Kramnik: Okay, everything is clear to me. We do the procedure.

@Mathius4

19 күн бұрын

😂😭

@schindler95g73

19 күн бұрын

HAHHAHAHAAH

@user-er1qw4vc8n

19 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@DosaDisug

8 күн бұрын

I was just looking for this comment 🤣

@obsidaisy7776

5 күн бұрын

Okay letz do ze procedure

This guy Kramnik seems like a good sport. I'm sure he'd never make spurious insinuations about someone cheating out of jealousy or bitterness!

@jocachess

5 ай бұрын

But that's what he did...he proved to be a bad loser here.

@veins91

5 ай бұрын

@@jocachess its called sarcasm lol

@saulsavelis575

5 ай бұрын

@@jocachess stop shitting in your trousers hater...Kramnik complained about nodirbek moving his pieces on KRAMNIK'S TIME...buy some brain you halfwit

@saulsavelis575

5 ай бұрын

@@veins91 no it is not. otherwise any sentence you should understand in REVERSE...if you say it in sarcasm mode you always give some clues that you are actually talking in reverse mode and this comment is FULLY in the same mode...so you always understand language in DIRECT MODE unless you are a m o r o n

@veins91

5 ай бұрын

bro the tism is really getting you@@saulsavelis575

Organisers: This is an armageddon match. There is no increment Kramnik: I understand Organisers: It is highly likely there will be flagging Kramnik: Sure *Kramnik loses on time* Kramnik: WTF?!?!

@williamhuan

5 ай бұрын

Kramnik: The clock should be investigated for cheating!!

@gogogreengeneration

5 ай бұрын

These young kids have to much adrenaline steroids? Or just teen spirit ?

@williamhuan

5 ай бұрын

@@gogogreengeneration smells like teen spirit to me.

@nikospitr

4 ай бұрын

lol

@minhly650

4 ай бұрын

“Here we are now, entertain us”, :))

Kramnik is having a serious midlife crisis.

@carloscervantes911

5 ай бұрын

Shut you mouth up

@mountains_beaches98

5 ай бұрын

He needs some milk!

@maelyodasss5880

5 ай бұрын

more like endlife crisis

@borisgorski7574

3 ай бұрын

He needs a toilet...

@vik24oct1991

3 ай бұрын

he is nearly 50 so its more like end of life crisis.

Finally, a chess broadcast that gets it. 1) Great commentary. 2) Multiple camera angles with a clear view of the board. 3) Evaluation bar obscured. 4) Lighting/Ambience. 5) Players easily identifiable.

@theonexx762

6 ай бұрын

I agree, unfortunately organizers don't. Over the board games without increment in 2023 are just a shame.

@chrislevy42069

6 ай бұрын

Right, this looks amazing. I've never seen chess like this

@GEM4sta

6 ай бұрын

Lol you're joking, this is the ugliest thing I've ever seen, it looks awful, looks like it's a school project

@Shkiperkir

6 ай бұрын

@@theonexx762you know that that’s what Armageddon is about? The whole idea is that there is no draw - one of the players wins, and for that you need no time increment or the game can be endless.

@Lukasek_Grubasek

6 ай бұрын

White needs to win the game. Black needs to draw or win the game. There's a decisive result with increment anyways. I agree that there needs to be more time pressure in an armageddon game, but I'd suggest something along the lines of +1 second for a move only if you have less than 5 seconds. Of course that's never gonna happen because chess organizers are old fashioned and don't have the game developer mindset, but it's something to dream about@@Shkiperkir

His usual graciousness on display 😳

@armingleiner5292

7 ай бұрын

He is a disgrace.

@user-hi4qm3kf7w

5 ай бұрын

It can be understood. For a long time he had a winning position, and then his flag was cut down in a draw position

@HouseOfHam

5 ай бұрын

Most top GMs have huge egos and hate losing.

@qaz2240

3 ай бұрын

How elegant

@verstraetenandre

2 ай бұрын

Sadly, we will never know how YOU handle getting old as a pro player who took the crown from Kasparov....

Nodirbek won fair and square. If Kramnik doesn't like the rules, he shouldn't sign up for an armageddon tournament in the first place, and certainly not blame Nodirbek for beating him

@sotovo

6 ай бұрын

How did Kramnik blame Nodirkbek - do you know what he said?

