Picard watching the Borg Queen get assimilated: "Soooo....how do you like it?!"

@MGmirkin

Ай бұрын

Replicator Borg Queen: "I like it just fine! It kind of tickles... And, now we are One." Locutus: "Shit..."

@nickm9102

Ай бұрын

​@@MGmirkinyou missed where the human form replicators created Locutus again.

@MegaCyberleader

13 күн бұрын

@@MGmirkin hahahaha

Once the Borg make the mistake of trying to tractor the replicator ship it’s over. The replicators would be like, “express lane to the buffet!” I’m thinking the 29th century Borg are even doomed if they stay & fight as , even if they win, a few collisions with the disassociated replicator groups & they’re being strip-mined.

4:13 SG1 season 8 episode 1. THOR says it was a projectile that was likely composed of Replicators & this is how they have boarded Asgard ships in the past.

@RetroBadgerGaming

Ай бұрын

Thanks for that info! An important reference. Terrifying how they can do that 🖖

@DanBen07

Ай бұрын

@@RetroBadgerGaming Definitely 🖖

*Borg:* "We are Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Prepare to be assimilated." *Replicators:* "Gee golly, there's an awful lot of gunk surrounding all this tech. Time to break out the acid spray to dissolve the organic waste material..."

@ianoconnor1515

7 күн бұрын

Or use it to make organic replicators

@BogeyTheBear

7 күн бұрын

@@ianoconnor1515 The most advanced Replicators emulate a human form, but are composed entirely of metallic dust.

The assimilators get assimilated interesting.

@jamriki

Ай бұрын

Who watches the watchers? And who assimilated the assimilators?

Well, the Borg don't use projectile weapons so they wouldn't be able to stop any of the replicators boarding them.

Not to mention that said replicator borg ship would be enhanced significantly from its normal specs.

@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer

Ай бұрын

Especially since it'll have Asgard technology They can beam themselves into ships with no shields But they have harpoons that bypass shields to infest other ships

It's not about energy weapons. It's about assimilation/digestion. The replicators try not to destroy an enemy ship completely. They want to disable it so they can absorb their technology. The Asgard didn't quite understand this concept and kept making more and more advanced technology. Their final starship was the O'Neill. It was irresistible to the replicators and made the perfect bait. SG-1 understood the way to beat the replicators was to attack with primitive weapons they already assimilated.

@ryker1305

16 күн бұрын

Ja, später waren primitiven Waffen ebenso wirkungslos. Da half nur noch Antiker-Technologie, die die Replikatoren besiegen können.

0:44 Comedians are like Highlanders. There can be only one. 😉

Borg nanites can repair drones even from death if needed plus the personal shields each drone has means the drones would be able to capture and assimilate bug form replicators, the borg also adapt to wepons while stargate weapon sytems tend to follow the same rules we also know that energy fields stop bug form replicators so the borg could adapt their shields to stop more replicators boarding, use forcefields to isolate infected sections and assimilate bug forms to help fight off more bug forms they can also adapt to the normal wepons.

The thing is, once the replicators took over the sphere, they would have the keys to the entire borg tech base which would of changed the match up with the 29th century borg, no guarantee they would of won but definitely would have made the last fight much more interesting.

@LZeugirdor

Ай бұрын

The borg have so much redundancy and function in a hive mind that i'm inclined to think that if the replicators assimilated the borg, the borg would simply win in a software/mental war and counterassimilate through that.

@patryn36

Ай бұрын

The replicators do not have to take over the entire ship to gain access to the tech, they would basically have root access and that info would be spread to the other blocks as fast as their communication systems would allow for. The borg are largely the same way but they have an added wrinkle since they go for the otganics as well. I do not think they would process as fast as an ai driven machine like the replicators. It would be interesting to see which nanite or nanoprobe would come out on top in a direct matchup, i would think the nanites would have an edge since they seem to be more flexible than the nanoprobes and they are seemingly immune to physical attacks.

@bobsterclause342

17 күн бұрын

One does not simply reverse enginner borg tech

@patryn36

17 күн бұрын

@@bobsterclause342 why not? Are you saying that because no writer ever wrote that? Things like this video does not go strictly what the writers made, they extrapolate based on known traits which is the whole point. The emh of voyager reverse engineered borg nanoprobes to fight off species 8472 so your premise is already terminally flawed.

A fleet of Replicators against the 29th century Cube might do the trick!

@AdmiralStoicRum

14 күн бұрын

Don't even need a fleet, just a single torpedo and those things will spread

Replicators took control, look at the enemy ship ID above the actual ship, it changes from red (enemy) to friendly (blue) 👍🏼

I think this would be a game of one side assimilating a bit of tech then the other doing the same. Any fight would probably last for ages.

@pikadroo

16 күн бұрын

Ah, so you’re saying it’s sort of a stalemate. Like if either assimilating species, can’t take more than 50% of the other so they just keep going back and forth. Huh… interesting… that could be an episode of a scifi show.

You're doing it wrong, the frontal assault on the Borg is playing their game. The replicators have to allow the Borg to beam in or tractor the replicator ship in for assimilation. Then the Borg will get a crash course in rapid assimilation as the replicators pour in and literally eat the Cube.

