Victrola VPRO-2000 Unboxing & Review!
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Victrola's answer to the Crosley C-100 and the Audio Technica LP120! It's the VPRO-2000! Victrola Pro Series USB Record Player with 2-Speed Turntable and Dust Cover, Black.
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I don't know why watching you unbox and review (and occasionally troubleshoot) new turntables is so weirdly entertaining to me, but keep it up 👌👌👌
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
I have one and love it, I have been into records and turntables for over50 years and this is one of the best.
I'm glad you do full reviews, a purely unboxing video would probably make people buy this because it does look good upon first investigation. It packs all the punches of what someone would want in their first real turntable. But dang, back to the idea that no company really cares about anything but selling enough products they make enough profit to make up for the losses for their returns.
I've always liked the "Welcome to recordolgy" intro. I've been waiting for a review of this turntable. I have the cheaper VPRO turntable and use it for the usb option. That whole issue with the dots and strobe disc in this video is weird. I've seen a reviewer who uses an app on his phone to test turntable speeds. Almost got this turntable but opted for a Fluance RT80 instead. Good review, thank you!
I’ve had a similar experience with my Crosley C3. It was because the power cable they included wasn’t designed for use in North America despite the fact that it was a US 120v plug. So I went to my local computer store and got a working power plug with the matching voltage. And it worked! You may be having the same issue...Anyway, thanks for making this video! I’m happy to see something other than suitcases or all in one record players from Victrola...
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting
Hey man, It's a 130 to 150 dollar price point. It beats the crap out of the 99 dollar Crosley suitcase units, because it offers counter weight, anti skate and a upgrade path for different cartridges and stylus types. It won't kill someone's record collection. The average user doesn't care about a strobe. Use the quartz lock or zero out the pitch as you say, and it's fine. I've tested the speeds with an accelerometer app and checked the tracking force with a wee scale. It's all fine and I'm happy to provide a unit like this to my customers and this killer price point. Saving LP's from shite turntables is the point here. By the way, you must have a shite tonearm cue. Our demo unit works just fine. This is a great unit for the price.
8:57 A lot of play in that tonearm bearing assembly, and the entire part looks plastic. Compare it to the similar section on an arm on an AT-LP120 or a Technics SL1200. Night and day. The cue lever is farcical. Most beginners would do less damage cueing by hand. Strobe looks pointless, unless once it's at the right speed you have to push the Quartz button to lock? Hate seeing junk turntables continuing to appear. Playing LPs is fun, something like this would put you off the hobby for life.
@Beardsandbars
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePacratz There's nothing high brow about OP's comment.
This was interesting, I love seeing your unboxing/review videos! Out of curiosity, has there been any update on this? Did Victrola respond?
@Recordology
3 жыл бұрын
No update yet.....
All the pops and clicks from your microphone really help bring the vinyl vibe. Not sure if that was intentional or just a bad mic. . . but it works. Great review.
Did you also try the - if included on the bottom - adjusting the pots for the speed?
Great video! Very descriptive and in depth. Searching for a new turntable, not a fan of the arm. Gonna keep looking, thanks for the video!
@Recordology
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
FYI, Victrola Europe's own video about the VPRO-2000 shows it having soft-damped tonearm cueing, so the lack of it on yours must be a manufacturing fault: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXdnqNV6Y7S0gLQ.html They also mention a direct-drive model (the VPRO-1000) which has not been introduced yet.
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
interesting.....
I have the same strobe problem with my Boytone turntable. The strobe just did not function right. As in your case, it did not work. I was moving the pitch slider all over the place in my attempts to figure out which row of dots to use. I calibrated it fine using the Hudson strobe disc. The built-in speed is not far off, actually, but the strobe does not reflect that. Boytone tech support was no help at all.
I’m having major trouble getting mine to pair with any Bluetooth. Any ideas? Also, I can get my dots to line up, either. And my pitch adjust does nothing. Kind of frustrating.
