Viewer tells us what's wrong with my valve job!

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

Viewer schools us on valve job problems, so we share it with you!
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  • @kenbergelt6975
    @kenbergelt69756 ай бұрын

    This gentleman here has explained everything so patiently and has been so respectful in every way. For me, that says SO much about him and his character.

  • @TOMAS-lh4er

    @TOMAS-lh4er

    6 ай бұрын

    Even Ray Charels would see the leak " !!!!! Your killin me , Ha,Ha !

  • @FriendxA

    @FriendxA

    6 ай бұрын

    who is "Ray Charels"? @@TOMAS-lh4er

  • @tomstulc9143

    @tomstulc9143

    5 ай бұрын

    I have a half dozen sets of heads. Will gladly let him practice screwing up on them. An I won't charge usage fees for the practice heads.

  • @stephenmadden6480

    @stephenmadden6480

    5 ай бұрын

    Agree

  • @danielminchew8782

    @danielminchew8782

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@tomstulc9143 Your Sir are part of our problem as professional techs...

  • @JAMSIONLINE
    @JAMSIONLINE6 ай бұрын

    Appreciate the shoutout, and more importantly appreciate the way you approached the scenario with the viewer... When we choose to put our work on the internet, we open ourselves to the criticism of the world... That includes some of our peers who are qualified to offer criticism, as well as the less qualified individuals who still feel the need to criticize! But it's important to take the time to educate, and this was a great example! 😀

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you, sir!, yeah, it's tough sometimes to even make a coherent thought out of some of the responses... but overall, the responses on my channel are overwhelming positive,

  • @timblossom8904

    @timblossom8904

    6 ай бұрын

    I appreciate guys like you that can take the good and bad and still keep sharing. I have often wondered how many people refuse to share the knowledge they have with the masses because of the negativity that follows.

  • @2high2flyfpv88

    @2high2flyfpv88

    5 ай бұрын

    Ain't that the truth.@@timblossom8904

  • @jimw6991

    @jimw6991

    5 ай бұрын

    I am a mechanical engineer but worked my way thru​ college machining valves, heads, etc. Wondering in last video you said if valves leak air then they will leak mineral spirits. I don't recall ever trying this but seems possibile that with air pressure you might find a leak not showing with fluid? I say this because we 100 percent air check driveshaft slip yoke plugs to be sure they wouldn't leak trans fluid when installed in a vehicle. Air would find leaks fluid wouldn't. We did this at Dana Corporation as part of thier procedure to build OEM driveshafts for the big 3. That said your plunger explanation as likely cause of issue seems most logical, not sure why mechanic who dissed your work wouldn't have checked it before pulling a cylinder head. Easy to set up a dial indicator and compare position of plungers on a couple of lifters. Thanks for making the video. @powellmachineinc3179

  • @KX6D

    @KX6D

    5 ай бұрын

    I watch your channel too. I'm retiring and moving to NW Arkansas where I'll be working on classic wood boats, rebuilding their engines, and hope I can find a good machine shop like you guys!

  • @daveleighton4683
    @daveleighton46836 ай бұрын

    If you were my service provider, I would stick with you through thick and thin because you have treated this issue with utmost seriousness and the way you resolved the situation was completely professional and you didn't quibble with the client. You were a man of honor in this instance.

  • @Haffschlappe

    @Haffschlappe

    Ай бұрын

    Me too and I am from Germany

  • @jackpalczynski7884
    @jackpalczynski78845 ай бұрын

    Ray Charles would see the leak. Best laugh I've had in a while.

  • @jameslue-a-king9824

    @jameslue-a-king9824

    4 ай бұрын

    Quick, fast and in a hurry, did it for me...

  • @DutchKC9UOD

    @DutchKC9UOD

    2 ай бұрын

    That is so true, a leak test over an hour would go through the rings! Lol

  • @waynerobati6940

    @waynerobati6940

    24 күн бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @davidlibby5430

    @davidlibby5430

    16 күн бұрын

    I have used sets of safety glasses that Ray Charles, Jose Feliciano and Ronnie Milsap once wore.

  • @SosopChabot
    @SosopChabot6 ай бұрын

    I admire your patience with keyboard mechanics, it reflects on your business success. Keep on trucking brother…

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    I appreciate that

  • @SocketSlinger

    @SocketSlinger

    6 ай бұрын

    He's definitely got more patients than myself and most.

  • @loundclear9279

    @loundclear9279

    6 ай бұрын

    @@powellmachineinc3179 You tube mechanics? Where can I apply lol Bra keep it moving your doing great and great on explaining things i support it 😃

  • @jeffreydurham5342

    @jeffreydurham5342

    6 ай бұрын

    It's amazing to me how many people comment on subjects that that they know nothing about like they are experts.

  • @dano7480

    @dano7480

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah no doubt, you can tell he cares about his work. It would be better if he could focus on what he does without worrying about the keyboard mechanics. If I was him I wouldn't even bring the morons comments up but that shows you how much he respects his work.

  • @Brocracks
    @Brocracks6 ай бұрын

    I ran a machine shop right up the interstate from you. I walked away after 10 years because I was tired of fighting with people who don’t know what they are talking about. Some manager, quality guy or purchasing agent always knew more than me. I wasted time and money trying to educate people that just don’t get it. I understand what you are doing and I agree, but as time goes on and your channel grows you’ll have to ignore the nay sayers Keep doing what you do.

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Yep, I agree, 💯

  • @eriklarson9137

    @eriklarson9137

    6 ай бұрын

    @@powellmachineinc3179 It's probably worse than ever now. People watch one video, and they are experts and no one can tell them different.

