VK-650V - new turboshaft heart
The VK-650V is a turboshaft aircraft engine created at the Klimov company. The engine has an optimally simple structure, created using the latest technologies, electronic design and 3D printing of components. Having a take-off thrust of up to 650 hp, the VK-650V is designed for use on Ansat, Ka-226 or other helicopters of a similar class.
In addition to the base power plant, the VK-650V became the basis for a hybrid power plant, which includes a generator, batteries and electric motors. The new complex is used to study the prospects for using similar power plants on aircraft of the near future.
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00:00 - Small engines
00:43 - Light helicopters
02:38 - The project start
03:28 - The Klimov
03:56 - The engine description
06:34 - Digital design
07:08 - 3D printing
08:31 - Control system
09:26 - MRO and resource
11:24 - Hybrid power plant
13:36 - Prospects and plans
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Nice to see a company realizing there is a market for "simple and reliable". It's easy to see many industries racing into expensive/elaborate technological advances...when the reality is that 90% of the world is still 2nd World level countries. Having a fancy new engine is attractive at a demonstration show - but now picture that same engine 25 years from now on a poorly maintained runway being operated by a very small aviation company ferrying people in a remote wilderness...sometimes cheaper/simpler is the best way forward for a lot of things.
@ZaphodHarkonnen
9 ай бұрын
Eh, plenty of effort is done on simple and reliable when the market is demanding it. Just consider how long modern trucks, trains, planes, etc. are designed to go between major maintenance events. It’s really only in the consumer space that we’ve seen an apparent reduction in quality. And even then stuff is so much more reliable. At the same time you mention simplicity in this engine and yet its operation is dependent on microprocessors as it has a FADEC system. If pure simplicity and ability to maintain away from urban areas was truly critical then you’d have a mechanical system. But in reality, modern systems are reliable enough and so much better that it makes them vital for said simplicity and reliability in production systems. As now instead of having a complex mechanism that makes a watch look simple. You now have larger blocks that can simply be replaced in the field, improving reliability and uptime of a system. Reliability and simplicity is one of those things that’s amusingly a lot more complex than we’d like to think. ;)
@44R0Ndin
9 ай бұрын
@@ZaphodHarkonnen As usual, engineering is all about striking a balance. In this case, an advantage is found if you trade off the complexity of a FADEC (largely "do you have a factory to make the chips"), in favor of reducing the complexity of the mechanical systems of the engine itself. As an auto mechanic, I know for a fact that modern computer controlled automatic transmissions are so highly refined that you basically don't even need to change the fluid or filter in them for the life of the vehicle. Compare and contrast that to a fully hydromechanical or even partially electromechanical transmission from the 80's and 90's, which needed regular attention from someone like me. The computer control, along with refinements to the chemistry of the transmission fluid and clutch friction materials, and the metallurgy of the transmission's other components, has resulted in a unit that I am no longer required to disassemble in order to fix it. Instead, if it is bad, I simply replace the whole unit, because if I mess with it internally, like one of those transmissions from the 80's or 90's, it'll just break again in another 50k miles, just like one of those transmissions from the 80's and 90's.
@ZaphodHarkonnen
9 ай бұрын
@@44R0Ndin Oh, I'm very familiar with the concept working in IT. I'm from the age range where you learnt how a PC worked because it broke so often and was so unstable you had to know. While now they're so stable and resilient you don't need to know anything under the covers. To the point that Universities are having to teach new students what a hierarchical folder file structure is. Overall it's an improvement and shows how much better we are at doing things. But it's a trade off as fewer people know how to get something working again when it goes wrong.
@44R0Ndin
9 ай бұрын
@@ZaphodHarkonnen Funny you mention that, I've been building my own PC's for over 15 years, so I'm familiar with that too! Windows is still as tempermental and unreliable as ever, unfortunately. But if you're talking tablets and smartphones and the like, you're absolutely right.
@ZaphodHarkonnen
8 ай бұрын
@@44R0Ndin Oh, trust me. Windows is rock solid compared to what it used to be. ;)
It is interesting to my the effort that the companies put to achieve a balance between simplicity, complexity, cost of production, maintenance cost, power output etc to achieve an optimal engine. Thanks for the video Skyships. Also thanks to the Klimov company for allowing you access. Can you access any more aviation companies so that we see new engines, airplane designs and the likes ?
Thanks for showing these stories of Russian aviation developments. Very few other sources do this, and you do it in a passioned and neutral fashion.