@samarkand_nights

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. Kramnik always rages about flagging in Armageddon yet signs up for an Armageddon tournament!

@AlesZvolanek

6 ай бұрын

@@sotovo lets just say - he didn't take it like a champ, in fact he did take it like a sore loser, didn't even shake hands after the game...

@musical_lolu4811

6 ай бұрын

@@AlesZvolanek yeah, so? Doesn't change anything. Chess players will behave however they want, but the rules are always there. You people are always looking for unimportant stuff to talk about in chess, from handshakes to facial expressions, and blow them out of proportion. Is the chess that boring to you?

@lukaswolek7294

6 ай бұрын

@@musical_lolu4811Have you ever played normal chess? Not shaking hands is a very big issue.

If it was online he would’ve accused him of cheating

@floressan1

2 ай бұрын

Kramnik gambit declined: cheating accusation

Hating on a rising youngster who probably looked up to you growing up and has definitely studied your games just because you lost a match which should mean nothing to you at this stage of your career is absolutely horrible. The way the smile on Nodirbek's face just faded as he saw this grown ass man throwing tantrums over getting flagged is just heartbreaking. I don't usually care about people like these but I hate Kramnik with all my heart. Mf makes everything personal with players who are doing their best in the name of "outing the cheaters" just because he's a sore loser. Just retire and enjoy life old man.

@jestice75

5 ай бұрын

I play chess for the sole purpose of upsetting my opponents. Nodirbek kind of looks away smirking, I think he enjoyed it.

@haraldkrull2549

4 ай бұрын

Totally Totally agree with u sajaljaiswal, been thinking the exact same thing for a while now

@Janak217

4 ай бұрын

He killed his reputation lmao. A former world champ to meme material

@sosa7k169

2 ай бұрын

@@jestice75Lol get a life bro

@tintinmilou9471

2 ай бұрын

People like him are the reason i stopped over the board competitive play, i just couldnt stand these guys anymore, especially on club level, i even witnessed fights, old guys flipping out on youngsters, smugness, arrogance, being a sore loser is a generalised problem in club chess

Nodirbek placed all his pieces on exact squares without falling even at time scramble, i dont know what kramnik is complaining about. He literrally fall his king then put his pawn one square ahead.

@ejsampana426

6 ай бұрын

Why, is he complaining in the first place?

@saulsavelis575

5 ай бұрын

stop stupid insinuations and find out why he was unhappy...nodirbek turned the clock into his side and Kramnik complained about it since he was unable to see properly the time and it made him less convenient to hit the clock

@Gal26

5 ай бұрын

​@saulsavelis575 watch the video again bud. The clock moved every time Kramnik hits the button.😂

@brycepeddicord6763

5 ай бұрын

​@@saulsavelis575love it when stupid people call others stupid always funny. Classic KZread comment😅

@jotarokujo5132

4 ай бұрын

@@brycepeddicord6763 i think saulsavelis is kramnik himself xD

Kramnik reminds me of hellmuth

@albatross_gg

5 ай бұрын

Holy shit that's so accurate. He's definitely the Phil Hellmuth of chess 😂

@henrikillah1986

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 true

@csetliberia8132

2 ай бұрын

Both douches

@GukGukNinja

29 күн бұрын

HONEY HE FLAGGED ME ON A LOSING POSITION!

@ThePaullam328

16 күн бұрын

Would be fun if Kramnik plays poker with Hellmuth one day

Knocked it out of the park with the production and angles and everything on this one. I’m super happy to see it. Best chess broadcast I’ve ever seen

@-_Nuke_-

2 ай бұрын

They are learning!

@ericastier1646

2 ай бұрын

it's horrible

Games without increment should be played only by using computer screen. Games over the board should be played only with increment or delay in order to avoid things that happened in this game. During last 10 seconds of the game you can clearly see that both guys were violating rules by making move before opponent pressed the clock. Kramnik's falling/misplaced pieces made look this game not like chess game but like something else. Question - where was the arbiter? Again, the easiest solution to eliminate these things is to force players to play by using computer screen.

