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@VeganV5912

2 жыл бұрын

“I am the one that’s responsible, what’s happened” Jeffrey Dahmer . kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6Ftusyjg8bYhbw.html !!!!

@VeganV5912

2 жыл бұрын

Adam and Eve were vegan. They live centuries old. ✅❤️😬🦷👨🏼‍🦳👩🏼‍🦳🐑🦁🐰.....’ Which is the psssychoooo ??? 😈🔥😫🦠🍖🔴🐮🐷🐣🐔🐟.... ??? 👨🏼‍🦳🔥😫🦠🍖🔴🐮🐷🐣🐔🐟.... ??? 👨🏼‍🦳✅😃🌾🍄🍏🍊🍇🍆🍅🥬🥦🥕🌰🌮🥙🍛.... ??? Genesis 1:29 29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.” Isaiah 65:25 "The wolf and the lamb shall feed together; the lion shall eat straw like an ox; but the serpent-its food shall be dust! They shall not hurt or destroy on all my holy mountain”

@v.a.n.e.

2 жыл бұрын

It would be fascinating to hear your thoughts on whether you would declare yourself a conscientious objector if such circumstances occurred. what would be your response if your motherland asked you for a help?

@VeganV5912

2 жыл бұрын

Eating animaIs is COVlD-19.. 😒🦠🥓🍳🍔🍣🍗🥩🌭🍤🍕🍖. You’re not supposed to eat animaIs and their secretions. No fibre if you eat animIls and cheese and milk etc !!!! We’ve got long long guts. Flat teeth 🦷. Little flat teeth 😬. Moving left and right |-_| . We are herbivores. We act like ‘Omnivores’, and get blocked arteries eating animals fat deposits clog the arteries. Cancer high blood pressure diabetes strokes. 51% death rate !!! That is extremely high for a 5 minute burger etc !!!! Vegans have 4% cancer and that’s it. Peer review science !!!! GoriIlas are herbivores. They never ever eat animals. And they are huge ✅❤️💪🦍. 98.6% the same as us !!! 1% cancer in the wild !!!! COVlD-19, Plant based diet, they had a 73% lower risk, then meat eaters. Peer reviewed science. kzread.info/dash/bejne/l214spV6kbepZJs.html ..

@VeganV5912

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/jGiC1a-if7DTc7w.html . Dr. Sofia P. Ochoa. William C. Roberts, M.D. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqGM29B9fM7IiLw.html ‘Cholesterol can only be gotten from animal-based foods.’ .

Being an engineer isn't actually about finding technical solutions but about outcompeting other engineers with power and bloodlust.

@Matheus-si8vq

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@calhoot3577

2 жыл бұрын

Well obviously

@libertyvegan6686

2 жыл бұрын

I'm an engineer and I approve this statement.

@pussyhammer6969

2 жыл бұрын

Lollllllllllll! >.

@tigerlilly3727

2 жыл бұрын

think 'Howard' from the big bang theory XD

I'm beginning to question how big of a Vegan Ed really is. His bloodlust levels are off the charts according to the slaughter I just witnessed.

@vaurien3694

2 жыл бұрын

It was humane tho, I don't see a problem there.

@alonsohdzf

2 жыл бұрын

Great one! 😂😂

@fannyboni472

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao 😂🤣! Excellent one, excellent !

@eugeniabarone

2 жыл бұрын

humanely slaughtered 😂

@PS-ol4js

2 жыл бұрын

Hehehe

Ed’s mouth: “sure” “absolutely” Ed’s mind: “WTF????”

@helenlamb2432

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on - that's very funny 😄

@miystran

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@chainamarie03

Жыл бұрын

Ed's trying very hard not to burst out laughing.

@tsikinite

Жыл бұрын

As a vegan, I admire his respect I think that is how we promote our movement.

@John-kb7pv

Жыл бұрын

@@tsikinite It's one way to promote the movement. There is also a place for the ruder more abrasive vegans in the promotion of veganism

As a vegan engineer I found that one statement pretty hilarious. Can't say I noticed any reduced bloodlust affecting my work when I became vegan.

@mayhu3282

9 ай бұрын

Well, I certainly find myself much calmer and understanding since I started eating whole plant based. Difficult to know the cause/effect since about the same time I started meditating daily too

Ed: “What do you need that bloodlust for?” Warrior carnivore: “engineering is competitive.”

@Matheus-si8vq

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@tigerlilly3727

2 жыл бұрын

those excel sheet sessions get pretty intense.

@emilymulvihill3545

2 жыл бұрын

“Engineering is competitive.” Engineering is competitive!? Dude how freaking competitive bc I’ve been in some pretty competitive situations in my 30 years on this planet and NEVER have I had to harness “blood lust” to win. Wtf do they do in engineering school. Jesus!

@doraavila7808

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@LarsLighthouse

2 жыл бұрын

I swear that line felt like it was from an SNL cold opening.

I am genuinely and legitimately frightened listening to this guy, knowing there are so many others like him in the world too.

@eggtimers

2 жыл бұрын

He sounds like a normal guy... His idea of inheriting these "traits" from the dead animals is just more excuses... so strange

@garycooper4910

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, especially the US has a much higher population of violent people. Maybe that is because of the high consumption of red meat in this country. This guy being interviewed is NOT at the upper level of intelligence.

@Tibyon

2 жыл бұрын

The internet has rotted this boy's brain

@mrSam3ooo

2 жыл бұрын

definitely gave me school shooter vibes

@Vunderbread

2 жыл бұрын

He's not crazy, just a young edgelord. Many of us were similar when we were teenagers, the appeal of searching for truth was outweighed by how radical you can make your opinions.

"I don't want to be part of a world where being kind is a weakness" ~Keanu Reeves

This guy is the perfect demonstration of weakness, he literally thinks that he needs to abuse others to feel his power, and also have to rely on consuming the weak to maintain his power lmao

@ericholder1603

2 жыл бұрын

Y’all are strange in here….

@evilsdirtylittlesister4299

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericholder1603 veganism is a sanctuary for the mentally ill. They think they gain a moral reputation by feeling sorry for something.

@MlgDuckies

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericholder1603 cry 😢

@annettebrunner5993

2 жыл бұрын

I never thought about Engineering creating egotistical, self righteous, entitled individuals. They work hard, no doubt. So do other professions that seem to possess more grace, courtesy and respect. This video explains so much more than the positivity of choosing to be a vegan.

@el29

Жыл бұрын

you totaly misst his point and also the other 249 vegetables likes with you lool...... He was talking about evolution perspective and hierchies,, omfg....lmao........Go look at the ancestors to humans etc Champenzees and others how they can act.... lool. Dont bother responding "ding" i dont use YT notifications.

we asked non-vegans to come up with literally any new argument for YEARS and here we are he really delivered congrats my guy ♥

@elpretender1357

2 жыл бұрын

This is a moment of celebration

@fannyboni472

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@niken538

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making me realize this, I’m cracking a cold one with the boys to celebrate 🥳

@DeTofuKing

2 жыл бұрын

I had to break out the vodka for this one

@suicune2001

2 жыл бұрын

LOL! Right! I'll have to add this one to the list.

Guy: "Eating meat is unproblematic because animals have 0 moral worth." "Eating meat can cause people to be more violent." "Killing animals makes you a monster". "Being a monster is a GOOD thing." No, dude, what you are reffering to is power. Humans have POWER over animals. We can CHOOSE to abuse that power, or we can transform it into responsibility. Strength is RESPONSIBILITY - not domination or violence. A strong man is someone who can be strong for the weaker, not someone who selfishly kill others to satiate aesthetic preferances..

