Bartoli seems possessed by the demon of aspirated sounds
@rennan11733 жыл бұрын
As an Italian, Bartoli should know it better.
@jimmyj6209
3 жыл бұрын
The ones who made her famous were responsible, clearly they have very little taste
@DM-wj8br
2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyj6209 The Decca/London label just needed a pair of boobs to promote.
@jimbuxton2187
2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyj6209 the sad thing is she doesn't need to do it. There are performances where she doesn't, so there's really no excuse.
@mariofilippeschi48553 жыл бұрын
Very interesting thanks for the knowledge.
@jimmychoo18573 жыл бұрын
Great! Thank You for your job! Please proceed!
@Vocalgold1955 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for these two revelatory entries. I’ve commented above and it became a voice message.
@loveyall19102 жыл бұрын
0:45 pure vocal greatness of AIR 😍
@draganvidic2039
2 жыл бұрын
No
@KajiVocals
Жыл бұрын
@@draganvidic2039 You missed the sarcasm
@operaforlife65513 жыл бұрын
Great, content, thx, there are many vids about what you should do, but knowing what to avoid is at least as helpful! :))
@AndreiUngureanuoperafan3 жыл бұрын
Simionato also used to sing the fioritura with H though. And many others.....It's not the right thing, but nowadays it's almost accepted. Same were G. Scalchi or M. Horne.
@RadamesAida2Operalovers3 жыл бұрын
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@lesliejohnflanagan2 жыл бұрын
I think there is a real difference between the use of an 'h' and a neat articulation of the glottis for each pitch. This is also not the same as sliding across notes with less clarity and calling it legato.
@indeserto2 жыл бұрын
Eugenia Mantelli is amazing! Kermes, Bartoli: no comment!
@kevinmark21463 жыл бұрын
You want to hear proper bel canto technique; Rockwell Blake.
@KajiVocals3 жыл бұрын
Bartoli sounds so bad lol.
@richiesol20
3 жыл бұрын
hi kaji
@Mohamedmifxal
2 жыл бұрын
Do Laughing Kookaburra's know the sound H? 😂😂😂
@laprimmadonna2341
Жыл бұрын
Vulgar es la palabra, canto vulgar.
@caseyfranco39593 жыл бұрын
I tell myself that Bartoli is not real and then I'm happy
@emilygreene3460
2 жыл бұрын
Ah your childish hypocrisy knows no bounds. Hopefully you will provide something actually objectively factual and constructive.
@MrBertramLevaughn3 жыл бұрын
Who's the male teacher in the video? And where can I find the longer version of that clip?
@mathiasivanbarrancopedrozo6798
3 жыл бұрын
Thomas Quarstoff, his Masterclass
@mathiasivanbarrancopedrozo6798
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Bass Baritone!
@MrBertramLevaughn
3 жыл бұрын
@@mathiasivanbarrancopedrozo6798 thank you!!
@Mohamedmifxal2 жыл бұрын
Bartoli is airy even without her ha-ha-ha coloraturas, must be the consequence of the technique. She's like the sweetest and humble lady on the stage. then turns into a vulgar Queen of Hearts meets the Clown whenever she sings. Another aspect of modern opera that is keeping people away. the overacting and laughable interpretations.
@mtrmann
Жыл бұрын
And then there's the fact that she's incapable of singing loud enough to be heard in any modern opera house.
@laprimmadonna2341
Жыл бұрын
@@mtrmannmuy cierto. Saludos ❤❤
@andity13 жыл бұрын
In our university, we have this discipline Interpretation with a conductor. The conductor who I worked with, told me exactly that, to be easier to sing coloratura. He said use "Ha-ha-ha"
@MrPft25
3 жыл бұрын
You’re just letting air into the chords! Don’t.
@andity1
3 жыл бұрын
Well I am not.. just saying, what they are teaching. I may have done that then, but of course not doing it anymore 😄
@mansa_p3 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion of Michael Trimble ?