@stoutlager6325

7 ай бұрын

I've thought about this and eventually, begrudgingly, decided it's the correct idea. OTB time scrambles with 1 second increment or no increment are a mess. Always. If you insist on making armageddon like that they should play on computers so they can at least premove and avoid knocked over pieces and the whole fiasco that happens every time.

@colinchesbrough5772

7 ай бұрын

The real insult to injury is that it's a dead drawn position, and I think he was truly angry at nordi for simply playing it out and flagging him. I suppose he thought it was disrespectful; but what was he supposed to do, extend his hand out of respect for the legend? He's a competitor. He wants to win.

@EGarrett01

7 ай бұрын

Yes, the Irina Krush vs. Anna Zatonskih US championship game was similar. Zatonskih was moving on Krush's time, the pieces got knocked off the board and they kept playing. Total arbiter fail.

@fuglbird

7 ай бұрын

Over the board games without increment are absolutely fine. Knocking over pieces on the board and not restoring them before pushing the clock should result in an immediate intervention by the arbiters. The problem is that the arbiters are not active enough.

@babstra55

7 ай бұрын

using up your time is a gambit. you give time for longer calculation, and if you gamble too much it's your error in judgement. it's not a coincidence, especially with players this good.

as mentioned by kasparov "i can fight any opponent but not my biological clock. fighting time is a losing proposition."

@Philiopantheon82

6 ай бұрын

Hikaru: hold my wrist watch

@user-cu5rr2ux4j

6 ай бұрын

@@Philiopantheon82 Hikaru isnt that old

@UndisputedONE2

5 ай бұрын

@@user-cu5rr2ux4j for real, isnt he in his 30s?

@Archeops24

5 ай бұрын

Kramnik isn't even that old lol

@UndisputedONE2

5 ай бұрын

@@Archeops24 Average GM's peak in career agewise in chess lies between 30-35. Kramnik is 48 y.o. ....um yes, he actually is that old do the math, lol

Nodirbek has kind manners. Even his final smile did not have any condescending tone.

Eventually life will flag us all. I hope kramnik is prepared for this.

@kaldrazadrim

2 ай бұрын

God cheated!

So Kramnik makes an ilegal move and still gets angry with his opponent. It's sad watching Kramnik lately.

"Interesting play by Nodirbek"

@AffectionateCurling-ps4xo

2 ай бұрын

“i think that game needs to be investigated further”

This has got to be the calmest rage ever.

@KF1

4 ай бұрын

Inside he was secretly blogging about it. Very aggressive blogging

@jestrada123

2 ай бұрын

Clickbait title

@LoudWaffle

2 ай бұрын

I’m sure he wasn’t swearing at him or anything, but he was clearly complaining at the opponent when it ended, and stormed off without even handshaking him. Those kind of bad manners are unthinkable from a former world champion, take everything in context.

otb chess in a time scramble like that is ridiculous but it is what it is.

@teenspirit1

2 ай бұрын

I've seen MMA matches more respectful than this one.

The production quality here is better than anything I’ve ever seen. Great commentary, and the format keeps things interesting even when no pieces are moving, because it’s exciting seeing the players stress and agonize over their decisions.

its hard for a great chess player like kramnik who dedicated his whole life to chess to leave the game for life qyite literally, it's unfortunate to see him in this state where he is quite grumpy and a mess when back then he used to take losses with a smile.

It is called Armageddon. He was just taking it literally.

@OvercookedOctopusFeet

6 ай бұрын

The old guy in the glasses had a nervous breakdown. I hope he received the care and help he needed after leaving the premises. Have we heard from this man since?. Hope he is safe and well. God bless.

@santoshjadhav5250

6 ай бұрын

​@@OvercookedOctopusFeet😂😂😂

I love this format, also the nuance there. Only focus on 1 board, futuristic environment, and the tense of the game.

Nodirbek is the next Magnus. He's excellent at all time formats.

@jeffn9952

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. And he just passed Alireza and Nepo to reach world #5

@AffectionateCurling-ps4xo

2 ай бұрын

@@jeffn9952now even #4

@spectre9948

2 ай бұрын

@@AffectionateCurling-ps4xothat ranking doesn’t mean much when he doesn’t win titles

@user-hh6qv2to4j

2 ай бұрын

Согласна! Он хорош!

@derkohones

Ай бұрын

he's very good, yes. But i dont think he will ever get close to magnus

Now it’s time for the procedure, block and report for cheating.