@occamsaturn

2 жыл бұрын

Especially since that power is very circumstantial This guy would feel very differently pitted against animals with power over him

@fromeveryting29

2 жыл бұрын

@@occamsaturn oh yeah, absolutely.

@VeganV5912

2 жыл бұрын

@@occamsaturn Gorilla Genus of large African apes For other uses, see Gorilla (disambiguation). “Blackback” and “Silverback” redirect here. For other uses, see Blackback (disambiguation) and Silverback (disambiguation). Not to be confused with Guerrilla. Gorillas are herbivorous, predominantly ground-dwelling great apes that inhabit the tropical forests of equatorial Africa. The genus Gorilla is divided into two species: the eastern gorilla and the western gorilla, and either four or five subspecies. The DNA of gorillas is highly similar to that of humans, from 95 to 99% depending on what is included, and they are the next closest living relatives to humans after chimpanzees and bonobos. W. ikipedia

@VeganV5912

2 жыл бұрын

@@occamsaturn “I am the one that’s responsible, what’s happened” Jeffrey Dahmer . kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6Ftusyjg8bYhbw.html !!!!

@VeganV5912

2 жыл бұрын

@@occamsaturn .. Like CharIes Man🖕son. Proxy killing... 👈🤥🍖🔴.... 🙄. Over a burger. 5 minute burger !! Animals life gone for good !! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Twice a Coooooooo-ward !!!! Hypoooocrite. Big time. I was a hypocrite. But now I’m vegan. Don’t hurt animals. Simple really. ✅🤷🏼‍♂️. KZread delicious vegan food. Time to change.... ✅

This guy’s argument: Part one: “Eating meat is non-negotiable for me because it makes me feel like a big tough boy. That’s more important than the suffering I cause.” Part two: “Eating meat is non-negotiable for America because being cruel to animals is practice for being cruel to other people, and that’s what keeps us on top.”

@dimitrisskar4174

2 жыл бұрын

XD im tired of their bs

@joshwarrey3728

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, spoken like a true bloodlust-y Christian. Makes me more proud to be an anti-religion atheist

@Aircooledbliss

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshwarrey3728 it has nothing to do with Christianity, maybe with “modern” Christianity, for people interpreting it wrongly by speculation and drawing conclusions from one’s own mind, but the first commandment is thou shalt not kill. Easy as that. And I’m not even Christian myself. And so every every religion started out, to be a guide for morality and for connecting ourselfs with out source. Meaning to know our selfs and God and to actually treat everything as sacred. However most spritual practices have degenerated with time so if one wants to get spiritual understanding one better approach a Bona fide line of gurus where the knowledge are unchanged and where the preacher is a living example of what is preached and what the scripture are saying. So religion is meant to be a tool for spiritual understanding in essence. Scary what ppl who claim to be “religious” are actually thinking and acting…

@joshwarrey3728

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aircooledbliss bru, Christianity is a death cult with a forced impregnation and a human sacrifice at the core of their beliefs :D

@el29

Жыл бұрын

Actually if you have studied evolution and biology and chimpanzees, his tribe explaination isnt that faar off, but i understand for a ideological made up bias pretensious vegan on "high horses" that is self created without any evidence in evolution, it can be.

"I approve of oppressing those beneath me" How'd you come to that decision "I'm Christian." 🤦🏻

@shro_okee

2 жыл бұрын

certified 'ooof' moment, at least bloodlust guy is honest about it

@idontcare1102

2 жыл бұрын

i'm not surprised lmao

@extropiantranshuman

Жыл бұрын

and yet he didn't want the US to be oppressed by china - he wants to do the oppressing, not others.

@el29

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh so you are against peoples religions ?. Okay....Islamaphobia or Christianphobia or what can it be ?.

@extropiantranshuman

Жыл бұрын

@@el29 well he lives in a country of freedom of religion. Yet many christians I know believe that the US is a christian country. What's wrong with having phobias against religions? I have a fear of violence and these religions promote it!

This dude won the gold medal 🏅 for mental gymnastics.

@sebastianedwards4668

2 жыл бұрын

Aka top tier bellendary

@ShutterAuthority

2 жыл бұрын

Hahah right and he terribly crash landed on his neck breaking his spine in trying to do so.

@AaronNGray

2 жыл бұрын

Gosh the guy looks healthy like hes got animal fat coming out of his face in spots !

@mynamejacob8678

2 жыл бұрын

POWER AND BLOODLUST lol

@udden82

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, yes he did! What an absolut genius on the mat of creativity!

It always boils down to somebody rationalising the shit out of their biased opinion.

@MassMultiplayer

2 жыл бұрын

yep bias after bias, thats why i love to orbiting of sentience and essential, then they are stuck circular biasing as long as they can

@bluemeister22

2 жыл бұрын

Morality is subjective, therefore its an opinion, something vegans just can't understand.

@niken538

2 жыл бұрын

@@bluemeister22 except he’s using that argument as a fact to justify eating meat?

@bluemeister22

2 жыл бұрын

@@niken538 I'm just saying that eating meat can never be factually immoral, because morality is just an opinion.

@bluemeister22

2 жыл бұрын

@AjA9873 Depens on the victim, my taste pleasure and convenience is more important then the life of a chicken (I mostly eat chicken).

The lengths that people will go to instead of admitting that they are wrong is just mind blowing.

@WatchDoggyDog

2 жыл бұрын

they have an opportunity to be a hero for the side which is much easier to be on and argue for. they are all saying all these things, but really they just would HATE for you to get away with being right and making all the wrongs feel bad. pathetic.

@blackmarlin3166

2 жыл бұрын

The problem with that is there wouldn't be a debate and this video wouldn't exist in the first place if he took those words out of your mouth

@lynns7262

Жыл бұрын

I think that after watching Ed win each argument with these people, is that the bottom line is they put their love of the taste of the animal over the love, compassion and empathy for the animals. I love when I hear someone say, I’m an animal lover… and then of course I have to ask if they’re vegan. 🤷‍♀️

@kitt3521

Жыл бұрын

I don't think this guy believes he's wrong at all, unlike most others I've seen debate Ed. But he was respectful and listened, and I could definitely see this discussion changing him.

@user-gu9yq5sj7c

Жыл бұрын

@@blackmarlin3166 Your comment didn't make sense. Many vegans want to convince people, not drama like you seem to be wanting. There's positive vegan videos too, like from Plant Based News. Discussions like this video helps vegans to be able to answer people.

"That was a very unique argument" "Thanks" Yeah I don't think that was a compliment man 😂

I'm sorry, this guy is a walking stereotype that shows what's wrong with this world. Alpha male, blood lust, strong have dominance and will survive. That works in the ancient savannas, but not in the world today. Nice job Ed.

@Frodoswaggns

2 жыл бұрын

The guy looks like a WoW player who drank too many mountain-dews, the delusion is crazy.

@FreeRadicalX

2 жыл бұрын

I'd wager that doesn't even work on an actual African savanna, only in the fantastical African savanna we like to imagine.

@andrewdegeorge9649

2 жыл бұрын

You know what works today? "Community." Empathy and compassion.

@MarlaSingersCancer

2 жыл бұрын

@@Frodoswaggns Right? Dude's skin doesn't indicate he's having the best of health.

