I've been teaching some friends to play this game. They asked what careers and weapons are strongest, and I said "Just use what you think is fun, and we'll make it work." We're not the strongest team, but yeah it's been FUN.

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

Yea I'd say it's best to use what one is comfortable with because that player will maximize the character/weapons they are running. It's definitely not all about being the strongest for sure.

@arrynchaos9912

Жыл бұрын

This is the way

@quack3891

Жыл бұрын

usually, just someone who can dedicate special killing (like Way stalker, Huntsman, etc.) is required to help make a team really easy sailing. That's at least what's missing a lot easy access to special killing since being forced to reposition under pressure isn't easy to juggle at the start

@Bzk--

5 ай бұрын

​@@quack3891 Yeah. My fav careers are GK and WP but ive been gravitating towards WHC Simply cause i always struggle so much on these when theres none prioritizing specials, which is quite often sadly.

@jeanjacquesrousseau1955

5 ай бұрын

Every char actually has a reason to exist. They all work perfectly fine up to cataclysm. Skill is by far the most important factor in this game. Sure some chars are more meta than others but they all work fine.

Never Before Have I Been So Offended By Something I One Hundred Percent Agree With .

This is ironically a good video about how dealing damage is not everything. I would never touch pyromancer or engineer compared to foot knight but they are way better damage dealers

@nathanhaley1353

9 ай бұрын

I dunno man footknight with the great sword can dish out some fricken damage.

@thelxvers2728

4 ай бұрын

​@@nathanhaley1353ye but its not his Job,,Wanna be Tanky and fuck shit up? Can be a Zealot or Unchained

this might get lost in the comments, but I absolutely love the perk that gives the effect of every potion on grail knight's double stab!!! You pop the potion, and your two swings absolutely SHRED a monster, then the concentration effect will give you a SECOND normal double stab to do about 75% of a monster's health in the span of 5 seconds on legend difficuly, and the only thing you need to do it is one measely speed potion. Absolutely my favorite career, +500 points for having bretonnian longsword

@Ixtilion

Жыл бұрын

Hey, take the talent that gives you STR potions for killing enemies, you basically have potions 100% of the time, its pretty broken with that ring perk :)

You forgot the Re-chained, Sienna's 4th class. Actually broken good!

@megavortex10

Жыл бұрын

Vermintide Hearts Re:Chained of Memories

@JohanKylander

Жыл бұрын

Lol, no, it's literally unplayable.

@sirbonely6664

Жыл бұрын

@@JohanKylander 🤡

@olenhol2przez4

10 ай бұрын

Necromancer now :>

@DriskotTheDense

9 ай бұрын

It's finally gone be here, just 8 days away and us Sienna mains can EAT

Needed something like this Thank you!

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Yes! A victory for engie mains!

@abaddon130

Жыл бұрын

Finally, I was starving for some recognition.

@therealacro9418

Жыл бұрын

Rock and stone! It never gets old

No no no, it's not JUST that the Engineer can carry 11 Trollhammer Torpedos, but since he has infinate ammo on the minigun and a talent that gurentees a ranged crit, you can get a FREE TORPEDO if you set it up. But yeah, while I love the class he really does embody Glass Cannon. You can kill the entire hoard solo just to lose 50% of your health to a single slave rat that snuck up behind you.

Always great video!!!

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

I cannot tell you how happy your assessment of slayer makes me lol, I run 2h axe + 2h hammer as well. And yes, he's a powerhouse. Once you learn to deal with specials in melee, he is practically unstoppable

@beloslavbelchev8062

6 ай бұрын

My favourite thing is going in solo vs the horde with the great hammer . It never fails me , until a ratling gunner shoots me dead haha

This tier makes sense until you meet a Foot Knight who does 650 headshots during a single run on cataclysm. Guess who had all the green circles?

@Halvesoul

Жыл бұрын

seriously not the footknight bro XD

@thebenvz.

Жыл бұрын

If FK is getting the green circles then the team is probably afk

@brenny3244

Жыл бұрын

@@thebenvz. I fear cata footnight players

@ShaderkaUSA

Жыл бұрын

That was probably me hehe. I like to toot my own horn. Honk honk

@sirhenk5910

Жыл бұрын

It's so much fun to get headshots with executioner sword as well

Great list and great video!

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

Yep engineer is so good at dmg dealing that he even damages his own teammates with high dps thanks to his ulti

@danielsterling4918

8 ай бұрын

"A sacrifice I am willing to make."