In a similar sort of matchup, organic tech vs organic tech, I'd also love to see, (if possible), a ZPM-enhanced Wraith Hive ship vs a B5 Shadow vessel

@notanarchitect1

Ай бұрын

Yes

@danielharman572

25 күн бұрын

I concur. Yours is a most worthy idea.

Once the Borg figure out how to disrupt the replicator nanite communication, it's over for the replicators. They're just a pile of dust / scrap. Once the Replicators figure out Borg nanite technology [and how to 'replicate'/integrate it and/or improve upon it], or gain access to the Hive Mind / Borg communication network, it's over for the Borg. It just really comes down to who figures out the other's technology/weakness(es) and develops/implements disruptive/adaptive counter-measures first...

@Phoenix2312

20 күн бұрын

I just said this ion my own comment... I knew Fellow Trekkies woudl be finding a way to protect our beloved Trek... But there is an issue with how the Borg are written... They are FAR TOO OP! Somewhere in the vast Universe of Trek, there MUST BE a being that can COUNTER the Borgs main ability! A "Mortal Enemy" if you will... One that the Borg FEAR because they cannot just Adapt... Both most likely equals so any battle woudl be a coin toss over who wins, but an enemy that can none teh less render their greatest strength redundant... Certainly across MULTIVERSES, there has to be one... We cannot keep making the Borg OP... And they are OP! They are only beaten in Star Trek as the Writers want the want be beaten! Honestly, I think even the writers have come to realise they had a wonderful and amazing idea with the Borg, but they are TOO POWERFUL! Without the Writing and Plot Contrivance They would have WIPED OUT STARFLEET... Picard or not! You could not win! Think about it - The Borg Adapt to any weapons thrown at them (Note, Its usually Ranged Energy Weapons... I guess if you could get close to a Borg it could not adapt to close range attacks but WHO WOULD WANT TO GET CLOSE TO A BORG? They are Even more Dangerous in hand to hand combat!) - So regardless of how many setting a weapon may have - Eventually every weapon woudl be USELESS! As a Hive Mind, Every part of the Hive learns the Frequency / nature of a ranged attack... Every Weapon in the Universe would become redundant! The Borg WIN! They are written quite poorly in that aspect as they are WAY TOO OVERPOWERED! Ergo, As fans... We have to come up with something... ANYTHING, even if its crossing Universes that woudl never happen such as here with Stargate... A Solution! How can we FIX the Borg... They are one of my Favourite Trek Villains, but even I can see they are deeply flawed in writing! We have to have something that make it that they are NOT all powerful - They are NOT the "Q Continuum" - Possibly the only race in Trek that can honestly and truly defeat the Borg currently! (They wont as they dont care enough... But they could!) I am 100% sure there is some Expanded Lore I am Missing, I dont read all the Star Trek Books and follow every piece of Trek Media... But form the TV Shows, YEAH - THEY ARE WAY TOO OP!

@Psych1_-

17 күн бұрын

@@Phoenix2312 The Borg were supposed to be OP, and not have a mortal enemy. They were supposed to be the Michael Myers of Star Trek. The enemy that keeps coming and you can't get away from. They were loved so much that they were ultimately overused. I forgot who it was but there was involved that really didn't like Voyager using the Borg so much. They said that they had to keep giving Voyager new ways to win that really weakened the Borg. I think introduction of the Borg Queen was stupid. What made the Borg so scary was their hive mind, and lack of emotion. The Queen gave the Borg an individual leader, destroying what made them so scary.

@Phoenix2312

17 күн бұрын

@@Psych1_- I am not so sure... The Borg Queen being the One focused Entity... Makes sense! But Overuse - 100%!!!! I dont mins so much they are OP as all hell, but even Michael Myers can be beaten... Just never truly stopped! Ad I think that's where they kind of lost the path... As you have said very rightly - Overuse meant they had to concoct way to defeat them... They should not be a Regular Villain but an Event Piece! And they should have SOME WEAKNESS that can be exploited but be DEEPLY DNAGEROUS to even attempt! You can always concoct some kind of work around for most episodes but really it should be escape rather than defeat... Any Weakness should be a TRUE EVENT PIECE where the crew really woudl be in danger if they tried... And where Main Characters could and SHOULD DIE! Make it meaningful!!! Its an issue that has sort of been handled well in DOCTOR WHO to some extent... They took ideas from Terry Nation - The creator of The Daleks, and gave them Shields... And they stop virtually EVERYTHING! - BUT... Sustained fire can break them... and there are "Weak Points where the shield is not as strong... I think teh same should be true of the Borg Adaptation ... Many weapons the Borg face are Energy Based and going by the show, They dont have a sustained rate of fire... IN essence while really Powerful, They are Slow... (Similar issue in Star Wars funnily... Many Laser Weapons in Star Wars are actually VERY SLOW WEAPONS!!!) Faced with lets say a Minigun... The Borg Adapt but the sustained rate of fire can cut through... The Borg would take Less damage of course, as they should, but its woudl also give them a small imperfection that can be exploited... Yet in the Time Period of which Star Trek is set, How many "Conventional Weapons" are really going to be around? And I am pretty sure that even Modern Version's woudl not be available on Most Starship's given they are supposed to be "Explorers" not Military! Such and Easy to add weakness, that is also DEEPLY DIFFICULT to Exploit... Even if a Starship was equipped with Rapid Fire Phasers, The Borg are Tactical, They have the intellect of BILLIONS of Species ... And their shields while they can now be penetrated are still going to hold enough to prevent most shots hitting... They woudl target that vessel first! See how a Simple Weakness can still leave them OP but not unbeatable?

