Yall new here? Lmao. Dave is Dave.

Phone companies keep all records. They can be accessed anytime. I did jury duty for a murder case & this was explained to us in court.

@thechipperchop

14 күн бұрын

Fairly common knowledge that is apparently beyond these wrestling “journalists” lmao

@michaelmansini2307

14 күн бұрын

Not in a civil case

@sdd619

14 күн бұрын

@@michaelmansini2307 he had a federal investigation on him. They will go through everything. They would have done it to decide if it would be a criminal case. Even if the lawsuit don't go to court. He could still be charged if they believe he did a crime. It would be less likely without the lawsuit.

@thechipperchop

14 күн бұрын

@@michaelmansini2307 they can subpoena phone records in a civil case.

Vince can delete text messages all he wants. A judge can order text messages from the cell company data base, coming from a former T-Mobile employee

@mellycone5317

14 күн бұрын

His old self doesn’t know that 😂

@HectorGonzalez-gb2qj

14 күн бұрын

Let’s say example DONT worry about Janel Grants response for a second. That lawsuit showing Vince McMahon texts narrative. That’s DAMAGING enough to value that civil lawsuit into the MILLION I’d say a high numbers best case scenario for Janel grants perspective I wouldn’t at all be surprised she gets $1 billion dollars.

@580Hector

14 күн бұрын

Unless it’s an iPhone

@colelatshaw2317

10 күн бұрын

Serious follow up as I’m neither a cell data expert nor legal expert. Could a judge only do that in a criminal trial or could this be done for a civil matter?

@HectorGonzalez-gb2qj

10 күн бұрын

@@colelatshaw2317 This could be DONE in either a civil or criminal suit, that’s why your seeing WWE and Vince McMahon seek a private arbitration

Dave please let bryan speak 🤣🤣🤣

@dezze0n

14 күн бұрын

this is Dave show if u want more Bryan watch Bryan & Vinny or observer live, Bryan does alot of shows and this one is in the morning so he doesn't talk much

@yosefvargasx

14 күн бұрын

​@@dezze0nthen just have dave alone then ? 2 hosts mean 2 speakers

@GhostJamm

14 күн бұрын

​@@yosefvargasx Bryan handles the technical things. Dave wouldn't have a clue how to run any equipment.

@BainesMkII

14 күн бұрын

@@yosefvargasx Bryan is there to keep Dave remotely on topic, and to at the least call out Dave's worst takes. Let Dave speak for 20 minutes without any oversight at all, and who knows what he'll be talking about by the end. Or what he's ultimately claimed.

@5Starrr

14 күн бұрын

Shut Up Dave😂😂😂😂

Vince you been gone, I can breathe for the first time. I’m so moving on, yeah, yeah. Thanks to you, now I get what I want. Vince you been gone…

Let Vince finish his story just like Cody Rhodes

The more I hear about this, the more I think this is just extortion on Grant's part after Vince stopped paying her.

@cameron3578

10 күн бұрын

It really is. She's a grifter playing the victim part because according to modern society, women are always victims.

So Vince deletes her texts, but keeps her love letters? That tells you something right there. Always thinking ahead.

@mr.c4p

4 күн бұрын

deleting texts takes 0.5 seconds. the letters are probably stored somewhere and getting to them might require some sort of effort. why would getting rid of physical paper letters she wrote him be a top priority? the phone, he's looking at all day. normally when you break up with someone, you do delete their number/texts. men tend to do that, anyway.

“Best” case scenario is that Vince entered into a consensual relationship with someone who he then hired at his publicly traded company, had group sex with her and another employee during work hours at the office, shared explicit stories and pictures of her with other employees during work hours, used her as a sexual bargaining chip while negotiating an employment agreement with yet another employee and then used company money to pay her off. It’s still totally abhorrent and inexcusable behavior.

@happyd9733

13 күн бұрын

also in that case, she is a liar, which is what vince appears to want to come out before writing her a 9 figure cheque.

I’m very interested to hear Vince’s full story. I don’t believe it but he deserves to speak on it and I’m curious to hear it

@antonycuff4512

14 күн бұрын

why would you believe grant ? she has been caught lying and concealing evidence .

@tomofthepops

14 күн бұрын

Yeah it's kinda like listening to hulk hogan's lies, you wanna see how far he goes with them

@antonycuff4512

14 күн бұрын

@@tomofthepops it doesn't matter what either of them say it matters what they can prove .

