It's not Nationalism to limit the export of your cutting edge technology to countries that militarily threaten your Allies.

12:16 good general discussion, but I disagree with Scott’s point about our testosterone, causing conflict with China. As a US citizen in Taiwan, I believe you are missing out that China is an authoritarian powerful threat to a shrinking world, which it wants to dominate. “We” (meaning the western world and India, not just the USA )should have an aggressive protectionist attitude. In the future, China will be using whatever tech they can create themselves or take from us against us to control our population, economy and government just because these things affect and threaten them and they want to grow more powerful, it’s not evil it’s just what’s going to happen.

Her background, glossy and perfect skin and lighting: I'm 93.7% certain Verity is an AI bot playing the part of Scott's partner in crime. Anybody with me?

@thomasb.9534

2 ай бұрын

That accent is a little too perfect. I think you're on to something....

@goodmanhtc

2 ай бұрын

Insert origami unicorn

@ducksupps9369

2 ай бұрын

Paranoid psychosis ☠️

@dharma_404

Ай бұрын

Not an AI. Learn to recognize what's real rather than second-guess what you think might be fake.

@makeadifference4all

Ай бұрын

​@@dharma_404He was joking 😂

She seems naive

You aren't going to change the "narrative" about AI being an arms race.. because we humans know what an arms race looks like. It looks like this.

@stevechance150

2 ай бұрын

I'm old enough to remember Alta Vista. We used to have several different search engines, and then Google pulled far ahead of the pack as the "best" search site. The same thing will happen in AI.

The packet switching she brought up was American Paul Baran, who had published in1960-1964, but he called it the inferior name, "Block Switching" while Davies used the name "packet-switching" and presented to the right people from ARPANET at the Symposium on Operating Systems Principles in October 1967. I wouldn't say the same time. The French claim a role in the invention of the internet with TCP as well.

Prof G please can you give a lecture at LSE open events? The uni hosts academics or politicians or people of industry who give an hour or two lecture at LSE, which are free for anyone to attend. Would love to hear you speak!

@chrism.1131

2 ай бұрын

In the US, we drive on the right side of the road and from that you can infer that in the UK they drive on the wrong side of the road

Silicon valley is not America

@kevdaag2523

2 ай бұрын

Yes it is. I checked.

If Scott didn’t invent the phrase “Jazz Hands” he has certainly made it popular. I didn’t understand what Silicon Valley was like but learned a lot from Chamath P. In how this “game” is played…and it’s quite a game…also the UK is so much about culture vs the US which is commerce. The name “Verity” is a throw back to the Victorian era along with “Prudence” and others…they internalized Ancient Greek ideals IMO…

Oh no!!... Verity pulled the "P" word (Passion, as in "follow your passion") on Scott... I think Soctt may have to change his advise to young people of "Don't follow your passion"... See Scott, some people followed their passion and succeeded... 😃

I do think UK & US is a lot like Ancient Greece and Rome. To be fancy, Roman's would learn Greek, Greek philosophy, art, writing etc, and Greece was always seen as the founder of many institutions which Rome admired. The Greeks had a bit of snobby outlook on the Romans. But Rome's empire, military, economy, influence was a 1000 times greater than Greece's. A lot of the legacy of Greece, despite the Roman's conquering of them, was preserved by Rome - a lot of Greek writings, sculptures, plays only exist today due to Roman copies. I think there's a similarity with the UK & US.

@williamforsyth6667

2 ай бұрын

Except, that greece flourished under roman rule, while the UK does not seem to have such a bright future.

@Sumonebody

2 ай бұрын

​@@williamforsyth6667 I wouldn't say Greece flourished, it was a Roman vassal state. It's golden age was pre-Rome. But for sure the analogy is limited - the USA did not conqueror the UK! UK hasn't been a super power for a while, but there's no reason to suggest it'll stop being a regional power, or continue exerting an influence greater than it's size for a long time into the future.

@alexkatsanos8475

2 ай бұрын

The Roman’s were descended from the Etruscan’s a bit on the violent side. Just like the Russian’s spoke French at court because they thought it was sophisticated.

@Sumonebody

2 ай бұрын

Well you have the Sabine Women as a founding myth of the Romans - extreme violence was ingrained in their founding myths and culture@@alexkatsanos8475

@williamforsyth6667

2 ай бұрын

@@Sumonebody "was a Roman vassal state" Not an expert, so relying on popular books and YT history videos. But this is what Wikipedia says about it: "the Greek peninsula was most likely one of the most prosperous regions of the Roman Empire". The romans valued the greek culture and kept the place prosperous.