@meoff7602

15 күн бұрын

Even the replicator disrupted gun was only effective if you knew the exact frequency to fire it at.

The replicators are on an entirely different, higher level than the Borg. The Asgard could take out the Borg like 8472 did. And the Asgard almost lost to the Replicators. That's how big of a mismatch this is.

@accywacky2699

Ай бұрын

To be fair, Borg tech level is higher than what the replicators have managed to aquire over in the stargate setting. But the replicators seem far more effective at being sneaky and proactive about assimilating and infiltrating the advanced technologies and systems of their adversaries. So it pretty much depends on if the borg can do what the asgardians couldnt quite do and adapt to replicator infiltration and subversion tech before replicators can adapt to the nanobots and such on the borg side. And the borg have always been notoriously slow to respond and react to things where the replicators tend to never make the same mistake twice.

@PKPhoenix83

Ай бұрын

@@accywacky2699 The Borg are absolutely not more advanced than the Replicators. In terms of weapons, the Replicators are immune to weapons fire from an Asgard Beliskner Class vessel and it takes being hit by several O'Neills before being destoryed. A Beliskner can one or two shot a Ha'tak. Ha'taks aren't damaged by 1 gigiton explosions and can sit inside a star's corona for several hours. Replicators can travel galaxy to galaxy in minutes. Their human form models use nanobots as their base and are resistant to all projectile and all energy weapons except one type. Borg drones and even the Queen can be destoryed by a 1920's Tommy Gun or phasers. Generally, everything Stargate is significantly more powerful than anything Trek. The exception being 8472 and the various energy beings like the Q, Organians, etc.

@accywacky2699

Ай бұрын

@@PKPhoenix83 So in the movie First Contact, (Not one of the best startrek movies to be fair, but it has the Borg!) This was in the era where the federation had already armed and geared itself for fighting the borg, also post-dominion war so plenty of time and effort put into making their ships as powerful as they could reasonably be military wise. One Single borg cube made its way to earth, starting well beyond federation territory, getting hit and blasted by pretty much every ship the federation could muster to intercept it, and it still made it to earth close enough to deliver a TIME TRAVELING payload. only reason it went down really was because Picard used his post-assimilation (they got him out, naturally) link to the borg to essentially get them to tell him where they should shoot the cube to make it go boom. To restate that bit though, the borg are Capable of time travel, they just generally do not use this because messing with timelines is dangerous and there's actual temporal factions that would likely step in if they started abusing it too much. But the borg certainly could and would use it if facing a foe they cant overcome any other way. Hang out in the sun? Borg cubes can do that easily for however long is necessary. If the borg are familiar with a weapon's features and traits, they absolutely can work up a flawless defense against it. The Asgard's big flaw was always around being able to improvise or innovate on things where the federation is very, very good at technobabbling their way to a solution to pretty much any problem. But when faced with borg personal shields the only thing the federation could do was outfit their troops with variable frequency phaser rifles that cycle through various viable frequencies randomly. The problem is that even with that, you only get to kill a few drones, maybe 10 or 20, maybe 100, before the rest have adapted to all the frequencies the rifle has to use. A single borg cube carries and can deploy thousands of drones and will not give a damn about casualties if it leads to aquiring new technologies or biological traits/species. I am also aware of the scene in first contact where picard guns down a couple of borg drones using a tommy gun generated by the holodeck they was on at the time which is the main reason why the attack worked so well... Evidently noone's ever weaponized hologram technology like that before against the borg but you can count on that if he tried to just bunker down and gun drones down they would have adapted and overrun him in short order. It is quite safe to assume that Neither the replicators nor the borg invented the technology they each use to traverse the universe, stargate technology already allows for intergalactic transit pretty much instantaneously and while equivalent tech exists in the star wars setting, the borg do not have it (because the universe would pretty much be screwed if they did). But I would argue that federation tech trumps asgardian and goa'uld tech more often than not. I mean... compare the staff and stunner goa'uld made use of to ye old standard issue federation phaser. The phaser has superior firepower to the staff in a pistol sized package while also having a variable stun setting (that does Not risk killing the target if you accidentally zap them twice). Asgard weapons tech is in theory more impressive but I cant recall their personal or ship-side weapons performing feats that a federation, let alone a borg cube, could not equal or surpass but feel free to provide examples if you know of any. Borg make use of nanobots/tech as well, both with a fair bit of science fantasy rather than science as to what nanobots can actually, reasonably, be expected to do. But it's debatable which of them use it 'better'. The borg do assimilate and integrate biological components from various species they assimilate, then engineer and/or clone the better stuff for their combat drones which are considerably more formidable than their basic utility drones. Species 8472 where able to stump the borg due to having an immune system so aggressive that it will attack and kill other organisms simply by getting some of their blood splattered onto another organism, they would be more than able to do the same to the replicators and ultimately the borg did get handed the key to assimilating the species in the end, it just took them a lot of time and a Lot of drones (and some help from the voyager crew). But quite independent of the voyager series, the Borg and species 8472 went to war in the continuity of the star trek online mmorpg and as an ominous plot point of one of the story missions, the borg Did succeed in assimilating and using the infamous species to make new, boss-grade drones. The Q are effectively godlike entities and are essentially capable of doing anything the writer for a particular episode wants them to do, so if they get involved neither borg nor replicator stands a chance Unless that's what the writer wants to happen. In the end, its up to the author of a given crossover story which of the two is superior at the assimilation and adaptation game. Circumstances matter enormously in terms of how the two factions encounter each other and, ultimately? I imagine the two would quickly merge into a single faction since they both want essentially the same things which is to find and incorporate new technologies (with the borg being smart enough to realize that organic systems can be valuable too, the replicators only scratch the surface of this possibility near the end of their story in the star gate shows). Though the Borg are considerably more aggressive and expansionist where the replicators, unless there's a human-type replicator around to direct them, will mostly just keep to themselves unless they detect superior tech or get attacked. Ultimately I'd say this is what makes the borg more advanced: The replicators only look at technology where the borg will take the tech And the creatures that created said technology and extract every bit of benefit they can from the process. They use tactics like assimilating the strongest and more exceptional members of a hostile (well, resisting qualifies) species to then use those specimens to facilitate more efficient and effective assimilation of the species as a whole. The borg have also already assimilated a multitude of alien species and their technologies where the replicators basically are stuck with asgardian, goa'uld and earth tech. So while both are great at learning and assimilating new things the borg will start off more advanced which is an edge at least.

