Velocity systems SLAAP plate and British Army Virtus helmet Ballistic test
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@interstellartravel461
Жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you for this video. Please do a ballistic test of the British Mk6a helmet as well (not the older Mk6), as these Mk6a helmets are one the models that my country (UK) has sent to Ukraine's armed forces. It would be great to know if we are actually giving them appropriate kit and no one else has posted a ballistic test video on this model!
@dr_dacosta7870
Жыл бұрын
May you do a MiCH 2000 helming test?
@dukenukem8381
11 ай бұрын
Way to support a russian company, which is just registered in Budapest but actually works from moscow
@Oxide_does_his_best
11 ай бұрын
@@dukenukem8381 nobody is gonna play their shitty game based on this advertising
@2woLetters
10 ай бұрын
@@interstellartravel461I’m interested as well, since I own one
When we got issued our Virtus helmets, the troops engaged in the usual shenanigans and found that with a strong headbutt the helmets would crack apart. Thus everyone (not actually familiar with how helmets and body armour react to different kinds of impacts) assumed the helmet would in no way be able to stop a bullet. Glad you've cleared that up for us!
@Salt249
Жыл бұрын
That is the most boot fucking thing Iv ever heard
@silverpandaws6230
Жыл бұрын
It will still kill you with backface deformation.
@weberismail1076
Жыл бұрын
Actually, the British army is not transparency enough on the ballistic level........ quite difficult to find info on this. You're right, really thank Oxide to test it.
@Kramer_pphead
Жыл бұрын
one of my buds destroyed a standard issue soviet ww2 helmet by throwing it into a tree
@weberismail1076
Жыл бұрын
@@Kramer_pphead Was his one in good condition?
As a Canadian I am so proud to be represented by oxide, truly a great "Canadian" icon.
@thunderthys2077
Жыл бұрын
Same
@andresvalverde5182
Жыл бұрын
eh mate
@Struggle-Snuggle
Жыл бұрын
He's ours now, get your own Oxide!
@Oxide_does_his_best
3 ай бұрын
Heh
@ArtOfTheCarbine
3 ай бұрын
The Cascading Canadian.
Nice virtuous helmet mate
@Disl3cic
Жыл бұрын
Tacfrogggggg!
@Chiller01
Жыл бұрын
Does one virtue signal by wearing a virtuous helmet?
@deusvult8331
Жыл бұрын
This is a virtuous mission snake
@valothebrute4028
Жыл бұрын
@@deusvult8331 virtual mission?
@akman1947
Жыл бұрын
It’s got a roman legionary helmet vibe to it. Pretty cool
The Virtus program was a competition between several companies with competing package, and the reason why the British went with this Revision helmet, tis’ the overall price tag of Source’s package. The MK7 was a UOR, where they took an existing helmet shell (the AC900) used for law enforcement and counter terrorism, and gave it a different chinstrap system and bolted on the liner (commercial versions of NPA helmets aren’t bolted). With it being a commercial shell, it’s no surprised that it performed better than the Revision helmet. The Revision helmets aren’t 3A or anything close to it - They were essentially purchased as frag helmets if you go by the tender. Not all specs are public, but by the looks of it the passing criteria was 575m/s minimum V50 with chisel nose FSP.
SLAAP'd that like button for this awesome helmet test
For anyone interested, the SLAAPs have actually been used by the SAS. One was spotted back in 2017 during the raids in Manchester and another on a former G Sqn trooper during training.
@alfredfree3
Жыл бұрын
They’ve been around since WWII when Germany started using them to be able to pop their heads up out the trenches and still survive. But it was a piece of steel that either was welded, tied or hung on cams. Them choosing to wear them was due to their environment and threat level. So we’re talking about bottles lumber piping so they wore them to allow them a little more head protection. But I honestly hate how ppl test helmets it’s unrealistic and you’re purposely causing it to fail. Most of the time head shots aren’t squared up with it and close enough to shake hands. The rounds normally deflect off the curve of the helmet and the round has lost and continue on losing energy making less of a impact.
@marcusborderlands6177
3 ай бұрын
@@alfredfree3the helmets are supposed to be rated for square hits, so that's what people test. As for distance oxide himself usis special loads to simulate distant hits.
