I live in northwestern state of Oregon. I moved here 20 years ago. My first 10 years was depression, pneumonia, colds. I finally learned the prescribed vit D was not enough for those of us here in Northwest. A nurse told me 5000iu a day at least. I feel alive. My illnesses stopped. My depression gone. Northwest is notorious for low vit D levels.

@daniellem1838

2 жыл бұрын

I live in PNW and daily I take 10,000iu in fall/winter and 5,000iu in spring/summer. I get my levels checked with my doctor to be safe. Edited to add that my levels were around 75, but my doctor said many people he sees are in 20’s!

@betelgeuse6057

2 жыл бұрын

... always the same story ... how much more proof is needed for the obvious?

@yragcom1

2 жыл бұрын

Same type of story here.. Dealt with asthma for years. Couldn't be around animals, dogs cats, etc. because of the dander. Did steroids, inhalers, the whole thing. Finally, a doctor suggested 5000 IUs of D a day. Two weeks in, it all went away, and never came back. This is a respiratory ailment. Not saying Vitamin D is the cure, but it sure wouldn't hurt.

I live in the U.K. And have been taking 10,000iu of vitamin D and K2 every day. I've never felt healthier in my life,and I'm never sick.

@John-Maldonado

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Same dose and even my lower back pain has gone away!

@Spark-Hole

2 жыл бұрын

@@John-Maldonado Vitamin D is good, also I suggest you try Boron it is even better

@anabelaramos8399

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spark-Hole boron, vit D, zinc, K2 and magnesium.

@janineroux2398

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto. Plus K2, melatonin, zinc Vitamin C, carvacrol.. Cross fingers, haven't been ill since 2019

@anabelaramos8399

2 жыл бұрын

@@janineroux2398 yes, carvacrol. No medical advice, I have a mix of essential oils: satureja montana (carvacrol), red thyme, oregano and lemon to treat any damage to the liver. 1 drop each 4 times a day. Plus the vitamines and minerals above, lots of lemon juice and lemon tea with raw honey. Very good oral higyene. If it starts going down to the lungs use a chili balm with essential oils good for muscles, bones and respiratory infections, in the lung/throat area. Inalations with camomile. Probiotics for the gut. Garlick is good. If they don't treat us during the first week we have to do it ourselves, since the first day. Carvacrol is essential Sun Sea water in nose and throat.

The NHS no longer does testing for vitamin D, my doctor told me... They assume everyone's levels are too low... He says they recommend quite a, low dosage... The lack of testing for the exact levels, confounds me

@ConstructiveMinds100

2 жыл бұрын

Because NHS IS designed for the rich influenced people to milk it, not to help people. ....... Jhonatan Pie channel Enjoy it. Not around the meal time as he raises blood pressure😉

Cell signalling doesn't happen without D3 and taking higher levels could cause calcification of the soft tissue, so always add K2 mk7!!

@dalesplitstone6276

2 жыл бұрын

For supplementation D2 can be used instead of D3, but D3 is the form produced from cholesterol and sunshine.

@operamaniak81

2 жыл бұрын

@@dalesplitstone6276 D2 is to D3 like K1 to K2 or beta carotene to retinol. 1) For the same result you have to have way more of provitamin than of the vitamin. 2) The provitamins have different effects than their vitamins. K1 causes blood clothing - K2 directs calcium into bones. D2 makes you sleepless - D3 makes you sleep shorter and deeper. Pro-A causes liver damage and osteoporosis, and vit. A does not. And so on. Don't believe all what vegans say - they think that all the history and biology doesn't matter, so...

@dalesplitstone6276

2 жыл бұрын

@@operamaniak81 You are very close, but K1 is not a provitamin for K2. They have very different functions. K1 is for clotting, while K2 is for calcium regulation. You can not substitute K1 for K2. You can however, substitute K2-MK4 for K2-MK7. The caveauts are that Mk4 must be taken in much higher dosage, and much more often than MK7.