And we should hear his story. Everyone deserves to hear both sides… look at the evidence and make their own decision from there.

@keni95851

14 күн бұрын

"everyone deserves" to hear about it? Since when? Because hes a public figure?

@1986Cochran

14 күн бұрын

@@keni95851 everyone just assuming he’s guilty… yes his side needs to be heard … that’s how America used to work

@jasonhamon8005

14 күн бұрын

Stop being reasonable!! That's not allowed in the iwc!!!

@1986Cochran

14 күн бұрын

@@keni95851 you don’t wanna hear both sides of the story? You just wanna assume guilt?

@keni95851

14 күн бұрын

@@1986Cochran I don't think im entitled to anything.

Forensics can easily recover deleted messages off of a phone.

@billyburleson6238

13 күн бұрын

Exactly

It’s uhm uhm uhm my turn to talk and uhm uhm you know no one gets to speak until uhm uhm I’m through rambling.

According to Dave's logic at the end, the way to get a NDA voided is to completely break the terms, compelling the other party to also break the NDA. As a result, all terms of the NDA would just get thrown out? Shouldn't the person who first broke the terms be held accountable?

@happyd9733

13 күн бұрын

100 percent

The problem is that Vince all too often wanted far more than just his story out.

I’m watching/following this on Law & Crime network & Court TV. It just 🤯

Dave spending 18 minutes to say 'we'll wait and see'

@gerardsanders3225

14 күн бұрын

Thank you for that synopsis, I made it four minutes and had to call it.

No one wants to hear from Poo Daddy

Once deleted, they can only be accessed with a warrant.

@garyofox

14 күн бұрын

Even if they’re your texts, your phone

@six6thdisciple

14 күн бұрын

DEFINITELY

I wonder if Bryan ever feels like telling Dave to STFU. I know I do. He goes on for 10 minutes & says absolutely nothing.

@dezze0n

14 күн бұрын

Bryan does alot of shows and this one is in the morning so he takes the backseat

@TonkyTronicus

14 күн бұрын

I know what you're talking about, so, you know, but then the other guy... and you know again I'm not saying this, but some people ARE saying it... and you know, but there are 2 sides to every story, and you know, so now its really about the judge, and you know, I'm hearing many things from different people, and, you know, but really it is a difficult situation.

@kena322

12 күн бұрын

Especially since he rudely cuts him off just to stagger through a bunch of incomplete sentences

Meltzer atleast say something clearly without adding " I don't know"

@user-gd6gr5nv7g

14 күн бұрын

and you know

@MyChannel-ol1zz

14 күн бұрын

Listen

The cell phone provider will have a log of the texts.. Jesus, grandpas

@omnientertainment5852

14 күн бұрын

Yup

I wonder what Dave and Bryan think about Lee Cole (Brother of Tom Cole deceased ring boy) having evidence on Mel Phillips and Billy Graham's deposition.

@antonycuff4512

14 күн бұрын

that has nothing to do with this case .

@internationalchannel4life270

14 күн бұрын

@@antonycuff4512 What are you talking about? If this goes to court, you don't think they will bring it up?

@ChristopherR44

14 күн бұрын

Evidence of what?

@antonycuff4512

14 күн бұрын

@@internationalchannel4life270 is tom cole or his brother mentioned in grant's lawsuit as part of her case ?

@governorerbe839

14 күн бұрын

If you listen to Lee's podcast for 5 minutes you'll understand why he isn't mentioned.

Doesn't vince know they can find those deleted text messages lol ... this crazy lawsuit

There’s never been a book in history I would like to read more than a Vince McMahon shoot style biography and get his take on all the stories you heard over the years that would be one of if not the greatest book in wrestling history even though I’m sure it would never happen

Now he wants it out. Now that he's had months to fabricate a fake story.

@cameron3578

10 күн бұрын

Or... Now that he's had months to let the initial shock and outrage of the accusations to die down and people would be more open to hearing both sides?

@brianboese9884

5 күн бұрын

@@cameron3578 Let me ask you this. If you were wrongly accused of the things Vince was would you seriously sit back and be that strategic about it? I wouldn't! I would be shooting off every day about how and why she's lying.

