Vivien Leigh on Orson Welles (1958 Interview)
Vivien Leigh passionately defends Orson Welles in a discussion with Sam Goldwyn and Kenneth Tynan.
Excerpt from an episode of Edward R. Murrow’s ‘Small World’, aired on December 28th 1958.
Vivien Leigh passionately defends Orson Welles in a discussion with Sam Goldwyn and Kenneth Tynan.
Excerpt from an episode of Edward R. Murrow’s ‘Small World’, aired on December 28th 1958.
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I love the way she defends Orson Welles.
Whatever demons Vivien fought in her life at her most stable she was an exceptionally brilliant actress with a fierce intellect which she very much displayed here.
@Gertyutz
6 ай бұрын
...and her illness never interfered with her work. She was 100% pro when working.
You can tell how intelligent Vivian was. Her mind is working a mile a minute, and she comes off beautifully even though Goldwyn is talking over her. You know, she stole "A Streetcar Named Desire" from Brando. On Broadway, he had overshadowed Jessica Tandy, but in the film it's really Leigh as Blanche who everyone remembers. And though it's admittedly Brando who turned the acting world on its head and redefined what a leading man was (he refused to be typecast in any way), this interview obviously shows how different from Blanche Vivian really was. She could be just as chameleon-like as Brando.
Orson wells was a genius
@anacletwilliams8315
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he was.
@iago4810
Жыл бұрын
*Welles
The greatest English language actress defending the greatest English language filmmaker! I wish Vivien Leigh had acted in the 40s in an Orson Welles film. Incidentally, Welles made nothing but good films, great films and masterpieces. Not a single bad one.
@gb2096
2 жыл бұрын
In fact, Leigh was almost cast as Lady Macbeth in Welles’s 1948 film! According to Welles, Laurence Olivier would not let her join the project. She would go on to masterfully play the part on stage several years later, directed by Olivier.
@feelgoodbeats9376
Жыл бұрын
@@gb2096nooooo shame on Olivier for robbing us of that!!!
@canalesworks1247
11 ай бұрын
@@gb2096 That would have been fantastic.
She was awesome. Good for her in speaking up and making excellent points in support of true quality.
For me, this interview is gold, i love Vivien !
There are plenty of directors who did their work for over 20 years, and wish they did Citizen Kane, Ambersons, Touch of Evil. Give me the guy creating masterpieces.
@canalesworks1247
11 ай бұрын
The fourth on that list for me should be Lady from Shanghai. Even the version we have now is spectacular. Imagine what the real version must have been like.
I didn’t think it was possible for me to love Vivian Leigh more than I already did!
@lawrencesait3432
7 ай бұрын
I think most of us loved our gorgeous Vivien Leigh
Good for her speaking up for Welles like that publicly in front of a powerful Hollywood producer, someone in a position to actually hire him - I saw a fascinating play by actor Austin Pendleton that featured Orson Welles and Vivien Leigh (and also Kenneth Tynan) as characters - based on the true life episode when Laurence Olivier hired Welles to direct himself and Joan Plowright in Ionesco's Rhinoceros - the play is called Orson's Shadow
"Can we change the subject from Orson Welles to Mr. Goldwyn..." Video ends there, appropriately.
@kamuelalee
Жыл бұрын
What did that guy ever do? JK
@Firespawnable
Жыл бұрын
Lol 🤣🤣🤣
@maciek8159
11 ай бұрын
@@kamuelaleeHe's just a money man. Producers don't have a creative bone in their body
Too short a glimpse of Edward R Murrow, one of the greatest newsmen and interviewers of all time.
Well said Viv!
Orson is a magnificent director and writer and actor
LOL Vivian was not going to stand for Orson being denigrated. If it wasn't on TV she would have said something even stronger to Goldwyn.
Orson Welles was way ahead of his time. He delved deep into people and exposed their frailties as a writer and director. That wasn't dared to be done back in Hollywood in those days and he was vilified by the establishment for it. But true cinephiles know his work for what it is. Genius. He would have been right at home creating for the screen today. He also gave the finest portrayal of Edward Rochester to date.
Clearly Samuel Goldwyn's opinion of HIMSELF was larger than his opinion of anyone else.
The old (man), "What have you done lately?" BS. Good job, Vivien- you were/are awesome....
It makes you wonder how many great movies got screwed over by MGM in the golden age, if he couldn't see anything good in Welles' writing or producing.
Go Vivian
@anacletwilliams8315
2 жыл бұрын
Go Vivian, go!