27:48 Prof describes AI as a 'weapon' after having bashed the Oppenheimer analogy earlier in the video. Discuss.

@kevdaag2523

2 ай бұрын

That's the testosterone talking

In ‘n out > shake shack

@alexcipriani6003

2 ай бұрын

In n out fries > shake shack fries .. that’s about it

@stevechance150

2 ай бұрын

We don't have In n Out here, only shake shack.

@keganhall1011

Ай бұрын

Why is she trying to claim shake shack as British? It started in New York.

Read Hyperion

“Inequality” is a silly way to describe zombie transients

I sell items on ebay which immediately tried to scale back customer service behind a chat bot that didn't work and tried to keep customers from getting assistance from overseas call centers which were already a challenge because of the lack of fluently spoken language. Same thing with the VA....the implementation of new systems that didn't work have made things worse rather than better. I'm sure there was an excuse for shareholders at ebay to give themselves more equity for whatever delusional reason they chose though...

skip. you guys must think your audience are a bunch of clowns... bringing a libral arts ideologue as an ai expert... come on now

@faksibey8906

2 ай бұрын

100% Agreed 👍🏼

@williamforsyth6667

2 ай бұрын

"libral arts ideologue" You do not have to agree, but is worth being open minded. Some experts argue, that AI may solve ration tasks better in the near future but may produce just average solutions for creative tasks. People with "liberal arts degree" may be required to prompt the AI systems to produce more creative results.

@lomotil3370

2 ай бұрын

You beat me to it.

@SR-ti6jj

2 ай бұрын

Do you have any rebuttals to the points she made or do you just want to signal your ideology?

She's going to be disappointed.

I mean less progress would be a god send to humanity due to the alignment problem. So I hope these tech bros do get in the way of progress because the last thing we would want is an unaligned artificial super intelligent being. We get one shot people, less progress, being counterproductive can actually mean giving time for humanity to deal with the exponential power of ai.

@stevechance150

2 ай бұрын

If they were smart enough to keep it air gapped in the lab until they solved the alignment problem, then I'd say we have hope. But they know one system is going to "make the jump to light speed" first, and dominate all the other systems, perhaps literally. They are rushing to get to AGI first with little regard for safety.

Interesting how Verity is quick to dismiss those pushing the tech frontier as narcissistic while her ambition as an author is equally so. Talk about blind spots…

That Oppenheimer thing sounds about right.

There was a Twilight Zone show about computers fighting wars. Computer casualties were taken to a room periodically and executed because they had been killed in the latest battle. It was supposed to be less costly because no military had to be put in place or maintained. Will AI fight the battles in the future?

@Sumonebody

2 ай бұрын

Do you know the episode name, I'd like to watch that! I guess you could counter with the example of 'champion warfare' - two kings or champions to decide a battle is mainly a thing of fiction. And even in fiction (like in Troy when Hector and Achilles duelled) the losing side normally ignores the outcome. Sure our AI armies could fight, but I'm gonna ignore the outcome if I lose... For sure though AI will be implemented in military technology - target acquisition, automatic weapons systems, accelerating testing, increased cyber warfare, information warfare, effects on encryption, intelligence analysis.

@IOFLOOD

2 ай бұрын

I think that's a Star Trek episode

This has aged like a premium Scotch....We need a Remix Prof G

She really nailed US culture and its obsession with the almighty dollar.

"Verity Harding, a globally recognized expert in AI". Another "expert" that has no experience in the field, nor does she even have an applicable degree. I bet she can't even program in Basic.

@bnbnbnmmm

2 ай бұрын

Well no one programs in basic for at least two decades. But she is the head of the ethics department of DeepMind. Let me just remind you of the fiasco of Gemini launch and how stupid it was because it was woke. Some of the reasons google is behind its game in generative ai is because of people like...

@alexvech

Ай бұрын

Ai expert with a thesis in “black studies” SMH

@and1play5

Ай бұрын

Yo, that's what I'm saying. All of- all these fucking podcasters and fake-ass investors, now they fake experts. They don't know shit. They're just old

With all due respect, if you only compare London and New York you don't know America. (If you get a chance to compare Utah, Arizona, Texas, Nevada, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, on and on and on... move inward and feed your soul too.)

"... not to be naive ..." whadda ya mean? this whole conversation is naive!

@stevechance150

2 ай бұрын

People have a difficult time with exponential growth, because it's not something we encounter in nature.

@bd7913

Ай бұрын

@@stevechance150 Are you sure? When resources are abundant it occurs with invasive species populations, as well as with bacterial populations. Probably other examples.