@PKPhoenix83

Ай бұрын

@@accywacky2699 The Borg have never been able to survive inside a star. Remember Lore's ship? Or the Borg Sphere that was destoryed in the nebula after One took it inside? While strong, they aren't nearly Asrard or Replicator strong. Asgard and Rep ships being made out of a neutronium composite. While the Borg were able to destroy the production line version of the Planet Killer, which was made out of neutronium, in the book Probe, that was non canon.

@accywacky2699

Ай бұрын

@@PKPhoenix83 Like I mentioned, neither the borg nor the replicators can claim to have invented most if not all the technology they use, at best they assimilate and repurpose things. Plus the federation and other factions have access to shield tech that allows for extended if not indefinite stays in a sun, pretty sure there have been chances for the borg to assimilate people, computers and so on with access to said tech so they should have it too. It's just clearly not something they keep active at all times, much like most of their defensive options as they seem to prefer getting hit by something before pulling up a counter to that something. Again, the borg have assimilated thousands of species and their technologies, they have Time Travel as an option. Plus if star gate shows us anything it is that the replicators are vulnerable to relatively simple if not downright crude technologies like kinetic weapons and unlike the Asgard, the borg are very much capable of exploiting this. Again like I said earlier it all really comes down to which of the two is more able to assimilate and subvert the other, the borg are more versatile and have way more tech, knowledge and experience than the replicators do but the replicators have an advantage at operating with a relatively small group of replicators and tend to be faster at switching gears where the borg... well they're as square as their cubes. Ultimately I would expect them to simply fuse and combine to the point that they become one faction instead.

Replicators are 100% terrifying. Unlike the Borg they are not handicapped by needing to convert organic matter to grow, yet as shown in Ark of Truth and in Atlantis, can convert and assimilate organics if they so choose. They also arguably have an even stronger grasp on temporal technology, able to reverse a time dilation field in such a way as to moonwalk out of a black hole. The Borg would end up absolutely overrun right up until the Replicators manage to hijack the collective and then it'd be over.

That would be a match made in heaven. The humaniform replicators would very likely represent the very perfection the Borg seek.

I think the borg would win against regular replicator maybe but against the human form no way, what would be interesting is I think this would more come down to a nanite vs nanite battle

@jenniferstewarts4851

Ай бұрын

i don' even thing they would win against regular replicators. first problem... borg... wouldn't see them as a threat at first... they would start eating the borg ship, just chowing down and replicating... by the time they react, borg shields would be useless, borg weapons are useless... they learn by assimilating but theres nothing their nanites would or could do here... so the only option and most likely option is the queen would sacrafice the ship, blow it up and hope... except as we know, spiders might survive that and keep eating, and either lay in wait for something to show up or... if they finish their dinner, convert themselves into a ship and go hunting another cube.

I loved this matchup. I've been wanting to see this exact battle of nanotech-derived race vs nanotech-derived race...for a very long time..

The civilizations of Star Trek all have a reliance on their superior technology that bears a striking resemblance to the Asgard. And like the Asgard, they would likely have no viable defense against the Replicators. That goes for the Borg too.

Well the replicators are pretty much the inorganic species 8472, so probably spot on

borg queen would become bug queen with 6 spider legs on her back and call herself kerrigan.

The Borg have nanobots, Replicators _are_ nanobots with an even higher capacity for adaptation.

