The respect part, you are on point... and it frustrates me so much that veterinarians are not respected

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is extremely frustrating! thanks for watching :)

I struggled with feeling "smart enough" to go to vet school (or med school), for a long time. So much so, that I didn't go to vet school until I was in my 30s. 😊I'm in the US though, so our education system is a little different (we don't go to med/vet school, right after high school). Animals really are the best. 😊

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I'm so glad you can relate, thank you for watching :)

@nargesalove228

2 жыл бұрын

same, now I am 33 and studying for the MCAT :)

I'm trying to decide whether to go to med school or vet school next year. It's the hardest decision I've ever had to make. The lack of respect and the pay is what's really holding me back from vet school right now. Your video helped me out a lot thank you!

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad my video could help you! If you have a passion for animals then 100% don't let the pay get to you, but if human medicine seems to be your calling then give it a crack. I hope you find your dream job :)

Hi I'm studying vet med in Thailand I want to say that I'm totally agree with about everything you saying!! especially topic about not as respected as human med. Despite that we learn human at basic first 😒 btw. I very very love your video 💖💖

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Oh thats awesome!! Thank you so much

Im a certified veterinary technician and a first year veterinary student. Im my country (Europe-Slovenia) both the medical and veterinary degree are 6 years long and best of all FREE OF CHARGE. Im very glad I didn't have to base my decision on money at all! I have always known that vet med was the right path for me:D

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Wow that's amazing!! Good on you for doing vet tech first and now vet med! Thats so awesome that your degree is free of charge! Im happy you've found your passion 😊

@ziva8337

7 ай бұрын

omg i am literally a slovenian deciding if I should study medicine or veterinary science! Did you go to the highschool or just the university? How do you like it? Kakšno naključje da se srečava 😅

7:41 " either if you graduate as a doctor or a vet". No disrespect at all, I love your channel but this is why we aren't respected as much in the medical field because we don't even refer to each others at doctors. I think you meant " a physician or a vet". Love how you shared your story and shared the pros and cons, can’t wait to complete undergrad and apply to veterinary school!😊

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

I totally respect this!! I love this comment actually, you're so right - vets should be better at calling ourselves doctors - because that's what we are!!

@eimajmelancon810

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesscliffee Thanks for understanding!!!

OMG Jess I felt like you were talking about me! I am so stuck between vetmed and medicine and also thinking about biomedical engineering! I'm from a physician family so medicine was kind of the default option for me. I grew up doing first aiding at school and loved it. It was gratifying to help people at their worst moments. But it just didnt feel right. i did veterinary work placements and LOVED it! I totally agree with all the points you made about vet med! specially the flexibility vets have in terms of work like being able to do surgery, clinics and the possibility to go down the research path. also being able to work in conservation. But with my A/L results i got into med school (it's free in my country). I can appeal and chose vetmed too but no one supports that choice. I'm a little skeptical of taking tht jump cuz i want to apply for specialty training abroad after vet school (we don't have specialty training here) but the vetmed program is not accredited so I need to do all these expensive, long licensing exams. if it wasnt for that i'd already be signing up for vet med in a heart beat! and all this time i still LOVE biomedical engineering too! I'm so stuck and I'm running out of time to decide😓 I just wish the universe can send me a signal my way too, just like it happened to you🤞🏻🙈

I watched this video when I was thinking what I wanted to do, what degree I would prefer (I was sure about going do med school since middle school)... And the fact that, this video really helped and was one of the reasons that I chosed to study veterinary Is amazing! About to finish my first year at vet school this year and I could not be more grateful for you! I'm loving and I'm 100% confident that I made the right decision for my life! Thanks SO MUCH for this

@jesscliffee

2 жыл бұрын

I am so so so glad ❤❤ I wouldve wanted this video when I was at high school so I'm glad its helping people in the same position. Well done to you 😊

I love these videos!! Im studying VET next year at Massey and this is making me so excited. Thank you so much!!!

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad that you are excited!! Goodluck! :)

I love this video 😍 you raised some valid points! Funnily enough, I dropped out of UoA Law in my third year to try out for Vet. I had a part-time job in a pet store/vet care and I just found the animal field to be so much more rewarding & interesting!