After seeing every single one of your helmet videos, I am increasingly thankful I was issued a plane Jane ACH and just upgraded the suspension.
Would be interested in seeing what the ballistic capabilities of the SLAAP plate are on its own. If it can stop certain pistol rounds by itself, it might be a cheap upgrade to add some ballistic protection to a bump helmet.
@handcraftedgetget2918
Жыл бұрын
I don't think them fuckin things are cheap
@ShogunMongol
Жыл бұрын
@@handcraftedgetget2918They're actually only like $100 off Arms Unlimited, I think they got a batch that some police agency ended up surplusing for whatever reason.
The only thing I know about these plates, is that they sell very good on the Flea Market
@Mozze
Жыл бұрын
they be savin my live many times bro, if you find one i would use it but if you broke ust sell it and buy a boss cap
i am once again asking for fajv biljon rokets
HYPE for the C8 and Canadian armour teased at the end!
3:50 was just thinking that a SLAP plate would probably be nice if you're the point man on an entry team
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
There are ceramic versions made by other companies that have better ratings that weigh the same. It would be nice.
@Kony20202
Жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best can you name then please?
@autisticANDarmed
Жыл бұрын
I mean I got it for $99 on arms unlimited and put it on my ACH for a while. For that price it’s definitely worth picking up even as a novelty
@FrantisekPicifuk
Жыл бұрын
@@MrEpicAndroid why?
@rollieroulston
Жыл бұрын
@@Kony20202 The Diamond Age Bastion appliqué plate, TRVTECH also make a ceramic add on plate. Hardheadveterans make a ceramic plate for their ATE GEN2 ballistic helmet, there's probably more out there
Polyethylene is a great protective material so long as you aren't concerned with back face deformation... With helmets, that's a big no-no... With squishy chest ribs that can take significantly more blunt trauma, that's not so bad given the weight savings. I believe that there's a few new materials on the market that are more protective than kevlar while boasting significantly less weight and bulk, making the package lighter and more protective... That said polyethylene is a very easy, cheap material to mass produce, but ultimately won't be as protective as titanium alloy or hybrid material helmets
@SuperAWaC
Жыл бұрын
I wonder why we don't see PE over steel. Could use thinner steels that would resist backface deformation
@kentuckyace1068
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperAWaC spalling is too big of an issue, and steel is heavier with less protective qualities than even ceramics
@dashans6175
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperAWaC that and the combination with kevlar against the spall, maybe? Outer shell PE over thin steel with kevlar-backing/more PE?
@V3RTIGO222
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperAWaC Honestly the problem with steel is if it does deform it is permanently deformed, and harder steel will splinter and fragment... that and the additional weight. Generally ballistics has shown that ideally you want to break up the projectile and catch the less energetic fragments which significantly reduces both penetration and back-face deformation. Placing a hard surface on the rear effectively means that the softer front offers little to no resistance in slowing the projectile, and ultimately reduces overall protection when the projectile or it's fragments goes through. I think a very hard but thin carbon/tungsten ceramic wedge, polyethelene layer, titanium sheet, then a more modern kevlar equivalent could be the most ideal method for stopping high energy, high penetration rounds. Titanium notably results in ricochets (more than steel even) but also offers more protection at a lower weight and PE is rather good at catching spall. By disrupting a round through different materials you typically have a greater loss in overall energy, standoff plating on tanks uses a similar principle but relies on air gaps to give the projectile more room to destabilize and saves on weight while adding bulk.
@Bagginsess
Жыл бұрын
Titanium alloys with graphene trauma pad is the future. Look up that titanium shield that Edwin Sarkissian shot with a .50 BMG, a thinner version of that should be light enough for a rifle rated helmet.
My theory is that this video was created using a voice synthesis of oxides voice so he can save time and money
@turnip5359
Жыл бұрын
AI voices have that lack of range of human expression so you might actually be right lmao
love the tests; Canadian gear review teaser?
Hello Oxide!!👋 Can’t wait for the historical testing! Any armor, rounds or helmets from WWI/WWII would be awesome 🪖
It should be brought into consideration that the virtus helmet entered service in 2014 which is significantly earlier than the other polyethylene helmets that were tested
@Tree457
Жыл бұрын
The ECH was the first Polyethylene helmet on the block and it was made in 2009 I believe (one source says 2007).