Unfortunately for those who want to see Vince brought to justice: The odds of prosecution tank significantly in the presence of a civil suit, as it's much more difficult to prosecute someone who had to pay a civil judgement as juries look at the defense as if they've already been punished. It's also much easier to win a civil judgement, so many victims choose to sue if the DA tells them the odds of winning the case aren't great. All that said, if Federal prosecutors bring charges, it's nearly always a slam dunk. Their conviction rate is over 99%.

Dave should join the Elite as a heel manager.

“Dave Rambles for 18 minutes on speculation” There I fixed your title.

Even if Vince deleted the text messages, the carriers can get subpoenas to recover them from their records.

@sandyunderpants4376

14 күн бұрын

I really doubt they store every persons text history going back years.

Isn't the initial contract that would pay her 3M but wasn't completely honored the real issue? If it's valid, Vince needs to shell 2M he hasn't paid

So Vince might actually have some receipts after all. Interesting stuff.

Vince wants to excrete his story, so it stays on people's minds.

@johngallagher72

14 күн бұрын

And in their hair.

Only Vince McMahon can be accused of what he's being accused of and think there's still not enough attention on him.

I’m sorry but we never would have heard anything from her if Vince would’ve paid her and I’m not a woman but when you choose money over dignity I have a hard time believing what she has said.

😂🤦‍♂️🤨 Dude I want to be a FLY on that wall on the Mchmahons family thxgiving holyyyy shit!!!!! This is beyond of a WOWWWWW 🤨🤦‍♂️😂

@qoaa

14 күн бұрын

Vince - "Thanksgiving is gonna be such good shit!" Steph - "Dad, please tell me you didn't shit on the turkey again."

@johngallagher72

14 күн бұрын

Lol ...today sir with this Vince and the turkey comment you have once again proven that the Internet can win wars. Today you have won that war. 😅😂

This video gets 2.25 stars!!!

@shredenvain7

14 күн бұрын

Why are you here doing this in every Meltzer video if you hate this guy and channel so much? Why not go watch something you enjoy?

@BonifideGreatness

14 күн бұрын

​@shredenvain7 why are you defending someone that doesn't care for your well being you aew 💩 💩 stans are the worse

@anantuppal7

14 күн бұрын

😂

@hookback

14 күн бұрын

@@shredenvain7 Naah, this is hilarious when someone does this kind of thing.

@shredenvain7

14 күн бұрын

@@hookback sure maybe the 1st time but day after day it begins to turn from funny to pathetic. It's a giant waste of time to devote so much time to hating and trolling on things.

FINISH YOUR STORY VINCE 😂

@user-ey5sf7mu2r

13 күн бұрын

FINISH THE STORY

Chewbacca doesnt make any sense. I get southpark vibes from Vince's lawyers

Dave went in complete circles. Also, Vince is lying. Nobody would delete these received messages.

@cameron3578

10 күн бұрын

Uh...most people would

In my opinion Vince settling is an admission of guilt. I think if he was truly innocent he would fight this until the bitter end.

JFC Dave, can you just make your point without going on a meandering tangent for 10 minutes?

@PierceTravels

14 күн бұрын

Dave doesn't read youtube comments

@ComicBookBob

14 күн бұрын

@PierceTravels I know, still...gonna give me an aneurysm.😵‍💫

@ReivzDiMasterMind

14 күн бұрын

Idk how Brian puts up with it and his constant mid sentence interruptions.

@Johnnycpublic

14 күн бұрын

well uuhh hmm you know

@bfunderb5899

14 күн бұрын

Impossible

Dave: "He probably shouldn't be the head of a major prowrestling company." No sh!t Dave, don't think that's the point.

I don’t believe Vince acted appropriately, but I think Janel Grant may have been more of a co conspirator than a victim.

Dave sometimes just won't let Bryan talk, and then all he ever says is "its interesting"

This is definitely a he said she said case ...

Now do one on jerichovid

"He wants his story out." Oh I didn't know he was a fantasy writer. 😅

They can get text messages directly from the phone company

I've watched enough ID true crime shows that I know forensic computer people can find anything deleted. Nothing is ever truly deleted...except if you're Broken Matt Hardy 😂

So he didn’t delete the pictures lol

The texts are likely still there at the very least on the companies servers. Normal text messages go from your, to your phone company and then the person they were intended for. In ALL MOST ALL CASES, the company retains a copy. With an Android the texts will still be in the cloud unless removed from there.. I am over Vince. His own dark BS has caught up with him. As if Vince has been faithful to anyone in his life. Rich a#$holes.