This title is a question that I asked myself long time ago. A Video of this is fantastic and I never imagined that happened. Thank you👍

Also for a future matchup, have the fight that we didn't get to see in The Ark of Truth. The Replicators versus The Ori. Amd then The Borg versus The Ori.

@jamriki

Ай бұрын

Ugghhh... imagining an assimilated Ori Prior now.

Depends on how you do "scaling" in different universes and how you handle "convenient writing". Replicators have nearly unsurpassed power vs. high tech enemies that stubbornly rely exclusively on high-tech weapons, ships, etc. to combat them while obviously [low level basic replicators] are vulnerable to low tech attacks and strategies. So the Borg written as "can adapt to any enemy" would wipe the replicators before they get started. On the other hand the Borg that let enemies on their ship and don't do jack until the enemy becomes obviously violent wouldn't stand a chance because it would be "too late" for them to do anything. In their respective universes the Replicators are a imminent threat to anything not at the level of the "ancients" while the Borg are a medium-high threat to the heroes but to high tech civilizations [which are a dime a dozen in Star Trek] they're no more of a menace than the Goa'uld (sp?) is in the stargate universe.

I'd argue that the Borg would lose, because they are primarily assimilating organic creatures. When the Borg encountered Species 8472, they were unable to do anything against them initially, as they were unable to assimilate them. I'd argue that would be the same with the Replicators. And while the Borg are unable to assimilate the Replicators (being made of metal and not flesh), the Replicators would be eating away at the Borg and making more of themselves. Replicators are also able to feast on most (if not all) materials, whereas the Borg are limited to Organics. Thinking about it, I think the Replicators would steam roll the Borg in the long run, as they are able to adapt as quickly as the Borg, are able to feast on pretty much everything and are resistant/immune to energy weaponry. Even destroying Replicator ships doesn't save the Borg, as Replicators can survive in space. If the Borg were to bring any over (to study) they would be attacked from within (at least the first few times).

😨😳Gosh.. I saw that request and eeh seen a few shows just recently with those darn Replicators gosh worst than the Borg... this will be good eeh.. Freaky how the Replicators take over the the ships gosh.. eeh. Imagine Replicator Borgs oh gosh.. 😳From the battle with the Ent F and most of the Borg ships, gosh.. I never expected that. wow. but the 29th Century one hmm I wonder.. this was crazy battle .. and from what Thor said, SG-1 guns worked but advance tech no.. hmm.. love the battle Admiral.. and eeh the sound and the spider thingies gosh.. 😊🖖

Borg Queen: " Say? where is that can of Raid?; can anyone tell me". Drone 1010101010101010101010101010110: " We ran out last night using it on Captain Pickard's crew".

Ty for the video and LLAP!

Borg are more about assimilating biological Species and dealing with "normal" Shiphardware. Their Nanites would have trouble with the Replicator-Blocks. While the Replicators simply eat the Borg-cube, multiplying and absorbing their Tech while doing so. .... and if these wouldnt be the Replicator-Blocks, but the Humanoid Replicators with their Nano-Blocks, i think the Borg could loose pretty fast. In worst Case, they befriend each other.

The borg are susceptible to physical injury. Plus the acid of the replicators have never been countered. Plus the energy absorbing materials of the replicators can draw/neutralize any borg weapon. Not to mention, the replicators can launch themselves on the haul, and consume the material to make more. The borg lose every time

Its an interesting battle but im struggling to think what the borg could do to resist it as the drone are phaser based in battle

Lol. That was good. The Assimalation Cube bedn taken over by the replicators was funny but the 29th Century Cube destroying your ship even better.

An individual borg vessel is toast. However the borg are a collective kind of like a hive mind so the more the borg encounter the replicators the more they learn to adapt. So while the replicators can defeat a single borg ship they're not able to defeat the entire borg collective. That is unless they invade non borg civilisations to bulk up their numbers.

@onidaaitsubasa4177

13 күн бұрын

Hmm they could if they disrupt the communications of whatever ship board, then the rest of the collective wouldn't be able to get new information on them

It comes down to nanites, who can make the smaller nanite to overtake the other.

It was the Cube that the Replicators took over, Not the Borg itself. Which allowed the self destruction. Wonder if the game would notice and simulate the Cube being taken over in a 2 or 3 on 1. And the other(s) to be able adapt to the Replicators.

There's the regular Fusion Cube is 16 regular Borg Cubes and then there's the Tactical Fusion Cube. The Fusion Cubes has 4 redundant Vinculum. And then the Mega Fusion Cube is 16 Fusion Cubes which is the size of a small planet. In the fanfic by Chris Robato, ST: Athena, a future Sovereign class USS Premonition timeship went back in time and used a RiftWave WMD device to destroy the Mega Fusion Cube. The WMD device creates a subspace shockwave and then creates a subspace Rift to suck in the remaining parts to ensure there's no leftover Borg parts to regenerate itself.

It would be pretty scary if the Borg ever assimilated the he Replicators.

Alittle surprised it was replicator blocks and not human form replicators because the human forms would win hands down but both the borg and replicators constantly adapt to changing variables i would something like replicators borg hybrid would emerge

Shoot man, I forgot all about the replicators. Looks like I have to go watch SG1 all over again... 😅

Okay......i'm impressed. i guess shoe is on the other foot now. But wich one is worse? Borg or Replicator?