@karakarakiri9568
Жыл бұрын
@@Tree457 Isn't the first polyethylene helmet widely adopted the french spectra ? Would be interesting to test since Canada used it own spectra version.
@jeremys6930
Жыл бұрын
@@Tree457That is important information to consider, do we know if the ech in 2009 (2007) had been at all changed/ updated since then. Another point of interest is the virtus helmet is a basically a licensed copy of a galvion helmet (Baltskin Cobra plus). And I wonder if the performance is the Same.
Good choice of music, AT never disappoints.
This song is used in the intro of the skate video Es Menikemati, never heard it used anywhere else. This makes me happy.
I love getting home to a new Oxide video.
Remember kids: ounces lead to pounds, pounds lead to pain
@fiskersproductions
Жыл бұрын
No bigger pain than getting your brains spread out into your bucket
Finally used those Norinco 7.62s. Nice
@dlistmemer591
Жыл бұрын
I have the second box if you need it
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
@@dlistmemer591I do need it
Bravo! Good Show!
Always good to hear Amon Tobin
Love this camera quality
Primary advantage of the Virtus was the not insigificant reduction in weight, rather than ballistic performance
Intersting video expecially for me since some of us in the Danish army are currently still using the Revision Cobra helmet back in 2012 they said it was the best helmet of potection on the marked well thats not true for sure but its doing what its should do stop fragmentation still suprised that it coulded hold up and defeat the AP9mm.
Good shit I was hoping you’d touch on virtus
cant wait for the steel pot vid
I would love to see you test an Avon Protection helmet if you haven’t yet. They seem good quality
One of my lads got shot in the helmet in Afghan by a 7.62 back in 2009 when we first got them issued. The round hit front centre and then defeats around the left hand side and out the back it saved his life.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
I'd like more details if you wouldn't mind. Did it hit the mount?
More of a general question but how do the highcom helmets compare to the ECH and would their arimid dynama hybrid preform better than a regular uhmwpe helmet?
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
Great question. I need to test their RCH
Very nice indeed
What if you test a slaap plate on an Altyn against M855A1? XD Great new video btw! Always looking forward to the next one. I've been a fan since the real Altyn helmet test you did that debunked many of the fake replika videos! When I saw it, I knew I had come across a quality channel.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
Then it would be very heavy! Thanks bro
@AlexNV75
Жыл бұрын
Bro would need a Herculean neck to support that weight lol
@qwe304
Жыл бұрын
An altyn is ont a few mm of titanium, iirc only rated for 9x18. It'd blow through both sides.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
@@qwe304 An Altyn is rated for steel core tokarev and can stop SS190 5.7 ammo. Watch my K6 video because I worked too hard for you to spew such ignorance
@qwe304
Жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best swear I read it somewhere, but fair enough. Still I'd be quite surprised if A1 didn't punch through, the polyethylene would not do much to slow it down and the steel core is large
Cool
The bastion helmet and its special plate would.make for a great test
I know you did a video on the xof gear from metal gear solid, is there any chance to get the closest thing to a sneaksuit or the battle dress from mgs? If not it's cool, I'm still finding the content enjoyable and interesting.
It's been a minute since i've heard slowly by Amon Tobin. MENIKMATI FOR LIFE!!!!!
You have a gift. I was hanging on your every word. I have ADHD so to say it is impressive is an understatement. Thanks for the info. Can't wait to see what you do next. Also have a question. Which resin are you using? Do you have a brand you prefer.
4:28 made me feel a sadistic amount of glee, cementing my belief that the British military is still behind on many things and is slow to improve.
Im excited for the TW video coming.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
It performed similar to an Opscore XR with slightly less deformation
Давай ещё по шлемам постреляй, братуха. Реально годная информация.
WOO T-Blocc!
Can't wait for the steel helmets
Very Cool
I would love to see a very angular, steel up armour kit for a helmet
Oxide’s shifting gears to testing Steelpots. Again. Patrons be warned.
Hey Oxi can you test one of those surplus Pasgt helmet from the 90s ?