Wondering what johnny ace side saying???

with every video on this topic, you can feel the disappointment of dave building because it's becoming clear that ms grant's story has holes in it...

with vinces thing about putting real life things in storylines wonder what storylines if any this would have been in

Anne did an interview 2 days after the filing…it’s on KZread Dave lol

I know people joke about it and all, but can whoever is in charge of this radio show PLEASE get Dave Meltzer to shut up and quit interrupting. I cannot believe a person of his age does not understand basic etiquette, but it's ridiculous at this point.

I bet Dave is goooooood friends with Chris Jericho.

@c.a.t4607

14 күн бұрын

So is your mom

@six6thdisciple

14 күн бұрын

@@c.a.t4607 😂😂😂

@Whysobluntpal

14 күн бұрын

@@c.a.t4607 I mean... Chris does seem the type to like them dead or not resisting.

Why does meltzer have to hold a microphone like he is waiting for the money shot. Like get a stand dude. It looks odd

So that he can creat his narrative and twist the truth? No thanks. Vince can shit out his story and eat it. He has learned to eat shit and love it.

@danielwebb8402

14 күн бұрын

She's has learned to...

@danielwebb8402

14 күн бұрын

Er she has. Is her whole point

@JayG724

14 күн бұрын

Were you there? How do you know what the truth is?

So it sounds like she's a money grabber like I thought all along , text messages taken out of context with none of hers in the lawsuit , and made them public so the public could judge without both side's, like amber heard and Johnny depp 😂 trial by media does be funny if your not the one getting judged 😂

That other dude talks too much and interrupts and has no clue what he’s talking about. Super annoying

Observer is so upset Vince is innocent

Just don't let Dave tell the story, because there will be a 99.9% chance it will be wrong. Like the rest of his reporting.

@meekrob

14 күн бұрын

Where does this stupid shit come from? Have you ever actually read an issue of the Observer?

Konnan was never a serious draw in Mexico

I get the feeling Vince HATES WWE booming when he isn't there.

@sebastianhoward3304

14 күн бұрын

Booming? What's booming? Not Tv ratings.

@ItsWhizi

14 күн бұрын

@@sebastianhoward3304Gr8 B8 M8

@meekrob

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, that must be it, because it's not like this is a big news story or anything.

@milk_bath

14 күн бұрын

@@sebastianhoward3304Even as a non-WWE pro-wrestling fan, I can see WWE’s financial and creative upward swing.

@megamanxhunter

10 күн бұрын

Of course, the dude is a narcissist.

Finish the story….Dave

Vince McMahon Past Present Future

She trying to extort vince because of money

vkm the max hardcore of pro wrestling, he took rob blacks title !!!

Grant only spoke up once Vince stoped paying her

@brokenkayfabe

14 күн бұрын

so?

@rickroberts7611

14 күн бұрын

​@@brokenkayfabe So...Prostitutes deserve to be paid too

@kyleday5026

14 күн бұрын

your in denial dont know about power and cohesion

Honestly, who fucking cares what VKM wants? WWE is a better product and, seemingly, a better place to work since he's left. The world will be a better place once he's gone.

Dave always interrupting Bryan just so he can badly attempt to talk. Constantly cuts HIMSELF off mid sentence and stammers just to ultimately say what Bryan was already saying. Stfu and let the person talk that can actually talk. Then chime in with your useless word salad

It’s unfortunate that after the Vincent James McMahon Era & after the Vincent Kennedy McMahon Era, we’re getting the Paul Michael Levesque Era, instead of the Shane Brandon McMahon Era. But one of Triple H’s old theme songs was, “My Time”.

@dessertstorm7476

14 күн бұрын

Shane would be worse

@superstevie76

14 күн бұрын

​@@dessertstorm7476agree, Shane in charge would be a complete shit show!!

@JeSuisHollow

14 күн бұрын

I don't know him personally, but I don't think Shane would have been interested in this role (even proposed).

@grabbity

14 күн бұрын

​@@JeSuisHollowhe only left WWE because the writing was on the wall that both Stephanie and Hunter would be running the show above him in the event of Vince leaving. We don't really have evidence if Shane would be good or not, just that he's more over with the boys in the back. The only thing we know about Shane business-wise is, if Vince listened to him on business decisions, Vince's net worth would be well more than double what it is now.

@dessertstorm7476

9 күн бұрын

@@grabbity Shane is know to be pretty bad creatively thats why Vince never had him on the creative team.