@jesscliffee

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! Wow that's insane, I'm so happy you've found something you're far more interested in now 😊

This video was perfect! I’m in a similar situation as you, and I had all the same pros and cons to both degrees as you listed here! I think ultimately I am going to chose vet med, but the cons of vet med are really tough

Great Video Jess! Very Motivating.

@jesscliffee

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! 😊

I did some research for my Senior Assessment, and found that many individuals who go to medical school in order to become a surgeon or some other high-status medical position tend to have more of an attraction to the status itself than the actual work. This is not true of every med student, without a doubt there are many who truly have a passion. But for those whom lack the passion, the work is either means to achieve the end or a byproduct (whether its positive or negative depends on the individual) Whereas almost every veterinary student has such a strong love for animals, and that's also why vets tend to have depression and suffer from burnout, because their passion to their work and their love for their patients hurts them when they fail to save one, or when they fail to achieve what their passion demands from them. Vets have a much stronger emotional connection to their work, and so it hurts a lot more. I had dogs as a kid, and the emotional attachments I formed with them trumps any possible attachment I could ever have with any person. I don't love my friends as much as I loved my dogs. And that's not to say I don't love my friends, but to stress just how much I loved those slobbery pups... May they rest in peace.

@qiyidian

Жыл бұрын

You definitely hit a nail on the head 😭

@JT-cf5ol

Жыл бұрын

Yes, many psychological studies on why some people choose to become medical professionals, specifically surgeons etc whereas not too many issues with veterinarians other than having a lot of compassion

easy answer from me: animals > humans

@jesscliffee

4 жыл бұрын

So true - video could've been 10 seconds lol 😂

@LIKARRIBLUE

4 жыл бұрын

@@jesscliffee hahaha glad it wasn't - enjoyed your story :)

Hey,Jess I'm a 4th yr veterinary student from Bangladesh🇧🇩. I agree with all of your points. Loved the way you explained all the matters. & I don't know why but whenever I see a veterinarian/vet student from anywhere in the world it feels like he/she is closer to me.I think vet. med have made my mind convinced to think anyone who studies it closer to me.

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very vey much!! :)

Thank you, lovely video! I’m also a vet student from Croatia and definitely prefer veterinary medicine over human. I think there is so much room for improvement, when doing research we already have a blueprint to follow and results from human medicine research to compare to and I feel like better times are coming for our profession. In our university vet school is 6 years like med school. 😊

@KarlaMde

3 жыл бұрын

In Croatia vet school is also free, and we even have a program in English but that one is not free, however definitely not as expensive as in New Zealand, USA and other places.

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

That is amazing!!! You seem to have such a good system over there 😊

Vet school is definitely harder!! I did my apprenticship in Germany and became a vet nurse (my german wasn't that great and I didn't think I would be able to survive at uni - english being my first language). Then I got into Med, but didn't get into vet. So I started Med. Did four semesters before I gave up. I hated the fact, that I had to touch people. I tried again...and got into vet eventually. Now in my seventh Semester (we have 11). Uni over here doesn't cost anything. I thiink this was a key factor in me changing my degree. I had really only lost time and didn't have a massive debt to deal with. I don't regret my decision at all. I would never go back. Yes, you don't earn a lot...especially when you compare yourself to a human doctor. Doctors look down on you (although you tend to know more than them). But I can't wait to graduate and to start working in the field.

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Wow this is so interesting! I'm so glad you've found where you want to be :)

Well thought out video Jess! Nice one 🙂

@jesscliffee

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paddy 🥰🥰

I really liked your hair and your words.

Proverbs 12:10 A righteous man take care of his animals, but wicked men are cruel to theirs .

Might be a *tad* early as I am a year 7 but I really do not know what I should do, medical or veterinary school and this video helped, thank you!

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully this helped you!!

I'm in medschool and it s very intense, but in my view Vetmedschool is harder, more types of patients etc, way harder to do an anamnesis on an animal 👐👏🏻

Cleaner, teacher, physician or veterinarian. Rich or poor. Employed or unemployed. Whatever your station in life, you should always respect each other. It takes a certain amount of arrogance to believe just because you have a good job means that you should be respected more. Don’t pursue a career for status. Pursue it because it is something you’re passionate about and can see yourself doing.