I have such a model and I wanted to ask if it is possible to replace the system with a stylus for an ortofon and whether the arm unscrews like in the Technics or maybe the ring on the arm is just for decoration, I'm very curious about it? please reply to the users as well, thank you in advance
How many cheapo turntables do you have ??
Hopefully one day Japan will again make quality turntables like they did in the 1980's.
@johnstone7697
4 жыл бұрын
Japan still does, and you pay for it. This cheap thing is Chinese. Better than a sharp stick in the eye, but not much.
@peterstudley1804
2 жыл бұрын
The Japanese do take a look at the technics sl1200 G
I use a scale to set the tracking force and then I turn the calibration knob. A lot faster and easier than trying to get the tone arm to float.
After purchasing several of these Vpros, I would say the damping problem is a defect in the unit you purchased. I was very interested in whether or not you ever heard back from Victrola on the STROBE issue? All of the units I have tested only lock in with platter dots at 45 RPM only.
Stir Crazy is right, but being an essential worker, I thank God I'm able to go out to my job and see my office and not just home. That turntable looks pretty sweet.
I am still using my Pioneer PL-L70 linear tracking turntable I bought in 1986. It is direct drive, has a tracking force of about 1 gram, and has no skating issues by design.
You push both 33 and 45 buttons to play 78s, just like the Audio Technica 120.
The first one I got have problems in between tonearm and cartridge, run to close to the vinyl that make it skip typically on the first song of every record. After several days dealing with Victrola and Covid-19 in the middle finally returned and they send a replacement. This one work fine, but; they are chip. I'm hopping ahead to get a better turntable but always good to be back to vinyl.
Is there a way to fix the problem with the strobe? Greetings!
Hello I love your vids i like to watch them over and over . Question: do i have to align the cartridge on this unit???
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Good question....no this cartridge will come pre-aligned in the head shell - easy to attach.
@michaelresendiz9135
4 жыл бұрын
@@Recordology oh thanks so much i ordered this yesterday and just wanted to know
You went full educational there, great content. My broken AT140XP has blue lights like this victrola. I wish it were direct drive so people could have some affordable DJ tools. Weird strobe thingie btw
Did Victrola ever respond regarding the issues with this turntable?
Can I buy this and just hook it up to powered speakers without a reciever ?
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
Can you recommend a stylus upgrade for this system?
My old technics SLD 30 from 1982 has wow and flutter of 0.025% and signal to noise ratio of 72 DB I’m wondering why the specs on these tables the wow and flutter rating is so much higher.
I bought one of these got an amazing deal on it it must have been your unit I hooked mine up the strobe was perfect the tonearm lowered Softly and when checking the speeds 33 45 and 78 we're all dead on without having to do any other adjustments my only complaint is you can't remove the head shell and you do have to adjust your bass and tone a little bit on your stereo but it's a pretty solid unit for the prince.
@pschaida
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Really, you were able to get a visible lock in with the existing platter markings and strobe at all three speeds? With all mine it only locks in at 45. Makes me think the pulse of the strobe does not change when I change speeds on mine?
A nice 'tool' for putting the belt on the motor pulley (or removing it) is a common round wooden toothpick.
Damm man you always have problems with all those things but it’s all good sometimes it’s good to know all that information! I enjoy your videos
This is the funniest video on KZread! You made my day.
@Recordology
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@TheGreenDoggoOfWisdom
3 жыл бұрын
how lol
I've owned an LP60X for about a year, and I've been considering upgrading to one of these, is the upgrade worth it?
@Recordology
3 жыл бұрын
I would keep the lp60x
Would you please review technisat player lp300?
Can this turntable handle a record weight?
I just purchased one and my Bluetooth does not work, has anyone had similar issues?
Hey quick but serious question. If you were to choose from this VPRO model or the Crosley C6 model which would you choose for your money?
@Recordology
3 жыл бұрын
C6 all day. Or c8
@Bennicbane
3 жыл бұрын
@@Recordology Thanks so much for the response. I've been on the fence about upgrading from an all in one unit for a while and your videos were the deciding factor.