@GlossRabban

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarlaSingersCancer For a preadetor full of blood lust, he looks like someone who is not outside in the sun enough🤔

Once Ed starts hovering his hand over the table, you know the other person is about to get owned.

@frankmedrisch7451

2 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 😂

@HardToBeAPoopGod

2 жыл бұрын

he calls upon the demons of G̷̡̧̛̱̬̠͓̘̣̱̼̣̻̪͇̖͍̻̮͙̫͖͆̈́͛̈̍͐́̅̂̌͐̿̀̉̂̀̎̇̔͒̑̉͐̍̆̒̕̚͜͝Į̴̛̙̤̺̫̮̹͉͖̈̑̉͆̾̈́̌̀̓̊̀͐̿̀̓̓̏̏͋͑͛̊̈̉̕͘͝͝ͅĻ̵̡̨̧̜̯̣̻͙̥̗̱̼͚̺͍̮͕̙͔̪͇͖̓́̉̈̓̀̉̔̃̒͑̀͋̚̚͘͘̕͜͠͝͝͝G̷̮̮̘̝͖͔̝̥̟̭͖͚̑̾̓̍̈́̍̾͘̚Ä̷̡̨̛͓̭̪̫̹̱͚̤̫̼̗͕̫͉̳͔͓̜͕̫͚͈̟̯̮̤͉͇̜͎̬̝̜̲̺̥͖̝͖̈́̏̆̒͒̓̿̀̅̊̓́͌͗̈͐̆̑̑̃̂͊͒̆̌̔̃́͐̀́̈́̿̋̔̀̀̕̚̕͝͠͝ͅM̷̢̦̩̹̣͓̪̳̳̺̞͕̩̟̗̫̈̌͛̌̋̄͛̆̾̓͗Ḛ̷̡̨̧̛̲͇͖̦̰̭̯͕̰̼̺̰̟̣̌̿̓̏̃̀̀̓̓̌̂͋͆̐͘̚̕̕͜͜͠͝ͅŞ̷̢̱̖͓͙̜̟̭͇̥̲̭̭̟̘͚͎̫̜̲̻͚̞̲̉͂̃͐̀̈̑̽̐̌̈́̌͐̕͜͠͝ͅͅH̵͖̗̺̥̫͖͇̞̯̱̭͈̮̪̼̖͉͎͖̟̮̬̤̯̭̹̞̮͌̃͂̅̌̽̿̾̿̋̋̐͗̽͋̀͋̈́̓̔̀͋̇̚͘͘͘̕͜͝ͅ to form his arguments

@grinsekatze9036

2 жыл бұрын

OMG genius XDDDD

@likelyivy1730

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao yes

@speedracer9132

2 жыл бұрын

Are we in high school? Should we all shout, “oooooooooooooo!” in unison after Ed makes his point? It’s depressing to see so many vegans be so immature with this is one of the top comments

Non vegan - “we’re superior to other animals” also non vegan - compares himself to bears and lions 🤔

@AndrewHorezga

2 жыл бұрын

...not in essence only in behavior...

@AndrewHorezga

Жыл бұрын

@Tigertyp um how?

@SteelPanda220

Жыл бұрын

It’s a true mind f*ck.

@danielnewkirk9129

Жыл бұрын

@@AndrewHorezga because they act nothing like a bear or a lion? do they eat their food raw? do they tear it apart live with their hands? they live in a climate controlled house and take baths. cucked hunters kill animals that have no possibility of causing them harm and feel "alpha" about it, and even more cucked meat-eaters buy it from a grocery store and pretend they're some lion for picking up food from the market lmao

I just love how Ed is always summarising what the other person said to show them the illogical and sometimes totally insane arguments they come up with

@lynns7262

Жыл бұрын

And how many people went before him? He had plenty of time to come up with a better argument.

@el29

Жыл бұрын

Actually if you have studied evolution and biology and chimpanzees, his tribe explaination isnt that faar off, but i understand for a ideological made up bias pretensious vegan on "high horses" that is self created without any evidence in evolution, it can be.

@giovannitassitani2

Жыл бұрын

@@el29 chimpanzees are more herbivores than otherwise

This is the type of guy you DON'T trust to walk you home after a night out.

@benedekanna924

2 жыл бұрын

He probably doesnt go out unless he has to pick up some chicken wings in kfc to satisfy his blood lust and become a good citizen

@PauIdenino

2 жыл бұрын

What, you don't like *bloodlust* ?

@torturedsouldepartment

2 жыл бұрын

I get that vibe 😳🤯

@leah425

2 жыл бұрын

Yet another reason why I can’t date non vegans! Can’t trust that their bloodlust won’t overpower them at any moment.

@7drunkenmermaids431

Жыл бұрын

Glad you recognized that, because it's a valid observation. It's horrible sad, but more women should think like that and stay far away from men who feel this way.

ed holding back laughter is killing me lmao

@PS-ol4js

2 жыл бұрын

It is satisfying to watch him laugh when he is able to keep it together through all other ridiculous arguments.. this guy took it far enough to crack Ed up 😅

@rozalynanderson8387

2 жыл бұрын

Im almost in tears. So funny.

@pandabear7216

2 жыл бұрын

king trying to stay respectful in the midst of a literal stand up lmao

“What would happen to our SPECIES if we stopped eating animals,”Ed asks. Vladimir goes on to emphasize how America (NATION) would be weaker against other nations. Now, isn’t that telling….

@bonchidude

2 жыл бұрын

Besides diabetes, constipation, heart disease yes America is stronger because of these. Those carnists are beyond stupid.

@doesntmatter397

2 жыл бұрын

Great observation

@panes840

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent observation

@meganfrey1663

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too. Shows how self absorbed Americans are; they think they are the only humans that exist.

@jamesjohnson2394

2 жыл бұрын

Propaganda works it seems

Ed never fails to blow me away with his articulate, composed, passionate, and effective communication skills. He is a gift to this planet and all the beings who inhabit it.

@el29

Жыл бұрын

All ?. Nah not all.... most stupid thing ive heard.

@saszablaze1

Жыл бұрын

sure but have you ever seen him full of joy or showing any real emotional range in his videos either?"?" nah, I think he eats too much soy and grains, and processed food. may even be on pharmaceuticals

@Ranger1812

Жыл бұрын

He's a fucking saint.

@user-gu9yq5sj7c

Жыл бұрын

@@saszablaze1 So some people vilify vegans for raging and getting physical too much on others, but now you vilify Ed for being calm and virtuous? When people keep moving the goalposts and riding both sides of the fence like this it makes your side look dirty, illogical, and close-minded. Meat eaters have different personalities too, like calm and rage. So would you say the same about them? Or do you have double standards?

@saszablaze1

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c villify? lol wtf are you on? simple, people are attracted to emulate people who are loose and full of joy, not uptight and serious all the time. if he was my only vegan i bumped into, i wouldn]t wanna become vegan after listening to him alone.

I can't believe he paused and said cutting a broccoli was the same as cutting the throat of a pig 😳 😐 😕

@ElliottPiano

2 жыл бұрын

People will say anything to "win an argument" what counts is that Ed makes them think and plants a seed it may bloom soon or later 😊

@grilla4464

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElliottPiano I strongly admire the patience, maturity, and courage, to do such. It's something to aspire to and work on.