This engine holds promise to be a simple, reliable and relatively inexpensive powerplant. Hopefully the lack of cooperation between the European, American and Russian aviation industries will end soon - it will be better for all of us.
The Engineering on that engine is beautiful
Greetings from Toronto, Canada
This is great news! Sky can I put in a vote for a video about the Kamov KA-26/126/226 series please? Still hoping for a video on the Mil-6 too )) 👍
Thank you for showing us that world of aviation. It will be a pleasure to learn more from IL-114-300, SSJ-New (with all domestic systems and local components) and other projects. Great content as usual!
@OOpSjm
7 ай бұрын
Irkut SJ-100
6:06, that engine is light, it weighs just a little more than my scooter!
Love it! Russian engineering is not only on the cutting edge but practical and reliable too.
Cool video! Cool engine!
Great video!! Thank you so much for covering the Russian aviation sector!!
I can see the turboshaft/electric hybrid being used as a tiltrotor design, with wiring replacing the complex driveshaft designs.
Wonderful, love Russian aircraft and it's nice to see Klimov busy. Beautiful machines. Oh, and thank you to Whittle for the engines...
Thank you for the video. It looks so tiny. I think they did good decision with simplicity in these times. Got a feeling printing and other new manufacturing processes eventually introduce so much advances in coming years it would seem like a waste to do otherwise now. Please show us more of the little Ka if possible.
Always informative AND entertaining!
A light haze of 3D printing with al lot of vague promises…. 😢This video is so inconclusive that it can’t be taken seriously, can it?
Rolls-Royce just put an all new small gas turbine for hybrid propulsion systems to test that delivers up to 800kW. The development time was also only 2 years. The engine can also be adapted for the use in helicopters.
@user-os9jn5bo6b
9 ай бұрын
Rolls-Royce is obviously a more accomplished establishment but what good is it for Vladimich Poot's regime? It's not like they're going to have access 🤣
@OOpSjm
7 ай бұрын
Rolls-Royce turbine generator project was scrapped due to insufficient power generation. They have an AE2100 turbofan based generator project.
@abdirahmanahmadalifarah926
12 күн бұрын
@@user-os9jn5bo6b lol copium
Thank you. The Hybrid electrical generator was first thought by Russian Engineers. I think it is an excellent Engineering idea . With new material the extra weight of electrical Generator and motor plus battery is possible. But I pay the extras for extra safety. With this design the RPM can go very high without putting pressure on engine . For example instead of 2.5 minutes it can go to 7 or 10 minutes, depending on the battery capacity . Electrical motor can go to very high RPM and Horsepower without putting ANY stress on the Turbo-shaft engine. And as you said : it came out very fuel efficient, much more than traditional engine , I assume. In electrical generation , the gear box does not need to be heavy as opposed to Turboshaft, direct connection to propellers or Helicopter blades. Please provide more info on Hybrid Electrical generation aircrafts . Thanks millions from California. Happy new year 2024 ( in 3 hours.)
One thing seemed a little odd. As far as I understand gas turbines are most efficient at 100% power so reducing the power would decrease fuel efficiency. Maybe the stated power is actually overstated and relies on the battery power for liftoff.
Its great hearing that Jackson 5 classic in the background "I'll be There".....
Keep up the good work sky
So cool if a bike was designed around it. Or a car.
I love how you cover more "mundane" I'veeveryday stuff, not just the flashy stuff that teenage boys have hanging on the ir bedroom walls.
After decades of jet engines, the idea of returning to props in a hybrid format sounds interesting.
@ZaphodHarkonnen
9 ай бұрын
The use of turboprops for commercial services is pretty common outside of the US. Just look at how many ATR-72s are still being spewed out. Let alone all the Dash 8s that are still operating.
I did not see this engine being so small that one or two strong people could pick up. I like simple, I think this engine is going to be successful going forward.
Frank whittle got it right 1st time ;)
Potemkin is into turbines now?
I hope it works well love and peace from England.🕊️💙❤
I have noticed that the smaller turbine engines are more likely to be unconventional and interesting than the larger ones. To be this is more relevant than hearing about the big military engines again
Waiting for a hybrid. Hoping too vk650v would be sold outside Ru.
Good innovation.
@13:30 Ultra-Low RPM prop
@cargopilot747
9 ай бұрын
🤣🤣
Russia has great engineers and greater potential. It’s a pity it’s squandered by their government’s revanchist policies. As to the engine. Higher pressure ratio compressors yield greater efficiency. A single stage centrifugal goes to 3.5 PR, then it hits supersonic. Judging from the cutaways, 3.5 is the VK’s limit. Recent P&W and RR/Allison have supersonic single stage compressors with greater pressure ratio (7+ ?) The VK’s has a problem with market trust and faith, as western markets have traditionally shied away from Russian products. Another problem is product support. I wish them well.