@RadamesAida2Operalovers
3 жыл бұрын
I was going to post this later on. But as you mentioned Mr Trimble. I thought I would post it now for you. I think this explains how I sort of think of him. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIumsrCEeqaee84.html
@mansa_p
3 жыл бұрын
@@RadamesAida2Operalovers Thank you, the video you linked was a wonderful insight on how teaching singing is infinitely harder than singing itself.
@laprimmadonna2341 Жыл бұрын
2:11 😊😊😊😊😊
@BookofNote8 ай бұрын
Eugenia sounds magnificent
@jimbuxton21872 жыл бұрын
I think the conductors want clarity so singers use aspiration. We need to learn how to bounce the notes with no "h" aspiration. It takes practice. LOTS of it.
@roland-qg3dh Жыл бұрын
Not fond of Bartoli’s cluckatura.
@HorstBerbel8 ай бұрын
Bartoli s a catastrophe!!
@Vocalgold1955 Жыл бұрын
The world of barely perfunctory audibility on top notes has replaced bloom, thrill, complete technique and sadly is being imitated by young singers as the new “entrepreneurial good enough” syndrome. 😢
@BLOP8883 жыл бұрын
Hahaha coloratura and 0 vowel clarity
@Vocalgold1955 Жыл бұрын
0:59
@laprimmadonna2341
Жыл бұрын
Terrible 😮😮😮
@Vocalgold1955
Жыл бұрын
@@laprimmadonna2341 Thank you for your reply. Can you clarify whether you were referring to the singing on the KZread or my comments on perfunctory singing being the norm these days?
@toscadonna5 ай бұрын
Too much air in the modern singers. Where are their cords, and why aren’t they closing? No chest voice anywhere and no squillo either.
@rapsodie12112 жыл бұрын
Tito Schipa, Gigli, put sometimes "h", that's probably because they are australian and sing rnb music 😉 Guillaume Ibos, close friend of Massenet and the tenor who whom he rewrote Werther from baritone to tenor does "pourquoi me réveillé hé" 🤔 probably a bad singer or bad french speaking 🤣🤣🤣 some serious, modesty and honesty would be welcome sometimes...
@jimmyj62093 жыл бұрын
A shame there isn't a composer like Mozart that could compose an aria for singers like Bartoli
@draganvidic2039
3 жыл бұрын
Why? It’s better if she sang correctly all music already written.
@MarielynetteJohnson2 жыл бұрын
Fake title. No technique mentioned. Just operatic French and Italian. Why shouldn't I imitate? What shouldn't I imitate? The letter H ? Bleah.
@xpk8286
2 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t imitate because it’s an amateurish defect when used for more than dramatic effect on a word/phrase. Imagine a violinist or pianist disrupting the line the way these aspirated singers do.
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Bartoli seems possessed by the demon of aspirated sounds
As an Italian, Bartoli should know it better.
@jimmyj6209
3 жыл бұрын
The ones who made her famous were responsible, clearly they have very little taste
@DM-wj8br
2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyj6209 The Decca/London label just needed a pair of boobs to promote.
@jimbuxton2187
2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyj6209 the sad thing is she doesn't need to do it. There are performances where she doesn't, so there's really no excuse.
Very interesting thanks for the knowledge.
Great! Thank You for your job! Please proceed!
Thank you for these two revelatory entries. I’ve commented above and it became a voice message.
0:45 pure vocal greatness of AIR 😍
@draganvidic2039
2 жыл бұрын
No
@KajiVocals
Жыл бұрын
@@draganvidic2039 You missed the sarcasm
Great, content, thx, there are many vids about what you should do, but knowing what to avoid is at least as helpful! :))
Simionato also used to sing the fioritura with H though. And many others.....It's not the right thing, but nowadays it's almost accepted. Same were G. Scalchi or M. Horne.
Please support the channel by liking and Subscribing. It will encourage me to post more videos. There is a lot of time and effort needed to produce this free information.
I think there is a real difference between the use of an 'h' and a neat articulation of the glottis for each pitch. This is also not the same as sliding across notes with less clarity and calling it legato.
Eugenia Mantelli is amazing! Kermes, Bartoli: no comment!
You want to hear proper bel canto technique; Rockwell Blake.