  • @yafois988

    @yafois988

    6 ай бұрын

    @@eriklarson9137 Add the fact the event of woke-mellinials-Gen X-Y-Z, UHG!!!

  • @Elkarlo77

    @Elkarlo77

    6 ай бұрын

    @@yafois988 It's the Internet-University not the 'woke-mellinials-Gen X-Y-Z'. Especially as those most likely won't let their valves be done, those are most likely from the other side of the political spectrum. The Problem is a state of mental barricading and bias-confirmation, which both sides do. Keep your mind open and accept that something doing his trade for several years has more experience in it, than the hobbiest which does his third project. Internet/KZread University is nice but you need to know the limits of it. I am doing 1st and 2nd level Costumer Service as a technician for over 25 years and of course i am always wrong with certain cliente, and when you work at the Problem suddenly they start to ramble about politics, then you know that they are entrenched in their mind and you need to be careful.

  • @richiesrestorations4883

    @richiesrestorations4883

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@yafois988💯

  • @raptornest1346
    @raptornest13466 ай бұрын

    As aircraft mechanic piston turbine and a few car, boat and bike bulds ... I been around the block a few times. Everything you said is true and on point. People should appreciate you sharing your knowledge as a master engine builder. I would absolutely have no problem shipping all my future builds to a trustworthy technician. Keep the faith my friend.

  • @jonnyskray3000
    @jonnyskray30006 ай бұрын

    There's no doubt this guy understands every last detail of what he does, and the problems that can/do arise. He doesn't come off as arrogant, but confident in his experience and knowledge.

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    TYVM

  • @user-wv1pj6wh4h

    @user-wv1pj6wh4h

    2 ай бұрын

    well customer received a head with a problem, I think, , It should not have happened even if client ask just for a small job in the head.. there are warnings that we need to tell to customer, cause we are master techniciasn and customers dont understand a shit about it, even if the customer is a shop worker, so ....its called a service-- master machinist

  • @jonnyskray3000

    @jonnyskray3000

    2 ай бұрын

    @user-wv1pj6wh4h I can understand half of your reply. However, the only warning should be "install correctly or get a professional." At this level, if you are having heads or machinists do this type of skilled work on whatever, and you need a warning or help guide... you shouldn't be installing it yourself.

  • @user-wv1pj6wh4h

    @user-wv1pj6wh4h

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jonnyskray3000 1- tell the customer if you do just half of the job you cant guarantee it at 100% 2-If customer have a problem you have to tell him what is it.

  • @jonnyskray3000

    @jonnyskray3000

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-wv1pj6wh4h it's not Walmart ffs 😂 - IE universal easy installation. It's a custom rig bro

  • @trentm7964
    @trentm79646 ай бұрын

    As a machinist of 30 years myself. You are someone i would trust with my parts. And i don't trust very many people. Take care my friend.

  • @charlesg5085

    @charlesg5085

    6 ай бұрын

    He needed to check that runout and machine to spec.

  • @FastHemi

    @FastHemi

    6 ай бұрын

    Same here, 33 years and I agree this guy is awesome and trustworthy

  • @eriklarson9137

    @eriklarson9137

    6 ай бұрын

    I wish the owner of that head would poke his head in this comments section. Lol. Although, I bet he is so smart, he knows more than the whole Internet so no one could tell him he is wrong.

  • @gerradcraig6370

    @gerradcraig6370

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah no shit, duh… obviously he’s trustworthy and knows his shit, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out

  • @jimdiamond8246

    @jimdiamond8246

    5 ай бұрын

    The trouble is people are having an opinion but have no engineering degree or experience .I have over 40 years in my industry and have similar issues with people having a opinion on some thing they have no real experience on the issue .the internet and the world is full of these people .

  • @brocluno01
    @brocluno016 ай бұрын

    Good episode. I'm 3/4 of a century old. Been playing with motors since I was 10. I agree with you. Valves will seat and work with way more variation than shown. Think old 200K motors that still make compression with valves you can wiggle with your fingers 1/8" ... 😊 The only way to get that black smudge on the seat is to have combustion gasses blowing by the valves. The only that happens is the valve is held open ... The "customer" had a valve train issue other than the machine work 🙃

  • @user-yf3gx3jd8o

    @user-yf3gx3jd8o

    6 ай бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Exactly!!

  • @rmiller334

    @rmiller334

    6 ай бұрын

    Yup

  • @richardhertz8996

    @richardhertz8996

    6 ай бұрын

    Agree 100%. Before I even watched the video, I saw the picture and said to myself, "Something was causing the valve to hang open". The worst valve job in the world wouldn't cause the customer's problem.

  • @GrandPitoVic

    @GrandPitoVic

    6 ай бұрын

    You are so right. He just didn't know what was happening and because of this he had to take it all back apart. He figured he would back charge Powell so he didn't have to do it for free. But he charged him alot more than should be allowed.

  • @alanschroeder3613
    @alanschroeder36136 ай бұрын

    You were very smart to video tape the whole process from the time you took it out of your truck until the end. There isn't anything else that you could have done to please that customer. Your handling of the situation was very professional and commendable.

  • @MurgatroidGarfunkle

    @MurgatroidGarfunkle

    5 ай бұрын

    @@wonderors And here you are. Maybe it was scripted, but doubtful. Question is...did ya learn anything? After all, that's why...the video...

  • @vinceevans3219
    @vinceevans32196 ай бұрын

    Hi I'm from Salisbury in the UK I worked for Janspeed engineering in the cylinder head shop for over 10 years and everything you have said is spot on and it's obvious that you're customer did not bleed the lifters and the valves weren't closing And even if it was bad job it wouldn't have passed the vacuum test that you do before sending the heads out The problem is the internet has created alot of armchair experts that chat bs and when you call them out on it they become keyboard warriors because facts blow the hell out of their assumptions and hurts their feelings which they take out on you

  • @stuartreynolds4480

    @stuartreynolds4480

    5 ай бұрын

    also from the UK, where young learner bikers thrash 4-stroke 125's and hammer the valves into the seats for zero valve clearance..