@planetaplan440
9 ай бұрын
Нам бы не до жиру, нам бы выжить. Русская поговорка. Пройдет десяток лет и тогда можно будет делать мотор для гражданского, конкурентного рынка. Сейчас нам надо иметь свой турбовальный двигатель и все...
@Bac4-qu6qg7sk4v
9 ай бұрын
So basically you wish well to their revanchist government which is headed by a happy gramps who has totally never told a lie, started a war or stole any of his serf population's money right? What's next? Wishing well to Maduro's regime of Venezuela and North Korean dear leaders?
@user-nf6qg1gv6i
4 ай бұрын
In this video, the Russian engine is a copy of the Ukrainian Motor Sich MS500
is this a re-upload ?
Its like when the show imiges of some of Chinas bridge work breaking down.These people that purchase these products have to be taught to maintain these bridges and airplanes and helicoptors not just get in them and ride around.These are life support systems and hve to be checked by hourly and yearely which ever comes first.
Looks like a very sensible and well designed engine - but who, outside of Russia, would actually buy it?
@alphaomega5169
9 ай бұрын
Belarus
@purapurapurans3938
9 ай бұрын
China
@user-um9ml7gg4x
9 ай бұрын
india, the continent of africa, South America. Brics+ 4+ billion people, 150 million in Russia. If Russia occupies at least 5% of the sales markets, then these orders will be enough for several decades ahead =)
@Karyabs
9 ай бұрын
70% of the world.
@flemmingsorensen5470
9 ай бұрын
@@Karyabs Thank you Russian troll....
Bless the engineers at klimov for creating something simple and practical. If only more industries still did this.
I am sure Russian government and military groups will be looking forward to being able to buy light helicopters that are all Russian. I suspect a few of their larger drones could use engines in this power rating, like Altius.
so are they going to fit 2 of those in a tank and finally phase out the v-92s2f v12?
@user-eh2uf3ul7l
9 ай бұрын
=T80😂
@OOpSjm
7 ай бұрын
V-92S2f V-12 is only 6 years old
Make us a video about pilot student airplane "s7 Tango"
That is what NATO wants to take away from Rússia. Their sovereingty and technical capabilities.😊😊😊
what does it inherit from pd-14?
@sidharthcs2110
9 ай бұрын
Most likely nothing (maybe materials). PD 14 is an axial flow design, this one is a radial flow design
@frankgaleon5124
9 ай бұрын
Nothing, they are completely different
I kind of think Turbin engines for light helicopters will be a thing of the past in a decade or two. (at least for newly designed helicopters). The weight advantage a turbines is ever decreasing and the fuel efficiency advantage of piston engine is ever increasing. To day you would be very happy to get 36% out of a turbine engine while even gasoline engines can get 42% and diesel can go as high as 45%. HCCI engines is around the corner with 48+% With the added benefit of being quite a bit cheaper to maintan. There is really two thing that make helicopter maintenance expensive, the pich control and the turbine. With out those two things, helicopters would be considerably cheaper to operate.
@MarcPagan
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update..from a former airline pilot Wasn't aware diesel had gotten that efficient. Also, the few times it was used in general aviation by the German Thielert company, it ran into financial issues. Got bailed out and bought by the Chinese Communist Party. Not good on many levels. As far as I know, the Austrian company Diamond is the only general aviation company using a diesel today. That said, with choppers the power to weight ratio is even more of an issue than with airplanes ...so, can't see diesel replacing turbines anytime soon in choppers, unless diesel's X% more efficient than a turbine is matched with X% less weight than a turbine.
@josemorenoporras7506
9 ай бұрын
I think helos need to be spot on in power to weight ratio to be possible to fly on them and get some utility. Piston engines are quite low in power to weight ratio compared to any turbine engine. Turbine engines are advancing at the same pace if not more than piston engines. Jet fuel is almost like diesel in energy,gas is less dense so I do not see any time soon turbine engines being replaced by piston engines in helicopters. Even Hybrid one´s would be hard to justify complexity. That´s why new US helicopters are fixed wing tilt rotor and that why only little helicopters use a piston engine. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RED_A03 This v12 engine is 363 KG for 500 hp vs 136 kg and 650 hp for the VK-650V. Then take account for the extra space the piston engine would need,it would be a challenge to make something useful with that engine for a helicopter. Planes do not have that big of a problem with engine weight if the power meets the plane requirements I think.The cheaper starting price males much more sense.