Hey man I bought one of these and the motor pulley that holds the belt came loose and falls down, how can i fix this??
@Recordology
3 жыл бұрын
I would return that.
@pschaida
2 жыл бұрын
If you cannot return it, you will need to take the plinth off from the bottom, I would not attempt it. Let a technician do the repair.
At least it has a illuminated logo. What a masterpiece of engineering.
@pschaida
2 жыл бұрын
YES! That is quite literally it's most satisfying feature!! LOL
It's really good that someone reviews these kinds of products in the lower price range to find out if they are okay for playing records. Obviously a product in that price range is not gonna hold up to a more expensive one, but for the mom or dad going out looking for a bargain and buying this for their kids/teens so they can experience records for the first time.. It should at least work and do it's basic functions adequately in my opinion. The more people that review and send back feedback even about these cheap-o products, the better products we will force the manufacturers to make for those who don't know all that much and might buy it in the future. I do the same thing when I buy new electronics with issues like that or even records that already have scuffs and audible scratches on them from the paper sleeves. I send them back to give a clear statement to the manufacturer, pressing plants and record companies to up their quality control and care for their product or I won't buy. Keep the reviews coming, great video!
@Skips1964
4 жыл бұрын
This unit didn't even work properly out of the box, with 2 serious flaws. Would I buy this for my kids? NO! A far better value would be the Heyday turntable from Target (that was also reviewed on this channel).
im thinking about getting these to mess about djing with my mixer, will this be okay?
@Recordology
Жыл бұрын
Not this due to belt drive. You must find a direct drive tt like the Crosley C200 or Audio Technica LP120X
@stevenstevens990
Жыл бұрын
@@Recordology shiiii expensive for 2, thanks for reply bro
I'm wondering if they have used full wave rectification for the LED by mistake, an LED on it's own would be at the mains frequency but full wave would be double that at 120Hz/100Hz. Due to the very nature of an LED it is a diode, if they mistakenly added another diode to the circuit it would be full wave rectified and operate at double the mains frequency.
how about this for djing??
Looks like a decent turntable, one that will perform well in most settings and won’t break the bank. I would point out that for some types of music, for example slow guitar music with a lot of notes that hang for a moment, the wow and flutter can be noticed. The best, fairly easy-to-find record for hearing the effect of wow and flutter is Dave Weissberg and Steve Mandel’s ‘Dueling Banjoes’, from the soundtrack of the movie ‘Deliverance’. You want the album version to hear the effect most dramatically. The opening notes of that song - again, from the album and not the single - will reveal all!
Seems like this TT has some problems-you should arrange to return this one for another one and see if you have the same speed and Q problems.I wonder if the damping fluid has leaked out of the Qing cylinder during shipment.If its not fluid damped you have to move the Q lever SLOWLY to lower the arm without it dropping on the record.
Is the lp120 really as crappy as this ? Running a pioneer pl120... circa 1974 new belt, cartridge, and needle....all nos... thinking of trying a pioneer plx500 or fluance rt82.... anyone have an opinion?
@pschaida
2 жыл бұрын
What you chose really depends on what you're going to do with it. DJ, or straight listening?
Wow that sucks. I was surprised how well it started out and in the end was horrible. Thank you for sharing this.
enjoyable review,of what looked to be a good product....as someone commented below,theirs works fine,including the cueing lever,and so this has to be a one off iffy product....strange that they`d put a strobe light on just for show though,without it actually being able to work....bizarre....love the lighted victrola sign on the front.....cheers for another very interesting video...ade
The quartz lock feature maintains stable platter rotational speed by using a quartz phase-locked loop circuit that compares motor rotation speed to a reference frequency generated by a quartz crystal oscillator. If needed, the circuit then makes fine adjustments to the speed in order to keep it stable.
Is this better than getting a crosley portable?