  • @vinceevans3219

    @vinceevans3219

    5 ай бұрын

    @@stuartreynolds4480 it does happen like that lots of revs unleaded fuel Ducati recommends reshimming every 6000 miles

  • @stevewelborn8744
    @stevewelborn87446 ай бұрын

    This probably won't impress you but I just wanted to tell you. I've been a cylinder head man for 40 years and have worked at a very high quality shop. I have subscribed to you because I feel you are very sharp and I love how you handle things.

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much!! It's amazing to me how many awesome folks on yt reach out with positive feedback!!

  • @eriklarson9137

    @eriklarson9137

    6 ай бұрын

    I subbed as well. This dude knows his stuff for sure.

  • @nataliewassel3187

    @nataliewassel3187

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah I can't understand how the other combustion Chambers don't show no sign of carbon

  • @jaredmcquiniff6174
    @jaredmcquiniff61746 ай бұрын

    It’s funny how the guy on KZread with a professional machine shop knows more than the people who swear they know what’s wrong with stuff and never put hands on it! I’m glad you have patience and knowledge to educate people. This is the kind of channel I enjoy watching.

  • @MWilk098

    @MWilk098

    6 ай бұрын

    The person he was responding to was obviously a machinist themselves.

  • @ericeastmead7770

    @ericeastmead7770

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm a millwright/ fabrication tradesmen (non-union), He may be a machinist, but from what I see about his lack of knowledge of thermal expansion, especially between different metals I personally would never send my work to his shop. I have worked on billion dollar equipment In particular a 350' continuous OSB press that grows 9" from cold start to operating temp. so tolerance changes for every part attached. and I do hundreds of pump rebuilds . depending on some exotic materials and temperature of what's being pumped. a lot of research goes into thermal growth. love your work brother

  • @matthewwebb6001

    @matthewwebb6001

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ericeastmead7770 The last millwright I met on a job was a pretty cool guy and knew his stuff.. I just can't see someone who should know better acting like you are unless you just don't believe the guy went 20years without a return.

  • @ericeastmead7770

    @ericeastmead7770

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@matthewwebb6001 I know everyone screws up, I know I have. I'm just saying you have to understand thermal growth when setting tolerance especially when using different metals.

  • @MurgatroidGarfunkle

    @MurgatroidGarfunkle

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ericeastmead7770 But he said he's never had a head returned to him in 20yrs. Wouldn't this thermal expansion thing you speak of cause issues with every job he's done?

  • @danburby7936
    @danburby79363 ай бұрын

    IM 86 YRS OLD,IVE DONE HUNDREDS,IF NOT THOUSANDS OF VALVE JOBS,AND I NEVER HAD A CUSTOMER COMPLAINT,IM SORRY FOR YOU WHEN YOU GET A CUSTOMER WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT YOUR TRADE THAN YOU DO,YOUR A GREAT TEACHER

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    3 ай бұрын

    Ty sir!, I really appreciate that!

  • @MeLoNHeAd00
    @MeLoNHeAd006 ай бұрын

    I love it when people critique pros ! The customer was wrong !!!! I do know this as i have been rebuilding and machining engines for 22yrs. That valve was as sealed as a nuns beaver! Also i love your cams !

  • @robertheymann5906
    @robertheymann59066 ай бұрын

    You come across as an honest dude, it's one of the reasons I enjoy your videos and you seem to be a guy to admit any errors and embrace truth. Thx brother

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    I appreciate that

  • @narcoti

    @narcoti

    6 ай бұрын

    To be honest you hear that accent and know automatically dude is a straight shooter.

  • @robertheymann5906

    @robertheymann5906

    6 ай бұрын

    @@narcoti yup

  • @ByronTabor
    @ByronTabor6 ай бұрын

    When you know you're right, and have proved it, it's best to ignore those who claim your wrong. Enjoy the channel, keep up the good work!

  • @SR-xk3oy

    @SR-xk3oy

    6 ай бұрын

    You don’t get content if you ignore it though 🤷‍♀️

  • @shawbros

    @shawbros

    6 ай бұрын

    "ignore those who claim your wrong" you're

  • @tomdavid5405

    @tomdavid5405

    5 ай бұрын

    Some people are hell bent on being rt I believe you are correct I am 68 and been around motors all my life I think the lifter could have been pumped up or someone didn't know how to adjust rockers correct

  • @jameslue-a-king9824

    @jameslue-a-king9824

    4 ай бұрын

    Byron said it right...

  • @thorwaldjohanson2526

    @thorwaldjohanson2526

    4 ай бұрын

    It's a great opportunity for education and learning. I'm glad he showed it and not just talked about it.

  • @DeltaH-9
    @DeltaH-95 ай бұрын

    I dont know why KZread recommended your channel to me, but I'm glad it did. I just subbed. You're very straightforward, honest, and no BS.

  • @rickeh100
    @rickeh1006 ай бұрын

    You sir are a fine grntleman. Very few machinest/mechanics have your calm confidence, proving to me a very competent professional. You sir are an exemplary facilitater of learning. Your son has the best mentor possible full stop! I hope your customers realize how lucky they are. You should be working for the likes of Mr Hendric, Mr Penski or Mr. Andretti! Thank-You for your sharing of knowledge!

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks, that's very kind of you!!!