@matsv201
9 ай бұрын
@@MarcPagan Well.. 1 unit increase every 5-7 years or so, will end us up about here. Sometime in the mid/late 80s the first diesel engine broke 40%. I think it was like 2008 or so the first gasoline engine broke 40% What have mostly happen the last 2 decades or so is that the engine goten a lot lighter and stronger.. Of cause, they are not as strong as a turbine yet. And currently there is no way a diesel engine can replace a turbofan engine. What makes helicopters more suitable is that they typically fly at fairly low altitudes. At 30 000 feet a gas-turbine or turbofan engine a lot more effective, can reach 40% possibly even more. But at 3000 feet, a gas turbine is basically as effective as on the ground. And it have no power advantage over a gasolione or diesel. I would say, we are not quite there yet. But getting closed. The HCCI revolution... while delayed, is probobly around the horizon. HCCI is basically sort of a best of all world combination of diesel and gasoline. But they have proven complicated to produce. HCCI engines are typically more efficient than diesel and more power dense than gasoline. It can run on either fuel. There is currently one production car on the market with HCCI engine, but its predicted that pretty much every diesel on the market will be replaced with HCCI with in 5 years (at least in europe and USA) due to tax and emission standards. Basically, any manufacture that will not produce a HCCI with in 5 years, will neither produce a diesel. This will carry over to aircrafts
@kondeamani5106
9 ай бұрын
@@MarcPagandelta hawk in the US got type certificate for their 4cylinder DHK180 diesel engine recently. With AV gas going extinct and electric propulsion getting better, diesel would make sense for hybrid configuration considering their high efficiency.
@matsv201
9 ай бұрын
@@josemorenoporras7506 My main point was that the engines was not quite there yet, a 14 year old engine are not there yet for sure. If we look at something that is in cars today, something like TFG would be more in range. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koenigsegg_TFG 600hp and 70kg. Of cause, that engine would not be able to work in a helicopter as is, and would probobly need to be derated by 100 or 150hp, and obviusly, its not a diesel. Still derated to 450hp would still give it twice the weight to power of a VK650V, and consider the higher efficiency as well. The main issue with diesel is that when they work at highest performance efficiency is quite low. So a diesel have to be derated even more for aircraft use than a gasoline engine. Now, i was specifically talking about future air-engines. Future engine built on current technology. HCCI engines don´t have the problem with a steeply falling efficiency curve. They are also lighter than diesel engines (that is, lighter to HP, not to volume). Both product you can go out and buy today. Rare but existing. If we take a helicopter as a Bell 206 (well its the one im most familiar with), it have a 316hp engine that is 63kg, That is a lot lighter than most modern cars, but not a lot more powerfull, really if any. The helicopter have a maximum take of weight of 1520kg. If you rebuilt the TFG and derated it to 320hp something like that, that would be pretty much the same weight and power. Then considering a say 300liter fuel load. That is like 240kg just remove 25% of that and you probobly would save the diffrance. We are not quite there yet, but pretty close.
This Russian engine is a copy of the Ukrainian Motor Sich MS 500 engine
@fabiomigliorini2004
Ай бұрын
Yess...Is a fake copy of MS 500 ...😂😂😂
Priviet tavarish
That Klimov helikopter engine has from 60 to 80 % Ukrainian parts. How could it be whole Russian? Right! After full occupation of Ukraine. But this will never happen! So bye-bye to Russian helicopter!
@vincentas1
9 ай бұрын
no, klimov engine is entirely russian, the motor sich engines are ukrainian, but I don't think they make anything now
@Lyanguzov1
9 ай бұрын
Идиот🤦♂️
@OOpSjm
7 ай бұрын
Cocaine is bad
@user-nf6qg1gv6i
4 ай бұрын
You are right because this Russian engine is a copy of the Ukrainian Motor Sich MS-500
@ldkbudda4176
4 ай бұрын
@@user-nf6qg1gv6i It not only a unlicenced copy, more than halv parts were maid in Ukraine. And because of Russian agression Ukraine stoped delivery those parts - all Russian Klimov engine production halted.
Basic design, a kind of downgraded turbomeca copy. Reliable but with probably poor consumption performances and perhaps pollution
@sengwesetogile6054
9 ай бұрын
Why turbomeca? Most turboshafts engines in this power range use this design. The rr330 on the Robinson r66 also use this design
@philv3941
9 ай бұрын
@@sengwesetogile6054 cause they had this very turbomeca engine on their shelf, it was the original bought for their project.