That’s really interesting. It would be great to see the whole thing. Still thank you for posting it 😊
@gb2096
3 жыл бұрын
The whole interview is actually online as well, in three parts! Here’s a link to the first: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZpdqzbRyf7XXhcY.html
Vivien leigh is wonderful 🌹🌹🌹🌹❤❤❤❤
totally ! "Magnificent Andersons" is outstanding ! One of my top ever.
Great Video! Love it!
Props to VL.....👍
I love to listen to Orson talking about movies.
Great post! Very interesting.
Pretty bold to go up against Sam Goldwyn and win!
@anacletwilliams8315
2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea who Sam Goldwyn was. Such a pity. He must have been of some importance.
@gb2096
2 жыл бұрын
@@anacletwilliams8315 Goldwyn was one of the leading film producers in the history of Hollywood, and founder of several important movie studios.
@anacletwilliams8315
2 жыл бұрын
@@gb2096 Oh I see. So he must be the Goldwyn in Metro Goldwyn Meyer, that now belongs to Amazon, as everything else.
@gb2096
2 жыл бұрын
@@anacletwilliams8315 He is indeed! MGM became a thing when Marcus Lowe bought and combined Goldwyn’s company, Metro Pictures and Louis B. Mayer Pictures - let’s say Lowe was the Amazon of 1924... ;)
@anacletwilliams8315
2 жыл бұрын
@@gb2096 Dear Lord, Mr. Goldwyn must be as old as the Bible.
She was still beautiful at age 45. Sadly, she died suddenly at age 53 in 1967.
@jdbarr769
2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and Grateful
@anacletwilliams8315
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, she died very suddenly. So sad.
@gerardmackay8909
Жыл бұрын
@@anacletwilliams8315 she had tuberculosis the seriousness of which went undiagnosed. She was appallingly neglected by medics treating her
@anacletwilliams8315
Жыл бұрын
@@gerardmackay8909 She probably went to bad doctors.
@gerardmackay8909
Жыл бұрын
@@anacletwilliams8315 undoubtedly
OMG! Two heavyweights going at it. I love it!
"you cannot live on that for 20 years".. . except, y'know.. that's how long it'd been since welles had been allowed to make a properly financed film without hollywood execs sticking their grubby paws in and destroying his work.. some things never change i guess.. . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@atlanteum
2 жыл бұрын
Spot On. "Mr. Welles, the studio heads are all in agreement that, by hijacking your productions, slashing funding, excluding you from the editorial process and completely deleting entire sections of your films... well, it just proves that you, sir, are not a very good writer."
Intriguing clash of wits. It seems incredible that anyone can downplay Welles - especially Kane. Interesting how quickly Leigh comes to his rescue. I am struck by the intense, deep beauty of Leigh. I see the defiant fire in her eyes and realise why she was cast as Scarlett O'Hara. Am also struck by how effective her Georgia accent was in Gone/Wind, given her strong English accent here.
Two classic phrases attributed to Sam Goldwyn: “Include me out!” and “I’ll tell you in two words - Im Possible!” Nice to hear that he would hire Orson Welles as a director. My question is, Why didn’t you? Somewhat ironic that “Chimes At Midnight” came in 1965. In my view, this was Welles’s greatest triumph as actor, writer, and director. He felt the same way!
@jefolson6989
11 ай бұрын
Ive yet to see the whole film., but from the bits i have seen you are probably correct.
Vivian Leigh is a goddess; a gorgeous woman. I loved watching this beauty smoke her cigarettes. She smoked so seductively. Her contract required GWTW producers to supply her with 4 packs of cigarettes daily, 4 packs, probably unfiltered in those days. My girlfriend smokes a lot of cigarettes combined with her pot. I told her that Miss Leigh smoked more than both of us combined. What a woman!
Her voice is so sonorous and strident. Commanding, even. Was that all theatrical training?
What a queen! She acted on her merits. Could have had all pictures lined up for her but chose instead to return to England with Olivier and didn't suffer as she easily got A Streetcar a decade later.
Vivien and Orson had one crucial thing in common: They were both too intelligent for Hollywood.
@bethlogan1283
8 ай бұрын
Every interview she was on in those days was a man trying to demean her. She was more knowledgeable than him.
She was only 45 years old here, woman looked a lot older in those days. I was a mum to a toddler at the same age
@EdDunkle
8 ай бұрын
Cigarettes do that
Like I needed an excuse to love VL more
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I like her🎉
If you look at Vivien here long enough, you're almost seeing Susan Hayward. Wow, she's a dead ringer for Susan here.
She's feisty. She's brilliant. We share the same opinion of Welles. "The Magnificent Ambersons" underrated.
This whole interview was these two being absolute clowns and annoying the shit out of her. She handled it like the badass she was.
Orson peaked at 24. What he accomplished before that time is enough to secure his legend. Greatest radio actor of all time.