I have novice questions: are any velocity available to civilians and are they worth it otherwise? I see LE and MIL run them sometimes and they look great. I am wondering how they compare to other rigs and helmets. Thanks.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
They're on sale on random websites for 100 a piece. Use your own judgement
@flonga1
Жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best thanks sir for the info. I’ll do my own research and find out as I’m not able to currently make a sound judgement with my lack of knowledge
Man has the 5 inch riser
New vid lets goo
Can you please test the Team Wendy EXFIL helmet that's currently being used by the Australian Army?
Noble sacrifices of tacfrogs helmet
@tacfrog_on_youtube
Жыл бұрын
☝🏽
I wonder If you somehow could manage to get Indonesian made bulletproof plates or helmets and test em out.
Always so cool to see these things tested out. Always was curious about the SLAAP. Just FYI Applique is pronounced "App-lick-kay", not "app-leak" tho.
Wouldnt want you to shoot that ww1 helmet but what is it rated for with the machine gunners front plate on it?
will you test Ulbricht lvl4 helmet in the future?
Ah, an Amon Tobin enjoyer.
I wonder if the SLAAP plate works with a ballistic visor on a PASGT? I'll have to check it
nice
Arms Unlimited has SLAAPs for $99
When in high intensity conflict, this helmet works better than the High cut helmets of any type.
@Ranstone
9 ай бұрын
Clearly not. The evidence is right before your eyes in this video. And the Team Wendy he tested next stopped a 7.62x39 subsonic.
@marccronshaw7874
4 ай бұрын
@@RanstoneI think he meant by protection against shrapnel. As a high cut exposes your ears and sides of your head to the elements when compared to a full size helmet
Slammin
it seems that polyethylene with aramid is the sweetspot for weight and protection.
Curious to see how the M56/76 stacks up with the rest of the steel helmets
@ATruckCampbell
Жыл бұрын
Judging by Mike's video on it, and assuming Oxide gets one with the same steel quality, I assume it will be one of if not the best, and will likely outperform some kevlar helmets.
@channel-rv4hz
Жыл бұрын
@@ATruckCampbell the Iraqi Darth Vader helmet is an indestructible design blessed with the grace of allah i doubt it could ever be bested by infidel steel… if such a gift can be found
I got these surplus slaap plates for a good deal and slapped it on my chicom Militech fast helmet lol
Anyone know what size SLAAP plate would work with an XL ACH? Asking for a friend..
Is that Kruschiki's T-block i see there? 👀👀👀👀
I think the UK need a new helmet.
@Tremulousnut
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this was part of the package that won the Virtus tender.
Can you do a test on the revision viper a3 vs the viper p2?
Oxide sounds a bit different this video. It sounds like an ai trying to mimic his voice at times.
I got a question, how do you guys get m855a1? Isn't that illegal to buy?
@T800123
Жыл бұрын
No, why would it be? The Army's contract doesn't let the manufacturer sell it for civilian use, but it's perfectly legal. It's pretty fucking expensive, though, and the people providing it for initial resale are probably stealing it so yeah, that's not exactly legal... as a buyer though you're fine.
We're going to need to see an integration of graphene into body armor before we see an advantage in protective technology
does it really make any sense to be testing these things at near point blank range?
That kruschiki smok
Any chance you can test a Portuguese M940 steel helmet?
Please try get some British plates and virtus armour
Team Wendy is gonna be an interesting one
Is this the oxide in Maddie's channel? If I have the wrong one I do apologize!
Would love a opscore rf1 test can we crowd find that?
I want to see a highcom rifle rated helmet and their striker line for comparison to an opscore or a ech.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
Donate
@Liionhawt
Жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best let me mail you my $2.5k helmet for you to destroy (I don’t own one) 😂 I’m hoping highcom sees this comment and donates one on my behalf.
@fiskersproductions
Жыл бұрын
@@Liionhawt email them, see if they'll put their money where their mouth is
Took my Mk6A to Afghanistan twice. Nobody ever expected it to stop a bullet in the first place.
Next Test UArms Tor D from UA?
So M855A1 is a pretty deadly bullet irl n in tarkov
neat
I can understand why some may have concerns about the results here, but the fact is that the test does not replicate what the helmet is supposed to do. Military requirements are that the helmet has a specified V50. Once test samples demonstrate they can meet this, then they pass as suitable. The Virtus helmet passed this easily. It is designed to stop shrapnel to a set size and velocity as this is the main battlefield threat.