@user-nf6qg1gv6i
4 ай бұрын
In fact, this Russian engine is a copy of the Ukrainian Motor Sich MS-500
Propaganda
@jamesmandahl444
9 ай бұрын
Lack of criticisms equals propaganda? Why are you guys attacking sky? He has every right to enjoy the russian aerospace industries. What is more is he has every right to support his nation even in this conflict as it is far from black and white. I'd say your post is propaganda.
@JIUNnF
9 ай бұрын
Конвертация.
@user-nf6qg1gv6i
4 ай бұрын
Yes, you are right, because this Russian engine is a copy of the Ukrainian Motor Sich MS-500 engine
😇 Promo-SM
Hopefully Russia will pull back within their borders soon and this ongoing war will cease. Otherwise, it likely won't matter how good of an engine it is, there won't be much international interest. I think Russia keeping (and not paying for) those leased aircraft and then even trying to re-register those aircraft, has burned a lot of bridges for Russian aviation.
@Pangolin_6483
9 ай бұрын
The Russian aircraft industry, on the contrary, benefited from the sanctions, since even Russia’s internal needs provided aircraft manufacturing enterprises with orders for many years. If previously Russian companies imported aircraft, now they purchase them from Russian manufacturers. The most striking example of this is the Sukhoi plant, which, due to capacity utilization, practically does not produce the Su-57, since there is simply no space for its production due to orders for other aircraft. In addition, the "West" overestimates its market; The United States and its allies are not the whole world or even half of it. But the rest of the world does not want a Western monopoly on goods and will happily accommodate alternative suppliers.
So they basically built an exact copy of the pw200🤷♂️
@svinche2
9 ай бұрын
Very different designs, but same power class engines ! VK-650 & VK-800 have better weight to power ratio
@KinZZi
9 ай бұрын
@@svinche2 I don’t see how the design is different. Both have an impeller connected to an HPT, reverser flow combustor, 1 LPT driving the power shaft. The inlet is the same. The GB and accessories are also placed in the same position. Same weight of around 250lbs and power.
@svinche2
9 ай бұрын
@@KinZZi It is development of VK-800V (Bigger derivative) . Conceptualy is simmilar with P&W 207 & Turbomeca Arrius , but have Different diameter of everything, the base of core is way different. And that is what give a advantages in overal performances. P&W 200 series show a way how simple can be the better in many ways., they just follow the path.
@jamesmandahl444
9 ай бұрын
@kinZZi lolol you just described the design of most modern turboshaft engines you goof. You clearly have issues with ruskies and are making asinine comments. Might as well say Russia copies others because they use cars and ships and planes.
@user-su5cm1kh9n
9 ай бұрын
@@jamesmandahl444engines are not one of russia's talents. They weren't desperately sourcing stuff from Motor Sich, before they blew it up last year, out of good will or ukrophilia. If they had been able to pull it off domeatically, they would have. This Vk-650, which is ever "almost ready, any sec about to go serial" is just another one of poot's patriotic propaganda bs stories. Touting ECU (something that has been used on even the cheapest western agricultural equipment since 1980's) and 3d printing as some major technical breakthroughs. Just a bs story to keep the vatniks & clueless babushkas happy. Don't hold tour breath waiting for serial production to launch.
This looks like a copy of the old Ukrainian engines they previously used but are unable to source lately. Even if they eventually manage to produce them serially, it'll most likely be inferior to the old Ukie offerings if we rely on history of russian engine manufacturing.
@konradkarlovich5801
9 ай бұрын
there are no old Ukrainian engines, there are Soviet ones
@Bac4-qu6qg7sk4v
9 ай бұрын
@@konradkarlovich5801 Soviet? Wth is that? So basically poot's russia sourced most all of it's chopper engines from the USSR. prior to invading Ukies territory in 2014 and losing their produce? Meanwhile the ussr collapsed in 1991. TIL russians can't handle numbers or history 🤣
@konradkarlovich5801
8 ай бұрын
@@Bac4-qu6qg7sk4v yes, both the Ukrainian AN and the Russian IL are all Soviet aircraft. Russia is the legal successor of the USSR ( especially since it was Russia that paid all Soviet debts for all former Soviet republics, including Ukraine ), Russia bought engines from Ukraine because it was more profitable than setting up its own production . Who knew that Ukraine would follow the path of Russophobic politics and transfer its sovereignty to the West...