@precisi0n86

8 күн бұрын

Let’s check the engine. 92 dot 4 percentage. Yes it’s clear to me now.

No handshake is WILD behavior. Fischer may not be the craziest anymore.

@lemos_os

7 күн бұрын

no handshakes is meaningless compared to fischer.

Kramnik right after: Alright, time for "the procedure" .........Where tf is my report button?

“Okay lets do the procedure” Im actually dying😂😭 The way kramnik just move and presses the clock at the same time at the end and doesn’t really accurately take turns. Basically no fks were given🤣🤣🤣

Kramnik is a dirty person. Nodirbek is only the age of his son/daughter, but Kramnik played dirty, lost, refused to shake hand, and raged against Nodirbek

@Joshwaheazo

3 ай бұрын

Watch it again he used a 2nd move to put it back on the same square he accidentally knocked it to.

The production was so good here

Kramnik doesn’t respect his opponent. If he was Anand, Kasparov or Ivanchuk , kramnik would have smiled and accepted the loss.

@MohammedMustafa-sx3jf

27 күн бұрын

Maybe not Kasparov but rest I agree

@duesexmachina6570

11 күн бұрын

Snuck in Kasparov

The clock cheated

It’s hilarious that Kramnik’s final three moves involved the king staying on the same square

@Joshwaheazo

3 ай бұрын

I think it's so he could correct his illegal pawn move.

Obviously Nodirbek was cheating there....right? right? no one's arm moves that fast it must be bionic.

@chokayes7830

5 ай бұрын

🤖

@VyoMoD

5 ай бұрын

the probability of a human to move his hands that fast in such a short time is equal to 0%, this is very "interesting" and should be investigated :D

@dreadpirateroberts2259

5 ай бұрын

​@@VyoMoD yeah according to mathematicians such quick hand movements are not possible. Nodirbek must be inverstigated , no one is above the law.

@stateofmontanapal.2506

2 ай бұрын

😂 I like this comment

Kramnik is the epitome of good sportsmanship in chess.

If there was anyone at fault then it was Kramnik. Nodirbek won fair and square.

"Okay lets do the procedure"

Kramnik doesn't behave like a professional chess player

I know this was 4 months ago, but Kramnik really needs to run those accuracy numbers. We might have ourselves a sun-don't-shine situation here. ;)

The Phil Helmut of chess! Kramnik is in the rise to become a star

Kramnik: Abdusattorov's play was interesting!

People here commenting like they know what Kramnik were saying.

greaaat video , love it keep´them asi herman@

What's happening to Kramnik? Always getting entangled with these issues. First "alleged cheating." Now the time control. He used to be so gracious. I hope this is just a phase, just like when he had a blundericious phase back in the 2000's, but bounced back big time. I hope Kramnik the champ returns.

@samuelpardana

5 ай бұрын

I feel bad for you, seeing how his situation escalated

@zaczakariclips

3 ай бұрын

Nope, he's getting worse now.

@user-bk9fk2tq2z

3 ай бұрын

Kramnik has always been like this.

This game was definitely very interesting.

It could definitely be seen as bad sportsmanship, but I can also see how frustrating an experience it must have been for Kramnik, having been among the top tier elite for so long and losing to a youngster. Still, there is no excuse for not graciously staking hands with your opponent and sincerely congratulating him. Maybe Kramnik has been studying with Dina Belenkaya.

@front331

6 ай бұрын

Dina is a cheater. Kramnik just has bad sportsmanship.

@user-ec8lw2vd5z

6 ай бұрын

Pretty stupid discus this cause in times of kramnik were no online modes😂

@ElcafeinsanodeHombre

5 ай бұрын

Krmanik tenía ventaja en la partida

@user-bk9fk2tq2z

3 ай бұрын

@@front331 How is Dina a cheater? Also, Kramnik may have cheated in Toiletgate.

@LoudWaffle

2 ай бұрын

All sports cause frustration, especially at the higher levels of skill - but all are still held to the standard of good sportsmanship. Kramnik shouldn’t get any leeway just because his temper is shorter than most. I

From what I understand, Kramnik feels that winning by using the clock is unsportsmanlike. If that’s the case, why do you participate in an Armageddon event?