I live in a VERY sunny place in Mexico, I am 51 and I am fit and white ( whites absorb much better vit D bt the sun ) and I was at 13 ng/ml !!!! I started taking 5,000 IU and got it to 45 ng/ml. Then, the variant "Delta " appeared and started taking 10,000 IU a day for 2 months, got tested, and my vit D level is now 92 ng/ml. So, now I am taking 5,000 IU a day and plan to stay in the 60-70 ng/ml. By the way, I got infected December 2020 when my reading was 40ng/ml and it was a VERY easy covid for me, no cough, no oxygen issues. Literally it was almost a walk in the park. I am not vaccinated and I take on a daily basis : zinc, D, C, quercetin, NAC, liposomal glutathione ( NAC is a precursor of glutathione), selenium ( most always forget about this very important mineral! ), vit K2, astaxanthin, and r-lipoic acid. My whole idea ( since there are endless theories about covid) is to take a lot of antioxidants to reduce as much as possible inflamation. The villain here is INFLAMATION. Check your C-reactive protein and IL-6, its cheap and easy.

@erick7brian

2 жыл бұрын

C reactive protein is to check level of inflammation in body?

@wren460

2 жыл бұрын

@@erick7brian yes

@stuarthutt3740

2 жыл бұрын

Great story. D deficiency is a pandemic in all countries. Even equatorial.

Great presentation, but what needs to be emphasized I think is that all (except 1) studies looked only at people with confirmed COVID-19. But how many people with high (enough) vitamin D did get infected and barely noticed it? (And these aren't included in the conclusion of the effect of vitamin D on mortality/severity.) If you would include these people, you'll probably see a hundred to thousand fold difference of severity and mortality risk between deficiency and sufficiency.

@karenf9137

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I would also be curious to see the obese vs. not obese delineated, as obese people can't use their VD very effectively. Good presentation, but RCT's need tweaking.

@susan9188

2 жыл бұрын

The research that has been done suggests that the majority of those hospitalised with Covid 19 had insufficient vitamin D levels. Surprisingly over 75% of people of all ages have inadequate vitamin D levels but they don't know it unless they have a proper blood test to check.

@FuzzyBearYT

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes, or often times, a study or studies will end up creating even more questions than answers. That isn't to detract from the vital information already given. But clearly there is much more to discover about Vit D3. When analysing data, one also needs to think beyond what is said in the data, or think on a deeper level. Doing so, would likely start answering the questions of Karen and Susan. Some things are very hard to study though. Often studies that only take data AFTER a person reaches hospital is too late. But in the presentation above, they show some data of patients long before they entered hospital, which is very revealing.

@betelgeuse6057

2 жыл бұрын

Ecmxactly what I would want to suggest...

@rosiebuddy4763

2 жыл бұрын

We have a friend who in April of 2020 went to donate blood (which he has been doing for years on a regular basis) and found out he had COVID. He had no symptoms at all and was totally unaware that he had it. He never felt sick during the whole duration of the disease. He’s 71 years old, slim and in pretty good shape. He lives in Florida and also has a sailboat in the Virgin Islands that he’s had for at least 20 years. He’s ALWAYS in the sun absorbing vitamin D and has for years. Never wears sunscreen. I really believe that is the reason he just breezed right through Covid like it was nothing.

High body fat increases a person's requirement for vitamin D3 supplementation, since D3 gets sequestered in fat tissue, making it much less available for metabolic functions associated with immune response.

@jasonfoster9118

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. This is why going longer between meals and keeping insulin levels low is so important.

@dorasneddon774

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonfoster9118 absolutely. The fraudulent dietary advice of 50-odd years ago is the big elephant in this room... it's made people fat and sick... and they've been blamed for their plight, when they followed public health advice. Many doctors know - but are compelled to keep stating the scientifically bankrupt, low fat, high carb advice to patients. It is a scandal of gigantic proportions.

@wocket42

Жыл бұрын

The reverse may also be true. Losing weight/burning fat makes a lot of vit d available. Fasting when sick therefore may help.

Magnesium activates vitamin D3. So it would be interesting to know how much magnesium was in patients' system at the time of the blood draw.

@Phasma6969

2 жыл бұрын

Intracellular magnesium concentration ABSOLUTELY!!!!