  • @JPsTurf
    @JPsTurf6 ай бұрын

    45 years turning wrenches here - I found your channel by accident, and subscribed because of how well you explained that valve job. I also admire how you handled the problem customer - you should have folks lining up. I'm not too far from you, so I will be bringing you any engine machining work I need in the future - keep up the good work!

  • @larryalexander4833

    @larryalexander4833

    6 ай бұрын

    Samehere

  • @snoodyfox8140

    @snoodyfox8140

    6 ай бұрын

    I did the same thing.. it just popped up .I'm glad it did.i definitely appreciate it.47 years of turning wrenches

  • @doncarlson8391
    @doncarlson83916 ай бұрын

    That dude thinks he knows something but it's obvious he only knows what he's watched on KZread. You are 100% correct in your assessment of the situation. For what it's worth, I've been in machining and metrology for almost 40 years and fully understand and agree with you. Appreciate your patience and taking the time to make these videos.

  • @SophiaAphrodite

    @SophiaAphrodite

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes. He had a theory, Googled the terminology and posted his comment. Missing the whole problem which his argument even if TRUE would be irrelevant in a new build early startup

  • @jimmyarrington3343

    @jimmyarrington3343

    6 ай бұрын

    You can't fix stupid. The guy has no common sense and a huge ego.

  • @tonymonroe4861
    @tonymonroe48614 ай бұрын

    You went above and beyond what you should have.

  • @markabner4046
    @markabner4046Ай бұрын

    Watched both videos. You are the rare example of what makes America great ! The business man that stands behind their work and is truthful. Let it go, move on to the next job and keep up the good work my friend. You are a true grassroots american.

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    Ай бұрын

    Appreciate that

  • @johndickson6917

    @johndickson6917

    28 күн бұрын

    I check for valve seat run out on new heads first. I'll have one with less than ..001 . The matching head will be all over the place .006,.007..008. I have an old stone type seat cutter. I'm not happy unless the run out is .001 or less. Keep up the videos.

  • @artlife6210
    @artlife62106 ай бұрын

    Ive been building motors all my life ,not at your level by any means, but I consider myself a pretty thorough and successful builder, and every time I watch one of your videos I learn something(or things) new. So many people wrench on a car for a while and then think theyre qualified to claim expert status to the point of correcting an actual expert such as yourself, humility sure needs to make a comeback, love the content, peace and cheers!!

  • @Scummy_shovel

    @Scummy_shovel

    6 ай бұрын

    Absolutely. Become a expert at everything is a gradual process and you really never see it in yourself. Because like you stated the more you learn about anything the more you realize there is so much more that you still haven’t learned. Like me. I’m 45 years old. I have been building motorcycles my whole life. I have built more motors than I can remember. But there are still motors and Designs that’s new to me when I see them. Especially new stuff. They make changes constantly. So regardless to what you do for a living you advance in stages 1st. I have no clue. But I’m learning 2nd. Ok. I have the concept and now I’m doing 3rd. Ok now I’m very comfortable and confident I can work or fix most anything 4th. I have seen almost every problem and can pretty much work my way through any sort of issue and problem It’s the 4th stage where none mechanics think you are a expert. But you never see it or feel that way because you know there are some mechanical things you haven’t done or seen. But your confidence is high enough that stuff doesn’t worry you. Then the last stage is you die taking decades of experience with you still not 100% experienced in everything there is to experience in your trade. I’m 45. Grew up in a motorcycle dealership working on bikes everyday. I’m in the 3rd stage because like you I’m reliable. But I still learn constantly. Even if it’s learning a better/easier way of doing something I can already do.

  • @charlesauld8494

    @charlesauld8494

    6 ай бұрын

    Hi, I'm a retired Chief Marine Engineer, in Scotland. I saw your video, and, as far as I am concerned, the valve seat grinds were spot on. The way we used to check a valve grind, was to put 4 pencil lines on the valve face, put the valve in, and give it one quarter turn, then take it out again. If the 4 pencil lines were cut, the valve seat was perfect. You probably know this already, if not, I hope it helps.

  • @TheeGlocktopus

    @TheeGlocktopus

    6 ай бұрын

    Practical Knowledge is not the same as Working Knowledge just like Engines are not the same as Motors.

  • @lamewarrior

    @lamewarrior

    6 ай бұрын

    @@charlesauld8494 Thank you! that's just what I need to know for my Wheel Horse exhaust valve lapping job.

  • @DL101ca

    @DL101ca

    6 ай бұрын

    They have not been serving humble pie at the local diner for a while...folks have forgotten the taste of it.

  • @dominichamel4685
    @dominichamel46856 ай бұрын

    Just imagine how much work you could have put out in the time it took to make this video explaining the situation that wasn't a situation, simply educating truth from fiction. Keep up the good work

  • @dominichamel4685

    @dominichamel4685

    6 ай бұрын

    You obviously know your craft well. It's getting harder these days to find quality craftsmanship. Thanks for the like.

  • @patrickgreen9747
    @patrickgreen9747Ай бұрын

    “Ray Charles could see the leak”……now that shit was both funny and accurate..!!!

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    Ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @jessehunt9188
    @jessehunt91886 ай бұрын

    Yes sir, it makes so much sense! Thank you for the info!

  • @HeinzGuderian_
    @HeinzGuderian_6 ай бұрын

    The issue was the valve being held open while the engine is running. You were spot on with your theory about the lifter pre-load being too high. I always go light on pre-load and then tighten up as it runs. I've never had a problem doing it this way, and it's how I was taught 45 years ago. Hydraulic lifters have a lot of room for adjustment so someone didn't know what they were doing. That person was the customer.