@Recordology
3 жыл бұрын
yes
Vitrola VPRO-2000-SLV vs House of marley?
Love the video! You and victrola should team up more often!
Glad I grew up in the 60s when we had decent turntables from Britain, Germany and Japan. A decent one would cost over 150 in 1975, that's over 700 today. A cheap one, 70 bucks.
@johnstone7697
4 жыл бұрын
Compare a Dual 1019 or 1219 with this thing.....ugh!
I was tempted to buy this for two reasons: LP120X was out of stock and it was way cheaper. I’m so glad I didn’t bought it, it is just so aggressive on the record when the tonearm goes down, thankfully my LP120X is arriving next week Ps. Loved that you played Just Dance by Lady Gaga😂😂
@Recordology
3 жыл бұрын
Good choice!
I just got one it hasn’t arrived, I’ll let you know if the strobe works.
@Novaheart1998
3 жыл бұрын
Guess what the strobe doesn’t seem to do shit all. But overall its a nice player.
@pschaida
2 жыл бұрын
@@Novaheart1998 The Strobe should work fine at 45 RPM. The problem, and this is only for units operating on 60hz, is that the strobe dot number is incorrect for all units. This unit should show a near perfect lock in any 50hz region both 33 and 45.
I realized early on that I didn't have the patience for cheap turntables. I ended up buying a Teac TN-300 several years ago and just pre-ordered a Fluance RT-85 the other day.
Is there trimmers on the bottom?
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
Not sure - its already boxed back up. I'm sure there are however.
Where's your intro? Just kidding. Love your channel brother.
Looks like you didn't change the speed with the motor
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
I did - the editing makes it look like I skipped that however...
My old ADC , when you pressed quartz lock it automatically set to either 33 or 45 whatever was pressed. Bypassing the slider. Does the player not do that on your deck?
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
It might.
@pschaida
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it bypasses the pitch slider... It is locked out in quartz lock mode.
Did you ever figure out if it would run at 78?
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
Never got that far.
Are they giving these turntables away at the Dollar stores? By the way, thank-you for showcasing such products that many of us may take the plunge on and regret later.
I bought one of these because my technics linear turntable was having issues. I thought I would use this as a cheap interim until repairs were made. Then I would pass it on to a family member. I received it with a defective gumball. So much play that it would bind up while playing. Called tech support and explained what was going on and he said he would text a form for return. Well I did that and received an email with instructions to set anti- skate. Just to appease them I followed their instructions. Of course it didn't solve the problem. The email was a "no reply" so I tried contacting them again. Crickets. I have given up. I might use it as a lazy Susan to clean my lps.
@mikelitton3464
2 жыл бұрын
*gimbal*
You are awesome!!
I've had this turntable for months and fortunately I haven't had the problems your unit is encountering. The way your tone arm dropped startled me! My tone arm and pitch control works fine so I was saddened to see your unit act that way! That's definitely odd and a big disappointment! Also you're completely right, the strobe is completely for looks and is pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
Giot mine over here in the UK a week ago. A company called HMV sells them in thier shops and they first came out at £200 and then reduced them to £60!! Got one and some Edifier speakers and its great!! I did not do anything with the pitch contriol, just put a record on and started playing!! No need to use the pitch control as the strobe seemed allright. It seemed a bit quiet so I switched the pre-amp on at the back and I had to do what you did and quickly turn the volume down on the speakers!! Just need to get more records now!!
@tomoobv
Жыл бұрын
Purchased one myself from HMV at £60.....absolutely bargain and plays well with my Bluetooth Sub and speakers. Well happy
@khimbar123
Жыл бұрын
@@tomoobv That's three of us then. What Edifiers are you using?
Can you review the Victrola VTA-60?
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
I would like to....