The spider replicators from the Asgard's galaxy were different than the Ancient's humanoid replicators.

@AJDRAGON01

15 күн бұрын

The spider replicators from the Asgard's galaxy became a far superior replicator dew to being trapped in the time dilation field for 15000 years.

@gregmarsters2434

15 күн бұрын

@@AJDRAGON01 Didn't the Ancient's replicators hook directly into Daniel's ascended knowledge?

if you destroy a sphere or cube, the whole borg collected is updated, so the next time you fight them they already have "adapted" this is NOWHERE near cannon

There is a comedian that had the premise that to Boldly go ( boldlygo ) Is a place and when are they going to get there And not an action "Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man has gone before!"

I think yes Replicators could however do you want to deal with what such a thing means for the rest of the others?

I’d say, as a fan of both universes, that the Borg would likely ignore the boarding spiders, at least until they touch something the Borg don’t want them touching (but by then it might be too late. Plus the Borg drones are a bit limited in offensive capabilities. Mostly just disruptors, shields, and those nano bot injectors on their wrists. Sufficient for most threats native to the Trek franchise, but probably not enough to contend with some other franchises) So once you’re replicator torpedo had a successful impact, you pretty much won, which is why the replicators were feared so much in the Stargate universe. Also attrition works in the replicators favor. The Borg would struggle to replace lost drones, while the replicators would replicate. Lol

In fact I would be surprised at all, they both use Nanite Technology, but the only difference is Borg Nanoprobes are DESIGNED to assimilate any Technology they come across, I wouldn't be surprised if the Borg Nanoprobes have already assimilated the Nanites in the Spider version of the Replicators.

i'd imagine the borg would be feeling quite smug, until the ship started coming to pieces around them, munched up be little clattering Reppies

You either die a borg queen or live long enough to become assimilated.

If the Borg did win, they would be even more formidable with that new technology. They would be able to fire replicators that are loaded with Nanoprobes at ships and the replicators would just run around assimilating the crew and the ship.

I think they would team up

@AdmiralStoicRum

14 күн бұрын

There must be a highform replicator personality then, which means the Borg are screwed wholly

That Borg Sphere looks like a tiny death star.

Hey, before I knew anything about this game this was my very first request I put in my very first comment on your videos!

I'm fairly certain that the Borg could come up with a shotgun.

@meoff7602

15 күн бұрын

How? They are to advance to think like that. By the time they do. It would be to late.

Having watched both Stargate and Star Trek in their entireties, I think the Replicators are worse! The Borg should count their blessings that they never ran into the Replicators in Canon because otherwise, they may never have had an opportunity to develop into the 29th century version able to defeat them! I imagine the Replicators would've been the greatest threat to the Borg since Species 8472. 8472 might even have a tough time with the Replicators! If you haven't already, you should try 8472 vs. the Replicators and see what happens 🙂🖖

DS9 with defiant vs Borg attack with assimilated federation ships?

Borg assimilation vs Replicator assimilation.Good choice,

Whatever nerd thought this up, I am equally interested:)

I have always wanted to know who'd win in this battle

Is there a video essay about this somewhere?

In the last fight, the replicators would have simply crashed into the 29th cent Cube instead of shooting a nanite missile.

feel like the simulation doesnt take into all factors, a borg cube for instance is comprised of hundreds of thousands of independent cells working collectivly, if replicators assimilated a bunch of rooms on the cube, the borg would just cut that section off and ou could never truely gain control while any of the borg remain alive. both races also use nanobots/nanites as components and tools, the better programming i imagine would win over, so it would come down to the number of each collective and its ability to process fast enough to beat the other which would be inconcievable to figure out and would depend on where in each story you are drawing from. the borg also are only interested in tech they dont have so if they are better then the replicators they would ignore the replicators while the replicators would just look at borg as food anyway.

so you gave borg queen the crabs...

If the replicators manage to replicate - yes - Neelixs cooking then the universe is in real trouble…

thing is, whats not happening in this, the borg ships the replicators took over, they would have been in the last fight, given that, the battle may have played out differently.

Every inch and every fraction of an inch of a replicator ship can operate on its own, and has the potential to eat and assimilate whatever it comes into contact with. Using a tractor beam on a replicator ship would be a mistake. In fact, if things were going bad, the best move would probably be to ram the cube. The replicator ship can always reassemble itself. The Borg can make nanites, but they are specialized machines. They are designed to act on organic beings. The Borg is a collective of beings that are controlled by a central source, while the replicators are microscopic beings that can operate independently or as a collective. The replicators can potentially operate on a microscopic level and assimilate the Borg nanites. The Borg have no way to assimilate the replicators on that level. The replicators don't need a special missile to assimilate a ship. Any debris floating around from the replicator ship, that comes into contact with another ship can start eating/assimilating the other ship. Once the replicators learn how the Borg communicate, then they can take over the subspace communication, and literally take the collective over. The replicators are superior and more efficient, because each microscopic unit can think for itself. The Borg are at a disadvantage, because they are centrally controlled. Borg technology, once destroyed, is no longer useful, while destroyed replicator technology can potentially reassemble itself. A Borg drone really has no defense, if its technology is taken over & repurposed as replicator hardware. The Borg can't repurpose their own molecules to regain functionality. A replicator ship only needs to lead an enemy ship through the debris trail, if it starts taking damage.