@granthurlburt4062
11 ай бұрын
Touch of Evil? The 3rd Man?
@jefolson6989
11 ай бұрын
@@granthurlburt4062 good movies. Not great ones. They did nt change movie making like Kane did.
@maciek8159
11 ай бұрын
@@jefolson6989That's totally bullshit. Touch of evil has one of the best opening scenes ever and changed filmmaking with the long takes aka Scorsese in Goodfellas and Altman in the player. No it wasn't as big as kane but it did contribute a lot too filmmaking.
@jefolson6989
11 ай бұрын
@maciek8159 the famous boom shot opening was nothing new. Although it may have the longest up to that time. Too bad the film is nearly ruined by Hestons bad acting. I love Welles. Just saying with such precocious talent, he had now where to go. His 1st movie was one of the greatest. Eveything else will be a disappointment
@maciek8159
11 ай бұрын
@@jefolson6989 Well uming how can you top citizen kane. Gene siskel talked about that he went backwards with success. But his adaption of Franz Kafka's The Trial was very good I thought. I think it would be hard to translate Kafka's work to film.
I've only watched The Trial by Orson Welles. This movie gave me the creeps, I couldn't understand it, I m glad I didn't watch it very late or it would give me nightmares. I think it was about the corruption in the police and the justice system. The only reason I saw it was the VERY BEAUTIFUL and TALENTED Anthony Perkins.
@gb2096
Жыл бұрын
The Trial is probably Welles’s darkest movie; a fairly faithful adaptation of Franz Kafka’s novel. Thematically atypical for Welles, but visually his stamp is all over it. I think Perkins was great in it!
@dora1980
Жыл бұрын
@@gb2096 👍
viv had verve above n beyond elan vital.
Why this woman went for Olivier will never make any sense at all
.....goldwyn doesn't know what the hell he is talking about ?!?!?!.....George Orson Welles could Direct, Produce, Write, Act, Narrate in Theatre, Radio and Cinema, NOBODY but NOBODY else comes close to him in America !!!.....Charlie Chaplin did however also write his silent picture music scores.....
Orson wasn’t a good writer? Maybe not so apparently in 1958 but saying that today is plain disrespect, even his unmade scripts like The Big Brass Ring are masterpieces
Vivien was hot.
Welles had few cinema equals. And in this interview, Goldwyn seemed like a crazed and perhaps jealous old man.
Welles problem was that he couldn't get along with the people who financed films in Hollywood or the powers that controlled Hollywood. In order to get films made you gotta play the game and kiss the right ass (sort to speak of course). It was beneath him unfortunately
Orson Welles once said in an interview that women should not work because this is "competing" with men and women shouldn't do that. To think that a woman defended him so ardently, not knowing he would never do the same for her.
@gb2096
11 ай бұрын
Never heard that before. If true, that would certainly not be his most charming quote. Then again, he also said there would have been no civilisation without women… He also personally encouraged Jeanne Moreau to become a director, which would have meant “competition” - if that quote is correct, then he certainly didn’t live by it. On your claim that ‘he would never do the same for her’ - he already had. When the tabloids saw her as Laurence Olivier’s pretty sidekick, he was the only one to publicly praise “her greatness as an actress, because of her personality and charm and in spite of her good looks”. Maybe it’s a little ignorant to judge a person on the basis of a single quote.
@m.p.6039
11 ай бұрын
@@gb2096 I once read an old magazine from the beginning of the last century, the sports section was written by a man who believed sports virilize men... and women, and that therefore women should be kept out of them and should stick to ballet and such feminizing things. Then he watched the Olympics and the Japanese team had a female athlete so extraordinary that he, showing his true nature as a genuine sports fan, could not help but compliment her and even said she, by herself, was worth the entire team. If he had been in charge, though, she as a female would never have been allowed to prove to him and the world her worth. He regarded her as the exception that proved the rule. It is always so with misogynists like him, and like Orson Wells. I will always stand by the men who stand by women as a class, not by those who are willing to throw the scrap of one compliment to those they consider the exception.
She's right . Orson produced his own work. A true maverick. Which is of course why he has less . What a terrible pugnacious little false teether jew critic Goldywn actually was. An Atypical exec casting career dysphoria over actual real unbridled talent. Ken T wasn't much better as a chief critic. At least Viv Leigh tells the truth voluminously. I can just imagine her telling Kurk Douglas over lunch Larry won't fuck me anymore
@steveeddy9686
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, did you say 'jew' ?
@kamuelalee
Жыл бұрын
False teether...LOL
Goldwyn was right, though. Welles made a handful of great movies, but in the movie business, which is all about making money, Welles's record is limited. Essentially, his early career was meteoric, but then mediocrity set in.