Bartoli sounds so bad lol.
@richiesol20
3 жыл бұрын
hi kaji
@Mohamedmifxal
2 жыл бұрын
Do Laughing Kookaburra's know the sound H? 😂😂😂
@laprimmadonna2341
Жыл бұрын
Vulgar es la palabra, canto vulgar.
I tell myself that Bartoli is not real and then I'm happy
@emilygreene3460
2 жыл бұрын
Ah your childish hypocrisy knows no bounds. Hopefully you will provide something actually objectively factual and constructive.
Who's the male teacher in the video? And where can I find the longer version of that clip?
@mathiasivanbarrancopedrozo6798
3 жыл бұрын
Thomas Quarstoff, his Masterclass
@mathiasivanbarrancopedrozo6798
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Bass Baritone!
@MrBertramLevaughn
3 жыл бұрын
@@mathiasivanbarrancopedrozo6798 thank you!!
Bartoli is airy even without her ha-ha-ha coloraturas, must be the consequence of the technique. She's like the sweetest and humble lady on the stage. then turns into a vulgar Queen of Hearts meets the Clown whenever she sings. Another aspect of modern opera that is keeping people away. the overacting and laughable interpretations.
@mtrmann
Жыл бұрын
And then there's the fact that she's incapable of singing loud enough to be heard in any modern opera house.
@laprimmadonna2341
Жыл бұрын
@@mtrmannmuy cierto. Saludos ❤❤
In our university, we have this discipline Interpretation with a conductor. The conductor who I worked with, told me exactly that, to be easier to sing coloratura. He said use "Ha-ha-ha"
@MrPft25
3 жыл бұрын
You’re just letting air into the chords! Don’t.
@andity1
3 жыл бұрын
Well I am not.. just saying, what they are teaching. I may have done that then, but of course not doing it anymore 😄
What is your opinion of Michael Trimble ?
@RadamesAida2Operalovers
3 жыл бұрын
I was going to post this later on. But as you mentioned Mr Trimble. I thought I would post it now for you. I think this explains how I sort of think of him. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIumsrCEeqaee84.html
@mansa_p
3 жыл бұрын
@@RadamesAida2Operalovers Thank you, the video you linked was a wonderful insight on how teaching singing is infinitely harder than singing itself.
2:11 😊😊😊😊😊
Eugenia sounds magnificent
I think the conductors want clarity so singers use aspiration. We need to learn how to bounce the notes with no "h" aspiration. It takes practice. LOTS of it.
Not fond of Bartoli’s cluckatura.
Bartoli s a catastrophe!!
The world of barely perfunctory audibility on top notes has replaced bloom, thrill, complete technique and sadly is being imitated by young singers as the new “entrepreneurial good enough” syndrome. 😢
Hahaha coloratura and 0 vowel clarity
0:59
@laprimmadonna2341
Жыл бұрын
Terrible 😮😮😮
@Vocalgold1955
Жыл бұрын
@@laprimmadonna2341 Thank you for your reply. Can you clarify whether you were referring to the singing on the KZread or my comments on perfunctory singing being the norm these days?
Too much air in the modern singers. Where are their cords, and why aren’t they closing? No chest voice anywhere and no squillo either.
Tito Schipa, Gigli, put sometimes "h", that's probably because they are australian and sing rnb music 😉 Guillaume Ibos, close friend of Massenet and the tenor who whom he rewrote Werther from baritone to tenor does "pourquoi me réveillé hé" 🤔 probably a bad singer or bad french speaking 🤣🤣🤣 some serious, modesty and honesty would be welcome sometimes...
A shame there isn't a composer like Mozart that could compose an aria for singers like Bartoli
@draganvidic2039
3 жыл бұрын
Why? It’s better if she sang correctly all music already written.
Fake title. No technique mentioned. Just operatic French and Italian. Why shouldn't I imitate? What shouldn't I imitate? The letter H ? Bleah.
@xpk8286
2 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t imitate because it’s an amateurish defect when used for more than dramatic effect on a word/phrase. Imagine a violinist or pianist disrupting the line the way these aspirated singers do.