I want to see a simulation where the shapeshifters of deep space nine and the great link take on the board

Yeah Stargate Command and Atlantis hated the Replicators. Hell even Cam Mitchell did and he read about them before joining SG-1. From THE ARK OF TRUTH: Cam: Yeah we got a little Replicator problem. Jackson: Whoa, did you say Replicator? Cam: Yeah.... Hertis: What's a replicator? Teal'c: You do not wish to know. From Atlantis Episode "Be All My Sins Remembered": McKay: Would you like to do the honors? John: No. McKay: Alright, M7R-227, you were a constant pain in the ass. It's good to see you go. (presses a button, the planet designation disappears) John: If only it was that easy in real life. McKay: Mmm, Area 51 is working on it. -Side note: M7R-227 was the designation for the Replicator's homeworld in the Pegasus galaxy. Yup not much can take over the 29th Century Borg Cube. Regarding infecting a regular Borg cube, sphere, Assimilation cube and even a tactical cube... yeah I can see it happening and the Replicators taking over a Borg ship at least from the 24th Century. The Replicators as we know love to hide in areas that they aren't easily found. I'm sure the Replicators would be impervious to the Borg scanning capabilities. Also it's not like Drones would be actively searching for them manually like members of SG-1, Atlantis or even the Asgard would.

Here is an idea. How about the borg vs the dominion? That would be a good battle.

it looks like the bigger the Borg ship is it’s easier for the replicators to assimilate it… question for you if Lieutenant commander data was attacked by one of those do you think The replicators could get him, even with his posit Tronic brain?

@RetroBadgerGaming

Ай бұрын

😲 I would fear for Data.. I like to think his brain is unhackable, but the Replicators are certainly adaptive. The Borg couldn't assimilate him though. What do you think?

@nickreckers5282

Ай бұрын

You know, I was thinking about this for a while how to respond, and the way how the Borg was always betrayed as they were always like to use an analogy. They were a sledgehammer basically just brute force and that’s why they couldn’t assimilate data. Now with the replicators with their Technology and the fact they were able to basically take control over the Borg themselves I think he could be in theory. However, with data having plot armor, I think he would be completely immune lol!!!

@AdmiralStoicRum

14 күн бұрын

So there was an entity that is pretty much the same thing as data, of course she was very likely the origin point for the replicators as she used her own nanotechnology to take metals and make her own little friends which were the block form replicators. After she was viewed as a threat, the replicators studied her technology and replicated it. Which is what will happen to Data. They will also develop a personality based on the tech

This wouldve been an epic cross over especially if they merged and became a ehole new species.... the only thing that could probably stop that would be the magog world ship

I would love to see this in a real series or movie cross over! Alas, that will never happen

I wonder what a 29th century replicator ships would be like since they are from 1998 earth period.

Borg nanobots vs replicator macrobots. Interesting 🖖

@AdmiralStoicRum

14 күн бұрын

Until the macro bots say, hey this is kinda cool, and respecs those nanobot producers...

You need to do the borg attacking the replicators see of its an element of favoring the player in your simulations

Logically 50/50 as replicators are mostly nanites and the assimilation conflict to gain ground over rural Nantucket’s is via virus or anti virus tactics, akak one overrides the other by 50/50 chance

I would assume the replicators would like to get tractored to the Borg cube, after all why fight them when the will invite the spiders in?

@exexpat11

20 күн бұрын

Assimulate us! Please do. Then we will reorganize you at a molecular level like you've never been Assimulated. Heh! Heh!

It makes me wonder what would happen if the borg came across a fully human replicator colony, like the ones from Atlantis? They function very much similarly to one another, but the Borg take over people and the replicators don't care to. It would be interesting to see if the borg and replicators work together or go to war with eachother as competing archetypes of a big bad.

@AdmiralStoicRum

14 күн бұрын

Oh those asherans would not like the Borg, I think they would go on an extermination campaign, and then turn around and win.

@AdmiralStoicRum

14 күн бұрын

Asuran*

Are the replicators not working on a same level as the Borg? Both using nanotechnology and nanites? Borg nanites assimilate everything technology, but Replicators could constant replicate again. On paper this would appear more like a stalemate, although I would be leaning more toward the Borg taking over since more and more of the Replicator nanites would function as Borg nanites.