@Bac4-qu6qg7sk4v
8 ай бұрын
@@konradkarlovich5801 It was Soviet Moscow with it's incompetent/futile government, a broken economic model & wasting the little resources the country had on silly uber expensive prestige/defense projects and propping up communists and dictatorships across the globe that were the reasons for USSR's debts in the first place :D Poot's federation would have long ago set up it's own production (instead of feeding the "banderites") if it was able to - due to lack of human talent, this is thus far beyond rf's capabilities. Ok they've built a shiny mock-up and produced some propaganda clips to boost the population's morale. As far as we know that's the end of it. As for ukie sovereignty - practice shows that those who long since "transfered sovereignty to the West" may have been spot on - if the alternative was to transfer it to a regime of ridiculously corrupt and incompetent bare-chested judoka/hockey player who likes to talk about "резиновой жопе" to school children. Latest nominal $ GDP per capita estimates of some of the traitors who joined the "rotten west" are: Poland - 22400 Lithuania - 28482 Latvia - 25000 Estonia - 31000 meanwhile, Belarus - 7480 Armenia - 8300 rf - 13000 Why would ukies want to be cozy with the latter group of impoverished, corrupt, totalitarian semi-failed states ?
@yourfave
8 ай бұрын
Antonov was Russian, it was moved to Ukraine to promote industrialization. Ukraine has not made any progress since USSR. I challenge someone to name anything. All factories are pre 1991
This engine is so similar to the PW200. COPIED THEFT.
@antonkirov1923
9 ай бұрын
PW200 copied from turbine of greek Heron😮
@jamesmandahl444
9 ай бұрын
Many turboshaft engines in this range are very similar.
@user-nf6qg1gv6i
4 ай бұрын
In fact, this Russian engine is copied from the Ukrainian Motor Sich MS-500, and factories in the Soviet Union such as Motor Sich copied engines from American PW
@SkyshipsEng Supporting Russian military industrial complex in a situation like this is quite wrong. I hope you realize it's exactly apolitical attitudes like yours that allow this war to happen.
@jamesmandahl444
9 ай бұрын
Forcing others to follow your moral compass. Classy. You are naive and out of touch. This conflict has roots many years back. I remember seeing Kerry and Nuland and others literally walking amongst the maidan protesters. Can you imagine if major chinese politicians were in the midst of a protest to change the government of a nation bordering us? We regime changed Ukraine and were guiding them to ultimately try to take Crimea from Russia so that the black sea would become a nato lake. We ultimately wanted to use Ukraine and other regime changed nations to destabilize and regime change Russia. This war is not black and white. Your ignorant comments help nothing and frankly you are making a fool of yourself.
@Ks73468
9 ай бұрын
🤣 cope
@user-su5cm1kh9n
9 ай бұрын
@@jamesmandahl444Yanukovich who was ousted in 2014 was literally a poot's lapdog. No peskov cookies or lavrov taking strolls on maidan but I think we can all agree - west is better than russia in every meaningful way. The nations who have remained poot's lapdogs are dirt poor and underdeveloped. Those who co-opt with the west are a lot less corrupt and filthy rich in comparison.
@frankgaleon5124
9 ай бұрын
When Sky will create a video about US bombers you will say that he supports the American military industrial complex
@RustedCroaker
9 ай бұрын
Supporting Russian military industrial complex right now means to being on the right side of history
Buy American helicopters American made helicopters no compromise
@markmerlino5723
9 ай бұрын
No such thing anymore sadly, bell outsources every step of manufacturing
@MarcPagan
9 ай бұрын
Even Boeing outsources. Ex: About 1/3 of the 787 is made in Japan.
@bradolsen8629
9 ай бұрын
So much for the glory days of 100% American made. What a bunch of shit that is.
@bradolsen8629
9 ай бұрын
@@MarcPagan are you serious? What is going on today? They claimed that all their airplanes are 100% American made with American parts and now I’m finding out from you that they’re not. That is disgusting.
@MarcPagan
9 ай бұрын
Yep. And the Communist Party of China owns the "American" aircraft company Cirrus, and the aircraft engine company Continental. Like to see a law requiring 100% American ownership of anything related to aviation, on U.S. soil. Check out the "Dreamlifter" aircraft, a converted 747 that flies 787 parts from around the world kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIisqaqJY7ufl5c.html @@bradolsen8629
Opssss Sorry is a Fake Copy of Ucrainan Engine MS 500....😂😂😂😂