Couldn't agree more with your opening statement haha!

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks!!

Awesome!!! Great video!!

@jesscliffee

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Thank you

Love your videos ♥

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! 😊

surely it´s an interesting but also hard job

agreed ! human can be gross sometimes lol. Glad I found your video cuz I am also in confusion whether to choose human med or vet. Anyways, you got a new subscriber here ! keep up the good work Jess !

@jesscliffee

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thank you!

I am going to give enterence this year for veterinary ,the one thing I like most about veterinary is being with animal

Kia ora. I really enjoyed anatomy class in human medicine and I thought it would be way more interesting looking at different animals in veterinary medicine, so I might change 😄

I either want to do human medicine (spec. pediatric) or veterinary medicine/science (spec. equine / farm), love these two dreams/potential options bc they go hand in hand with each other I believe 😷

I see it the same way. I considered both med and vet and then I thought: „humans are gross“ so now I’m sure I will do vet. Still have to finish school Strohhalm but I really really hope I get in directly Fingers crossed (working my butt off to achieve it rn)

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Haha can totally relate! Goodluck, I wish you the best!

My Doctor is both a veterinarian and a GP!! He was a vet first, then became a doctor!

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

This is incredible! So much study involved!

@kasie680

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesscliffee hes such a fantastic doctor! When I first saw him I went because I was dealing with really bad anxiety and panic attacks cause I had recently found out that I would never conceive naturally and would have to do IVF, he was so empathetic and kind and told me I would be ok and ivf isn’t so bad or women would never go back to have a second child I was in tears also worried about the possibility of twins cause I have back trouble and he pulled his chair over and put his hand on my shoulder and said “ you will be ok, and don’t worry about multiple births, I’m also a Vet and I can handle a litter!!!” 😂😂😂😂😂

love love love 💓 this video jess great work!!🥰i have one question.. after the 5 year bachelors degree in veterinary science can you proceed with a phd straight away or have to do a masters first? thanks 😊

@jesscliffee

4 жыл бұрын

Hey! Thanks heaps 😊 You have to do a postgraduate course such as a master's to be able to qualify for a PhD unfortunately even after 5 years of vet school! 😞

@arjunrawat7049

4 жыл бұрын

Jess Cliffe i see!! thank you 😊 👁👄👁

@jesscliffee

4 жыл бұрын

If it makes you feel any better, if you want to become a specialist in anything you don't have to do a masters/PhD - you can do a residency where you work and study for 3 years after vet school I think, which is really good because it's not just straight study 😊

hey I'm in the UK, currently I'm in key stage 3. (quite young.) what can i do early to try and secure a place at vet school.

Hi Jess! Thanks so much for this video. I am currently in my last semester of Pre-Med in the US. Ever since I was in middle school I thought that I wanted to go to med school to become a dermatologist. I have worked at a dermatologist office for about a year and loved the easy going lifestyle. I find myself now stuck between med and vet school because I love animals more than anything. I have grown up fostering animals, and have about 6 rescue animals at home. I always found myself really happy after fostering a sick animal back to good health. The only thing that made me think I couldn't become a vet is my strong emotional attachment to animals. I get very sad about animals dying, even ones on the side of the road, so I can't imagine seeing animals that just got hit by a car Would you be able to share about your thoughts on this? Do you get very sad seeing seriously injured animals? Or seeing animals being euthanised? I feel as though I could make much more of a difference in my life by becoming a vet rather than a dermatologist

@jesscliffee

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Karina! I definitely relate to this, seeing sick and injured animals is really hard for me, but what makes it better is knowing that with my training I can do my best to try and help these animals. As far as euthanasia goes, I see it as giving peace to animals who are suffering, and we are privileged to be able to give these animals peace. I think it is an incredibly rewarding career.

Hey from Austria! It’s so funny, but in europe vet school lasts even longer than med school! But it’s also not not very well respected. Vets can also be doctors and it’s upsetting me that society thinks it’s “easy” and they’re not “real doctors.”....

