こういうさりげない場面の音楽でもさりげなく美しく楽しい音楽を作れるのが　流石植松さん

発売から24年経った今でもルールがよくわからないカードゲーム ギロの音がいいアクセントになっていて好きな曲です

@Zelink108

Ай бұрын

Tell me about it.

Perfect relaxing music for the card mini-game.

Simple ELI5 on how to play the game: Each card has 4 numbers. Ex: 1P01 First number means: attack power Second letter means: attack type (M = magical or P = physical) Third number means: armor (physical defense) Fourth number means: magic defense With that numbers you'll know it's pretty straightforward. Bigger attack power > lower defense. Rng happens when you attack with a card that has equal or lower number than the defending card or vice versa. A lot of starter game cards are mostly 1s and 0s so it happens a lot early in the game which leads to the misconception that the entire card game is just RNG.

@MrMarket1987

Ай бұрын

A good way to simplify it, but also too simplified. P and M generally appear on that attack type, but there's also X and A. X targets the weaker of the two _defense_ stats. A targets _whatever is the weakest stat, whether it's an attack value or one of the defensive ones._ Also, pretty sure there's still RNG in bigger numbers, they're just not nearly as much of a factor the bigger the gap between combatting numbers and total stats are.

@sorf5041

Ай бұрын

@@MrMarket1987 there's only a handful of cards with X and A so explaining those unnecessarily makes it sounds more complicated than it does. I'm trying to dumb it down as much as possible.

@MrMarket1987

Ай бұрын

@@sorf5041 Actually, I was made to understand they're just rarer to get within each type, but you CAN get all of your cards to be X and A types if I recall correctly.

@dansmith1661

Ай бұрын

Simpler way to play the game: Everything is RNG and you will lose if the game feels like it.

@Excalibrarienses

26 күн бұрын

​@@MrMarket1987 you recall it correctly , you can evolve any card by using it a lot . It will upgraded to X and if you keep using it then it will be upgraded to A .

ゲーム内での説明があまり十分にされず、されているところも簡単なチュートリアルとダリの村のアイテム屋の壁に掲示されている張り紙だけというもの しかもそれだけではゲームの全容がわからないというオマケ付き でも攻略本を読み込んで理解すればめちゃくちゃ面白いのです 正直FFシリーズのミニゲームの中で一番好きと言っても過言じゃない。運要素がありどんなに強いカードを持っていても負けうる、どんな強い相手でも勝ちうるところに魅力を感じる。 昔全カード矢印被り無し最強育成をしたのを思い出します…

最もルールの分からないカードゲームとずっと思ってたけど 最近FF7REBIRTHのクイーンズブラッドがそれを超えた

初プレイ時は左から2番目の記号がポイントってわからなかった p、m、a、x、最近になってようやく理解してきた…

数値では弱くても矢印が多ければコンボパーツとして使えるのがクアッドミストの面白いところかも

8のカードはやり込んだけど9のカードは全然わからなくてすぐに投げちゃった記憶…いつかリベンジしたい

all fine and dandy until you lose your fav cards 😅 *reloads game*

このカードゲームはとても奥が深く、やり込み要素の一つになっている カードを全て集めるのには多くの時間はかかるが、集め終わると達成感があり、オススメのミニゲーム FF9は、ひとつひとつのミニゲームが作り込まれており、何時間でも遊べる

best card game music ever

There's sadly only two tangible rewards through and around this lovely if woefully unexplained minigame within the game itself unless you go out of your way for it. During the Treno card tournament, Eiko can get a Chimera Armlet for free in one of the ATEs. While winning the 3rd and final round nets you a Rebirth Ring... Aside from that, a nice little card game, really. But there really should have been more rewards for, say, beating people/masters a first time or multiple times to REALLY make it more compelling to play... And explain the FULL mechanics upfront!

Awesome [Video Soundtrack] Tetra Master [FINAL FANTASY IX] Video.

Good enough to corrupt my save on.

Played countless hours on it. Sometimes just booted the game for a few parties in treno. I wish we could haveire rewards with it.

If only square made it clear from the start what the numbers meant people will realize there isnt actually that much RNG at all! Such a baffling decision to keep the rules obscure which gave the impression its randomly winning and losing.

@dansmith1661

Ай бұрын

I lost too many times to numbers less than half my own. Xenogears gives you 99% chance to reach Infinity Level and flub it five times straight. Square is bad at math.

カードはトータルで100枚しか持てなくて100種類集めるのに同じカードを複数枚持てないのが残念じゃった😁

How did you get that many cards with many arrows ?

@MrMarket1987

Ай бұрын

Honestly, there's not a single card you can find/earn that can't come with more arrows than less. Each time you find one in a chest, get it handed over, or win it from battle, the number of arrows ranging from 0-8 is entirely random. That means, on average, you'll mostly get cards with 3-5 arrows unless you really take your time or even reset the game to get rarer cards with more arrows.