  • @user-lh1ss1fp5q
    @user-lh1ss1fp5q6 ай бұрын

    I was a student of auto mechanics beginning in 1973. 4-1/2 years of vocational school training prior to working as a natural gas industry car and truck mechanic for 12 years of a 34 year career that I finished in 2010. I have had updated OEM updated training modules over my 34 year career. I am not NIASE certified but I know enough to see that you are a highly trained industry professional. There is nothing I would try to school you on or dazzle you about. You are an engine mechanical genius. I stand in awe of what you do in your business there.

  • @FarmerJohn1957
    @FarmerJohn19575 ай бұрын

    Not sure why KZread recommended your channel, but I have found it very interesting so far. I’m glad you walked over to show us the machine that actually cuts the valve seat because when you were describing it, I kept thinking to myself… Why the heck would there be a pallet involved in the process… But when you walked over there and showed us the machine It was obvious that you were saying pilot… Love the accent. Keep up the good work.

  • @donbartholomew8273

    @donbartholomew8273

    4 ай бұрын

    You always want a sober pallet when you take yous fambly on a aeroplane trip 😅

  • @rattkiller01

    @rattkiller01

    2 ай бұрын

    What accent?

  • @DeanBeck-fc5hf
    @DeanBeck-fc5hf6 ай бұрын

    I enjoy the way you make sense. Why I enjoy these videos is your sensability

  • @kenchorney2724
    @kenchorney27246 ай бұрын

    The customer could have narrowed down the cause of the issue by doing a leakdown test on the motor while it was still assembled. If leakage was noted past the valve, remove the rocker arm and re-test. I suspect the leakage would have disappeared once the rocker arm was removed and that would have shown him what the cause was (stuck lifter).

  • @jasonbolton1796

    @jasonbolton1796

    6 ай бұрын

    100% remove the rocker first. Before condemning the valve

  • @SosopChabot

    @SosopChabot

    6 ай бұрын

    Exactly

  • @kenchorney2724

    @kenchorney2724

    6 ай бұрын

    @@jasonbolton1796 That's what I have done whenever I found a leaky valve during a leakdown test. I usually give the valve stem a rap with a deadblow hammer while the cylinder is under pressure to see if the leak goes away. Sometimes valves will leak a little if a used motor has been sitting a long time without running (not applicable on fresh heads of course).

  • @lebojay

    @lebojay

    6 ай бұрын

    What’s a rocker arm? (JK: European car dude here just messin’ with y’all 😉)

  • @lexteakmialoki5544

    @lexteakmialoki5544

    6 ай бұрын

    This is exactly what should have happened. Video the leakdown test. Remove the rocker and do the test again. Call Powell, explain the results, talk it over. Too not consider all possibilities, yank the head and blame someone else for your lack of knowledge, just proves it. Powell did that, grabbed the head out of the truck and showed the whole story from the start. The customer says the head has a problem, without any actual proof and they blames the guy who just proved it was correct. Funny all those other valves in the heads, cut with the same equipment did not have an issue. Guy should be happy he got the compensation he did.

  • @PurposedLensPhotoMedia
    @PurposedLensPhotoMedia6 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure why KZread recommended me this video however, I am glad it did! I just want to say that you seem to be a man of great ethics and morals! You stand out because it's RARE to find people (especially on KZread) who are just interested in the truth and teaching others in such a humble way! You seems to be doing well in life and I can see why! I wish you NOTHING but success here on KZread! Keep up the GREAT WORK! 👍🏾

  • @fknbastages

    @fknbastages

    6 ай бұрын

    Same here. It just was there. He is like a few other KZreadrs that I trust. Scotty and The Car Care Nut.

  • @TurboDog73TX
    @TurboDog73TX6 ай бұрын

    A class act as usual man. Keep on keepin' on.

  • @apetri7221
    @apetri72216 ай бұрын

    Very nice...there is more than one way to have a discussion...or a debate...every one learns each and every day! Merry Christmas to you and those around you!

  • @bencrisp9776
    @bencrisp97766 ай бұрын

    My daddy always said,, you can't tell people that don't know... Keep up the good work.

  • @TheTruePhatso
    @TheTruePhatso6 ай бұрын

    I just came across your channel today and I sure am happy I did. I saw the video just before this one about the Mr-know-it-all and the "failed" valve job. Some people are just so ignorant of facts and they don't realize how stupid it makes them look, like the valve job guy. I retired as a precision machinist after more than 35 years for an engineering firm. Most of these people don't understand what it takes to do intricate machining and how tedious the setups are. They THINK they know yet they have no idea. Your videos are very informative and easy to follow and you know a little bit more about how to do some type of machining work that, quite frankly, I didn't know how to do before. Keep your honesty and your integrity and as long as you have those two things, the work will follow you. Stay safe.

  • @zackclark2214
    @zackclark22146 ай бұрын

    Keep doing what you’re doing! You’re doing an amazing job. I love your passion for what you’re doing. It’s rare to find these days…

  • @justinstrouse1015
    @justinstrouse10156 ай бұрын

    This guy absolutely knows what the hell he's talking about. You just gained a future customer!

  • @JimmyRJump
    @JimmyRJump6 ай бұрын

    To me, you come across as a person with great integrity. Absolutely no ego involved, just trying (and succeeding) to convey what you're doing and what's going on in crystal clear clarity. Of course there's pride in your work. But that's not to be confused with ego. Pride comes from a job done to the best of your ability. Ego comes from thinking you're the best out there at what you do. Greetings from Belgium.

  • @samrodian919

    @samrodian919

    6 ай бұрын

    Now that is so true!

  • @robertdavis8010
    @robertdavis80106 ай бұрын

    My hat is off to you my friend. You have the patients of Job.