@tigerlilly3727

2 жыл бұрын

but he doesnt hold that belief. hence the welfarism

@tashaax1993xanimalloverx

2 жыл бұрын

@@tigerlilly3727 exactly its obvious he says it to feel better himself but still to even say the words ....I think is bizarre

@tashaax1993xanimalloverx

2 жыл бұрын

@@tigerlilly3727 what do u mean ? What I'm saying is he clearly cannot think cutting a broccoli up is the same as stabbing a pig..like I can pretty much guarantee he couldn't kill an animal but chops up vegetables fine without a care in the world. This is a uni meant to be educated people so I assume even more so he doesn't really believe that he is indenial and trying to make himself feel better about eating meat to justify it to himself...even the most sadistic serial killer wouldn't hold that belief . Its common sense really....

This guy has made my brain hurt very quickly. Ed you have so much patience. Hat's off to you.

@alef3224

2 жыл бұрын

I love how we live in a democracy and have freedom of speech so that such open conversations are possible 💜

@anti-ethniccleansing465

2 жыл бұрын

He sounds like he’s talking about a video game. For instance, if you need a power boost in your game, you take a certain consumable in the game in order to get temporary power. This is definitely the most insane argument I’ve ever witnessed. I can understand why he is the type that watches anime lol.

@anti-ethniccleansing465

2 жыл бұрын

Lol… Near the end of it, you could actually HEAR his brain coming to a halt and stuttering. Lmfao.

@alef3224

2 жыл бұрын

@@anti-ethniccleansing465 I wonder where he’s learned all of this/all those wild believes. In the end i believe we all just want to love and be loved. He’s been conditioned clearly by a certain church, family, social system. He seems very smart and calm, but from my perspective not in touch with his body and heart and the natural world. Very much trapped in distorted believes and that’s what creates suffering. It’s amazing how we can have open and respectful conversations in our free societies.

@niranjansinghdangi8397

2 жыл бұрын

I'm eating chicken breast right now

Ed knows that he doesn't need to argue he just needs to sit back and let people talk and contradict themselves. This guy was a prime example.

@mayhu3282

9 ай бұрын

I think it's a technique the police use too. Just let them speak and they'll end totally tangled up in their own contradictory or absurd statements

@louisav11

Ай бұрын

i use this technique often... sit back and listen and let the other person come to the conclusion on their own by realizing how stupid they sound the longer they talk lol

Ed’s face when he realizes the person is too far gone to rationalize with is priceless lol

@user-gu9yq5sj7c

Жыл бұрын

I think Ed said he's hopeful people will change. He's a pretty positive person. I didn't see Ed thinking Vladimir was hopeless. If you're hopeless or a quitter then don't complain why people don't better themselves.

@terrellb2165

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c well I disagree, User guy. Ed quits all the time when he know that person cant be reasoned with. Some biases are just too strong. Thats what great debaters do. Hes not an angel. Hes an advocate.

@Charlie-eq3dj

10 ай бұрын

Time stamp for exact moment that realization happens?

Word salad is the closest this guy will ever get to being vegan

@PercivalBlakeney

2 жыл бұрын

@cshustaann ... and this table is probably the closest he'll ever get to a military recruiting station. (F×××ing "bloodlust" indeed... fat lot of good that did the citizens of Bucha).

@jxeh1442

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely a Jordan Peterson fan. (As am I, but this guy is a pseudo-intellectual parrot, and that is being very generous).

@PercivalBlakeney

2 жыл бұрын

@@jxeh1442 Disenfranchised as I am with Professor Peterson (f×××ing "carnivore diet" indeed) he's still a smarter guy than I am. $250k per annum from his KZread channel alone... I'm in the wrong line of business. Trouble is Peterson focuses on just "being right" rather than engaging in actual discourse... and uses all sorts of skulduggery (word games, shifting the argument) in order to achieve that aim. 😉

@PercivalBlakeney

2 жыл бұрын

@Black cat Thanks for the reply. Q. Howdya know that Jordan Peterson ISN'T an atheist? A. With his kind of self assurance, he clearly believes in some form of God. (Old, old, old, old, joke, originally about Gov. Huey Long.) 😁

@tigerlilly3727

2 жыл бұрын

you won the internet with that one XD

You heard it here first, you need meat in order to become a monster so you can be competitive in life 🤡

@franknstein5376

2 жыл бұрын

Besides, by his same argument, if we are naturally predators that lust for blood wouldn't limiting consumption lead us to be *more* aggressive and competitive, because "assuaging the need" would result in satisfying the urge. Like, I practice martial arts and if I am nervous or feeling angry going to a boxing class actually calms me down... by his logic I should be ready to murder someone by the end of it

@blakeengelby4015

2 жыл бұрын

Most sane carnist 💀

@FruityHachi

2 жыл бұрын

that guy needs to read about what gladiators ate, i'm curious what excuse he'd come up with if he found out that gladiators didn't eat steaks but barley and other plants

I wish him all the best in his endeavours as he takes on the traits of a chicken from the KFC he just ate, to be a good husband and soldier.

@cloudysensation8406

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO

The belief that “we need bloodlust” is part of what’s wrong with the world Edit: this guy’s bloodlust argument is amazing…he’s basically saying eat (innocent) animals to power-up to defeat your enemies (fellow humans). Jeeeezus

@el29

Жыл бұрын

Really ? Did you say that when you were evolved from evolution to survive and that you came from ?. Its obvious you dont understand millions of years of evolution and history and biology and even how chimpanzees and other apes act today. JEEEEEEZUS.

Jesus man I can never do what ed does I'd burst out laughing ENGINEERING IS COMPETITIVE I MUST LUST FOR THE BLOOD OF MY FELLOW ENGINEER

@Ermude10

2 жыл бұрын

I actually laughed out loudly at home hearing that

@laurab3876

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ermude10 lol me too. I seldom laugh aloud when I am by myself. Crazy argument, but Ed is a genius. So happy animals have such a public defender

@davidgeraghty9765

2 жыл бұрын

"I'M CHOOSING TO BECOME A MONSTER" *bites into taco*

@addison4785

2 жыл бұрын

😭MY BLOODLUST FROM THE FLESH OF DEAD ANIMALS MAKES ME AN EXPERT AT MY CRAFT/j

@valkyriereads

2 жыл бұрын

if there are any murders on campus...

"I need to eat meat because I need bloodlust....to work with equations at my desk".....

Love these videos! I'm muslim and the religious argument of 'humans having dominion' was mis-used. When you have dominion, you are a care-taker, you have stewardship and that is all about acting with responsibility, care and consideration rather than irresponsibly with arrogance or tyranny. The earth is a place for all the creatures of God, and we should respect the sanctity of life and be humble.

@FadedPhoenixYT

9 ай бұрын

​@@NermineNaThat point leads me to believe that if the "divine" texts truly were divine, they would certainly not be as open to misinterpretation as they are. A big issue is that people LOVE to isolate a verse, then attribute their own arbitrary meaning to it. Isolating a passage like that in ANY other story would make you look illiterate, like you don't understand context, yet we find ourselves with most people giving their own arbitrary meanings to scripture in this way.

As a vegan I have already harnessed plenty of rage learning about animal agriculture/all the other ways we use animals. Also speaking out, rescuing and protecting these animals has transformed my weak minded, former animal eating self into a much more powerful, effective human being.

He opened with that humans were at the top because of intelligence and ended with saying we need bloodlust to stay on top.

@sithius99

2 жыл бұрын

He's absolutely right. I have a steak and my power levels go through the roof. I tear my clothes off, then start hulk smashing with all that energy and aura surging through me. I also go out and find other meat to devour to increase my bloodlust levels.