I agree with the tier list, except for the elf mage, for me it deserves the A tier, because I think it's poisonous, transforms it into a huge wave cleaner

To be honest Shade and Bounty are S tier in tearm of dmg if you play it right. Pyro its A tier even if you play it good. its fun real fun to play but its A tier at most

Something people forget about the handmaiden... you can stack up to 90% attack speed. Usually quite hard to beat the damage and effectiveness on the team from that

Well done ✌️

nice video :D

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Love it straight forward quick, you make your statement and back the choice up

@jesseblock4974

3 ай бұрын

Only thing I don’t agree with is placement of shade

11:59 Oh my god this is so satisfying to watch!

battle wizard is probably the class i hate playing the most like when i reached lvl 30 with sienna i was like ''yay i never have to play this charackter again'' my favorites are shade and slayer

Dope video. aces. I've been playing for years and my top classes are Pyro and Bounty hunter and you buried them lol, but it was an interesting angle. To measure only damage, which, if one is skilled; is probably the biggest factor after a player's skill level and now I see that I clearly need to make the switch to battle wizard, or perhaps alternate. OH! however, you forgot to mention that PYRO gets 100% cooldown refund on her special ability if it Crits, which is QUIte often does. with trinkets and weapon its actually like 60%. My personal record is 8 consecutive specials. It clears out the entire area as far as you can see and beyond, looks like that scene in the Mummy. anyway, awesome video, I just subscribed. 😅🤣😁

Amazing tierlist !! Love the videos !

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

Banger vid

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks homie. Appreciate your help with the footage.

have not watched the video yet but if grail knight doesn't hit numba wan I will crusade

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

Only one way to find out :p

Shotgun bountyhunter might be fattest damage in legend and lower difficulties.

@ineedaname8105

3 ай бұрын

I have been playing with griffin pistol ever since I picked bh and while its extremely fun to play as, its not very fun to play with since it clears waves so well that your team doesn't get to do much, also robs the thp . But damage wise its really insane

It took me way longer than I care to admit to pause on the 75% zoom in text at the start of the video. why I didn't just slow the video speed? I have no idea

Some (reluctant) love for my boi Engi! \o/

Which tier for the Priest of Prima Donna though?

A bw usually shows high damage on maps, but does not always take first place, especially if these are maps from DLC where the number of elites can be one and a half to two times more than on the maps of Helmgart.

Epic

What is Handmaiden doing all the way down there? She runs 45 AS% before Swift Slaying and infinite Stamina for push attacks. Her Monster damage is on par or above slayer if you're using the Javelin Melee. Also she's the best Javelin user by a longshot. Her innate AS (Which should easily be at 45% during dead time, the stacks don't expire) makes reloading the Javs incredibly fast. Heck, if you want to get stupid her Ult can be spec'd for even more damage. Just nobody uses it because she already has ridiculous damage and most people would rather have the utility at that point.

@danielsterling4918

8 ай бұрын

Shhhh don't tell 'em any more, let them leave the elf slot open more often pls

Armor Piercing Slugs for Outcast Engineer also gives you double explosions from Troll Hammer Torpedo when piercing an enemy(so it has to hit them dead on). Though the second explosion might not land near the first target to double up on damage, it will nuke whatever is behind them.

Waystalker can nuke elites along with specials pretty easily, i think shes closer to A tier personally

@alexsitaras6508

Жыл бұрын

I feel like she's good at killing most elites at range, except for chaos warriors and maulers. But she has melee weapons that are good at that.

@ShaderkaUSA

Жыл бұрын

​@@alexsitaras6508 her broken blood shot ult with a conc pot can insta kill a CW patrol on legend and kill up to 4 or 5 on cata.

What do you mean iron breaker is in d tier, Have you seen my drakegun build? Sma

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

kekw

@bryancorts5389

7 ай бұрын

Yeah Flamethrowers can be underdogs for sure. I remember starting out with ironbreaker with drake. Crazy build for sure and good memory of it!

Meanwhile, I often have the highest damage of the entire team as IB (if BW is not on the team). :-D

Probably should have split this between damage to certain enemy types: (horde, elites, bosses).

I think Unchained 133222 with Flail + Flameweave staff is S tier also able to do 20-25k dmg on basic legendary runs.

Seeing a hagstalker at C tier is big weird. You can melt bosses with barrage and quickshots ( quickshots deal 3 times more damage because you can stack the dots way faster and with speed potion you are top 3 monster killer). One of my strongest builds is double dagger / hagbane for some cata runs with more horde deed.