  • @nosefirst
    @nosefirst5 ай бұрын

    One of my favorite things to do as a young engineer was to go out to the machine shop and watch older operators work and ask questions.

  • @ChrisHall02
    @ChrisHall026 ай бұрын

    Just found your channel because of that "bad" valve job video, then watched this one regarding the armchair machinist. Even though you didn't have to, you took the time to explain in detail your process and approach to your work, and explain how his assumptions were incorrect. It's obvious you are honest and care about what you do. I have no doubt you're an expert in your field. Great job firing that customer. I worked in the trades for many years and only had to fire a few customers, but sometimes that's what you have to do.

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you sir

  • @stanleyeallen

    @stanleyeallen

    5 ай бұрын

    I watched both videos and you have gone the extra mile to serve the customer and the truth. I have 50 plus years in the business and you make me proud.

  • @scottnusser6232
    @scottnusser62326 ай бұрын

    The guy who sent that email is a real smacker! If a customer questions my integrity they are history! You handled it perfectly. Give them back their money and kick rocks! Back in the 70's and 80's we did a ton of freshen up hoagies for low cost repairs for customers trying to get to work. You can get away with a lot and they'll run just fine for a long time. The guy who emailed never took apart a good runner and actually measured anything. I've ball honed and put rings in cylinders many times with.010 taper, was it optimum? hell no, but worked just fine. Helped alot of poor people get to work over the last 40 yrs. I can see you are a good man and very knowledgeable, don't let some jackass, know it all bother you!❤

  • @jackwillie2729
    @jackwillie27296 ай бұрын

    Well said on ever point ..thanks for your patience in teaching those that want learning and you professionally explaining the steps us machinist use to perform a quality service..Thanks

  • @jimflammer9370
    @jimflammer93706 ай бұрын

    Another fantastic educational video, thank you.

  • @shaggydogg630
    @shaggydogg6306 ай бұрын

    I watched the first video, I didn’t see anything wrong with the work you did. I’ve been in a shop all my life and sometimes these things happen. The customer had other issues that we probably will never know.

  • @jeanlawson9133

    @jeanlawson9133

    6 ай бұрын

    I too seen the video,, the cylinder head was correct there had to be something in the rest of the valve train that held valve open. Creating a valve leak be it adjustment or rocker alignment or the rocker stud, shaft, or bearings in rocker..

  • @copperaudio9664

    @copperaudio9664

    6 ай бұрын

    "The customer had other issues that we probably will never know" Indeed

  • @deepsleep7822

    @deepsleep7822

    6 ай бұрын

    Most of you guys are way beyond my skill level. However, my 2 cents. In the first video the more he got to explaining it, something was/is preventing the value from fully seating. Only a few things can do that. My thought was that something is/was wrong with the value lifter. Sadly if the ex customer does figure it out, I doubt that they will contact you.

  • @chuckfry1227

    @chuckfry1227

    6 ай бұрын

    The customer will never admit fault or what they actually did that was wrong. Especially since you paid for their expensive mistake. I will be subbed to your channel till you or I leave this world. Thank You for the great education. 😊

  • @johncherish7610

    @johncherish7610

    3 ай бұрын

    @@copperaudio9664 I will say it. His other issues is that he is a jerk. He just wanted to blame his mistakes on the machinist, I will bet he didn't check the lifters and had a stuck one. If you going to spend all that money doing a valve job replace the lifters and check the cam for wear as well. It makes no sense to tear down that far and not do it

  • @johntom5416
    @johntom54166 ай бұрын

    Back in the mid to late 1970's I worked in a shop doing the exact kind of work you are talking about in this video. I have done hundreds of valve jobs, replaced valve seats, and valve guides, on anything and everything you can think of. We had a Winona valve guide and seat machine, that we used to replace guides and seats. So like yourself I am somewhat of an ACTUAL expert on what can happen to create valve sealing problems. I think your analysis of what caused the zero compression is exactly correct. The entire valve had to be off the seat to allow that kind of a leak to occur. A stuck hydraulic lifter, as you said sounds like the likely culprit. I also want to touch on valve stem seals, to help educate the general public about this technology. Valve stem seals up through at least the 1970's were very rudimentary. In fact the factory valve stem seals on the small block Chevy engines was just a rubber O-ring placed in a groove of the valve stem on top of the keepers AFTER the valve was installed. This directed the oil to run over the spring retainer and down the spring. That was the FACTORY valve stem seal. This was the factory solution for, what, over 30 years, with no oil leakage issues, unless the guide or stem got worn excessively.

  • @MrRatkilr

    @MrRatkilr

    3 ай бұрын

    Basic umbrella seals work. Allow a little oil for lube and sheds most. Positive valve stem seals. Don't allow much oil for lube imo.

  • @jetjock6045
    @jetjock60456 ай бұрын

    you do a great job in taking the time to help the people who don't know much engines.

  • @victorgonza4528
    @victorgonza45286 ай бұрын

    Thank you again for taking the time to educate us , defeat the ignorance .

  • @mcasteel2112
    @mcasteel21126 ай бұрын

    I had this one guy commenting on a weld I done, Ive been a certified JB Welder for going 36 years now and I just shrug it off.

  • @HarborSite-7
    @HarborSite-76 ай бұрын

    It's a guarantee Daniel, every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new about engine building. You can tell by listening to you speak about these things that you have an encyclopedic knowledge of this subject matter and a certain enthusiasm for it as well. I guess there will inevitably be some trolls in the comments section but they will always be heavily outnumbered by people who appreciate your willingness to share your wealth of knowledge with the rest of us. So again, thanks for your time and patience brother.