I started taking D3/K2 a few years ago because it was discovered that my level was only 11. I was sick constantly but once my levels raised (and it took a while) I rarely do now. My last blood draw showed a level of 70. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that when I had Covid it only lasted a couple is days compared to my husband being much sicker since his levels are in the 30’s which his Dr says are within the normal range.

I think it would be interesting to see results of such studies that also factor in age and comorbidities of the cases that died .

Here's a recording of a live watch party where I watched this video with my audience, and stopped to present the slides I had skipped at AHS due to time constraints, and answered questions in the live chat: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gHiXms6Jft2pcrw.html

@wocket42

Жыл бұрын

Should be top comment.

So basically you need to have your levels up before you get sick. Playing catchup by heavy doses upon infection will take at least 5 days before it'll give you any benefits.

@yragcom1

2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Berg has a video about this. He believes that megadosing up 10K might not even do it for weeks. Look it up.

@user-pv3vp1cw7g

2 жыл бұрын

weeks

@yragcom1

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-pv3vp1cw7g And honest;y, most could probably do 10K a day normally. Getting to 20K a day and up is where you could start to see some problems after a few weeks to a few months.

@jerseyjim9092

2 жыл бұрын

Fwiw, Dr Gundry says at the first sign of sickness, he takes 150k iu Vit D3 daily for 3 days (450k total).

@yragcom1

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerseyjim9092 that sounds a little low. You might have those numbers wrong. You should be taking anywhere from 5k to 10k IUs everyday. That's two small tablets of the good stuff. I don't know anything about mass dosing when you get sick, I know that that 5 to 10, 000 iu daily dose is a good daily standard to keep up.

When it comes to cause or effect, would you not give a sick person water if you couldn't prove he was thirsty before he got sick? And would you not recommend people to stay hydrated until they start showing symptoms of dehydration? The recommendations on vitamin d are so stupid. If the same measures were applied to smoking, we would still say we haven't proven that smoking causes cancer. And that there is no point in quitting smoking until you show symptoms, like coughing blood. Thank God we have moved further on smoking. But when it comes to vitamin d we are still in the dark.

@mtbin2650

2 жыл бұрын

You couldn’t be further from the truth. The information on Vit D, did not come out of left field. There is quite a body of pre Covid studies that demonstrate the actual mechanism that D plays in T cell formation and cellular mediated immunity and those studies show that D is absolutely essential to T cell formation. This is a very simple connecting of the scientific dots and it is now show that cellular mediated immunity is crucial for Covid and those that have a well functioning cellular mediated immune response have little to no Covid symptoms and develop little to no antibodies. So these studies go right along with information that already existed prior to Covid.

@ivartangring3392

2 жыл бұрын

@@mtbin2650 I think you somehow overlooked that we agree on this.

@mtbin2650

2 жыл бұрын

@@ivartangring3392 I reread it. You’re right. My bad.

@ivartangring3392

2 жыл бұрын

@@mtbin2650 Stay on your toes man, but do re-read when not 100% sure! 😉

Sun > UVB > D3 (Cholecalciferol) > Calcitriol > Cathilicidin (Anti Microbial Peptide) = destruction of enveloped viruses, bacteria and fungi? Could obesity (metabolic disfunction) inhibit D3?

@chrismasterjohn

2 жыл бұрын

It does, but it's also known to do a bunch of other things that contribute to worse COVID outcomes (particularly inflammation, but probably also physical limitations on breathing).

@StandAloneState

2 жыл бұрын

This makes sense given CDC’s report claiming 78% of all covid hospitalizations are overweight/obese people

@jonahbert111

2 жыл бұрын

Well yeah, fat is a sponge for vitamin D, as "D" is a fat soluble vitamin. So it is known that obese people are pretty much guaranteed to be vitamin D deficient.

Good presentation Chris. Love your work!

@chrismasterjohn

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Will the presenter consider doing a presentation on the negative impact HFC (High Fructose Corn) syrup on Vit D? I've seen a number of studies/presentations that suggest HFC "inactivates" (I might not have the right word) vit -D in the body. Given that many US foods (frozen / packaged) have HFC in lieu of real sugar, does consuming such food have a negative impact on Vit D in the body?

