Those numbers look absolutely incredible :o Saving this video for when i will setup my new pico 4!

10bit made more of a difference than i expected. I also tried local dimming on the quest pro, but like I had trouble actually seeing a difference unless I look at something completly black. But yeah like it looks very black when local dimming is on, dunno how different it feels in stuff like hl alyx, the 10 bit on the other hand.

Yes !! This worked for me way better then the + Ive been mainly running AMS2 and im super happy with the visuals and performance. Now i want to look into more VR games =) im gonna give Skyrim a try. Ive never played it VR so =)

For the ones who have next gen cards, how does AV1 compare?

Latest (as in from yesterday I think) Nvidia drivers OK, or is there a specific version that is best for VR/this update?

@virtuallyreal

11 ай бұрын

Whatever is latest 👍

Can the displays do real 10bit?

Does anyone know if it works with AMD gpus yet?

Which router do you have? And what setting from the router.

@virtuallyreal

11 ай бұрын

A pretty old (but decent) WiFi 5 router. Linksys ea9500. No special settings as such, the VR is the only thing on its higher band WiFi, no other devices use it, wired by ethernet to PC. Channel it's using is completely clear and not overlapped with any other signals. No band steering or any other features enabled, just set as a WiFi access point. Always just worked! Very big router with alot of antennas, has amazing WiFi range.

Have you tried this with the Pico 4? Just wondering if this VD update removes the need for displayport?

@virtuallyreal

11 ай бұрын

Yes, I still use my neo 3 link display port over Pico 4 on PC, no streaming through app will really be able to match that unless making the display port side wireless (nofio / vive wireless adapter)

@utuberjack1

Ай бұрын

​@@virtuallyreal hey do u find the pico neo 3 link to be "shaky" at all? If so how did u fix this? I love the image quality of the HMD but whenever i look around i get a weird shaky jitteryness that breaks the immersion for me.

Hi! For Better image and clearly pixels, Is Better hevc 10bit at 150 mbs or h264+ at 300/400 mbs? Thanks

@virtuallyreal

3 ай бұрын

10bit is better in darker or more open situations that you notice colour banding in, as it helps that H264+ at higher settings will retain distance details better than HEVC and hevc10bit and is useful in faster motion which can cause the HEVC and hevc10bit image to break down. Really does depend on what your playing, personally I always use hevc10bit

@srwmuseum

3 ай бұрын

@@virtuallyreal fs2020 , Robocop, no Man's Sky. And thanks for your useful answer! 😊

Does the Q2 still have better picture quality via usb 3 cable connection than this air method?

@virtuallyreal

9 ай бұрын

Oculus link (cable) can do 500ish max at ''tolerable'' latency but that's h264, so you still see colour banding which you can't solve even bumping up bitrate to what people say 960mb is the max, which becomes basically unplayable for me with latency at the cost of a very small gain in image. Personally if I have to do pcvr streaming by WiFi or usb, I'm using virtual desktop HEVC 10 bit mode at higher refresh rates

@atriusvinius319

9 ай бұрын

@@virtuallyreal Thanx. So DP connection is the best and air connection most likely will always be worse than DP ?

@virtuallyreal

9 ай бұрын

@@atriusvinius319 sadly it still many more years until streaming can match a display port. Closest solutions so far are the Vive wireless and nofio for index, but they both have their own compromises to visuals but the tracking data doesn't get any delay being lighthouse based. I wish headsets would just offer the extra port to allow proper display port, I don't think anyone wouldn't want to pay a little extra for that, seems wasteful that you have higher and higher resolutions, better lenses, yet still streaming from the pc 😔

@atriusvinius319

9 ай бұрын

@@virtuallyreal i wd pay extra for such an option (DP). I mostly play pcvr and always seated, so i dont mind to be tethered. I want the best image possible. Fortunatelly there are Crystal and Beyond. And may be Valves Deckard that i hope will have DP

@fsxspen

9 ай бұрын

@@virtuallyreal Can you run virtual desktop HEVC 10 bit mode via the USB Link cable?