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

Yea this has been the biggest feedback I’ve seen from people. I suppose I was thinking of how she tends to be limited by her role as the go to special sniper. I don’t know if I’d change it looking back, but I think people saying b tier for her is reasonable.

@Luthyen

Жыл бұрын

@@WetMagic i would put her on in A-tier. Most people dont use the bloodshot on hagbane properly. After you have killed 1 enemy do push attack dodge back - now comes the important part - jump and shoot at the second row of the enemies. The shot at the second row will also stagger the first row but since it is a dot which spreads in a circle you will hit 30% more enemies with your dot. If you only shoot at the first row the dot will be only applied on the enemies left, right and behind the target. So you will loose a lot of damage potential if you dont jump and shoot at the second enemy row. And as i said quickshots on monster will increase the damage dealt massivly, most players are doing charged shots, but with charged shots you loose many dot stacks on the monster.

I agree with everything on this list, but I would move Waystalker up a tier. Elf melee weapons are great, and so are her ranged options. The unlimited ammo is limited only by using her ult to clear multiple elites or specials at a time at a time. Prenerf, I'd say A tier, but for now B.

@z3r070000

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, her with the right talent build and a swift bow is essentially an elf running around with a 100 round bow shaped smg that reloads on F. She can almost be an outcast engineer with slightly less damage, but way more mobility.

Is Waystalker just good at Legend and lower difficulties? I've got friends who use her and are just consistently 1.5-2x the damage of the 2nd highest damage dealer in the party.

@czailoncz

Жыл бұрын

Waystalker is being played on all difficulties succesfully, even on modded. Either Longbow for special/elite or Hagabane for huge stagger/boss/horde/elite clear :D shes a monster in the right hands

Ironbreaker is a little incorrect, with a strength pot and shrapnel 2 mags of a pistol will do over a quarter of a cataclysm bosses health in about 10 seconds and half of a legend boss. The pistol alone raises all bardin classes (except slayer) above D tier if not above C.

Skipped to S to see if it was BW after playing with one yesterday who would simply hit all enemies with 1 tick of damage, then run right past them, ignoring nearly all of the game yet still having having better damage, kills etc than the entire rest of the team combined, because we couldn't really play the game

Piercing Shot on Cata Twitch 300 with skilled player is S tier

Ranger Vet is a strong character. Very strong with the Great Axe.

I always outscore everyone with FK...... on Legend

Witch hunter captain is my favorite and i also like shade

me when i see him call foot knight a below average horde clearer whilst i'm in the corner using a warhammer and making hordes absolute jokes with infinite hp with the thp on stagger skill point and dealing with speacials pretty well with the gun that spins i forgot the name lmfao: i agree with most of the rest though.

Having played a lot of waystalker and huntsman recently in my quest to play through all the maps with each class, id argure waystalker is a way better dps than huntsman. Theres just no contest. Waystalker can actually use her ranged weapon almost all mission, while huntsman needs to consistently head shot to not run out of ammo will always be lagging behind. Theres just no keeping up with some one who doesnt need to worry about ammo and headshots

in the video about the characters with the greatest dmh, do you mention such features as usability as advantages? that makes sense anyway. I thought you were a professional player. kappa

this is so cursed, it feels like bait; well done

shade, bh, pyro a class nice :)))

I miss having Famished Flames and Lingering Flames at the same time.

Waystalker C tier? every game i play with waystalker in team elf player does 10k more damage then anyone else because infinite ammo + oneshot elite packs button like, seriously she falls off on cata breakpoints but she still has crazy ranged damage

Auntie Sienna is life, you just can't beat her at aoe damage I love playing pubs with that one type of Sienna who just joins, does 70% of all the damage dealt by the team, but is a team player who knows how to play as team, types ggwp at the end and leaves without elaborating, gigachad player type. That's who I want to be when I grow up.

Play some repeater handgun huntsman and see how headshot reliant he really is!

I main the engineer and I have a blast

Engie has been promoted to SSS tier lol

D tier for ironbreaker lol madness

Now that she's been out for a few days, I wonder where necromancer would fall. Maybe b or a tier?

@danielsterling4918

8 ай бұрын

If you run flaming flail & coruscation staff with the lvl 30 talent that makes skellies spread flame dot to enemies they hit, you can solo basically everything. Tho you'll be stealing all the kills, thp, and ability to see from your teammates if you use that w other ppl

@lynnrose12

8 ай бұрын

@danielsterling4918 I wanna like barrow blades but Dread Senchal's ability to play bowling with big groups doesn't ever stop being fun

I almost always play waystalker because I suck at melee but I've been playing FPS competitively for a decade so the choice is kind of obvious.