DUDE!!, Your brother from Denmark here, in the Danish Armed Forces we use Cobra Helmet as well, we do not wear helmets to stop bullets, just fragmentation. I would rather wear a helmet that dosent stop a 9x19 round, have it be as light as possible and be able to mount my NVG's...
@fiskersproductions
Жыл бұрын
You should really look into steel pots, they've been stopping frag since ww1 and weigh less
@christianbach4986
Жыл бұрын
@@fiskersproductions You had to edit your comment after your brain fart?
@fiskersproductions
Жыл бұрын
@@christianbach4986 it was a typo
@skulldozer1462
Жыл бұрын
Then bump helmets it is then
The funny thing about helmets is they are usual on a soldiers head and not a barrel or held on a stick.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
Headform doesn't change results :)
Funny how people lived calling the 47 shit when it failed against some pistol rounds, yet when it happens here people live to point out that helmets are mainly for shrapnel.
They should cover the whole helmet in that
@tanaziolopez1936
21 күн бұрын
Most necks would break
@allycatnaranjo8960
21 күн бұрын
@@tanaziolopez1936 I doubt that. They could use some sort of heck mount
I would absolutely love to see how Polish wz 31 "Salamandra" WWII steel helmet performs in your test.
Almost missed this video. Got banned from the discord when my account got hacked sadge
I'm curious how the SLAAP and ACH together would do against 55 gr M193...
@nicolas8098
Жыл бұрын
M193 isn't much of a threat against PE . M855 would fuck it tho
as far as i'm aware the thinking behind modern helmets is to stop fragmentation from clusters/drones/nades scrambing your brains rather than point black rounds.. also I think considerations for the helmet stopping rounds at TYPICAL engagment ranges for the respective army which again isn't point blank. just because something is rated for something it in no way tells the whole story. point blank with deformations like that you're probably dead from head trauma regardless of penetration and you seem to be making a very surface level and niave judgement of this equipment
@Oxide_does_his_best
3 ай бұрын
Industry standard calls for muzzle length shots at specific fps. There are no ballistic ratings in the world that call for long range hits. It has to be a point blank shot to even mimic lab testing
All I’m gonna say is if you got hit centre helmet with a steel core on a slap with no penetration you’re out of action, spinal damage,TBI, a colleague took a round to a tbh 2 111a, minor penetration but deflected the round,he’s still around, 99% of helmets are only designed for for frag regardless of material, the mk7a was a good helmet if a bit heavy.
@nicolas8098
Жыл бұрын
Fragmentation from mortars and other artillery can often be more violent than 9x19
I'm really wondering if steel plates have a place on helmets maybe, could it be possible to redesign a helmet to be supported partially on the shoulders like a cowl?
@unseenentity7085
Жыл бұрын
I've toyed-around with the idea of helmets having a neck-brace-like collar to pair with, which puts the weight of the system into the shoulders rather than the neck, allowing for more material to be used in the helmet without as much concern for weight. The idea came to me from competitive jousting helmets which prevented spinal and concussive injuries in tournaments back in the late middle-ages. Considering that current fighting doctrine around individual movement demands the combatant present themselves square to the enemy to provide ample coverage of body armor; I could imagine specialized units being trained to wear more cumbersome and movement-limiting armor for quick surgical engagements such as hostage rescue or boarding ships at sea, wherein the comfortability of the combatant isn't a priority of equipment selection, as they won't be in the field wearing such equipment for extended periods of time.
@ethancobb4002
Жыл бұрын
I dont think this will be a very popular option as its very common for people to assume the prone position during a firefight! This would be very uncomfortable. In addition to having to wear a heavier bit of kit, you could be out in the field for days or weeks depending on your role.
@BlightfulProductions
Жыл бұрын
@@ethancobb4002 maybe an Aventail counterweight/nape protection could be considered?
have you got access to a British army mk6 helmet? id liek to see that one get shot may be able to source one if i can find it, you game?
@trechtzach8151
Жыл бұрын
There's no point in doing one. The MK6 going to stop much of anything because it is a nylon helmet. MK6A, that's a different story, as it is made of nylon and aramid.
@Tremulousnut
Жыл бұрын
There’s already a lot of videos on the MK6, and with it being a nylon helmet, it is a waste of time. MK6A however, would be interesting as they are nylon with aramid added for improved ballistic protection.
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