So adding K2 to the vitamine D treatment halts risk of calcification. Is there a confirmation that vitamine D intake raises uptake of calsium twentyfold?

if every body knew that by augmenting your D3 level correctly (I took 100 000 iu/day for 5 months and then switched to 35 000/day) all other medicines/treatments for BIG-C, bloodpressure, depression, joint inflammations, insuline resistance, hormone disbalance, sleeplessness and more would vanish away. but this would be a big trouble for BIG PH..MA

Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

Just one important thing on taking vitamin D You need to take it while or right after eating as it's fat soluble Absorption rates can vary so you should get your levels checked. Also obesity levels impact levels You should take K2 with it

I wonder how much of the low incidence of Vitamin D is due to encouraging the public to slather up with sunblock?

@wocket42

Жыл бұрын

Sun blockers are needed when the skin is poisoned with omega 6 seed oil fats.

With regard to the U-shaped curve, the diminished sample size as NG increases would be counter indicated. As a lower percentage goes into the hospital, a higher fraction of that percentage dying could strongly indicate other factors at work in those deaths.

C-19 won't go away becasue of the poor general health of the vast majority of the population. Vit-D3 isn't the only nutrient that modern populations is lacking in. K2, Zinc, Magnesium, C et al.

@kathleentaylor8840

2 жыл бұрын

Zinc is poison. Increase vitamin K2 as MK-7 dose to 300 mcg daily instead.

@tobygathergood4990

2 жыл бұрын

@@kathleentaylor8840 Metallic Zinc is poisonous. Dietary organic Zinc is considered to be relatively nontoxic, particularly if taken orally. However, manifestations of overt toxicity symptoms (nausea, vomiting, epigastric pain, lethargy, and fatigue) will occur with extremely high zinc intakes.

@eugeniebreida1583

2 жыл бұрын

With meat eaters low zinc is rare. But higher zinc does cause virus more trouble replicating, etc . They are foes!

Given the half life of various states of vitamin D in the body, giving one high dose is nonsense, giving a dose every 24 hours makes more sense. Also if we look for preventive effect, better compare people supplementing with vitamin D on the long run vs those not supplementing. We can not put in the same bag the exploration of long term supplements, with curative treatment at the time of infection. Also : since in ICU all organs are under stress, if you give there a treatment that require functional liver and kidneys, what do you expect ? Everything in health care comes to preventive or early treatment being best. If you are days after symptoms onset, you are very late.

@PLeejo

2 жыл бұрын

Same issue of organ stressed by the time you hit ICU, for ivermectin colchicine, fluvoximine. They set up data to provi what they want and few if any know how to ask questions about it.

@erick7brian

2 жыл бұрын

@@PLeejo yup all these drugs mist be taken at earliest onset of symptoms

Finding vit d3 but not with k2 in my country unfortunately

I would hope that Chris Masterjohn would soon be including at least a brief explanation of the findings of low D levels in serum and a plethora of autoimmune diseases in the Northern/Southern Hemispheres, as they are becoming rampant. I suppose with the new age of indoor living (computer use) even equatorial regions are much more at risk. Take your D! (K, A, etc - btw, I'd appreciate educated input as to the need to balance out D supplementation with other lipid soluble vits, in particular that Vit A - ?? thanks)

In your presentation you reference D levels in ng/ml. My quest test VITAMIN D3, 1,25 (OH)2 uses pg/ml as the unit of measure. What is correct? Does the ng/ml number come from a different test? If so, is there a conversation?

@ryanfeeley2407

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is a different test and there is no conversion. Vitamin D 1, 25-Dihydroxy is commonly measured in pg/mL, but a normal result doesn't rule out a deficiency. The preferred test thst you should ask for is Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy, which is measured in ng/mL.

@ryanfeeley2407

2 жыл бұрын

If that test was ordered for you by a competent doc, there might be something about you that makes 1,25 a better test, but if that was just included as part of you ordering off the menu, get the D, 25 test.