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Wow thats so long! I totally agree it is very upsetting

Such a hard decision. Ultimately I think I'm going to vet school it's not about the money it's more about passion and desire. The lack of respect kills me 😅

I’m 13 and I was wondering what kind of subjects you have to be good at in order to be a vet. Love your videos! Also how hard was it to get into vet school?

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! thank you so much! :) I would definitely recommend the 3 sciences: biology, chemistry and physics, and maths helps but is not essential! Vet school is quite challenging, you definitely have to work hard for what you want! :)

My teacher said if you hate math. math will hate you back. math hated me first though.

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

So true!

Is the vet school in your country a graduate or undergraduate degree?

I am 15 years old and i really want to be a veterinary but i really bad at math .( im bad at english and btw i love your vid 🥺)

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! Thats okay you are only 15 so you have plenty of time to keep practising and get better, when i was 15 I absolutely sucked at math! It doesn't matter if you want to work hard 😊

@Sharktoes33

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesscliffee tq so much this make me feel better 😊

@emilyallice

3 жыл бұрын

If it helps you at all, when I was finishing high school I failed the maths subject I needed to get into the science degree which leads to the DVM (in Australia; this is called mathematical methods, and I was aiming for Melbourne Uni) so I did a different science course at a 'lesser' university, got great marks in all my animal subjects, graduated and applied as a tertiary applicant and got offers for 3 vet schools, including Melbourne. ANYTHING is possible

@Sharktoes33

3 жыл бұрын

@@emilyallicei already turn 16.. 😭 in my school if we turned 16 they will choose the subject stream according to my exam marks when I was 14 years old ....and I got the business and art strem .. I hate this class because it is a lower class😭. The first class has biology, physics, chemistry, extra math subjects but I am too stupid for that :( ...my mom and dad said that its to late to be what i want. i kinda sad though because i want my family to be proud of me :(

Everyone I know has a much more favorable opinion of Animal Doctors than Human Doctors. The former diagnoses and treats their patients as a whole. The latter sees us as body parts since they've specialized themselves so much and prescribe what is dictated to them. Because of this the vast majority of people above a certain age are condemned to suffering all the time. The reason Vets earn less is because animal owners typically pay out of pocket for the service. Doctors' salaries took off when the majority in this profession decided to go from generalist to specialist and the gov and insurance companies inserted themselves between the patient and doctor.

@tatititu

8 күн бұрын

I think the same will happen to vets in the near future, no?

I'm currently still in high school in south africa, and really want to get into a veterinary school. The only thing is that there is only one vet school in the whole of south africa.

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow I didn't know that! Definitely give it a go if you can! Otherwise they're is always scholarship opportunities to universities outside of South Africa for veterinary school, give those a look too! 😊

@keitany7039

3 жыл бұрын

I relate to this .In Kenya there are only two universities that offer veterinary medicine

@jamieyip7655

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! Im actually going to be in first year of vet med at Tuks this year and im going to film it on youtube if you want to see how it is :) Theres also another vet called "SAvet" and she goes into detail about what she did with the value added forms and all that so you can check it out to make your chances of getting in higher :)))

all my life I wanted to be a vet but my parents are always against me and I have mild asthma :,( I had no choice but to take dentistry..... I hope I can be a vet in my next life :(

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

There is definitely time where you can retrain if it is something you are passionate about in your future !

Hello I am your new subscriber now I really love your vid

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

hey , i am 14 at the moment but once i finish school in the UK , i really want to move to the USA , as im gonna be 18 and be a veterinarian there . do you think it’s worth it ? i really need some help because i don’t want to make that silly mistake . would mean a lot if you replied :)

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! I have absolutely no idea about Vet School in the USA! I think you are thinking about things too preemptively! You have so much time to figure out what you want to do, just focus on excelling in your schooling at the moment, and figure out what you're going to do when the time comes to it!

I’m currently a junior in hs and I’m having such a tough time trying to choose if I want to go into nursing or be a vet 😪😪

Im only 15 years old and im already vet nursing student at TAFE NSW in Australia

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow! Very impressive, hope you are enjoying it :)

@darcybentley3167

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesscliffee Thankyou! I am very much

I really want to be a aquatic veterinarian but I’m sacred of water and at the same time I really want to be a nurse but I can’t choose.