First boo boo!

Dave's face has the same texture as a thanksgiving decorative squash

Vince sold his last stock he has absolutely zero power to return to WWE.

@antonycuff4512

14 күн бұрын

if he proves grant is lying the wwe might bring him back to avoid a lawsuit .

@BradDrakePN

14 күн бұрын

@@antonycuff4512 He resigned.

@antonycuff4512

14 күн бұрын

@@BradDrakePN so did linda and steph .

@antonycuff4512

14 күн бұрын

@@BradDrakePN the wwe and slim jim forced him into resigning . they could bring him back for an honorary position like lucas at star wars or for the hof .

🪈🪈🪈🪈🪈

Best to see if this goes to court. All the mark reporters hate Vince too much to be objective and not jump to conclusions.

If you are Vince and you have 3-5 billion. He's 78-79 years old. This women is trying to bury you and smear your legacy forever. So he has every incentive to use every resource he has to expose her and destroy her credibility. I could just as easily argue elder abuse by her. It's just as legit as her claims.

It was definitely a consensual relationship. Vince is innocent.

@grabbity

14 күн бұрын

Where's your evidence of this? 100% of all the available evidence points to the exact opposite.

@GoodOldCinema

14 күн бұрын

@@grabbity You honestly believe that a 42 year old woman with a law degree was forced into relationship that lasted 2 years? She was in for the money and the expensive gifts. Don't let your bias cloud your judgment. She only decided to sue after Vince cut her off.

She was a consenting adult. Vince didn’t keep her in a cage. She took mutiple pay days and then waned more money. It’s pretty fucking obvious what’s going on.

@toniyakovlev4403

14 күн бұрын

I do hope they both get "nothing". One is an obvious gold digger and the other is a scumbag. I guess they fit each other well, huh.

Vince and those guys thought they were brainwashing her. And she let them think it was working.

Dave stating as fact "Vince wants his story out". That's Dave's narrative. He has no proof of that, but he also knows nobody will correct it and that its a safe assumption. The key being assumption. This is the danger that Dave has become to the business. He's desperate, run out of sources so he positions things as fact to validate that he still has his pulse on the industry.

She misses him💩

A lot of people are going to feel stupid when all this ends…VKM is keeping receipts.

@grabbity

14 күн бұрын

You just got done watching a video where they discussed at great length, including information in court documents that Vince has literally no receipts lol

@TheNYJets15

14 күн бұрын

@@grabbity I’m sorry, I forgot Dave Meltzer is a legal guru…he was wrong on multiple points just in this video. So again, I think a lot of people are going to be sorry in the end.

@grabbity

14 күн бұрын

@@TheNYJets15 the court documents are public record. He was directly quoting the court filing, where Vince straight up said "I don't have any of the text messages, I deleted them". What exactly do you claim he has, when the man himself says he has nothing?

Jail predator vince Expose all involved still with WWE

everyone loves to bash Vince, but kiss Triple H's rear end...like Triple was absolutely clueless to any of this 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

@c.a.t4607

14 күн бұрын

Triple h did a angle where he kidnapped his wife. Vince daughter

@JayG724

14 күн бұрын

🤡🤡🤡

@christophermarriott1681

14 күн бұрын

​@@JayG724Truth hurts

@JayG724

14 күн бұрын

@@christophermarriott1681what truth is that? That he knew Vince had a relationship with a woman? which isn’t illegal. That he was tag teaming a lady with his friend? Which also isn’t illegal? Did she ever tell Triple H it wasn’t consensual? Was Vince openly telling people that he was assaulting this lady in his office? Probably not. This is nothing but defamation of character.

@rickroberts7611

14 күн бұрын

Its called a personal life you goof..Just because people know about dont mean they know what happens behind closed doors..

The government can get them from Vince phone.

Dave “If this was AEW” Meltzer

Dave sounds so jealous

Dave is so mad this looks bad for the girl

Well, sorry, Vince, but.. *I don't listen to bastards.* (Thumbs up if anyone gets the reference)

Think you Vince 👏👏👏👏☝️☝️☝️

You are very much not a "normal person", Dave.

This shit is why I stopped subscribing.

I don't understand why they keep uploading clips related to Vince. People clearly moved on from it. The viewership.is also evident

FREEVINCE

I’d feel bad for Linda if she wasn’t part of the Trump choir.