I stopped the video to comment on this, so I assume I'll be proven wrong soon, but saying, "Slayer's entire purpose is to deal damage. " then putting him not in S Tier is crazy.

laughs in ult boosted ironbreaker trollhammer torp with barrage

i dont know if you ever played the weekly twins modifier with griffonfoot BH? u will do more dmg than the other 3 players combined EZ.

To be noted even fk and ib can easily top damage the game is pretty well balanced sure a grail knight gonna have an easier time getting most damage but rust me a ib can get it if you know what your doing

I agree on this list. Necromancer for me is an A tier at best.

Tbh, if Fatshark brought BW in line with the others right after releasing necro and right before abandoning the game, I'd be offended.

Huge fan of the Phoenix Wright music

Human error is the vastly strongest influence of your experience here. Your rating only says what you are comfortable using vs what you struggle with or still figuring out a way to fill the role you need fill will with a particular class.

I think SOTT can sneak her way into the bottom of A tier if you put barrage on her staff.

@danielsterling4918

8 ай бұрын

Sir, that's illegal... But srsly barrage b bussin

Since when like button lights up when you ask for a like.

if this was based purely on damage BH, Manbow Huntsman, and Barrage Hagbane waystalker should have been way uptiered. other than that i can agree

I miss my shades of blenders 🥲

The video itself is great, but honestly I'm loving the Skullgirls music in it as well. Hitting on two games of mine I adore here!

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Skullgirls has a heck of a soundtrack.

Id go as far as to say that ironbreaker with cog hammer and trollhammer should be put in a diff category than foot knight. Theres just no way they can both be placed in the same bracket. Footknight should in F tier, hands down shitty dmg.

At least i like the Balance of all Carrers. You can play everyone you like!

Waystalker s&d is pretty op and allows her to kill pretty much everything with little difficulty and if you land your headshots with the longbow, which is quite easy with the zoom, nothing stands a chance. Special killing is not her only job. Easy A.

Haven’t watched video yet but I’m assuming GK is S tier

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

You assume correctly

@haurg7418

Жыл бұрын

He is god tier.

Shade above MWorks Ranger? Shade above critbuild Handmaiden? Hard disagree there. Maybe I just hate the class after CoM was removed instead of getting nerfed, but imo, she just doesn't have the DPS source outside of backstab gimmicks, which forces her to go out of position with the team and puts her in great danger.

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

I’d argue shade can match rv in monster damage with a couple of her weapons and setups. Whereas rv can really only do big monster damage with the pistol. Shade doesn’t have to be out of position either, but people do be playing my girl wrong sometimes. Speaking of being out of position that’s basically what happens every time when you dash into a horde to proc power from pain. It’s good against infantry and berserkers, but it’s not an earth shattering setup or anything. Definitely can’t do any serious monster damage.

@Kniazz

Жыл бұрын

​@@WetMagic Power from Pain doesn't require you to dive inside the horde, just surf the edges while blocking or block-cancel at 1st line of mobs. Not really that dangerous. The only raw dps source I see remaining for Shade is a Headshot +% talent. But even that requires some effort. While PfP Handmaiden requires no real effort, just raw dps in it's purest form(like CoM Shade playstyle was). After CoM was removed, i'm consistently scoring higher total damage output with HM than with Shade, which given HM's wide variety of defensive perks seems ridiculous to me. Obviously, a full DPS HM build (attack speed/crits/etc) And dont get me started on Blur, using that thing with 100 ping is a death sentence. Guess I'm really developing a hate for how unwieldy and "one trick pony" Shade feels after rework. And she was one of my mains before one. ugh. as for MW RV - he obliterates monsters, elites, berserkers - even Super Armor gets in trouble if you Ulti.

1:07 You dont need dmg if you never die :) this is called Long war. i am really suprize with this tear list i expect some charakter be higher and some lower. Good to know this.

bountyhunter is secretly the best, tho you are building him wrong, try volley and talents that reload ammo with melee kills and the one that resets your crits with melee kills, is totally S Tier that way.

I disagree with most of the careers but you put engineer on s tier so I liked the video

Playing with you i know how much you hated me playing outcast engineer I knew youd put him in S

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

It’s all love ❤️

I like unchained there is some nice damage!!!