@whispergardensubs

2 жыл бұрын

@@sithius99 whatttt I thought I was the only one

@LN-fi1nf

2 жыл бұрын

@@sithius99 The blood lust is supposed to be harnessed. Also, it's suppose to make you a good husband, so I hope that you're male.

@drsalka

2 жыл бұрын

@@LN-fi1nf rofl xD

@PS-ol4js

2 жыл бұрын

@@sithius99 that's spot on, nice catch!

Using his beliefs, we could end war if men were not allowed to eat meat.

@matanieandrei6749

2 жыл бұрын

Actually this might work, because by eatings animal products humans develop dementia, and if everyone stop eating animal products the dementia will stop also!

@firstwavenegativity6379

2 жыл бұрын

@@matanieandrei6749 I don't think most wars are started by people with dementia

@matanieandrei6749

2 жыл бұрын

@@firstwavenegativity6379 could you give an example!?

Bloody hell. Nothing worse than someone with a strong opinion on something they've clearly never thought about for more than 5 seconds.

@cloudysensation8406

2 жыл бұрын

lmao very true

Oh man the level of patience Ed has is unbelievable 😂

@Getnodrama

Жыл бұрын

Why ? Noone is superior to noone, being plant based foesnt necesarilly mans you are a morally superior human than someone else. L'abbee pierre gave shelter and food to millions of starving homeless people he has displayed more compassion and "morality" than an average dude who just stops eating blood while hating people who live differently. Nothing is black and white. I ve crossed countless vegan who were primaraly misanthropists and have the seed of past fascist in them while convincing themselves they are on the "pure race" side. The dude has been as patient and respectful as Ed. I actually feel lit of live and compassion for them both. Equally. Like i have for animals. Many vegan hide thenselves behind a "morally" better practice to put themselves above their neighbour, which is pathetic and detrimental to everyone including our animal brothers. Ps. So you can label me and kniw what level of compassuon to give me, im plant based eater 😂

Vlad is competing at the top of the list among those who have the biggest list of bad excuses that I've ever come across

@myfoodisgrownnotborncompas362

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, his name is Russian and he is against communists.

@sithius99

2 жыл бұрын

this guy is a goldmine for reddit vegancirclejerkers.

@dragonofhatefulretribution9041

2 жыл бұрын

Well you’re asserting he’s making excuses despite the fact you’re vegan for the animals and not for health or volition in regards to overcoming obstacles within the human experience or for optimal health as a human animal.

@Fizzbuzzbizzfuzz2

2 жыл бұрын

@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 what the fuck did you just write? It's like you made a sentence with the "suggested text" above your keyboard

@Fizzbuzzbizzfuzz2

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah he's just working backwards from "I like meat, we have eaten meat forever so we should keep eating meat" and not really considering reason. You can embrace that male aggression with all sorts of combat sports & outdoor activities that actually test you; I don't see how killing bambi is manly at all.

We did it, we found an argument more ridiculous than the "plants feel pain tho".

@Corvid_Moon

2 жыл бұрын

"We need bloodlust to be productive" xD

@FixdalOK

2 жыл бұрын

@@Corvid_Moon Bloodlust tho

@ultralightcam6963

2 жыл бұрын

@@FixdalOK “bloodlust tho👮🏼‍♂️👷🏽‍♂️👨🏾‍🍳🧑🏽‍💻🧑🏼‍💼👩🏼‍🚀👨🏽‍✈️”

@AndrewHorezga

2 жыл бұрын

...they do feel pain...they are a direct biomagnetic connection to the life force that humans need a nervous system to pick up....plants experience emotions and pain...how do you not know that

@ultralightcam6963

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndrewHorezga why do they feel pain? So they can get up and run?

This guy is confusing bloodlust with cholesterol, obesity, cancer, and heart disease.

I turned vegan, when I moved out of my parents home and Ed's videos really helped me to keep going! Amazing work!

Some people will say terrifying things to try and justify their choices

@tigerlilly3727

2 жыл бұрын

the good thing is, i dont think he genuinely believes any of the cray things he said. could be wrong though! you never really know whats really in someone's mind.

If somebody ever makes an iceberg of "reasons why I'm not vegan", I think this argument is a good candidate for the deeper levels.

@flexo3333

2 жыл бұрын

True. The nonsense that's too stupid to even leave the subconscious normally...

I love how as he was describing his own stance, he kept laughing at himself. Like he was realizing how dumb his ideas were as he was saying them out loud. Gotta give him props for sticking with it.

Love Ed's face whenever he says "oh, don't worry about me" it's a glimse into him laughing his ass off on the inside at these rediculous arguments xD

One of the most incoherent, irrational and self-contradictory defence of animal exploitation I have ever heard. Wonder if I too, ever, sounded this incoherent. Probably, sadly, but then I grew rationally and morally. And yeah, respect has to do with not infringing on someones interests without very good reason to do so (self-preservation, being one). Respect does NOT mean: -to be aware of harming others, feel bad about it, but do it anyway. -to feel grateful while harming someone. - to tolerate someones violent ideology, and refuse to challange it. An ideology is not a person with interests.

@nirvicos

2 жыл бұрын

haha well said!

@TXRhody

2 жыл бұрын

Respect does not mean turning someone into poo and flushing them down the toilet.

@GarudaLegends

2 жыл бұрын

nothing rational about joining the vegan cult(veganism is for brainwashed sheep AKA cult), and nothing morally wrong for eating food(AKA Beef&Brocolli)

@tigerlilly3727

2 жыл бұрын

we all have a past...

"So you think if America went vegan we'd become to weak to fend off a communist invasion?" "In a sense yes" How do u not just crack up man, you are so composed in all situations its beyond professional

@GlossRabban

2 жыл бұрын

And he probably has zero idea what a communist or communism is.

@recycledcontent2959

2 жыл бұрын

@@GlossRabban communism is when no red meat, obviously. It’s funny how these jokers try and justify their beliefs lol.

@wobblybobengland

2 жыл бұрын

Never mind the communists, what about the zombies?

@ac.runnnn

2 жыл бұрын

@@recycledcontent2959 if communism = no unnecessary brutalizing and killing of innocent animals then greetings comrades

@MK_ULTRA420

2 жыл бұрын

@@recycledcontent2959 Actually yes, now eat your bread.

Incredible how someone wanting to be an engineer, a logic-based profession, can have such illogical opinions like being religious and believing the whole alpha-male bullshit. When he talked about "creating a monster and controlling him" I just cringed and laughed at the same time.

@2tehnik

2 жыл бұрын

> illogical opinions like religion “Yuo want to be an engineer, and yet.. you believe in God? Curious..”

@2tehnik

2 жыл бұрын

@cabalo doido I never used 4chan myself actually. I guess I only got "assimilated" into some of its "culture."

@Avelcaine

2 жыл бұрын

@@2tehnik Many respected figures in various STEM fields (perhaps most notably, a good number of physicists) believe in a creator god. Significantly fewer have anything good to say about organized religion.

@Noctua07

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to humanity.... Seriously though. If you expect every person working in a logic based profession is a 100% logic driven person then you're in for a big surprise. That is simply not how humans work. I'm a pretty logical person myself and yet act illogical on many occasions. Human feelings, emotions and desires are inherently not always logical when compared to a logical conclusion.