The most misunderstood card game. Many call it RNG because they dont undetstand how it works. But if you actually know what youre doing there is 0 RNG involved. RNG only happens if the attack and defense is the same, so each side has to roll the dice.

@xOmniCloudx

Ай бұрын

Did SE ever explain all the rules of the game? Regardless, what you said on its own sounds overly complicated for a mini game.

@MarioGomez-yi6gs

Ай бұрын

@@xOmniCloudx it works like triple triad. Only difference is that attack and defense are separate numbers but it is for all sides instead of for 4 unique numbers for each direction like in triple triad. In an event of same numbers, a dice roll occurs to get the Victor. Dumbass square just decided to not explain it properly for some reason.

@MrMarket1987

Ай бұрын

It DOES have RNG. The HP/Number value as cards clash can in fact have a small but notable variety of results, though generally the higher the stat of a card vs the one it is being pitted against means it works in your favor more often than not.

@MrMarket1987

Ай бұрын

@@xOmniCloudx The game itself explains it, but it weirdly makes you work for it how the details go. It's just better to look it up on the FF wiki, honestly.

@xOmniCloudx

Ай бұрын

@MrMarket1987 I see. I am curious on how to properly play it just to say I played it correctly once for the true experience. There's just so many mechanics, even including a level up one which is crazy. It seems like the type of game that makes more sense between humans than with a computer.

its still so funny to me how the cards minigame in FF8 is 1. entirely optional 2. mostly very simple to play and 3. very rewarding in the overall wider game, and the cards minigame in FF9 is 1. mandatory to win at to progress at least once 2. needlessly complex and opaque mechanically 3. rewards basically nothing that has any use outside of playing cards and 4. the only card that does anything outside of the card game can be obtained without ever playing cards

@IcyAuron

Ай бұрын

Tetra Master is much simpler than Triple Triad as soon as ANY of the other rules take effect.

@dansmith1661

Ай бұрын

It also glitches your save if you try to get all cards maxed.

Best card game.

triple triad>queens blood>tetra master never played queens blood but once VII rebirth comes out on pc i give it a try

テトラマスター好きで課金してた FF14で復活しないかな

The card game that destroyed many playthroughs 😂

８のカードより得意かもしれない

The true reason why I despise Tetra Master so much isn't becuase of the RNG, but the fact it's mandatory in order to progress through the game.

@Matt-flarestar_

Ай бұрын

In Final fantasy 8 is mandatory too

@mastersonic2022

Ай бұрын

You can beat FF8 without playing Triple Triad.

@Matt-flarestar_

Ай бұрын

@@mastersonic2022 Is a boring game if you do that way

0:00 The Tetra Master card-game mini-game: The tutorial for it sucks, all the tutorial says is "Hey, figure out the rules on your own." Hey, screw you. You made up the rules, you tell me how to play. Don't give me a card with a bunch of random stuff on it and then expect me to immediately understand it. Even FFVIII explained its own card game, 'Triple Triad', not to mention it had better theme music when playing it, unlike IX's card-game music. With IX's card-game there's a half hour long tutorial to look up , and since the game doesn't come up much during the actual plot, the player isn't expecting to have to win a couple of games to progress the storyline. Moreover, playing it the way it looks like it ought to be played (stronger cards beat weaker ones) doesn't help you much, because there's some kind of random element to it, to the point where even FAQ writers haven't been able to fully figure out how the mechanics work. Back when PlayOnline still existed, at least it revealed that strength of the cards is based off their Hexidecimal Code values. However, despite that, there is an RNG factor in the game that has such a range to it that the stats could border on meaningless. The one time you're forced to play it to progress the plot (in Treno on Disk 3) is the only time in the entire game where being good at it gets you anything besides more useless cards.

If you're remaking this game, do something about the jank of this minigame,

@IcyAuron

Ай бұрын

Don't worry, they'd find a way to ruin the mini-game if they remade FFIX, along with plenty of other stuff.

@karsten69

Ай бұрын

@@IcyAuron Ruin it more than it already is? That's a tall order.

@MrMarket1987

Ай бұрын

All it needs is for its values and how they work to be explained upfront. FF Wiki explains what they do. It's only jank because the game itself tries SO little to explain it overall, and low numbers are prone to WAY more RNG clashes compared to cards with bigger gaps clashing.

One of the biggest downgrades in gaming next to 'TLOU1 to TLOU2' is *'Triple Triad to Tetra Master.'*

Terrible card game. Pretty nice accompanying music.

Hated this card minigame. With the exception of when it was forced upon me, I never played it. 🙄

@MrMarket1987

Ай бұрын

That's sad, I rather liked it. FF wiki explains it further than the game does, in case you're ever willing to give it another shot. Granted, I completely understand that there's almost no rewards to it at all, so that's a very fair reason to not touch it past the bare minimum the story demands.