@josephpolaster2267
4 жыл бұрын
I've had it now almost 2 years. It's about what you would expect. Sound is little better than a vintage boombox with medium base and a bit extend crisp high from turntable and radio. CD seems to have a bit muted high but better base with BT sounding the best! Seems Victrola has great BT technology. This unit really sounds great when you run it through powered speakers or a higher wattage receiver. I have it hooked up to my parents old Sears console that I bought them in 75. I used the consoles turntable rca jacks and plugged into back of the Victrola. All the function run trough the console and sounds amazing, better than original. Just disappointed the Vic doesn't have a headphone jack. It does have aux in tho. Enter Take20 on Victrola .com. For discount on everything. It works for me every time.....so far! Shhhhhh! Hope you get this!
If you're looking for a cheap pseudo "pro" turntable to review, there is the GPO PR100. It has a counterweight, antiskate, and interchangeable cartridge. It sells for $68.
does it plays even without speaker???
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
No, you will need powered speakers or a stereo to connect it too.
@j.sorneocollection5781
4 жыл бұрын
thank You!
I'm very happy that i got the audio technica lp60x and didn't get the victrola and i was looking into buying a victrola cause i thought it was cheaper than the audio technica one. By the way after not listening to a vinyl record for many years has to be close to thirty years now it does sound weird but as I listen to my vinyl more and more my memory of listening to them back in the day I realize it sounds just fine lol by the I love the audio technica lp60x that i have it sounds awesome. I do plan on getting more vinyl once the lockdown is finished here in minnesota
Beautiful device, it just needed to work properly. Hug from Brazil.
Even if the sound was great, there is no way I would remember to manually drop the stylus every time. Also, I'm thinking you might've gotten a 220v model with an American plug slapped on.
Great review video. It's a shame you had some issues though because after you had it put together I thought it wasn't a bad looking turntable. That cueing lever, wow. The stylus really drops onto the record which is not great. But those strobe and speed issues you experienced is so bad and that is unacceptable. The strobe thing is a cool feature to have on a turntable but there's no point to it if it doesn't function properly. I'm thinking the same as you that maybe it is something to do with those dots on the platter. If they are a bit wrong it may affect the speed adjustment, I don't know. Hopefully it's just that one with faults and Victrola responds to it quickly for you. Take care.
@pschaida
2 жыл бұрын
The strobe on all of mine only works on 45RPM. I don't think it's the dots on the platter. I suspect it's possibly something to due with the strobe. I am wondering if it puts out a pulsed light that is not changing the rate as I change the speeds?
I've got a Victrola Eastwood and it seems to be a decent player. I'm saving up to get something better like either an Audio Technica or something with needle weight adjustment so I can play bass heavy albums without the needle bouncing.
No link to buy one?
@purplesabbath9057
4 жыл бұрын
Why would you ever wanna buy this piece of junk LOL.
The cueing lever is a disaster, tonearm bearings or absence of are just not acceptable and in the same price range or even the same factory they make better products. Victrola should quickly address this or no one will ever keep this turntable.
It looks the part on design and style but for the same /similar money I’d be likely to purchase an Audio Technica LP120 direct drive TT.
I haven't had any problems with mine. 😁
@Mo-hl9nq
3 жыл бұрын
Do u recommend it
Obviously if you zero the slider the pitch will be fine , if its not on zero then its either playing faster or slower than 33 or 45
yeah, I don't even know how they managed to get that wrong, super disapointing
another interesting review, but unfortunatly a little discouraging the way this victrola unit performed. you have a lot more patience than i do because i would have given up on it and returned it for a refund. it did look pretty sharp with the lights and strobe but what good is it if it doesn't work properly. i dont blame you for being frustrated, nothing worse than looking forward to try a new item and then it turn out to be a bust, thanks for this review and hopefully victrola will make good on this. take care
it has direct drive controls but is a belt drive they should of gone for a direct drive but the matt looks like what was used in the gramophone platters which would not be surprising being that it has a history as gramophone beginnings
@QoraxAudio
4 жыл бұрын
It's belt drive because that's simpler to produce, so there's a good economical reason for it. Expensive brands like VPI or Clearaudio also make belt drives, but have no excuse for doing so and are a ripoff.