@danielconway7190

Жыл бұрын

I can hear the Jordan Peterson in the way he talks

Ed: What do you need that bloodlust for? Vladimir: Engineering is competitive… Now I've heard everything 🤣

Your videos are inspiring, helping and teaching me to become a peaceful vegan advocate myself, many thanks for that.

@vinnyhorapeti2461

2 жыл бұрын

Vegan for the animals 💚

@EduardDumee

2 жыл бұрын

@@vinnyhorapeti2461 Amen!🌱

@marsh49

2 жыл бұрын

LoL you can donate on the comment sections? Didn't know that.

@oddvegan9797

2 жыл бұрын

👍

@JordanCalifornia27

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your donation!

This is more sad than it is funny. It reminds us just how easily manipulated people can be by the culture and narratives they're surrounded by. "“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire

@cryco472

2 жыл бұрын

AGREED. All I kept thinking is that the dude has been thoroughly brain washed before this

@frankmedrisch7451

2 жыл бұрын

Wow

@BattleClyde

2 жыл бұрын

Just like those that back vaccines even though it’s pure poison.

You asked him to debate a vegan and he delivered in spades. He went to every corner of his mind to find a way to justify his position. I love watching these debates it's like mental training for when I have to have these conversations. Bravo Ed for holding it together against ridiculousness! 👏👏👏

I don't know how Ed manages to have the patience for these people. It's incredible really.

@snailmailmagic1133

Жыл бұрын

Patience and straight face. I would have laughed the whole interview xD

I like how Vladimir sometimes realized that his arguments don't make sense, his more humane side came forth a few seconds at at time.

@jahverussell2642

2 жыл бұрын

And I love how it was because Ed has such patience and gave Vladmir the time and space to completely finish his arguments without interruption that allowed him to hear himself stating his own contradictions. Ed is truly a master of debate!

@darknightfawkes1028

2 жыл бұрын

He laughed at his own arguments too 😂

@LarsLighthouse

2 жыл бұрын

A true self-awarewolf.

@danielbarber9423

2 жыл бұрын

Yes his reasoning mind ,following his pastor, was his present core beliefs. He only needs to use his powerful imagination to see how animals and man can be peaceful. Imagination beyond fear!

@maxi1117

2 жыл бұрын

dude if this is like he does he's engineering ... then good luck, i hope he will just work on a toaster in his future, but he still might manage to kill someone just wanting to have a slice for breakfast...

mind-blowing, funny but also a bit scary how some (or many) people in America and the whole world can be so blatantly ignorant 🤯

@TheWorldTeacher

2 жыл бұрын

Mr. Winters’ understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶 The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩 Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”. Mr. E. Winters, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐 kzread.info/dash/bejne/haBpqdKxfLvUpaw.html Go to the 8:15 mark.

@VeganSemihCyprus33

2 жыл бұрын

Engineering also turns you into a brainwashed robot for corporations to use to destroy nature and wild animals, so maybe that can be the connection 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🙌

@silviofta

2 жыл бұрын

these are the people in engineering courses lmao

@VeganV5912

2 жыл бұрын

@@silviofta .. Like CharIes Man🖕son. Proxy killing... 👈🤥🍖🔴.... 🙄. Over a burger. 5 minute burger !! Animals life gone for good !! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Twice a Coooooooo-ward !!!! Hypoooocrite. Big time. I was a hypocrite. But now I’m vegan. Don’t hurt animals. Simple really. ✅🤷🏼‍♂️. KZread delicious vegan food. Time to change.... ✅

@GregVidua

2 жыл бұрын

@@silviofta engineering has the most ignorants IMO. Sincerely, an engineer 😅

"What do you need that bloodlust for?" "Engineering's competitive" Lmao what the fuuuuuuccckkkk 😂

This was the most epic argument, I burst out laughing even Ed wasn't prepared for this haha

@snailmailmagic1133

Жыл бұрын

IKR. i spit my popcorn. Ed was really controlling his laugh. When vlad kept saying "I am sorry.. because there are memes..".. Ed must be thinking - "You would think I would get hurt, but you really dont know how ridiculous you sound right now. I am barely able to keep straight face " xD

14:33 "We have lost respect for animals, that's why there's so many vegans nowadays." This dude's ability to believe in his own lies is insane lol

@tigerlilly3727

2 жыл бұрын

see also 'doublespeak' XD

Someone's trying really hard to justify eating meat. Sounds like a lot of his arguments are coming up on the fly and he's feeling insecure about his choices.

@hadyncurran2947

2 жыл бұрын

your right. he took the debate in such weird directions to rationalize eating meat when he knows hes wrong. what a joker

How is Ed this good in debates? Is a he a lawyer or something? He is very articulate and puts things in layman's terms and extremely confident in himself. His wife will be lucky to have him as a husband. He doesn't try to "win" the debate but he tries to educate people and also learn from others.

@RapidBlindfolds

2 жыл бұрын

yes its incredibly effective, i dont think he even did a philosophy degree just a filmmaking one

I’m getting weird incel vibes from this guy. The last statement from Ed was class. He truely highlights the insanity of this.

This guy makes loopholes for himself like no other and can’t accept that he is wrong. I think you sowed some kind of seed of doubt, well done Ed! For his last “point”, if anything the meat industry is allowing chinas economy to become stronger because so many animal products come from China.

@tazztone

2 жыл бұрын

exactly. first he says there is a gap between animal and human suffering as big as between plant and animal suffering. next question he says there is no difference between cutting a broccoli vs a pig. hipocrisy.

@sadface6635

2 жыл бұрын

@@tazztone I just don’t understand how someone would rather stretch their beliefs around 10 different arguments against them instead of just admit they are wrong and give it a try. When I was a Christian, I had to say “evolution and god can exist”, “other inhabitable planets and god can exist”, “social anthropology and god can exist”. But at some point it was so cumbersome to have to keep stretching my beliefs around something that is an unneeded hypothesis in the first place. It’s the same with veganism. The vegan argument is easily defensible where as the meat argument is easily dismantled. They can’t just keep making excuses can they?

@tazztone

2 жыл бұрын

@@sadface6635 i think this is purely a character flaw. not related to any topics discussed

@sadface6635

2 жыл бұрын

@@tazztone very true!

"engineering is competitive" IM DEAD. he wants to have bloodlust and the capability to kill beings so he can... study well in college....?

@cynicalidealist11

2 жыл бұрын

Still trying to make sense of that one

@Sturzfaktor2

2 жыл бұрын

@@cynicalidealist11 That's the problem when you find yourself in a debate in which you have to come up with a coherent world view on the spot without having put too much thought into it beforehand. 🤷‍♂️

@benjammin105123

2 жыл бұрын

Also an engineer here. I wish I was plant based back in college. I would have been better for it after seeing what the change has done for me.

@TXRhody

2 жыл бұрын

Can you get bloodlust from driving in your air-conditioned car to buy slabs of meat on polystyrene trays wrapped in cellophane at Whole Foods?

@tigerlilly3727

2 жыл бұрын

" im having an old friend for dinner" hannibal bro XD

Ed, how do you continue to show so much emotional restraint and remain composed in debates such as this? I had a brief stint of activism (anonymous for the voiceless) and found it to be incredibly draining as I was constantly met with the same outdated reasons for meat consumption. I stepped away from it as it was too much. More power to you dude, because what you and your team are doing is truly worthy, meaningful and deserves praising. Thank you.