How do I fix my issue, my latency on my Quest 2 for Virtual Desktop is at < 400 ms..

@QuestNation3221

Ай бұрын

Are you wired to your pc with an internet cable, and are you using the 5GHz channel on your dedicated router without having anything work connected to it?

I am wondering why they named this 264+ not 265, which supposed to be 10bit HEVC. But still it must be some serious fidelity bump to image quality and compression, even if games are still using 8bit textures or lower. Maybe some day I will finally try VD. It is possible to set 5Ghz hotspot from PC instead of connecting through 5Ghz router to get it work?

@mjcox242

11 ай бұрын

ok so lemme explain 264+ is just normal H264 with a higher max bitrate, its just seperated as it needs a pristine network to work properly, HVEC is 265, HVEC-10Bit sends a 10 bit image Also question about using windows hotspot is don't, it functions however its only really supported to have a dedicated router using gigabit ethernet

@juu226

11 ай бұрын

@@mjcox242 ok, thanks 🙂

@Kraeuterbutter

11 ай бұрын

in a forum, someone tested it: 5Ghz HGotspot with his PC -> didn´t work good at all... he spend hours to fix it (registry mods etc.) - no success.. i didn´t believe it realy, so i tried it for my self with my motherboard: MSI 570s Carbon MAX Wifi result: instead of 1200Mbps what i get with my 60 Euro router (sometimes dropping to 1080 or 960Mbps) i only thet 170Mbps down to 140Mbps with the 5Ghz Wifi with the motherboard.. so - as everybody says: dont wait time trying it.. does not work good at all

@JoseFcoBN

11 ай бұрын

TP-Link Archer TX20U Plus AX1800

quest 3 is crazy!!!😲

With Pico 4 or Quest, 3 if you have to choose, H264+ 300mbs or HVEC 10 bits 150mbs? What do you preffer? I cant see differences, I want better quality and Idk what choose. Thank you!

@virtuallyreal

7 ай бұрын

10bit gets rid of colour banding so is better in darker areas or open clear sky, it's what I choose to use. If you need to retain details in fast motion like SIM racing, then max h264+

@josemenendez1465

7 ай бұрын

​@@virtuallyrealthankss

@mostwanted2000

7 ай бұрын

But the Pico 4 and Quest 3 are not 10 bit panels, so maybe is just a bandwidth waste. But I'll have to try also. Thanks for the video!

@mostwanted2000

7 ай бұрын

I tried Half Life Alyx with both HVEC AND HVEC 10BIT on Quest 3 but I can't see any difference.. maybe because it'a a shitty 8 bit panel. Also I don't have your beautiful contrast 😕

@virtuallyreal

7 ай бұрын

@@mostwanted2000 there is certainly a difference, especially darker areas or things such as the sky. 10bit is just the encoding, it's a trick to retain those lost details when streaming, no headset has proper 10bit support, there will be no colour or contrast differences because of 10bit, just more uniform colours that don't have banding between shades

How do you get low latency . me get 50-60 with usb-c

@virtuallyreal

7 ай бұрын

Usb tethering? VD doesn't support that so may be introducing some latency

@thedeepgroup1993

7 ай бұрын

Oh you use Usb tethering right okay i will try@@virtuallyreal

@Armis71

6 ай бұрын

@@thedeepgroup1993 No mate, he's using the Virtual Desktop application, meaning he's on a wireless connection. You can get 35-45ms latency quite easily with wireless using a Wifi 6 (5ghz) router. Just the PC and your headset on that router together, and nothing else.

@thedeepgroup1993

6 ай бұрын

I got it just use Mi wifi 6 easy low latency and graphic is full setting @@Armis71

What's your GPU ?

@davidvincent380

9 ай бұрын

Got it, you have a 3080ti founders 🙂

The audio is too quiet!

@virtuallyreal

11 ай бұрын

Direct recording from headset, not as loud as KZreadrs sorry