Trash choice by production to not have the clock shown on screen.

That win was AMAZING❤ 🎉

The problem isn't the time, it's the pieces that are flying.

This isn't a recent game, or is it? I think I've seen it before.

Kramnik doesn't accept that he is older today...

excellent commentary as well

The Sad part : Kramnik can't do his procedure since its onboard match 😢

@lillemy5062

16 күн бұрын

I bet he visualized the block and report button

@junedkhan-ft6dh

16 күн бұрын

@@lillemy5062 lol 😂 I guess too

Kramnik has always seemed like a gentleman. Blitz games used to be played as a form of casual "skittles" before or after a tournament, where there was no scoresheet, and the players would have fun and laugh at the mistakes, even their own. It used to be fun. Nowadays, however, they have "officialized" this skittles game into serious chess stakes, so that it's no laughing matter when you hang a piece or pawn or lose an equal or won game on time. Whenever I lose a rated slow game, I am not near as frustrated as when I lose a rated blitz game, because with the slow game, I usually have played better moves and I lost through some serious oversight I can learn from. With blitz, you lose and you learn nothing, and you resent the fact your opponent gets points because he capitalized on a silly mistake, instead of "outplaying" you.

@Rostam.

6 ай бұрын

Stop caring about blitz games? That's how I deal with it. I still play it for fun, but if I lose in blitz or bullet it's just whatever. No reason to care about a time format which induces loads of blunders and flagging.

@pugsnhogz

5 ай бұрын

always seemed a gentleman lol not sure which timeline you're from but it ain't this one

@lightyagami1752

5 ай бұрын

I'd love to hear your definition of a "gentleman".

@santiagomorales9129

5 ай бұрын

get a life

@nulltube2530

5 ай бұрын

Ai comment spotted

Kramnik can't complain, that's how Armageddon is played

Fight will be fight what ever it may be

how many time you drop your king there at the end, my guy?

time scramble on real boards is a joke

The chess has spoken

Welcome to the young generation Vlad...

This loss couldn’t have happened to a better guy. Accuse others of cheating with no evidence because you can’t win anymore. Gbye!

Nordirbek should've hit him with the "TOO WEAK, TOO SLOW"

Nodibrek didn't do something wrong, we won legitimately. If Kramnik didn't like to lose like that he shouldn't participate in this tournament. On the other hand I wonder why, in the digital era are being played games without increment. The ideal rules for an Armagedon game, in my opinion. is like this. White take 5 minutes with 2 seconds increment, black takes X minutes with 2 seconds increment and before the game the two players bid on the value of X. The player with the smaller bid takes the black pieces.

@LoudWaffle

2 ай бұрын

Why would black get penalised with 1 or more minutes less than the opponent? Or more realistically: how do they decide a tiebreaker when both players refuse to bid lower than 5 minutes?

Correction- In the end "Kramniks enemy was none other then his pride"

Flagging is part of the game. If you had better time management you wouldn’t have been in a bad position. So tired of players calling “bs” or complaining after losing on time. As if they never flagged others.

The video title says "Kramnik rages...". Where is the rage in the video? Just a clickbaiting title 😐

That's why I don't like OTB bullet or blitz. It's just impossible to move the pieces accurately, it's just a mess. Classical and rapid are the best. Besides, chess was never meant to be a quick game anyway. But Kramnik can't be mad if he agreed to play such mode. He is still a brilliant player. Props.

@drnike591

18 күн бұрын

Just play 5+ 2 seconds

He will report soon that he cheated on board. 😂

I recall Kramnik playing out R vs B (no pawns) in an analogous situation vs Aronian many years ago.

Kramnik with gray hair and lots of weight. This makes me feel old.

Since Kramnik was playing before digital clocks were used, when mechanical clocks didn't give you an increment, he's actually more experienced with this kind of time control. I suspect he was more upset at himself than anyone else.

@dessertstorm7476

5 ай бұрын

he was clearly blaming the other guy

In his mind hes the Kramnik from 2005, reality disagrees.

@bambesfresser

7 ай бұрын

Nodirbek didn't outplay him so Kramnik can still tangle with the best.

From what I remember Kramnik was a very calm and humble player. I remember games from few years ago where he would lose and he would smile and shake the opponents hand. No hard feelings. Now he complains about what? He dropped the piece not Nodirbek! Very sad to see him in this state...