It kills me when people argue different points about vegans not being able to be strong enough in our lifestyle. There are so many vegans out there that a bodybuilders and are so incredibly fit and strong in both mental and physical

Being Vegan is much more easier than having to make all of these mental gymnastics leaps and bounds stemming from Cognitive Dissonance.

@Chill_Jill

2 жыл бұрын

@@pacmanmcgavin7034 Each species has their own species specific diet based on physiology and anatomy. Humans are primates. Human are natural frugivores. We originated from the tropical environments where whole, ripe, raw tropical fruits are our #1 ideal food source. Our cells are fueled by glucose. We have to eat Vitamin C, our bodies don't make Vitamin C like other species do. 4 "food" groups that stimulate the same area of the brain as drugs do: Meat, dairy, sugar, chocolate meaning these groups are highly addictive. As hard as we may want to, we're never going to changed our species, our anatomy or our ideal food souce: whole, ripe, fresh hydrating fruits eaten in an abundance.

@Chill_Jill

2 жыл бұрын

@@pacmanmcgavin7034 Thank you for supporting a Vegan channel. 😘

@OnePieceFan2100

2 жыл бұрын

It is always impressive what people can come up with.

@Chill_Jill

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnePieceFan2100 Yes, it is

Very strong fascist vibes from this guy. His whole argument feels like peak tribalism.

@hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247

2 жыл бұрын

tribalism and fascism are two different things

@xenoblad

2 жыл бұрын

@@hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247 I’ll grant that engaging in tribalism isn’t always fascist, but fascism seems to necessarily be tribalist.

@EVL624

2 жыл бұрын

The guy is definately a fascist.

@tatjanajankovic9020

Жыл бұрын

My feelings exactly. I agree with you. This horrible guy gives me the chills. He says: "I don't have a problem when animal is tortured". He's obnoxious.

I love that he mentioned the promised neverland anime/manga. watching it as a vegan was refreshing just because of the non vegans reacting to it. It is a great way to see what 'ethical farming' might look like and how the 'farmed' creatures; in this case humans; still feel scared and still end up dying and once they figure out what is happening the fear is intensified because there is deception. obviously, humans have more intelligence but animals can still feel these basic emotions. And eventually they try to escape . it would be great to see Ed's reaction to it actually. an anime review with Ed sounds great.

I love how respectful you always are in these debates. Great video!

“Dominion creates a sense of responsibility to nurture” oof that was a GOOD line, Ed. Love your way of thinking brother!

@el29

Жыл бұрын

Its a false narrative of Ed..... Dominion - CAN - create a sense of responsibility to nurture.... It Doesnt have to...... I Can dominate a pedophile or a wolf who tried to kill my child - That does not create a responsability to nurture... So Ed and youre logic is totaly flawed. Sad.

My brain exploded listening to this young man. God bless you Ed for doing what you do. I've been vegan for over 25 years and no longer have the patience to engage with folks like him, though I do understand the absolute need to engage. You are a blessing and your calm and patient demeanor is admirable. Thank you!

@GarudaLegends

2 жыл бұрын

God promotes meat. say "Lucifer bless you" instead. Ed is anti-Christ

@kfitz192

2 жыл бұрын

That's so interesting. After 25 years I feel the same way.

@leah425

2 жыл бұрын

I am only 3 years deep and had to stop outreach lol I have 0 patience for people like this.

@GarudaLegends

2 жыл бұрын

@@leah425 it is your vegan mental illness kicking in

Wow in this dialogue I’m quite impressed by the level you guys manage to have together. It is indeed quite wonderful to see that you can be both quiet and listening to each other, this young gentleman is obviously very capable on many levels to reflect and question and I think this is already remarkable. I so appreciate your capacity To adopt and meet the other where they are and pick the thread there, I think it is also very remarkable of you and I absolutely love what you’re doing and your courage❤

There's no way this guy started this conversation thinking he was going to be arguing that Americans need measured blood-lust. He panic stumbled onto that when Ed calmly destroyed all his earlier points.

I love how vegan discussions have the rare ability to give a valuable window into another person's mind. you can't hide who you are or how your mind works in the face of veganism.

@ReverendDr.Thomas

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Mr. Winters’ understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶 The fact that he repeatedly asserts that "humans are animals" shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩 Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture! kzread.info/dash/bejne/haBpqdKxfLvUpaw.html (Go to the 8:15 mark).

@veganfortheanimals6994

2 жыл бұрын

without a doubt; not even debatable; I've done a lot of activism and I've experienced this; and this revealing bit extends to friends and family of course

@jonas3590

2 жыл бұрын

@@veganfortheanimals6994 I have to give it to him tho, it has been a long time since I heard an argument against veganism that I haven't heard 1000x times. This was totally new to me. Ed needs to redo his TEDx talk; Every argument against veganism (bloodlust edition, vegans can't defend themselves from possible invasions from other animal eating countries).

@RaphaelBraun

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if I agree. It is a little harsh to judge someone's character based on a live debate. Most vegans, me included, grew up non-vegan. If confronted by those arguments it is - as we know - basically impossible to produce any valid argument against veganism. He didn't know that yet. So basically what you expect from him is to immediately, on the spot admit to a stranger that the way he lived his life - how he was taught to think since childhood - is deeply immoral. I am not at all surprised that he responded the way he did. However I'd caution you to conclude from this reaction in this unique stress situation about his personality. I don't think he walked away from this conversation thinking "man I did great. I am so proud of my arguments". Maybe this uneasy feeling of cognitive dissonance will cause him to think more about how he should have responded to Ed. And maybe this is the start of the process that you probably went through already? This stuff takes time - always. It is one thing to point out when someone is behaving immorally - I am all for that - but it feels somewhat cocky to pretend you could judge how someone's mind works based on how they try to come up with an argument that they still think exists. You probably (unconsciously) spent days, weeks, months or maybe even years to realize that this argument does not exist.

@MrJavacash

2 жыл бұрын

political correctness is causing it. I'm a meat eater and proudly say I support animal abuse to continue eating meat, I've got NOTHING to hide. It's vegans who are the problem!

I so admire your poise and patience.

@MrJavacash

2 жыл бұрын

patience? He needs to be more patience because vegan arguments are full of nonsense!

@maxv9464

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJavacash Such as?

@bookmilla8616

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJavacash What is it that is nonsense then?

It's insane how many ridiculous reasons the human brain can come up with to support what they've always done instead of admitting they're wrong. Lack of humility really seems to be the biggest obstacle here

This was extremely hard to stomach. Incredible that this guy had the audacity to talk about avoiding sin, and yet is refusing to let go of his pride.

I had to cringe a lot at the end, I feel kinda sad for him somehow. The lack of self-awareness I suppose. Anyway hats off to Ed as always, I'm ever amazed by how quickly he knows how to respond with the right argument or question to dismantle the other person's argument

@aubs965

2 жыл бұрын

I always admire Ed for that. I feel I'd either get a little to emotional or I'd just not be able to take people like this guy seriously but Ed gets them to think about their own argument very well. Even if they're in extreme denial. I agree with you though, I do feel bad for this guy. Anyone who says the words he does is lost and it's unfortunate

@MrJavacash

2 жыл бұрын

Cringe? The average person only eats several cows their lifetime. You wouldn't tell meat eaters that right? Because it's quite small. Would render veganism useless. Come on! Make better arguments please instead of showing your emotions and letting them control yoU!!!