Hands DOWN...In-Out BURGER!!! 🍔😂

we don't have weapons orbiting the earth.... THAT WE KNOW OF. 🤔

Verity. At least they didn’t go with Tiffany or Krystal.

I see, she doesn't like making money and California's about making money and the inequality. do these people actually hear what they're saying? My guess is she's giving her book away for free too.

what an incredible conversation, just ordered her book

She lost all credibility when she said Shake Shack is better than In'N'Out

That was an incredibly dull and superficial conversation. Wasted 31 minutes.

I have the word, “Artificial Intelligence” in my Master’s Degree Transcript, and I have been doing AI / ML since 2005. I can do a better job than both of them. This is ridiculous to listen to . . . You are misinforming large segments of society.

@ethaneberle1242

2 ай бұрын

Misinforming them about..?

@faksibey8906

2 ай бұрын

@@ethaneberle1242Are you joking? 28:00 Advice is read history and politics and talk to people to be an AI expert? Do you really think it is that easy? Do you really think people are that stupid?

@williamforsyth6667

2 ай бұрын

@@faksibey8906 "to be an AI expert" Seems I watched a different video, where she said something like: "you do not have to become an AI expert, because other disciplines will be equally important for the integration of AI". I don't necessarily agree with her, but it is less stupid than the claim she made in your video.:)

@faksibey8906

2 ай бұрын

@@williamforsyth6667 I do not tell my lawyer what to do because I do not have a law degree. Why would anyone listen to Verity Harding because has NO education in Artificial Intelligence? Does education matter?

@faksibey8906

2 ай бұрын

@@williamforsyth6667Recommendation Engines are a type of AI that comes from Reinforcement Learning in AI courses, and it originally came from Behavior Psychology from Reinforcement Theory. Verity Harding does NOT know that because has NO education in AI. Psychology is that "other disciplines", and again, she is the WRONG person to interview.

AI is going to cause major disruptions in cyber warfare and in jobs. Change society or be a nothingburger are both bad takes imo

@stevechance150

2 ай бұрын

OpenAI is going to release a "Virtual Remote Employee" AI, and it's going to replace all remote workers. If your job involves sitting in front of a computer screen all day, your job is threatened by AI.

She lost me when talking about the Space Race, saying there was "no need to go to the moon." The human race has always explored.

@lomotil3370

2 ай бұрын

She has no business talking on the subject.

@andriivladyka4359

2 ай бұрын

Cannot agree more. The only thing that matters is competition. Humans are competitive by nature, there is no way it’s going to stop. All this nonsense about collaboration between nations is, well, just nonsense. I am glad she is not the one who defines national policy.

@Kenneth_James

2 ай бұрын

The need was, if Soviets go Moon... maybe own space? Put boom boom on moon. Say communist rule, capitalist drool. We go moon first! Now Soviets drool!

@getme.global

2 ай бұрын

yes what was the immediate need back at the time that justified 2% of gdp, what did they bring back from there? All the need is mainly grom space coming not from the moon 🌙 i think her point about it was a very different one i sure you figure it out when you listen to it again

She is not fit for the job

It’s not macho to want to get things done!? Lmao so it’s macho to want to go to the moon. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. No wonder googles gemini sucks so bad. My gosh people GO OUTSIDE. Lol

Loser episode

Those in the comments saying she can't be an expert in AI because she can't code. That's like saying Simon Cowell isn't a music industry expert because he can't play the piano. 😂 Judge her on the merits of her arguments not whether she has a technical background. PS. Not saying I agree with all her arguments.

Differences with UK & US: UK political institutions are more democratic. Less influence of money in politics. Institutions are significantly older and more mature - our uncodified constitution is 1000 years old, universities, the political system, scientific institutions etc. News and media is more objective. Politics is significantly less partisan. Less inequality and extreme poverty. Larger safety nets, public institutions (namely free healthcare). Larger state more regulation to protect citizens - higher food safety standards, ban on high risk financial instruments. Greater workers rights - more PTO, more public holidays, mat leave. Greater education and literacy rates. UK is more global from it's position in the globe and being a smaller geographical country. No 1st amendment, - as a result significantly less issue of police brutality. Better race relations - never been a history of segregation, race is really a non issue in the UK. UK's influence is waning, but it's history still draws a lot of people, and the UK's influence still punches above it's weight (politics, film, music, sports, military imprint). Having said that, the UK has many negatives, the US has many positives. And I do think (as brexit vote showed), the UK is more culturally close to the US, than it is with Europe.