the Voice gets a yes vote! Then I will have to come back and haunt someone.👻😍

A huge No thanks from me

Here's a new word for this thing The Voice... Minoritarianism... when the democratic rule if the majority is overruled by a racial minority.

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I stand with the 92% who want their voices heard as well!

Straight out of the Rudd copybook. Announce something completely useless and cry like a baby while doing it.

@mickden3155

Жыл бұрын

😂😂It must be a Labor thing to cry Bob Hawke did it as well when it was revealed his daughter was a druggie he cried like a baby on tv they are piss weak PM's .

@margaretchapman9328

Жыл бұрын

He didnt even cry really, I didnt see a single tear, he tried too but it shows that he only got somewhat emotional to play on the emotions of the electrate. You dont vote to change our constitution by emotions, its a no for me

@area51isreal71

Жыл бұрын

@@margaretchapman9328 Same here Margaret. It's a big NO from me too.

Legislation to permanently separate the Aboriginal Australians from the Australians Check New Zealand and look at the trouble the twin governance has caused, ask Winston Peters. It just grows like Topsy

Some politician needs to segregate people into sectors rather than seeing them all as Australians.. We have First Australians, Second and third..

See that Thomas Mayo use to be maritime workers union boss here in Darwin, how does a kiwi, union boss get on the voice board, it is all a con

@Henry1965ism

Жыл бұрын

Union bosses typically just line their own pockets.

Lawyers are all for this,more grist for the mill!

Vote NO!

If the Voice gets passed, does that mean freehold home owners might be taxed by being on Aboriginal land? SCARY. VOTE NO.

@blox82

10 ай бұрын

Yes it absolutely does. Mayo has said exactly that. Best to vote no

We have had indigenous only rugby league matches and they have talent but they aren't the political type that demand more power

The voice will end up becoming a tyrannical voice.

Indegeous and working. Sounds funny when someone says it out loud🤣🤣

@jettstream2886

Жыл бұрын

You can't even spell the word, dumb prick

2023 referendum is passed the people vote YES for the voice , 2024 the first australian boat people reach indonesia

@rayklein1125

Жыл бұрын

I've already immigrated to Bali. None of this shit goes on here. Good luck Australia, you're going to need it

Greg Craven is weak to say that he disagrees with the proposal but is going to vote yes .

@Tyronepeader

Жыл бұрын

If he was a fair dinkum Skynut he'd be roaring "no no no". 😂😅

Vote NO vote Yes for Albo getting the sack

It means we have to go back to the days of fighting and hate

So where how is Dutton fighting this.

It is not democratic for a minority sector of the population to override the authority of the executive.

@blox82

10 ай бұрын

Totally agree. & also, this minority is undefinable. ATSI identification is a personal choice eg Bruce Pascoe. Blood tests & genetic profiling may eventually be required to settle the question. It's all ridiculous & so wrong. VOTE NO!

Who’s the white guy behind ALBO with the hat on

@johnschannel449

Жыл бұрын

probably an aboriginal

@peternut358

Жыл бұрын

@@johnschannel449 how can you tell

@johnschannel449

Жыл бұрын

@@peternut358 becasue his white

@peternut358

Жыл бұрын

@@johnschannel449 that sounds about right 😉

Chuck the whole waste of money into the BIN.!!! Government included.

Don't vote yes Vote No ❣️❣️

All the "Aboriginals" on stage are public servants, most of whom are entitled to UK passports. Why change the Constitution when section 44 needs enforcing?

@johngeier8692

Жыл бұрын

They are all mixed Australoid and Caucasoid.

Fix % rates power prices costs living forget this bill aboriginal get plenty benefits

Albo and his mates can go get ******