@aubs965

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJavacash first of all your claims are wildly untrue. Secondly, youre one to talk about letting your emotions control you. I've seen you on earthling eds, joey carbstrongs and many other vegans KZread videos for literally YEARS defending yourself against no one and fighting with the air kind of like some of those homeless guys you see outside gas stations.

There’s literally no excuse not to be vegan lol

@emajose693

2 жыл бұрын

I don't need to make excuses. I just don't want to be vegan

@emajose693

2 жыл бұрын

@Anon Anon This is natural, we always use animals for various things.

@alakazamhippity3192

2 жыл бұрын

@Anon Anon well fundamentally it's impossible to argue the point because vegans believe animals are equal beings while meat eaters do not.

@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy

2 жыл бұрын

Communist invasion tho

@emajose693

2 жыл бұрын

@@alakazamhippity3192 Sim ( Yes).

In my opinion it took me ten years to really looking foward my health having that care after that i realized what i was doing to my body then i looked for documentaries to know what i was putting in mybody and i realized what massacre i was supporting . Vegan for life . Very greatful for ed winters

Whenever I feel dumb or doubt myself when facing a problem, I can always resort listening to meat eaters' arguments to regain my confidence.

Not even 1 minute in & id be losing my mind along with all my brain cells trying to make sense of his position. I really don’t know how you do it Ed lol.

@CreamPieSundays

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not even kidding I stopped the video at the same time Told my wife " wow, I can't believe the shit I just heard" then proceeded to show her the video

@MrJavacash

2 жыл бұрын

did you know the average person only eats 5 cows their lifetime? I bet you wouldn't tell that to people since they'd figure that's too low and would avoid veganism. Most people don't know this and you probably didn't. veganism is utterly useless and a sign of selfishness!!!

@fbarnea

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninetysomethingmillion4501 "advocates and activists are fine as long as they don't advocate against killing animals". Do you realise that almost all the progress the human species ever made was due to activists? They are literally some of the most important people on earth, right up there with scientists. There's a reason everyone knows who Martin Luther king was, everyone knows the name Gandhi, or the name Rosa Parks. While you continue to be an insignificant consumer with a net negative impact on society, the human genome and our planet.

@blueberrydenim4807

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninetysomethingmillion4501 He works for his money & earns it. Then puts that money to good use by supporting himself more ethically & using a lot of it to help others, influencing thousands upon thousands every day. What exactly are you doing with your life?

@Joey21363

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninetysomethingmillion4501 You're helping the algorithm get his video out there. You're also helping him make money just by watching his videos. Thank you for your support!

I really love this comedy sketch.

@mara3842

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, I say the same thing. I used to like watching pranks and stand-up comedy but who needs those if we have vegan-carnist debates, right?

@likelyivy1730

2 жыл бұрын

Lolllll

You can see behind the bravado and excuses this guy has a good heart and wants a hug.

Vladimir would be the best kind of vegan. He would be the man. Imagine how much more amazing his story would sound if instead of “boosting his bloodlust” by eating steak he were “harnessing the power of the earthquake” by eating melon. The man.

Just on his point with Lent and not eating meat during that time...if eating meat makes you angry/wrathful and being angry/wrathful is a sin, then eating meat makes you sin? So why not avoid it all the time to avoid being more sinful?

@robinpetersson3081

2 жыл бұрын

The entire synopsis and premise of the Bible is literally that man destroyed the vegan paradise called Eden and that God will one day reinstate it. It's not about Jesus or the other three thousand people mentioned in the Bible. How can Christians ENTIRELY miss the point of the Bible?

@TristanBanks

2 жыл бұрын

Because hwiyte American Christians have learned to love violence and believe its their right to attack anyone. It's part of their culture.

@FruityHachi

2 жыл бұрын

exactly, just don't eat meat at all then, but trying to find logical consistencies with religious people is a lost cause

What this guy said is quite scary. How can someone think that not harming animal makes you weak??? He should watch “The Game Changers” and realise that there are super strong MEN that are 100% vegan. And their muscles are big! Well done Ed for being so patient!!

@valkyriereads

2 жыл бұрын

It's also scary because he basically advertised for the right of a more intelligent alien species to eat us all

The Promised Neverland is probably one of the best animes to show why we need to introduce veganism as a standard in our societies.

@el29

Жыл бұрын

For kids.

Super conversation Ed, thank you for doing this. 🙂

“I come from a Christian background” is never followed by an intelligent statement.

@GarudaLegends

2 жыл бұрын

so you believe in the big bang?

@GarudaLegends

2 жыл бұрын

@Joel Nugteren so do you believe in the big bang theory?

@GarudaLegends

2 жыл бұрын

@Joel Nugteren so you dont believe in the big bang theory.

@GarudaLegends

2 жыл бұрын

@Joel Nugteren if it is true, do you believe in the big bang theory?

@obalisk990

2 жыл бұрын

@@GarudaLegends The remnant effects of the Big bang are still detectable today [provided you looked]. Refusing or neglecting to understand the big bang doesn't validate it's non-existence. Instead of questioning the validity of scientific study how about first defending the validity of the bible. Other than using "faith" as an argument.

This guy is the personification of "toxic masculinity." Confusing cynicism with realism and egocentrism with character.

@rozalynanderson8387

2 жыл бұрын

And at the end of the day probs would be a snivelling wreck if he had to kill a pig/confront a bear/go to war.

@MK_ULTRA420

2 жыл бұрын

@@rozalynanderson8387 To be fair so would the vast majority of vegans.

@derpfaddesweisen

2 жыл бұрын

@@MK_ULTRA420 But we don't claim that it is a good thing, so why shouldn't we be appaled?

@MK_ULTRA420

2 жыл бұрын

@@derpfaddesweisen Because you're a sniveling wreck.

@rozalynanderson8387

2 жыл бұрын

@@MK_ULTRA420 of course! But hes claiming meat gives him super powers lol

Ed trying not to burst out laughing when he says he needs blood lust to be an engineer

I love how he is even laughing at his own arguments. Like he doesn't take himself seriously... or he realizes how dumb he sounds.

I was a US Army soldier for several years and not a single ounce of animal flesh entered my body. I got several awards for being one of the most fit, most responsible, and most improved soldier my first one being in boot camp where I was recognized as the best soldier of they training class. Anyone that tells me that you need to be a meat eater to do the things that I did while in the military is just wrong because I did it without meat and many people I met while I was in also were vegan or at the very least vegetarian.

@Mark_Wheeler

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service... to your country AND the animals!

@salamaabid6923

2 жыл бұрын

He’s also not heard of Desmond Doss, a US soldier in WW2 who did his miraculous feats while on a Vegetarian diet

@hold_the_mike

2 жыл бұрын

@@salamaabid6923 Hacksaw Ridge, great film based on a great man. Absolutely correct.

@hold_the_mike

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mark_Wheeler I appreciate it, but I prefer to not be thanked for my service. I have done nothing compared to what many others have done and are doing. They deserve the thanks.

@jamesjohnson2394

2 жыл бұрын

Its cool you're a vegan but fighting for the US empire is disgusting. How many Iraqis did you rape and kill eh? there's not part of this Earth that hasn't been destroyed by America. Shame on you.

"I don't want to eat anything that had a mother." - Mr. Rogers

@demolitionist42

2 жыл бұрын

But plants have mothers and fathers

@remotefaith

2 жыл бұрын

Seahorse is back on the menu boys

its hilarious how people are such die-hard animal lovers until you say "vegan," and then they have to think for a bit before answering whether its ok to punch a dog.