This reminds me of one of the early victories of AI over humans. GDW made an expansion of its Traveller pen and paper RPG series called Trillion Credit Squadron. You'd get a trillion credits to design a fleet of ships, and pit it in combat against someone else's trillion credit fleet. To publicize it, GDW held an annual TCS contest, with the winners getting prize money. Some guy decided to write a program to create the optimal fleet design. When he showed up for the contest, everyone else laughed at how stupid his fleet was. Then he won. The next year, he won again. The third year, GDW told him that if he entered again, they would cancel the contest. Except for size, every ship in his fleet was identical. There were no capital ships, no escorts, no screening destroyers or frigates. Everything was the same. This turned out to capitalize on a weakness of the traditional fleet design. If you concentrate most of your firepower (say 50%) in your capital ships (say 20% of your fleet), then specifically targeting and eliminating that 20% of your fleet meant your fleet's effectiveness has dropped by 50% from just a 20% loss. OTOH, the AI-generated fleet would only suffer a 20% loss in effectiveness if it lost 20% of its ships. Basically the AI fleet was free to use strategy to counter human fleets, but there was no way for human fleets to gain a strategic advantage against the AI fleet. That's basically what the replicators are. Ever replicator is the same, so destroying one only fractionally damages the whole. There's literally no head for you to chop off to kill them. The Borg could beat and assimilate some of them. But as long as there are other replicators around with plenty of material (planets, other civilizations) to consume and replicate, they'll still survive. They're like cockroaches. Unless you kill them _all_ at the same time (how Stargate dealt with them), they'll still continue to multiply, grow, harass, and eventually beat you. In the Borg's case, once the replicators figure out how to invade and disrupt the Borg's C&C network (i.e. chop off the head), the Borg are toast. It's like ants vs roaches. The colony structure of ant society may make for better coordination and faster growth. But the hierarchical structure creates vulnerabilities that roaches are immune to, and (if they were fighting each other) that roaches could exploit.

Replicators aren't nanite immune. Why would not put that into the equation? Borg nanites are very fast.

@meoff7602

15 күн бұрын

If anything the next wave of replicators would be Borg tech based. Neutralizing that advantage. Replicators absorb new technology just as quickly.

The Borg don't have slug throwers, how do they deal with the spiders? From SG1 we see the spiders just eat any energy weapons fired at them.

Before watching, I would say that the Replicators would win in the end. The borg would assimilate the blocks easily but over time the replicators would manage to create the nanite replicators used in the human form replicators. They would create a program that overrides the nanoprobe software and regain control. During that process it is likely the replicators would create an alternative armored form. Standard blocks on the outside of a human form assembly, this would allow the nanoprobes to enter the blocks and be reprogrammed into a weapon to override the collective while the drone reads the probes as safe. In an all out war I would expect the replicators to nearly reach defeat at the hands of the borg but as soon as they program the first human form replicators the balance of power would tip quickly tward the replicators I would expect the first few days would be the borg take over.

I'm the evil Carter, and I've joined forces with the Borg and given them the anti-replicator weapon. 😄 Honestly, I don't know... this was a good idea. Will they adapt, or will the Replicators win? I'll have to see. Edit: I guess they can't 😆 You're right, they couldn't adapt to their ship being eaten. Now who's assimilating whom?😀

@jamriki

Ай бұрын

"I am Replicarter of Borg. You will not be assimilated. Our new goal is to cleanse the universe of weaker beings. Resistance is futile."

@retluoc

Ай бұрын

@@jamriki That's a good one... Think of what would happen if the Borg and Replicators became one. We'd almost have no hope. 😄

@jamriki

Ай бұрын

@@retluoc Our heroes would come up with something. Data, Sam, Geordi, and McKay can work on the anti-Repliborg tech while Worf, Teal'c, and Ronon take down as many as they can the old fashioned way! Then Barclay and Zelenka have an idea... the three bald guys, Picard, Hammond, and Woolsey are all anxious to hear the plan!

@meoff7602

15 күн бұрын

Well being is the anti replicator gun only works for the first couple of shots. I'd say everything is okay.

I would love to see the borg vs the asurrans

Ah. In actual though wouldn't the Replicators just try to make contact even by crashing into the Borg to take their ship over? Also the Borg might want to be taken over to become even more powerful with the Replicators merging with them. Just another way of Assimulating. The Replicators are very devastating. The Borgs only chance in a fight is to destroy the Replicators fast. Also don't the Replicators absorb energy so mostly only physical projectile weapons like shotguns slow them down? Interesting as these two are so close to each other in their goals. MAKE EVERYTHING US!

Simple answer....YES. WHY IS THIS A QUESTION?

If the Borg nanoprobes don't work then the Borg are helpless

I guess the 29th century drone would beam aboard and kill the replicators just buy touching them. May take a while though😅

How has Richard Dean Anderson never been cast in the Star Trek episode? At least a cameo. 🙄

You have to upload a fractal to the Borg.

Well force fields and energy weapons don't work very will against Replicators. So well. lol

I would say that they aye able to destroy the replicator ship but if you fired the replicator missle and it hit, the borg wouldn’t be able to stop them imo.

Is this based on facts or just made up stats?

Spiders! Why did it have to be spiders.

Always loved the Borg, Their Adaptive capability does make them dangerous... But with that said, I am sure that there woudl be some race that can overcome it... Or that there may be some weakness! In Star Trek, we mainly see them adapt to long range fire, suggesting that the Borg are generally so dangerous that going toe-to-toe with them woudl be Lethal anyway... I am not familiar with The Replicators but it does sound to me as though this may be one way of getting past heir adaptive capabilities. But two different franchises, I know many Trekkies will be vehemently defending their beloved Franchise - And HEY! I LOVE STAR TREK... Yet we have to be honest - As Written, The Borg can be WAY TOO OP! No Sci-Fi Race is perfect! There has to be a way to break the Borgs adaptation... Even if its only one other race that can!