@robc6883

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanfeeley2407 Thanks!! I asked for a D3 test not knowing there were different tests and that is what he added. My number is 55 and is in the middle of the green Quest scale. I'll see if he'll order the other one at my next physical.

@ryanfeeley2407

2 жыл бұрын

@@robc6883 Glad to help. Afaik, there isn't a reason to specifically ask for D3 (cholecalciferol) unless you are getting D2 in your diet (either in pill form, or in fortified bread, plant based milks, or mushrooms) and want to eliminate the influence if that on the test results. Which I guess could be interesting to see. If all your vitamin D coming from the sun or D3 supplements I think you can just do the stsndard D,25 hydroxy test since there won't be any meaningful D2 for it to pick up. (not a doctor:))

@ryanfeeley2407

2 жыл бұрын

The test your doc ordered is for the active hormonal form of D3, so I could see him/her maybe not understanding your goals. That test isn't very helpful for confirm adequate vitamin D stores since hormone levels can fluctuate a lot as they do their jobs. The D,25 test measures the "raw materials" if you will.

Very relevant, well nuanced.

I was taking 5000 iu of D3 per day. My wife got Covid. We shared same bed for 7 days before I finally got covid. At 68 yo, my covid was very mild, only experienced aches for 7 days. Had no fever, no upper respiratory issues & no loss of appetite. The flu I had several years before was 100x worse.

6000/day for a year, in 71 yr old male, = D level smack MID therapeutic range, no where near toxic. Going to 8000 for fall/winter

@erick7brian

2 жыл бұрын

Do you take k2 along with it?

@PLeejo

2 жыл бұрын

@@erick7brian one of us takes a D3, K2 combo & one the D & K separately.

I wonder why is it very difficult to get funded for these studies of vitamin D

@Nonduality

2 жыл бұрын

I can't imagine why. I'm sure that the warm and kind heart of BIG PHARMA would love to promote a cheap, easily available remedy for so many dysfunctions.

@lawrencestovall7680

2 жыл бұрын

All about the money.

Always good to wait while people are dying, Like as a fireman I always first drink my koffie, maybe the water could increase the fire. We have to do investegations.

Where I live it's extremely difficult to get hold of vit k2 and if I do they are quite expensive.

@moniquefleming3738

2 жыл бұрын

@Osamah Kiwan can you order on Amazon? VitD /K2 drops with MTC oil is $22.00 for two bottles. 5000IU of VitD per dropper. Just type it into the Amazon search engine.

@osamahkiwan85

2 жыл бұрын

@@moniquefleming3738 I live in Bangladesh. As far as my knowledge goes Amazon doesn't deliver here.

@PLeejo

2 жыл бұрын

@@osamahkiwan85 here the cost of k2 is much cheaper than intensive care unit treatment.

@natalliask

2 жыл бұрын

Fermented foods have vit k 2

Great video. I wish everyone would watch this with an open mind but they always "follow the science" instead.

Usually Chris gives a great talk, but this one was not very helpful. Vitamin D status is important for overall health and immunity. This has been known way before Covid.

@yragcom1

2 жыл бұрын

If it were REALLY known, 70% of all Americans wouldn't be Vitamin D deficient. This is the REAL pandemic.

@aprilek6003

2 жыл бұрын

@@yragcom1 70% of Americans are vitamin d deficient because doctors don't look for it vitamin d is important for all things not just immunity to viruses it's another failure on our supposed healthcare system

@janetkelly7114

2 жыл бұрын

Not to UK health leaders

Bravo.

so do i take vitamin D if i have covid? yes or no?

@SteveRCPilot

2 жыл бұрын

You should yes but ideally you would understand that based on where you live and the fact that modern human spend most hours indoors you should take vitamin d everyday for the rest of your life and therefore you will have taken vitamin D before you get sick.

@agaspversilia

2 жыл бұрын

You should be taking it always, daily, regardless covid or no covid

@TheStriker0525

2 жыл бұрын

@@agaspversilia you don't need to if you go outside.

EXCELLENT!

Vit D, zinc, C, K2, and quercetin.