Outcast Engineer is not a glass cannon, lol. He has 30% damage resist, and with a shield is a good frontliner, lol. Staggers monks and heavy armor.

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

If you’re referring to his ablative armor talent, if you take that you have 25% damage reduction until you get hit that is. He’s also got 100 base health which is the lowest possible. Yes he can bring a shield, but with no extra bcr or stamina regen talents you can’t exactly tank properly with it. His lack of mobility and constant need to crank his gun cause him to get hit alot as well. He’s basically needs to be protected at all times.

@KW-jj9uy

Жыл бұрын

@@WetMagic On full book legend runs, where base health is too low, he is probably a glass cannon. My lowest difficulty is Cataclysm, and Sometimes i get lazy with outcast engineer on Cata, and just shieldbash most of the game. only pulling out minigun and torpedos when needed. I can eat a few hits no problem as the temp HP from shieldbashing is great. I find myself frontline tanking, and also saving teamates allot as the torpedo +shield is good for that. Outcast engineer does take skill to use as you are very vulnurable when cranking or shooting minigun. I agree that it is a high DPS class if used properly.

@abaddon130

Жыл бұрын

​@@WetMagic you don't need to crank it everytime if you choose the one Talent that you crank 4 times and forget about it.

dont really agree on waystalker... with longbow up until cata I can basically kill all elites and specials before other careers even have a chance to kill them and with spear she even has great horde clear

@1porp

Жыл бұрын

Waystalker is highly debatable, but then again, a Tier List is totally opinion-based. I know Wet doesn't like Hagbane, but it's probably the highest DPS build on her and that alone would bump the class to at least A-tier when played properly. In fact, you can see around 7:30 the monster HP getting deleted by the DoT haha

@czailoncz

Жыл бұрын

@@1porp Hagstalker is S tier by herself, its such a huge dmg, even on Modded difficuties shes a monster, Official realm is nothing to her.

IB with cog hammer and engi pistol is S+ tier and i can prove it

"You're not always going to be able to hit that headshot" True; But 99/100 shots is still 99 out of a 100 shots. You're undervaluing a lot of the classes with what amounts to straight up skill issue

You guys don’t get tired of spamming dodge? After one mission I feel like I have arthritis

Warlock engineer best class in the entirety of vermintide. Bless the horned rat for how much I love that class. At this point I have over 500hours i to the engineer

Thanks for reminding me they removed the single most fun thing Waystalker had. I really don't get why they removed the double ult bloodshot, whey Bounty Hunter can ult 10 times in 5 seconds with a purple pot and kill wirtualy any enemy in the game that doesn't have invincibility phase...but waystalker can kill 1 wave of rats with her ult ? How dare she ! Back to lame auto-lock for 3 enemies it goes ! Absolute tone-deaf change, she wasn't super strong before, now she legit feels like she has nothing strong going on for her...

Waystalker should be S tier, hagabane is too strong. Shreds hordes/elites/bosses/specials, stagger for days, the bow is amazing even on Modded difficulties, which says a lot. The only thing she needs to use melee for are CWs, which is no issue, or just ult them. The only time i am not playing Hagabane is with IB in team to not proc his passive all the time, but than IB has Trollhamer, making him the best DPS in the game atm, with conservative shooter, he has infinite ammo, damage for days etc.

Footknight low damage 😆 🤣 😂

I saw a career i like in a tier that i disagree with 😢

Grail knight have one weakness. He has no range weapon and it makes him boring

@danielsterling4918

8 ай бұрын

On the contrary I find his need for learning to dodge specials fun, makes topping specials killed in a lobby with multiple special sniper careers feel even more badass when you gotta dodge em and get em in melee

My ironbreaker D tier lmfao get out of here boy😂😂😂

aint no way waystalker is lower than warrior priest

Surprised Waystalker is so low, I tend to do more damage with her than others. But I haven't player her in awhile and I didn't know about the Blood Shot nerf. Which sucks cause it was good for horde clearing using alt with it active.

@czailoncz

Жыл бұрын

People play her with longbow etc. With Hagabane she becomes a monster, kills everything on map with the bow, just CWs have to be killed with melee, which is not an issue.

Can we get a normal tierlist for 2023 😮😮😮???

@WetMagic

Жыл бұрын

Definitely. I’ve been waiting for the next sienna career before I do that one though.

"hunters talents are inconsistant, you won't be able to hit headshots every time" wa wa wa. Skill issue, dude