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! Thats okay, you've still got time to discover what you want to do. I'd highly recommend work experience in both fields, it may help you to realize what you love.

in my country vet is 6 and med is 7 yaers

I want to work with animals but I don’t want to do surgeries..I’m torn on what to do

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Thats tough! But if you train to become a veterinary physiotherapist, nurse, or technician- you can work with animals and never have to be involved in surgery

Hi!! I’m about to go to college and I really want to be a veterinarian! How long does it take to be a vet in Australia and New Zealand? Can you discuss tuition fees and other expenses?🥺 Thank you so much!

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! It takes 5 years to become a veterinarian in New Zealand, and i'm not sure about Australia. Massey University's website has a bunch of information on fees, but domestic fees are around $13k a year, and international around $60k I think! Living costs are quite cheap here where i live too!

@nicoledagoy1831

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesscliffee Aaaaaahhh thank you so much!! It takes 6 years to be a vet in my country but the entire course immediately turns you into DVM so the pre-vet thing in other countries confuses me a lot 😅

I entered university in 1969. I had no idea what I would study. I only knew it would be in the sciences. I met a third year undergraduate student in pre-veterinary medicine. I grew up on a dairy farm. He said I would be a nature veterinarian. I started pre-veterinary medicine my second year of college. In my naïve mind, I had no idea what I had gotten my myself into. First, your grade point average needed to be 3.5 or better to have a good shot at being admitted to veterinary medical school. Next, the course of study was 7 to 8 years of university back then. Now, it is 8 or more years. In the US even then, the cost of education was very high. It was especially high compared to a veterinarian's earning potential. Our tuition was comparable to medical school. In veterinary medicine, you will be working with people. Sometimes, my job seemed like veterinarian/psychologist. A veterinary performs services and procedures at a fraction of the pay of medical doctors. I owned my own clinic and pharmacy. I earned the pay of a nurse in medicine. I eventually became a Veterinary Medical Officer in the USDA supervising meat inspection in a processing plant. Meat inspection was looked down on in veterinary medical school. I was content at doing the job. i retired at the job after 29 years.

I love this video😍ma'am I m also a vet student and youtuber from India.mam can I contact with u

lmao here i am waiting to know if im accepted into med school and vet school. applied to both and still can't decide :(

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

Goodluck!! I hope you get an answer soon, I'd love to know what you end up doing 😊

@yrrah89

3 жыл бұрын

Jess Cliffe yes. I think exactly like you hence I feel so identified with you. I’d rather work with animals but vet school in the US is extremely expensive and vets don’t make that much money to pay the loans back. This is what’s holding me back but like I said I feel very passionate about being a vet. Sometimes I think med school would be better for vain reasons. I just want to work as a med or vet so I guess I’ll have to decide soon

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

In all honesty I felt the exact same way about the money situation, but if you really are passionate about vet school try not to let this influence your decision. It really doesn't matter in the long run about the money if you are doing something you love, as cliche as it sounds. I wish you the best with whatever you decide!

@yrrah89

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesscliffee I've been watching a lot of national geographic videos and I also wonder why the heck I'm thinking about med school lol Animals>humans all day!. I think it comes to what you talked about, the prestige of an MD, that's what makes us think about going to med school. Vanity shouldn't be the reason for going to med school... the debt-income ratio is what worries me tbh but if I'm accepted to vet school which I already had the interview, I am going in!!!! I can do my clinical year in the U.S. or U.K and New Zeland. I am U.S. citizen but id would to go overseas to do my clinical year

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

@@yrrah89 im so glad that you're starting to figure everything out for yourself 😊 animals are awesome! That sounds incredible, I wish you luck and hopefully you can come to NZ one day 😊

Where do you study in?

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

New Zealand :)

Los veterinarios de primer mundo como que tienen los mismos problemas que en Latinoamérica.

SA vet student 🐶

@jesscliffee

3 жыл бұрын

So cool! Where from? :)

@vetstudent5296

3 жыл бұрын

South Africa