I wish this guy would make his point obvious, I'll keep taking 10000iu a day.

@cosmichealth3907

2 жыл бұрын

Keep up with full fat butter

@gruber1650

2 жыл бұрын

@@cosmichealth3907 will do, no plastic margarine crap in my fridge.

@jenniferh7297

2 жыл бұрын

do you take K2 with it to prevent calcium in soft tissues?

@cosmichealth3907

2 жыл бұрын

@@jenniferh7297 not necessary....u can consume foods that contain k2...apple cider vinegar will help along with pottasium and magnesium

@gruber1650

2 жыл бұрын

@@jenniferh7297 yes I do Jennifer along with magnesium, Vit C, Vit E, Q10, omega 3, and lycopene, must say I feel better after 3 months on Symprove as well.

Need to factor in obesity when dosing may need 3x more if obese as fat absorbs and stores Vitamin D

NYC Mount Sinai study should be discarded because most hospitalized patients were put on Remdesivir during those days.

I take 10000/day and my levels are at 52

Vitamin D??? But Canada's health minister Patty Hadju said it is fake news!! 🙄 Who hires these people??

@stuarthutt3740

2 жыл бұрын

She got her degree online.

I whish the U-shape was a bit further addressed. High to very high 25(OH)D is rarely seen in western population so who are these people? The reason I want to know is because he shows a potential U-shaped association (not causation!). The group of people in this category is very low. 1) Are we looking at a small distinct group of metabolically unfit people who, for whatever reason, spend a lot of time outside? 2) One other possibility could be some genetic abnormality which causes you to be a bad converter of 25(OH)D to the needed active form calcitriol 3) Keeping all options open.. either 25(OH)D is toxic at such high levels or calcitriol is and there is a negative feedback so that the liver reduces conversion to calcitriol I would guess on (2) because iirc the symptoms of the very high and the very low are very similar pointing to the same shortage of calcitriol, the active form. If the problems come from shortage rather than abundance then we won't see any healthy people in ICU who have high levels because they work outside all the time getting plenty of sunshine.

@chrismasterjohn

2 жыл бұрын

I showed every single paper published that provided any information at all about the U-shaped curve. I looked at all data in these more than 100 studies for any potential insights and showed you every single piece of it. There's no way to know if those people were unfit, but we do know that vitamin D is toxic above a certain range, so it doesn't really need an explanation for why >100 ng/mL would be harmful. The toxicity is due to 25(OH)D and calcitriol combined, both of which are active on VDR. 25(OH)D is 1000 times less active, but is present at 1000 times the concentration, and during vitamin D toxicity it is even more disproportionately elevated.

@chriscapablanca3491

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrismasterjohn So many other factors are at play as well. A high-carb society, which is now most people in the world, is the pool of people all studies are sampling from. So the pool of people are most likely not getting adequate amounts of vitamin K-2. The link between D and K-2 is clear. If the link between D and K-2 is as strong as I personally think it is, then there is the possibility that ALL these studies are still useful but have a major flaw in them.

@jenniferh7297

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriscapablanca3491 May I ask how much K2 is correct in relation to 1,000 iu D3?

Take vitamin D WITH vitamin K2!!

His denial of God's existence reinforces that I should keep taking my 4000 iu Vitamin D3 a day.

@PLeejo

2 жыл бұрын

Prolly 6000

/makes presentation at Ancestry Foundation to very aware of reality audience (at least on the internet), quotes 'ambulances going past all day' when the hospitals were practically empty as shown in countless videos and testimonies and speaks to '400 deaths per day' when deaths from comorbidities were being misattributed to covid,. when the test is completely unreliable. Not confidence inspiring, to say the least. At least beyond the spin, there was plenty of data.

This is bullshit. Believe me.

Destroyed his credibility immediately with references to that useless old proven wrong theory of evolution right off the bat! Its a mystery to me why anyone would want to use references that have no bearing on the subject to support whatever information they want to convey! If they must talk about origins in support of their talk they would be much better served giving god the credit as the learned man in the bible did when he declared i am fearfully and wonderfully made!