I'm sure it's a design flaw for the strobe being that the strobe light probably flashes 60 times a second and the platter is only made in one design. However, in order to keep the stylus from bouncing, you can probably move the cue lever slowly down. I know it's not ideal, but it's a workaround for this. I definitely wouldn't get this one, but you really do a great review. You still get a like from me. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
They have a internal screws you can turn for speed control ,if that don't work, just throw it away, I had a cheap turntable that did the same thing ,I through it way
@ShazeemKhan
6 күн бұрын
😮
This product is not worth the money it doesn't even work properly out of the box and it was very very painful to watch the tonearm lower on to the record I hope it wasn't valuable one. Thanks for the video reviews it's really appreciated especially during these times
The Pitch is use during DJ mixing, to get the same BPM of the other song. 🤣
@Recordology
2 жыл бұрын
🤣
3:20 lifting it with just one hand... not a good sign at all. Try doing it with a Linn (grin)
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair - it was very heavy.
@QoraxAudio
4 жыл бұрын
The Linn Sondek LP12? Compare that to a 18kg Technics! 💪
Gently warm the sticker with a hairdryer and that will help you to get the sticker off.
AT-3600L stylus? get yourself a digital stylus scale, makes life so much easier. I have a vintage Sugden balance scale which does the trick. BTW, this TT in no way is competition to an AT-LP120! - looks like the tonearm drop is fully manual, so lower it slowly.
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
yes....
Correction, the unit will eventually shut off at the end of the record.... EVENTUALLY!..... about 20 minutes later.
Steel platter? More likely aluminum. As for speed, there's a "Quartz" button which should lock it exactly to 33.33. Did you try that? The cuing is crap...no damping. Don't know if that's a defect or it's just a junky turntable. To stop it from bouncing, move the lever more slowly.
@pschaida
2 жыл бұрын
That was a defect, along with the anti-skate, and the strobe issue. I think this indicates that this turntable was definitely built down to a price and not up to a standard. There seems to be a lack of quality control on this product.
Either something is wrong with it, or they accidentally sent you a version of it with the strobe calibrated for 50 Hz AC power, so when running on 60 Hz power it is not accurate. And it looks like the cueing lever is not damped, so if you want the tonearm to lower slowly you have to operate the lever by hand slowly. I have some record players which were designed like that, so it's not necessarily a fault, just something different than what you're used to. FYI, this model is made by Leetac, not Hanpin.
@Recordology
4 жыл бұрын
We are thinking it was damaged in shipping - follow up soon!
@pschaida
2 жыл бұрын
@@Recordology YES, A FOLLOW UP PLEASE? I WOULD BE KEENLY INTERESTED IS WHETHER OR NOT VICTORIA HAS ANY ANSWERS OR SOLUTIONS?
It seems this particular unit has multiple problems.
LMAO...….Too funny. The front light is cool though
They are onto something all right. They got your money.
Straight to the bin
Can't believe it goes for around £240 in UK you could get quite good turntable for less
In my country, the VPRO is one of the largest radio broadcasting corporations, so to me it sounds kind of funny, especially because turntables with pitchfaders were used for broadcasting. The abbreviation stands for: Vrijzinnig Protestantse Radio Omroep and it basically means: Liberal Protestant Radio Broadcasting Corporation 12:30 Ehh... I think that's not the best way to go, to handle your dustcovers, if you want to keep them nice 😅 14:33 Interesting fact: while some platters have four rows for 50/60Hz and 33/45 rpm, some strobe LEDs can do all speeds and both 50/60Hz on the same row. The other three rows are pitch indicators for something like +/-3.3% and +6% pitch instead of 0% pitch. And some have strobe dots that don't do anything at all... 20:10 Maybe they forgot to add damping fluid in the tonearm lift? I had an old turntable where the fluid was gone and it did exactly the same, adding silicone damping fluid made it work like a new tonearm.