  • @frankiesaotoandmore5872
    @frankiesaotoandmore5872Ай бұрын

    You r so spot on sir awesome job keep up the awesome work

  • @robinpatterson8754
    @robinpatterson87546 ай бұрын

    Stay the course. You show an extreme amount of honesty and integrity and talent with your work. YOU DO A FANTASTIC JOB. Something at the customer end is not being told to you. Keep up your amazing work.

  • @wolfcommander6009
    @wolfcommander60096 ай бұрын

    When the Keyboard Mechanic Types...its always a google warrior....great vid Sir👍🏻

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank y'all!! Really appreciate you

  • @jonfrost7996
    @jonfrost79966 ай бұрын

    Pure class man pure class. You got me as a new subscriber I admire your patience with them. I've been fixing busted stuff for 37 years now. I still learn every day, keep teaching. People's self importance fills up their head so much there's no room for learning. You ROCK.

  • @edwardprasad5942
    @edwardprasad59422 ай бұрын

    Sir you are a decent and caring manager/owner. You have excellent customer satisfaction skills. The odd customer can get under your skin big time. Trust me I would come to you for my work in a heart beat. Sleep well my virtual friend

  • @paul4usc
    @paul4usc5 ай бұрын

    I've enjoyed both videos. Thanks for taking the time to make them.

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @55chevytruck
    @55chevytruck6 ай бұрын

    There are always people like that and that is why I am glad to be retired and not have to deal with the public. Have found the biggest critics rarely do there own work. You doing great work .

  • @gorilla_with_jetpack4102
    @gorilla_with_jetpack41026 ай бұрын

    Man, I have no idea what's going on here but I feel like I'm learning something. I barely understand how an engine works, but I am enthralled with the information you're providing. If I ever need an engine fixed, I'm going to your shop. Rock on dude!

  • @biophillie
    @biophillie5 ай бұрын

    You have my business.. You know your stuff, and you're a straight shooter. We need more of this. Thank you. From, Phil in Cali.

  • @jeremyhall7495
    @jeremyhall74955 ай бұрын

    Great channel, really honest information, well presented ! Thanks, I learn something every time 👍!

  • @jakesteel3641
    @jakesteel36416 ай бұрын

    You're so calm, handling people with facts and integrity, explaining in more detail than their brains could comprehend with it then having your experience, and paying off the wrong customer with it just telling them you are right and screw off.... Just amazes me.. I found this by happen stance and completely respect you and your business.. Some people just want to blind blame those succeeding in life. The fact you stated you have nothing to prove to them is the pure facts, though they think you owe them (the non customer) a second of your time and effort. 🎉

  • @flinch622
    @flinch6226 ай бұрын

    I appreciate your focus. In a way, this channel could be said to be about building a better customer - the internet has its share of half baked and wrong information that needs just a little help.

  • @user-qs8ei9ly2k
    @user-qs8ei9ly2k6 ай бұрын

    Finding your channel brilliant, in that you explain everything in simple terms, but also putting different slants on subject at hand, this leads to better understanding of subjects, well 👍

  • @PrivateUsername
    @PrivateUsername6 ай бұрын

    Great video, great explanation. Thanks.

  • @jenniferwhitewolf3784
    @jenniferwhitewolf37846 ай бұрын

    I admire your devotion to seeking greater knowledge. I really hope there are some young people getting started that are subscribed, and taking in what you say as part of their education, not just the procedures, but the ethics also.

  • @biastv1234
    @biastv12346 ай бұрын

    Just discovered this channel. I’m an Australian, so your accent is a little tricky sometimes, but when you said’ Ray Charles could see that ‘ I spat my coffee all over the keyboard. Excellent channel, great content. Keep up the great work

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the sub!

  • @alanegan8909
    @alanegan89096 ай бұрын

    Great video. Really good response. Well done 👍👍👍

  • @kenhoyle4344
    @kenhoyle4344Ай бұрын

    Great Job. I love learning about motors and every episode teaches me a better understanding of what goes into it. 😀

  • @dantwomey
    @dantwomey6 ай бұрын

    You remind me of Steve Morris of SME. You're honest and you're making a great effort to help people get things done correctly. One of Steve's favorite sayings that always makes me smile is, "That's just not how it works!"

  • @MarineGrunt
    @MarineGrunt6 ай бұрын

    You want to be a learning channel ? Well , you succeeded , I learn something , every time I tune in . What you left out is that some folks dont want to be taught ...they want to be right .

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you!! We really appreciate you

  • @iceman9678
    @iceman96785 ай бұрын

    Your patience is admirable.

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    5 ай бұрын

    Ty

  • @pierresjostrom2928
    @pierresjostrom29286 ай бұрын

    Beautiful work as always! And what a story behind it, wear it with pride!

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you! Will do!

  • @stephenhilyer
    @stephenhilyer6 ай бұрын

    I love this. Some people you just can’t make happy. I own my own business, no where near the precision as yours, I fill for you guys. Thank you for what you do.

  • @arcorob
    @arcorob6 ай бұрын

    I dont do engine stuff anymore but subscribed because we need good channels like yours ...Totally supportive

  • @geometrycutz9167
    @geometrycutz91676 ай бұрын

    I just found your channel, and i gotta say, i really really enjoy your content. I really appreciate all your hard work, and dedication to your craft. My personal opinion on the whole situation is you handled it really well, you showed on camara your process on how you came the the conclusion you did, you made a second whole video explaining the whole thing, and you never attacked any ody for their opinion. You are a legend of a human, keep up the great work over there!! I look forward to your next video! God bless!!

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Tyvm

  • @AARSB1
    @AARSB16 ай бұрын

    Great channel thanks for the education.