@NotTheMaestro

7 ай бұрын

both players made illegal moves there

@goitidanielaser2167

7 ай бұрын

@@NotTheMaestro yes but from what I ve seen Kramnik made the first mistake.

@chrismatheson4729

7 ай бұрын

Easy to be calm when you win. He loses quite a bit nowadays compared to his prime

@goitidanielaser2167

7 ай бұрын

@@chrismatheson4729 Read my comment again. I said he was humble when he lost, sometimes even would smile and shake the opponents hand with respect when getting check mated with beautiful patterns. Now he storms out like Nodirbek did something. When in reality they are both to blame.

@chrismatheson4729

7 ай бұрын

@@goitidanielaser2167 I read your comment. My point was that it is easy to be humble when losing when you are mostly winning. Now, he loses frequently, and it clearly eats at him.

Нодирбек сейчас 19 лет. Он занимает 4 строчку рейтинга ФИДЕ . Его шахматная сила растет безперерывно. Крамнику приближаются на 50 лет. Спад в его игре - это эстественный процесс. Его ровесник, чемпион ФИДЕ Рустам Касимджанов ( тоже узбек) сейчас основном занимает тренерством и секундантам. Он давно замечал спад в своих игре и перестал бороться молодым супер элитой шахматы. Одним словом, он привык.

Some interesting moves dropping the pieces from kramnik there. Very interesting.

And what a low class move to behave like this to a person who probably looked up to you as a kid.

I didnt know Phil Hellmuth played chess... interesting stuff!

Peter Leko would have been a finer world champion for sure.

Hi Worldchess, the subscribe button is covering up the board in the bottom right side.

Kramnik always reminds me of Phil Hellmuth

@ryanamburgy2791

6 ай бұрын

Pretty good comparison but Kramnik is a way better person than Phil

@raphael.portela

2 ай бұрын

except kraminik doesnt do jokes

Imagine spending a lifetime dedicated to chess just to lose to an inanimate clock.

My guy abdu didn't deserve that, sometimes they have to remember they are just teens against middle age damn man💀

I recognize that male commentator's voice. It's the great Jan Gustafson (which I probably misspelled)

@labestianegra6373

7 ай бұрын

You did.

Abdu's final smile is priceless.

Abdusattorov was clearly using Stockfish to move his pieces faster!

É isso que dá quando o velhinho nao toma seus remedios, melhor é o Abdu rindo "ixi, surtou de novo... kkkk"

@Zeldrizx

6 ай бұрын

kkk

Why dont they use magnetized pieces during blitz and armageddon games? Pieces on the wooden board are flying and falling everywhere.

Kramnik should have given a good example of sportsmanship. Just a sore loser.

man is hilarious when time go crazy, online you just need to click

Kramnik: ok, let's do the procedure.

Kramnik looks like Neumann from Seinfeld.

This is all you have to know what kind of person is currently making insinuations of cheating is

Blitz without an increment in otb shouldn't be a thing in 2023 anymore, not even in Armageddon. It just leads to confusion in mutual time trouble. There should always be enough time to make a move. Even one second increment would improve things dramatically

where is the handshake after the game? The lack of nurturing from Kramnik. So bad behaviour from him

What does it mean when they say Kramnik was "flagged?" And what exactly was he flagged for?

@victorhahs3798

5 ай бұрын

“Flagged” means the player has run out of time.

@popesinbengal

2 ай бұрын

You play so fast your opponents clock depletes, beating them with the clock. Its a staple in fast chess, shame kramnik

Why can't we have fast updating boards like this in major tournaments

Kramnik was a world champion. But with age skills erode and newer younger players get better it has always been this way. Yes there are a few players who remained strong when they got older but that is the exception. If he's not being a sore loser he is accusing people of cheating, because how could they beat him any other way?

@stateofmontanapal.2506

2 ай бұрын

I would 100% agree with you. Indeed young generations are different they are much faster and they play different style. Nodirbek is probably the same age as Kramnik’s son/daughter, so Kramnik should have congratulated him and shake his hand. But Nodirbek looked more mature than Kramnik

крамник плачет как маленький ребёнок а тот на против как будто намного старше него вот он культура манера воспитания 😂