  • @enraikow6109
    @enraikow61096 ай бұрын

    i have near to no experience with valve-work, but i appreciate your professionalism and respectful attitude coupled with the most southern accent i've ever heard as a foreigner. i enjoyed every second of this and even learned a little bit too. thanks for all that. god bless!

  • @robertborgeson1821
    @robertborgeson18216 ай бұрын

    Just found this channel and love it. I have always been into mechanics. I am in the process of trying to build my LS1 camaro. Most of my knowledge is book and/or internet learned. I like to think I'm pretty versed in engineering theory and how things work, although I'll be the first to admit I'm not the best with a wrench... All this is to say this channel is perfect for me because it balances what I think I know with real world application. Thanks for all the insight

  • @Bassillerco
    @Bassillerco5 ай бұрын

    Keep Calm and Machine On. Great stuff, Powell Machine!

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks, will do!

  • @jeffcharboneau3514
    @jeffcharboneau35146 ай бұрын

    You have alot more patience with ppl than I do. I love the comment abiut Ray Charles. That had me in stitches...keep on with the great videos..

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    I appreciate that

  • @brad4908
    @brad49084 ай бұрын

    27:11 ‘… people that’s smarter than me…’ as a foreign viewer, who knows *nothing* about machining or mechanics, can I just say how much pleasure it gave me to listen to you discuss this with your accent. To a non-American you have a real ‘good ‘ol boy’ way of speaking that adds huge value to your out-of-hand dismissal of his criticism. Fantastic.

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    4 ай бұрын

    Tyvm

  • @RB-lf7bo
    @RB-lf7bo6 ай бұрын

    Thank u for all your patience in teaching keep on keeping on 👍

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    You are very welcome

  • @rafaelbustos4758

    @rafaelbustos4758

    6 ай бұрын

    Harley cranks❤ wow I live close windeberg ranks😊

  • @justinredman6678
    @justinredman66786 ай бұрын

    Sounds to me like your customer saw your video and had a point to prove. Youre doing a great job man! And went above and beyond to try to help the customer and restore what he thought hed been wronged with. Youll be blessed all the more for it.

  • @dustinloudermilk4349
    @dustinloudermilk43493 ай бұрын

    You proved your case when you lapped the value by hand for 30 seconds and it was perfectly in round great job buddy your shop did everything rite....

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @FloridafishingwithRick
    @FloridafishingwithRick6 ай бұрын

    Don't even acknowledge them man. Itll always happen no matter what you show or do.

  • @rchydrozz751

    @rchydrozz751

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree. Once a few of these knuckleheads see they can irritate you, they will continue to try.

  • @patseabough8283
    @patseabough82836 ай бұрын

    Excellent presentation on this topic

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you kindly!

  • @jamesbreve8761
    @jamesbreve87612 ай бұрын

    As I sit here to grasp a taste of what and how you prech lol I see a man with a good attitude you knows how to break down and teach and and a man that's takes his job serious congrats

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you!!, I really appreciate that!

  • @teamgonzo9289
    @teamgonzo92896 ай бұрын

    Hey, you're one of the coolest personalities in the automotive podcasts. Most of us are paying too much attention to what you're saying, then to hear Mr know it all's answer. You're a cool dude, and it shows. Keep up the great work.

  • @yuno3364
    @yuno33646 ай бұрын

    I learn so much stuff watching your videos! Keep it up

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    TYVM

  • @johnallright6847
    @johnallright68476 ай бұрын

    This guy comes over as a man who knows his stuff and hasnt tried to rip anyone, he has integrity in abundance and you can just tell he is not a billybullshitter, think the customer just doesnt know a hundredth of what he knows like me and that is the problem.

  • @gordocarbo

    @gordocarbo

    3 ай бұрын

    He cranked down the rocker too far and hung a valve open. He obviously knows nada just points and faults. Those guys...never wrong their dog dont bite, wife dont cheat etc Just ask em.

  • @RonaldReed-ul9du
    @RonaldReed-ul9du4 ай бұрын

    You do a fantastic job, thx for your complete explanation of every process

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    4 ай бұрын

    Ty, we appreciate you

  • @ChannelAsh100
    @ChannelAsh1006 ай бұрын

    This entire "bad" valve job is what popped your channel up in my feed and im taken in by your knowledge and personality on this matter and after seeing your other videos, its a subscribe from me.

  • @c5back9
    @c5back94 ай бұрын

    Far be it from me to offer unsolicited advice brother, but I would like to commend your sense of transparency, honor and integrity. It’s seems to me like you have given the former customer and various other naysayers on this thread more time and attention than any rightfully deserve.

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    4 ай бұрын

    I appreciate that

  • @halbud
    @halbud6 ай бұрын

    New subscriber, Great Explaination on the valve repair . Just retired from being a truck mechanic for 46 yrs. If i needed head repairs done i would send them all to you ! Your an honest man,and i like the way you talk ,lol!!

  • @SteveP116
    @SteveP1163 ай бұрын

    Always a great video. I really enjoy listening to someone smart speak.

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    3 ай бұрын

    I appreciate that!

  • @michaelrich8990
    @michaelrich89906 ай бұрын

    And baby there ain't no time!😂😂😂 I love it! You are amazing, i love listening to you and learning something new every video!

  • @powellmachineinc3179

    @powellmachineinc3179

    6 ай бұрын

    😊 thank you

  • @johnandersen6364
    @johnandersen63646 ай бұрын

    Your patience and professionalism are bar none. Most of us have had customers like this and yes, the best thing was to fire them as customers, your time and expertise is best used on customers that deserve the work you do. Great channel, wish I knew about this channel sooner! You are a straight talker, and know what you are talking about.

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